Friday, August 22, 2008
Fuego 8-21-08 Thurs : Vale mas un buen Amor... A good love is worth more than....
We start with Rosario and the boys separately overhearing Sara professing how much she still loves Franco, but that all is lost...he loves her not.
Ok, so the first one to react to this is Rosi. She tells Ofi how it breaks her heart to see her flesh and blood so distraught and that she must do something to help. Hmmm...
Feo finishes his conversation with Crabi while Raquel cowers on the floor. Where is the pride!! He tells her they will talk about it at home ad pleeeasse will you just go ahead of me!! He gets in the car and yells at Raquel to not complain to him. Arghhh...
Back at the small bread shop turned house full of ever increasing bodies with only one shower practically in the living room and previously only one bedroom that all three grown men slept in together...the boys fight over going to pick up Franco and who gets the hot water first and Oscar steals the coin. Sofi worries about her sister. Juan tells her not to worry that she isn't the likes of nun, and she'll snap out of it.
We then see Sara paying a visit to our oh so animated Padre seeking counsel.
Oscar and Juan chat while he takes a shower when Quinti asks them if they are going to participate in the chile festival this coming weekend. Oz think it would be a good distraction for Franco so Juan says fine count us in. There is a conversation about if they had the hacienda for the jaripeo event or something but I didn't catch this so feel free to add in if you did.
Paddy Tad essentially tells Sara that she has found love love so she should try for that and give up the idea of being a nun. In fact he orders it of her and there are no buts about it.
All of a sudden Franco is back and there is much rejoicing. Yeahh..... and some toasting Rigoberto's brother (I can't remember his name, darn) makes the announcement that he and Eugenia have formalized their commitment and they are on the path to marriage. Everyone smiles except Eug and Sofi; they make smirks like they know there's more to it. Random older man comes out of the woodwork and makes the confession that he's always liked both sisters Quin and Hort, but he's decided on one and it's Hort. She is amenable to this idea.
Franco feels so special with all these stories of love and Pedro is about to rain on the parade that not all love stories have happy ending when Paddy Tad shows up proudly bringing in Sara to join in the celebrations. Everyone is thrilled and Franco tells her to sit by him because they have a lot to talk about.
Back at Bad Love, Feo yells at Rosi to get dressed to go on and she says nope, not tonight honey I still have a headache. She says she needs to rest and maybe will go on tomorrow. She wants to think about how she is living her life. She doesn't care what he thinks. He thinks she's confused with all that's happened and so ok, she can wait till tomorrow. She mutters after he's gone if he only knew she was going to give up Franco for Sara.
Back at the celebration, Franco sings to Sara his famous song again (see one of my previous recaps for the words) and everyone joins in. Looks like they dubbed the music over it afterwards as he sounds awful. Scenes like this are why this novela is so popular. In the other room Pedro wallows in his despair, he misses his Mami. He does make a portentous statement that his Pa abandoned them and only God knows something of him if he's alive or dead.
Benito is complaining about the Reyes asserting their rights over the hacienda and that they need a lawyer fast. He thinks this is all an error and that what Raqui thought too, she'll have to speak to Fernando C to get advice and to Crabi, because this time like it or not Crabi has to help them.
Uh oh...Crabi finds out that Sara left the nunnery with help from Paddy Tad.
OK, finally Juan and Sofi are worrying about where everyone will fit in that place. Yeah, thank you. Anyway, the worry shifts to her sisters and that even if Sara isn't going to be a nun she has no vocation. She thinks though that eventually her Mom will have to take her back.
Oh no....the next scene is Crabi smacking the jalapenos out of Sarita and shaming her for disappointing her despite being her favorite, oh and get out of the house. OK so she doesn't and goes to her G-Pa and tells him the story. She is going to live in the zoo with him. And there is much rejoicing.
Next we see Raqui searching a trunk and drawers for the house papers. What does she pull out, but that illusive belt buckle that Juan always dreams of and is dreaming of at this very moment in a flashback to his parents' murder. Raqui lets the public in that this belt buckle belonged to her husband Ricardo...aha moment. Raqui says how he always wore it.
Juan tells Sofi he's had the nightmare again and the culprit will pay.
In Crabi's love nest, she slithers her lips over him and discovers his serpent tattoo.
Sofi reminds Juan of her own nightmares. Say it with me folks, they agree they will be together "para siempre."
Feo tells Crabi that's his favorite animal, it never fails, either poisoning or suffocating it's victim who slowly suffers their own death. He reminds of the Adam and Eve and original sin story with the serpent as tempter. He says this is the symbol of seduction and pleasure and that when you least expect, it gets you. Hmmm..
More pillow talk from Juan and Sofi, blah blah blah. Our love is stronger than anything and will cure all wounds....
The three kings comment on the tree they believed belonged to their Pa, and this tree represents them and their people. Juan flashes back to his Pa making them promise as kids to never give up and to protect these lands forever, and the promise they made on this tree symbol. They agree this is their mission in life.
At the zoo, Sara cares for Luisito and G-Pa, she's sad but better though still sad about her Ma's rejection. She does forgive slightly because Ma is sick. G-Pa says if she was so sick she wouldn't be getting set to marry Feo.
Back at "The Tree" Crabi and Feo show up trying to kick out the boys. They say no way these are our lands. Crabbi and Feo are impactados. Somehow Raqui shows up there too and tells Crabbi that now she knows what these thieves are up to and they want her hacienda and she has to help or Raqui will tell the whole world the truth. Crabi is again impactada.
She tells Raqui to shut up and if she reveals the secret, she will suffer more. Raqui doesn't care. She is prepared to do what it takes even if she prejudices both of them. The brothers leave, but not before noting that these people are indeed hiding some evil secret.
At the zoo G-Pa and Eva talk about Sara's change and how she will gain acceptance with Rosi through caring for the little boy.
Back at the mansion, Crabi wonders what hearing the Reyes were mentioning and Feo says not to bother herself with it.
Quinti is looking for spices when she comes across Libia's photo. She decides to put her in another location and decides no one will see her in the basket.
Pedro is waiting for the boys at the river, who tell him that Crabi and them didn't believe anything they said. Oscar can't wait until they get the Hacienda back. Franco says we shouldn't be disillusioned because none of us have ever worked in one so how will we compete. Oz thinks their luck will change. We are then treated to wet undies swimming fest x4. Yum. And that's where my tape cut off. I sure hope they replay this Friday!!!!
Labels: Fuego
Oooooooer! Shower scene **and* swimming hole scenes. Girls, we won the lottery in tonight's episode, no? WooHoooo..... Even Fuzzy Wuzzy went swimming. THANK YOU, Telerisa and Looneyvision. We were long overdue. I was giggling through both scenes. LOL Too bad they swam while wearing their tighty whiteys. I wanted the pixellated screen version. (wink/grin)
It was a busy episode; a lot happened!
doris
You have great wit and observational skills. You're a born communicator. So go for it!
The first few times I wrote a recap I was sweating bullets (mastering anything new, especially software, scares me) but I had a supportive team (as would you...the Fuego group is fantastic as you know) and you have a supportive group of reader/bloggers as well.
Maggie, on Guapos, jumped in and did it when there was a void at the Thursday night spot, even though her Spanish was limited to the present tense of the verb!
So go for it. You can do it. And you will thrive on it, I'm sure.
Anybody have any ideas?
There are other women besides the tres sisters of doom and gloom and marrying outside that family would probably be the best decision ever.
About the Tres Reyes, do they not realize that marrying all three sisters of Doom just Super increases the Reyes family Despair level?
Juan smelling his arm pit while Oscar showered makes me think these people have been working in too cramped quarters for too long.
Has Pedro met Rosario yet? I think I'd rather see him with Sarita, but that would spoil the symmetry that seems to be required in these things, so we need to find him a different woman.
Eugenia didn't look very happy about being engaged to Rigo. It makes no sense considering that Benito wants her!
And I don't know who that guy was who got engaged to Hortensia. If I'm supposed to take the trouble of learning his name, he'd better make himself useful!
And agreed on Doris having great recapper potential!
Also, forgot to mention yesterday or the day before - loved Beckster's analogy of chocolate to love.
OK, in light of last night I think that Ricardo is the head of the Snake Gang that killed the Robles parents but NOT the Big Boss. I think Pedro's father is the Big Boss. I think when they go to the rodeo, Pedro will have a big surprise.
Unless, by some dumb coincidence, Pedro is singing at the Tumbao when the Boss makes his big appearance. And the Boss thought bubbles "I wonder whatever happened to my son PEDRO REYES" just to ratchet up the irony.
NJ Sue
However, my skin crawled when Feo told Crabi his favorite animal was the snake and that it strikes from below while he was at Crabi's throat looking like he could bite her! Eeek!
I agree that The Big Boss might turn out to be Pedro's long-lost father.
Telenovelera in AZ
If that's the case then it should be much easier for her to explain that big check to Ricardo. "But dear, he's your son! I thought you'd WANT to help him!" Even if Feo and Ricardo don't get along, it still sounds like a plausible excuse to give him money.
Thanks to the TN writers, didn't I just bemoan the lack of showering and swimming only a day or so ago. I got my wish. What a delight. I too could have done without the pit smelling aside. I hate to see EY do anything so smarmy. By the way, why don't the girls ever bathe? Sarita went swimming. I think Sofia must be getting a bit ripe...
My favorite was a Brazilian one dubbed in Spanish.I can't for the life of me remember its name.Once in a while I've interpreted between Sign Language and Spanish.Currently I work with disabled students. MHM
Sofie does bathe, when Juan carries in the bowl, then sloshes water all over the bed.
I believe Sofie is far too modest to ever remove all her clothes, if she even caught site of a naked body (including her own reflection), well let's just say it would endanger the lil hijo conceived through many layers of clothing, and it would be Sofie in a catatonic state, no really I mean more catatonic than usual.
The reason my friend told me about you is that I'm a school administrator in a deaf school. Hope you enjoy C2 and the interaction here--I certainly do! Are you still a terp?
Jeanne (recapper for Querida Enemiga)
1)Ricardo is the nasty guy that whacked the Reyes/Robles, yes. He is not Coyote's Jefe, but is subordinant to Jefe.
3)Pedro's dad is the goof that stuck his nose into the Palacio de los Reyes, and chose Hortensia (WTF was THAT all about?)
4) Feo is Ricky's former thug, the snake is merely their way of showing their solidarity, their "colors"
5) "Ruth" is Raqui's daughter by Bernie Elizondo.
6) Augie is the real El Jefe, and has been playing them all (and us!)for fools all these years, using his wheelchair as a prop in his disguise of his real identity...
Loved the pit sniffing scene w/ EY. He wasn't looking too bad in the low slung towel & then he had to ruin it by snorting some manly underarm stink. Egads...what director in his right mind would tell an actor to do that?
Anyone notice Hortensia's smile last night? She either lost a tooth or she had an enormous piece of spinach stuck on one of her incisors. But did her fellow cast members discreetly mention it to her? No...the poor woman goes through her entire scene with the Man Who Shall Be Named sporting a huge black thing in her mouth.
We need more eye candy.
Maggie
p.s. to Judy B...there must be another Maggie out there! I've never recapped (due to fear & a lack of sufficient language skills) but I've gone by M in CT or Mad Maggie Marlowe in the past. I hope my doppelganger is as witty, charming & entertaining! (LOL as I write this)
I think that guy with Hortensia/Quintina was just joking about "choosing" between them. Quintina went along with it because she has a sense of humor. Hortensia looked worried because she's... uh... let's just say she's different from her sister.
Oh! You know what, I think he's the guy who runs the diner where Eugenia works.
I think Ruth is EVA'S daughter by Bernardo. If she was Ruth's biological daughter then they probably wouldn't have needed to do that land transfer.
On the other hand, why take land in exchange for a baby? That doesn't seem very discreet. Wouldn't a cash transfer have been a better way to keep a secret? Guess Ruth didn't have any cash, just a bunch of gaudy belt buckles.
Ruth, Ricardo, El Jefe...wonder if they're all one & the same? A transsexual schizophrenic. Yeah, that makes sense.
Hmmm...now what shall I call myself?
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(insert name here)
Jeanne
1. The networks produce garbage.
2. The educated viewers, the ones with more developed tastes, can't stand novelas and don't watch any of them because they are garbage.
3. The uneducated viewers, the ones who love pro wrestling and think "Desparate Housewives" is a masterpiece, those are the ones who flock to novelas.
4. Since the educated viewers have already abandoned all novelas, a well-developed work like Pasion does poorly. The remaining viewers like garbage, so Fuego does well.
Thus: Networks produce more garbage. Viewers with higher tastes stay away. The remaining audience wants more garbage. Networks produce more garbage. The cycle continues.
Before you start throwing tomatoes, …
A. This does not apply to English-speakers watching novelas. The challenge (or delight) of understanding the Spanish compensates for the brainlessness of the plots. Besides, we come together here and have intelligent and entertaining conversations about the show. Brigadoon, Toxic Waste Dump, Grandpa's get-ups, Bernardo's horse testifying against Feo ... great stuff!
B. There are always exceptions. Not every novela watcher fits my description. Only the majority. And there still remain a few quality novelas that attract a few educated viewers. But not enough to give them good ratings.
C. There are times in life when you need an escape. Many people turn to novelas during a life crisis, as a way to escape reality for an hour a day, without a hangover, without chemicals. I respect that.
Two observations to support my claim:
1. When I ask educated Mexicans about novelas, they almost all tell me they never watch.
2. I frequent a Spanish-language novela board, and the conversation is SO inane!
"Do you think Nell will end up with Dudley or Snidely?"
"Oh, I hope Nell marries Dudley. They are so beautiful together."
Yes, we have those conversations here, but on the Spanish board, that is ALL they talk about!
Okay, now you can throw the rotten tomatoes. I'm debating whether to post my name. I guess I'll be brave.
I leave you with a Jaime Camil quote from a chat in 2007:
Fan: What don't you like about Mexican TV and what would you like to see more of?
Jaime_Camil: .. more than seeing changes on television, I would like to see changes in the viewers, that they expect a little more from television stations.
You're both smart, funny and irreverent. She knows a little more Spanish than you do. That's all.
Judy B: thanks for the Maggie clarification & my new name. Now I'm hot stuff!
Fuego en la Maggie
;-)
It's the same here as in Mexico. (Check out some of the US soap opera message boards. It's still mostly discussions about couples.) The list of really clever shows produced in the US may look impressive until you compare it to the list of crap that also gets produced here. The only reason the better ones get produced at all is because people in the US are typically more affluent than those in Mexico, therefore we can afford more channels (and movies, and computers, and video games) and are less likely to settle for watching something we don't love. Thus they have to give us a better variety of choices or they lose us.
And then we export those shows to other countries, where the more affluent households pay to watch them. I'm sure it's much more profitable in some countries to import the better shows than to produce them.
Beckster, asshats made me almost drench my keyboard in diet coke.
CherylNM, thank the powers that be that there was finally some swimming and a shower! Woohoo!
From my understanding, GENERALLY yes, I'll agree that well educated people watch fewer novelas overall, they also tend to watch less TV overall possibly because of the "garbage out" rule you quoted or more probably because they have other things to occupy their time and the money to do them with.
BUT, the reason, as far as I know, for the success of this novela in Mexico has less to do with it's literary quality, and more to do with the people. The cast is tremendous, really, and nearly all of these folks are long time well respected and incredibly famous endearing actors, playing fun characters, and people watch because they love the interactions between all of them. My experience has been that Mexican celebrities generally are far more in touch with and genererous with their personal lives and time to their publico (than US stars) and hence their publico is fiercly loyal.
Also, Mexicans in general, those who love their country and don't put on airs that they would rather live in Europe or the US are also very proud of their heritage and traditions, and while maybe out of place or incongruous with the story and settings, this novela is chock full of distinctly Mexican cultural references to feed this pride.
Costumes, famous musical numbers, ferias and traditional events like the passion of Christ etc. These identifications with the pop culture (stars) combined with traditional culture (music, festivals, mexicana) are what draw the viewers to this novela and also what draws me.
And hello, first we had an educational segment on Chiles en Nogada, now we had to go through five minutes of the public service announcement for folic acid??? This novela is getting funnier (or ridiculous) everyday.
Finally, either Luisito is Nora Salinas’ real kid, or he is finally coming out of his shell! For a second he got rid of that look on his face, blank stare, and he actually had a facial expression! Could Hortensia have blackened out that tooth space a little more believably? Where are the special effects people? I can see the piece of black paper on her “missing” tooth! I think they spent all their budget on Raquel’s wigs. Those are actually nice wigs.
I love Quintina….breath of fresh air…Granps is funny…and Fuzzy Wuzzy….perfect name…he’s a cross between a real bear and a human!
And saint Sofia? How pathetic…I just want to smack her sometimes! And whoever came up with Bratz for Jimena, high five! Another perfect description! Hey…where’s father Tad’s burro!???? I miss him!!!! He’s the only real ass in the novella! The rest of the humans do a pretty good job…although Johnny boy confuses me with those horse teeth!
Ricardo Uribe is supposed to be a stand-alone bad guy from the way he's described - don't think he's jefe of other thugs, just one big psychopath on his own.
I'm still wondering what happened to the parents of the Tweedles, and how come they ended up living with Raquel and Ricardo Uribe? Think this detail will ever be explained.
PanQue
But I agree with you -- sheesh, what a gang, and you can bet their offspring will all have lowered IQs, and glow greenish in the dark, too!
Ooops, I lied -- one more thing, How come Padre Tadeo whispers hoarsely all the time now? Any theories? In the beginning he used to speak clearly so we could hear him well and understand what he said. But now he has that raspy whisper where ya can't always follow - especially if there's some background giant cricket or some rattling snake or some theme music.
PanQue
I'm not sure who was putting on airs and wanting to live in the US or Europe, but I don't think it's pretentious to be attracted to other cultures (I think that's what we're doing here?), nor is it unusual for young people to dream of living someplace that they see as more exotic or more promising to their goals. I admire people who pursue their dreams. I don't think it means that they don't love their country or aren't proud of their own heritage.
But maybe you had someone specific in mind, and I missed that... in which case never mind. I'm quite aware that there are pretentious twits, too! :)
I also wondered if Pedro's dad is Ricardo Uribe (someone mentioned this already, too). He could be illegitimate love child, etc. etc. etc. Pedro has survived the 5-day cameo appearance record.
doris
I still don't understand why the Caray audience seems to prefer Fuego to Guapos 5 to 1. Can anyone who prefers Fuego and has tried Guapos explain?
You've given me some food for thought. Fuego de Rosca, especially, I didn't think about it that way. Valuable input. And I know what you mean about the pretentious ones. A Peruvian in my class once proudly announced that in their schools, they learn to speak Spanish like they speak in Spain. I couldn't help wondering, what's wrong with sounding like you're from Peru?
As for Guapos - I've watched it a few times, and sometimes I just leave it on between QE and FELS, but I was never able to get into it. It seems cute and funny, but I definitely prefer older characters (or at least older actors).
I also like to see as much non-romance subplot as possible; strange as it may seem, I usually find the relationships to be the least interesting part. As far as I can tell - and I realize I could be wrong - Guapos is mostly about the relationships. There's still lots of intrigue and cleverness, but if you added a cooking school, or an agave plantation, or some pirates, that'd work out a lot better for me.
What I'd really like to see: a telenovela about nerds working at a software company. Second choice: a traveling circus!
KFuego, huge kudos for recapping two nights in a row! You rock amiga.
jb
I will be glad to recap Fuego as I almost felt guilty, well not really, but the Junior League was just too easy to attack, I mean they could be excused for some of their stupid decisions, unlike Fuego in which NO ONE can be forgiven for anything. I would forgive Pablito & Marachi, but so far they are the brightest. In fact I think Marachi maybe the mysterious Jefe.
Hey don't think they watch this in Mexico and view it like some snarky British Comedy. The guy that does this one, is always over the top, his are always full of religious imagery, & you can bet the good folks will pray to the Virgincita til their throats hemmorage, cry til their eyes hemmorage and the Evil folks will do things the Nazi's would slap there forheads and say "Now that's what I'm talkin about". That just on a fun basis is really way more fun that the good people are having. This will continue until the last minute.
What's interesting here is that I wouldn't bother watching soap operas in English. My hubby is high educated, and he loves "Lost." What's so different from that than a TN? Most television dramas, regardless of the language, are not necessarily productive for overall personal improvement, are they? So, in my case, I re-learn the Spanish that learned so well 40 years ago. Now I can use it conversationally with parent of children who attend my school, no kidding. And I translate letters home to the parents into Spanish (with proofreading from a Latina colleague who is a gem to do it).
When I tell my Hispanic friends I watch TNs, I get raised eyebrows. Still, it works well for refreshing my Spanish and I have enough of an ADD personality that a class where I have to sit and do it with someone else's requirements won't work as well. My Hispanic friends are pleased at my ability to understand and respond, at any rate!
Sorry for rambling, but I think when you raised the topic, it was fine. I have noticed a disdain from some of my Hispanic friends but others confess they love the TNs. It is truly a cultural phenomenon, as is "Lost" or any other series.
Jeanne
The incident you described with the person in your class is pretty much exactly the phenomenon I had in mind. A good example of precisely that sentiment.
Sadly, nearly all novelas themselves pretty much reinforce aspects of this, starring mostly European decent actors in lead roles. The more indigenous looking folks (a representation of the majority of Mexican citizens) are disproportionately cast as the servants, "lower" class folks etc. I mean, in Enemiga you have a blond haired blue eyed fair skinned eastern European decent daughter supposedly of two much darker eyed, olive skinned, black haired parents. And the "best" destinations often seem to be Spain, or Europe or the US. It's worth acknowledging the glamorization.
I've also encountered very healthy pride, though.
Anyway, not intending to get too complex I wanted at least to throw out that perspective. :)
I just finished watching Tontas on the net. Several examples of people proudly Mexican. I suspect Camil had something to do with that. He lets it be known that he is proudly Mexican (interesting since he is of Egyptian and Brazilian descent). At one point his character tells off his evil ex-wife. She abandoned her baby daughter to pursue her career in NY, and now she wants to take that daughter back to NY for a "better" education. Camil's character says, "Mexico is my country. I live here, I work here, my daughter will live here. Period.
Ditto here in this house and I tease my DH about his "Lost" addiction and how he can never, ever, make fun of me and my telenovelas, ever again. I offer him my Telenovela Beanie Hat while he watches every episode (I do not watch it...telenovelas are enough for me Thank You Very Much -giggle-) and he often wears it! LOL
Re: Guapos I think the young protagonists are why I could not get hooked into it, just like QE. Ouch. My age is showing. ;-) When I do watch, I'm more interested in Luci, Damien & Connie. Luci's story line is the most interesting, IMO. I'm hoping she stays on the right path.
doris
(Beckster, we know you have been lending your recapping services under sufferance, and we thank you for it.)
What's valuable to me is I learn new expressions in every one....yes, even Fuego.
The other night on Fuego, Grandpa said" Ah ya nos cayó el chahuistle" and naturally "chahuistle" was not in my Oxford dictionary, but when I looked it up on the internet landed on an interesting page analysing the provenance of this nahuatl expression and how it morphed from describing a fungus that attacks corn (but not the same "huitlacoche" that was discussed on QE) to meaning...ah now calamity has befallen us.
All three telenovelas have enriched my vocabulary and entertained me immensely. But taking a break from them time to time is good too.
NinaK, I'm sorry Guapos is underappreciated and under-discussed, but if you get Tontos with Jaime Camill, I'm going to be pea-green with envy!...(and watching faithfully)
I often see the very end of Guapos, or at least the credits and at first I thought it was like Blithe Spirit or something because as the young girl is walking up to all of the characters in the credits they don't look at her. I thought maybe she was a ghost!
I really enjoyed the discussion about who watches and why and want to contribute a point or two. My experience in Central America has been that educated people sneer at novelas but many don't watch because they aren't at home during the day or early evening. However, they do know what shows are on, know who the stars are, etc. My students knew lots about the novela world (my unbelievably hard and not always very productive experiences teaching is Spanish is a whole separate post). It's people who are around the house who tend to watch, often with one eye on the screen. This is just the way that my mother watched the Guiding Light when we were kids (and soaps were 15 minutes!) She ironed and kept track of the story all at once. The program HOY from Mexico, broadcast throughout the region, appeals to a slightly more educated, middle class audience and recaps the big novelas every day --someone out there cares or they wouldn't take up audience time with the recaps. Their recaps of Destalando Amor, which was immensely popular in Mexico, were as much fun as the show sometimes.
My point, I guess, is that with all popular entertainment there's more viewing and accessing that people own up to. Beware of anyone who says they never watch television -- they are probably fooling themselves about how much they do watch. I personally love TV and suffered as much as the kids when we banned it in the evenings so they could get their homework done!
All that said, I do love Jaime's comment. The situation is even more grave for Central American countries that get almost exclusively Mexican fare, including a lot of variety shows, and old US shows badly dubbed. A relatively good novela can be gold for those viewers.
La Paloma
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