Thursday, March 26, 2009

MEPS, Wed. March 25, (#28) - Let's Give The Greek Chorus of Big Cats Something To Really MEEEE-OWWWW About

So heartaches and DisemPowerMllk Drinks make for a romping wedding night but not for the novios, or at least not both of them. Errika's big drunken idea is to have her poor smashed little face seem like it could attract a hunk like Franco. Lucio wants to desecrate Soledad's dear little cottage and begin to live his dream of being the kept man who lives high on the hill because he has such juicy secrets to guard for the Barbinator. Fernanda puts two and two together and comes up not with the two betraying her in the bed but the one betraying her with flowers. And, cuidado Aurora, that act of voyeurism is going to put you in danger and let's hope Liliana is getting mostly pills she can spit out and not shocks or needles or drips.

But tonight we hear:

* BOW barking on the phone, demands that Dr. Matamentos get from Liliana exactly what the devil she said to her sister. She sees the light under the office door and knows that the turtle doves aren't billing or cooing.. Eduardo has to consider doing what Erika asks and breaking his pledge from years ago. Fernanda cries, what is going to illuminate these sad days.

The damage is done. I tried to ruin your wedding and though I didn't achieve it, I did earn your hatred.

Nana was like the water flowing through her hands he only mother . . She cries that you will always live in my heart and I will never forget you. Soledad steps toward her in aura light left over from the wardrobe of La Rosa De Guadalupe. She will assure her eternal rest in a really really nice grave.

Where is your love? snarks Barbara, He returns, she is in the chapel praying a rosary for Soledad's eternal rest. I had to support your step daughter. And I have to work while missing the nice wedding night where I was planning to take possession of my bride. But what's this I see as the robe slips off, Barbinorgasma plans to help him enjoy a great wedding night after all. Where is your husband, sleeping sweet dreams after his disempower milk. [Boy she does smile beautifully at CERTAIN times.] Ohh, ohh, Aurora is up and wandering, decides to go for a little walk.

Liliana is walking too. she wakes up Ciro, sleeping over his chess board. Wake up, wake up (despierta) , what's happening . I dreamed that (Eduardo) is crying because Nanda married another. Ciro asks, When is the wedding? I don't know but, I remember her telling me that she was going to marry. She can't marry him, she is still in love with Eduardo. What can I do to help you? asks kindly Ciro.

Out wandering among the wilting wedding flowers, Aurora thinks, inside the writhing, panting nearly naked couple are not needing to think much. Aurora continues to walk near a row of the windows and sees the hot action, against blue stained glass, [duck, Aurora. BOW has eyes in the back of her head. . and makes love with her eyes wide open.]

In the horse barn with his wheelbarrow of fresh greens, Jacinto, says good day to Tomasa who says that Camlo woke up in a foul temper (se levante de un genio) and is looking for you.

Back on cottage row, Gardenia continues to nag at Margarita that she swallows his lies easily, insinuating that she is getting lovey instead of standing on principle and continuing to torment her husband. (Me thinks pretty Gardenia needs some of what BOW got last night to cool her jets.)

Camilho screams at Jacinto waving the little piece of leather with tacks which has magically reappeared inspite of his unconscious departure from the wedding. What is the meaning of this tack strip. This was your fault that the mare rearedup (botó) on my girlfriend. He rants several lines includng, your scars are going to be worse than ever. You are in charge of all the horses. But just as he moves forward to whip Jacinto, Nanda comes down the stairs in virgin black and stops her enraged brother. Jacinto's quivering is palpable.

* Erika emerges from her beauty sleep and manages to smile at Eduardo, good day, When you are ready, I will drive you to your house. Have you thought about what I asked last night, she wonders. He hands out ice water this morning.

Nanda reminds Camilho that problems are not resolved with blows. Camilho is disappointed with this news which he really did not know, and Nanda is further distressed that he showed up with a new girlie and destroyed Erika making yet another scene at her disaster of a wedding. Who cares, he sneers. You got your big fat power husband didn't you? Nanda springs back with, I don't need the big hubby to know you are a miserable lout (patán)

Dr.Matamente (Dr. Gay to some of his fans) approaches Liliana about her medications and says Barbara ordered that she be controled more but if she cooperates, perhaps they can be friends.

The sweet couple (meaning Dam and Nan) kiss goodbye demurely while Anibal huffs and puffs that they have to get to the airport like now.. She will miss him she says without much conviction. This is an outrage to send him off to New York instead of off to their honeymoon.

Dr. Mata promises Lili he can ignore the orders of BOW and she could make more trips to the garden and lifting of some of the restrictions if Lili will just agree to be his friend (I keep misspelling this fiend, is that a Freudian slip) She wants to know about the pills, he promises today she won't have to take any. if she will confide in him and tell him ALL like friends do. Do you promise Lily do you promise.I will leave you to think about this.

This depends on the future of Grupo Lactos says the always ruffled and ever shriller Anibal. Nanda thinks they can't be that close to bankruptcy (quiebra), One can almost hear Anibal's thoughts, If only you knew.

Erika and Eduardo discuss the crime that CamHo Elizalde committed and how many years has she accepted this engagement (noviazgo). Erika wants to know when he will answer her question. With this much spirit to push, it's a wonder she is such a punching bag for Cami. Let's go to your house. Seatbelt (cinturon) he says gently, just to show he can make anything sound sexy...

Anibal needs to rehearse the roll of convincing the gringos to invest in Lactos. Nanda thinks they could talk about other things at least on the way to the airport and infact she will drive her new husband if they can't even have a honeymoon they can spend as much time together as possible. Anibal wants to talk strategy. Damian insists with a swagger that PM must be impressed with his abilities if they insist he comes to NY. Further aggravating Anibal and especially Damian, Nanda insists that Jacinto come with her and the dweeb and the yellow SUV. Anibal has to get into his car alone.

Aurora puts a necklace back on the dresser and prepares to leave. Cheerful Santi, says I came to look for you do you want breakfast. She has to go, she says sadly looking back at the pretty things. He is looking for the magic words that will make her stay and have breakfast so she won't have an empty stomach. Finally she agrees that she won't go until after breakfast. She has left the lovely party dress and all. Santi is sad that she is all packed.

Aurora next sees BOW kissing again but this is only the old Gonzo kisser upon which she superimposes her memory of the hotter scene from last night.

* Aurora looks dimly and Barbara tells them to come in. How did you pass the night. Aurora says it's better if I go now. But Papa says please join us for breakfast. Santi kisses papa. the Maids carry in coffee and toast.

Ciro what are you doing, asks Lili. The instructions he says, I am looking for the instructions for the game. where are they? He places money on the table but leaves the rest in the back of the chess board and says last night you asked me to help you. Let us play chess for a while and I will look in your room, don't leave until I come back for you.

The breakfast is nerves on toast and BOW pretends that she is so pleased to see Santi whom they don't see often and therefore his friend. Santi doesn't look convinced, Papa has to go to work, but invites Aurora to feel like she is in her house. BOW moves in Where do you come from? Santi offers, She is from Michoacan but we met in Guadalajara? Then for some time we have lived in Jalisco. So senora where are you from? Aurora finds her own spunk. Santi reflects that they have never known where she came from. Aurora asks again, and again Barbara evades with I came from a small town in the north. Aurora continues, but what is the name of it? Barbara smiles her Cheshire cat smile, perhaps Santiago can take you there before you leave, he is a good tourist. .

Erika says okay now we are at my house. The time to think has ended. Sr. Santoro, I am grateful that you rescued me and sorry I asked something so crazy. I understand that you wouldn't want to do what I ask. No I want to but I am trying to understand. She spins her argument to look great, The only thing she did wrong was to be in love with a miserable.creep . You want to pretend (fingir) at the hacienda that we are dating and together. He agrees that she needs some way to not feel humiliated. I don't think the good Erika realizes just how ugly this beaten face looks, but after all it seems to move Eduardo to think he should risk his business stance and help her.

*Eduardo says what you are proposing to me seems crazy (descabellado) but it's a deal. In return I need to ask a favor that you help me find a really fine horse. That's all she asks hoping he needs other help. NO, I understand that your family raises horses so you should know where I can rent a good horse.

At the airport Nanda returns to the car and Jacinto helps her in. I want to talk to you alone so you will tell me the truth. Why haven't you told me that Eduardo is here. Jacinto swallows loudly.

Eduardo is talking to Steve on his car phone (correctly hands free) Damian will be in New York in some hours, the plane should have taken off (despagar) by now. Communicate with me after the meeting. I am sure he is coming with Fernanda .

Nanda keeps on about what friends Jacinto and Eduardo were and what have they heard of Ed and when he says nothing she continues, and you or Margarita have talked with him, NO? You are hiding something. They hid for whatever motives that Soledad had died. Jacinto holds his own denying the contact. She plans to have Soledad moved to the famly crypt when Eduardo shows up so they can have a proper service.

Ciro gives money to Alfonsina saying all things are possible, and this is just for her grandchildren and the presents they might need. He only wants to get permission for Lili to talk on the phone Nurse Alfonsina says, who does she want to call? He says calmly, her sister, She seems to enjoy foiling Dr. MataMente so says, in 5 minutes the guard changes wait for me in your room.

Jacinto is grasping for words, understand that the death of Soledad was.... well it was her wish to .... I'm having trouble (Me cuesta trabajo) believing that Eduardo is here and he hasn't communicated with you I want to know because that I want to move Soledad to the mausoleum of my family. Jacinto shrugs This is what my father promised her years ago.

Franco talks to Steve . that his when his Mother died, she told him she had left a secret he needs to find out. He flashes back to her death bed saying the secret is with Liliana at the asylum.

*Gotta love the PSA's tonight where men pledge not to beat their women, anymore. Camilho, we are talking about people like you.

At the elegant asylum with fountains. Lili keeps repeating dont' marry with Damian. about 10 times. The nurse says Ciro everything is ready (está listo, remember that ser listo = be smart) . There isn' t much time Adolfina. Let's look for Liliana but as she leaves the room Dr. Mata finds her and says where are you going? Adolfina says meekly, to check (reviso) Lili's room. He waves his flowers, and says, I will do that. Once in her room he cajoles, these are for you, friends bring presents and we are friends. she takes the flowers but he immediately ask her to remember the visit from her sister and just what did your sister tell you?? Lili looks worried and says the flowers want water. He will bring her all the water she wants if she answers his question. You are trying my patience. Adolfino bursts into the room. Dr. M snaps what are you doing? She pretends some patient's family is looking for him and he hands the flowers to her. Adolfina says come with me, Lili to my office don't you want to talk to your sister.

It was you, right? says BOW to Cigarman. [Does she mean the flowers, she really isn't sure yet.]

The car comes into gas station fill it (llena) she says . Then I will take you to your house so you can give me the number to call Eduardo

And who should appear but Ed right behind her pulling up his car miraculously right behind Fernanda. I will attend to you in a minute young man. Ed does the obvious walks up to her window and says buenos dias. What a smile.

Lili on phone who's is on the phone, Tomoasa the made answers, Lili timidly gets out that she wants to talk to Fernanda.

Fernanda calls from Jacinto's while Eduardo uses a hanky to disguise his voice. They make plans to see him but what is he really going to do.....

Next chapter is FRIDAY, you have tomorrow night off for the Premios awards.

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Comments:
Thanks for a quick recap Cheryl. I'm just wondring what on earth Eduardo will say to Fernanda about finding out that Soledad died. Remember that Fernanda does not think that Eduardo/Franco knows about this. Ed/Franc has to play along with the ruse.


Ibarramedia
 

Thank you so much Cheryl for the fun recap and vocabulario. I agree with you about Gardenia, she needs to get her ashes hauled.

I didn't have time to rewind over and over. Please clarify: Eduardo agreed to pretend to be dating Erika? I know this is a novela, but this is crazy. Everybody knows she is just meeting Franco, everybody is just meeting Franco. Before I get all worked up, is that the agreement? If so, what the heck is in it for him? Thanks. And Ibarramedia, you got a good point!

Also, whoever said it a week ago, I think they're right: Aurora has probably found Mommy dearest right in the casa of her angel, Santi. Babs does not intimidate Aurora, she pretty much meets her gaze and now knows for sure how rara she is!

Khalilah
 

Thanks Cheryl for a speedy recap. I'm still confused about Errorika's proposal. There's got to be more to it than just pretend we are novios. I must be missing something.

Camil-ho is such a little biatch. I was waiting for Jacinto to just haul off and smack him a good one. He'd just cry and run away. What a little bully. I think even Nanda could make his cowardly ass run away.

Who is the new guy? (He wasn't there last night but he was in last week's episode.) I call him creepy guy because he looked creepy. Is he good or bad?
 

Cheryl, great recap as usual, I loved the title.

Connie, are you talking about Valdimar? Valdimar was the creepy looking guy at the wedding with Damien's mother and is now trying to get into Prissy bed. He must be bad. Poor Prissy, I really like her bad wig and all.

I cannot believe that the poor, new bride, all in black, had to play pack mule for Damien and schlep his luggage out to car! And there were two other able bodied, brain addled, men standing about. (This makes me crazy)

Maybe we should send Gardenia over to the Funny Farm to trade places with Lil - I bet it wouldn't take her long to straighten Dr. Gay out!


Liberate Lil!!!!

rsk
 

Thanks for the recap !! I'm confused about what Jacinto said (or didn't say). Did he admit that Eduardo is in town? The whole phone call thing is unclear to me.
 

Yes, Vladimer, that was his name. He looked very creepy but a lot more fun than Any Balls. But that wouldn't take much.
 

Connie,I am not sure if he was a hired escort for mother of the groom or a friend of the groom or both. I am sure he will have a major part in Prissy life in the very near future. Hell hath no fury...

rsk
 

Great recap Cheryl …. Thank you!!! You had me with --- “Soledad steps toward her in aura light left over from the wardrobe of La Rosa De Guadalupe.”

While we’re on the topic of flower names, I noticed the name of the manicomio is “MiraFlores.” Maybe this has been mentioned earlier and I missed it. (maybe I need to move to miraflores...)

Ah,,,, attention to the tiniest details in this telenovela: I loved it when the maid jumped as the toast popped up. (giggle)

I don’t think Jacinto admitted Eduardo is in town.

In telenovelaland it is quite normal for someone to meet, and within 24 hours become novios. ;-) Yep, it’s in the rules, so a FrEd/Erika pareja would be no big deal.
 

Great recap, comadre Cheryl! Yes, Eduardo can just smile and make the world a better place.

Lili needs to break out soon! Maybe Eduardo will help. He's going to have many stories to keep straight.

It spoke volumes to see Fer pulling the luggage in her high heels across the yard! Why did she do it?! Maybe she felt guilty for depriving Damian on their wedding night...
jb
 

Hi there early risers, thanks for chiming in. I think the Erika proposal is a bit sketchy but because she is not the clearest of thinkers. Somehow in her foggy champagne soaked brain, she can pull out some dignity if she can pretend that she was busy at the wedding with her new novio and CaminHo's dastardly appearance with his new girlfriend didn't phase her.

I don't know how she intends to work around the beating bit, that will be hard to hide from Nanda. But it did convnce Ed/Franco to help her out even though it doesn't make sense on one hand for him to make the Elizondo's mad. Actually, you know, I don't think they will care at the Lactos, CamilHo doesn't seem to have a role there at all. He only does sex, horses and mirror gazing as far as I can see.

As for Jacinto, he dragged out his answer but he did keep denying that Eduardo was there or that he had talked to him. Somehow, Nanda pushes him to get a phone number at his house and she intends to call him. I do think she will think she is telling him about his Mother's death. But we will see Friday night. Somehow, Jacinto must have time to warn Franco/Ed so he can do the handkerchief routine and he lowered his voice, as we saw at the end last night.
 

Deftly done,Cheryl. Thanks a heap. It looked like Damian may be warming up with the luggage and the hatchback. I think his cell phone is in real peril. Kahlilah, do you think that Babs may be Aurora's mom? Hmm,an interesting thought. It was nice to see Damian and Babs get it on with out the furtive desperation of rutting rodents, just some unhurried old fashioned hot monkeylove. More, please.

LL!

Carlos
 

Thanks, Cheryl. Dam is Barb's boytoy, so Lucio can forget his fantasy of getting that position. For Dam , cheated out of his noche de boda, it's any port in a storm, I suppose. He doesn't seem very discerning, verdad ? Sometimes when I look at Sergio , I get a James Dean / Grease vibe. ... It's that slicked back DA haircut. So far , I don't see him as evil , just weak, spineless, amoral and not the sharpest tack in the box. I liked the way he threw his suitcase into the back of the car. [Again, I think he's teasing the fans of DA and his cellphone abusing schtick.] So...does everyone think that Aurora is Barb's daughter ? Since Barb killed her folks, the grandma must be Aurora's daddy's mama.
 

I think Vladimir is kind of a cutie and I bet Priscila is going to enjoy finding out if he is good or bad....
 

I agree Cheryl. He's cute in a creepy sort of way though. He does kind of remind me of a vampire!

You know, Camil-Ho has to sleep sometime....baseball bat, kneecap...I'm just saying...
 

Khalilah, It certainly crossed my mind when they met that Aurora is something like an early oops daughter or at least a kid sister that she stiffed way back in her murky past. Their eyes spoke of daggers and danger when they met again at breakfast in last night's scene.
 

Susanlynn, Damian is definitely teasing us with his phones and possibly with suitcases. I know I saw him raise his cell phone up with such tension and act like he was going to arc it down into a smash some episodes ago. He didn't look right at the camera but I bet he knew some of us were just waiting for the moment to reveal his passion for smashin'.
 

Good morning Cheryl, thank you for the wonderful recap. Your comprehension really cleared up some details for me, especially the "plot" that Erika and Fr/Ed are cooking up. Didn't make much sense to me. It seems to me that every time we see Liliana she acts a bit more lucid.
 

Thank you Cheryl, I really appreciate you and those vocabulary word which I don't have to look up. Loved that "Nanda comes down the stairs in virgin black..."

So I guess Edwardo learned a lesson about spiteful actions. The priest was right that Ed/Franco is capable of self judgement.

Seems that Cigarman does not live very far away. Now that's interesting!
 

Bonny, That is a very good observaton that Ciggieman lives near by. Barbara might also have a broom to travel on. It seems like too small a town to keep powerful people like him hidden. Oh beanie adjustment time is here again...
 

Barbara might also have a broom to travel on. Good one, Cheryl.

Carlos
 

Funny, but I haven't found Vlad to be creepy at all, except for his name. I do find it funny, though, when someone seems to fall deeply in love with someone just by looking at them, as Vlad did with Pris.

Erika's little scheme with Fr/Ed does seem farfetched, but both she and Fr/Ed said as much, so at least they know it's crazy. (So crazy, it JUST MIGHT WORK!)

Eh, well, I'm not at all sure it will make Camilo jealous as she hopes, but at least she won't look like a forlorn, just-dumped, wretched thing that no one would want.

And Fr/Ed will now have an additional "in" to Fernanda's social circle.

I'm still hazy on how all this is supposed to work, especially with the Power Milk scam, etc., but we'll find out soon enough. (No! Not soon enough!! No show tonight, waaaaah!)
 

No show tonight!? Oh no, just when I had time to watch again. :-}
 

Thanks for the recap. I also especially like your including translations of words/idoms.

The HORSE, the HORSE

This is the third tiem I have heard Ed refer to horses and horsemen (jockeys).

He mentioned in his first meeting with the Elizalde's in their office that he was a horseman, if I understood it right (or was he asking who was the best horseman in the area?)

He then mentioned it again to Camilo again at the wedding. If I recall, he said that he had asked around who was the best horseman in the area and the answer given to him was Camilo. Then, he said he was a horseman, as well.

Now, he wants a horse.

I am seeing a challenge of a horse race, English style, over creeks and log fences. Maybe Ed clears his fence and Camilo misses the fence by an inch and Ed has his venganza against Camilo for pushing his Mother into the swimming pool??

Hmmmm.... ???


Ris
 

Well, some things are being explained, but are ne more clear. This agreement between Ed and Error appears to be as I thought, but makes no more sense to me Who is getting what out of it. Oh, Eddy is getting a pony, Error is getting a cardboard (in that he isn't for real) boyfriend. What's going to do, present her bruised face at the next soire' and say-look what I found?! Makes no sense.

And Fer dragging the suitcase across the lawn, then driving Damian to the airport with Jacinto in tow!? Would have made more sense for Anyballs(?) to drive him, discussing the NYC mtg, and Fer would have Jacinto alone at the hacienda to interrogate, proceed to make the phone call to Eddy's LOCAL cell number! I, too, loved Dam's careful handling of his own luggage- I hope that he doesn't put in a claim against the airline for damage.
there is something between Aurora and Babs- do they both suspect it? Or is it just us? Liked the way that the Aurora turned the tables on Babs at the bfast table.
That mating scene that Aurora was a "voyeuring" didn't make much sense, either. Fer went to the chapel, she'll be coming back into the house soon. It's almost like Bab's wants to get caught, she really can't be that careless...Isn't Lucero something else when she smiles?

I'm wondering when Gardenia is going to have to be told of Eddy's presence, She is such a loose cannon and hothead. (not just a hothead- I googled Aleida Nunez-the actress playing 'Denia- smokin! hot!)
Ooops- almost forgot- thanks for the recap, Cheryl...
 

I thought Vlad's conversation checking out particulars with Damian, who he knows is a con man, indicated that he sees Prissy as a work opportunity.
 

Silverfox- this horse thing is going to be very important, I have a feeling. I'm eager to see what horsey Errorika gets for Eddy- probably a gorgeous thouroghbred stallion, and he'll hire Jacinto to groom him, etc, etc...
 

Didn't Jacinto say he had called Edwardo before and he had come to town. Isn't that why Fern told her Papa that Edwardo had not come to see them because obviously he had no interest in seeing them?

I think Gardenia is just being a sister, whether by blood or in the spirit, advising sometimes excitedly a sister how to maintain mental health and happiness.
 

Is it in the telenovela rules that Cadmilow dies at the end?
 

Erroka's plan didn't seem all that clear to Franco either! I think he's agreed to go along with her because she feels her dignity will be saved. And the indiginities all his friends and mother have suffered pushed his button.
 

I'm not sure what the telenovela rules are for death, besides dissing your mom being an express ticket, so I'm not sure if Cadmilo has earned a grisly death yet. (Of course, I'm hoping.)

However, I think he's just warming up and will just keep doing worse and worse things until his arrogance offends the wrong person and then he gets whacked.

I feel silly that I didn't consider that Vlad is a con man himself. D'oh! Did we see Pris present divorce papers in the avances, or was I making up my own replacement dialogue as usual?
 

Thanks for the recap, Cheryl.

Barbinator the sex kitten and Damien her cat toy. ;)

Did anyone else notice the agave plant in the Virgen and baby portrait? Is that a little salute to DA?

Jody :)
 

Cheryl, thanks for the detailed recap, you always get so much in, which not speaking the language i really appreciate. Knowing that Fr/Ed realizes he has earned Nanda's hate. So sad.

If Nanda really thinks that Fr/Ed is behind the flowers then she must assume that he knows his mom is dead. Why he hasn't shown himself, besides that he hates them, is the question she needs answered.

I think if Erika can convice people that Fr/Ed took her away from the party in her condition and fell in love with her, that makes him the white knight and Camilho an even bigger shmuck. Even disfiguring her didn't make her undersirable to a hotty hot hotty! And Fr/Ed can be close to the family socially without raising any red flags because Erika is always with the family. So there is something to be gained by both.

I fear Lili is going to get another big shot for making that phone call, I hope not! Her whole story just makes me sick. Fr/Ed has to go back, he knows she has something important.

So my last thought is Fr/Ed seems to have made something of himself all those years away in the US. If the family business is really going down the tubes, will our studly hero be the savior of them all in the end and buy up the stupid company?

Liberate Lili!
 

Good idea Molly. Then he could hire someone to do the work leaving him free to take more showers. ;P
 

I am not sure what the papers were that Pris presented but I am thinking Vlad would make a more fun surrogate papa if he can supply the goods that Anibal can't seem to come up with so to speak...

I was remembering how good with horses the young Eduardo was, remember how he left his beautiful horse in Jacinto's care when he was packed off to school. I agree with all those that thilnk the expert horsemanship challenge is Eduardo's pathway to get CamilHo's goat. Cami thinks he is god's gift to horses (and women too) but Ed is for sure going to be a better champion (with both in the end.)
 

ok.. back to my comment about a horseman challenge by Eduardo of Camilo.

He wouldn't have to die.

After his horse misses the fence, he could hit his head and go into a 6 month coma. Then, he returns to the land of the living and:

1) Takes Lili's room at the nuthouse!
2) Becomes a priest and ministers to the Indians in the jungle!
3) Has an epiphany, sees the light, and joins Eduardo's army!


Ris
 

Connie, if Fr/Ed is going to start riding, then he absolutely must shower! You get so dirty riding. I would love to see a horse races with Cadmilho ending up on his head in a lake!

Oh, and after all the talk of phone throwing, I laughed out loud when Damian chucked his suitcase into the car.
 

Maybe Fr/Ed could ride Capricho.
 

Re Vladim

I am not yet convinced that Vladim is a bad guy.

From what I've seen, he is acting the part of someone who really is smitten by Priscilla.

Of course, his relationship, whatever it is, to Sleazeball Damian doesn't speak well for him - but I've seen nothing yet to indicate he's a bad guy.

So, we shall see....

Ris
 

Nope Silverfox, in my script he must die DEAD!
MAYbee, it was Barb with a pickax in the stable...neckeed.
 

Capitana, I loved the vigin of the agave picture too. Nice use of beautiful folk arts in this whole TN don't you think? I have especially been admiring the various folksy horse sculptures of different materials.

By the way, here is my horsey oriented entry into the art tour coming up in Corrales in May I am number six:
www.corralesartstudiotour.com
 

Hey BonnieChurros:

If miserable Camilo must die - I shall not mourn him.



Ris....
 

That Virgin de agave closely resemble the Sto. Nino or the infant child Jesus.

It would be intriguing if Aurora is Babs long lost unknown daughter. In real life though, she is too young to be her daughter unless she had her when she was 12-15 years old.

Yes my humble opinion, Vladimir is evil. So is Damian.

Ibarramedia
 

It would be fine with me if Camilo was in some way damaged rather than killed - actually I think horrible facial scars and bankruptcy would be the way to go. The guy gets a lot of mileage out of his money and his pretty face.

So are we going to see Natasha again, or has she already exceeded his attention span?
 

Thanks Cheryl, I was dozing in and out and missed some stuff. Has anyone else noticed how weirdly Barb "does the deed?" She looks off like at the camera. She doesn't seem to be into it all except that she's sticking it to Fernanda. To me, it doesn't even look like - if you'll pardon the expression - normal sex. ha ha She seems more interested in whether their catching her at a good angle.
 

Cheryl: I loved your pictures for the Art Tour, especially the last one of the horse's face. Awesome!

Great recap, too, thanks. This show is really exciting. Or maybe the actors make it exciting. For example, when Fernanda stopped at the gas station, and saw Ed in the rear view mirror, and he comes up and says hello, somehow that seemingly innocuous scene was filled with tension and excitement. I'm really enjoying this show.
 

sssThanks, Cheryl, for a very informative and enjoyable recap.

Damian throwing his suitcase into the back of the SUV with a look of disgust on his face was a scream. At least he didn't throw his laptop into the back. So, he's a little more restrained than he of his was in D A.....so far.... but i hope we see more of his "passion for smashin" down the road.

So where's that cell phone when you need one again. I guess the supervising nurse doesn't have one so she has to drag poor Lil to the office. Will they be caught and punished?

I think Babs may be old enough to be Aurora's Mom if she were a very young mom and that Vlad has the hots for Pris who has the fringe benefits of being part of a wealthy family (gravy train.) GinCA
 

Delete sss and i and add I. Sorry. GinCA
 

Hey Cheryl...were you thinking of Bonnie Raitt's song "Let's Give 'Em Something to Talk About" cause that immediately popped into my head and will now be playing all day.

Enjoyed your recap and especially wonderful that you taught your readers the difference between "estar listo" and "ser listo". Muy bien, amiga!

I loved it when Eduardo said "cinturon"...to me that said, protective, caring...and hey, that IS sexy in a man.

And the excitement and tension, as Hombre pointed out, when Fernanda caught a glimpse of him in the side mirror, and then he comes up, and then he pauses, and then he smiles, and then he....... says "Fernanda"....ay yi yi, I'm off to the shower...a cold one!
 

Thanks very much for the recap Cheryl. It helps to clarify/solidify things. I agree with those that say Vlad is bad. :-) I've seen him in Guapos and Muchachitas and he was a raving loonie in both of them. Someone the other day mentioned another TN they saw him in and he was the same there. Just look at those crazy eyes and you know he's ready to drop off the deep end. :-)
Fr/Ed is building an army. I hope he leads well.
Definitely a lot of PSAs tonight, seatbelt, hands free talking. However, he hands free is not even recommended. :-)
JeffMN
 

"Since Barb killed her folks,..." Susanlynn --- I did not realize she had done this. I missed that somewhere along the line. Yoicks!

re: Aurora --- this is a spoiler-free zone (hooray!) so if you want the real scoop on her and other cast characters, copy & paste this into your browser:

http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/read-t.php?f=512&i=421&t=421#reply_421
 

Thanks Cheryl, I always enjoy your recaps. Even though my Spanish vocabulary has a lot to be desired. I had no idea how helpful the closed captions were and how much I depended on them. Except for what I could surmise from watching their actions, my understanding of the dialogue was nil. The following comment is not meant to be a criticism and takes nothing from your excellent write up. However, one statement you made hit a sensitive nerve. (It's about when Erika is trying to persuade Ed pretend they are a couple). You said: I don't think the good Erika realizes just how ugly this beaten face looks, but after all it seems to move Eduardo to think he should risk his business stance and help her". She is to be pitied really. She's as bad as Rhianna (who I also didn't think looked ugly after her abuse). OK, had to get that off my chest. Bottom line, don't blame the victim. Other than that I loved your recap.
 

Odd, I didn't see that as blaming the victim at all.

Hombre de Misterio: Yes, the actors are definitely making this more interesting. With a less skilled cast, I don't know if the story alone could hold me. But the actors are bringing subtleties into their performances that give depth to their characters and make them more mysterious!

I was personally a little turned off by Fr/Ed telling Erika to put on her cinturón. She's not a child.
 

Cheryl, wonderful photos, thanks for sharing the link.

I don't like Vlad, can't say why, I just don't. Lets hope Pris is smart because I do really like her!

Can't wait to see what kind of horse Fr/Ed gets! A Capricho horse would be lovely.
 

Cheryl, great recap! I loved Dr. Matamentos, a direct descendent of Matasanos in FELS.

I don't get it. This is clearly the modern era, cell phones galore, even hands free ones, laptops, etc. But the ricos are allowed to whip the serfs? I'm starting to really like Silvia Navarro. She seems much more substantial and earthy than lots of telenovias. Camilho didn't dare mess with her when she interrupted his planned attack on Jacinto. She looked perfectly capable of grabbing the whip and giving the SOB a taste of his own medicine.

I was wondering if I was nuts last night. When BOW met with the shadowy person, it seemed a different voice to me, not gravelly, actually like a woman's voice, and the hair looked smoother. Anyone else notice this?

Doesn't look like Lili's phone call is going to work, judging by the avances. I am heartily sick of the manicomio story line. And how come Ciro is in there at all? He does mathematical calculations in his room (which is pretty luxurious), plays good chess, and has lots of dough.
 

I don't think it was bad to remind a passenger to put on their seatbelt. I do that all the time when I noticed they have not worn it yet and I'm driving. I just say Maryland law, gotta have that seatbelt on. That gets me off the hook. No malice or put down intended.

I noticed that you all are so gung ho about Damian destroying cell phones. Is that his trademark? Do all his characters destroy a cell phone each episode?

I did not think much about Fernanda wheeling Damian's luggage. First off, to me it's petty. The luggage is not big and heavy, just a small one for a few nights. secondly, it has wheels. And Fernanda soes not hav emuch of an uppity senora attitude that she would let the servants do anything. Besides she is liberated. Here is my take on Damian throwing the luggage into the back of the vehicle. He is pissed that he has to go to New York instead of honeymooning with Fernanda. He did not get some from Fernanda, though had some with Babs. I think they were running a bit late and he was frustrated with his conversation with Fernanda.

OT: I found a site that summarized eco moda.

http://www.geocities.com/lencagape/

Ibarramedia
 

Yes, Let's Give Them Something To Talk About, gotta love Bonnie. She gets relationship songs just right for me. Priscilla could sing It's About Time from Bonnie's collection too I think.

Anon at 02:07, I am totally in agreement with you that the victim should not be blamed. Perhaps driven to the nearest shrink if she will not stop letting it happen but I meant that Ed/Franc was not trying to slime up to her and seduce her which she seemed to be a bit afraid of when she woke in the night and he had just come in. At that point she had not looked at herself in the mirror and was in an even worse position to make clear judgements. Immediately trying to trump up a new boyfriend scene seemed part whacky, part lack of self confidence both of which aided her predicament and how she got involved with CamilHo the more flashy brother instead of Santi who is the real mensch and always has been. He adored her and she could have been with him but was obviously not thinking deeply back then either.

Hombre, thanks for looking at the site. I have previewed most of those pictures here in the last weeks but I am excited about how the 11 x 14 version of the black stallion looks with elegant double mat and frame.
 

I'm not so sure that mental institution isn't so much a hospital as a place to put people to forget them. They took Lili knowing there was nothing wrong with her and look what they have done to her.

Maybe Ciro is just making the best of treatment from a crummy family. He certainly doesn't seem to have anything wrong with him. Not that there aren't some exceptionally talented people who do have mental problems.
 

I was wondering what was 'wrong' with Ciro. He does not seem to be crazy..... Not even in a mad scientist kind of way. Maybe they combined that into a nursing home too.

Ericka should have felt the sting of pain in her eyes and lips, but he shock of how she was brutalized was too much for her. I guess she did not realize the extent she was hurt upon gazing at her reflection in the mirror.

I'm glad Camilo did not decide to whip his very beautiful newly wed younger sister. He outranks but she was able to shut him up. Perhaps Jacinto will get his venganza when he gets to whip Camilo back. If I was Eduardo, I'd break Camilo's jaw and ribs.

Hombre, maybe you can repost you version of the Manana theme song. Congratulations again to your daughter's wedding.

Ibarramedia
 

Excellent recap Cheryl. So I wonder how long it will be before we find out who the shadow man is. I hope this doesn't drag out until the final show. So Nanda is putting the pieces together about Eddie. It seems like Eddie didn't really think out that when you lie it escalates to more lies and he has to keep all his lies intact or it'll blow up in his face. I think Aurora found her mother and it's none other than Babs. Camilho needs to be treated to the the same whipping he gave to Jacinto and Erika. Jacinto was trembling with fear when he was about to be whipped thankfully Nanda stopped him. So what will Nanda say to Eddie/Franco at the gas station. Will Lil ever get out of that asylum?
 

What would Camil-ho have done if Jacinto grabbed the whip out of his hand as he was striking? Besides the obvious of firing him of course.
 

I know what I would say to Franco at the gas station: "hey, what's the big idea with your company wanting to see my new husband in NY the day after our wedding? What is wrong with you people? By the way, you look really familiar, I think it's around the eyebrows..."

Ibarramedia, the guy who plays Damian was a cell phone abuser in Heridas de Amor and in Destilando Amor. I don't know if he was smashing phones before that, but by the end of DA it was downright comical, I think he flung his phone at the end of pretty much every conversation.
 

Re: Camil-ho/ Jacinto, Jacinto will not revenge his mistreatment by C. He is too noble, I predict that he will actually somehow save him at some point.
I'm also predicting that Eddy will somehow be the saviour of this whole dysfunctional mess of a family and business. I've thought that from the outset.
Someone asked about BOW having killed her folks. That came up in the first episode in the first conversation between Cigarman and BOW. Her referred to that murder as a recommnedation for the Elizalde job.
Someone else asked about our contant referring to cell phones and Damian. It comes from the Desilando Amor, where Sergio Sendel, (who plays Damian) would have a temper flare a coupkle times a week, and smask either a cell phone, or a cordless phone. Sendel is teasing us here in MEPS.
 

I didn't see those shows but I noted the tease when he threw his suitcase in the car and I was giggling when he roughly laid his lap top in there.

Maybe he'll throw Barb down for the next body work session?
 

I thought I saw some comment about Eduardo showing up. I don't think he can show up. He's already said at the wedding, with the whole family there, that he's Franco Santoro. Unless he gets an imposter to play Eduardo, he's going to be a no-show at Fernanda's planned big funeral for Soledad.
 

Hi folks,
Maybe if everyone on Caray clicks below and sends a complaint, we can get decent closed captions again.


http://www.univision.net/corp/es/contact.jsp?null
 

Also, maybe Jacinto is noble with self restraint - but I'm not! ...and this is fiction so I'm letting myself have free reign.
 

I would have snatched the whip and whopped Oompa Lumpa right in his snotty face. (I feel much better now.) :-} Maybe Fr/Ed is going to incorporate Nanda into his plan somehow and work with her.
 

I say take Fernanda away when this is all said and done and leave that miserable family to their own devices and destruction. Oh i'll take Babs too. :)

Ibarramedia
 

Man, I don't know why I want to defend Eduardo's "cinturon" remark. I'm being silly. But here goes:

First of all, no, Ericka is not a child but she's obviously still in a confused, dazed state of mind. So reminding her about the seat belt was just an expression of his continuing protection of her.

And I guess because my father, who was in a business where they learned about the importance of seatbelts early on (back in the early fifties) always insisted, (gently as was his fashion) that we wear them because of the crash films he had seen. So I always see that as caring and protective, not patronizing. BUT....always willing to recognize individual differences and perspectives.

And loved your remark about dissing your mama as being an "express ticket" to punishment, Julie...You DO have a way with words.
 

Thanks Cheryl for your reply. I perfectly understand your point of view. As someone who stayed in an abusive relationship far too long, I had my share of physical and emotional scars. I stayed because he had convinced my that I was ugly and that no other man would want me. Anyway, thanks for allowing a mature exchange.
 

For some of us the recaps are more important than ever due to the messed up captions. So a heartfelt thanks to recappers in general and Cheryl for the latest. TV and Novelas rates MEPS numero uno. Cuidado con el angel is in second place and Las tontas no van al cielo third. For those of you who like Carlos de la Mota, there a couple articles and picture of him. Will someone please tell me what CAD means (as in Cadmilho). I'm sure it's like jerk, or square or dud or one of the many other uncool names of my day. I need to know so that I can find humor in the nickname. My dictionary says Coronary artery disease and acronym for computer aided design (heh, heh).
 

Whew! Long day at work, just reading comments. Yo, Carlos! I can't take credit, somebody last week speculated that Babs might be Aurora's mother. That does seem like a real novelaesque thing to have happen. The whole theme of the call of the blood seems to be at play, the way they look at each other, it's like each recognizes something in the other.

I guess the immediate noviazgo thing is common but it's just so stupid, they just met! Why would anyone believe it, especially when Errorika was so public with her outrage and drunken rage over Camil-hos public dumping. Oh well, I guess I understand what beanies are for!

And just a side thought: I think they might have made Dr. Matamentes gay because if he were hetero, being unethical as he is he would also be sexually abusing Lil and that's a complication they just didn't want to be bothered with.

Khalilah
 

Alice, a "cad" is a man who behaves dishonorably or irresponsibly to a woman. For me, it has a 19th century, fusty feel to it. I think of ladies in corsets being led astray by "cads" or "bounders". However it is perfect for Cadmillo!
 

I had a friend once whose husband would come home drunk and smack her around. One night he came home and passed out. Somehow she was able to get him tied to the kitchen chair. When he woke up he was tied to the chair with his hand taped to the table and she was holding a butcher knife over his hand. She told him that each time he fell asleep she was going to cut off one finger. Thus my comment about having to sleep sometime!

On a little lighter note, my nail school teacher also had a husband who would come home drunk. She was in nail school at the time and since she didnt' have anyone to practice on every time he passed out he would wake up in the morning with a brand spanking new set of acrylic nails. Sometimes with polish sometimes not!
 

Thanks Judy for explaining CAD. That fits Camilo to a T.
A.
 

To those of you who think that Erika and Ed team up would be unbelievable to others, haven't you ever heard of love on the rebound? It happens to a lot of people. In fact, her friends would be happy she found herself someone so fast.
 

Alice, I'm pretty sure TV y Novelas magazine is some kind of wholly owned subsidiary of either Univision or Televisa. Funny how Telemundo or Caracol telenovelas never make their top novelas lists.
 

"not just a hothead- I googled Aleida Nunez-the actress playing 'Denia- smokin! hot!)" HAHAHHAHAHAH!

Dorado Dave, Carlos, Hombre and any other guys, I LOVE hearing y'all gush over a hot actress, I'm happy y'all gets yer eye candy, too! Right on! (I do prefer to use the suffix -ess sometimes!)

Khalilah
 

I would consider it ill-mannered to let a woman pull/push/carry etc. anything for me, which I (a man) could easily do for myself. Even though she is fully capable of doing it, common sense says I should move my own luggage. I would consider it polite for me to offer to carry hers. Enjoyed seeing frustrated Damian toss the luggage in the back of the car.
 

Re Jacinto trembling: I think he was trying to restrain his rage and natural human urge to defend himself. .yeah, man, the writers do have the rich folk acting like overseers and the employees like slaves: I know my man needs a paycheck but damn! Jacinto needs to meet los hermanos Reyes!

And Judy. Honey. If a man that fine told me in a deep, hushed yet audible and insistent tone to put on my seat belt?....Girrrrlllll! Nothin' patronizing in that! Yeah, cold shower time.
 

ooops. That was Khalilah
 

Erika just wants to bust Camilo's balls (literally would be fine). Natasha is out of commssion, so Camilo being the sleaze bag he is will probably make a play for Erika. He thinks he is sooo irresistible. Then here comes our principe azul, making Camilo angry, duck Erika!

I remember the maid telling Erika that a present was coming for her, from Camilo maybe?

I'll probably watch on you-tube.

Variopinta
 

Many years ago, I worked in a mental hospital. First time visitors always thought there was absolutely nothing wrong with the patients, and some young law students wanted to get everybody released because they were obviously being held against their will. But of course, the patients had many problems, and could not function in the outside world. Not that the show in any way reflects reality, but Ciro might have severe mental problems that are not apparent to us in the short glimpses we get. Or maybe his family was too loud, and he just needed a quiet place to play chess! :)

Ibarramedia requested that I repost my version of the MEPS song. I wrote a version for my daughter's wedding, in which the music is the MEPS theme, but the words are my expression of love to my daughter and her new husband. Here it is:

Amor es Para Siempre
 

Wow~~~After a looong day of packing up mi suegra's possessions , I had time to read all the interesting comments. Now, I am fantasizing about watching Fr/Ed in my rearview mirror as he sidles up to my car. And having been thrown out of the car when I was involved in a car accident at the age of 16, I am voting yes for Fr/Ed's reminder to Error as caring and protective. Also, I am loving Fr/Ed's many names, especially Ricky McPirateson and Hotty Hot Hotty....How about a combo...Hottie Mc Pirateson. I agree that Lucero is not really good at portraying passionate passion. She looks a little stiff and uncomfortable as she frantically twists and turns . I remember Carlos referring to Barb and Dam's first car-coupling escapade as ''ferrets mating.'' The scenes that are supposed to look erotic and hot always seem like lots of moving and heaving signifying nothing . Slooow it down. I think we need Fernando C. to show us how a proper love scene should be done. [Just check out those hottyhot love scenes from Amor Real [woweewow] and Alborada. In Amor Real, Manuel and Matilde were always in the bathtub or the canopied bed. Also, outdoor picnic lovemaking scenes were big in Amor Real. I've never seen so many love scenes in a novela.] hmmmm...Now where was I ???
 

AbFab recap. Especially since I had to watch Youtube's version without the captions and missed a few things.
 

Hey Ibarramedia, what was Eco Moda? I followed your reference but they don't really have a home page that explains what it is all about, just episodes of a story. I am guessing it was a telenovela but where and when. It must predate my time haunting the telenovela programs and internet sites.

Pirate Babe, I think somehow Cigarman is a relative of Gonzolo's. they had some type of terrible falling out so Ciggie wants deep revenge. Soledad was around because they said she was the only one who remembered who he was. Perhaps Gonzo thinks he is dead or just can't think to clearly about any of his past (present either it seems) Ciggie really wanted Soledad out of the picture but keeping her in a little cottage for 15 years and breaking her heart by making her remains separated from her only and much beloved son just makes me want to put another layer of aluminum foil in my beanie.

We also don't really know what he has on Barbara that keeps her at his beck and call or why she would have murdered her parents, was he involved in that too or did he just admire her cold heartedness in being able to off Mama and Papa??? So many questions. But we have until October to figure this out. And I don't think Ciggie will disappear anytime soon, neither will Barbara which should be of some cheer to those of us who just like seeing her.
 

Wow~~~Hombre de Misterioso~~~Was that you singing and playing the guitar ? Did you sing that song at the reception ? If so, I am certain that there was not a dry eye in the house. What a lovely thing to do for your daughter and her new hubby. I'll bet that you are a great dad and will be a wonderful suegro. Thanks for sharing .
 

I just had a GREAT idea : When Fr/Ed tells you to buckle up that old seatbelt, the smart answer is : ''Gee, I don't know how ....Could you help me ????''
 

Thank You for posting that Hombre de misterio. Cherylnewmex, Eco moda is the sequel of Yo Soy Betty LA fea. I just stumbled upon that while googling something about Patricia the sexy but incompetent second secretary of Armando (Betty is the first) who is the president of Eco Moda. I never saw it's initial run but i'm watching it after Meps. I wonder why Columbians call their bosses Doctor or Doctora even if they are not doctors.... Oh well.

Ibarramedia
 

Regarding EcoModa, think of all those times, after a great novela's finale, you miss the show so much that you wish they'd do a sequel so you could find out what happens next.

Well, EcoModa taught us, be careful what you wish for. While Yo Soy Betty, La Fea was one of the best novelas ever, EM was awful. I only could endure about 10 episodes just skimming through them. Considering what a Fea fan I am, that says something.
 

Hombre, what a beautiful gift to your daughter and new son in law!
 

Hombre, beautiful rendition of the MEPS song! I hope my (someday) son-in-law will be worthy of such a loving effort!

"I just had a GREAT idea : When Fr/Ed tells you to buckle up that old seatbelt, the smart answer is : ''Gee, I don't know how ....Could you help me ????''" Susanlynn! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Also, Susanlynn, several people have noticed Babs "love" scenes. To me, her smiling wide-eyed tango is creepy. You ever happen up on someone sound asleep with their eyes open? I don't know about you, but that is damn creepy to me. Maybe that's the vibe they're going for, not to mention how she so joyously and boldly consumes the forbidden fruit.

Maybe I should check to see if a new thread has been started!

Khalilah
 

re: Babs' love scenes . . . we've commented on how robotic she seems. Even my friend from Mexico City has said as much. Perhaps this is how a robot goes about the horizontal tango. I'm thinking it is part of the BOW persona.
 

Hi everybody. Where are we posting today?

I have a grammar question. How do you use the word Verguenza (shame). In English we say "to have (tener) shame" or "I'm ashamed." But in Spanish they use the word "dar" which is "to give." So how does that go then? Te doy verguenza (I give you shame)?
 

Regarding BOW's love scenes,I beginning to think it is
deliberate. It is just another job to her - a way of controlling men!

Liberate Lil

rsk
 

Connie...this question should probably be answered by a native speaker...or at least an experienced student rather than a novice like I am. BUT...here's what my dictionary says...Have you no shame?=¿es que no tienes vergüenza? shame on you!=¡deberia darte vergüenza! don't embarrass him= no lo hagas pasar vergüenza, and I felt embarrassed for him, her, them is "senti vergüenza ajena.
 

My mental responses to the seatbelt reminder: He cares...he's soft...I want to touch him...so smoothe lady-killer!...Do no harm with that charm...
 

Barb's "What's Love Got to Do With It" scenes strike me as in character. Her eyes ringed with black circles looking to me like the hyena while her smile tells she's enjoying something about the action. Could she be enjoying her secret knowledge that her partner is servicing her physical desire. Remember she insisted on performing sex with the groom before the wedding - in the bride's room. And she seems to be after something other than physical intimacy.
 

Bonney Churros...EXACTLY the same song (Tina Turner) was going through my mind while thinking about those scenes. Too right.
 

Thanks JudyB. I get so hung up on stuff like that. Spanish just does't translate like it should sometimes.
 

We are supposed to get a big snow storm tomorrow. So much for working outside again. More sewing!
 

Gee, 3 days without a MEPS fix. Let's hope we don't have too severe a withdrawal. Judy, I mentioned that Ramona was my 1st TN. Here is a little clip that may give a hint of why it pulled a guy with minimal Spanish skills into it's web: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLLlshAB3d0 (I tried to link to it but it didn't work.) I had no CCs(I'm not even sure they were available then). I did have a well-used rewind button, normal hearing(unlike now), and a trusty English/Spanish Dictionary. And of course all of those beautiful people to look at. It was my 1st exposure to Sergio Sendel, and his chilling portrayal of a frontier sheriff gave me a whole new reference of evil. It was also the only TN I've ever seen that actually snuffed the main galan. They don't make shows like this anymore.

By the way, both the Baylor and OSU girlies are still alive.

Carlos
 

Wow, Carlos, Gracias! How long ago was this? I recognize a lot of the actors and they look pretty much like they do now! Man! That was a hot brave on there! I think I'll You-Tube that! Don't tell anymore of what happened! Thanks!

Khalilah
 

Carlos, Thanks for the Ramona youtube. I looked it up on IMDB and was amazed at how many actors are in it that we already know and love. Too bad the hottie Palomo died so young. This looks like an interestng story just seeing the brief tribute.
 

Ditto on Ramona - I wonder if there's any chance Univision will rerun it in the late night slot? I have a feeling I'd enjoy watching the whole thing.

I hope there's another historical novela (a good one!) in the near future.
 

I like the historical novelas best. Does anyone know if Carla Estrada is working on a new novela ?
 

Carlos, I watched the first episode on youtube and was fascinated. Noticed Helena Rojo also, playing a non-likeable role. She is certainly a veteran.

So sorry about the hearing problems which I assume are recent. My husband is getting somewhat hard of hearing and I think it's related to his heart problems (you know, that old Dr. Judy thing goin' on).

But on the plus side, amigo, yes!!! the Baylor women and the OSU women are still in it. However Stanford (our opponent) is coached by a former OSU coach) and she is out to whip our butts big-time!

Will be rooting for your gals, believe me...and ours as well.
 

Hombre de Misterio, Thanks for sharing your beautiful tribute to your daughter. What a wonderful Father you are.
 

Ramona is a good novela. I just checked out the youtube link. I wished the had dvds available for thjat and Zorro. I'm also checking out La traicion. I'm a history buff and i love wathing period stuff as most probably know by now. Amor real and Alboarada are really well done. I wish I got to see the original run instead of just watching the dvds. You tube has improved in qualtiy but it is still not like watching it on tv.

Ibarramedia
 

Susanlynn, "I like the historical novelas best. Does anyone know if Carla Estrada is working on a new novela ?" Looking at the wikipedia link for MEPS, it says the TN coming on after MEPS is 'El Sortilegio'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortilegio

Carla Estrada is said to be the producer. Not much in Wiki about that TN at this time. It'll come out later this year.
And... no idea how true that information is. :-)
JeffMN
 

Here's what I found on Carla Estrada's next work, Sortilegio:
El Sortilegio (The Sortilege) is the tentative title of a Televisa produced Telenovela. It is a remake, of the Mexican soap operas, Tu o Nadie and Acapulco Cuerpo y Alma. El Sortilegio's cast remains unknown, however, the only actors confirmed for the series are Jacqueline Bracamontes, William Levy, , David Zepeda, Yolanda Andrade and Daniela Romo. Also it will have the appearances of Belinda and Ana Brenda Contreras under the production of renowned mexican telenovela producer, Carla Estrada. The telenovela is expected to debut in May 25, 2009.
 

It doesn't really say what it is about though.
 

I'm gratified by your responses to my reminisces over Ramona. My Latina pts. felt about Eduardo Palomo very much like you ladies do about FC. When we would discuss the show and him in particular, their eyes would glaze over and they would go all gooey and squishy on me. Since TNlandia is fond of remakes, perhaps they could redo Ramona (which was, by the way, based on a true character from history)using the actress playing Gardenia and FC. I'd watch.

Judy, I appreciate your concern over my hearing loss, but I'm afraid it was largely self-inflicted, what with Quail hunting as a a youth(we had 2 Irish Setters), working in chemical plants during my summers (Lubrizol while at BU and then Monsanto while at UTMB), sitting too close to the speakers at Willie Nelson and Jerry Jeff Walker concert, and a bit of SCUBA diving. Also, I have a perfectly serviceable pair of hearing aids that I don't use because they make women sound shrill(or should I say shriller?), so don't cry for me Argentina.

Good luck to OSU and BU!

Carlos
 

I hadn't paid much attention until to BOW and Damian until the last scene. She always kept pushing his face away from her. In all if was very odd. Not really sexy.

Love all the seatbelt comments. I would definitely be asking for help in buckleing up if he reminded me!

Yay OSU!
 

Cheryl, the other day you mentioned your study of Spanish literature, have you by chance read Detectives Salvages by Roberto Bolaño? My Profesora and I are currently reading it and are about 1/2 way through. I'm really enjoying the reading but so far it's sort of just ambling along sin rumbo. If you've read it, I love to hear your opinion. Also, we're looking for 2666 in the original Spanish. It seems to be out of print and the one available copy is very expensive. Have you by chance read that and what do you think of it? Thanks.

Carlos
 

Thanks for the information about Carla's new novela. I am hoping that it's historical, and of course that Fernando is in it and that Monica directs. I love Carla's historical novelas.
 

Is Pasion worth getting on DVD?
 

I am another person who loves the historical novelas best, and I respect Carla Estrada's work above anyone's. I'd so much like to meet her one day or just have a way to let her know how much I appreciate her work.

Ibrramedia, It's possible that one day they will re-run Alborada and Amor Real, late night maybe onTelemundo. Currently I am watching "Mariana de La Noche" and "Abrázame Muy Fuerte" on Telemundo. I saw both of them when they first aired on Univision but am enjoying seeing them again. I have both of these, plus Alborada and Amor Real on DVD, but it's good to see the whole series.

When I first began watching novelas I found it hard to reconcile the many roles that the same actors were playing in different productions. Now I look forward to seeing my favorites when they are announced for a new novela. Helena Rojo is an example of very versatile actor and I've seen her play snobs, killers, and soft sympathetic motherly types. She's great. It is for this reason that I'm happy to see that the actress playing Erika looks and acts quite different than how was she was in "Pásion."

I'm very excited about the new Estrada production, especially for William Levy and Daniela Roma. For some reason I can't warm up to Jackie Bracamonte in any role.

Perdóname a todos for the long post.
 

Connie, Pasion was definitely worth getting on DVD. If you like Amor Real and ALborada in dvd then you will like Pasion. The only thing is they don't have English sub titles there.

Ibarramedia
 

Wow Carlos, I was at the monthly Amigos de la Musica last week and discussing these very novels with a new friend, Pepy from Ecuador! So, no I have not read either Detectives Salvajes or 2666, but I can't wait to get into both. How wonderful that you have a profe to discuss this with, let's talk further for sure. Interestingly, Pepy said that 2666 is actually a better book in English or so he has heard from folks who have read both the Spanish and English versions. Apparently the translator (sorry don't have a name) is a fabulous writer too and actually improved the book. It would be fun to read both to compare.

The reading I am doing lately is Jorge Ramos, Regalo del Tiempo, letters to his children and for the class José Caldoso, Cartas Marruecas, letters in which the author poses as a Muslim from Morocco writing about his impressions of Spainish society to his old professor back at home with one Spaniard in the mix a total of 90 letters but we only read 3 of them. Age of Enlightenment viewpoints.
 

There is quite a bit of info on ''El Sortilegio'' but I can't read most of it. I did see that besides the actors and actressed that Cheryl listed , Gabriel Soto [Anslow from QE]will also be in the cast. So far the only one I'm excited about is Daniela Romo, and it looks like Levy will be the galan , so no Fernando. Boohoo. I think Carla and Fernando always make a great combination. Oh well, c'est la vie .
 

Carlos, glad the hearing loss is not related to hardening of the arteries. Quail-hunting probably accounted for a lot of it, by my guess. I have a student who hunts regularly and also goes to shooting ranges (and gun swaps etc.) and his hearing is very bad. Same for a friend who was in Vietnam.

And I'd hate to blame Willie Nelson for any of it! (Jerry Jeff Walker I don't know...but sounds like I should)... but I do like imagining you in your party hardy days.

The only book in original Spanish I've read is Paula by Isabel Allende. But I love reading John Grisham novels in Spanish. The one I'm reading now is El Rey de Pleitos (The King of Torts) and since it also concerns the pharnaceutical industry, it might interest you. Cheryl, I'll look up those books to see if the library has them, otherwise I'll check Amazon. com. Reading really intensifies the learning experience.

Squishy-eyed female patients, eh? Can't blame 'em. That fella was a hottie.
 

Judyb~~~I love Isabel Allende's novels . My daughter read Paula [in English] in college and brought it home to me, but I just couldn't read it...too sad.
 

Judy, Isnt' Paula Isabel Allende's book about losing her daughter. I haven't had the courage to read that but have read Spanish excerpts of other books and think she is a beautiful clear writer.

I am also reading parts of Carlos Fuentes' history of the new world, El Espejo Enterrado (The Buried Mirror). Talk about beautiful writing and what a deep thinker. This guy is brilliant. As you can see my list of Spanish books I intend to get to any day now is daunting.
 

Isn't Isabel Allende the author of the 2005 Zorro Novel? I just came across that name because I've been preocupied with Zorro lately.


Meanwhile enjoy this gem I found that shows Babs and Ruth 'Root' from Fuego. 2 hot villanous babes. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGYPxYWwyt4

Ibarramedia
 

Don't know about Zorro, Ibarramedia. But Cheryl, yes, Paula is about her daughter and her death. A neighbor gave it to me when I was first starting to study Spanish and I thought I couldn't possibly read it, but I could...though like Carlos and his first telenovela, I did so with a dictionary in my hand. But the story was so riveting I couldn't stop (even though of course my greatest fear is that something like that would happen to any of my children)

But since we're talking books, I can recommend another translation that is great in its colloquial style.... Come, Reza Ama (Eat Pray Love) by Elizabeth Gilbert. Quite an entertaining romp. Very easy to read.
 

Judy, I have read the original English version. I actually have so many books in original Spanish that I want to read that I don't read translations of books written in English. The time I broke that so called rule was in reading El Alquimista, Paolo Cuehlo in Spanish because I don't read Portuguese but I ddin't want to read it in English either. I just reviewed Brita by PC in the English translation with my book club. None of us particularly liked the book. It is so full of trite aphorisms, very disappointing since I had loved Alquimista so much.
 

Better late than never, Hombre. Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your Amor es Para Siempre. You are quite a good singer!

Cheryl, you are so right about Carlos Fuentes. He is a fabulous writer. We read Las Buenas Consciencias in my Spanish class and enjoyed it a lot.

My big unfinished project is reading One Hundred Years of Solitude in Spanish. The book just sits there making me feel guilty. I've read it twice in English.
 

JJ: what you read about Sortilegio mentioned Jaqueline Bracamontes as the lead or as part of the cast? It's just that I can't picture her as the lead, but I can't imagine she'd go for something less than a protagonic at this poin, but she is too old for the part, the lead should be at the most in her early twenties, and that's pushing it.

Acapulco, Cuerpo y Alma was awful, Patricia Manterola and Saul Lizaso are both pretty but horrible actors, and she was too old for the part too.

The only novela de época I've liked of Carla Estrada was Alondra, it was so good, and it's the only novela de época she has produced in wich the female lead had a geat character and it was focused on the things she had to go through that made her change and mature, there is a love triangle and both men are wonderful, the lead was Ana Colchero (Aimeé in Corazón Salvaje, she has retired now), she was very good, and the story was narrated by Diana Bracho wich gave her a unique feel for a telenovela.

Jarocha
 

I read Isabel Allende's "Paula" a few years ago and loved it. Yes, it is sad but it is a beautifully written book. I read the English translation, and found much of the book to be rather autobiographical on Isabel's life.
 

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