Thursday, January 14, 2010

Un Gancho - wed Jan 13 - a baby gone, a baby finds his daddy, and is it a baby ? Oh Baby!!

OK so I missed the first 25 minutes of this on the tele, but downloaded it. From reading the Doc’s hysterical Mon recap and the Judester's similarly hilarious recap on Tues it seems the downloads are slightly ahead of Univision. Well anyway, here goes…

My episode opened with Conster confronting the Mamonster (Mona’s that is) saying no way are you here - you should be dead. Doh!

Of course we immediately then switch to the Mama to beat all Mamas, she who nursed her son of 8 years, chatting with said son. She agrees to support the whole family thing, only for her grandson, but that damned flauta just irritates her. We get to the point. Beto wants to know who his papa is. He insists he has the right to know where his cravings for Milanesa etc come from. Nieves outs with el Pepillo. He is your pa, see you look exactly like him. Beto is impactado. Yeah, me too. Que the heck??


We go back to witch vs. bitch where Issy is telling Coni she’s mistaken. She runs off, Coni fronts the very nice Mercedes demanding to speak to her, and WOW Issy puts it in gear and rolls off knocking our pregger Coni to the ground. She screams of pain.


Beto muses the finer points of having a famous papa. He begs her to tell the truth. She doesn’t quite make a serious face when she swears to him it’s true. She grabs the baby doll and tells him they met in Acapulco, her sunning on the sand, and he came up to her. She outta be in pictures. He invited her to his hotel for a private casting…hum hum hum. She acts out how she ended up in his bed. Beto isn’t sure he needs these details. She never told him before because she was ashamed. He is excited his dad is a luminary.

Mau runs around the race track a bit.

Coni is in the hospital, she’s scared she’ll lose her baby. Ma consoles her. Doc shows up, it’s one of our favorite old guys. He confirms Coni loses her baby. Wow, didn’t see that coming I must admit.

Nieves and Cesar are chatting, he tries to cheer her up, she’s a bit blue. Beto shows up and wants her to look at his ear, that it’s the same as his Pa’s. He wants to go see his Papi, of course Nieves freaks out at this. She wonders how she is going to tell him this factoid. She does quite a dance to get him to give up this idea. He won’t, he has waited his whole life to call him “Papillo” JA!!JA!!

Nieves now wonders what she’ll do about this lie.

Back to the hospital and doc apologizes and leaves. Coni cries and wonders why this affects her so much. Ma tries to tell her she loves this man despite her saying he’s a naco. Coni thinks a little more and changes her tune, so maybe now this is the best thing that happened to her. She wants to know why that woman hid her death.

Next we see Alicia and Mona bringing flowers to said woman’s tomb. They chat silliness about silence and how Issy loved it for hours etc. They cry about missing her. Fools, TURN AROUND!!!! She’s right effin’ there. Oh for Pete’s sake…

Mau and Beto chat about who Beto’s Pa is. He won’t say, but he’s happy he knows. They also chat about how he knows that Mona knows he’s the Furia. They have a male moment when Beto finally maturely admits he and Mona care about each other, but like siblings. They also talk about how Coni should not know he’s the Furia until the divorce is final. Beto explains how he covered and Coni believed.

Uh oh, bad idea when school girls in skirts do bad pranks. Katia is bugging Aldo because he has seemed preoccupied lately. Uh, I’d say so. She keeps sweet talking him and finally he asks her for a favor, to take his sisters home from school because he has something important to do. She agrees but doesn’t like that he’s going to be with his girlfriend. We find out how much she dislikes this later...

The fighting group Cesar, Beto, and Furia discuss how Furia has to stay masked at least until the divorce. Cesar proposes they fight as a team, the Furia and the Vengador. Beto thinks this is a way he can tell the world who is his Pa, and that he will be as famous as him!! Mau reluctantly agrees to the fight despite him being worried he'll be found out.

Goofy guys attack Aldo and tell him to come over with Estre, that their parents are going to be gone. Aldo says he’s busy and doesn’t want to go with them, or even borrow their car. They goof around a bit when Katia comes up and spills the prank. She tells them : Aldo pays to sleep with Estre, she’s a street woman pure and simple. Oh and she knows where Estre lives. Oh bad school girl. Guess the evil gene runs thick in their DNA. Sigh.

Aldo goes to see Estre. He wants to know if she went to the farmacia. Of course she didn’t, she fears the whole barrio will learn if they go to the pharmacy around the corner. He offers to go far away for her and to come back. He’ll be with her no matter what happens with the results. He leaves, there is another knock and it’s our hormone overloaded teen boys looking for some trouble. Yikes.

Beto shows up at Coni’s all excited still from the news of his Pa. He tells he now knows who his Pa is and he’s famous etc. She isn’t sure Nieves is telling the truth. He notes she’s sad, but she doesn’t fess up. He then talks about what he learned from Mona that he has to let go of his past like she did with her Ma who died in peace. Coni tells him uh uh, wait a minute, that woman ain’t dead. He thinks she’s on crack.

Flash back to our over juiced juveniles pushing Estre to give it up - that they have heard so much about her so they want some too. She fights back, but they are two against one, and thinking with their other heads. Me thinks she will have a tough time of it. They brought money.

Coni insists she was face to face with Mona Ma. Beto says they were all in the hospital when she left this earth. She swears she saw her this close.

Estre is losing the battle. They keep throwing her on the bed.

Coni wonders who might have helped her, she thinks maybe it was Mau, he came with the ashes and no one ever saw the body. She starts piecing it together that one needs money to fake a death and so there must be something up. This could be something Mau is keeping from Mona and she likes the sound of that. Beto starts to come around to the idea, and Coni thinks maybe Alicia knows something, but she acts like she doesn’t. She sends him to see what he can recon about this. Please. He says goodbye to his now non-existent babe. Coni sort of tears in silence.

At the barrio, Ivan is with Tere who complains how he is washing his clothes. They chat about missing the kids. Ali and Mona walk up. Ali offers to help Tere unpack her things. Mona tells Ivan about going to visit the tomb.

And we are back to the boys holding down Estrella. She rips up their money and screams she is not a prostitute. They are not swayed, they are there to become men. Estre screams for Monita. And we end there. Hopefully something will interrupt this. Yuck.

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Hi Kris, "Judester" here. I'm with you. Yuk. Found this episode sooo disturbing. Everytime the action switched back to Estrella I had to leave the room.

I'm going to focus on other things.

Thanks for that link to Pepillo. What a suave looking guy. DEFINITELY Beto's dad. Yeah, right!

Did love the scene though where Nieves was making up that story out of whole cloth. She played it well. I really enjoy that actress.

Also liked the scene between Beto and Mau. Sebastien Rulli seemed to be cracking up. Especially when he pulled away from Beto and then Beto sniffed his armpit to see if that was the problem. Sebastian almost lost his composure there. Love it when actors do that.

As for the rest...bah! Humbug! if the extensions involve this kind of stuff I'm going to have to throw a few more tantrums. Sorry, guys. Ugh ugh and double ugh.

Great title, and swift-moving, on target recap. Glad to have you back in the saddle and firing on all cylinders(to use every metaphor possible...is it a metaphor?...or simile? oh que the H...) good to have you back.
 

By the way, Jarocha provided a very interesting discussion on the pay scales of actors in telenovelas and the cost of living in Mexico on Julia's ENDA yesterday. Check back and read it. Very interesting.
 

Kris, let me echo Judy's sentiments. You guys make it look so effortless and smooth. Your title is perfectly crafted and catchy. It's upbeat yet hints at the lugubrious themes in this strangely dark episode. If ever a show cried out for a dose of Ximena and Rolu or Ximena and Lalo or Ximena and Jero or Ximena and... well, you get my point.

Unlike the Judster, I'm going to praise the writers for giving us a dose of unsettling terror in the vein of Edgar Allen Poe or Stephen or Julio Cortázar. They take one of our premier funsters and make her the helpless victim, they take two hopelessly nerdy, bumbling doofuses who ought to be the butts of an insensitive joke and turn them into hideous, threatening monsters, they set the stage for this in the middle of the happy little barrio with normal day to day tedium proceeding just out side... I'm blown away. Pretty? Definitely NO! Up lifting? Absolute not. Terrifying and chilling? You betcha. Or maybe I'm full of crap.

Carlos

Carlos
 

Sorry. Stephen King.

Carlos
 

First let me say how fantastic it is to have you back Kris, and firing on all cylinders as Judy says. Your recaps are always a wild roller coaster ride and you are the title maestra, no doubt about it.

Yikes! What an episode. I knew the anvils were lining up but I sure was surprised by some of the events. Is Betito the first official death on this telenovela? Does this mean others will follow? Oh dear.

Estrella, just horrible what's happening to her. It's terrible to see someone who is usually so upbeat and strong subdued by a couple of creeps.

Judy, I think Raul Araiza cracks everyone up. Earlier this week in a scene with Alicia (his real-life mom) it seemed she could barely contain herself while he did one of his ranting monologues.

Carlos, you're kind of deep this morning. I like your horror analysis. Somehow it makes me feel a little better to take the ickiness out of the emotional and put it in the analytical.

Fingers crossed that Estrella escapes. I sure don't relish recapping the alternative.

Thanks Kris!
 

Good morning, Sylvia. I hope I haven't given the wrong impression. This episode was extremely out of step with the tone of this frothy and fun TN. If the characters in this episode didn't look so familiar one might think that he stumbled into the wrong theater.

I know that Coni is not likable for most and she has been especially unpleasant and peevish of late, but whose heart did not go out to with the loss of little Betito? It was especially poignant because she has alienated virtually everyone and isolated herself making this experience even more lonely and tragic. A graphic manifestation of one reaping what one sows.

Add to that an espeluznante undeserved terrifying attack on one of our sweethearts and you might think, what the heck have they done to our cheery little show.

Poor Aldo, this will devastate him. I'm furious with him, yet my heart goes out to him at the same time. Katia honey, you need a spanking. I think this was compelling and extremely well executed, but guys, what the heck are you doing to our cute cozy little show?

Carlos
 

To be fair, I haven't yet watched this episode but look forward to it when I get home today.

So we have two adolescents who have unthinkingly (I hope) mouthed off and now horrifying consequences ensue. Yes, this is like real life. I have heard child psychologists say that most adolescents still don't have fully developed brains and lack the ability to visualize long term consequences of their actions. This is a debate that ensues today when it comes to the subject of "children" being tried as "adults" for serious crimes. I'm sure we have all experienced this phenomenon ourselves, hopefully to a lesser degree, when we were teenagers, or with our own children.

My heart goes out to Aldo too. He was just being a teenage boy. Clearly he has no idea how horrid and creepy his "pals" are. Haven't we all pushed boundaries to disastrous results and learned a hard lesson from it? Sigh, it's hard to watch.

I thought Katia was coming around to be less of a little brat. Did she premeditate her act or was it a moment of weakness? I guess I'll have to decide for myself when I watch the episode.
 

Eh, Carlos, how does one relish the crests without wallowing in the troughs? Your point about the writers adding this twist is very well taken.

I'm hoping to see Ivan open the traditional can of whup ass on those two rich boys. Hell, he's right outside and probably in a mood to whomp after having his laundry technique criticized twice.

Kris, I really like your concise prose - thanks for another great recap.

Carlos, it's Thursday. Goodson's for a chicken fried steak lunch? Man, that sounds good.
 

Uh oh, are you two boys gonna get started this early in the day?

And yes, chicken fried steak lunch sounds awesome!
 

Sylvia, I can't imagine that Katia had any idea of the consequences that her mean spirited loose tongue would trigger. Kids playing adult games never leads to anything good.

The final scene with those two losers and Estrella reminded me of those toxic hillbillies in Deliverance, laughable till they turn vicious.

This looks like a job for Supermonkey.

Carlos
 

Mike, you and I are thinking much alike today. The chicken fried steak sounds especially good since I've been dieting but we'll probably go to Bluewater. The oysters are especially plump and briny this time of year, and the cup of gumbo will be especially comforting in this cold damp weather. Kelli brought some Bourbon balls that her mom (from Kentucky) made. I cheated and allowed myself one with my coffee. Excellent, though her mother-in-law puts about twice as much Bourbon in hers. Heavenly.

Carlos
 

Okay...you are officially KILLING ME. But I made a pot of ham and bean soup the other day so will go console myself with that. It's cold as a witch's bazoom here and I need something hot and stick- to my -bony- ribs food. Lunch comin' up!
 

Kris, great recap and welcome back. Sorry you had such a downer episode.

It was sad Coni lost the baby. But she moved on so quickly back to her revenge, I shivered. I'm paraphrasing Hombre's comment about Maura on Sorti; Coni's obsession to destroy Mau will be her downfall.

I enjoy our off-topic food conversations. You all would be great to take on a foodie vacation. We'd have great food and conversation!!

I hope you all are right and our star gets saved (especially for your sake Sylvia). I really HATE the rape anvil and wish it were not so prevalent in TNs. I'm going to throw a few tantrums with Judy.

Thank you Carlos for using one of my favorite words, lugubrious. For me it's one of those words that is fun pronouncing and sounds like its meaning (if that makes sense; similar to odious and vile). Now I must go and look up espeluznante.
 

Ham and bean soup? YUM!!
A friend said it is as cold as the ears on a brass monkey!

Kris, good recap of a crappy episode.

Katia should be ashamed of herself - and I hope she will be when she finds out what she caused out of jealousy.

And, why on earth is Isabel creeping around? Does she WANT to be caught?
 

stream of consciousness will get me every time. Judy, I didn't mean your soup was cold, just the weather. (banging head on the table...)
 

Great recap, Kris, I especially liked the title. And when Moni and Alicia were at the niche, and Isabel was lurking, I, too, was yelling, turn around! Of course they never do.

I agree, though, why is Isabel lurking?

As for Coni and Betito, remember she originally wanted an abortion, and this very doctor tried to discourage her. It's ironic (but still tragic) it worked out this way.

As for food, I'm jealous of all the delicious stuff you're all eating. I pretty much diet during the week, eating almost the same breakfasts, lunches and dinners each day. But when the weekend comes, watch out!
 

Judy,we've talked here about college basketball, discussing OSU , I've brought up Kentucky and bragged on the Baylor Lady Bears, well today I noticed that our mens' team is ranked 22. Doh!. OSU's women are ranked 5, ahead of my BU women. I love college basketball.

Carlos
 

Thank you Kris, for your recap.As a newcomer to Gancho, I really appreciate the help.

Wow. Tonight was a mixture of delightful and dreadful.On the up side, I am so impressed with Beto's (Raul Araiza) comic timing. Like you, Judy B I was delighted by the scene between he and Mauricio. the armpit sniffing bit was vintage Robin Williams, and certainly seemed spontaneous. His scenes with Nieves were also priceless.

On Nieves, that was some outfit. The earrings (tiny baby bottles) were, well, gobsmacking. It will probably take me awhile to get used to her getups, although I can see they are part of her charm. And do we, the audience, know the real identity of Beto's father?

On the dark side, it was too bad that Coni lost her baby. How sad! And I hated the mean-girl instigated assault. gl
 

Ah it's good to be back among my buds. I really need to try harder to hang around and I have to give up on the notion that I will watch each episode before reading the recap. I think I'm just done with trying to maintain that. I miss out way to much on the currentness of the flow here.

Gosh I tell you all y'all's recaps have been so hysterical lately, I can't even describe what fun it is catching up!!

Yeah this was in a way a weird crappy episode. Super good point that we needed some Rolu and DEFINITELY Ximena!!! I didn't realize I missed her until you made that comment.

Hmmm, chicken fried steak. Wow...I only had poptarts for breakfast. we'll see what I can maybe pull out o' me arse for lunch. Probably not that...enjoy!

Thanks again for all of your patience. Maybe this 3:00 thing will work for me, I might even be able to sneak peaks at work from time to time. Ah well. NIce to hear from you all again and again thanks for bearing with my shortcomings, I do still think of you all even if I'm not on the web. OK off to work, super busy today!!
 

Kris, as everyone has noted - what an incredible recap - you are back, full force and we are delighted. Fantastic title and wonderful recap. I only wish there were a few lighter scenes (i.e. Mau and Beto) to counteract the heinous events of last night.

When Estrella was calling for Monita at the end, I totally lost it. The scene just seemed way too real and literally made me ill. I've been replaying it over and over in my head as much as I want to stop. As this is supposed to be a comedy, I can't imagine she won't be saved. But, I certainly wasn't expecting Coni to lose Betito, so I'm hoping the turn to the dark side ends here.

Mike, I hope Ivan opens up a CASE of whup ass on the 2 rapists.

Emilia, I don't know why Isabel is creeping around either. Now Coni can truthfully say Moni's mother caused the miscarriage. This provides another poisonous arrow in her arsenal against Monita. Of course, Moni will be even more devasted as Coni will no doubt deliver this news in person.

All I can say is "Blech", especially to Katia.

Diana
 

No problem Emilia. I knew what you meant the first time, amiga. And believe it or not, bean soup is good cold too. No way not to love bean soup. (but sad that I didn't get any cornbread made to go with it. will work on that this afternoon).

Karen, "lugubrious"...mmmmm, I can almost taste it. Gee, is it time to eat again? Yes, the Coni switch from grief to vengeance was startling. Clearly she deals with all her hurts by trying to cause harm to others. Not a good procedure...but one used by many, alas. And hoping hoping hoping Estrella gets rescued in time.
 

Elna June, one thing you have to know about Beto though is that he does SMELL. And he SMELLS BAD 99% of the time.

We first knew Connie was a goner for him when she was the sole person on earth who didn't seem to notice his overpowering aroma. He thinks it's manly. Everyone else thinks he...well...stinks.
 

HOMBRE...now you have me intrigued. It's none of my business but I'd love to know your breakfast/lunch/dinner routine...and even more...some of that let'er rip weekend feasting. As Karen noted, we've got a bunch of "foodies" on this line.

Kris, we'll all be thrilled if you can pop in and comment more. We have missed you mucho but I know how busy your life is, and after all, you can only squeeze in so much.

Diana, yes, the Estrella scenes were absolutely sick-making. Will be crossing my fingers for a better outcome tonight. First they change our show to the afternoon, then they throw this wretched episode at us!

Oh, and Elna June...yeah, weren't those earrings a riot!? Nieves "nursed Beto until he was 8 years old", so the baby bottles were rather ironic. But costumes are a really something in this one. Don Cesar is often color-coordinated with Nieves. But his outfits are sharper. Still...wait till you see her fake fur. Awesome.
 

Judy B:

LOL on the Beto "smell" clarification. Oh, my, I must say I feel for Coni. I once had a boyfriend whose scent everyone else found funky but which I took for animal magnetism. Ha ha ha...
 

Hmmm..tell us more. This sounds like a good story. We have NO secrets here, Elna June.

But on the show yes. No one knows who Beto's father really is. (We hope Nieves knows.) Some "rich guy" left her at the altar, and presumeably he's Beto's dad. But we don't know for sure. Big mystery. Stay tuned.
 

Oy, oy, oy. I didn't notice Estrella's shoes amid all that horror, but I really hope she's wearing her usual spike heels and will kick those thugs where it hurts the most.

Surely someone will rescue her, right? Monita and Ivan? I think ordinarily Estrella would be able to defend herself better, but she's been weak and fainting, poor girl.

In episodes like this I'm glad to have the usual fashion show to look at. Cesar's color combination was just eye-popping; I loved it.
 

Thank you for such a fantastic recap if this difficult episode Fuego.

I knew it was coming, it's the most cringeworthy moment of the show for me but I had forgotten when so watching again the Estrella scenes was horrible. She is such a fun and spunky character that it was hard to watch that.

I don't think that Katia meant for that to happen when she sent the clowns to Estrella. I think that when she founds out she'll feel very guilty.

I felt sorry for Coni when she lost little Betito. I don't think she is completely over judging by the scenes when she was sulking in the house while Jaqui took the girls out, she didn't even care to yell a little at them.

Now Pepillo Origel as Beto's father? Ha! I'd watch a show about the adventures of that pair.

Jarocha
 

Sorry, I meant I had forgotten when that scene happened.

Jarocha
 

Thanks, Kris. That was a very disturbing episode...a miscarriage and a potential rape. Meh. This show seems to be developing a dark side. Off topic..chicken fried steak for lunch...hmmm...I had a yogurt and 6 almonds.
 

Julia, No such luck - I'm fairly certain Estrella had flats on. She seemed so pale, and her being either ill or pregnant left her so open, completely vulnerable and defenseless.

Diana
 

Carlos..so glad your guys are ranked no. 22. Sounds like we'll get to see them for sure in the NCAA. We're doing better now that Evan Turner is back. He's still not 100 per cent but even his partial is awesome.

And yes, our gals are very highly ranked. In the past however, we've stumbled early on (often in the first game) of the NCAA Women's. Hope things will be different this year. March is my favorite month!

Jarocha, your infor on cost of living etc. in Mexico was sooo interesting (ENDA line). Thanks!
 

Susanlynn...yikes...a yogurt...you mean one of those teeniny little cups!? And six (count 'em) almonds. You have all my admiration. One of my dear students, who at 82 still has a perfect figure (5 kids) has a yogurt and an apple for lunch. Scrambled eggbeaters for dinner. Don't know how y'all do it, but "chapeau".
 

Carlos, your remark about oysters prompted me to go check w/ my buddy here at work and we're gonna have some tomorrow. We've been putting it off waiting for cold weather and, well, we have sure had some of that lately! Shlurp!

Also, what part of Ky is Kelli from?
 

Mike, because of the weather (rainy and dreary) Linda asked if we could eat in Tomball, so we ate at Goodson's instead. I didn't have the CFS however, but the smothered steak instead ( Judy, you may want to skip over this, remember, it was the Lovely Linda's idea). Grilled ground chuck smothered in grilled onions and mushrooms, rich brown gravy, topped with a slice of melted Monterrey Jack. Butter beans, french fries, yeast rolls and cream gravy. Except for the butterbeans, I had only a small portion of each thing and brought the rest home, good for at least 2 more meals. Linda had the Chicken Tropicana, breasts marinated in a pineapple soy sauce marinade, grilled with pine apple slices, baked squash and of course butterbeans. Apparently they are ranked in the travel channel's top 101 list of somethings. Next week, bringo the oysters. Last week they were smallish but plump cold and briny-fresh.You can almost hear them squeal as the struggle when you bite into them.

The more I think about it, the more I think that the most profoundly affected will be Aldo. As they say around here, he really "screwed the pooch." Aren't those guys a pair of gusanos? I 'm still shuddering over how on one hand they seemed like such inept bumbling , pitiful buenparanadas and on the other hand such menacing reptiles.

Carlos
 

Judyb~~Watching a 2-year-pld from 6.30 am to 4 pm is great for my figure. I am either running after her or sitting on the floor with her playing . I kind of graze ...a yogurt...an apple...a couple whole wheat crackers...a rice cake. Then , hub makes a very simple dinner for us , like chicken and a veggie. My treat is a Skinny Cow fudge bar while I watch Sortilegio..100 calories. We haven't been walking at the local park lately because of the temps in the 20s, but I did buy the Pilates machine and use it every night. It has helped my posture and my back. I'll never be the 104 lbs. I was when we got married many moons ago, but I'm trying for damage control.
 

Carlos~~~Are you near Dallas ? I just read about a great place for pancakes there.
 

Oh, Mike, I think Kelli and her family are from a place called Olive Grove or at least Olive something.

Carlos
 

Hah! Susanlynn...that reminds me of the week I spent taking care of my grandchildren while the parents were off in Bermuda. I ate whatever was left on their plates (really!) and once I'd given them both their baths, read three stories each, diapered etc. etc. and they were down, I'd sit on the couch and stare into space like a zombie. If there'd been a carrot cake around, I would have been on it like a raptor but there didn't seem to be anything but kid food!
 

You all are making me HUNGRY, and I forgot to pack up some of the delicious tom kah gai I made the other night to bring for lunch! At least I have it to look forward to for dinner. I'd go out and pick up my favorite comfort food (Greek chicken, hummus, and salad from this great Mediterranean place, which manages to be awesome despite being located in the mall food court), but I already had that once this week and it's already midafternoon anyway. Instant oatmeal it is...

Carlos, I almost felt a little sorry for your girl Constanza last night. She just looked so sad... Of course, this probably won't inspire her to be nicer and I'll be right back to hating her the first time she picks on one of the kids.
 

Julia, migawd, put down that oatmeal and go get your Greek meal. So what if it's twice in one week!. Mind you, I have oatmeal and fruit for breakfast, but never instant. And what a depressing lunch that would be.

Impressed with whatever you left at home. WHAT WAS THAT? And how do you make it? Wowza..I'm way impressed.
 

Tom kah gai is a Thai soup. It's actually super easy to make. The basic is coconut milk (don't worry, Judy, I used the low-fat kind and my heart is fine), chicken broth, fish sauce, lime juice, galangal, kaffir, and chilies. Usually also chicken or tofu. I also put in onions and mushrooms because I like them. Simmer until it's all hot and the flavor is sucked out of the galangal and kaffir. You serve it with rice.
 

Carlos, is Kelli from Olive Hill? Out betwixt Morehead and Grayson on I-64?

Julia, sounds like Thai chicken soup. In the mood for oysters, but Thai soups sounds good, too.

Gulf oysters are just superb. Not sure these over-harvested, scrawny Chesapeake Bay bivalves hold a candle to the ones from the southern coast. Had some in Seattle a couple of years ago and they were a bit small but very tasty.

I do look forward to the Mexican cooking show on Food Network. Think it's supposed to start Saturday the 23rd at 9 a.m.
 

Mike, for a very short time we had a cooking show hosted by a drop dead gorgeous woman from Vera Cruz, whose name for the life of me I can't remember. She dressed to the 9s including high heels, but the most appealing thing about her was her promotion of pork lard. She touted it's health benefits (I swear), she showed how to render it from raw fat, and used it in just about everything. As I said, she wasn't on for very long.

Carlos
 

Judy, I actually like instant oatmeal. Especially with the little dessicated fruits. I know, you may be thinking, "isn't that like eating wallpaper paste?" But I hate oysters, so, you know, individual preferences vary.

I'm eating the oatmeal, and I'm not sorry.
 

You guys are making me very hungry! Time to leave the office to cook some dinner!

-Vivi in DC (too bummed out by this episode to comment on it)
 

Susanlynn, no, we live near Houston, but go to Dallas if we must. Actually, I love Dallas.

Mike, I'll check with Kelli tomorrow. I really like fresh blue points but I don't think there's anything better or cleaner tasting than our Gulf oysters. They taste like the ocean smells.

Boy, I think we've reached a defining point with Coni. I want so badlyfor her to turn out good. Imagine if she used all her assets for good rather than spitefully, selfishly and vindictively.

Carlos
 

Vivi...thanks for stopping by. I totally understand your lack of enthusiasm for commenting. It was a wretchedly upsetting episode.

Julia, I don't know "glangal" or "kaffir" but I'll look up Thai soup recipes and see what I can find. The coconut milk and lime juice sound yummy.

Glad you're happy with the instant oatmeal. I've eaten oat bran (which really DOES taste like wallpaper paste) so who am I to throw stones? And with dried fruit...yes, that would perk it up. These days I'm eating my oatmeal uncooked but back in the day I'd cook it with raisins and walnuts and enjoyed every bite. Basically I'm an omnivore...which is why I'm trying VERY HARD not to think about what Carlos had for lunch. VERY HARD. "My body wants to lose weight. My body wants to lose weight."
 

Galangal is a root; kaffir is lime leaves. I buy them in the spice and herb store down by Pike Place Market but Asian food stores also have them. They are dried and keep for years in the pantry.

Most of the recipes you'll find also call for lemongrass. My local market hardly ever has it and I rarely leave work in time to make it to Pike Place before the produce stalls close, so I just leave that out. It doesn't make much difference.

The recipes also might say to thinly slice up the galangal, but that is difficult and unnecessary. Just throw the whole thing in. You'll fish out that and the lime leaves and not eat them.

I also just put in a few chilies sliced in half and then remove them after the soup has steeped. One time I ate half a serrano chili and while it was a bit burny, the worst part was the ferocious headache I got a bit later. Since then I've been careful about eating too much hot stuff.
 

Back on the subject of babies and daddies, does anyone think we'll find out who Valentina's father is before the show is over? That is a loose end which may make a good plot line. Perhaps the attacker could be found and they could all get some resolution somehow.
 

Judy, don't think too badly of me. Itruly ate very small amounts though the choices weren't what one traditionally thinks of for a weight loss diet, Actually I think 'm still doing rather well even though surrounded by temptation.

Only fresh fruit on deck for tonight.

As much as I admire last night's drama, this isn't what I signed on for. I hope things lighten up tonight.

Carlos
 

Ahoy all, just got home from work and am enjoying your comments. Carlos, your oyster description reminds me of the first time I had oysters. It was after playing a rugby game in Pensacola; the Pensacola women's team treated our team to a barrel of fresh oysters. They stood around shucking them like pros and we stood around scarfing them down. I was afraid at first and was a bit squeamish, but after my first taste of sweet, briny plumpness I was a fan for life. No cocktail sauce for me thank you, a cold beer was the only condiment I needed.

All your food talk is making me crazy. I may have to try my hand at Julia's soup tonight.
 

CARLOS, I would never think badly of you. You could probably bump off a few people and I'd still be on your side.

JULIA, in the recipes I looked at they said you could substitute fresh ginger for galangal. We've got Asian markets around but if I can't find it at Aldi's, Meiers or Trader Joe's I usually don't bother. Still, chicken broth, lime juice and coconut milk really speak to me. Maybe I'll just make up my own recipe.
 

Carlos: Most people cook with pork lard in Veracruz. "Picadas" are especially tasty with it. In my house we don't because my dad is third generation of spanish inmigrants so he was raised with food cooked with olive oil and while he loves those "antojitos" he prefers his old style and I got used to it. I had a friend who also said it was very healthy but I don't know, her cooking skills were amazing though.

Just a warning about the show. Be prepared for dark times.

Jarocha
 

My grandma always had lard on hand and thought nothing of putting that (and butter and cream) in everything. I'm sure it's tasty but I don't think I could get my mind or my arteries around the idea.

More darkness? Oh, no. We're going to need hefty doses of Ximena.
 

Hey Julie. I had meant to ask you: Did you watch any novelas during your stay in Guadalajara? Did you like them or not?

Jarocha
 

Jarocha, I didn't see more than a few episodes of any one telenovela, but I did see a little of several different shows. I think I would like any of them more if I had seen more of them and knew the characters and plots, but I did enjoy some. Here are my thoughts:

Camaleones: I liked this one, although it is skewed to a younger audience. The reappearance of familiar faces is nice, and the characters seemed well-acted and had depth. I liked the tone of the show.

Hasta Que el Dinero Nos Separe: I couldn't get very interested in this. If it's really popular, maybe I just caught it at the wrong moment, but the characters and settings weren't very engaging to me.

Corazón Salvage: Seemed rather bad. The pirate scenes were fun, but kind of cheesy. Maybe if I thought Ed Yañez was hot (I don't) I would like it more.

Los Exitosos Pérez: I enjoyed this one. It seemed snappy and fun.
 

I just read Jarocha's comments on ENDA about the different tiers of telenovela stars and their salaries. Very interesting stuff. And more food talk which of course I love. Keep it coming!!

Also, one thing about last night's episode, I think the way Beto kept saying he looked like his real Pa must have been a huge joke because Pepillo looks like he's had a lot of, er, cosmetic altering done to his face. Just a thought.

Jarocha, thanks for the warning about tonight's episode.
 

You know wanted to thank you all too for your condolences last week. Much appreciated. This being the third cat we lost in less than a year, I was sad but numb. Thing is at least two of the little guys didn't have to go, and so I'm mad at the forces that made that happen. I was hoping to post a pic of my beautiful Popoki, but forgot to look for one. If I find I'll post, thanks again for all of your thoughts.

Yummmm Tom yum or tom kah gai ... love thai soups...we make that too, it is pretty easy if you have access to the ingredients, which we do. OK, the burrito I had for lunch is wearing off....
 

oh and Sylvia, yes the one about the ear looking the same was a joke, because the name of the talk show Pepillo hosts is called La Oreja (the ear) I was dying when Beto said that one!!!
 

Aha!! I wondered "did the guy have his ears done too?" because they were so obvious about the connection. Duh, I didn't realize it is the name of his show.
 

Julie: Your take on the shows is interesting. I'm only a casual viewer of Hasta Que El Dinero Nos Separe and Los Exitosos Perez. The problem I have with the first one is that besides the main couple I have a hard time caring for anyone else. As for LEP I have troubles with the time it is on since I have to be up early for work and at 10 pm I'm rather sleepy. Sometimes I put CS to see if there's something for a good laugh but it annoys me pretty quickly.

Sylvia: Now that you mentioned the ears thing I hadn't catch onto that joke! It's just that right now Origel is on a show called NXclusiva and La Oreja has been over for almost a year, but it was still on during the airing of this episode so that must have been the intention. By the way Pepillo also got hair injections, he has always been very upfront about his efforts to mantain his looks.

Jarocha
 

60 comments. What has happened?

Carlos
 

Jarocha:

I just want to express my appreciation for your contributions to Caray Caray. It is so interesting to me to hear the feedback of a person who is from Mexico and it still immersed in the the culture. I am a Mexiphile as well as an Españafile and all your cultural input is greatly appreciated.

Your English is impeccable. Did you grow up speaking both languages? I am inspired to hope that some day my Spanish will be close to fluent if I continue to work on it.
 

I hope this turn to the dark side isn't permanent. I wonder if the storyline is dark from here on out and that is why they are moving it to the afternoon.

I'm still waiting to hear an explanation from my contact at Univision. She forwarded my question to someone in "research" who hasn't gotten back to me yet.

AmyK
 

Thank you AmyK. I'd heard you were going to enquire on our behalf and we thank you for it. Keep us posted if you find anything out.
 

Elna June: I started studying english in secondary school and then high school. This past summer I asisted a summer english program at the Toronto University in Canada. But I think what helped me the most was all the english music and programs that I watched while growing up. Cable TV here has programs in their original languages and the movies we go see at the cinema are almost always in their original language with subtitles (unless they are movies for kids).

Jarocha
 

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