Thursday, February 09, 2012
El Talismán #8 Wed 2/8/12 the buy 1 get 3 free script line annual sale: you are doing this for vengeance, aren't you?
Recap by Marta Ivett
I know this is very long, word for word, but have to admit I was entertained by the high school-ish argument back and forth between Camila and Pedro… two grown people arguing stupidly and two much younger guys just standing there entertained or scared.
Camila is mad in Pedro’s living room
C: Tell me! Now you have a habit of kidnapping women?
P: No, no! of course not! … well, if you want to you can leave.
C: What ??
]C is shouting loud, demanding an explanation… P is just staring at her, still trying to figure out if he is dreaming or this is real…]
P: If I brought you here this way was because I was trying to avoid you bringing the plague that is at Alatrash to ElTalMajal!
[Now she is the one in disbelief.. ]
C: What kind of person do you think I am?
P: The Camila I knew is another one!
C: But you do believe I want to ruin your crops!
P: Well, but it is logical, no? You hate me because you think I am to blame for your dad losing ElTalMajal in a gambling game!
C: OF course you are guilty!! One way or another you are to blame for my family losing everything!! And since you are feeling shame for it, now you say I want to take revenge! Who told you I want to take revenge? WHO??
Claudio :Antonio Negrete, Pigorio’s son!
Gabriel: Yes!, He told us that you were coming to work with the plague from the Alcatrash, to bring it to ElTalMajal and that way you would ruin him (Pedro)!. (Pedro is nodding .. see?... but still he has a facial expression not quite believing this is happening)
C: And you believed him?
P: Well, Pigorio has always wanted to take revenge on me, and as it seems, now you too want the same!
C: Don’t try to justify yourself. You can think whatever the heck you want!
P: Now you are the victim!
C: Look, Pedro! I hope all your crops rot! You deserve it!! (Pedro looks at her like saying ‘now, you really didn’t say that, did you?’)
P: thank you for the well wishes, but I won’t let you ruin my ranch!
C: The lion thinks all are in the same condition, right? If you think I came to ruin your ranch, it must be because you know you deserve it!
P: No, I have my conscience clean!
(the boys Claudio and Gabriel are still as flies on wall watching this argument go back and forth… Claudio has his arms crossed stiff as a guard, Gabriel seems rather scared)
C: IF you did you would not be worried that I came to take revenge! But you know you are guilty of taking ElTalMajal from me and leaving my family out on the street!
P: I did not leave your family out on the street!
C: And what are you going to say? That it was my dad? But my dad needed someone else to bet against him! And that was you, Pedro!
P: But you don’t even know what happened that night!
C: All I know is that that night you left my family on the street! And if one day I felt something for you, I no longer feel anything!! I don’t ever want to see you, understand it!!
P: IS that what you really want?
C: Yes!!
P: That is what we will do! (grabs her over his shoulder and carries her out to the fence… with the help of the boys he drops her on the Alcatrash side of the fence)
P: IF that is what you want, you are going to Alcatrash!
C: Let me go!! Let me go Pedro!! Let me go, you wild thing!! Let me down!! Animal!!
P: That is what you wanted, no?? To be at Alcatrash?? Well, you are at Alcatrash!! You did not want to see me again?? Well, you will not see me again!! (turns around and leaves in a huff)
C: Leave forever!!
Meanwhile inside Alcatrash…
OSG surprised that Pedro is in love with Camila… LooKrazia says Pedro drools every time he says her name… her only relief is that Camila is far away, and Pedro will not see her again, if she ever comes back around here, I will kill her.
L: The worst that could happen to me would be that Camila returned. If Pedro is crazy about her having her far, can you imagine what it would be if he had her near him?
OSG tells LooKrazia that he thinks he saw her at a Fresno hotel, but with the drinks he had in, he could not tell for sure… LooKrazia wonders if Pedro and Camila see each other in secret. OSG says maybe, but don’t forget that Pedro is still married to Mariana, so if he is seeing Camila, it must be in secret.
L: I don’t care that Pedro is still married to Mariana. That does not count. That happened years ago.
OSG: But everyone thinks Pedro killed his wife.
L: and that is true?
OSG: Who knows, the issue is Mariana dissappeared.
L: Tell me the truth. Was it you and my dad that dissappeared Mariana?
OSG: Don’t ask so many questions.
L: I don’t care either way. In any case, Pedro will fall (for me).
OSG: What we have to find out is if Camila returned or not. Last night I was so drunk I am not sure if I saw her or not. But if it is true, poor her (Camila) and while at it, I will help you, flirt.
Back to fields of Alcatrash… So it IS Avocadoes!! Ok, back to the show… Genoveba comes running to meet Camila, Camila is still smoking angry and says she saw Pedro and he is dead for her!! Camila tells Genoveba she will concentrate in work and make believe Pedro never existed.
Pedro tells the boys on their walk back that he hopes that the plague of Alcatrash won’t come over here… Boys ask if he truly believes Camila wants that to happen. He asks them to please not mention Camila to him again.
Camila tells Genov what happened with Pedro. Genov asks if she thinks Pedro believes she is teamed up with Gregorio to harm him. Camila confirms, and says he dared say it was for vengeance. ‘You know how much I fought to not vow to avenge against him and everyone that hurt me!!’ Camila tells Genov she just wants to end the plague and leave asap…Genov says it will take much longer to fix the ‘plague’ than they anticipated. IT will take at least a couple months. Camila wants to make believe Pedro never existed. Genov suggests to have boss send someone else instead of Camila. Camila is not willing to back down and make Pedro think she buckled and ran.
At apartment, Elvira is remembering when Pigorio sent her packing and told her he never cared for her really. ..and his favorite word ‘LARGATE!!’ … she keeps telling herself he will pay someday… Armando comes home, not heard of Camila yet. Elvira wonders if she has already seen Pigorio. Elvira tells Armando that they both will also head to Fresno.
Gabriel, Pedro and Claudio are buying wood… Pedro goes off to pay for it, Gabriel and Claudio talk about Pedro and Camila. Camila is very pretty, no wonder Pedro has not been able to forget her… and so is Mariana per her photo. That it seems Camila and Pedro need to talk but can only yell at each other… Seems Margarito left a while ago and got to drinking regularly.. they hope Margarito would return, Pedro could use his advise now.
Doris drives in with Florencia, Claudio is smitten instantly. Gabriel reminds him that Pigorio threatened them not to approach his granddaughters. Claudio will take his chances… Doris warns Florencia about what her granddad said as Claudio is approaching. Florencia tells Claudio can’t be friends anymore.
Inside Alcatrash, Pigorio is telling the same thing to OSG… Pigorio is predicting Faiola (he got the wrong one) will not follow his orders so he is asking OSG to talk to her. OSG sarcastically tells Pigorio that he will tell Fabiola that the God of Alcatrash has spoken… So it will be written! So it will be done!! (man I miss Yul Brynner) … Pigorio does not appreciate the joke, says better go talk to the farm engineers who are dealing with the plagues instead (then why this whole speech to OSG to talk to his daughter if he has other plans for OSG?) Pigorio wants the engineers to stay within Alcatrash grounds, instead of them staying at a nearby city hotel.
Camila and friend are settling into an office room at Alcatrash… Camila says she can hide from Pigorio and the Negrete family here… Friend says better be ready to face Pigorio and OSG and the rest of the sweet tender family face to face since if they spend so much time at their ranch, no way can she avoid them for long… Camila says had enough today with Pedro, give me time… Friend asks about El Talisman inside deco… did it have flowers, nice things, etc? … yes, why?... better start getting the idea that there is a woman living at ElTalMajal…
Claudio and Gabriel tell Pedro about Florencia discarding Claudio because Pigorio ordered it. Pedro says hold on, I will take care of it… just at that moment, here come again Doris and Florencia back to their van again… Pedro calls for Florencia but Doris immediately steps in the way telling Pedro off… Pedro won’t stop.. he tells her noone discards these men… they are worth a lot, they are good people, have a good heart and are very decent. Doris says how can they be worth much if they are mere peons of ElTalMajal? Florencia also questions Pedro’s image of them… Pedro gives up and tells the boys ‘lets go, its no use, but I have to talk to the two of you’…
Back to Camila and Genoveba… Camila wonders if Pedro married or has anyone else… Friend says perhaps. Camila confesses someday she dreamed of marrying Pedro. Friend says time has come to get Pedro out of her mind… Camila says easier said than done… In comes OSG and Camila can’t avoid him… ‘go ahead and deny you are Camila’ … OSG is in disbelief… you are coming here to work? … Camila explains that they called the company she works at and the company sent her here to help them fix the plague problem. Genoveba confirms what Camila said… OSG tells Genoveba she will say whatever Camila asks her, and then tells Camila ‘I know you came to Alcatrash for vengeance (third character that has a vengeance, according to another character? How many copies of this script did they give the cast?? Was this script on clearance sale??)
Doris is yelling at Florencia for talking to Claudio. Doris swears to Florencia that Claudio and Gabriel are just like Pedro! Florencia argues against it. Doris yells over Florencia and tells her she cannot be friend of that ‘gentuza’ (commoner trash). Don’t talk to them! It is an order from grandpa!! Doris mentions that Fabiola is also a rebel and she has had enough of the both of them.
Pedro is also sermoning the boys… don’t get your hopes too high with Flo or Fab…
Boys say you don’t know them, Pedro argues, but I know their family! Claudio swears that Flo and Fab are not like grandpa. Pedro warns ‘for now, but don’t be so sure’.
Fab is in living room at Alcatrash, in comes LooKrazia… who asks Fab what happened with the Najeras’ LooKrazia asks Fab if she heard anything. Fab only remembers OSG telling her mom that Camila was prettier. LooKrazia won’t tell why she asked. But will say she wants to know where Camila is, so she won’t mess with her plans with Pedro.
OSG is still hanging at Camila’s improv office … He insists she came for vengeance. He does not want her to forget he is the owner of the ranch, and she is just an employee. She pulls her card, she can help his dad not to lose the ranch for the plague. And if he does not like it he can call her boss and she will be replaced. He tells her that is how he remembered her, a fidgidy fighter. He has always ‘admired’ her. She corrects him ‘you have always ‘wanted’ me. OSG admits that is what he meant, and promises her she will fall for him. (vas a ser mia).
Pedro tells the boys that the ‘expert/specialist’ Camila will try to ruin their crops… HE asks them to take measurements to put up another fence… When Pedro leaves, Claudio explodes, tells Gab he respects Pedro but he won’t accept that Pedro keep him and Flo apart.
Fab asks what happens when grandpa finds out she is after Pedro. What if he sends you away again? LooKrazia says he does not have to find out, you just keep your mouth shut. I will make it so Pedro and Camila will not see each other.. Fab confused since Camila and her family left long ago. LooKrazia says yeah but I want to make sure Camila won’t come back. I promise you, TiaLu will never let them be together.
Camila is in disbelief that she will be with OSG. OSG says just give it time… Genoveba reminds him he is married, he is irritated that Genov butted in. Camila asks him to respect Genov. OSG appologizes to Genov. HE asks Genov to leave… tells Camila that for her, he is willing to divorce even if he ends up pennyless… Camila is in disbelief. OSG insists he is serious. Camila says don’t wait up… you and I will never be anything. OSG pulls another card.. .’why? Because of Pedro?’ Camila can’t hide her surprise that he knows… he says LooKrazia told him. How does she know, asks Camila. ’Pedro told her… (and he keeps playing his script) didn’t you know that Pedro and LooKrazia are together?’ Camila puts deer in the headlights face… Camila swallows hard and asks for confirmation. ‘Yeah but in hiding, you know my dad hates him. … because he kept ElTalMajal… that is why they have to see each other in hiding, she stays at his place and returns before my dad wakes up.’… Camila is trying to hide her pain, says she doesn’t care. OSG asks for a chance … she says even if I don’t love Pedro does not mean I will be with you… so let me work… OSG asks to be friends (with a very sneaky facial expression… nose growing anywhere?) OSG says fine, lets be friends, at least. Camila agrees and keeps asking him to leave and let her work… OSG finally leaves and Genov comes asking for the gist of what happened… Camila tells her about LooKrazia and Pedro being together
Pedro and auntie are talking about him and Camila… Pedro insists Camila is after vengeance… he would have preferred she never returned, the old Camila was nice, transparent, with no prejudices… Tia says she would like to meet her to know her true intentions… Pedro says its no use.. life is funny, LooKrazia is interested in me, but I am in love with Camila, who wants to take revenge on me… the world is spinning backwards.
LooKrazia is drinking.. Fab is asking if Pedro loves Camila, will she beg him? LooKrazia assures Fab that when a woman loves a man, she will leave her pride aside as long as she can have him, and she wants Pedro.
Camila took it hook, line and sinker, telling Genov that Pedro does not love her and is together with LooKrazia. Genov suggest she ask Boss to replace her, but Camila says being away will not take the pain away.. will stay even if Pedro and LooKrazia are around.
Said LooKrazia is calling a PI to find Camila. OSG walks in and hangs up for her and tells her Camila is here at AlcaTrash.
Outside, Camila and Genov are talking about needing to take measures to avoid the plague to get to other crops, when they spot Pedro’s boys.. who are busy taking their measurements. Camila and Genov guess they are planning to build another fence… Camila yells at the boys that a new fence won’t prevent the plague to get to ElTalMajal.
Inside Alcatrash..
LooKrazia is worried that Camila is around… she wonders if Camila came to see Pedro. OSG says Camila came to work… OSG tells LooKrazia that he told Camila that LooKrazia and Pedro are together… she is happy to hear that…
The boys yell back at Camila that Pedro can do anything, he owns the land… Camila yells that that won’t do anything, they are a bunch of stubborn fools… let Pedro do whatever he wants…
Pigorio and one of his workers are talking that they can’t provide enough grain to fill the orders from the factories… he won’t buy Pedro’s crops but has not let Pedro sell to anyone else either… he and the worker are planning to take the customers to a womens house they are friends with…
Pedro and auntie are also talking about ElTalMajal not doing well financially since he has not been able to sell the crop, they might need to mortgage ElTalMajal. Tia impactada that the situation is this critical.. The boys come running to tell Pedro the message Camila sent, that it is useless to lift another fence to avoid the plague from reaching ElTalMajal.
Camila tells Genov that they have to prevent the plague to get to ElTalMajal. Genov jokes that Pedro has been acting so nasty, but she still worries about him. Camila keeps insisting it is not about Pedro, it is about her job and ElTalMajal. Genov confronts her asking flat out ‘ElTalMajal… or Pedro?’ Camila finally opens up, saying she thought Pedro loved her, but it shows he never did’.
Here comes Pedro jumping the fence and approaching her from behind
P: ‘Camila! Stop sending me messages (with third parties)! I know you will not stop until you infect ElTalMajal with the plague! (Genov makes her quiet exit)
C: And here you go again!
P: If you are going to tell me something, at least tell me face to face!!
C: I don’t know what they told you, but I just told the truth! It is useless to raise a fence to stop the plague from reaching ElTalMajal!
P: Don’t tell me that you now are worried about ElTalMajal, don’t be a hypocrit!
C: You are the hypocrit! You told me you loved me, that you would always love me, but you are a liar! I know you have another one!
P: (thinks: how did she find out about Mariana?) Ah, you found out!
C: You thought I would not find out? What makes me most angry is that I am such a fool! Because I came back with the pretext of the plague but I wanted to see you! I wanted to be with you! (he gets a happy grin on his face) And all you told me years ago were just lies!! You never loved me!!
P: Enough! You don’t know how much I love you!! (grabs her face with his hands and plants a BIG ONE on her)
P: Now dare tell me this kiss was not one of love!
C: you love me? And LooKrazia?
P: What does LooKrazia have to do with all this? I am not in love with LooKrazia!
(a huge shotgun shot is heard, they freeze… Pigorio’s HM threats Pedro with shooting him if he does not leave right now)
C: No, Valentino!! (Pedro is very happy she jumped to defend him)
P: Don’t worry Valentino, I am leaving now! (back to Camila) Now you know, don’t pay attention to anything you hear about LooKrazia. I love you, Camila. Ah, and… when you don’t feel like taking vengeance anymore… come looking for me. (leaves her totally confused)
Inside Alcatrash, LooKrazia and OSG plan to set up a situation where Camila sees Pedro and LooKrazia together… But OSG does not want to participate in such a way that Camila will find out he was part of it. He is really interested in Camila, he wants Camila to believe he really wants to be her friend..
Pedro is remembering his argument and kiss with Camila… (their theme song: the light in her looks, the tone of her skin… the color of her lips… my God, what a woman!’)
P: What am I doing? What am I doing? I don’t know if she is sincere or if she is setting a trap for me…
Claudio: Pedro! Are you ok? … sure you are ok?
P: I am falling for a woman I can’t figure out.
Camila tells Valentin one of these days he will actually shoot someone and regret it. Val says if it is Pedro, boss will congratulate me.
Valentin tells Camila that on orders from Pigorio, they will stay at Alcatrash, their things were already moved over here from the hotel… Camila and Genov are not happy that they were not asked… Valentino tells Camila, sorry but you will have to live at Alcatrash.
At ElTalMajal fields, Pedro and Claudio are revising the leaves… Pedro is unsure what to do. Claudio is painfully honest with Pedro, tells him that you can’t decide who you love, Pedro says he has to forget Camila. Besides, he is still married. Claudio says don’t take this the wrong way, but you are using Mariana as an excuse. That he can get a divorce anytime.. Pedro admits it is a pretext, and will continue using the pretext to not fall for Camila.
P: Camila does not believe the plague will reach ElTalMajal.
Claudio suggest he go talk to her and ask her himself.
Pedro does not like the idea, anyone can see what he feels for her miles away!
Claudio: Now you understand what I go through with Florencia…
P: that’s right, you too are in love with Florencia… but she is a Negrete.
Clau: That Flo is a Negrete does not mean she carries the evil genes of her dad, Pedro!
Am I a drunk like my dad?
P: OF course not, but you heard them this morning, Pigorio does not want you near his granddaughter!
Clau: Then what do I do? Let the woman I love go just like that? Flo is not seeking vengeance, like Camila does!
P: But she won’t even talk to you!
Clau: But that is because her mother is brainwashing her against me! But once I talk to her everything will go back to the way it was!
P: Alright! Let’s suppose you get together, what are you going to do to see each other? In hiding? Think about it! IT is not worth it!
Inside Alcatrash, Flo and Fab are talking about Claudio’s reaction to her rejecting to talk to him. Flo is afraid Claudio must think she is just like her granddad. She felt Claudio was really dissappointed in her. Fab says no use regreting it. Just have to figure out how to solve the problem. Fab asks Flo if she really does not like Clau as a man. Flo keeps denying it, but don’t want to lose a friend like him. Fab says then whether mom likes it or not, you and I will go talk to him. (Flo impactada, is afraid they will get caught. Fab says so what? She(mom) also has her own secrets, no?)
OSG enters his bedroom, Doris is in bed, asks if he will fulfill his marriage commitment. OSG: You should be that lucky. I wouldn’t go back in your bed even if I had gone crazy.
I freed myself from you and I won’t fall again. (Doris claims they do get along well in bed) that was before. Now it is different… Want to know why?... because finally there is a woman worth my risking my dad disheriting me… (she demands to know the name) course, her name is Camila… yes, Camila Najera, she is back at the ranch, and for her, I WOULD divorce you…
(end of ep)
Previews show OSG continuing with his intention to divorce, Doris slapping Camila and showing her her wedding ring, yelling Antonio is her husband… Camila returns the slap right back but seems OSG and LooKrazia do scheme the meeting with Pedro and LooKrazia, Pedro receives a note, seems hopeful, probably thinks it is from Camelia, OSG and LooKrazia celebrate ‘tonight will be the great night, flirt, we are winning the battle’ .. voice over: the war begins.. at ElTalMajal!!
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Ah Marta, whenever I read one of your very thorough recaps I feel like I receive a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card since my night follows yours. Your conversation translations are the bomb and give us our weekly sanity (insanity?) check.
Favorite line of the night: "Was this script on clearance sale??" Oh man, no kidding!
"two grown people arguing stupidly and two much younger guys just standing there entertained or scared." Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
LooKrazia, bwahahahah! That's so friggin' brilliant.
What is Genoveva's accent?
Poor Pedro, I think he is doomed to have that perpetuously confused look plastered on his face. Wasn't it EJ who said he is a box of rocks. Um, yes.
Gracias Marta. You are a treasure.
Favorite line of the night: "Was this script on clearance sale??" Oh man, no kidding!
"two grown people arguing stupidly and two much younger guys just standing there entertained or scared." Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
LooKrazia, bwahahahah! That's so friggin' brilliant.
What is Genoveva's accent?
Poor Pedro, I think he is doomed to have that perpetuously confused look plastered on his face. Wasn't it EJ who said he is a box of rocks. Um, yes.
Gracias Marta. You are a treasure.
Great job Marta, I can't believe how fast you were able to post such a detailed recap! Bravo!
I agree with Silvia on your great name looKrazia...perfect!
I can't believe she spent a few years in Europe and returns with the same ratty hairstyle & stripper clothes, and still thinking about Pedro!
Does anyone understand why Antonio hates Doris? Did I miss something?
I really hate seeing Aaron as a bad guy, after being sweet Mariano. He is doing such a great job as a slimeball I hope he isn't sealing his fate for future roles.
Yes it looks like they are growing Florida avocados , they are large, shiny green skinned avocados that taste like...nothing. I took a class in key west and was told That it's too humid and soil too sandy to grow Hass avocados, I was bummed! So I eat them Cubano style with sliced onions & lots of lemon . I add Scotch bonett chili sauce which is more islandy but still hot. A necessity for conch salad.
Sorry to ramble, it's 2 am here...goodnight!
I agree with Silvia on your great name looKrazia...perfect!
I can't believe she spent a few years in Europe and returns with the same ratty hairstyle & stripper clothes, and still thinking about Pedro!
Does anyone understand why Antonio hates Doris? Did I miss something?
I really hate seeing Aaron as a bad guy, after being sweet Mariano. He is doing such a great job as a slimeball I hope he isn't sealing his fate for future roles.
Yes it looks like they are growing Florida avocados , they are large, shiny green skinned avocados that taste like...nothing. I took a class in key west and was told That it's too humid and soil too sandy to grow Hass avocados, I was bummed! So I eat them Cubano style with sliced onions & lots of lemon . I add Scotch bonett chili sauce which is more islandy but still hot. A necessity for conch salad.
Sorry to ramble, it's 2 am here...goodnight!
Wow, Marta...this was a very, very talky episode, wasn't it? Thanks for translating all that!
(/random: since Margarito has apparently become a drunk offscreen, maybe Genoveva will be the one to help him turn himself around. It's not like she's relevant for anything else.)
It didn't hit me until this episode, but Marcela Mar could probably pass for Lola Ponce's older (and substantially less slutty) sister. This puts a rather creepy spin on Antonio and Lucrecia's already inappropriate chemistry, IMHO, though it still doesn't explain his relationship with Doris; perhaps it's that she bore him daughters rather than sons, which messes with his raging greaser machismo? (And Greg seems to like/tolerate Doris more than him, though we're still not privy to the reasons for that.)
(/random: since Margarito has apparently become a drunk offscreen, maybe Genoveva will be the one to help him turn himself around. It's not like she's relevant for anything else.)
It didn't hit me until this episode, but Marcela Mar could probably pass for Lola Ponce's older (and substantially less slutty) sister. This puts a rather creepy spin on Antonio and Lucrecia's already inappropriate chemistry, IMHO, though it still doesn't explain his relationship with Doris; perhaps it's that she bore him daughters rather than sons, which messes with his raging greaser machismo? (And Greg seems to like/tolerate Doris more than him, though we're still not privy to the reasons for that.)
I didn't even make it past 8:30CST last night. Your detailed recap is much appreciated.
I'm having a hard time with this one. It's.so.boring. Well, at least to me. Ah well, maybe it will click tonight. If I'm still not into it after Friday I'm out.
Elle, ISTA about Aaron. He is doing almost too good a job in the sleazeball roll. He may end up cast as one para siempre.
I'm having a hard time with this one. It's.so.boring. Well, at least to me. Ah well, maybe it will click tonight. If I'm still not into it after Friday I'm out.
Elle, ISTA about Aaron. He is doing almost too good a job in the sleazeball roll. He may end up cast as one para siempre.
Marta, the recaps are on fire today. Your dialog translation and attention to detail was spectacular. I can't imagine how much time and effort this took.
I was put off by the violence in the first few episodes, haven't been watching and am somewhat lost in the storyline. After reading your recap, you've convinced me to give this another try.
I can't really comment on the show but wanted to express my appreciation for a marvelous job. Bravo Marta.
Diana
I was put off by the violence in the first few episodes, haven't been watching and am somewhat lost in the storyline. After reading your recap, you've convinced me to give this another try.
I can't really comment on the show but wanted to express my appreciation for a marvelous job. Bravo Marta.
Diana
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: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 7:42:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 7:42:00 AM EST
MartaIvett, you are a wonder! I can't believe how quickly you got this up -- and with all that dialogue! My favorite part was also "Was this script on clearance sale?"
And that conversation Antonio had with Camila appeared to be an amalgam of at least four different scripts. In about 5 minutes, he went from you're not really a scientist to you must be here for vengeance to hey baby how 'bout it to I lurrrrrrve you enough to divorce my wife to let's just be friends. QTH??? What was Aarón thinking when he took this job? Or did he just want to show everyone his tummy?
And that conversation Antonio had with Camila appeared to be an amalgam of at least four different scripts. In about 5 minutes, he went from you're not really a scientist to you must be here for vengeance to hey baby how 'bout it to I lurrrrrrve you enough to divorce my wife to let's just be friends. QTH??? What was Aarón thinking when he took this job? Or did he just want to show everyone his tummy?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:30:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:30:00 AM EST
Good work, Marta.
I am wondering whether either of these scenarios is possible:
-- Antonio knocked up Doris and Pigorio or her parents made him marry her
-- Pigorio himself is fooling around with Doris and is the actual sperm donor of either or both of her daughters.
I am wondering whether either of these scenarios is possible:
-- Antonio knocked up Doris and Pigorio or her parents made him marry her
-- Pigorio himself is fooling around with Doris and is the actual sperm donor of either or both of her daughters.
Fabulous and funny job, Marta! Thanks so much!
Inquiring minds want to know:
When did our sainted Pedro turn into a caveman? (And Camila may have a fondness for feathers, but clearly, she is no featherweight herself. I get a backache just watching Rafa hoist Blanca over his manly shoulders).
And when did Margarito fall victim to demon rum and disappear?
What is Margarito's family situation exactly?
Where is his wife? Are both of the young guys his sons or is one the son and the other a friend or godson?
Inquiring minds want to know:
When did our sainted Pedro turn into a caveman? (And Camila may have a fondness for feathers, but clearly, she is no featherweight herself. I get a backache just watching Rafa hoist Blanca over his manly shoulders).
And when did Margarito fall victim to demon rum and disappear?
What is Margarito's family situation exactly?
Where is his wife? Are both of the young guys his sons or is one the son and the other a friend or godson?
UA, those are also the two options i have been thinking about too... anyone's guess between those or any other.
I can't remember who the hell Margarito is?! I guess I was paying less attention than I thought lol.
Sara, Margarito is Pedro's friend who came in 'mojado' with him and was with him in the 18 wheeler and became Mariana's sitter for a while.
Oh I miss your recaps, Marta. It wold be great for us over at Familia to have your ability to transcribe the dialogue. It is so full of slang that I miss a lot of it -- but I love the characters & the mix of light hearted fun and high drama. I just miss all you CME guys. So I thought I'd check in & see what's happening over here. Pretty hard to follow with just a check in now a7 then.
Güera
Güera
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 10:50:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 10:50:00 AM EST
I may miss you -- but I bet you don't miss my typos -- I meant a checkin now AND then
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM EST
"ElTalMajal" !!! (hee-hee-hee)
That's why I am still here following along. Brilliant, entertainment.
Thank you!
That's why I am still here following along. Brilliant, entertainment.
Thank you!
Ay Marta, indeed. Too bad you didn't have a better script to flesh out.
At 10:01 pm last night I wanted to jump up, run to the computer, log on and yell--
Holy Guacamole I saw Green Testicles hanging from Trees, deep in Avocadoland.
I see I wasn't alone. Will comment again, as I see fit later--after I read the rest of the comments.
Anita
At 10:01 pm last night I wanted to jump up, run to the computer, log on and yell--
Holy Guacamole I saw Green Testicles hanging from Trees, deep in Avocadoland.
I see I wasn't alone. Will comment again, as I see fit later--after I read the rest of the comments.
Anita
Marta
What an excellent recap. I don't know how you guys do it to recap entire conversations like that.
All I have to say if any of you know a single real life Pedro can you send me my way. Geez, that was hot how he grabbed her and kissed her.
I love the granddaughters in this TN, well grandpa what goes around comes around, you treat women like dirt, so that's how your granddaughters are treating you.
What an excellent recap. I don't know how you guys do it to recap entire conversations like that.
All I have to say if any of you know a single real life Pedro can you send me my way. Geez, that was hot how he grabbed her and kissed her.
I love the granddaughters in this TN, well grandpa what goes around comes around, you treat women like dirt, so that's how your granddaughters are treating you.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 11:13:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 11:13:00 AM EST
well, anita, ROFLOL! i did not include it in the recap but that's ALSO what i thought. we must be so bored by this tn that we cross right into the perverted thoughts land.
NM--The two "boys" who arrived undocumented are cousins. One is Margarito's son and the other is his primo. I can't remember whose idea it was to cross the border, but clearly Margarito was not happy about it when he told Pedro the "boys" would be arriving soon. It was an episode or two later before they actually arrived and again, I can't remember, which one is which.
Last night I did hear one of them say, "tu padre," clearly indicating that it wasn't HIS padre who was into drinking.
Before that statement, Margarito was an upstanding non-citizen, helping Pedro in the car of the rancho, helping take care of Mariana and helping them move and giving brotherly advice about Pedro's love life. Too bad, Pedro needs a bro, someone besides Tia to talk to. He does enough talking to himself.
Anita
Last night I did hear one of them say, "tu padre," clearly indicating that it wasn't HIS padre who was into drinking.
Before that statement, Margarito was an upstanding non-citizen, helping Pedro in the car of the rancho, helping take care of Mariana and helping them move and giving brotherly advice about Pedro's love life. Too bad, Pedro needs a bro, someone besides Tia to talk to. He does enough talking to himself.
Anita
Hi Guera!
Hey, anybody wondering *where* Elvira and Armando are going to stay if they come to Fresno? It's not like either one of them has money, a job, or any friends.
Hey, anybody wondering *where* Elvira and Armando are going to stay if they come to Fresno? It's not like either one of them has money, a job, or any friends.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 11:46:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 11:46:00 AM EST
guera,... exactly! which brings up the question again... where is the 'beef'($$ of the check)?? did it go anywhere? poor Pedro has no clue why Camila does not mention that.
Thank you kindly, Marta I., and I'm still astonished that you can transcribe these rapid fire conversations like you do.
You know, I am actually feeling sorry for don Bagorio for having such lousy useless hijos. Seriously. And, ladies, how much longer do you imagine Antonio's going to look so studly with his shirt off, given his alcohol consumption?
Re Margarito, I have to wonder if the actor bailed on this mess, and they brought the two young guys out of the Venevision stable for their Big Chance.
And, yeah, I suspect Pedro needed some Ibuprofen after hauling Camila around over his shoulder like that.
You know, I am actually feeling sorry for don Bagorio for having such lousy useless hijos. Seriously. And, ladies, how much longer do you imagine Antonio's going to look so studly with his shirt off, given his alcohol consumption?
Re Margarito, I have to wonder if the actor bailed on this mess, and they brought the two young guys out of the Venevision stable for their Big Chance.
And, yeah, I suspect Pedro needed some Ibuprofen after hauling Camila around over his shoulder like that.
Marta, first thing I thought when I woke up this morning, "My goodness poor Marta got stuck with a very chatty episode." The characters never seem to DO anything (except Abs-toned-io and LooKrazia) they just walk around bitching about this or that.
Anita, "Holy Guacamole " big green testicles, just what I thought, especially after Vivi's brief tutorial yesterday on the meaning of Avocado.
The editing is SO BAD, in this show. Not only Antonio's conversation but Pedro's talking (way too much Anita, I agree) just doesn't seem to roll naturally. Another gripe, the scenes are way too short and choppy.
Elle, you talking about conch salad with avocado is making me hungry!! I haven't even finished my cup of tea yet. We don't think about conch salad much out here in California.
Güera, thanks for popping in!! It's great to hear from you.
Where are Elvira and Armando going to stay? Now that's a darn good question, especially since Camila is forced to stay at Alcatrash.
ElTalMahal, I love it.
Anita, "Holy Guacamole " big green testicles, just what I thought, especially after Vivi's brief tutorial yesterday on the meaning of Avocado.
The editing is SO BAD, in this show. Not only Antonio's conversation but Pedro's talking (way too much Anita, I agree) just doesn't seem to roll naturally. Another gripe, the scenes are way too short and choppy.
Elle, you talking about conch salad with avocado is making me hungry!! I haven't even finished my cup of tea yet. We don't think about conch salad much out here in California.
Güera, thanks for popping in!! It's great to hear from you.
Where are Elvira and Armando going to stay? Now that's a darn good question, especially since Camila is forced to stay at Alcatrash.
ElTalMahal, I love it.
This is to announce the launching of a new weekly (or possibly semi-weekly) on-line news disburser.
The Freesnow Alternative Gazette
Mission Statement: To disburse information otherwise missed by regular news channels regarding the Freesnow area.
We will post Want Ads, Services Offered, along with Notices and For Sale Items for a nominal fee (Four Feathers).
Here is Vol. 1, No. 1
HELP WANTED
#Freesnow Crooked políticos. Needed, an alcalde to "officiate" at high stakes poker games, where ranchos are being bet by two dueling neighboring ranchos. The pay is phenomenal.
Freesnow Police Department. Looking for 6-pack-able-bodied, but clueless, if well-intentioned, cops to preserve and protect the two dueling neighboring ranchos. Must be willing to take salary in raisins or avocados (The Green kind).
#And a corrupt médico or two or three to serve the Freesnow area
SERVICES OFFERED
#Tonki the wonder dog of Duelo. That doggie kept half the cast out of trouble and saved the other half. Pedro needs help.
#Pas-de-Six. New writing team, ready for hire. (DUDES, OUR FEATHER BUDGET ALONE IS ASTRONOMICAL)
FREESNOW ACTIVITIES
*El Talismán Winter Camp for Students of Spanish (where "Camp" is the operative word.)
*Fresno Frenno Brothers Circus—one ring show—Warning: if you close your eyes, you’ll miss everything
SIGN PETITION HERE
#Citizen referendum—We need your support for a legislative initiative to bring siestas legally into the U.S. from Mexico. Avocado Green Cards will be available for a nominal fee. (If passed, each siester will receive a mat with an embroidered slug motif on one corner.)
CLASSIFIED ADS
+New music video starring AntoniOSG, driving around Fresno in an Avocado Green convertible singing some lounge lizard song a la Pablo Montero in Duelo de Pasiones (sorry no returns, all sales final).
+Clearance sale on scripts—all for El Talismán, including extenders, alternate beginnings, alternate middles, but not the end with a boda (special extra—scripts for the 4 or 5 telenovelas that were used to patch this one together in one seamless cliché after another).
FOR SALE
2012 ElTajMahalisman Wine - This fine red table wine, produced with local grapes, is complex and well-rounded, offering a firm structure on the palate and a supple, lingering finish with deep overtones of vanilla, almonds, avocado and orange
Coming soon: Raisin Brandy, Avocado Liqueur. We have applied for a license to sell spirits.
Editor-At-Large
Anita
The Freesnow Alternative Gazette
Mission Statement: To disburse information otherwise missed by regular news channels regarding the Freesnow area.
We will post Want Ads, Services Offered, along with Notices and For Sale Items for a nominal fee (Four Feathers).
Here is Vol. 1, No. 1
HELP WANTED
#Freesnow Crooked políticos. Needed, an alcalde to "officiate" at high stakes poker games, where ranchos are being bet by two dueling neighboring ranchos. The pay is phenomenal.
Freesnow Police Department. Looking for 6-pack-able-bodied, but clueless, if well-intentioned, cops to preserve and protect the two dueling neighboring ranchos. Must be willing to take salary in raisins or avocados (The Green kind).
#And a corrupt médico or two or three to serve the Freesnow area
SERVICES OFFERED
#Tonki the wonder dog of Duelo. That doggie kept half the cast out of trouble and saved the other half. Pedro needs help.
#Pas-de-Six. New writing team, ready for hire. (DUDES, OUR FEATHER BUDGET ALONE IS ASTRONOMICAL)
FREESNOW ACTIVITIES
*El Talismán Winter Camp for Students of Spanish (where "Camp" is the operative word.)
*Fresno Frenno Brothers Circus—one ring show—Warning: if you close your eyes, you’ll miss everything
SIGN PETITION HERE
#Citizen referendum—We need your support for a legislative initiative to bring siestas legally into the U.S. from Mexico. Avocado Green Cards will be available for a nominal fee. (If passed, each siester will receive a mat with an embroidered slug motif on one corner.)
CLASSIFIED ADS
+New music video starring AntoniOSG, driving around Fresno in an Avocado Green convertible singing some lounge lizard song a la Pablo Montero in Duelo de Pasiones (sorry no returns, all sales final).
+Clearance sale on scripts—all for El Talismán, including extenders, alternate beginnings, alternate middles, but not the end with a boda (special extra—scripts for the 4 or 5 telenovelas that were used to patch this one together in one seamless cliché after another).
FOR SALE
2012 ElTajMahalisman Wine - This fine red table wine, produced with local grapes, is complex and well-rounded, offering a firm structure on the palate and a supple, lingering finish with deep overtones of vanilla, almonds, avocado and orange
Coming soon: Raisin Brandy, Avocado Liqueur. We have applied for a license to sell spirits.
Editor-At-Large
Anita
ok, conch/fish/octopus/?? avocado cold salad Puerto Rico style:
6 To 8 slices fresh fish -fillets or replace with chunks of conch or octopus (you can cook/sautee it over a little butter, then let it cool and chill)
Salt and pepper to taste
1/4 c. Lime juice
Butter (enough for cooking seafood if sautee'd)
2 Fresh tomatoes, peeled and chopped
3 Very ripe avocados, mashed or cut in little cubes
2 Tbs. Onions, minced
4 tsp. Chili powder (optional, more or less, to taste)
2 1/2 Tbs. Parsley, minced (optional)
1 Clove of garlic, crushed (or more if you like garlic)
1 Tbs. Olive oil
10-12 spanish olives (seedless or filled manzanilla, amount to taste)
1 can (or less) Sweet red peppers, cut into strips
Cook the fish/seafood, preferrably sautee or boiled in a little salt water,
let it cool then add to the rest of ingredients, mix everything well and chill. this is eaten cold.
(don't add the avocado early, the lime juice will prevent it from getting dark so need to add the lme juice as soon as the avocados are cubed, and mix with juice at once and chill soon after)
once you have it all mixed, add salt / pepper to your taste if desired.
6 To 8 slices fresh fish -fillets or replace with chunks of conch or octopus (you can cook/sautee it over a little butter, then let it cool and chill)
Salt and pepper to taste
1/4 c. Lime juice
Butter (enough for cooking seafood if sautee'd)
2 Fresh tomatoes, peeled and chopped
3 Very ripe avocados, mashed or cut in little cubes
2 Tbs. Onions, minced
4 tsp. Chili powder (optional, more or less, to taste)
2 1/2 Tbs. Parsley, minced (optional)
1 Clove of garlic, crushed (or more if you like garlic)
1 Tbs. Olive oil
10-12 spanish olives (seedless or filled manzanilla, amount to taste)
1 can (or less) Sweet red peppers, cut into strips
Cook the fish/seafood, preferrably sautee or boiled in a little salt water,
let it cool then add to the rest of ingredients, mix everything well and chill. this is eaten cold.
(don't add the avocado early, the lime juice will prevent it from getting dark so need to add the lme juice as soon as the avocados are cubed, and mix with juice at once and chill soon after)
once you have it all mixed, add salt / pepper to your taste if desired.
Jajá Anita, you sure make the afternoon go faster. My favorite part was "scripts for the 4 or 5 telenovelas that were used to patch this one together in one seamless cliché after another..." (I also read "supple" as "stubble" the first time.)
I just finished putting 3 TNs on reserve for my Spanish 101 students -- hope they learn some good vocabulary!
I just finished putting 3 TNs on reserve for my Spanish 101 students -- hope they learn some good vocabulary!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 12:34:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 12:34:00 PM EST
Anita, ROFLMAO!! I love The Freesnow Alternative Gazette. You are one very funny woman.
Marta, amiga, thank you for the recipe! I'm adding it to my collection. I'm thinking that abalone would be an acceptable substitute for the conch. Sounds delish.
Marta, amiga, thank you for the recipe! I'm adding it to my collection. I'm thinking that abalone would be an acceptable substitute for the conch. Sounds delish.
Mike--Where are you??? We need Martaivett's Conch salad recipe over on La Plaza de Caray. If I knew how to do it, I would.
Anita
Anita
Anita,
Thanks for clarifying who's who in the junior mojado generation.
I'm signing up right now for the Freesnow Alternative Gazette (though I'd call it the Freesnow Underground Gazette to avoid ugly apodos).
I'm not sure we're selling SCRIPTS as such. I'd say they were TRANSCRIPTS. Okay listen up:
Have you heard or seen even one single well-written scene yet? I thought not.
Well I believe THERE ARE NO WRITERS. The actors are improvising, making it up as they go along. Each one gets a little slip of paper before the camersas roll:
"BE the skank"
"BE the rabid woodchuck"
"BE the affectless troll"
The scenes are later spliced together in the Venevision CineRobotics lab.
Economy or art? You decide.
Thanks for clarifying who's who in the junior mojado generation.
I'm signing up right now for the Freesnow Alternative Gazette (though I'd call it the Freesnow Underground Gazette to avoid ugly apodos).
I'm not sure we're selling SCRIPTS as such. I'd say they were TRANSCRIPTS. Okay listen up:
Have you heard or seen even one single well-written scene yet? I thought not.
Well I believe THERE ARE NO WRITERS. The actors are improvising, making it up as they go along. Each one gets a little slip of paper before the camersas roll:
"BE the skank"
"BE the rabid woodchuck"
"BE the affectless troll"
The scenes are later spliced together in the Venevision CineRobotics lab.
Economy or art? You decide.
OMG NovelaMaven, that's it! It's Live at the Multi-Species Improv!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 1:08:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 1:08:00 PM EST
You all are so funny. I'm enjoying Winter Camp so much I think I'll stay on for the Spring session as well.
I think we should keep making more wishes. We wished for the normalcy of meals, and people started eating, or at least sitting down in front of food while they talked. We wished for them to actually do stuff, and some of them started doing ranch work and dropping kids off at school and kidnapping people and then chucking them over fences.
Now I wish Pedro would explain to Camila about Mariana, that when she whines about being thrown out in the street with nothing he'll say something about the money he tried to give her mother (whatever did become of that?), and that Camila will stop believing the worst as soon as some evil jerk suggests it.
I think we should keep making more wishes. We wished for the normalcy of meals, and people started eating, or at least sitting down in front of food while they talked. We wished for them to actually do stuff, and some of them started doing ranch work and dropping kids off at school and kidnapping people and then chucking them over fences.
Now I wish Pedro would explain to Camila about Mariana, that when she whines about being thrown out in the street with nothing he'll say something about the money he tried to give her mother (whatever did become of that?), and that Camila will stop believing the worst as soon as some evil jerk suggests it.
I second Julia's wishes.
I wish Pedro would start looking a bit more hot (as in ooh la la) and wear better-fitting clothes.
I wish Pedro would start looking a bit more hot (as in ooh la la) and wear better-fitting clothes.
BlueLass--Which tn's are you recommending--Winter Camp counselors want to know.
NM--Due to the clamor, The Alternative Gazette is changing it's name to the Freesnow Underground Gazette. Wait for the 1st issue under the new banner--we are adding Wishes to the Classified Ad pages.
NM--Due to the clamor, The Alternative Gazette is changing it's name to the Freesnow Underground Gazette. Wait for the 1st issue under the new banner--we are adding Wishes to the Classified Ad pages.
Julia, I'm afraid clearing up malentendidos is contrary to the Telenovela Laws. We'll have better luck wishing for things we might actually get, like fruit on trees and better hairdos.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:02:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:02:00 PM EST
Anita, I got them Rubí, Mañana Es Para Siempre, and Alborada -- on the recommendations of various Caray-mates. I will add my copy of Corazón Salvaje when I'm done watching it.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:04:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:04:00 PM EST
Thanks for a good recap. Totally missed the part about Margarito bailing on the sh...I mean, "drinking". Good choice on his part. Maybe he's with Mariana living hapily far away from Fresno and all this nonsense. At least the actors look like their having fun. Pedro certainly seemed amused after cavemanning Camila. And after kissing her.
What's with Antonio and Lucrazy thinking they are so hot that they can conquer anyone? Ok, they're hot. But also psycho and alcoholic. Must turn off brain, and turn of captions and use this show as a practice in understanding Spanish since the recpas are better than the real thing.
Nice to see in the advances though that Camila will fight back. Thank you writers (or "writers"). Also thank you for lowering the bar enough that my fantasy about writing my own novela is starting to look possible.
Kelly
What's with Antonio and Lucrazy thinking they are so hot that they can conquer anyone? Ok, they're hot. But also psycho and alcoholic. Must turn off brain, and turn of captions and use this show as a practice in understanding Spanish since the recpas are better than the real thing.
Nice to see in the advances though that Camila will fight back. Thank you writers (or "writers"). Also thank you for lowering the bar enough that my fantasy about writing my own novela is starting to look possible.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:11:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:11:00 PM EST
Thank you Marta!
Cap'n Sylvia "Abs-toned-io" SO FUNNY!
I find it ironic that Camila is upset over Pedro's alleged affair but she doesn't even know he's MARRIED!? How can that be kept secret for all these years? And does anyone know how long the "Anos despues" sequence was? 4 years? Is Camila fresh out of college? That's a little scary that Pigorio would hire "interns" to cure his ranch of a plague. Wow.
Unless they introduce a new set, Elvira and son are going to have to land at Alcatrash, El Tal-Majal or the CVS/yogurt shop/ATM!!!
Katy
Cap'n Sylvia "Abs-toned-io" SO FUNNY!
I find it ironic that Camila is upset over Pedro's alleged affair but she doesn't even know he's MARRIED!? How can that be kept secret for all these years? And does anyone know how long the "Anos despues" sequence was? 4 years? Is Camila fresh out of college? That's a little scary that Pigorio would hire "interns" to cure his ranch of a plague. Wow.
Unless they introduce a new set, Elvira and son are going to have to land at Alcatrash, El Tal-Majal or the CVS/yogurt shop/ATM!!!
Katy
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:21:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:21:00 PM EST
You guys are so funny!
Marta - As always your translations are so appreciated. I am so glad you stayed on as a recapper.
Margarito must have been watching this show and it led him to drink. A nice plotline would be that someone actually responded to the Mariana flyers and Marg went to investigate, found her, decided to keep her for himself, and of course she is unaware of the deception.
Bill C - Doris does look a lot like Slutcecia, affirming our twisted Antonio idea.
Anita - love the news bits! And your Holy Guacamole Hanging Green Testicles line will be oft repeated, I am sure. What a riot!
Rosemary la Otra
Marta - As always your translations are so appreciated. I am so glad you stayed on as a recapper.
Margarito must have been watching this show and it led him to drink. A nice plotline would be that someone actually responded to the Mariana flyers and Marg went to investigate, found her, decided to keep her for himself, and of course she is unaware of the deception.
Bill C - Doris does look a lot like Slutcecia, affirming our twisted Antonio idea.
Anita - love the news bits! And your Holy Guacamole Hanging Green Testicles line will be oft repeated, I am sure. What a riot!
Rosemary la Otra
Marta:
Thank you so much for your delightful conversation-filled recap. I love El TalMajal and LooKrazia. Really great word play.Plus I think you should get a badge of honor for being willing to listen to all that dialog. Mercy!
Aaron must have needed work or wanted to be in the US when he took this job. He really can act and eats up the screen with his energy
but the script is nonsensical.
UA: I agree with you on your second scenario. Gregorio definitely has a thing for Doris and my guess is that he had a long-term affair with her. Yukamundo!
Marta: you said it perfectly, "Where is the beef (check)?" Don't make us wait until the end to find the "lost" money or Mariana!
It is not fair to say that I am completely bored by El Talisman. I love my fellow recappers and commenters and I am interested in:
1. Antonio's abs
2. Mariana's whereabouts and well being
3. The money
4. A telenovela-worthy demise for Gregorio.
5. The type of great avocado plague from which El Alcatraz suffers. Just what is it that makes Camila so sure it won't cross the fence, any fence, no matter how high?
EJ
Thank you so much for your delightful conversation-filled recap. I love El TalMajal and LooKrazia. Really great word play.Plus I think you should get a badge of honor for being willing to listen to all that dialog. Mercy!
Aaron must have needed work or wanted to be in the US when he took this job. He really can act and eats up the screen with his energy
but the script is nonsensical.
UA: I agree with you on your second scenario. Gregorio definitely has a thing for Doris and my guess is that he had a long-term affair with her. Yukamundo!
Marta: you said it perfectly, "Where is the beef (check)?" Don't make us wait until the end to find the "lost" money or Mariana!
It is not fair to say that I am completely bored by El Talisman. I love my fellow recappers and commenters and I am interested in:
1. Antonio's abs
2. Mariana's whereabouts and well being
3. The money
4. A telenovela-worthy demise for Gregorio.
5. The type of great avocado plague from which El Alcatraz suffers. Just what is it that makes Camila so sure it won't cross the fence, any fence, no matter how high?
EJ
I am interested in:
1) Rafa's cute "patas de gallo"
2) Where Camila buys her boots
3) Mariana's dondeabouts
4) More horses
5) The limpid pool in the music video
6) More Tracy!
1) Rafa's cute "patas de gallo"
2) Where Camila buys her boots
3) Mariana's dondeabouts
4) More horses
5) The limpid pool in the music video
6) More Tracy!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:34:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:34:00 PM EST
Anita:
Your want-ads are fabulous. I wanna mat with the banana slug on it.
How about recipes for food to made made with "plagued" avaocodos, a new delicacy?
I need a jug of the ElTalMajal red, STAT.
Mike, I can't believe you could feel sorry for Gregorio for ONE minute! His hijos are useless but he is lower that a boa constrictor's belly after eating a whole 'alcatraz'!
EJ
Your want-ads are fabulous. I wanna mat with the banana slug on it.
How about recipes for food to made made with "plagued" avaocodos, a new delicacy?
I need a jug of the ElTalMajal red, STAT.
Mike, I can't believe you could feel sorry for Gregorio for ONE minute! His hijos are useless but he is lower that a boa constrictor's belly after eating a whole 'alcatraz'!
EJ
Blue Lass...
we think very alike... I can't resist Rafa's patas de gallo either adn i want tracy back to tell us where the check went.
we think very alike... I can't resist Rafa's patas de gallo either adn i want tracy back to tell us where the check went.
Just wanted to pop in and say thanks to Sylvia, Karen, R la O and Anita for all your kind words.
Robey
Robey
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:42:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 2:42:00 PM EST
I've had a crappy week but I want to thank each and every one of you for making me laugh, giggle and chortle every day. Blue Lass - what do you have your 101s do with the TNs to help them learn? I am curious for my own sake. For the most part I just sit slack jawed in front of the boob tube. I should do more I think.
Now that I've got a moment, I want to give many, many thanks for the kind words and encouragement from everyone who made my debut so much less scary: Anita, Bill C, Cap'n Sylvia, Carlos, Daisy, EJ, Elle, Emilia, JudyB, Julia, Karen, Katy, Kelly, MartaIvett, Michele, Mike, NovelaMaven, R la O, Sara, Vivi, and the several Anony-mice. And now that I know how hard this is, I appreciate all of the recappers I've been reading for the last year even more! You guys rock!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 3:04:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 3:04:00 PM EST
NovelaMaven:
O my! You made me laugh with the idea of the scriptless telenovela. We could use this method in teaching empathy for the experiences of folks with personality disorders:
"Direction to Julieta Rosen as Elvira, "Be a borderline personality disorder! Yes, you are the center of the universe and other people are stupid, never live up to your expectations and always do you wrong. Hate them for your perception of their inadequacies! Make them PAY! Never, ever, forget a perceived wrong."
Blue Lass: The only problem with limpid pools in Florida is that they are often filled with alligators.
EJ
O my! You made me laugh with the idea of the scriptless telenovela. We could use this method in teaching empathy for the experiences of folks with personality disorders:
"Direction to Julieta Rosen as Elvira, "Be a borderline personality disorder! Yes, you are the center of the universe and other people are stupid, never live up to your expectations and always do you wrong. Hate them for your perception of their inadequacies! Make them PAY! Never, ever, forget a perceived wrong."
Blue Lass: The only problem with limpid pools in Florida is that they are often filled with alligators.
EJ
Sara, I'm not doing anything specific yet with the TNs in my class -- just making them available for extra practice. I talk about them so much (I can't imagine why!) that some of the students are really curious. And I think it's a great way to work on fluency, especially in an area where there are few Spanish speakers to talk to. With the English subtitles, they won't miss a minute of the action...
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 3:07:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 3:07:00 PM EST
Marta...you nailed it all in your title. What a disaster this telenovela is...and what a great job all of you recappers are doing. If Televisa checks the number of comments, without reading the content, they'll think they have a mega-hit on their hands.
Blue Lass...when I click on el Talisman recaps, your opening paragraph is unreadable. It's alright on the page, just not in the listings. Don't know if it can be fixed. Check with Sylvia.
Blue Lass...when I click on el Talisman recaps, your opening paragraph is unreadable. It's alright on the page, just not in the listings. Don't know if it can be fixed. Check with Sylvia.
Marta, sorry I'm late commenting. I read your marvelous recap this morning and have just now gotten around to finishing all the comments which are also hilarious. I think it is a testament to our recappers for this show that so many are following the recaps and commenting.
I was planning to really study those trees last night to try and identify the crop... well duh... as you noted...I think we can safely say it's avocados.
Thanks so much again for your elegant translations.
So now Margarito is hitting the bottle? Can't say that I blame him. I wonder what he prefers.
Greg and Lucrezia lean toward Tequila. I think Stevie liked brandy. Antonio prefers whisky (I'm guessing Scotch) over Tequila, but enjoys the occasional beer as well a wine out of a leather sack. I think in a pinch, he'll drink just about anything.
I don't think I've seen Doris drink yet.
Of all the TNs I've seen, this is shaping up to be the worst. Can anyone remember seeing one that rivals ElT?
I'm hoping for a Mariana sighting tonight.
Carlos
I was planning to really study those trees last night to try and identify the crop... well duh... as you noted...I think we can safely say it's avocados.
Thanks so much again for your elegant translations.
So now Margarito is hitting the bottle? Can't say that I blame him. I wonder what he prefers.
Greg and Lucrezia lean toward Tequila. I think Stevie liked brandy. Antonio prefers whisky (I'm guessing Scotch) over Tequila, but enjoys the occasional beer as well a wine out of a leather sack. I think in a pinch, he'll drink just about anything.
I don't think I've seen Doris drink yet.
Of all the TNs I've seen, this is shaping up to be the worst. Can anyone remember seeing one that rivals ElT?
I'm hoping for a Mariana sighting tonight.
Carlos
Sara - Do you have a Kindle, by chance? I put a Spanish dictionary on mine and about once a week as I watch the show I take the time to look up the words I don't know that I see in the Spanish cc's. Or you could do the same thing using your computer. I am still seriously lacking in my Spanish skills but my vocabulary has really increased.
Word verification: scipsy. What I've been saying all along we need to drink to get through this crap.
R la O
Word verification: scipsy. What I've been saying all along we need to drink to get through this crap.
R la O
I noticed that, too. I have to cut & paste from Word, because my Zombie Keys don't work in Google products anymore (they USED to.)
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 5:10:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 5:10:00 PM EST
Carlos,
"Of all the TNs I've seen, this is shaping up to be the worst. Can anyone remember seeing one that rivals ElT?"
No. This is the worst I've ever seen -- and I'm SO thrilled to be associated with it in some small way.
"Of all the TNs I've seen, this is shaping up to be the worst. Can anyone remember seeing one that rivals ElT?"
No. This is the worst I've ever seen -- and I'm SO thrilled to be associated with it in some small way.
I fixed it. I have no idea what was going on with that, but it seemed to be displaying in HTML, bah. I just did a cut and paste of the first paragraph and then "updated" Blue Lass's recap.
Carlos, this might very well be the worst telenovela or at least one of them. Barrera de Amor was absolutely dreadful. Duelo de Pasiones was pretty bad but so darn campy it was fun to recap. I thought Acorralada was horrible, but it had its own style of camp as well.
Carlos, this might very well be the worst telenovela or at least one of them. Barrera de Amor was absolutely dreadful. Duelo de Pasiones was pretty bad but so darn campy it was fun to recap. I thought Acorralada was horrible, but it had its own style of camp as well.
NovelaMaven, "I'm SO thrilled to be associated with it in some small way." Ha! My sentiments exactly.
Carlos, I think Fuego en la Sangre was worse than this. Abtonio's assets and whole screen presence make up for a lot of deficiencies.
Sylvia, Duelo de Pasiones is one of my all time faves. You recappers were fantastic and can we ever forget our Tonki and Gaspar?
"Me gustaría un tequila antes que yo vaya ver la hada."
"¡Woof, woof!"
Carlos
"Me gustaría un tequila antes que yo vaya ver la hada."
"¡Woof, woof!"
Carlos
I knew when everyone was raving about CME , my first telenovela, that the next one I watched would not be as good, but I never dreamed it would be considered one of the worst!
However, I now know I will like any TN thrown my way cuz I am actually finding this ride pretty fun. Thank you Recappers and fellow commentors!
R la O
However, I now know I will like any TN thrown my way cuz I am actually finding this ride pretty fun. Thank you Recappers and fellow commentors!
R la O
"No. This is the worst I've ever seen -- and I'm SO thrilled to be associated with it in some small way."
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So funny. This is the worst I've seen, but the best snark I've encountered. EVAR.
R la O and Blue Lass
I've got a wordreference app on my I-phone that I use while I watch and an old fashioned dictionary, too. I'm just kind of half-a$$ed about my approach, though. Some words I look up, others not. For example: What possessed me to look up moño (bow), pozo (well), trapeador(mop) and trapear (to mop) while watching UFCS? I have no idea, but I did. I also tend to look up the words I figured out on my own thanks to context...never words that I positively didn't get. Go figure.
Oh, and I rarely remember what I look up. lol. Or I write stuff down and never look it up. Like "achicopalado" What the heck does that mean? Wordreference says "to intimidate"...but I don't seem to remember that was what it meant when I heard it.
Sorry to blather on....
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So funny. This is the worst I've seen, but the best snark I've encountered. EVAR.
R la O and Blue Lass
I've got a wordreference app on my I-phone that I use while I watch and an old fashioned dictionary, too. I'm just kind of half-a$$ed about my approach, though. Some words I look up, others not. For example: What possessed me to look up moño (bow), pozo (well), trapeador(mop) and trapear (to mop) while watching UFCS? I have no idea, but I did. I also tend to look up the words I figured out on my own thanks to context...never words that I positively didn't get. Go figure.
Oh, and I rarely remember what I look up. lol. Or I write stuff down and never look it up. Like "achicopalado" What the heck does that mean? Wordreference says "to intimidate"...but I don't seem to remember that was what it meant when I heard it.
Sorry to blather on....
Yeah, I was pretty sure it wasn't "intimidated". Blast you wordreference! *shakes fist at the heavens*
Carlos, your quote made me absolutely howl! I'll never forget the characters of Luba and Gaspar. Gosh, that was fun. I have a friend who moved to the mountains, got a dog, and named her Tonki. At least when I visit them I get to re-live the wonderfulness that is Tonki. She even looks like the original Tonki. She chases away mountain lions. Didn't Tonki #1 do that too?
Sylvia, I don't think there was anything that Tonki couldn't do. I'm pretty sure that he was a Belgian Malanois. They are awesome dogs.
Luba was great. I loved how she would punctuate her sentences with that butcher knife... Yikes.
I remember seeing Gaspar in another TN as a male stripper.
Carlos
Luba was great. I loved how she would punctuate her sentences with that butcher knife... Yikes.
I remember seeing Gaspar in another TN as a male stripper.
Carlos
Glad you like it Sara. I couldn't be happier that avocados are the crop. They are, without a doubt, my favorite food in the world. They were my favorite food before I ever knew what a testicle was, just in case some of you out there have naughty minds and were wondering.
Observations about Pedro:
1. Pedro never consumated his marriage with Marianna? Correct?
2. Pedro turns down Lucy at every oppunity. Correct?
3. Although we saw Pedro kissing Cammie, we never saw them advance past the kissing stage.
4. We've never seen him visit a "professional woman" or "a professional establishments for extra special massages". Correct?
5. And lastly, he doesn't tend the sheep. At least, I haven't seen any sheep on El Talisman or El Alcatraz.
Other than occassionally grabbing Cammie and kissing her senseless to shut her up, how does Pedro release all of that hot, steamy pent-up animalistic agression that he must be experiencing on a daily bases? Tia? Does anyone know?
1. Pedro never consumated his marriage with Marianna? Correct?
2. Pedro turns down Lucy at every oppunity. Correct?
3. Although we saw Pedro kissing Cammie, we never saw them advance past the kissing stage.
4. We've never seen him visit a "professional woman" or "a professional establishments for extra special massages". Correct?
5. And lastly, he doesn't tend the sheep. At least, I haven't seen any sheep on El Talisman or El Alcatraz.
Other than occassionally grabbing Cammie and kissing her senseless to shut her up, how does Pedro release all of that hot, steamy pent-up animalistic agression that he must be experiencing on a daily bases? Tia? Does anyone know?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 7:41:00 PM EST
: Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 7:41:00 PM EST
OMG! I get home from work and what's the second thing I see (the first being the cat's throw-up)? A big, huge green hanging testicle! Thanks, Sylvia, for the roar! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! The snark on this just gets better each day.
Marta- Muchas gracias amigis! (as Pina on Familia would say) I didn't watch, but now have a perfect picture of all the inane conversations that took place.
Sylvia- I LOVE the new profile photo. ;-)
This is by far the worst tn I have ever (NOT) seen. I can't even take it. I turn off the tv and get on the treadmill for the hour it's on. It's great for my health in many ways-- cardio workout while I don't watch it, and great belly laughs the next day when I read the recaps and comments.
Marta- Muchas gracias amigis! (as Pina on Familia would say) I didn't watch, but now have a perfect picture of all the inane conversations that took place.
Sylvia- I LOVE the new profile photo. ;-)
This is by far the worst tn I have ever (NOT) seen. I can't even take it. I turn off the tv and get on the treadmill for the hour it's on. It's great for my health in many ways-- cardio workout while I don't watch it, and great belly laughs the next day when I read the recaps and comments.
Now there's an idea, Vivi -- if I do yoga for the whole hour I'll be calmer, and I can't possibly get into a more ridiculous position than any of the characters.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 10, 2012 at 9:11:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 10, 2012 at 9:11:00 AM EST
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