Friday, January 09, 2009
Las Tontas #25 - Thurs 1/8/09 - Meño's better, Gregoria's bitter and Alicia has an afternoon delight (or fright) then a fight
Last night Kris left us with the image of Alicia sitting outside Meño's house hiding behind her sunglasses and looking obvious in her shiny red car. She's hoping to catch her mama in the lie of not returning to the DF. Uh oh, Candy and Chava come outside chattering away but Alicia gets a phone call and is distracted. Our spy talks VERY LOUDLY, Candy hears her and dashes inside. Whew! Thank goodness Al is as bad a spy as she is a sister. Meño sees Al and Al sees him seeing her.
Jaime wants Isabel to tell Santiago about their relationship, they don't have a lot of time, they're grownups and it's not like they'll have an accidental pregnancy or anything. This comment offends Isabel's finer sensibilities and she tells him all he thinks about is the bed. She doesn't want to be rushed. She pisses him off and he splits. Oops, their first spat. Donato comforts her. Interesting.
Alicia rudely busts bust-first into Meño's colorful house. She knows he's hiding someone, where is her mama? Gregoria enters and informs Al that she's there because she needed help and Meño is giving it.
Meanwhile Candy and Chava hide under his bed. He doesn't understand why they're hiding but he grabs his box of lies for Candy and tells her she needs it to keep her lie. This kid's not dumb.
Gregoria puts on a great show of liking Meño, will that be one sugar or two dear brother? Alicia's skeptical but Gregoria says she was never bothered by Meño's "illness" (gag me) it was her husband who minded. Alicia stomps upstairs and for some reason they don't seem concerned. Aren't they worried about her finding Candy? Or maybe they are downstairs and she's stomping up to the door? Clearly I'm architecturally challenged.
Meanwhile Patricio visits Beto and Soledad tells him Jorge wants to be Beto's papa. Pato talks sweetly to Beto and asks him to give him a chance to be a papa to him.
The commercial fade out is of Pato happily holding both his sons.
Over at the institute Chayo is helping a client with her makeup. Apparently she's one of the clients that they called out of Santiago's stolen agenda. After the client leaves Chayo becomes bored waiting for her next client. She sits behind two big chrome globes that are right in front of her bubis and her mind wanders to her chest. She gives herself a pep talk which Candy overhears, she'll never betray Candy! Then she holds the globes in front of her chest and sighs.
Another frenetic operation while the Plastic Doctor tries to warn Eduardo that Chayo will eventually show up for a bubi operation. This disconcerts Eduardo who changes the conversation to something more comfortable. They argue about futbol.
Back at Meño's house Chava wants to know who is this woman who stays at their house? They finally tell him the truth, she's his abuela, Candy's mom. He takes this news very well, "Super, give me a hug!" Meño mutters that he hopes the kid doesn't listen to her heart.
It must be meet-the-grandparents-day. Pato takes Beto for a walk and guess who's there, evil grandma and grandpa. OK, Beto's also very happy to meet his abuelos and so far they behave themselves but I'm not holding my breath. Beto assumes they are his mom's parents. The grownups have some 'splaining to do.
Chayo comes home to her rude husband Eduardo who tells her he's eating chilaquiles and toast again and he's tired of the situation. Not tired enough to learn how to cook something else or open a can of soup I see. She tells him she's tired of their relationship. So there!
Over at Club Abandonados it appears they're watching Baywatch with gusto. Zamora has joined them and is AWOL from the restaurant. Raul pulls Santi aside and advises him to leave Candy in peace. The abandonados creep up the better to hear. Raul instructs Santi to remain dedicated to his sister. He puts his hands on his hips indicating he means business.
Marissa and Barbara are enjoying some girl talk and a little tequila. Barb tells Marissa that Candy and Santi were in Candy's office "for hours" and after Santi left Candy was totally enthusiastic and excited. Marissa tells Barb that from now on she wants Barb to tell her everything that goes on between her boyfriend and Candy. Barb pretends to be offended to be Marissa's spy but then admits she loves nothing better than intrigue and gossip. They throw back a shot of tequila to seal the deal.
Gregoria makes pancakes for Chava and he keeps staring at her because he's so happy to have an abuela. She tells him if he crosses his eyes he'll see more than one of her and she tries to teach him. When I was a kid my grandma told me if I crossed my eyes they'd stay that way forever.
Over at the apartment of discontent Alicia and Pato are having an acidic breakfast. She tells him she knows it sounds immature but she feels displaced by his son. He agrees, no not that she's displaced but that she sounds immature. He rubs salt in the wound by informing her he introduced Beto to his parents. She's pissed because he doesn't introduce Beto to her, his wife. He tells her she has nothing to do with this business. Nice.
At the institute clueless Candy's in the process of trying to dress Cece in a more feminine shirt when Chayo rushes in to tell her that Marissa's crying in the bathroom. While Chayo forces a makeover on Cece Candy runs to Marissa.
A sobbing Marissa tells Candy she's crying because of the deal about her not being able to have kids, and now the fibroids, she's afraid... Candy tells her it'll be all right, they'll go together to hear what the doctor has to say and in the meantime Marissa needs lots of cuddles. (Apapachar = to cuddle) They hug and Marissa makes another one of her over-the-shoulder creepy faces. Yikes, that face scared the hell out of me.
Good Gawd, a sad and dreary Patricio re-reads the old article "A Wedding Scandal" featuring Candy in her skivvies and then moons over her eulogy. He gets a distracting phone call from Soledad I think and they discuss his parents wanting to take Beto on vacation. Alicia swoops in, sees his choice of reading material, and storms out.
Candy walks Marissa into the lobby and assures her her dreams aren't over, she can still have kids, maybe not in her belly but she can adopt. She's giving Marissa a hug when Santi arrives and doesn't quite know what to make of this scene. Candy beckons him over and hisses "hug us strongly!" She wriggles out of the hug and leaves him hugging Marissa and looking baffled. Whooshing sounds and suddenly she runs over and tears him out of Marissa's arms, "I don't want to hurt you Marissa but he's mine" and starts making out with him. Marissa pulls him back "no he's mine" and forces him to kiss her. We whoosh back out of Candy's fantasy and she shakes her head and exclaims "ya ya I'm going crazy, crazy! Santiago and Marissa look at her all "que the hell?"
Over at the institute Chayo seems a bit out of sorts and when Barb accuses her of hoarding their clients she leaves in a snit. The ladies agree she's nervous and could use a little therapy.
Alicia sexily sashays down some stairs and approaches a man. My my, it's the bitter and recently-divorced abandonado (darn, can't remember his name) who says he was surprised and thrilled to get her call. Al tells him she's married but not happily and she hopes he's freed up for the next couple of hours. I wonder if she had anything to do with his ruined marriage? It ended because he had an affair, right?
Chayo tells her current client that all she needs is a little treatment for her dry hair, otherwise she looks great. Client says she owes it all her great plastic surgeon who happens to be in the same building. He added a couple of sizes to her bust, took off a couple from her waist. Chayo is impactada, did the surgery change her life? Client admits that men don't throw themselves at her feet like she'd hoped but when she looks in the mirror she feels like Miss Universe. Chayo looks at her bustline and whimpers.
Alicia is in the bitter abandonado's apartment and she recall's Pato's unfeeling words about her infantile behavior. She energetically boinks the smarmy dude. Take that Patricio!
Meño finds Gregoria poking around his room. Que horror, he shrieks, hands off! She doesn't like his feminine bedspread, 70's decor and all his creams. He tells her to leave him alone and if she doesn't like it leave! He accuses her of separating him from his brother and their kids. She said he separated himself when, when... He finishes her thought, "when I loved another man." She can barely stand to hear it. She insists love is between a man and a woman, he insults God. They have the typical argument about this subject which she concludes by saying he's lost and she's going to pray for him. This cracks him up and he says she's afraid because he's a better person than her bitter old self. He knew love but her, no. His bro married her because she was pregnant and he stayed with her because he loved his daughters. Gregoria's response is she refuses to leave the house because she won't lose her daughter and grandkid again, she won't leave until Candy kicks her out! She can be a right bitch, that one.
Commercial for the upcoming Pobre Millionaria featuring Chef Hawt wearing very little and some ugly duckling type wearing glasses and being impactada and slack-jawed in every shot.
Next up is a random scene with Zamora setting up a graft scam against Toño by convincing Toño to pay him a monthly fee to be part of the Waiter's Protection Syndicate. Is this another Frijolito rip-off?
At the institute Candy gets image consultant lessons from an effeminate lisping man who I suspect is someone famous but I have no idea who he is. His state-of-the-art advice includes walking straight with a book on one's head. Candy finds this challenging and she's impressed and ready to start training with him immediately.
Meño glumly strolls the neighborhood and longingly watches a man and his young son spending time together. He finds himself at the church and tells God he won't ask forgiveness for choosing his own path and for being happy, then he recites the "God grant me the serenity..." prayer concluding with "and please don't let me hurt my son." OK, I'll admit I was quite moved by this scene not to mention that this guy is one of my favorite characters.
Santiago and Eduardo are in the bookstore looking for a book that will help Santiago talk to Lucia about the birds and the bees. Eduardo finds one called "Sex and Adolescents". Santi is indignant, Lucia is NOT having sex. A pretty, young, and highly amused employee offers a book specifically for adolescents before they have sex. Santi is even more indignant, Lucia isn't going to have sex with anyone! Gasp, the book has photos, drawings, whatever they are they're offensive. The employee laughs at this pair of hopeless old farts who are insulted by her comment but still manage to enjoy the book's drawings like a couple of schoolyard adolescents.
Al gets home from her afternoon delight, picks a fight with Patricio who's on his way back to work and calls herself stupid.
Beto and Chava discover they both met abuelos that day. They discuss why abuelos usually come in pairs and Chava asks if a tio abuelo is an abuelo. Beto says an abuelo abuelo no, but a half abuelo yes. Thus this young pair begin to comprehend the intricacies of the family tree.
Pato's at work half-heartedly going through his mail. Bills, bills and more bills...but wait, there's an envelope. He removes a card with feminine writing. "I want to see you" it says. He sniffs it and recognizes the perfume. The only person who wears the same perfume he gave Candy is Soledad. He smiles and says if Sole wants war that's what he'll give her.
The ladies of the institute are taking a tootsie pop break and discussing having men in their lives. There's a slightly awkward moment when they ask Cece if she's got a boyfriend but, used to fielding this query, Cece deftly responds no and she's happy with her life the way it is.
Meño interrupts and demands to speak to Candy immediately...alone.
Meño asks Candy to please throw her mom out of the house! The eavesdropping ladies are impactadas and gasp. Meño snarls at them and they scurry away.
Tomorrow: Santi and Candy, he said she said he said she said, kiss kiss kiss. Marissa arrives, will she walk in on them? Alicia has the brilliant idea of dressing like Candy in her wedding dress and seducing Patricio.
Jaime wants Isabel to tell Santiago about their relationship, they don't have a lot of time, they're grownups and it's not like they'll have an accidental pregnancy or anything. This comment offends Isabel's finer sensibilities and she tells him all he thinks about is the bed. She doesn't want to be rushed. She pisses him off and he splits. Oops, their first spat. Donato comforts her. Interesting.
Alicia rudely busts bust-first into Meño's colorful house. She knows he's hiding someone, where is her mama? Gregoria enters and informs Al that she's there because she needed help and Meño is giving it.
Meanwhile Candy and Chava hide under his bed. He doesn't understand why they're hiding but he grabs his box of lies for Candy and tells her she needs it to keep her lie. This kid's not dumb.
Gregoria puts on a great show of liking Meño, will that be one sugar or two dear brother? Alicia's skeptical but Gregoria says she was never bothered by Meño's "illness" (gag me) it was her husband who minded. Alicia stomps upstairs and for some reason they don't seem concerned. Aren't they worried about her finding Candy? Or maybe they are downstairs and she's stomping up to the door? Clearly I'm architecturally challenged.
Meanwhile Patricio visits Beto and Soledad tells him Jorge wants to be Beto's papa. Pato talks sweetly to Beto and asks him to give him a chance to be a papa to him.
The commercial fade out is of Pato happily holding both his sons.
Over at the institute Chayo is helping a client with her makeup. Apparently she's one of the clients that they called out of Santiago's stolen agenda. After the client leaves Chayo becomes bored waiting for her next client. She sits behind two big chrome globes that are right in front of her bubis and her mind wanders to her chest. She gives herself a pep talk which Candy overhears, she'll never betray Candy! Then she holds the globes in front of her chest and sighs.
Another frenetic operation while the Plastic Doctor tries to warn Eduardo that Chayo will eventually show up for a bubi operation. This disconcerts Eduardo who changes the conversation to something more comfortable. They argue about futbol.
Back at Meño's house Chava wants to know who is this woman who stays at their house? They finally tell him the truth, she's his abuela, Candy's mom. He takes this news very well, "Super, give me a hug!" Meño mutters that he hopes the kid doesn't listen to her heart.
It must be meet-the-grandparents-day. Pato takes Beto for a walk and guess who's there, evil grandma and grandpa. OK, Beto's also very happy to meet his abuelos and so far they behave themselves but I'm not holding my breath. Beto assumes they are his mom's parents. The grownups have some 'splaining to do.
Chayo comes home to her rude husband Eduardo who tells her he's eating chilaquiles and toast again and he's tired of the situation. Not tired enough to learn how to cook something else or open a can of soup I see. She tells him she's tired of their relationship. So there!
Over at Club Abandonados it appears they're watching Baywatch with gusto. Zamora has joined them and is AWOL from the restaurant. Raul pulls Santi aside and advises him to leave Candy in peace. The abandonados creep up the better to hear. Raul instructs Santi to remain dedicated to his sister. He puts his hands on his hips indicating he means business.
Marissa and Barbara are enjoying some girl talk and a little tequila. Barb tells Marissa that Candy and Santi were in Candy's office "for hours" and after Santi left Candy was totally enthusiastic and excited. Marissa tells Barb that from now on she wants Barb to tell her everything that goes on between her boyfriend and Candy. Barb pretends to be offended to be Marissa's spy but then admits she loves nothing better than intrigue and gossip. They throw back a shot of tequila to seal the deal.
Gregoria makes pancakes for Chava and he keeps staring at her because he's so happy to have an abuela. She tells him if he crosses his eyes he'll see more than one of her and she tries to teach him. When I was a kid my grandma told me if I crossed my eyes they'd stay that way forever.
Over at the apartment of discontent Alicia and Pato are having an acidic breakfast. She tells him she knows it sounds immature but she feels displaced by his son. He agrees, no not that she's displaced but that she sounds immature. He rubs salt in the wound by informing her he introduced Beto to his parents. She's pissed because he doesn't introduce Beto to her, his wife. He tells her she has nothing to do with this business. Nice.
At the institute clueless Candy's in the process of trying to dress Cece in a more feminine shirt when Chayo rushes in to tell her that Marissa's crying in the bathroom. While Chayo forces a makeover on Cece Candy runs to Marissa.
A sobbing Marissa tells Candy she's crying because of the deal about her not being able to have kids, and now the fibroids, she's afraid... Candy tells her it'll be all right, they'll go together to hear what the doctor has to say and in the meantime Marissa needs lots of cuddles. (Apapachar = to cuddle) They hug and Marissa makes another one of her over-the-shoulder creepy faces. Yikes, that face scared the hell out of me.
Good Gawd, a sad and dreary Patricio re-reads the old article "A Wedding Scandal" featuring Candy in her skivvies and then moons over her eulogy. He gets a distracting phone call from Soledad I think and they discuss his parents wanting to take Beto on vacation. Alicia swoops in, sees his choice of reading material, and storms out.
Candy walks Marissa into the lobby and assures her her dreams aren't over, she can still have kids, maybe not in her belly but she can adopt. She's giving Marissa a hug when Santi arrives and doesn't quite know what to make of this scene. Candy beckons him over and hisses "hug us strongly!" She wriggles out of the hug and leaves him hugging Marissa and looking baffled. Whooshing sounds and suddenly she runs over and tears him out of Marissa's arms, "I don't want to hurt you Marissa but he's mine" and starts making out with him. Marissa pulls him back "no he's mine" and forces him to kiss her. We whoosh back out of Candy's fantasy and she shakes her head and exclaims "ya ya I'm going crazy, crazy! Santiago and Marissa look at her all "que the hell?"
Over at the institute Chayo seems a bit out of sorts and when Barb accuses her of hoarding their clients she leaves in a snit. The ladies agree she's nervous and could use a little therapy.
Alicia sexily sashays down some stairs and approaches a man. My my, it's the bitter and recently-divorced abandonado (darn, can't remember his name) who says he was surprised and thrilled to get her call. Al tells him she's married but not happily and she hopes he's freed up for the next couple of hours. I wonder if she had anything to do with his ruined marriage? It ended because he had an affair, right?
Chayo tells her current client that all she needs is a little treatment for her dry hair, otherwise she looks great. Client says she owes it all her great plastic surgeon who happens to be in the same building. He added a couple of sizes to her bust, took off a couple from her waist. Chayo is impactada, did the surgery change her life? Client admits that men don't throw themselves at her feet like she'd hoped but when she looks in the mirror she feels like Miss Universe. Chayo looks at her bustline and whimpers.
Alicia is in the bitter abandonado's apartment and she recall's Pato's unfeeling words about her infantile behavior. She energetically boinks the smarmy dude. Take that Patricio!
Meño finds Gregoria poking around his room. Que horror, he shrieks, hands off! She doesn't like his feminine bedspread, 70's decor and all his creams. He tells her to leave him alone and if she doesn't like it leave! He accuses her of separating him from his brother and their kids. She said he separated himself when, when... He finishes her thought, "when I loved another man." She can barely stand to hear it. She insists love is between a man and a woman, he insults God. They have the typical argument about this subject which she concludes by saying he's lost and she's going to pray for him. This cracks him up and he says she's afraid because he's a better person than her bitter old self. He knew love but her, no. His bro married her because she was pregnant and he stayed with her because he loved his daughters. Gregoria's response is she refuses to leave the house because she won't lose her daughter and grandkid again, she won't leave until Candy kicks her out! She can be a right bitch, that one.
Commercial for the upcoming Pobre Millionaria featuring Chef Hawt wearing very little and some ugly duckling type wearing glasses and being impactada and slack-jawed in every shot.
Next up is a random scene with Zamora setting up a graft scam against Toño by convincing Toño to pay him a monthly fee to be part of the Waiter's Protection Syndicate. Is this another Frijolito rip-off?
At the institute Candy gets image consultant lessons from an effeminate lisping man who I suspect is someone famous but I have no idea who he is. His state-of-the-art advice includes walking straight with a book on one's head. Candy finds this challenging and she's impressed and ready to start training with him immediately.
Meño glumly strolls the neighborhood and longingly watches a man and his young son spending time together. He finds himself at the church and tells God he won't ask forgiveness for choosing his own path and for being happy, then he recites the "God grant me the serenity..." prayer concluding with "and please don't let me hurt my son." OK, I'll admit I was quite moved by this scene not to mention that this guy is one of my favorite characters.
Santiago and Eduardo are in the bookstore looking for a book that will help Santiago talk to Lucia about the birds and the bees. Eduardo finds one called "Sex and Adolescents". Santi is indignant, Lucia is NOT having sex. A pretty, young, and highly amused employee offers a book specifically for adolescents before they have sex. Santi is even more indignant, Lucia isn't going to have sex with anyone! Gasp, the book has photos, drawings, whatever they are they're offensive. The employee laughs at this pair of hopeless old farts who are insulted by her comment but still manage to enjoy the book's drawings like a couple of schoolyard adolescents.
Al gets home from her afternoon delight, picks a fight with Patricio who's on his way back to work and calls herself stupid.
Beto and Chava discover they both met abuelos that day. They discuss why abuelos usually come in pairs and Chava asks if a tio abuelo is an abuelo. Beto says an abuelo abuelo no, but a half abuelo yes. Thus this young pair begin to comprehend the intricacies of the family tree.
Pato's at work half-heartedly going through his mail. Bills, bills and more bills...but wait, there's an envelope. He removes a card with feminine writing. "I want to see you" it says. He sniffs it and recognizes the perfume. The only person who wears the same perfume he gave Candy is Soledad. He smiles and says if Sole wants war that's what he'll give her.
The ladies of the institute are taking a tootsie pop break and discussing having men in their lives. There's a slightly awkward moment when they ask Cece if she's got a boyfriend but, used to fielding this query, Cece deftly responds no and she's happy with her life the way it is.
Meño interrupts and demands to speak to Candy immediately...alone.
Meño asks Candy to please throw her mom out of the house! The eavesdropping ladies are impactadas and gasp. Meño snarls at them and they scurry away.
Tomorrow: Santi and Candy, he said she said he said she said, kiss kiss kiss. Marissa arrives, will she walk in on them? Alicia has the brilliant idea of dressing like Candy in her wedding dress and seducing Patricio.
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Sylvia: Thank you for the fantastic recap. A lot happened last night - reunions, deceptions, and you captured the details perfectly.
Can't believe ANOTHER near miss meeting of Candy and Alicia!
I was so happy Chava and Beto found their abuelos. Granted, they may not be the ideal grandparents but believe they love their grandsons. Of course, the kids are so adorable, how could they not??
What a shame Gregoria can't appreciate Meno for the wonderful person he is. "...Gregoria says she was never bothered by Meño's "illness" (gag me)." Completely agree.
I also loved the scene of Meno in church - what a great character.
I'm embarrassed to say I didn't recognize the man that Alicia slept with. I must have been asleep at the wheel at some point.
Happy Candy is steering Marissa toward adoption. Diana in MA
Can't believe ANOTHER near miss meeting of Candy and Alicia!
I was so happy Chava and Beto found their abuelos. Granted, they may not be the ideal grandparents but believe they love their grandsons. Of course, the kids are so adorable, how could they not??
What a shame Gregoria can't appreciate Meno for the wonderful person he is. "...Gregoria says she was never bothered by Meño's "illness" (gag me)." Completely agree.
I also loved the scene of Meno in church - what a great character.
I'm embarrassed to say I didn't recognize the man that Alicia slept with. I must have been asleep at the wheel at some point.
Happy Candy is steering Marissa toward adoption. Diana in MA
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: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 7:24:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 7:24:00 AM EST
Hey Miss Sylvia...enjoyed everything about your recap, even the ads! Great description of the upcoming ads for the show with our Chef Hawt. I miss him already. And I loved the shot of Patricio hugging his two sons. He's winning me over....sorry Decie Girl I know you hate his guts.
It's looking more and more like Alicia's former career was high-priced call girl. Mama mia..."dancing in the sheets" I guess.
And I loved your "apartment of discontent". I am always struck by the vastness and coldness of the place, the anonymity of the decor. The hard surfaces etc. A perfect metaphor for the relationship.
Meño's apartment, while a bit too colorful for my taste, is still warm, friendly and whimsical. Another metaphor, obviously.
Were the Abandonados watching a porn flic or was it Baywatch? I thought with the running down the beach and the red bathing suits and all that it was the hoary old TV series. Evidently it was almost as popular with the guys as the NFL. I think there was even a recurring joke on Friends about watching it. And it seems like these writers like to put in a lot of "in" jokes involving American programs.
Or..I could be wrong. It's happened before!
It's looking more and more like Alicia's former career was high-priced call girl. Mama mia..."dancing in the sheets" I guess.
And I loved your "apartment of discontent". I am always struck by the vastness and coldness of the place, the anonymity of the decor. The hard surfaces etc. A perfect metaphor for the relationship.
Meño's apartment, while a bit too colorful for my taste, is still warm, friendly and whimsical. Another metaphor, obviously.
Were the Abandonados watching a porn flic or was it Baywatch? I thought with the running down the beach and the red bathing suits and all that it was the hoary old TV series. Evidently it was almost as popular with the guys as the NFL. I think there was even a recurring joke on Friends about watching it. And it seems like these writers like to put in a lot of "in" jokes involving American programs.
Or..I could be wrong. It's happened before!
Nice, smooth, succinct recap, what a pro! I like your style! I love Patricio with his son(s). His only real moments of humanity, the rest of the time he's dead. Could be good acting or maybe he likes the kids better than he likes any of the other actors. Tio is being allowed to show a realer gay character than we usually get in these shows. I hope Candy gets less brittle. Santiago is soooooooo mmm.
I may have been the original "linkmeister," but that was when I was doing Friday nights and wasn't in such a hurry to get to bed! I've never been a quick recapper, and it's worse when I start researching things - I get badly sidetracked and lose a lot of time.
I'm more than thrilled that Kris, Paula, and others have since picked up the habit and expanded on it!
I'm more than thrilled that Kris, Paula, and others have since picked up the habit and expanded on it!
Oh my, JudyB you are so right. The abandonados were watching Baywatch! I just fixed it. I fear I wasn't paying attention very well when I recapped. Thanks amiga!! But isn't it funny that I thought they were watching porn? Like, what's the diff and all? (And I almost wrote Baysnatch because that's what my friends and I always call it, shame on us.)
Yes, Meno's character is very real. I was wondering why he didn't go off on Gregoria after her rather viscious diatribe against him. I guess he figured it was futile to argue with such illogic so he's decided to enlist Candy's aid. I'm very curious to see how Candy will handle her mom. Such a potentially mixed emotion time bomb.
Yes, Meno's character is very real. I was wondering why he didn't go off on Gregoria after her rather viscious diatribe against him. I guess he figured it was futile to argue with such illogic so he's decided to enlist Candy's aid. I'm very curious to see how Candy will handle her mom. Such a potentially mixed emotion time bomb.
Thanks, Cap'n Sylvia for your usual excellent recap. I am still trying to care about thesae people, but I do love to hang with you guys, so I check in here every day. ~~~Susanlynn, suffering from cabin fever and waiting for the snow
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 10:54:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 10:54:00 AM EST
Mike and I were at his mother's house, helping her celebrate her 90th birthday, so we missed most of this episode. Thanks, Sylvia for a nicely detailed recap.
The scene with Meno in the church was beautifully done, very touching. Meno is about the only character on this show that I really like, other than the cute (lied-to) kiddies. I like Marissa also. OK, she has a few faults, don't we all? Definitely less faults than Candy. I wanted to get out my iron skillet when she mistreated Lulu, my other favorite character, so badly!
The names of some of the characters are a bit confusing to me: Rocio and Chayo are female but their names end in 'o' and Chava and Zamora are male. Does this happen often?
The scene with Meno in the church was beautifully done, very touching. Meno is about the only character on this show that I really like, other than the cute (lied-to) kiddies. I like Marissa also. OK, she has a few faults, don't we all? Definitely less faults than Candy. I wanted to get out my iron skillet when she mistreated Lulu, my other favorite character, so badly!
The names of some of the characters are a bit confusing to me: Rocio and Chayo are female but their names end in 'o' and Chava and Zamora are male. Does this happen often?
Well, I almost said that too...what's the difference between Baywatch and porn? And I love YOUR name for it!...too funny.
Forgot to tell you, also, that I laughed when you mentioned what your granny said to you about crossing your eyes. Heard the same thing from my mom. (her mother had already passed away.)
My other grandmother was a big devotee of Fletcherism and made me chew each bite 5o to 100 times if I was eating nuts or anything like that. Oh, those grannies!
Forgot to tell you, also, that I laughed when you mentioned what your granny said to you about crossing your eyes. Heard the same thing from my mom. (her mother had already passed away.)
My other grandmother was a big devotee of Fletcherism and made me chew each bite 5o to 100 times if I was eating nuts or anything like that. Oh, those grannies!
O O ...Baysnatch....Sylvia...you scamp *
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 10:57:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 10:57:00 AM EST
I can't believe I hadn't heard that Baysnatch gag before--it's such an obvious choice, once you hear it. Very funny! It's like those punny porn titles--e.g., Saving Ryan's Privates.
Sylvia, you've doubtless incurred the Wrath of Cindybin!
Off the wall comment du jour: does anyone else think the actress playing Candy kinda looks like Elena Verdugo? She played the nurse in the old series "Marcus Welby."
Susanlynn, I agree: it's real hard to care about any of these critters and I'm really wondering if this TN has any kind of a point to it.
Off the wall comment du jour: does anyone else think the actress playing Candy kinda looks like Elena Verdugo? She played the nurse in the old series "Marcus Welby."
Susanlynn, I agree: it's real hard to care about any of these critters and I'm really wondering if this TN has any kind of a point to it.
My grandma too. That fact must be in the grandma instruction manual. I was initially disappointed in Alicia's little get-together with slimy-guy, but then I remembered, she's a slut. I guess that we needn't fret over the viability of that marriage. I still think that Alicia is DDG. Forgive me. Candy really should get a larger box for her lies. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 11:25:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 11:25:00 AM EST
Candy is WAY prettier than Elena Verdugo! About 20 years younger too!!
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 11:57:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 11:57:00 AM EST
I think Alicia's tryst with Hector had an ulterior motive. It was directly after she witnessed her husband mooning over Candy yet again, plus blowing her off about Soledad. She's desparately in love with Pat, in the fullest sense of desparate.
I think she wanted either:
A. Revenge - you made me suffer, and now I made you suffer. So stop doing it to me, okay? or
B. A wake-up call - if you don't give me more attention, I'll cheat on you. or maybe
C. Jealousy. When Pat realized she was with someone else, he'd get jealous and treasure her.
I think she would have told him, but he didn't even stay around long enough for her to finish a sentence. He treats her like some seatmate on the subway.
I like the running gag about Eva, their maid, whom we never have seen. They say things like,
"She never does anything around here"
"Where's Eva? I haven't seen her yet today."
"Why doesn't Eva answer the door? What does she do all day?"
"Eva's not here today."
I think she wanted either:
A. Revenge - you made me suffer, and now I made you suffer. So stop doing it to me, okay? or
B. A wake-up call - if you don't give me more attention, I'll cheat on you. or maybe
C. Jealousy. When Pat realized she was with someone else, he'd get jealous and treasure her.
I think she would have told him, but he didn't even stay around long enough for her to finish a sentence. He treats her like some seatmate on the subway.
I like the running gag about Eva, their maid, whom we never have seen. They say things like,
"She never does anything around here"
"Where's Eva? I haven't seen her yet today."
"Why doesn't Eva answer the door? What does she do all day?"
"Eva's not here today."
I, too, thought the guys were watching porn, and was thinking how immature they were. But now that I know it was Baywatch, that's much more mature (not!). Although I do have to admit that when watching the football game last week with my brother, we were talking about how in the future, they'll let you choose which camera angle to watch the game from, and he suggested Cheerleader Cam. I agreed!
I also agree that Meño is one of the few stable, unconfused characters. It's too bad he can't just tell Charly the truth at this point. Hopefully, by the time it comes out, his bond with Charly will be strong enough so that Charly will accept him.
That Bárbara is terrible! She has Cece's secret to hold over her, and now she's going to spy on Candy for Marissa. She's not really promoting the image of a professional psychologist too much (but not as bad as Juan Miguel on Cuidado!).
I'm also wondering if the Institute is making any money. They have about 10 employees, and I have yet to see any client pay for anything. Do they even have a bookkeeper?
I also agree that Meño is one of the few stable, unconfused characters. It's too bad he can't just tell Charly the truth at this point. Hopefully, by the time it comes out, his bond with Charly will be strong enough so that Charly will accept him.
That Bárbara is terrible! She has Cece's secret to hold over her, and now she's going to spy on Candy for Marissa. She's not really promoting the image of a professional psychologist too much (but not as bad as Juan Miguel on Cuidado!).
I'm also wondering if the Institute is making any money. They have about 10 employees, and I have yet to see any client pay for anything. Do they even have a bookkeeper?
Thanks for the recap Sylvia. I've been slowly trying to catch up to the present on this novela. As others have mentioned, some of the characters are hard to like. I think I'm just watching it to see Santi (Jamie Camil) and the kids are adorable.
Another vote for Memo being a more formed gay character then the mincing stereotypes usually seen in novelas. I've liked him from the beginning.
Candy's mother is a stone cold bitch - there is no other word for it. She is all about money and airs. In the beginning Pat's father was right when he said that Candy's family was trash. When Candy found out about Alicia and Pat her parents were all about forget it and get on with the marriage to the rich guy. Her mother had no compassion for her daughter and she sure has none for Memo. I tend to believe she was the one that caused the estrangement with his brother. Alicia certainly takes after her.
On the other hand I think Alicia truly loves Pat although why is beyond me. He is good with the kids but treats her terribly, never listens to her, moons over a "dead" women and rubs it in her face, cheats on her with Soledad for whom he also has no respect.
I know something of what is ahead for Pat because of the episode I saw in Spain but didn't like him then either.
I find it interesting the reference to the ads with Chef Hawt. I'm not getting them here and I'm assuming it is a new novela with Jorge Aravena (who I don't much care for either although he is an actor who is very appreciative of his fans). Is this novela an afternoon one or is that godawful Fels finally going to come to an end?
Candy's mother is a stone cold bitch - there is no other word for it. She is all about money and airs. In the beginning Pat's father was right when he said that Candy's family was trash. When Candy found out about Alicia and Pat her parents were all about forget it and get on with the marriage to the rich guy. Her mother had no compassion for her daughter and she sure has none for Memo. I tend to believe she was the one that caused the estrangement with his brother. Alicia certainly takes after her.
On the other hand I think Alicia truly loves Pat although why is beyond me. He is good with the kids but treats her terribly, never listens to her, moons over a "dead" women and rubs it in her face, cheats on her with Soledad for whom he also has no respect.
I know something of what is ahead for Pat because of the episode I saw in Spain but didn't like him then either.
I find it interesting the reference to the ads with Chef Hawt. I'm not getting them here and I'm assuming it is a new novela with Jorge Aravena (who I don't much care for either although he is an actor who is very appreciative of his fans). Is this novela an afternoon one or is that godawful Fels finally going to come to an end?
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 1:07:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 1:07:00 PM EST
It's an afternoon one, here anyway (the great Midwest). Maybe 2 pm...not sure. You're much further west, aren't you Decie Girl? (I remember when we all thought you were from Washington DC and were totally wrong!)
"Is this novela an afternoon one or is that godawful Fels finally going to come to an end?"
Yes and yes.
It is an afternoon novela.
And FELS is coming to an end. In the 9:00 slot, instead of that piker (by comparison) Chef Hawt, we're getting TBLMOE!!!
Yes and yes.
It is an afternoon novela.
And FELS is coming to an end. In the 9:00 slot, instead of that piker (by comparison) Chef Hawt, we're getting TBLMOE!!!
Last night was a fun episode too! Nice job Cap'n! Soo much stufff to include always. You did great detailed work and fun title. I've been drawing blanks lately on the triple rhymers, can't explain it.
Anyway, there was some side thing that reminded me of you too when I was watching, but I can't remember now. I'll have to take a second look.
ONce again the children are the only reasdonable ones in the bunch. I loved the abuelo assesment...
Anyway, there was some side thing that reminded me of you too when I was watching, but I can't remember now. I'll have to take a second look.
ONce again the children are the only reasdonable ones in the bunch. I loved the abuelo assesment...
Another great recap--funny and helpful with some details I didn't pick up. I understood quite a bit tonight and was pleased. The characters seemed to speak a little slower on this particular episode. However,I missed the detail about Baywatch and thought they were probably watching porn. DId they mention Baywatch or did I just blink when they showed the TV screen?
It is interesting to hear everyone's take on the characters. It gives me a chance to rethink my opinions. However, I still don't care for Patricio. I "almost" reconciled myself to what he did to Candy on the night before their wedding, chalking it up to alcohol. But kissing Alicia right after the ceremony and not even making an effort to stop, weakened his case for me. Then finding out he had a tryst with Soledad just a month before the wedding when he was so in love with Candy. That cinched it for me! Cheating perro! His flirting with Rojiblanca just adds to my opinion of him as one who will always be on the look out for a chance to cheat. I would like to see him condemned to eternity with Alicia. They deserve each other in my opinion. Yes, he is attempting to be a good father, but that's about his only redeeming quality. I don't think he knows the meaning of love and loyalty. If I were Candy I would run muy rapido and quit flirting with the idea of being in love with him.
Geez! What an opinionated comment! Sorry, guys! How did I get so sucked into these make believe characters?
It is interesting to hear everyone's take on the characters. It gives me a chance to rethink my opinions. However, I still don't care for Patricio. I "almost" reconciled myself to what he did to Candy on the night before their wedding, chalking it up to alcohol. But kissing Alicia right after the ceremony and not even making an effort to stop, weakened his case for me. Then finding out he had a tryst with Soledad just a month before the wedding when he was so in love with Candy. That cinched it for me! Cheating perro! His flirting with Rojiblanca just adds to my opinion of him as one who will always be on the look out for a chance to cheat. I would like to see him condemned to eternity with Alicia. They deserve each other in my opinion. Yes, he is attempting to be a good father, but that's about his only redeeming quality. I don't think he knows the meaning of love and loyalty. If I were Candy I would run muy rapido and quit flirting with the idea of being in love with him.
Geez! What an opinionated comment! Sorry, guys! How did I get so sucked into these make believe characters?
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 1:57:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 1:57:00 PM EST
One more thought: Como se dice en espanol, What goes around, comes around?
Alicia, not drunk, cheats her sister by sleeping with drunk Patricio the night before the wedding. Sober Patricio cheats on Alicia with Soledad and in Cyberspace with Rojiblanca. Alicia cheats on Patricio with drinking (and maybe drunk) Hector(?)
Like I said, Alicia and Patricio deserve each other...
Alicia, not drunk, cheats her sister by sleeping with drunk Patricio the night before the wedding. Sober Patricio cheats on Alicia with Soledad and in Cyberspace with Rojiblanca. Alicia cheats on Patricio with drinking (and maybe drunk) Hector(?)
Like I said, Alicia and Patricio deserve each other...
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 2:07:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 2:07:00 PM EST
Hi Deb, Opinionated comments are what makes this blog so much fun. So opine away. Yup, it sure is easy to get sucked in. Hey, it's an hour's escape right?
Is that The Best Looking Man On Earth, there, Paula? Close to TO&E or even TDA, my Army friend, but don't think "TBLMOE" is military.
No Deb, you didn't blink....what tipped me off that it was Baywatch was it was a copy of numerous Friends scenes where the guys are watching Baywatch. It was a running joke...and they were saying things about someone running in a red bathing suit etc. and if you remember the show, there was LOTS of running and LOTS of bouncing around in all regions in those tight little suits...so porn or Baywatch...or whatever.
And yes, we all find ourselves ranting on these shows. I really went over the top a couple of times during Querida Enemiga so I fully understand and I imagine lots of others do too. Same place to vent strong opinions. That way we can leave our loved ones in peace.
And yes, we all find ourselves ranting on these shows. I really went over the top a couple of times during Querida Enemiga so I fully understand and I imagine lots of others do too. Same place to vent strong opinions. That way we can leave our loved ones in peace.
I'm lost who or what is TBLMOE. Don't tell me it's Colunga because we defintely part ways on that one.
Yes JudyB I'm am far west and in the deep southwest in Tucson and my sig line is a tribute to my Irish ancestry and the nick name of the county name of my family.
For what it is worth many times the afternoon shows are better than the ones at night. The night shows on Univision are always Mexican while the afternoons are a mix of all novela producing countries so you get to see different faces and talents. It also accounts for why some of us end up with weird part Venezuelan, Peruvian, Cuban, Dominican, and Colombian accents. Some of my all time favorite novelas were daytime ones.
Yes JudyB I'm am far west and in the deep southwest in Tucson and my sig line is a tribute to my Irish ancestry and the nick name of the county name of my family.
For what it is worth many times the afternoon shows are better than the ones at night. The night shows on Univision are always Mexican while the afternoons are a mix of all novela producing countries so you get to see different faces and talents. It also accounts for why some of us end up with weird part Venezuelan, Peruvian, Cuban, Dominican, and Colombian accents. Some of my all time favorite novelas were daytime ones.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 9, 2009 at 2:50:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 9, 2009 at 2:50:00 PM EST
I like that Pat is becoming the swing vote on this board. That should provide some interesting discussions here, much more than our united admiration for Meño, the kids, and don't forget Isabel whom I adore. And Pat's character is complex enough to stand up to examination.
Another point in Pat's column. Talking about money, Pat tried to take Beto's eyes off 'poor vs. rich' and help him to see that other things are more important. He's not money obsessed like his mom, dad, wife, and suegrita.
Deb, about kissing Ali at the wedding. If you watch Candy's memories, yes. But what actually happened was that Ali grabbed him, and he struggled to get away. And the fact that he did Soledad while he was engaged? He was drunk then too. More importantly, Santiago is novio to Mar but he has so many notches in his bedpost, the bed is about to collapse. And now he is engaged to Mar but he still keeps telling Candy that he wants to make love with her. You can't fault Pat without faulting Santi.
I went to the local panadaria yesterday and tasted my first Rosca de Reyes. I got the baby Jesus. So now do I have to make tamales?
Candy's tio, the only one she cares about other than Chava (and herself), BEGS her to evict Suegrita. Candy refuses; Candy can't risk Pat finding out. IOW, I love you tio, I know you're suffering, I know you've done everything for me, but screw you.
Mike, in re: TBLMOE. 'The Best Looking Man On Earth.' Por supuesto que sí! You 'cised it, Compañero!
Another point in Pat's column. Talking about money, Pat tried to take Beto's eyes off 'poor vs. rich' and help him to see that other things are more important. He's not money obsessed like his mom, dad, wife, and suegrita.
Deb, about kissing Ali at the wedding. If you watch Candy's memories, yes. But what actually happened was that Ali grabbed him, and he struggled to get away. And the fact that he did Soledad while he was engaged? He was drunk then too. More importantly, Santiago is novio to Mar but he has so many notches in his bedpost, the bed is about to collapse. And now he is engaged to Mar but he still keeps telling Candy that he wants to make love with her. You can't fault Pat without faulting Santi.
I went to the local panadaria yesterday and tasted my first Rosca de Reyes. I got the baby Jesus. So now do I have to make tamales?
Candy's tio, the only one she cares about other than Chava (and herself), BEGS her to evict Suegrita. Candy refuses; Candy can't risk Pat finding out. IOW, I love you tio, I know you're suffering, I know you've done everything for me, but screw you.
Mike, in re: TBLMOE. 'The Best Looking Man On Earth.' Por supuesto que sí! You 'cised it, Compañero!
Caramba! another controversy. If you don't believe Colunga is the Best Looking Man on Earth, Decie Girl (did you watch Amor Real, Alborada?)...well, yes, you probably did...but if you don't...who is your Hombre Divino. No fair saying it's your husband....who else?
Syliva, thanks for the funny and informative recap!
I'm not too into the romantic storylines in this one, because no one is very sympathetic or likable as a partner. But like most of you I like Meno, the kids, Santiago's mom and Donato. Actually I like Isabel and Donato together, that would be a romantic storyline I would like. Truth be told, what probably keeps me watching other than the opportunity to work on my spanish comprehension is simply the pleasure of watching Jaime Camil. And of course, reading the entertaining recaps and comments here!
I'm not too into the romantic storylines in this one, because no one is very sympathetic or likable as a partner. But like most of you I like Meno, the kids, Santiago's mom and Donato. Actually I like Isabel and Donato together, that would be a romantic storyline I would like. Truth be told, what probably keeps me watching other than the opportunity to work on my spanish comprehension is simply the pleasure of watching Jaime Camil. And of course, reading the entertaining recaps and comments here!
Hey, I agree with Decie Girl on Colunga not being TBLMOE. To me, he's handsome and has a sizzling stare, but somehow he just doesn't really do it for me.
In telanovela world, for me TBLMOE is Eduardo Yanez. He's painfully goodlooking - you know, when you look at someone and go "ouch". Unfortunately he always seems to play not-too-bright, hot-tempered macho guys who cry and scream too much. But he is sooo nice to look at. Notwithstanding, I abandoned FELS after only a few weeks, it was painful to watch and not in a good way! :)
In telanovela world, for me TBLMOE is Eduardo Yanez. He's painfully goodlooking - you know, when you look at someone and go "ouch". Unfortunately he always seems to play not-too-bright, hot-tempered macho guys who cry and scream too much. But he is sooo nice to look at. Notwithstanding, I abandoned FELS after only a few weeks, it was painful to watch and not in a good way! :)
Hi Deb, regarding your question for the Spanish version of "what goes around comes around", hopefully Margarita will help us out. However one dicho comes to my mind: Cría cuervos y te sacaran los ojos (raise crows and they'll peck out your eyes) which is actually more like "you reap what you sow".
Great comments y'all, very thoughtful. I also think Candy looks like Elena Verdugo who was quite a looker in her day. Good call on that one.
Wish I could chat some more but I'm crazy busy at work and I've gotta dash. I'll check back in later.
Great comments y'all, very thoughtful. I also think Candy looks like Elena Verdugo who was quite a looker in her day. Good call on that one.
Wish I could chat some more but I'm crazy busy at work and I've gotta dash. I'll check back in later.
Definitely Chef Hawt. That smile would melt the icing off your cake!!
Camil in profile sometimes looks like one of the Belushi brothers and that is not hawt - sorry sisters...
Camil in profile sometimes looks like one of the Belushi brothers and that is not hawt - sorry sisters...
Emilia...alas, I don't find Camil attractive in this one either. But I was madly in love with him (or, as it turns out...his character) in Fea Mas Bella.
Chef Hawt has a wonderful smile (LOVE the way you described it Emilia) and an excellent torso. Haven't gotten to see the rest of him.
Eduardo Yañez does always play impulsive, not-too-bright guys and looking in his eyes....I fear it may be type-casting. Honestly, I don't see a blaze of intelligence burning there. Same problem with William Levy who appears to be gorgeous all over but again, the eyes...looks like he had to repeat a few grades.
Chef Hawt has a wonderful smile (LOVE the way you described it Emilia) and an excellent torso. Haven't gotten to see the rest of him.
Eduardo Yañez does always play impulsive, not-too-bright guys and looking in his eyes....I fear it may be type-casting. Honestly, I don't see a blaze of intelligence burning there. Same problem with William Levy who appears to be gorgeous all over but again, the eyes...looks like he had to repeat a few grades.
You're right, Paula...I forgot about Gabriel Soto. Another reason QE recappers were rooting for Chef Hawt. Spending a lifetime with Doc Alonso would be one long snooze.
No doubt there was an element of revenge in Alicia's dalliance, but I think the main thing was wanting to have someone's attention. She certainly isn't going to get it from Patricio. She feels invisible around him - though being so narcissistic, she'd probably feel that way around anyone, eventually.
As for Marissa, it would be easier to like her if she would stop making those creepy faces over Candy's shoulder.
As for Marissa, it would be easier to like her if she would stop making those creepy faces over Candy's shoulder.
It's always so interesting, what other people find attractive. Me, well...anyone who reads my Cuidado recaps knows where some of my affections lie, but I also like Chef Hawt...Yañez does absolutely nothing for me, though. I love Colunga but don't know that I'd go so far as to call him the absolute best-looking.
On this show, I don't think Camil is necessarily the best-looking, but I love to watch him because of the way he moves. I think Lanús is more good-looking, but other things about him bug me.
On this show, I don't think Camil is necessarily the best-looking, but I love to watch him because of the way he moves. I think Lanús is more good-looking, but other things about him bug me.
Marissa: I keep thinking of JudyB's comment a couple of days ago about pearly lipstick and mass quantities of eye makeup - back in the '60s. I think Marissa's hiding a nice looking woman under all the coal tar byproducts she smears on her face.
Regarding Gabriel Soto - Remember a while back when we were saying sometimes you like an actor in a telenovela, then you see him on Cristina or Don Francisco and you're not so impressed? I had the opposite experience with Gabriel Soto. He came across as so much more natural and down-to-earth on the talk show.
Eduardo Yanez - He shows more concern for entertaining the crowd and making his shows successful than in impressing critics or becoming the next Olivier.
His head may be big on the outside, but he doesn't have a swelled head. A guy who's stuck on himself would never take the kinds of sugarhearted-oaf roles that EY does. Nor would a conceited actor agree to embarrass himself with bad singing. EY does these things because he knows people enjoy it. He seems to enjoy it too. So, much as I dislike idiot characters, I appreciate and admire his dedication.
Eduardo Yanez - He shows more concern for entertaining the crowd and making his shows successful than in impressing critics or becoming the next Olivier.
His head may be big on the outside, but he doesn't have a swelled head. A guy who's stuck on himself would never take the kinds of sugarhearted-oaf roles that EY does. Nor would a conceited actor agree to embarrass himself with bad singing. EY does these things because he knows people enjoy it. He seems to enjoy it too. So, much as I dislike idiot characters, I appreciate and admire his dedication.
OK, I understand that this is a ladies' discussion of TN galans but may I offer for your consideration my favorite latino galan: Vicente Fernandez. His voice is heard in many novelas, he exudes machismo, nowadays finally has silky silver hair(although his eyebrows and mustache still look like black caterpillars) and is one of only a few men who can wear a powder blue charro outfit without looking fey. Pop over to You Tube and catch the video of him singing "Estos Celos", you will thank me for the referral. Sorry to butt in on this estrogenic conversation. As you were, ladies. Carlos
Hey Carlos...you can join in on our estrogenic conversations anytime. Now tell us about your buddy in the picture.
Julie...I think what bothers me about Yañez is that his eyes are small and set rather close together. In fact he almost looks cross-eyed.
But hey, if he's a good-hearted fellow and kind to his fans, I'm on board. Eve of Cleveland tells me that Colunga is the same way...goes out of his way to be gracious to his fans. So kudos to those guys.
And actually, I wanted to bash myself after criticizing some of these galans. I sure wouldn't want someone doing the same to me....so mea culpa, mea maxima culpa y perdoname, gentlemen.
But hey, if he's a good-hearted fellow and kind to his fans, I'm on board. Eve of Cleveland tells me that Colunga is the same way...goes out of his way to be gracious to his fans. So kudos to those guys.
And actually, I wanted to bash myself after criticizing some of these galans. I sure wouldn't want someone doing the same to me....so mea culpa, mea maxima culpa y perdoname, gentlemen.
Thanks, JudyB. That's the current love of my life,the lovely Bonnie Belle. She's beautiful but nowhere near as bright as her illustrious predecessor, the equally lovely, que en paz descanse, Clyde Henry. Carlos
Well, Soto really was a sack of potatoes in QE, in my opinion. I was glad to see that he's got more going on in real life!
Yañez isn't my favorite kind of good-looking, either, but he's quite bearable, except when he cries or has a tantrum, which is way too often. I'm not willing to watch him play another slack-jawed doofus again. I'd like to see him as someone more cool and shrewd (besides his five minutes as a gangster in The Punisher).
Yañez isn't my favorite kind of good-looking, either, but he's quite bearable, except when he cries or has a tantrum, which is way too often. I'm not willing to watch him play another slack-jawed doofus again. I'd like to see him as someone more cool and shrewd (besides his five minutes as a gangster in The Punisher).
Julie, your reference to "conceited actor" - anyone in particular that you had in mind? jaja. Don't answer.
I've heard the same about Colunga several times. That he is a good, decent, considerate guy. I know someone who met him. She was at an event as representative of a fan club of another star. FC actually asked her several questions about the fan club activities for the OTHER star! Like, that he was interested in someone other than himself! Como puede ser?
Had it been me, I would've just dissolved into a blithering heap. I'm not the starstruck type. I could even keep my composure if I met Camil. But TBLMOE ... he's on a whole different plane.
In photos, plenty of men are better looking than Jaime Camil. But when he starts performing, he outshines them. His movement, his charisma, his presence, and his sensuality all combine to make him magical to watch. For me, it's not that he's good looking (though he ain't ugly), but that he's fascinating.
I've heard the same about Colunga several times. That he is a good, decent, considerate guy. I know someone who met him. She was at an event as representative of a fan club of another star. FC actually asked her several questions about the fan club activities for the OTHER star! Like, that he was interested in someone other than himself! Como puede ser?
Had it been me, I would've just dissolved into a blithering heap. I'm not the starstruck type. I could even keep my composure if I met Camil. But TBLMOE ... he's on a whole different plane.
In photos, plenty of men are better looking than Jaime Camil. But when he starts performing, he outshines them. His movement, his charisma, his presence, and his sensuality all combine to make him magical to watch. For me, it's not that he's good looking (though he ain't ugly), but that he's fascinating.
Paula, I totally agree with your last paragraph re: Camil. You often say what I'm thinking, but you phrase it so much better.
Rating our galans, hmmmm . . .
I can't say who I like best. I love Colunga. Colunga is a real man - the bodice ripping, serious, manly, macho but sensitive man. You know he will protect you.
But, Camil, oh my. He's just SO damn handsome and adorable. He's a man, yet boyishly cute and charming at the same time.
Do I have to decide or can I switch back and forth depending on my mood? LOL
Eduardo Yañez - I didn't watch Destilando, but from the few clips that I saw I didn't think he was all that great. In FELS I just want to shoot him and put everyone out of their misery. The blank look, the ridiculously fake, broad smile with horse teeth. The stupid head tilting when he doesn't quite understand something. The kind of thing that's only really cute when a dog
does it - not a grown man. But I will admit from the neck down EY's got the bod.
Gabriel Soto - double yuck.
Chef Hawt - Oh yeah, definitely, but not in the same league with Colunga.
Weird as it sounds, and not in a sexual way, I always thought Cesar Evora was kind of attractive. I think it's his voice that does it for me.
William Levy - another double yuck, but I really am not attracted to blond men at all.
Speaking of blond men, I don't really watch Cuidado, but sometimes I catch bits and pieces of it. Whoever that guy is where Marichuy is living now with the long-ish thinning straggly hair is, he is GROSS. The crazy-eyed creep hiding in the bushes with a knife is more attractive!
I can't say who I like best. I love Colunga. Colunga is a real man - the bodice ripping, serious, manly, macho but sensitive man. You know he will protect you.
But, Camil, oh my. He's just SO damn handsome and adorable. He's a man, yet boyishly cute and charming at the same time.
Do I have to decide or can I switch back and forth depending on my mood? LOL
Eduardo Yañez - I didn't watch Destilando, but from the few clips that I saw I didn't think he was all that great. In FELS I just want to shoot him and put everyone out of their misery. The blank look, the ridiculously fake, broad smile with horse teeth. The stupid head tilting when he doesn't quite understand something. The kind of thing that's only really cute when a dog
does it - not a grown man. But I will admit from the neck down EY's got the bod.
Gabriel Soto - double yuck.
Chef Hawt - Oh yeah, definitely, but not in the same league with Colunga.
Weird as it sounds, and not in a sexual way, I always thought Cesar Evora was kind of attractive. I think it's his voice that does it for me.
William Levy - another double yuck, but I really am not attracted to blond men at all.
Speaking of blond men, I don't really watch Cuidado, but sometimes I catch bits and pieces of it. Whoever that guy is where Marichuy is living now with the long-ish thinning straggly hair is, he is GROSS. The crazy-eyed creep hiding in the bushes with a knife is more attractive!
Melissa, regarding El Leopardo (long straggly-haired guy on Cuidado), I think he's supposed to be a contrast to Juan Miguel. That is, the attraction is supposed to be his character rather than his looks (although that doesn't work if you don't find JM swoon-worthy). The actor has looked much better in other roles, so it's the character, not that the actor is so nasty-looking. I agree that the evil baby-napper is quite a looker...but what can I say, I have a fatal attraction to the dark wiry ones.
Julia - "dark wiry" That's him alright. He's got really crazy eyes too.
El Leopardo? Is that his nickname around here or does he actually go by that?
El Leopardo? Is that his nickname around here or does he actually go by that?
To be honest, I had several very popular actors from the 60s and 70s in mind when I referred to conceited actors. I can think of several actors who were very fortunate to get memorable, beloved roles, then griped for the rest of their lives that the role was "silly" and that it ruined their chances of becoming a "Serious Actor."
Now, in a way I can understand what they meant; they felt that they were capable of much more and they're sad that they didn't get to prove it. Statistically speaking, however, there are a lot more people who THINK they will excel in their professions than actually do; chances are that many of those bitter actors were terribly mistaken in believing that they were going to get better roles.
I'm sure there are lots of reasons for wanting to be an actor besides the desire to entertain people, but being remembered as Ginger or Mike Brady is not a bad thing. Even if you never work again, you're still the envy of all those hopefuls who never got a break at all.
I realize that "formerly conceited actor who wasn't so charming on Cristina" probably brings another actor's name to mind too, actually, but my mind was in a completely different time and place. And hopefully that was just a phase on his part.
Now, in a way I can understand what they meant; they felt that they were capable of much more and they're sad that they didn't get to prove it. Statistically speaking, however, there are a lot more people who THINK they will excel in their professions than actually do; chances are that many of those bitter actors were terribly mistaken in believing that they were going to get better roles.
I'm sure there are lots of reasons for wanting to be an actor besides the desire to entertain people, but being remembered as Ginger or Mike Brady is not a bad thing. Even if you never work again, you're still the envy of all those hopefuls who never got a break at all.
I realize that "formerly conceited actor who wasn't so charming on Cristina" probably brings another actor's name to mind too, actually, but my mind was in a completely different time and place. And hopefully that was just a phase on his part.
I'm way late in posting this but my taste in men runs more to the Johnny Depp type than Colunga who by all reports is a nice guy and treats his fans well. Yanez looks crude to me and I recently read something about him lately treating his fans like dirt. I can't help wondering why he lets himself get saddled with these dumb guy parts.
Ditto with Levy looking like he probably repeated a few grades. There doesn't seem to be anything behind his eyes.
Chef Hawt is Jorge Aravena who O always think looks a lot like David Borenaz (I know i misspelled that I mean the guy from Bones). Aravena is also a guy who treats his fans well. Years ago when the Telenovela forums began he was in an afternoon novela we all loved., One day someone claiming to be him posted on the forum setting off one of those is it him or not things. He later appeared on Cristina and specifically mentioned posting on the forum creating a heap of fans for life.
I too am attracted to Ceasar with that sexy voice and a few years ago had big thing for Arturo Peniche who was gorgeous and who remains a brilliant actor.
Ditto with Levy looking like he probably repeated a few grades. There doesn't seem to be anything behind his eyes.
Chef Hawt is Jorge Aravena who O always think looks a lot like David Borenaz (I know i misspelled that I mean the guy from Bones). Aravena is also a guy who treats his fans well. Years ago when the Telenovela forums began he was in an afternoon novela we all loved., One day someone claiming to be him posted on the forum setting off one of those is it him or not things. He later appeared on Cristina and specifically mentioned posting on the forum creating a heap of fans for life.
I too am attracted to Ceasar with that sexy voice and a few years ago had big thing for Arturo Peniche who was gorgeous and who remains a brilliant actor.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 1:42:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 1:42:00 PM EST
Thanks Sylvia. Just now got around to reading this.
Re Jaime Camil: for me he is the perfect man - good looks, charm, funny, caring, sweet. He's a goofball, but when you need him to be serious, nobody does it better.
I know he's playing parts, but I don't think he could pull it all off if part of it wasn't his personality.
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Re Jaime Camil: for me he is the perfect man - good looks, charm, funny, caring, sweet. He's a goofball, but when you need him to be serious, nobody does it better.
I know he's playing parts, but I don't think he could pull it all off if part of it wasn't his personality.
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: Monday, January 12, 2009 at 1:44:00 PM EST
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