Caray, Caray!

jefa

Thanks so much, Juanita, for the mini-cap. You hit the high points to get things started. It's almost time for the East Coast folks to watch, but this is the first time I've been able to comment.

Lurk, thanks for stopping by with some fine snark. I would like to mention that the front page of Telemundo asks that commenters not reveal plot points of earlier versions of the one we're watching. I'm spared knowing these things because I never saw the one that's been mentioned here, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Yes, now it makes sense that the attractive woman who bugged out before the shooting started turns out to be a key player. Another thing that struck me is this: Why in the world, with Sebastián (Pepe Gámez) in her bed, would Sonia be having something with the revolting Jacinto?

In a way this seems like some older novelas on Uni. By that I mean there's SO many rotten females. Lucia is in first place in this horse race, but her sister is not far behind. And we have Sonia coming up on the rails. I do not love the numbers of scheming women in some novelas, feeling offended for my own gender.

I was surprised that we learned so soon that Juan José really did abscond with money from what sounded like a raid on a drug deal. And, his plan would have worked because the guy who originally stole it had died. He would have gotten away with it if Sonia hadn't overheard her husband and brother-in-law talking.

Recently IRL some people were killed who had gone to Mexico for some sort of cosmetic surgery. IIRC the cartel for that region either killed or turned over to the authorities the ones who'd committed the crime. Bad for business.

I guess they're showing some common tropes in the narco world. I've read about their hanging heads from freeway overpasses. In this case, they hung all of JJ's body. It was very sad when we saw Sebastián desperately trying to get his brother's body down. I was not sure if just to preserve his brother's dignity or to get that sign about his having been guilty of fraud away before the news vans could arrive.
 

"JEFA"
Novelera: The largest group of Antagonists scheming & plotting to destroy Gloria & anyone else standing in their way.

Big question is whether or not Gloria will have any friends willing to help her ?

 

Venganza #75 part 1
*Good news for Alfredo, only Gabriel is arrested. He tells Gabriel to keep his mouth shut, don't say anything without his lawyer present.
*Joseph doesn't run for the hills and offers Ana his support.
*Monica, Sebastian, and Marcelo are with Brenda in someone's apartment. They are offering her support. I think she said there were more than 2 guys and she wants them all to be caught.
* Mirna the confessor, is in her usual role as counselor to Fernanda. She asks why are you so intent on punishing Alfredo and hating the entire family. It was you that killed his wife, sent his daughter to the nuthouse, separated Elisa from the love of her life and also killed Manuela. Fernanda is still hung up being Alfredo's sex doll and on her having to always "feliz de Papa" and for that he must be punished. Myrna says but you allowed it so it isn't his fault. Fernanda says because Eugenio made me do it. Myrna points out, exactly, Eugenio is the culprit here. What is important is your child. Leave this place. Fernanda says not without francisco.myrna says you are stubborn as a mule. Myrna is worried about Roberto. Roberto is nothing to me Myrna, Fernanda says
*Alonso and Elisa discuss Gabriel. Then Alonso asks her about Tania. He tells her she has been like an angel to him.
*Paty calls Erika, who is looking quite pregnant now. She tells her Gabriel was arrested. 2 detainees fingered him as the mastermind. Claudia, Fermin and Nacho are with Erika. Claudia says she is sure the 2 are Miguel and Rafita. Lightbulb moment for Erika Fermin and Nacho that Claudia knew about their involvement. Erika tells her God will never forgive her for not saying anything. Claudia insists it was because she was worried for their safety.
*Marcelo calls Marcelo and company and on speakerphone tells them Gabriel is accused of the deaths of the parents and brothers of Brenda. She can't believe it.
*Miguel and Rafita won't tell on their accomplices.
*Fernanda calls Roberto who is at the emergency room feeling awful.
*Brenda recalls Fernanda saying how strange her brothers and her parents were all killed. She realizes that must be why he didn't want the divorce and it is a small jump to realize she was likely their next target. She wants him to get the death penalty.
*Gabriel is being questioned by the police. He blabs after being presented with some facts.
*Alfredo wants to talk to Gabriel alone.
Paty sits at the dining table with Ana and Alonso. She wonders who will take over Gabriel's position. Ana says not so do as he can barely read or write. They realize he will get the death penalty since he murdered 4 people. Paty says poor pap. Alonso tells her to go away, take a bath, perfume yourself and play your role with papa. He wants her to leave them alone.
*Brenda thinks Alfredo is in on it all as Gabriel never does anything without his input. She won't rest until all guilty are caught.
*Elisa tells Francisco about maiming Alonso on promise of secrecy. Does Alonso know? Nope. She couldn't tell him.
*Next day, the press are outside the office. The scandal will damage the rep of the business. Sebastian and Dad talk. He is convinced Gabriel is insane. He is blaming the bad blood of their mother for Gabriel's ( and Ana's) mental illness.
*Paty visits Fernanda. She says you work fast. Nobody knows I have you the info. What info Fernanda asks.
* Roberto has cancer in the other kidney. It needs to come out. Dialysis will keep him alive until he is able to have a donor.
*Elisa visits Moni. This is where Brenda has been staying. Elisa apologizes for her brother.
* Mug shots of Miguel and Rafita are taken. They hope they get sent to the same prison, lol. Gabriel is sent to their holding cell. He insults them for turning him in. They say we should never have gotten involved with trash like you. Them's fighting words. He gets beat up by the two

 

Venganza #75 part 2
*Press parked outside the del Pino house. Claudia talks with fermin'. She wonders if Nacho will forgive her.
*Alonso calls Tania and plays her. Says his injury actually was the best thing that happened to him. He loves her.
*Alfredo and Sebastian talk. Roberto is MIA. Sebastian is worried about the business. I think he wants Sebastian to take on Gabriel's position in the company.
Fernanda calls Roberto and learns his news. He is resigned to dying. Fernanda rolls her eyes but does say where there is life there is hope. Myrna walks in and tells her his news.
* Marcelo tells Francisco that Brenda believes Alfredo is also involved. Francisco is in agreement but date not mention the possibility to Elisa.
*Brenda tells Elisa and Moni she wants a divorce and Gabriel to be executed. Brenda says the press want to interview her. Elisa says it's the same at the business.
*Fernanda tells Elisa and Francisco, at the office, that Roberto is back in the hospital and will lose his other kidney. Fernanda tells Francisco she doesn't believe in being a single mother. Francisco says I won't marry you. She says, no problem, I'm going to another state to abort it

 

"VENGANZA" HIGHLIGHTS DISCUSSION
Kat in SC: Thanks for your exciting recap of last night's episode. My personal thoughts.
130.) Crazy Goldie Locks aborting the baby was NOT surprising. Yet, FL has the most anti-abortion laws in the Sunshine State: she does realize the South is ANTI-abortion.

131.) How long can Alfredo avoid getting his Karma ? With just 20 episodes left, it might NOT be long.

132.) Memo to Tania: Slick Alonso has you figured out & he will get his revenge on YOU.

133.) Right on cue: Scumbag Alfredo blames his late first wife, Maria Louisa's bad blood. Really JACKASS?

134.) Erika was right to call out Big Mouth Claudia for Claudia's complicity in the deaths of Brenda's parents, etc., God does NOT like ugly Claudia & you will get some Karma down the road.

135.) Mooching Roberto's other kidney is having issues? Maybe if they kill of one of the characters: he might get BOTH kidneys.

136.) Miguel, Rafita, Gabriel in prison: Let's see how long Gabriel will slither his way out of this situation.

137.) Brenda: You're very brave in wanting justice for your brothers & parents, but you need to WATCH YOUR BACK.d

138.) Eugenio still NOT dead: Gotta believe he will reemerge at some point during Ultimos Capitulos.

139.) Nacho MIGHT forgive Big Mouth Claudia, but we'll see. Fermin & Erika: Next time, do NOT let that Big Mouth tattle tell on your friends about anything.

140.) Paty: You still do NOT get it, don't you? OMG.

141.) Sebastian, Monica, Ana, Elisa, Francisco, Marcelo, Brenda all need to LEAVE FL ASAP.

142.) Myrna: You're going to go down too once all of this chaos is over.

 

jefa

attack of the Zippo, ouch!

money, money, where's the money?

ahh, $200,000 dirty money in a backpack JJ left with Sebas for Gloria and Daniel in case something went wrong, not that anything could possibly go wrong.

does Sonia sleeze have to tag along, couldn't they have just dropped her off on the curb?

get some rope, I see a nice bridge calling for sister Luisa, she can yell her comments to the cars passing by.

 

jefa

looks like the Duque owns everyone in town, hmm, but who is his boss?

tough being a college student there, exploding ankle bracelets, Yikes! son of the Guzmán's housekeeper, head of his class, needs to take a crash course in lock picking.

this is not a Dizi, el (not Jose) Cuervo is following Gloria around smashing her stuff instead of smelling it. Ace of spades is it?

 

"JEFA"
Lurk: When I see Luisa & the other ugly sister, I just press the beautiful MUTE button whenever they're on.

The old saying: The large group of Antagonists are going to keep expletive around & find out the HARD WAY when Gloria gets her revenge. Mark my words!

 

jefa

Thanks, Lurk, for getting us started. I can add a few things.

We see Cuervo waiting behind a wall in what I assume is Gloria's house. (I'm not sure how he got in.) Gloria is there, wishing to herself that JJ had told her something, anything, about the missing money.

We also have a brief look at a young woman who is a chemist. Alas, the narcos apparently wanted some chemists, so they apparently kidnapped her (and others). One of the narcos tells her that the metal thing they've just attached to her leg won't cause her any problem as long as she is there. But if she tries to leave, the metal thing will explode.

Agent Torres's assistant locates Torris's sister and makes an appointment at the same clinic where she is. He eventually meets her and proposes that they have coffee. She ultimately decides that there's something strange about him and the circumstances of their meeting, and she leaves. It's not yet clear what this has to do with the other aspects of the novela.

Back at Gloria's, Gloria has left, but Cuervo is still there. He looks at photos of Gloria and her family, and he kisses one of the photos of Gloria. He leaves what looks like a playing card and leaves.

Gloria learns that all her family's assets have been frozen, including bank accounts, supposedly because of the investigation into the missing $5 million.

Gloria meets Facundo, the very capable son of one of her mother's employees. But uh oh, we learn that he too is studying chemistry (like the young woman who was kidnapped).

Gloria's mother prays to the Virgin Mary to help Gloria and give her the strength she'll need.

Jacinto, who may be part of the family and is the Governor of somewhere or other, presses Gloria (literally as well as figuratively) to tell him where the money is. She gets away from him for a moment, but he catches up with her and grabs her again.

Some people are pressuring Duque to do more to pressure Gloria into telling him where the money is. He replies that he is patient, that little by little she'll become more desperate and will come to him.

I don't recall the name of the young woman chemist who was kidnapped, but we do see that some people are surprised that she seems to be missing. She has always been so responsible.

Meanwhile, the young woman chemist is told by one of the other captured people that one person did try to escape, but the ankle thingie exploded, "and he bled out in front of us."

There's much much more, but as usual I can't recall what it is. I hope others will chime in.
 

jefa

Thanks so much, Lurk and Juanita for getting the comments started. Lurk, I am also wondering who El Duque reports to. I guess he has that apodo because he doesn't look like a narco, well dressed and elegant. And yes, not a dizi, so less smelling. Although Cuervo did smell Gloria's wedding garter just before his beatdown to prevent a rape.

Juanita, I suspect Torres will have a key role as things move along. In the Wiki, he's listed second, right after Fabiola Guajardo. The writers are definitely including real headline items in Mexico: proliferation of bargain cosmetic surgeries and corpses or partial corpses displayed for all to see.

I also really hated the young chemist being kidnapped. I have a sense that we're in for weeks of darkness before any light.

Jacinto is said to be the Governor of Baja California, which is one of the 31 states in Mexico. There is no similarity to the current governor of that state. Mr. Google tells me that it's a woman, Marina del Pilar Avila Olmeda.

Not only did the one escapee, I think, have his leg blown off. But the sadistic people in charge of this drug factory deliberately let him bleed to death as an example to the other captured chemistry majors.

I would like to defend Mexican doctors. Seems like Mexico either doesn't have or has a very weak version of the AMA. Many years ago, I worked with a young Mexican man who did a lot of damage playing soccer on Saturday. He went to Mexico and had excellent surgery for probably 1/20th of the U.S. cost. Since he did it on the weekend, Workers Comp was not available for him to be treated here and he'd declined the company medical insurance, not wanting to pay the 50% of the premium the company plan had.
 

jefa

Thanks, Juanita, Lurk, and novelera, for supplying recaps, highlights, and comments.

Not much to add to your Thursday recap, Juanita. You covered the important stuff.

I don’t know what to think of this TN. Still not so impressed. Will this reboot make me miss Blanca Soto?

I hope we have enough interest to maintain a patio, no matter how small. I would hate to see the Telemundo page go dark once Venganza ends.

I will attempt a recap for tonight and post it on Saturday.

 

Jefa

I watched the second episode . I don't like dark, violent shows, but there are familiar faces that I like . I'll keep watching for awhile . susan
 

jefa

thanks Juanita for the recap!

and all for the comments, here is some more tidbits.

the young girl kidnapped by the narcos finds out the new drugs today require higher trained personnel, thus the kidnapping of students.

that was pretty strange that the quack agent Torres has his assistant go on a coffee date with his sister ?? while he listens and watches through a camera in his glasses, it was more like the assistant was hitting on her.

El Cuervo left a card at Gloria's with the Ace of Spades on it, also the tattoo on his wrist, also the label put in the drug merc to identify the brand, she slipped the card into her pants.

Gloria has an independent accounting business, which also got attached by the warrant, and none of her clients will advance her any money.

Jacinto, I think is married to sister Luisa.

Luisa set up the wake of their father separate from JJ's and tried to kick Gloria out. Strange how no one was at JJ's.

the Duque's plan is to take out all of the people around Gloria, I think there is an arrest warrant for Sebas for attacking governor Jacinto, till she comes begging to him, El Cuervo wants to do the up close surveillance on Gloria, and Duque has to jerk back on his leash.

 

jefa

oops, looks like Jacinto is with the other sister.