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As I posted on Page 1, I will do a recap tonight, Thursday, April 13
 

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juego

#27 – Parte 1 de 2

In the car outside the gas station Adriana orders César not to come out of the convenience store inside. She tells him she screwed up, like always. She won’t let him come with her. She tells him it’s nearby and drives off.

There’s a very sad scene with Tomás and Pascual. Tomas says that sex for him represents a dark place. He remembers a Russian woman, sweaty, on top of him and refusing to let him up. Because of this he can only “see” women in his computer. “You screwed up my life. You think my mother is a monster. You’re the monster. When I needed a father, you weren’t there.” Later we see Pascual dissolve in tears.

Chuy picks the lock at Adriana’s escondite (hideout). Francisco Javier comes in. He smells a bottle of perfume on the mantel and confirms it’s hers. He smells her clothes. Then he tells Chuy to leave. He’s going to wait for her to come back.

Linda Márquez shows up at César’s house. Camila gives her a look a lot like Linda gave Camila and Yvonne before. Linda says they were able to verify who took Noelia, a woman named Luisa Ulloa. She might have appeared kindly on the camera, but she’s a paid assassin!

Inés gets past Renata to see Tomás. He verbally beats himself up and agrees with his mother that he’s unfit to be a father. Inés urges him to not give up on his dream.

In the house where Adriana had been FJ finds some earrings that he gave her. Chuy refuses to tell FJ how he found out her hiding place. We can see that Chuy is torn. He doesn’t want to mention that Pascual probably arranged the house for Adriana. He doesn’t want to hurt his “brother” nor risk the wrath of Renata.

Linda gets Elvira to tell her where Cesar has gone.

Adriana shows up at that house telling Noelia she’s back. They embrace. Adriana tells her that the woman (Luisa) will take her to her father and that she, Adriana, isn’t coming home. She tells the child that she does care for César, and that César adores Noelia. Viewerville is convinced at this point that Adriana has come to give her life for her daughter. The hard-faced woman says that they’ll both stay here. And she doesn’t know who Carita Sucia is.

Linda and several cruisers show up at the gas station. César is furious. He lets Linda know that Adriana contacted him. He tells them they have to leave. Noelia’s life is at stake.

Luisa hears sirens and pulls a gun. Adriana tells the woman she isn’t going to do anything especially to a child of nine years.
 

juego

#27 – Parte 2 de 2

Elvira tells Cami she thought all along that César chose the wrong woman for his wife. There were always secrets. And things got worse when she became pregnant. There’s a flashback to Elvira saying something about Adriana having been unfaithful. Adriana barks back that she’s sure César looks at every skirt passing by now that she’s so huge. She blurts out that she doesn’t want the girl. Girls only have bad lives in a world of men.

We see Adriana trying to calm Luisa and to lift Noelia’s spirits. The witch tells Adriana to call César. On the phone she tells him tersely that Noelia can’t leave yet and that he needs to trust her.

Rocío comes to César’s house and sticks up for Adriana to Camila and Elvira.

We get a flashback to FJ telling Adriana that he saw her dancing in the club as Diana de Nadie. But he loves her anyway and wants to go away with her.

Adriana approaches the one-way mirror and asks who’s behind it. She asks if its Cara Sucia

César comes home and Elvira and Cami realize he hasn’t got Noelia.

Ale comes looking for FJ and encounters Chuy. She’s snippy with him and gives him a copy of the magazine. [Wow. Telenovela Publishing is nearly as fast as Telenovela Airlines.]

Now Gumchew is at César’s with Linda. César tells him the cops ruined everything. Adriana calls. She tells him to keep the cops out of things. She wants the phone number of someone besides César who can come get Noelia where she’ll direct them. They don’t trust César anymore.

FJ gets in Tomás’ face about Adriana and then realizes that Tomas doesn’t know anything.

FJ comes in to see his father and says that he found where Adriana was hiding. [We see Big Ed struggling to keep his face calm.] FJ says he doesn’t know how Chuy knew where, maybe it was his mother, but Chuy won’t say. He wants his father to accompany Ale in the interviews that have been set up because he wants to go there and wait for Adriana to return. “You’re the only person I’d trust.” [!!] He says he has to confront her and get to the bottom of all the lies.

Of course Camila says she’ll be the one to go get Noelia.

 

Juego

Novelera, thank for that excellent account of this unfolding mystery. I am very confused about where this show is going . What has DAMA gotten herself into with this paid assassin ? I thought she was just a wild , restless girl who got involved with all the Del Rio men .
 

juego

thanks so much novelera !!!

that was quite a show!

we get to see a different kind of love/bond between Noelia and her mother, whereas Adriana's distrust of men has led her to teach Noelia to cope/survive, but always treating her with respect, as her dad is different, always treating her as a little girl, they truly seem to love each other, Adriana even willing to sacrifice her life.

but at the same time it's hard to get a good read on Adriana, is she wacko, getting pregnant with a girl was a definite turning point in her marriage.

and what is it with Ines, after stabbing Tomas, is she now on board, are we looking at a future mom?

strange scene with gum chewing Rocio and Cami, both going "who is that woman".

and I'm not really trusting Cami, there is something off here, she walks right into Cesar's house even offering to fix Elvira a cup of tea. I think Cesar should take Linda out for dinner, now there is a lady that can turn things around in a hurry, as we/he have already seen.

yep, the magazine is out with the photo shoot, the one Olga told Chuy, he would never be in.

ah, so do we think Pascual set up the house Adriana was hiding in, does he know more about her current situation, or is he just there for the sex? what a family these del Rios.

(I was reading up on 2-way mirrors, on most if you touch your fingernail to the glass and there is no space between the image, it's a 2-way mirror, whereas if there is a small space it's a regular one).

 

juego

Thanks VERY much, novelera, for this terrific recap. I found it very helpful, though my scalp still hurts from all the headscratching I did while watching the episode.

Mostly, of course, I'm confused about Adriana, as I guess I'm supposed to be. Elvira claims she never liked Adriana and felt from the start that César's marriage had been a mistake. Adriana always had all kinds of secrets. And we see Elvira shocked when Adriana announces that she doesn't the baby she is about to give birth to. She seems especially upset that it's a girl. (But would she have been OK had the baby been a boy? Somehow, I doubt it.)

I'm confused about Adriana's current situation. Like SusanLynn, I thought she was just wild and unhappy, unhappy especially with her life as César's wife and Noelia's mother. How/why did she get involved with "Carita Sucia"? Is that how she financed her three other lives?

And why is it so important to Adriana that César not step outside the gas station's convenience store?

The scene when Adriana returns by herself to the place where Noelia is being held was interesting. When she opens the door and Noelia sees that it's her mother, Noelia's face shows a marvellous mixture of ecstacy and disbelief. I also found interesting Noelia's explanation of the different kind of love she has for Adriana (who treats her like a grownup) and César (who treats her like a child.) Until that explanation, I had always found it hard to understand why Noelia was so extremely sad that her mother had left. All we had watched until this scene was Adriana being cold, uncomfortable, even unloving toward her daughter.

What prompts Rocio to show up suddenly at César's house?

When César returns home without Noelia, his mother asks "and the niña?" César just shakes his head very sadly. If I hadn't known better, I'd have thought he was saying that Noelia was dead, and Elvira may have interpreted it that way. I thought it was odd that César initially gave that impression.

I won't get started now on the crazy del Rios. The disfunction of four of them does make me wonder at times if even Cami will turn out to be tainted as well. I don't really think so, but....
 

juego

Thanks, all, for the kind remarks. Yep, that was one amazing episode last night. I wasn't up for writing everything that happened, and thanks for filling in the blanks.

deb, you still suspect Cami? You're right so often you're making me wonder. I didn't think it was odd that Cami walked right in. She and Elvira have come a long way in a very short time. Elvira even called her mi amor a time or two last night. I think Elvira is all in on Cami for a HEA with César.

Susanlynn, yes. At the beginning DAMA was portrayed as a free spirit not suited to life as a wife and mother. I remember her asking César early on: "What happened to us?" Now it seems there's been a lot going on in her life with Cara Sucia and this Luisa person that we're just now finding out. The thing that really surprised me last night was Luisa, the sicaria (female hitwoman) saying she didn't know any Cara Sucia. Either Adriana has more than one enemy or Luisa knows that person by a different name.

Juanita, I think Adriana would have been a better mother to a boy. Of course she said to her mother-in-law that she didn't want to be pregnant at all. But because of awful things that happened to her, perhaps in the orphanage or perhaps in a foster home, having a daughter would prove traumatic. It seems she made the best of it by trying to make her female child strong for the bad things she expected men and boys to do to her in the future.

Juanita, Rocío showed up to talk with Elvira because, as she said, she saw the news about the child being kidnapped on TV. We saw a scene where Rocío expressed a very grandmotherly affection toward the child a while ago.

I can hardly wait to see Alejandra's face when she finds out Pascual will be doing the interviews that, I think, Verónica has set up.
 

juego

novelera- my original thought was that in this story of twists and turns if the writers were going to throw a surprise ending at us it would involve the most unlikely character which for me would be Cami.

and looking back I'm having trouble with the famous novela "gran amor", maybe because of the characters, especially Arap's intense looks.

but then there is the part where Cami was all in from the start when Cesar was very much married and looking for his wife, then when he hears Adriana took the million from Renata he does a 180 and is now all in, but then Cami finds out she was lied to and backs off, and now that Cesar is stressed into another world, she is moving right into his house, what the... doesn't she ever go to work?

and then there is what Juanita said about her being a del Rio.

how am I doing, is everybody suspicious yet?

 

"SENOR 8" Episode #1218:

Novelera, Deb, Jarifa, Halimacandy, Anon, VVS, Weirdo, Kirby, UA, OS, Vicky, Susanlynn, Dondi356 & Co.,: Howdy from the Alamo City folks. Here's a very short mini-recap of last night's episode:

Crazy Tracy & DEA Lackey presumably quit the DEA after being scolded by DEA & Castillo.

Corina FINALLY wakes up & Colon informs Aurelio about it on the phone.

Grenas, Ishmael, Skinny & Co., playing video games LOL.

The Casillas family enjoying lunch or dinner: Aww.

Isabella Castillo (Diana Amuhada) is freaking HOT & damn SEXY.

Berenice sends screenshots of credible information to Diana via cell phone.

Steve Boudreaux
 

Juego

Thank you Novelera, I definitely appreciate the recaps even more with this mystery, so much to try to keep up with!

I actually do suspect Cami half the time, but I think a big part of that might be that I am also watching and recapping Corazon Guerrero and the same actress plays in absolute loca character in that one so I can too easily imagine the crazy behind Cami's 'normal' exterior. I agree with you Deb that this story is primed for a twist ending...I guess we'll see.

I am confused as always. Is Cara Sucia friend or foe to Adriana? Is Adriana the hunter or the hunted? I am also still wondering if DAMA is just one person or if it's possible there are identical twins/triplets in this. I thought Adriana's reaction when first seeing Noelia was a little off, I can't put my finger on it exactly but something was not quite right. I was thinking if there were multiple DAMA'S it could be that this one is not Noelia's birth mother and she felt guilty/uncomfortable pretending....I don't know. I am probably just making it up but I don't understand what IS happening so I might as well make up my own story. lol

I am not 100% convinced any one person in this is good or trustworthy and I think that plenty of them could be. The only opinions I have decided on definitively are: Renata and Pascual are both horrible human beings and awful parents who are both capable of evil - to what degree we don't yet know; and Ale is a grade A awful B*tch - vicious or just vain...that's what we don't yet know.
 

juego

Well, it looks as if there may not be a recap today, so I guess I'll just post a few things I remember from last night's episode (#28?). They're probably not in order of occurrence.

Adriana wants Noelia to go back to César. Noelia wants Adriana to stay with her, not leave again. Adriana remains firm. She reminds Noelia that "we're strong women." Noelia says she tries, but she can't. Adriana assures her it's OK to cry, but do it when no one else is around. Noelia asks, "Is that what you do?" "Of course," replies Adriana. Finally, after mother and daughter sing a song together, a blindfolded Noelia very reluctantly gets into the car driven by the woman with the gun. Adriana, also blindfolded, comes as well. They meet up with Camila's car, at which point the blindfolds are removed. Adriana insists that Noelia go to Camila. "And don't look back!" She says this several times, followed by "Run, run!" I half expected the assassin woman ((llya? Ullya?), who has her pistol out, will shoot Adriana as soon as or shortly after Noelia is with Camila. Did Adriana expect that as well? Why else would she insist that Noelia run and not look back? Were the writers just playing with us again? Anyway, my fears seem not to have been realized.

At some point (probably after Camila has returned with Noelia), César says "I shouldn't have put you at risk." Camila says, I think, that she did what she did for Noelia. César says, "I know I've made many mistakes, but I love you." IIRC, Camila says "I love you" as well, and they hug and kiss. Of course, somehow there's a photographer just waiting for this to happen, and he takes photos. I suspect it won't be long before these photos are used as evidence against both of them.

Back at the Del Rio Zoo, Ray tells Tomás that the police have linked Jacinta's murder and Estela's. Since Estela had said that Adriana's husband shot her (actually, I think she said Mariana's husband, but....), all they have to do is have Camila testify to this effect in court, and César will be found guilty of not just Estela's murder but Jacinta's as well. When Camila returns to the Del Rio Zoo, Ray and Tomás tell her the "good news" about how Tomás can be cleared of all charges--she just has to testify in court to what Estela told her. Needless to say, Camila says she won't do this.

One more item: FJ returns to Adriana's place to wait for her. He gets a phone call from her saying that people are threatening to kill her, and they're demanding $5 million to set her free. FJ first goes to his parents, who (surprise, surprise) are not willing to help him. He then goes to see César and says "You have to help me save Adriana." It's possible the episode ends on this note. I'm not sure.
 

Juego

Juanita, thank you for the recap of the escalating weirdness . Is Adriana really being held for ransom, or is she playing the Del Rios to get $5 mil ?

I just watched the episode where DAMA talks to the mirror and asks if Dirty Face is there. Is Dirty Face actually holding her hostage , or has DAMA gone BSC?.

I thought Ale or Elvis might be Dirty Face. Maybe Ines is Dirty Face.

Yvonne is a very annoying person . She is right There at the front of the line that has formed for Cesar. I think this actor makes a more convincing villain than galan.
 

juego

Thanks very much, SusanLynn, for your insightful comments. I've been assuming that Adriana really is being held for ransom, but you raise a very interesting alternative possibility. I guess I would have thought that if she were just out for the money, she'd have taken the $1 million that Renata had bribed her with to leave and not come back. But who knows? This novela is definitely keeping us guessing.

Somehow I think I remember someone saying that Cara Sucia was a boy Adriana knew in the orphanage. However, if I had a dollar for every incorrect memory, I'd be a very wealthy woman.

Yes, I too really can't stand Yvonne. The only good thing is that everyone else who knows her seems to recognize what she's after.

I agree that it's hard to see Arap Bethke as the galan, since he continually looks so fierce. But I remember seeing him as the galan in Eva la trailera and found him much more appealing. I'm not sure why he keeps looking so fierce in Juego.
 

juego

Thanks so much, Juanita, for the mini-cap to get us started. I especially liked "Del Rio Zoo"! I see Pascual as a male lion, lying around and procreating, leaving all the work to the females. I can see Renata as a nasty orangutan. Tomás somewhat resembles a frightened lemur.

I don't know what the point of blindfolding Adriana and Noelia was. Adriana came there of her own accord, so she knows the location. And Noelia came there willingly in broad daylight.

VVS and I, early on, were thinking about DAMA having multiple personality disorder. But the Adriana who we saw last night seemed like the same person we saw at the very beginning. She was determined to get Noelia out of there in one piece and managed to "handle" the sicaria.

I want to see Gumchew in an orange jumpsuit. Last night he was scheming with Renata to somehow tie César to the frozen account that has the $1 million in it. They didn't actually show Inés giving him the account information. At first she wanted a warrant. But he had it up on his screen.

I'm still not suspicious of Camila. I read somewhere that this was her first "good girl" protagonist role. Yes, she's played a lot of baddies in the past. I especially remember her in El Nombre del Amor.

I have seen Arap as a good guy several times and somehow missed the villain roles. He was adorable in Doña Bárbara, in love with an older woman. I also saw him in Eva la Trailera as the galán. Maybe it's the awful stubble. In his other roles he was clean shaven! FJ also has that going on, but it's not so thick. Arap's father is German, I believe, so maybe that European beard comes in much darker. Sorry, I hate stubble on men.
 

OT Novelera , is that Dona Barbara starring Edith Gonzales ? If so, I don't remember Wrap in that show.
 

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Yes, Susanlynn. Arap played Antonio, one of the many attractive ranch hands in Doña Bárbara. I believe Antonio was close to Santos, the main galan. He fell in love with Cecilia, who, IIRC, was Santos' aunt. She kept resisting him because she was a lot older.
 

juego

thanks so much Juanita for your recap!

here are some things I remember, there may be some overlap.

first is a chain of events, FJ has told Pascual that Chuy led him to Adriana, after Pascual sweats that one out he pounces on Chuy, who are you working for, well it's evident even though honorable Chuy is tight lipped and also indicates he did not tell FJ about following Pascual to find her, this calms him a little bit.

next Pascual ponces on Renata, apparently they have some agreement not to spy on each other, Renata ta ta's this away but sinks in her chair when Pascual drives in the stake, what you did reignited FJ's flame for Adriana and has put the wedding in jeopardy.

next Renata calls Chuy to her office, "your fired". (not sure what this means as Eva is still around).

.....

as Alejandra is upset at FJ's absence, Chuy jumps in with his agenda, "you need a good man devoted only to you", her reply was something like "when the girlfriend is gone for ever, problem solved", what? this surprised me, she doesn't know about the current Adriana situation, unless...

and later this is reinforced by a convo between Cesar, Noelia, and Elvira about Cara Sucia, when Cesar says something like, what if Cara is a woman that's jealous of Adriana?

(yep, Ale you're guilty, as long as we don't factor in the emails)

.....

I found the hostage situation rather strange, apparently Noelia was taken to get at Adriana, and Adriana made some sort of deal to show up, but once she does aren't all bets off, especially if she is to be killed, or is something else going on?

and the exchange, they could have just dropped Noelia off at the gas station or even a bus stop.

interesting Adriana's last advice to Noelia as she walked to Cami, (as a woman) "keep moving forward and don't look back".

(my first thought on the 5 million was campaign contribution).

.....

after the Cami and Cesar hug and kiss the conversation went something like we can't be together now, Noelia needs you, our lives are a mess, etc., but soon, we will be together.

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after FJ's parents turn him down for the money, doesn't he spill that he has a plan, and of course that doesn't include giving up the money. (I maybe wrong here)

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I think Yvonne has been ignored her whole life, has anyone seen her with a friend?

.....

ok Tomas is clean because there was no DNA in Jacinta's place, and Cesar is clear because the videos show he left Estela hours before her death, but GumChew said he could fix this, make it minutes, plus the frozen million dollar account is a tax haven which are always murky so there wouldn't be a problem tying the account to Cesar.

 

juego

Thank you so much deb, novelera and Juanita for providing the highlights and recaps of this twist and turning TN. I was traveling all week and just got caught up on the episodes. So much is going on!

Loved the “Del Rio zoo” Juanita. novelera, your classification of Del Rio family members as animals of that zoo is spot on! I also do not think Cami is involved in any of the nefarious activities. But heck, at this point Olga could be Cara Sucia.

I think the mysterious caller demanding five million from FJ is the same voice as the one who called him in the second episode telling him that Mariana was not who she said she was. Perhaps Cara Sucia is the orphan boy turned puppet master.

The one-way mirror in the hostage house was an interesting twist and perhaps a clue. Could Cara Sucia be the strip club bar owner? He might have pretended not to know DAMA when she came to audition.

I think Renata firing Chuy is going to backfire on her. Chuy knows too much and he is already angry about the way he is treated because of his social status.

It is great to read everyone else’s comments! I like how this TN is really making us all think!

I am back “in the office” this week and should be able to take on a couple of recaps. I will volunteer to post the recap for the Monday episode.


 

Juego

Thanks to everyone for providing recaps, highlights and comments.

I really liked reading your theories!

I am completely confused with this story. The moment you think you're on to something, something else happens unexpectedly and you start questioning everything again!

I also expect a surprise twist in the end. I do not really think it's going to be any of the baddies we already know, such as: Renata, Pasqual, Alejandra and not Tomás either.

I'm currently suspecting almost everyone, even the two cops and Eva. She sure finds poisoning people she doesn't love easy. Just saying!

Thanks again. I'll make a recap for this week's episode. I wanted to do this for this week but some things happened and I was unable to.
 

juego

Many thanks to novelera, deb, VVS, and Weirdo, for your perceptive comments.

Novelera, I loved your description of the animals in the Del Rio zoo!! And I agree that there's little point in blindfolding Noelia and Adriana except to make the situation look more ominous. As you say, both have already seen the location where they're being held.

Deb, I too found the hostage situation very strange.

VVS, I guess I was mistaken about its being Adriana who called FJ as he's waitiing for her to return. If the voice was male, as you say, perhaps it's Cara Sucia calling, and perhaps he's the boy from the orphanage, now a grown man. Perhaps.

Weirdo, I think you're right in thinking that almost everyone is a suspect except the most obvious baddies. However, I can't quite see Linda Marquez as a suspect, at least not yet :-).
 

"JUEGO":

Weirdo: Like I've said before: I do NOT trust anybody in this Telenovela of CRAZY twists! Big question is whether we'll see Telemundo bringing this back for 2nd Season ?

Steve Boudreaux
 

Juego

Thank you Juanita and Deb for the details on Friday's episode! Juanita I don't think you were wrong about it being Adriana that called FJ. IIRC it even showed Adriana on the phone when the call was taking place, I'm pretty sure it was her.

I don't understand why FJ is so eager to give Adriana $5 million dollars, I mean even if he does love her it's nonsensical. You had a relationship with the woman and thought she was going to run away with you, instead she takes $1 million dollars from your mother and fakes her death to get away from you....next she's alive again but in mortal danger and needs $5 million dollars and you don't even blink you just run off determine to save her without even a moment's worth of doubt?? He just blindly believes her???

I thought something seemed a little off in how Cami and Adriana interacted with each other during the exchange of Noelia from the phone call to the actual meet up, Adriana seemed initally surprised to realized it was Cami on the phone but not overly shocked or confused which I think she should have been considering Cami and Cesar were not in each other's orbits as far as Adriana knew. Then at the exchange, Cami was oddly calm and didn't seem the least bit nervous, afriad, uneasy, nothing; she's just standing there waiting. I don't know maybe I'm just seeing things since we're talking about her being suspicious but it struck me as odd.


While were sitting at the 'Cami might be suspicious' table, I'd just like to point out, Thomas is a traumatized little creepy man, FJ clearly has some equally unhealthy love attachments that just manifest in different ways, so what are the odds that Cami is healthy and normal while the rest of the family is disturbed?? hmm....


 

juego

hmm, I was confused about the call so I was able to go back and have a look, when FJ returns to Adriana's hideout he gets a call from Adriana (and we see it's her) asking if he is looking for her, where are you he responds and before they can talk further, Luisa rips away the phone (and we see that it is her) and says, "relax babe, if you want her to live you have to give me $5 million".

Darcy, interesting comments as always, I'm thinking Adriana has FJ so twisted up that his main concern is keeping her alive so that he can get his sought after explanation.

 

Juego

This show keeps getting more and more confusing .

I am trying to figure out who would want to kill Estela and Jacinta. One knew DAMA from the foundation and the other from the strip club . I thought it might be DAMA who killed them, but I couldn't figure out why. I don't think Cami is evil.

Is Cara Sucio a man? Do we know that for sure ? Elvis is corrupt and weird , so I
He could be the killer.

We thought that DAMA was dead when this show started , but now she is alive and others are dead. ????????