Friday, April 03, 2009

Manana Es Para Siempre, April 2, 2009, Cap. 33 - The Secret

First of all, somebody please post this to the sidebar. Thanks.

Secondly, I feel like I’m jumping out of a plane without a parachute since this is a totally YouTube version. I’m hoping I’ll have Univision working by next week. Anyway, I’m a caption junkie – so please feel free to fill in anywhere.

Lili is screaming for Ciro because Dr. Demented is going to give her Electroshock therapy. She screams and screams, and Dr. D says, Lili, you won’t feel any pain. Meanwhile Ciro, the mad scientist who is locked in his room, sets up what looks like a giant Molotov cocktail. While Dr. D and crew are working on Lili – Ciro sets off the bomb. Lucky Lili sets herself free. The asylum is in chaos. Ciro apparently blew himself out of the second floor window and is laid out on the grass below. Dr.D looks horrified. Smoke billows from the asylum. We hear heavenly music as a very confused Lili escapes.

Back at the office Fernanda is meeting with Gonzo, Damian, Anibal and Camilo (the Confederacy of Dunces) about Grupo Lactos, and Damian’s inability to seal the deal. Camilo jokes about the disaster of Damian’s trip and Gonzo tells him it is no joking matter. Gonzo puts it on Anibal to explain what happened– he gives all types of explanation, but really can’t explain it. Barb gloats to herself and notes how stupid Anibal is and what a silly thing Fernanda is because Fernanda still thinks she can go on with her project.

Lili, conveniently wearing a sweat suit, runs along the road.

Fernanda talks to Damian. What a pair of love birds – she’s in a strapless day number. Their chat ends with Damian talking about when they have children, a kiss goodbye, she gets on the elevator and he gets a strange look on his face. Has this marriage been consummated yet?

Anibal and Gonzo argue – Anibal says things are what they are, why am I to blame? He seems to always be the idiot and he’s tired of it. Gonzo wants solutions. Anibal says they need Franco Sontoro – he wants his help. They need another opportunity. Anibal winges that he’s the only one who really cares about the corporation. He also wants his sister’s help with PowerMilk and that Camilo needs to go to Franco Santoro’s house, too. Gonzo tells him to do it.

Barb and Damian talk about PowerMilk, but the most important thing she wants to talk about is Fernanda. El hijo de Soledad is about to arrive. So, what’s the big deal? Barb tells him it may be a threat to his marriage.

Erika and Nanda have a girl chat on the telephone. Erika has her hair wrapped in a towel and something smeared over her face. Erika tells her she has a new love and Fernanda wants to know where he came from. Erika says you’ll see Then Nanda asks her if she knows who has arrived. Nanda says Eduardo, and Erika is a little surprised. Nanda wants to see him face to face. Erika wants to know why Nanda wants to waste her time on such a bad dude as him? She wants to look him in the eyes to convince herself that such a sweet kid turned into such a cruel man.

Ed, from his car, is talking to Anibal. He mentions “buying” a beautiful horse. Anibal wants to know if Ed knows something and what he’s talking about. Ed says he has no idea. He’s had a complicated day. Anibal wants to see him as soon as possible (about his offer). Ed suggests they meet later – Anibal says of course. Ed wants to meet with Anibal and Camilo to let them know his decision. Anibal says he can count on that.

Anibal tells his secretary to call Camilo and tell him he needs to see him asap.

Damian meets with Barb and says what you’re saying is absurd. Apparently, the marriage hasn’t been consummated. She says make it happen today. She wants him to have control over Fernanda – and when Nanda is his, that’s going to happen. He says Nanda isn’t a woman who is easily manipulated. Barb mentions his weakness – it’s easier than you think. She has to get control over Fernanda because she thinks that Nanda is the only person who can cause her real problems. Damian says – what then – she says when the Elizaldes are ruined, they’ll have control of the company. For that reason they should not accept any help from Franco Santoro. Damian again says what then? She says, you and me – and they grab each other and mash faces in what looks like a painful kiss.

Santi is painting in his room when Aurora enters and slams the door and interrupts the flow of his creative juices. She’s got laundry – he tries to tell her she shouldn’t be doing this. She says it’s the least she can do cuz when she lived with Dominga she did laundry for the nuns and ironed. He keeps saying, here, no, but she goes on and on and then leaves.

Camilo goes to Anibal’s office where Anibal begins to tell him about meeting with Franco and what a jerk Camilo is and that he just uses the company for his pleasure. Camilo wants to know what do you expect, I’m a fun loving little pervert and this is what you get. They talk about the horse that Franco has and that he wants his support in giving his opinion about the animal he’s going to buy. Camilo wants to know who brought the animal. Anibal doesn’t know. Maybe from some contacts Santoro has in the U.S. In the end, Anibal wants Camilo’s help in fixing the mess that Damian made with PowerMilk. Camilo thinks this is funny. I’d like to wipe that smile off his face. Camilo is happy to meet with them this evening because he’ll have a good excuse not to appear at Fernanda’s dinner with Erika. They agree and Camilo exits laughing.

Prissy looks happy and says that today she’ll find out if she’s pregnant. She’ll wait a respectable period of time, but she can’t wait to tell everyone that she’s expecting a baby. She goes to her purse and looks for the fertility test results. Natch, she can’t find the envelope. But we know where it is. She searches frantically in the desk and other drawers. The maid enters with towels. Break

Back at the ranch Priscilla is still frantically searching for the fertility report, and she asks the maid if she saw a white envelope when she was making up her room. Prissy is beside herself. Of course the maid knows nothing, and Prissy thanks her. She thinks and thinks where can it be and then she has a flashback to Vlad’s place and the phone call when she reached for her cell and her purse flipped over. Dios mio, says she. Right you are, girlfriend. Vlad is also flashing back, with great pleasure.

At the asylum Dr. Demented realizes his goose is cooked if he doesn’t find Lili and sends the two male orderlies out to find her. He has a fake book with a flask in it. He reaches in, removes the flask and has a drink when Adolfina knocks on the door. He conceals the flask and talks to her. He questions her about what happened and realizes that there was no accident. The whole bombing thing was done by Ciro (who got the stuff from an “almacen”???) on purpose to allow Lili to escape.

At the hacienda Fernanda and the maid are setting the table for the big “Erika” dinner tonight. Enter Santiago, stage left.

Santiago says she’s preparing a banquet for a nightmare named Camilo Elizalde. Fernanda asks him where is his “esposa” and if he’s falling in love. He says that’s a good question.

Outside, Camilo drives up, sees Aurora, says hello and at her obvious nervousness tells her to relax. He circles her like a vulture. He claims to be as tender as a little son. He says, tell me something, how did a girl as pretty as this rose end up with a jerk like Santiago. She says he is the most dear man in the whole world which sends Camilo, the jackal, into paroxysms of laughter.

Fernanda is still supervising the table setting. They forgot the flowers. She and Santi start talking about Eduardo. Santi thinks Ed has good reason to visit. She still doesn’t think he has ever given her a second thought and asks Santi do you know how many letters I wrote to him that he never answered. Santi is not giving up and says, go ahead look him in the eyes and ask your questions. Aurora enters looking unhappy. Camilo has followed her and says Santiago, your girlfriend. Learn about your little girlfriend. You’re in danger of losing such a beautiful woman if you leave her alone. The sleaze ball walks out laughing. Aurora looks sadly at Santi.

Ed/Franco is sneaking into Adolfina’s office. She walks in and goes into shock when he says “Buenos tardes.”

Erika is talking to her father on the phone. She thanks him for the gift – he tells her it was the best. Mama wants to talk to her – Erika tells her all is well. Mommy passes on the good word that after the Congreso, they are going to Paris. Mommy asks her about Fernanda’s wedding and Erika flashes back to seeing Camilo with Natasha and being beaten up by him. Erika lies and tells her mother it was a lot of fun and that it was all very pretty. Daddy sends his regards to Gonzo and all the family. Erika says she’s going to the Elizalde’s this very night. Mom asks if she’s going to see Camilo and Erika says no, mom, I’m going to introduce my new boyfriend. Mom is surprised.

Ed is asking Adolfina about Lili. Adolfina tells him about the bomb and that Lili is gone. That she took advantage of the confusion to escape. Lili is gone.

Ed wants to know if she’s sure. Adolfina assures him that they’ve looked for Lili everywhere and that she thinks the whole purpose of the bomb was to allow Lili to escape. Adolfina wants him to leave, but he keeps questioning him and tells him that Ciro treated Lili like his own daughter. She says he has to leave. Lili wasn’t supposed to have visitors – so he’s got to leave or else she’ll get in trouble. He says, one more thing. Does the Elizalde family know. She says not yet because if the family finds out, everyone who works at the asylum will be in big trouble. Ed writes something on a paper that he gives to Adolfina.

Lili is wandering on a road. A big truck comes by and beeps at her. She obviously hasn’t been in traffic for a while.

Prissy visits Vlad – what a surprise to see you he says. I came ‘cause I’m lonely. He asks her if she wants a drink. She starts looking around for the paper while his back is turned. He smiles his Cheshire cat smile at her. She says, Vladmir, we have to talk.

Ed is at a hospital, stops a nurse and asks where is the room of Ciro Palafox? She says he can’t have visitors and that he is very bad. He’s talking about Liliana – his wife or daughter. Ed pretends to be a doctor. She asks him if he’s Dr. Obregon. He says, “yes.” He calls the nurse “senorita” and she gives him a smile and her name. Sofia – he says, I’d like to see Ciro – she says with great pleasure, takes his hand and leads him down the hall.


Prissy and Vlad discuss their relationship. She says there could never be anything between them. He says you deserve a man who loves and cares for you, like me. She wants out gracefully, but, Vlad isn’t willing to forget so fast. She says she can’t see him anymore. He’s never seen a woman like her. She pulls away and looks puzzled.

Dr. Demented enters the hospital and is stopped by a guard. He wants to see a patient in intensive care. The guard asks if he’s a doctor. He says yes and pulls out his ID. The guard lets him pass. Meanwhile Ed is being suited up by a nurse – germs, you know. Sofia notices his biceps and triceps. What a flirt. He even gets a hat and mask and gloves. Looks like he’s going to operate. The other nurse leads him in. Sofia says she couldn’t ask for a more handsome doctor.

Ed, the imposter, enters Ciro’s room. He says he understands that Sr. Palafox is conscious. The new nurse tells him he’s sleeping now and hands him Ciro’s chart and offers him any help he might need. Ed gets down by Ciro and says, Ciro, its Eduardo Suarez, enemigo of the Elizaldes. Ciro opens his eyes. Dr. Demented now arrives at intensive care while Ed asks Ciro if he know about Lili. Ciro says, “si.” Ciro says something unintelligible. Ed keeps asking, where is she?

Lili has arrived at some town and takes a break. Ciro says not important and calls her mi hija. Ed says everyone is looking for her. Ciro says look in my pants. Ed pushes the button for the nurse.

Dr. Demented is told he needs a pass to enter and that somebody else is visiting Ciro now and Dr. D wants more information. Somebody is visiting my patient, Ciro, now? She answers the phone to what is obviously a personal call. Ed tells the nurse that he needs Ciro’s pants while Dr. D insists that the nurse tell him who is visiting Ciro – she can’t tell him. Ed looks at the stuff the nurse brought in and Ciro says he’s tired of it all. Ed goes through Ciro’s pants, finds the white pawn/queen??? and reads the paper. He’s shocked. We can tell by the look in his eyes. He realizes his mother wrote it. Ed now knows The Secret.

Ciro talks to Ed and says that the bomb was necessary to free Liliana and that this will also be his liberation. Meanwhile Ciro’s vitals are declining. Ed calls out to Ciro. Dr. D is having fits of anxiety. Nurse tells nurse Sofia that Dr. D wants to see the patient. Sofia asks him if he’s a doctor. Dr. D says he’s not just any doctor, he’s the patient’s doctor. She tells him the doctor is already there. Dr. D is getting more agitated. That’s impossible – is he in there. Sofia says just a minute – remember the biceps and triceps? Dr. D yells I’m Ciro’s doctor, me, me. He’s my responsibility. She says wait, wait.

Ed says Ciro, wait, wait. Meanwhile Nurse Sofia tells Dr. D to stop, stop; he can’t enter. Dr. Demented pulls his ID out. Sofia apologizes and says she couldn’t imagine such a thing. Ed hears the commotion.

Ciro flatlines.
Avances – Prissy finds out she’s pregnant. Is Lili at the mud wrestling hut? Barb meets with Aurora. Nanda wants to know the name of the “galan” accompanying Erika

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It's posted now, Pasofino. So sorry you're having to rely on youtube. I find the sound quality on youtube very poor. You have all my sympathy!
 

Thanks, Pasofino~~~I fell asleep and only caught the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes , so I especially appreciated your recap today.
 

Now that I've had a chance to read the recap, must tell you I LOVE the word "whinges". I'm always coming across it in Brit books but never knew how it was pronounced until I had an English student in class one session. Great word.

It was a delightfully cheesy episode complete with flask hidden in hollow book, Eduardo getting in to see Ciro on the strength of his good lucks and great muscle definition and Liliana running for miles amidst looming menacing trucks. Melodrama here we come!

Glad to know the marriage hasn't been consummated. How long can the writers keep on with that tease?
 

JudyB: Thanks a million. My husband was from New Zealand, and "whinges" was a word he used a lot.
 

Well done Pasafino, and though I'm not the expert, absolutely accurate. Thanks.

Thur. is my afternoon off and I was discussing this show with massage therapist (purely therapeutic) who is a horselady. I described Salaroso's curious little hat to her and she asked if he was a tall horse and had just been unloaded from a horse trailer. The hat is to protect the head of tall horses that toss their heads a lot from the roof of the trailer. Makes sense to me. I wasn't sure if that had ever been cleared up. Also I started describing Capricho to her and she finished the description for me. Turns out he is breed called Fiersien(hoping I spelled that right). She said that Salaroso(based again on my description) is likely an Andalusian.

I just love this show. Eddie posing as a Dr. was a howl. Nurse Sofia( Sofia in Spanish must mean pretty but slow-witted) was blinded by Eddie's beauty(as I guess are many others) because there is one thing every Dr. regardless of specialty learns as a junior student on surgical rotation is to slip deftly into a latex glove offered up by a nurse. It's a matter of pride.

Carlos
 

Thank you pasofino for your recap. I couldn't record this episode and will hope to have time to watch the YouTube version also.

OMG, I guessed right on the world's largest molotov cocktail! I can't believe it. Que lastima, too, that we have lost our dear Ciro. He soldiered on and sacrified himself for Lili's freedom. Run, Lili, run!

I think the role of Cadmilo has been cast perfectly. Palazuelos' face is perfect....all pouty, spoiled, and self-absorbed looking. ;-)

JudyB or pasofino - I've read that word "whinge" a lot in Brit lit. also. Is it pronounced with the soft 'g' sound?
 

Yes, soft "g" at least according to my student. And what I wondered was....is it long "i" as in our equivalent word "whine" or short "i" as in our word "win"? She said "short i".

Don't know if the New Zealand pronunciation is different. At any rate, great word.
 

About that very interessting language discussion from yesterday. I've learned in some education classes that I've taken that brains work differently and thus people have different learning styles. For example, I am not a good audio learner, so if you're explaining something to me , I have to take notes because just listening will not get the concept into my brain. I am a visual learner, so if one of my students tells me a word in his language , it helps me to pronounce it if I can see the word. I usually suggest to my students that it's a good idea to use as many senses as they can to get words and ideas into the brain. For example, when they are trying to learn the irregular verbs in English , I suggest that they write them and say them outloud [drink-drank-drunk]. We always teach words in context using interesting articles rather than just giving people a list of vocabulary words to memorize. I always say that if I have an interesting reading , I can teach everything--pronunciation, listening comprehension, vocabulary, grammar, punctuation,verb tenses,etc.] There are 12 verb tenses in English : present, present progressive, past, past progressive, present perfect, present perfect progressive, past perfect, past perfect progressive, future, future progressive, future perfect , and future perfect progressive] . And that is exactly the order that I teach them in. Jarocha~~My daughter lives in Toronto, and I know that Canada has excellent ESL schools. A few summers ago, I privately tutored a Chinese computer programmer who worked for a Canadian company here in PA. via an Canadian ESL school. That was interesting. One more thing, different cultures have different ways to teach. For example, my Asian students are ususally better at reading, writing, and memorizing, while my Spanishspeaking students are oftenbetter at speaking and listening comprehension. Some people definitely have a gift for picking up languagese easliy...especially the listening/speaking aspect...I don't....probably because I am not a good audio learner. I don't even like using the telephone with English speakers...I prefer face to face.
 

Thank you Pasofino. And thank you Carlos for the information about the horse's cute hat. I think the horse should wear it like an accessory, in colors maybe a flower.

Also cute was the nurse's willingness to accept Fr/Ed's inefficent inpersonation of a doctor! And the real doctor Demented being 'carded'.

I knew that Lili would not be prepared to re-enter on her own but did it have to be the cliche mental-patient-wondering-on-highway. At this point I can foresee Lili NOT being found by Fr/Ed or the Wrestling Marita/nurse. Cliche would be found by a no-good.

Again, thank you Pasofino, for going thru so much to give us this.
 

Well, having never been considered a cautious person, I'll weigh in briefly on the CCs as a crutch, distraction, hindrance, or what have you. When I finally yielded to intense pressure from those who love me (huh worked just fine keeping me in the loop) and went to have hearing evaluated, I was taken aback by a simple test performed by the technician while I was in the box. He had me repeat several words or phrases while looking at me and then repeated the test with his mouth covered. I did fairly well the first time around but was lost the second go round. The CCs serve a similar purpose for me, by cluing me in on the parts that my faulty hearing may omit. I submit that one can watch with CCs without sacrificing attention to whats going on onthe screen.

Carlos
 

Boy, was I surprised that the writers let Eduardo read the letter this early in the telenovela. I guess they have plans for him knowing this info this early, though. Now the question becomes will he burn it or keep it? If he keeps it, telenovela commandment no 14 is that somebody (Gardenia?) will find it. Giving his phone number to the nurse without telling her who to ask for may turn out to be a mistake???

Is now when Lili will either run into a kind soul / or a mean soul - and then run into her own boyfriend who will protect her? I haven't seen a boyfriend in the cast credits, which gives me some cause for concern whether she will ever get a boyfriend.

Another point about learning languages - an infant comes from the point of learning his/her first language at the same time as acquiring knowledge. An adult already has a certain amount of knowledge - and to some extent, is looking to place "tags" of the second language on already existing knowledge in the brain.

While we're on the subject, although not directly related to Univision - when I started learning Spanish over 5 years ago, one could elect to hear a SAP audio channel. Almost all paid movie channels (HBO, Showtime) and maybe half of cable channels (ie USA, TNT, etc) used Spanish audito on the SAP audio track. The major networks usually used "narrative" English for sight-disabled English speakers. Anyways, now with the conversion to digital and HD, I find very few channels that have Spanish on the SAP audio channel (Using Time Warner), even when they advertise that they do. This is quite disappointing, but at least I have a pretty good DVD Collection with Spanish audio and subtitles.
 

I was shocked that Freduardo didn't try to get help for Ciro when the monitors were going off so wildly. On the other hand, at least the poor dear man was spared spending his last moments with Dr. Doom.
 

Thank you for the recap Pasofino. What an action packed episode!

Poor Ciro. He gave up his life so Lili could be free. I still want to know how he survived being blasted out the window and landing on the grass.

Whenever Cadmil-Ho opens his mouth all I can hear is the Oompa Loompa song! Maybe we could make up some new lyrics to the song. Hmmmm.... Aurora clearly can't stand him.
 

Terrific recap as usual, Pasofina. Thanks.

Did the hour fly because of the explosion and Lili's escape or because we had so much F C airtime? Anyway, it was a fast enjoyable episode.

So Dr. Demented may have an alcohol problem...has Babs driven him to drink. The nurse taking a personal call and putting Dr. D off at the hospital was a riot. So true and irritating. Everytime I go to one particular store, the employees are always on the phone making personal calls and ignoring the customers who are waiting to be helped.

When will we learn the Secret that wide eyed Freduardo learned. I hope it's before the final episode.

Pris better be nice to Babydaddy Vlad or she's in for lot of trouble. GinCA
 

Silverfox, I am with you! After the months of waiting for the stupid box to get opened on FELS, I couldn't believe Fr/Ed was reading the letter! Yay! This show does have a nice pace. Although get to the dinner party already!

I look at Cadmilho and I see a rat. He always pinches up his mouth and has small eyes and just looks like a freak'n rodent!

I did like Fr/Eds expression when the nurse was feeling him up. He looked quite bemused.
 

Carlos - well done as the horse detective! I think the general consensus was that Capricio was a Friesian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse . Saleroso's head is not angular enough to be an Arabian, and there are other physical aspects that convinced me he's not Arab but I cannot put my finger on it. I was obsessed with Arabians (the horses) when I was a young girl. Perhaps the Andalusians have some Arabian in the recipe? There was a guy in my Spanish class, years ago, who needed to learn Spanish because he bred Andalusians and was selling & buying to people in Spanish-speaking countries.

JudyB - I know ... I think "whinge" is perfect, as I imagine it is meant to sound like the sound some of our doors and windows make when the wind blows hard and from just-the-right-direction. Almost like a hair comb with paper over it... the fake harmonica.
 

If Ciro died, I say we can be sure Lil won't get recaptured by the assylum. He's no longer needed, so he's free to sacrifice his life for his "daughter."

Language learning.
A. English. Yes, the conjugations are MUCH easier. But because it's not inflected (like Spanish in which the conjugation tells you the usage), we rely VERY heavily on word order, and that can get very complicated. You NEED helping verbs for even the most simple sentences such as:
DID you eat? DOES he drive?
We can say "I need to sleep," but not, "I should to sleep."

The other hard part of English is spelling. How do you spell the long-E sound? SEVEN ways! "We happy chiefs receive these deep cleanings." The long-U sound? Seven ways. "A huge blue fruit moves new soup to the moon."

B. Captions. Everyone is different. If the CCs are on, I CAN'T watch the faces. I'm too distractable. I can't multitask.

C. Silverfox, good point about learning language on a blank slate vs learning when you already have one language in place. Another point is that after about 10 years old, we learn more by logic than by memorization. So a learning method perfect for young children can be a poor choice for a teen or adult.

D. Other than TNs and study dates with native speakers, my favorite study method is memorizing sentences from Resnick's "1001 Most Useful Spanish Words," $2.00. Mem'g sentences gives me vocabulary, grammar, and syntax, and I find that I retain a sentence better than a list of words. One good sentence can become a template for 20 more, by swapping vocabulary. When I memorize them, I can grab the vocab or sentence structure whenever I need it.

Along with that, I should hit grammar about once a week (should). The sentences and the grammar study complement each other.

I have some favorite books for learning grammar. Let me know if you want me to dig out the titles.
 

I think the difference between someone young (grade school and below) learning a language as compared to an adult is that the children are learning more from memorization. When an adult learns Spanish or any language they tend to think how they can apply it in their everyday lives and it makes more sense.
 

Run, Lili! Run like the wind!!

Ciro only just now flatlined, so maybe he's not lost to us yet. I hope they pull out the defibrillator. I want to hear what it sounds like when they yell "CLEAR!" en español.

Yes, I think the chesspiece was a queen, signifying that Lili the white pawn has been promoted with her escape! Either that or it was a king, signifying Eduardo, but they never talked about that before, so I don't think so. (It definitely wasn't a pawn - too tall.)
 

Gin, what do you mean that the good DR. Demented may have an alcohol problem?Are you saying that most Drs. don't have a flask hidden in a cut out compartment in a medical textbook?

Carlos
 

Did he read the letter out loud? I just remember him saying something about his mother writing the letter. Thank goodness we didn't have to wait forever.
 

And there is still another paper. Remember Ciro just found that one when he dropped the box and the bottom popped out. Was his room destroyed? My kids were fighting so I missed the first ten minutes. Must remember to tie them up sooner.
 

hello all, and great recap Pasofino
Now it all starts... I think Fr/
ed, now that he knows the content of the letter will work to help fernanda and Gonzo with their company and smash Babs and the rest for their cruelty to soledad.. Fr/Ed will turn and go the opposite way to help get rid of the babs and cad anibal since they are the villans......let's see
 

I can't tell you how glad I was that he read the letter! When he found it in the pocket, all I could picture was your typical telenovela device.
A. He stands there stunned for a few moments.
B. He starts to open it (just to tease us), wipes a tear from his eye, continues opening it, looks up and tells Ciro how eager he is to read it, looks down, continues opening it.
C. Just then Dr. Demented barges in and grabs the letter from his hands, before he has a chance to read it.
D. Then the letter goes hither and yon, and Fr/Ed doesn't see it again until two weeks before the finale.
 

Good thinking, Molly! Duct tape works great too! So there was the letter, and another piece of paper?
 

You got a very eventful episode to recap Pasofino and did your usual fabulous job. You missed nothing in detailing "the asylum is in chaos".

The comments already posted are far more informative and eloquent than anything I could add. Sincere thanks to Carlos, Susanlynn, JudyB, Silverfox and others for the insight and information you share with us. I am a faithful viewer of Tontas, Cuidado and Manana and your postings remind me why such time is so well spent. Diana in MA
 

PaulaH I was having the same thought and I was screaming at the TV READ IT!

The first paper was heavier and had just been laying right in the box and it was what Lili showed Ciro. Lili doesn't even know this one.

Connie I like the idea that it makes Fr/Ed change is path. Even if that is not effident to Nanda right away. And she has brought up the letters again, so those still have to see the light of day. We can have a nice music montage of both of them reading all the letter they wrote to each other over the years.
 

I can't wait for the dinner tonight. Does anyone really think that Cadmil-Ho is going to apologize? I'm hoping somebody slaps his lips off again.
 

Where's Coyote when you really need him!?
 

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I wish I could draw. I would draw a picture of Camilo watching in dismay as his lips fly across the room.

Unfortunately, they're going to have to stay attached for a while longer. He has only two lips, and so many more people who might need to slap them yet.
 

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Pasofino, thanks for the fine recap - I loved the "Confederacy of Dunces" perfecto!

Horses - the interesting thing I found about the Andalusian and Lipizzan breeds are that they are born black and their hair turns white as they mature but their skin remains black. Up close, it is easy to see.

rsk
 

rsk, wow, I didn't know that. When I was a child(centuries ago), our parents would take us to Pin Oak Stables, and later to the Colosseum(both in Houston) to see the Lipizzaners perform. I was always enthralled.

Carlos
 

Carlos, the correct spelling is Friesian if anyone wants to look it up.

rsk
 

I love all your comments about learning languages and the tricks that you use. Very interesting. I love languages - particularly Romance languages. I've helped a couple of Spanish speakers with English, and to me, English is far more difficult than Spanish.

Anyway, I'm glad Ed read the letter, too. And, thanks, Julie, for clearing up the matter of the chess piece. I couldn't figure it out, but obviously, it meant something - or was another message from Ciro.
 

Was I imagining/misinterpreting that Ciro also referred to something in the head of the chess piece? Could something be hidden there?
NJ Sue
 

I think it might be too small to hide something. But you never know.
 

NJSue, could Ciro have been directing Fr/Ed to find the chess board since we know he has all the money and stuff hidden in it? Maybe he wants to make sure Lili is taken care of.
 

Carlos, You must live in Texas. Both the Coliseum and Pin Oak Stable are both gone and have been for some time. The Coliseum was torn down and replaced with Wortham Center and that whole Theater District downtown. Pin Oak is now a Home Depot and I don't know what all on that beautiful piece of land. Thank goodness we still have Memorial Park and always will. Memorial Park is where the Polo Fields are.

When I see the ads for the Lipizzans I will let you know. I think I read somewhere that this will be their 39th US Tour.

rsk
 

Good thinking about the chesspieces being a clue to check out the chess set, Molly - except I doubt that the chess set survived the blast. :(

I also wondered if he had hidden things in the chess pieces. He had given Lili a pawn to keep, but why? Was it supposed to be a reminder of her role in this "chess game," or is there something in it, maybe a rolled-up piece of paper with some useful numbers, or a key? Or did he just give it to her because he's quirky?
 

Okay, thinking back a bit...

Ciro was upset, some weeks ago, when Dr. O threatened to take away his chess set.

Now, let's imagine that you're Ciro, getting ready to voluntarily commit yourself for whatever reason. Being a brilliant guy, not to mention quite handy, you decide to take some precautions, just in case things get ugly at the hospital.

So you make your own chess set. Maybe every single piece comes apart in some ingenious way so that you can hide something in each one that will help you escape if you need to.
 

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Good thinking Julie. We already know he had money in the bottom of the chess set. I would be surprised if it survived the blast though.
 

Julie, there is definitely something more to the chess set.

I agree that it doesn't seem like the board could servive the blast, but that fact that Ciro blew out the window with no debris around him at all, maybe the writers are taking artistic license. Otherwise Lili's box and the other piece of paper are gone too.

I appreciate that this one keeps moving and keeps us wondering, rather then just repeating itself over and over and a constant river of tears!
 

I wonder if it is the lack of a perpetual full moon that makes it move faster! :)
 

rsk, Thanks, yes, I grew up in Pasadena, and currently live near Magnolia. We used to go to horse shows at Pin Oak stables. It was an opportunity for us poor folks to rub elbows with the high society types. What elegance.

Not wishing to obsess over this too much, I feel compelled to share this You Tube clip with you guys, clearly our Capricho is a friesian horse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-yAmOlePQ#t=5m52s"

Carlos

Carlos
 

Very funny, Connie and Julie. I hope those Camilho lips fly out of the room and get stomped by all the horses he has abused. GinCa
 

I don't get a horse when I copy and past the link.
 

Connie, I miss the full moon! Have you noticed that the scenes at night when they show a window it always look like daylight outside. It can't be the moon because it is all of the rooms. I guess that the grounds are just well lit.

rsk
 

Sorry, corrected url for horsesD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9_yAm0IePQ#t=5m52s"
 

They are so magnificent and beautiful. I want one. Do you think my dogs would mind?! :}
 

RSK, I miss Juan climbing up the balcony.
 

No your dogs would love them! Fresians are supposed to be very easy going and loyal. They are even considered a good horse for children. I think they are wonderful!
 

I'm not sure if it would fit in my townhouse though Molly. I have always loved horses and would beg my parents to get me a horse but nooooooo. I even tried to get my grandpa to get one but since he used to have to farm with them he said no because he really disliked horses.
 

I had a Quarter Horse as a kid for a few years and a girl friend who raised and showed Arabians.

I love them, but I was never a super skilled rider. I just like hanging out with them. I always liked helping my friend dress the mane for shows.

Picabo, one of my dogs, love when the horses run on the cut to commericals on Manana, and she would always stop what she was doing to watch Capricho.
 

ESCAPO!!! Meee ooow Meee ooow.
Lili finally breaks free. At long last. But for the love of God, please run close to the shoulder and not on the main road itself. We don't need you plastered all over the road.

Let's see water or alcohol with foil rolled up in balls with a wick on the top have enough charge to blow up a hospital room. I dunno. **Scratches head**.

The love sick nurse was pitiful. Singing mananitas over the phone to a friend while there is an emergency. Eduardo/Franco is not that big at all. What beeeceps and treeceps is she talking about?
Eduardo/Franco probably indirectly caused Ciro to die sooner. Who knows he might have had a chance if given real treatment. At least the sacrifice won't be in vain. He got the important intel from Ciro in the form of Soledad's letter. RIP Ciro. You were a good man. Things will be heating up.


Ibarramedia
 

Pasofino, that was a very fine recap. The "confederacy of dunces" was both funny and accurate for our "A team."
Barbi's kiss did look painful, like a lamprey eel. Checking on habits of lamprey eels, I found this description by a fisherman: "fastening itself to the delicate fish by its mouth, which is simply an armed sucking disc with extraordinary adhesive power."
I was sorry to lose Ciro. Nice sacrifice, dude. We'll miss you.
So funny how Eduardo scammed the nurse and so good he was able to retrieve the letter.
Love the fast-paced action here. Go, Lili, and be safe.
La Paloma
 

He's not that big but he's cut.
 

I think Martha Stewart has Friesien horses. Just a little tidbit I thought I'd throw in to make your day.
 

He's working it just fine for me!
 

Thanks for the recap Pasofino. I wouldn't want to be using youtube to watch, let alone do a recap.
They definitely are handling the cofre different in this TN vs. some of the other recent one. Cofre been opened, contents removed, content read. What gives! :-)
Paula H, from your list: "C. Just then Dr. Demented barges in and grabs the letter from his hands, before he has a chance to read it". Hah, I would have liked to have seen Dr. Demented try that. I don't think our Fr/Ed would have let him have it. LOL
It was quite amazing how Fr/Ed made it all the way to the desk. He must have used his looks to get past that guard that stopped the good Dr, too. Quite the scene with the nurse feeling him up like that. :-)
Not sure about perpetual full moons here, but there are perpetual days. The wedding took forever and now this day is never ending. Of course, I don't think any TN will have a day like the one in LFMB. Can't remember what happened that day, but took a couple (3?) of weeks to run through. I think that must have been on a "24" clock. These days are starting to get close. I wonder if we will get to the dinner tonight or not? :-)
JeffMN
 

You're probably either thinking of the "day" they shot the underwear commercial with Pilar and the horse, or the "day" with all the suspense about the red bag. (Actually, those may even have been the same day.) Lety's birthday party was also extra-long. I think the reason for these elongated "days" was to build suspense, because people who had seen the original Betty La Fea were expecting certain things to happen afterwards. "Yes, Lety is going to go to bed with Fern after her birthday party... when it finally ends... please stand by... please stand by..."
 

Pasofino: Thanks for trooping along without the CC's. It was a great recap and I loved the "Dunces" reference. So true!

Well, whinges was a new one for me. !8 ? }

I'm eager to see how Eddie will get out of this predicament. I was screaming at the screen for him to leave already and I was wondering if he'll be charged with Ciro's death if he escapes by pretending to be a doc and then letting the old man die. Guess he couldn't very well scream for anybody cuz then he'd have to yelp out all those unknown medical-ese instructions and the jig would be up for sure.
 

HERETIC! Call out the Inquisition! "Eduardo/Franco is not that big at all. What beeeceps and treeceps is she talking about?" Cómo te atrevería decir tal cosa? (How dare you say such a thing?)

True, he doesn't look like a caricature of a gorilla like certain TN galans, but he certainly doesn't have to be afraid to take his shirt off in a crowded room. In fact, I think he should give a demonstration just to convince Ibarramedia. Tonight. Preferably in a bathtub. A nice looooong bath. All in favor?
 

Relax PaulaH. :) Don't burn me to the stake just yet. Methinks that Eduardo/Franco is about 175 pounds.
I just made that comment because I never thought him to be a big guy. Just a regular guy. I lift weights and i'm 255. Connie is a personal Trainer so she knows what she is talking about. :)

You ladies can have Franco, i'll have babs, Fernanda, Gardenia,Martina and Venus. ;)

Now we got that out of the way, You still have to think that Eduardo may have caused Ciro's earlier demise because he was neglected of having medical attention.

When Ericka introduces Franco Santoro as her boyfriend,Fernanda won't be able to hlep herself but be very intrigued by that. She was very intrigued by Franco already without knowing it is Eduardo....What do you all think?

Someone must take care of Lil. She does not have any money and she was institutionalized for 15 years and not used to the outside world. She cannot go a day without food and Drink.


Ibarramedia
 

Ibarramedia, I hope you realize that I tease a lot.

Julie, I'm surprised that you forgot the other Longest Day on LFMB - the board meeting of eternity. And I'm surprised that I forgot the long day of the horse commercial. But I think it's because it's a repressed memory; some sort of Post Traumatic Stress thing. You know I love all things Fea, even the things most people hate. But that horse commercial - it was like a cross-country car ride with your mother-in-law. Nunca acaba.
 

PaulaH I shall side with you! IMBD lists him at 6'1" if he is 175, that sounds like a just right size!

I have a young wrestler friend who is 6' and 175. Granted I would be a cradle robber, but he is a lovely young man!
 

Fr/Ed isn't big, but he would definitely be solid and he was quite well defined in the one scene where we saw him. He's been working out quite a bit since Pasion. :-) Hmmm, I think that may be the only time we'll see him like that. Sorry ladies. LOL
Paula, yes, I think it was the board meeting of eternity I was thinking of when I remembered the long day on LFMB. People were sitting around in board rooms.
I would like that dinner to be tonight. I want to see everyone's face when Erika and Fr/Ed show up.
From the previews last night, Fr/Ed was sitting at home with that paper at home, so it looks like he gets out easy enough. I was waiting for him to hit the buzzer and have the nurses come in and ask what to do now? Hard to say, perhaps he was premed at Harvard? Maybe we'll find out tonight. :-)
Watching Lili wandering around, I was waiting for her to run into some bad person. They always do when they are out on their own.
JeffMN
 

We'll miss Ciro, but imagine if he would have survived and Dr Demented had taken him back to the assylum. With Lil gone, Dr D would take out all his revenge, anger at failure, and general perversion on him, to his final breath. Better he die a hero, saving the one he loved. At least, better in telenovelaland.
 

Yeah, the day of the board meeting was long... but I don't think it was as long as the Pilar thing.

Or maybe the boardroom day didn't seem as long to me because I already knew about El Mar and Aldo and was NOT looking forward to it!

I agree, though, that the Days of MEPS are beginning to rival those of LFMB. But as long as they don't exceed 24 episodes per "day," it's theoretically okay. :-)
 

Thank you Pasofino for the wonderful recap. And thank you Judy for posting it.

"the Confederacy of Dunces" -- that's a good way of describing them.

"Has this marriage been consummated yet?" Nope - because Fernanda won't permit it.

"She wants to look him in the eyes to convince herself that such a sweet kid turned into such a cruel man." -- And I'm wondering the same thing about you, how a nice, sweet girl could turn into a cruel flirtatious BOW Jr? On second thought, don't answer that.

Eduardo Suarez -- actually his name is Eduardo Juarez.

white pawn/queen??? -- Actually I think that is the white king from Ciro's chess set.

Jody :)
 

Jody: Thanks for your comments. I couldn't figure out what chess piece Ed had in his hand. Some bloggers have conjectured that the chess set will take on a lot of importance in future chapters. I hadn't thought of that, but they could be correct.
 

NJ Sue thought she heard Ciro say something about the head... yes he did say head of the king and yes that is the king piece.

I bet the head comes off! But what's inside?? I hope it's a creamy caramel center!
 

(I didn't hear that the other night or get a good look at the chesspiece, but it was easier to see/hear last night.)
 

Does anyone have any idea what was in the papers Ciro had and Edwuard was reading?
 

The chess piece is a king with the cross on its head cut off. (must have broken) The queen piece has a roundish crown. I have a couple of chess sets and used to play when I was younger. I'm out of practice now. Here is a visual reference for non players:

http://www.thechesspiece.com/indian/chess_set_nouvelleW600.jpg

Ibarramedia
 

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