Saturday, October 17, 2020

Imperio de Mentiras, #19, 10/17/20: Fifty Shades of Majo

 

Leo runs into El after finding out about the diary, etc. Ms. El gets the cold shoulder, as she should. Ruh Roh, Leo does not jump through his ass every time a Cantu eyelash flutters. The end of the world.

Good for Leo grow a pair, turn and walk away. Leo can't confide in El since she did not tell him about the diary. That is your first clue Leo.

Majo has disappeared!! Warden Vic has checked her cell and she is nowhere to be found. End of the world 2.0.

Vic tells Eww that the kiss shouldn't have happened. Oh wow, strong statement there, Eww must be terrified.

I was waiting for: “But But Sis, Dario kidnapped me.”
“Oh yeah, Kidnapped me too last night.”
Did not! Did too did not did too.

At Scario's trendy hideout he and Majo have some catching up to do. Scario is sad that she believes things that he didn't do. We are privy to some pretty sexy screaming.
Majo reminds him that he promised to change. Scario tells her to take out her anger, Oops, on him?

So Majo grabs his handy dandy pistol and points it at him. He says pretty much, “Go ahead, dare you.' Of course she doesn't. She decides to beat the living bejesus out of him and a funny thing happened along the way. Mojo sees that flailing away and slapping is not working, so she thinks,(apparently) that maybe she can just screw him to death. He survived.

Clara is at work sucking up to FerNasty as per Nieves's insistence.  But Clara is a bit late getting to 'work' at Grope-oh Can'tdo and FerNasty just summarily fires her and tells her to get her happy ass off premises or she is calling the popo. BITCH. Claims Vic actually does not need her any more. Um, because they have wrung every last drop of information from her already?   FerNasty is a Dam Bitch. A dam evil bitch. Was that out loud?

It looks like a séance at the Can'tdo manse. The sky is falling, Mojo is missing. Everyone is wringing their hands over the missing SM freak Mojo. They just need to drag out the Ouiji board now and let it point which way she went. Ewww (FAKE) blames himself because he hasn't gotten a psych for Majo. LIAR. Anybody try tracking or calling her phone?
Look people, give it a break, she is BUSY.....REAL BUSY...............right now.

Back at the auxilliary popo station where Adriana and static electricity hair boy live, Ad wonders to Leo why he walked away from Elisa. Meanwhile, as she is driving around the park looking for Mojo Ovary Overdrive calls Leo A G A I N. Stalker. Adriana tells him he should answer, which he does this time.

Meanwhile back at beatings and booty, Majo wants to leave. She (NOW) doesn't want to see Scario. Yikes even I feel used, Majo. Scario tells her “You're the best thing that has ever happened to me.”
Um...well compared to shooting people, kidnapping people, beating up people, Majo's Matress Torture Test probably does seem like a positive change.

Ewww calls Scario looking for ...his car keys? a hamburger? the code to the FBI bunker? Majo, of course. But Scario 'hasn't seen her' (with her clothes on?) Eww tells him to find her. Meanwhile, 
Majo wants him to take her home. She won't tell the popo.

Scario tells her she will have to kill him if she wants to leave.
But soon we see Uber Dario drop her off at home.

In a moment of unexpected sanity, Vic thinks of calling the popo. But that idea is squashed immediately by the 'Find Majo' committee. Renutty anthropologist suggests maybe Majo is depressed and possibly has Stockholm syndrome and misses her kidnapper.

Back to Lying Little Miss El and her puppy. The pup (Leo) asks if she has gotten a call from Cobra (Scario). She blithely admits yeah, he did call her again. But she can't tell him that he actually kidnapped her, cause that would expose another whole bag of lies.

Majo saunters back in to the shock of the 'Find Majo' committee. If one of these Cantu girls told the truth their tongue would explode. She tells them she went for a walk and sort of got lost.

Leo is none too happy about Scario calling El and her not telling him. What are you just fishing for lies Leo? She says he only called that one time.

Leo will tell JL to assign cops to watch the house. If she has problems she can call JL.

Eww corners her and tells El that they need to talk. Gives her a little peck on the cheek. UGH!. Rather have a poke in the eye with a stick.

Mop is concerned about the nursery ReNutty has already set up, as she knows very well that a baby is only wishful thinking.

He does want a child with her but some other way...maybe adopting. (Or with Sonia? )

Ren knows they won't allow her to adopt.

FerNasty and Poodle are plotting and Fab wants FerNasty to get rid of Elisa. Speak of the devil, who's at the door but Miss El. Needs some girl talk time to talk about messing up with Leo. So Fabulous Poodle hides and listens. (Do these hiding guys ever sneeze or fart?) FerNasty tells El she deserves soooo much more than a plain old cop. And look on the bright side, she needs to concentrate on her work, and lucky her, she now has Poodle to help her.

All the while Leo is talking to Adriana about El. She tells him he needs to give it a chance. He is afraid of being hurt, rightly so.

After El is sent packing Fer tells Fab to take advantage of El having problems with Leo.

Yup EVIL AND NASTY!! Now time for Poodle's reward. Such as it may be.

Nieves and Clara are at the bank trying to get money from Julia's account that she used her alias with. But the account is frozen .

After three days Elisa has given up on that see thru white blouse and has a cute little red dress today. On the advice of FerNasty we are sure, Poodle is at El's desk at work sucking up to her. Oh, and can you believe it, he just broke up with his GF before coming back to Mx. Lucky you again El. It is just Magic to be working with her, blah blah blah....he is there for her....blah ..blah..stupid..blah.


Leo talked to his boss who gave him the go ahead for the investigation...but it has to be kept between them. Oh shoot I forgot static electricity hair on Mario.


Mop is working on turning their 6 million dollar doll into cash. He and his buddy take it to a broker.
Broker wants to see what he is supposed to sell. He is was not interested but he knows a dealer that might be interested. They can go today. The fellow takes some pics so he can verify the authenticity of it.
Ewww catches up with El so they can chat and asks what business she has going with the gallery. He has had his partners checking all her accounts and they found large amounts being transferred

If she is doing something that helped her dad, she can count on him. (fishing?)

El tells him she sold some art work .

Why do we want to see this? Toad , soon to be JL ex bumps into an old flame who is taken with how nice she looks (One of those Big Beautiful Women aficionados)

El apologizes to Leo. She knows it wasn't right to take the diary. Leo asks why she took it and what she found. She is embarrassed to say... she fell in love with him. Carlos Musica.





Comments:
Best I could do on short notice Patio. The new Blogger is soooo much easier.

Nina I finally saw Mario's hair last night. He dries it with the Shop Vac?

Fifty shades of Majo. Whew! If that is foreplay, no wonder she always just lays there and hardly has enough energy to speak afterwards. Those Cantu girls 'Loco en la cabeza, loco en la cama'.

FerNasty needs a firehouse pole to the basement for when WHOEVER man is there and El stops by. Like the old laundry chutes but for contraband men. I'd like to throw her dow the laundry chute to hell.
And exactly who died and left FerNasty in charge to hire and fire anyway? Forget these psychopaths Clara. All the women you know are coo coo for Cocoa Puffs at the very least. Run away and move to a different town.

And Mop, underneath all that hair, there is just roots, nothing else. There has to be a dozen ways to annonymously market the 6 million dollar man . Tor network, dark web, Craigslist, scribble on shithouse wall at local pub, anything but in person. Oh Well, live and learn, …....maybe.
 

Kirby: Howdy from the Alamo City. Thank you very much for the detailed recap.

Majo is confusing me. She's really that scatter-brained isn't she ? Dario is still up to no good!
 

Morning Steve. That whole Cantu bunch is about half crazy, each in their own way it seems. We have the absolute pure evil ones Ewwwgenio and FerNasty and Chief of police, but then a pile of the others we can't seem to pigeonhole them as good or bad or crazy or sane.
 

Kirby, Kirby, Kirby...ROFLOL Great snark as usual, especially as this episodio leant itself so well to it. A whole episodio of lousy filler. "Mojo is missing. Everyone is wringing their hands" Boringly borrar-able!
"Meanwhile back at beatings and booty" LOL Dario is gettin' his back in spades, now....
" Grope-oh Can'tdo"
"(Or with Sonia? )" --by means of a Mop-bop?? Oh noes!! Doesn't adoption even miss the point of her being emotionally incapable of caring for a kid, not just mal-facturing one while on meds?

Thanks for cheering up my Saturday morning!
 

Thank you, kirby, I appreciate you recalling the continuing crazy. In a world that seems to be increasing!y fictional, I am grasping at any and all distractions from crazy reality ..even this odd show. Are there writers ? Did they actually have a storyline in mind of did they just go in everyday and spin a wheel with limited options.

So far, the plot revolves around Scariogain kidnapping both El and Mojo or one of them. I have noticed that nobody is kidnapping Ren. Not even Tio or Scario want to deal with that particular brand of Cray Cray .

Do the writers know the backstories of these characters ? Do they know what Julia was really up to with Auggie , or was it the end of the work day and they decided to tackle that tomorrow ...and forgot.

It feels like the characters don't know who they are or what they are supposed to be doing , and I am starting to fear that the writers dont know either.

That scene of Scario and Mojo screaming and slapping and grabbing was very, very weird. Scario has that crazy look on his face all the time now . Scario has become Borio. The savage love isn't believable .

Leo looks as confused as I am . The actor now always looks kind of lost and embarrassed 😳. Why am I here ? Why am I saying these lines? What am I supposed to be Doing?

Fern's memo From the writers simply read " Try to look super duper sexy and evil and sneaky until we actually figure out what your role in this mystery is. We will get back to you when we know. "

We could probably figure out the memos the other actors received from the writers because they all just keep repeating lines and facial expressions and actions .....act crazy...act scary...act creepy....act confused...act like you care....act sexy ...



 

Thanks, Kirby, for giving this thing more life In your retelling than it had in the first place.

Majo and Darío deserve each other. They even looked the same when they were snarling and baring their teeth at each other. From the angle of the camera, it looks like they did it on purpose. It made them look like two dogs. No glamour shots for those two. I wonder what those two would look like not scowling. Darío was even frowning as the flower delivery man.

Renata may have her problems but Free Renata!

And Elisa STILL hasn’t told Leo the whole story of what she is up against.






 

Is it just me or does this show have an amazing number of scenes of people getting in and out of cars ? Dario Scario Uberio Floraldeliverio

Too bad Dario wasnt an undercover cop. That would have been interesting to see him team up with Leo. They would both have had a storyline .

I don't think that I have ever seen a leading lady with less to do. I actually feel sorry for Angelique because I thought she did a good job in other roles I have seen her in. She can play the good girl as well as the bad girl , but I dont think she has enough to do or say in this show. We see her fretting, reading, talking on the cellphone, pleading ,eating , drinking, cringing , pleading and getting in and out of cars. I miss Leo cooking. ..


 

I just could not take another road to nowhere episode seriously. Well, I was taking it fairly seriously until I read "Grope-oh Can'tdo" and "static electricity hair boy".

Running in circles, running into walls and a few teetering on the precipice of the abyss.

"...a pile of the others we can't seem to pigeonhole them as good or bad or crazy or sane" is indeed at the heart of this Kirby. Would it be fair to say a mix of all of the above?

It's now hard to distinguish what Elisa spews is fact, fiction or an outright lie. She seems to move from one pouty faced scene to another, adding a slight smile and a barely distinguishable, slightly less shedding of tears.

Teresa showed more emotion (along with an actual smile)to someone she hasn't seen in years than we've ever seen her bestow on her husband and daughter. How miserably unhappy she is. But far worse, she has sown her anger and resentment into the fabric and heart of her family. She is dangerous to their health and I fervently hope she runs off with this sad sack, leaving JL and their daughter to find the much deserved happiness they deserve.

Susanlynn, I agree that Leo's lines are lackluster. I like him better when he is assertive and self assured. But Elisa is leading him by a leash and he will need to either succumb and submit or leave.

And yes, we are feeling that Angelique's character as written is not the strong woman we want her to be. But I'm not sure we've seen every side.

Marcelo best run. Far and quickly.

"Claims Vic actually does not need her any more. Um, because they have wrung every last drop of information from her already?". Astute and spot on observation Kirby. And Vicky won't intercede as Clara is useless to her except to belittle and berate.

"Scario tells her “You're the best thing that has ever happened to me.”
Um...well compared to shooting people, kidnapping people, beating up people, Majo's Matress Torture Test probably does seem like a positive change" nailed it. Purely primal.

"They even looked the same when they were snarling and baring their teeth at each other. From the angle of the camera, it looks like they did it on purpose. It made them look like two dogs. No glamour shots for those two" captured that amazingly well Jarifa.

Kirby, thank you for the excellent recap. Savored every word.

Diana
 

So Fab wants Fern to get rid of El. Did he mean kill her ? Why? Dario and Tio think they need El , but now Fab wants Fern to "get rid of her." Everything seems to revolve around El for these villains while all the Cantu clan of women seem totally oblivious to what is unfolding around them since Auggie was killed.
 

Kirby! Kirby! Kirby! I sure have missed your humor! Thank you for making this so much more entertaining than what it really was.

This TN seems to be taking a nosedive for reasons already stated quite well by you and Susanlynn. I am not wasting anymore of my energy or brain trying to figure out what is going to happen next or who is good/bad/in-between; it's simply a waste of time. But I do keep watching mainly because of Renata who, at this point, is probably the most same and honest of them all.

Susanlynn, you are on a roll today! Your take on the characters and writers is spot on!

Diana, "Teresa showed more emotion (along with an actual smile)to someone she hasn't seen in years than we've ever seen her bestow on her husband and daughter." Yes, she did! I am wondering how it was that this guy just happened to bump into her...out of nowhere. I'm so suspicious of everyone...could this be one of Scario's set-ups?

Susanlynn, "So Fab wants Fern to get rid of El. Did he mean kill her ?" No, he didn't mean that at all. Fab just wanted Fer to find some excuse to make Elisa go away..so that they could continue their couch-moving.

Food for thought--Giselle Gonzalez also produced "Caer en Tentacion" and "Cuna de Lobos." In CET, the main female protag (played by Silvia Navarro) was the "good wife" up until the very end when it was revealed that it was she who killed her husband's mistress. Most of us here saw CDL and know what a horrible ending that had. So-o, we can probably expect the same type of shocker of an ending with this "thriller."

 

Diana, when I think of it, the real fault in this novela is the plot and not necessarily the actors. Look at what they have to deal with. Also, they can’t help if/when they are told to act or look a certain way by a director while participating in the goofy storyline.
 

TN writers and directors, please take note--

(Jarifa) when I think of it, the real fault in this novela is the plot and not necessarily the actors. Look at what they have to deal with. Also, they can’t help if/when they are told to act or look a certain way by a director while participating in the goofy storyline.
 

RGV thanks for everything you do for us here at Caray and your help on this one today.

Oh Boy, after reading how Giselle Gonzalez likes non conventional un happy, gut wrenching hateful endings, there are ALL KINDS of black widow things that could happen in this one.

Little Clara and Adriana are the only females I'd trust with my favorite wrench, much less my life. The whole lot of the rest of them, Yikes ! Even ole Dario, a simple assed fun little kidnapping, now look at the mess he is in now that he has met most of Elvira's understudies.

I have not seen any future episodes or read any synopsis or anything, but I just have this uneasy feeling that Miss Elisa has a bunch more tricks up her sleeves. There are just enough warning signs that I'd be hiding under my truck.
 

Chickie...i think that i was on a roll because life in general has been so bizarre lately and i seem to be trying to reconnect with the snarky someone i used to be. Also, i was trying to deAl with massive piles of leaves in the front yard and throwing walnuts into the woods and needed to take a break and vent somewhere. I abso!utely hated the ending of Cuna and was so angry that the vile villain seemed to escape any form of anvil. I !iked the traditional telenovelas in which the bad were punished and tbe good rewarded. Now, as in real life, these new villains don't seem to get punished but instead ride off into the finale to supposed!y cause more pain and suffering to innocents .

kirby, your comment made me think of a song I heard on The Voice awhile ago " That Ain't My Truck. "

P.s. As soon as i saw tbe huge flower arrangement being delivered by the guy in tbe baseball cap with his head down, i thougbt " Hey, that is crazy Scario . It seems this actor is taking the opportunity to chew up the scenery with this character in hopes of getting future roles as a crazy, scary villain .
 

O kirby you should recap more often
You are dam good at it.
Your snark is so funny. And The "Majo mattress torture test",lol that sounds like an ad for sexual sadism people.
And yes his hair looks like he put on a sweater and it rose and didnt go Back down. Lol, and he is such a serious young man.

Have I mentioned how much I can't Not stand FERNASTY? That was nasty the way she treated clara. She should have been nieves spawn. Clara should pack up and move out,
But that would leave dad at the mercy of her greedy for money momma
Who seems to just throw her kids to
Whoever will give the money. Wonder if She's more angry at herself cuz
She knew what julia was doin and she certainly didnt want nobody in
The way of her money getting scams.
In any case I feel sorry for clara.
She's got a her whole life ahead of her and shes stuck with a mean momma, and dying daddy, and vicky and fernasty just used her to get imfo about her sister. And agian I
Dont believe she and popa auggy was rollin around in heat of weird hot
Passion. He seemed to me to be a man of some integrity. See, this is what happens when they keep going around on this crazy rollercoaster ride instead of giving us some sort
Of answer to all the weirdness.

I sincerely hope that Elisa isn't involved on this dirty dealin mess.
But I have seen the actress play dirty before and she does it quit well. Even to murder. I just want to kkow who kilded auggy n julia. And why. They shot her in the head, and she died with eyes open, she saw her murderer. And this person was angry. And they put them in the
Car together. That sounds like a thing an angry woman would do. And not give 2 dams if shes pregnant.
Not sayin it was elisa. But I would not be surprised if some angry bitch is behind this and the mop n
Scario, the crooked police guy and all the others are just minions.
Just guessing but what if?

Alright kirby, thank you for an amazing recap. You snarked it up baby, so funny. Just what I needed. Now patio Yall have a good weekend and stay safe.
 

Until I read all your comments, I hadn’t really focused on everyone’s hair-dos EXCEPT Elisa, a main character, who normally looks beautiful In other TNs:
As many of you are questioning whether there might be some dark stuff about her, I think they deliberately gave her that ridiculous hairdo that (as Nina said), looks like she washed her hair and forgot to comb it out or use a product, which makes her look more innocent and natural and trusting, somehow. Just a thought. In her case, i think that insane “do” is very deliberate.
She is really confusing to me and if i didn’t know her prior excellent work, i would think she is just not a good actor . Her delivery when she is with Leo is so ridiculous- monotone, no inflection, no heart, like she is reading a script to memorize lines. We can sort of guess what these characters might have up their sleeve, but i have NO clue with her,
 

You guys. I'm starting to think Dario might not be so good. Pretty sure the whole, "I love you which is why I won't let you leave without traumatizing you more and then I'll stalk you when you do somehow get to leave" won't work in the end. But good on Renata! She's the only one who seems to get what's going on with Majo. Maybe she has had therapy and is putting it to use with her sister.

So if someone handed you a thing worth 6 million dollars, would you ever hold it with one hand and then put it in a lightweight sack to take it around the City? Or would you surround it with all the pillows and caution tape you could find? Maybe a towel, or some padding at least? Marcelo isn't long for this world (see: Sofia) but he's going to break this thing before he ever has a chance to sell it. Which would actually be pretty funny given that it (I think) belongs, or "belongs", to Eugenio who deserves to have it dropped.

Kelly
 

Kelly, right. When Mop and Sonia were gawking at The 6 million dollar Teletubby it was standing on top of like a black speaker or small table or something. It does not appear to be made of the same material as Barbie and GI Joe, and I was just waiting for the cat to hop up to take a look too and splat!
 

‘Kirby. You are right. The six million dollar Teletubby shows how little the set staff is putting an effort into this TN! Really, they are in Mexico presumably. Surely a flea market would have had a more convincing ‘artifact’ This pathetic, tiny, tiny rubber/plastic image would not fetch 6 million buttons let alone currency. Sad.
 

Kirby, for something written on short notice, this was amazingly witty and funny, like always. What can you come up with when you have time to prepare??
I read your recap at 2 in the morning, after a very long shift, I was very tired but laughing in my pillow, trying not to wake up my husband, who was peacefully snoring next to me.

Could Elisa be secretly culpable of something or the other, or is she just a little princess whose daddy was killed and she's suddenly lost because she was never taught to handle life without him? I can't see her as a backpack wearing criminal mastermind, besides we've seen her cry and look anguished when all alone several times. Maybe she's just as dumb as she looks.
As for the acting, I've seen some of these actors do a far better job in other shows, sometimes the story or the direction is just bad.

Susanlynn, I also loved your snark. Leo will probably go back to the kitchen as soon as he and Elisa go to the "gym" - no spoiler, but it will happen eventually.
Life is definitely stranger than tv these days. Most of France has been placed under curfew as of last night, getting home from work at 2 in the morning is spookier than anything I've seen lately in a novela.

Kelly, ITA that having that Teletubby (lol) in plan sight just like that is stupid. Just like it was stupid of Elisa to casually place the million dollars bag on her couch, for anyone to grab.

 

I, too, feared for that little six million dollar man being handled so carelessly by Marcelo and Sonia...but then....well..it's Marcelo and Sonia who are carelessly fooling around right under Tio Rug's old,
nasty nose. Those two are not exactly a brain trust.

OT...Adriana, quiet Paris streets...our weird new world, right ? I always dreamed of going to Paris ever since I was Suzette in high school French class.
 

Anonymous... "Would not fetch six million buttons"....ha...good one.
 

Well, I tried lookin gup some prehistoric sculptures and came up with NADA that looks like what Mop. Oh well, like someone said, you can probably find something better at the flea market LOL

More proof of how cold the Ice Queen really is: There was a scene that was cut (or I missed it) where Nieves is talking to Clara at their home. Nieves tells Clara to not look so sad and worried...her father might suspect something. After Nieves walks away, Clara sadly looks at pics of Julia and self-talks, "I hope that someday I can be as brave as you were." I just hope she doesn't end up as dead as Julia was. Clara is such a sweet girl; I hope she finds the inner strength to do what is best for HER.

Susanlynn, sending good vibes toward your way so that you can successfully reconnect with the snarky someone you used to be...she's a hoot! :-)
 

RGV Hey! I want in on this sending good healing vibes to Susanlynn, so before you hit 'SEND' here, put mine in there too please.

Thanks kj
 

Yes one of the most ongoing, heart breaking things in this story is the sacrifice, if you will, of little Clara. She is just a sweet, nice, innocent little young woman who is not really mature enough nor otherwise equipped to deal with the evil which envelops her. Evil which is mostly manifest in her despicable Mother.

If Leo were an Alpha and not so mousey, he could step in and put a stop to this, or help her escape, or protect her or something.
 

Chickie and kirby, thank you .

I think Leo was being very galanlike for awhile . He was trying to help El and Leslie . He obviously loves his mother and brother which is always a requirement to be galan. He was kind to Renata who seems to get so little kindness from anyone in her family. He "rescued "Mojo. Then, it seems like the writers forgot to give him anything proactive and galanlike to do.

Sunny and chilly here. I have been doing a lot of raking and wondering if it is time to have some big trees taken down. Uff.
 

Big Trees Taken Down?

You'd better hopeo they aren't thinking the same about those meddling little humans down there. :-)
 

More power to ya SusyQ. Snarkity power that is.
Hopefully something good will come about with this tale of "what the hell Is what" this week.

 

Hi Nina and kirby, i am eager to see where this show goes tomorrow night . I hope that we have some forward movement and not just the same old same old. Right now, we are just going round and round.

 

Kirby: The Police Chief is dirty ?
 

Steve: Yes, the skeleton face looking guy Gilberto who is always taking his orders from EWWWGENIO.!

The one who, for no obvious reasons, keeps telling Jose Louis and Adriana not to investigate the murders of Julia and Augusto.

The one who is constantly secretly telephoning Ewwwgenio and Dario.

Prolly the next one we will see in the barrel at Fernanda's. Just kidding.

Being Mexican, his job title is prolly El Comandanto or Supremeo PoPo or Grande Muckito Mucho some such.
 

We still don’t know who the sperm donor is for Juanito, FerNasty’s little boy.
 

But then, the way this thing is going we don’t know much of anything 😂
 

I think when we find out who is Who, when did he/she do, what is what, why is why, and what the hell.....we'll be to tired to
Give-a-dam.🥱
 

Fam dog is out....only cause there's NOT one.
 

Do they have a butler ? Ewwgenio's housekeeper knows where all the bodies are burried, I bet.
 

I'm not in agreement that Elisa is a dumb, spoiled little princess. So far, IMO, she's shown more gumption than the rest of the family. Also, it appears that Renata and Mojo are both two inflated seat cushions with nothing but air inside.

Victoria is the one I can't figure out. Doth she protest too much, did she know about her husband's side business and encourage it because it helped pay to keep her in a lifestyle she thought she deserved, or is she just a superfluous, horrible Mom?

Where did the Cantú money originate? Victoria's family or her husband's hard work. Was Agustin being forced by Mophead?
 

Victoria those are good questions. Were Auggie and TioRug in dirty dealings together ? Did Vick know about them ? I also wonder if Dario had his own side hustle separate from his dear, old, raunchy, smarmy dad. Let's hope the story moves along tonight. And at some point, will we see the scenes of Leo and El that are in the introduction ?
 

Victoria, I respect your opinion and I agree that Elisa has been put in a situation that requires gumption; and she has been able to "hold it together" to a certain degree, but I have not seen, or rather the writers have not shown us, that she is doing nothing more than follow Dario's orders. She has not looked for any evidence regarding her father's illicit business nor has she been making any effort to gather evidence that she is being forced to launder the money (i.e., recording calls, jotting details down about every call/threat). She keeps saying that she will take care of things herself, but I really don't see how, not without telling anyone, especially Leo, what is really going on. She simply cannot fight the villains on her own. On top of that, she (and no one else in the family) has a clue that Ewwgenio is the mastermind (well, he thinks he is the mastermind since Fernasty is also playing him).

Majo hasn't proven to be any sharper; and, despite her cray-crayness, Renata does show spurts of intelligence when she is calm and lucid.

Of course this is just my opinion :-)
 

Susanlynn, I was writing while you posted. Dario, though he does follow Ewwgenio's orders (most of the time) does have his own agenda. IMO, he does have a sort of "side hustle" but only with the intention of avenging his father.

I'm really not sure if TioRug and Auggie were in the business as partners, but apparently Tio Rug new every detail about it. How is it that Tio Rug has the stolen art that Dario insists Elisa look for? It seems that Dario doesn't know that Ewwgenio has the stolen art. Maybe Ewwgenio is just making Dario believe that so that he can do all of these things to retaliate against the family. I see a BIG coverup here...and EVERY villain is backstabbing the other villains. This is definitely a battle of evils.
 

Chickie...hmmmm...I didn't realize that Tio Rug has the stolen artifacts that Dario thinks El has. So..neither Dario nor I knew that . It seems that We have multiple baddies..Tio, Fern, and Dario ...at cross purposes . A tangled web. And the Cantu clan can't figure out that Tio and Fern are not their friends.
 

Susanlynn, actually I am just assuming that Tio Rug has ALL the stolen artifacts. And FerNasty has to be in with him since she had access to that prehistoric sculpture she gave Marcelo.
 

RGV I pretty much see Elisa as you do. She may have shown some gumption, though it was forced from her at gunpoint. Everything she has done thus far has been in situations where she had no other choice, and she has scarcely been proactive at all, as you said. No taking notes, no 'building a case' no sleuthing around. Thus far it looks to me that she has only done exactly the things she was forced to do and pretty much nothing else. Given the situation, and the omnipresent cell phones, I would have thought she would have already gotten Leo and Adriana to install tracking apps and audio / video secret recording apps on her phone. If Candy Crush Saga can do it, Leo and company should be able to spy on them thru her phone.
 

Moreover, the above makes me think she is hiding a LOT and that we will begin to see a different side of her. There is hardly any other explanation for the lead in a show like this.
 

Remember the days when there were no Cellphones or tablets on telenovelas? Then, they suddenly started to appear.On one show,one woman smashed her sister with a rock down by the river of no return , and we kept wondering when someone was going to find a video of the event on that cellphone.
 

Yeah that was the infamous 'River Phone' in Vino. We watched for that dam phone thru the whole show and to no avail.
 

Good work, Kirby.

Yes, the writers left us high and dry about the cellphone in Vino, but phones are now so much more sophisticated. Remember that the phone at the crime scene in Vino was much older in tech years than the ones we are now seeing in IdM.

No way in hell would any social worker allow Renata to adopt a child of any age. Not with her record of mental illness no matter what the truth ultimately ends up being. I also think Marcelo has no intention of staying with her. He is looking to get away with Sonia, but I don't see that happening at all.

Fernanda is evil incarnate. We can blame part of that on her mother. As for who is the sperm donor for the boy, I think it could be either Fabricio or Augusto. We need to get a better look at the kid. Televisa's casting department usually helps out with that sort of thing.

Majo could end up being sicker than Renata ever was.

I am not sure now whether Victoria ever knew anything about the art trafficking.

When Eugenio kissed one of the girls in this episode I was seriously creeped out. He looks like he has obscene ideas beyond the ones about Victoria.
 

Thanks. Renata and adoption: I'd be surprised if there is not a black market in adoptions like almost everything else.
Given the scene we saw at the beginning, with Leo finding the truckload of little kids, it is surprising the writers have not sprinkled that in with Renata somehow.
 

Urban, yes, i cannot believe that after all these years of Tio Rug smarming around that Victoria's and the girls' creepy guy radar has not sounded an alarm.
 

RgV Chick
Good points.


 

Tonight's will be a little late, probably at 9 or 10 in the morning. Rough weekend.
 





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