Monday, February 06, 2012
El Talismán #6 Mon 2/6/12 Updated
Some Random Street in Fresno Outside of the Bank
P Ibby helped Marianna into the truck (those nuns taught him right). After securely shutting the door, he notices Camila noticing him and Marianna. His eyes swing to Marianna then swiftly swing back to land on Camilia. How’s he gonna explain this? I don’t know P Ibby, I can’t help you on this one. This looks pretty bad!
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Back at the Bank
Enraged, Camila chose to take the high road and walk away (if it was me, there would have been some domestic violence going down in front of the Bank of Fresno). P Ibby can’t let her walk off with her dignity. He trots over to her and grabs her arm to prevent her from leaving. He wants to know how she doing. She tells him pretty good considering everything he’s done to her. He thinks she’s angry about his wife. She attempts to walk away again, but he reaches out and pulls her back to him. He asks if she still loves him. “Hell no! After what you have done to me!” They are having two different conversations. Finally she tells him that she thinks he was working with Don Gagorio (that name cracks me up) when he won El Talisman. Boy that was some powerful impactada music!
El Alcatraz in a Barn
Doris, the third wheel, tells Lucretia that it doesn’t matter if AntoniOSG does not love her. She’s not leaving. The lights dim in the barn and she begins to sing a rousing rendition of And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going from the movie Dream Girls. She’s gonna get an Emmy for this. I’m sure. Lucretia wants to know if she’s staying for Don Gag’s money. Doris is staying so that she can see AntoniOSG suffer (I think I like Doris now). Lucretia says something about sending him running to the arms of another woman (I am going to keep all of my gutter thoughts to myself).
Back at the Bank
P Ibby denies that he works for Don G, but he doesn’t tell Camila where he got the money to bet. She doesn’t believe him.
El Alcatraz
Drunk, AntoniOSG barges into his father’s office. He tells him that he wants to divorce Doris because she’s not as hot as his sister. His sister is a decent woman and doesn’t date married men. I think that’s what he said…my CC wasn’t working at the time. Don G informs him that he will be disinherited if she divorces Doris. She’s the mother of his grandchildren (and we know how much he cares for his grandchildren! He killed one before it was done baking!) Channeling Marlon Brando, AntoniOSG stumbles out of the room.
Back at the Bank
Blah Blah Blah. You’re a bum. My father didn’t deserve this. I still don’t believe you. For the third time Cammie attempts to walk away and P. Ibby pulls her back to him.
El Talisman-Back in the Barn
Even the horse doesn’t care for the conversation. He’s just there because he was guaranteed a bucket of hay if he promised to stay calm during the scene. Doris (the third wheel): I want AntoniOSG to be miserable. Lucretia: My brother doesn’t love you. You’ll be old, broke and alone if you don’t let him go.
Back at the bank again!
Camila continues to berate P Ibby. He grabs her and says that he doesn’t want it to end this way. I will do anything for this scene to end! She demands that release her, they struggle a little and she slaps him. Instead of slapping her back (like I would have done), he yanks her against his body and lays a big kiss on her. Oh my gosh, it was just like Rhett and Scarlett all over again, but without the staircase, Miss Prissy or any sexual chemistry whatsoever! Did the producers bother to screen test these two before they were cast? This chick definitely ain’t no Vivian Lee, but even Vivian did a screen test. I’ve got a better kiss from my neighbor’s dog and he was only expecting a biscuit afterwards. Oh thank goodness, the scene is over. I’m absolutely sure that Marianna was bored sitting in that truck watching all of this.
UC Davis
They’ve arrived.
El Talisman
Tracy’s bags are packed. She’s quit her job at the ranch. The new housekeeper gives Camila’s mail to Tracy because they will see each other soon. An envelope addressed to Elvira falls on the floor. Tracy takes that envelope and the rest of the mail with her.
UC Davis
Umm. I currently attend school in the UC system so, I’m pretty sure they speak English there. Anyways Cammie’s gonna get a monthly check. She’s very happy.
The Home of P Ibby, Margarito y Marianna (two men and a crazy lady).
It looks like it’s moving day. P Ibby and Marianna are getting ready to go to New York. Pedro thanks Margarito for helping them move while they travel to New York. Suddenly, some chick that I have never seen before dropped a box full of baby clothes. Marianna drops to her knees and mourns the loss of her baby. Mi hijo!
Hospital
Marianna has lost it. The trip is off. Doctor’s orders. She’s lost her memory for good.
El Talisman
Speaking of sexual tension, in this scene, we find the incestuous duo hanging out in the bushes together. Get your brain out of the gutter. Lucretia was merely spying on the entrance of the El Talisman with binoculars. Her brother “just happened” to be walking by and spotted her in the bushes. It was totally innocent. I swear. Lucretia sees P Ibby and Marianna moving in.
Side note: there is more foliage growing on the house than on the grounds of El Talisman.
El Talisman Interior
Marianna doesn’t recognize the house. Her aunt takes her upstairs to her room. Is Dormitila Margarito’s wife, because he was bossing her around during this scene. Dormitila questions why a married man would not sleep in the same room as his wife. P Ibby says Camila’s name.
UC Davis
Elvira and Armando don’t like the tiny apartment.
El Talisman
P Ibby and Margarito are in Cammie’s bedroom. Margarito informs him of Estupido’s suicide.
UC Davis
Sorry. I don’t understand what they were talking about. Can someone help me? I think she’s got a job, but she’s on probation. Cammie has managed to find a college student friend who looks older than she does.
El Talisman Cammie’s Bedroom
P Ibby is shocked that Estupido killed himself. He tells Margarito not to touch or move anything in the room. He will be moving into it. Cammie only lived there for two days! Marianna probably decorated the room.
El Alcatraz
Doris tells Don G that P Ibby and Marianna have moved in. Marianna can’t remember anything. Doris seems to flirt with Don G. This is disturbing. I don’t know what Don G said to himself once she left the room.
El Talisman
Marianna, P Ibby and Tia are eating breakfast. Who the hell are you people? Marianna can’t identify them and goes outside for some fresh air. Don G’s men prepare to strike. 5 seconds ago, he was at the breakfast table, but P Ibby is now outside walking towards the lake with Margarito. Lucretia (wearing more clothes that usual), approaches the men. Meanwhile, DG and his sidekick kidnap Marianna by pretending to be someone she knows. They toss her kicking and screaming into the back of a black SUV. No one hears her screams.
Back at the Lake
P Ibby is explaining to Lucretia that he doesn’t want her and never will. Tia runs up to them and tells him that Marianna is missing. He runs off to find her.
UC Davis
Elvira is complaining about her living situation. Cammie points out that they had no other place to go.
A Very Dark and Scary Street Corner Somewhere in California
Don G drops Marianna off of a street corner. She begs him to take him not to leave her. She doesn’t know who or where she is. He leaves her to wander the streets.
Police Station
P Ibby and Tia go to the station to file a missing person report. What is AntoniOSG doing there? Whatever it is…it's got to be serious. Look at the shirt he’s got on! It’s tuck in and its got buttons and everything! He’s not wearing his standard uniform (tight, paper-thin, tear-away t-shirt issued to all male strippers and Hulk Hogan). The belt is where the drunk, horny ladies can deposit their dollars (Bet ya didn’t know that). The “cop” standing against the wall is really hot. He’s also a dancer, he has a gig tonight. I can tell by the shirt.
We learn that AntoniOSG is there to say that P Ibby murdered Marianna for the money. He says P Ibby took the money from Marianna.
UC Davis
Elvira is still complaining.
Police Station
AntoniOSG says that P Ibby killed Marianna to get her money. The detective seems to believe AntoniOSG.
Dark and Scary Corner
Marianna is asking people to help her, but she doesn’t know her name or where she came from. People leave her alone because they believe she’s crazy.
Some Bar
Don G and whatever that guy’s name is are discussing putting Marianna on the street. I think Don G says that he feels bad that he may never know what happened to her. I think. I’m not great at this yet. Whatever His Name Is is concerned that Marianna may regain her memory, but Don G says it irreversible (who is the narc at El Talisman?) Besides if she does, they can easily kill her.
Dark and Scary Corner
Marianna is raped by homeless two men.
Police Station
AntoniOSG demands to know where P. Ibby got the money or why he would pay for a ranch he already owns? Estupido has a family and he was trying to help him out. Tia backs up P Ibby. The detective is letting AntoniOSG lead the investigation. He’s got on that tucked in shirt, so obviously he’s qualified. Even the police are taking him seriously now. During the comercial AntoniOSG will take the oath and be sworn in. P Ibby tells them to ask Elvira. The cop says no one knows where she is.
Commercial. Even though I don’t like AnotoniOSG, I do like to watch him riding that horse all oiled up and shirtless.
UC Davis
Cammie tells her mother that she can’t go back to being Don G’s lover. Armando overhears when he walks into the room. He asks if this is true.
Bar
Don G says that they are going to accuse P Ibby of killing Marianna. When he’s in jail, they will take over El Talisman. He tells Whatever His Name is to stop drinking so much because he has to drive them home.
Police Station
More accusations. More denials. Tia pleads with the detective to…detect.
Bar
Don G says no one can know where Elvira and the “kids” are.
UC Davis
Elvira asks Armando not to hate her for sleeping with Don G. She needed someone. Cammie asks her mother to promise never to return with Dong G. I didn’t hear Elvira agree never to see Don G again.
El Alcatraz
Don G and Whatever His Name Is are in the living room. Their exhausted from a wild night of drinking and leaving a defenseless woman on a street corner. Good Golly! AntoniOSG enters the room shirtless. He is a beautiful man. I paused the DVR to get a better look (for research). He might have a 12 pack. I’ll have to count again later. His pants are undone. I would like to thank the casting director, the wardrobe people and his parents for mating. I don’t like him, but…he is a beautiful man and I don’t care about the conversation. But I think he’s telling them what happened at police station. Somebody’s searching for an attorney? I will have to rewind the tape again and again to see what he said. What? I’m trying to learn Spanish!
El Talisman
P Ibby thanks Tia for trusting in him. He can’t believe they are accusing him of murder.
Light and Scary Street Corner
Another man approaches Marianna and she becomes hysterical.
UC Davis
The geriatric college students (Cammie and her friend) are discussing their love lives. Cammie’s running out of money. There are holes all over her sweater. She can’t even afford clothes from Olsen’s General Store any more.
El Talisman
Both outside and inside, they are discussing Marianna. P Ibby gets in his truck to leave and the feminine half of the incestuous duo is hiding in the truck. At first he seems to be happy about it but he drives her home and delivers her to her father.
UC Davis
I think Elvira asked her son to help her get revenge of Don G. In another part of town, the two geriatric college students are still discussing her love for P Ibby.
El Alcatraz
Don G grabs his daughter, and in a fit of rage he almost pimp slaps her. He stops himself and instead tells her that he’s sending her butt to Europe. Lucky Europeans.
El Talisman
The police are there to arrest P Ibby. Days later, the trial begins. I’m confused because Don G told his daughter that she was going to Europe the next day. While everyone is entering the courthouse, the incestuous duo are at the airport. Doesn’t that mean that the trial began the next day?
Court Short Long Story
"Days Later", Don G and the poker monitor are walking into the court house. Don G hopes that the judge will throw the entire book and the gavel at P. Ibby. The poker guy that will still not guarantee that P. Ibby will sell El Talisman. Following closely behind them are Tia, P. Ibby and Margarito. I think P. Ibby told Margarito that he is in charge of El Talisman if he gets locked up. P. Ibby give Tia a kiss and leave to find out his fate. Margarito follows him into the courthouse and Tia asks the Virgin Mary for help with this.
Fresno International Airport
The incestuous duo arrive at the airport. AntoniOSG is pulling her luggage. He's not wearing his official button down shirt, so he must be off police duty right now. The siblings are curiously standing uncomfortably within one another's personal space. Lucretia twists her hair. I've heard body language experts say that when we women play with our hair, we're flirting. Surely this is not the case between the two of them. But, I'm a little confused because there's no one else around them. Hmmmm. Hey! What are you trying to imply? Doesn't every brother and sister stand within kissing distance when they talk to each other? Lucretia tells her brother that she doesn't want to go to Europe. (Gosh, I wish I had a father that got mad and punished me by sending me on free trip to Europe!) AntoniOSG tells her to forget that poor guy. He will only bring them problems. Lucretia declares that P. Ibby will be hers. Antonio believes that P. Ibby will be sentence to 20 or 30 years in prison. He ends the conversation by saying "Good Luck, Slut." He's been a little cranky ever since his father told him about P. Ibby bringing her home.
Not five minutes later, he's declared innocent and comes out dressed in the same clothes. Everyone was dressed in the same clothes! His trial and deliberation were all wrapped up in 5 minutes. He went through a trial for kidnapping or murder, was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, and was back out on the street in 5 minutes. I've been to court. It took ten minutes for the deputies to perform a body cavity search on me when I went through security for jury duty. Hugs, kisses and smiles for everyone. Obviously Don G was not pleased. He told P. Ibby that he was gonna pay for what he's done.
El Talisman or some other mansion
I thought Tracy quit. I'm confused. Didn't she have a suitcase? Didn't she walk out the door? She's in the kitchen cleaning and watching the tellie. News of P. Ibby's aquital is on the tellie. Outside, before the news cast is over, P. Ibby, Tia and Margarito arrive. Two boys run up and give Margarito a hug. Their names are Claudio and Gabriel. I am not sure who these guys are, but their cute and they seem to have nice bodies. They're not wearing the official male stripper uniform so the jury is still out on their six packs. Ibby welcomes them.
El Talisman Years Later
Gabriel and Claudio are putting bales of hay on the back of Ibby's pick-up truck. P. Ibby asks if they are looking for him. They mention something about Don G, the P. Ibby looks off into the distance towards El Alcatraz.
El Alcatraz
Don G is angry (what a surprise). There's a plague at El Alcatraz. Whatever His Name Is is Valentin (good to know for when he meets his untimely death for what he helped do to Marianna). Don wants to hire some experts to get rid of the plague.
UC Davis
Cammie looks stunning (that's what I meant) when she gets her assignment to work on El Alcatraz. Her boss hands her a file and obnoxious music plays when she says Don G's name.
El Talisman
P. Ibby, Gabriel and Claudio are still standing front of the truck. They are discussing whether the El Alcatraz plague will come to El Talisman. I think P. Ibby told them that Don G started the gossip about him being a murderer.
UC Davis
Cammie's boss wants to know how she knows the name of the owner of El Alcatraz. I think he was simply making small talk and didn't really care about the answer. She's says it's not important. He says "great" and gets his jacket and leaves. He's got his own problems. Cammie walks over to the window. She wants to know what she's gonna do? Return to Talisman. Ummmm her assignment to go to El Alcatraz not El Talisman. She wasn't listening! Hopefully she'll check the paperwork again. It would be so awkward to show up at the wrong place on the first day of work.
El Talisman
Once again we are back at El Talisman. Claudio, Gabriel and P. Ibby are still standing in their same places, in their sames places, with the same expressions on their faces, talking about the same thing and looking in the distance towards El Talisman. P. Ibby says if he was a murderer, Don G would be dead. Since P. Ibby signs their paycheck, the boys tell P. Ibby that they don't believe that he's a murderer (they know where their bread is buttered. Momma didn't raise no fools). The boys mention ask if Marianna is dead. P. Ibby says she's not dead, but her disapperance is Don G's fault. Sooner of later Don G will fall.
UC Davis
Well, I guess they are in their thirties now. Genoveva asks Cammie if she is thinking about P. Ibby. Cammie wants to know if P. Ibby still lives on El Talisman. Can someone please tell Cammie that her assignment is to go to El Alcatraz?
El Alcatraz
Don G and AntoniOSG are discussing the plague. I didn't understand the rest. Antonio told his father that the has to die sometime; he's gonna live forever. Don G told AntoniOSG that he was leaving everything to the "person he hates most in the world".
Revenge of the Third Wheel
In a neglige, Doris awakes from a what seems like a session of pure unadulterated, hedonistic pleasure. Clothes are strewn everywhere. She runs to the door and closes it. Hmmmm. Another song comes to mind...Whose Making Love to Your Old Lady, While You Were Out Making Love. She covers her mouth with her hand. Is it because she sickened by the fact that we all think she's sleeping with her husband's father?
Don G informs AntoniOSG that Lucretia is returning to El Alcatraz to live with them today. She's been gone long enough to forget P. Ibby.
UC Davis
I am going to have to kiss P. Ibby. Does he have magic kisses? It's been years and she is still fiending over him. Genoveva is going to El Alcatraz too.
Fresno International Airport
Valentin is there to pick up Lucretia. She is wearing clothes. She didn't contaminate the Europeans afterall. She immediately askes about P. Ibby.
El Talisman
P. Ibby tells Tia that Lucretia returns today. Do both men have people spying on the other? Why would he know that? Who told him?
UC Davis
Elvira is pis...upset that Cammie is gonna work for Don G. By the end of the conversation, she believes that this might be an opportunity for them get revenge of Don G.
Credits....see ya next Monday
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P Ibby helped Marianna into the truck (those nuns taught him right). After securely shutting the door, he notices Camila noticing him and Marianna. His eyes swing to Marianna then swiftly swing back to land on Camilia. How’s he gonna explain this? I don’t know P Ibby, I can’t help you on this one. This looks pretty bad!
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Modeling another boring FDLS wife ensemble from the QVC/Olsen General Store (Little Couture House on the Prairie summer collection) the camera moves in closer for the obligatory Camila beauty shot. As a gentle breeze caught up her hair, we got a glimpse of a hand-woven leather earrings designed by the team of Pocohantas and Tiger Lily. Normally, they retail for $39.95, but for today only, ELT viewers can get them exclusively for $29.95. You don’t remember? There were only 500 left. Folks, it wasn’t like this was all shown subliminally! The QVC host with the bright read acrylic nails was standing behind Camila and pointing out the exquisite hand weaving!
Back at the Bank
Enraged, Camila chose to take the high road and walk away (if it was me, there would have been some domestic violence going down in front of the Bank of Fresno). P Ibby can’t let her walk off with her dignity. He trots over to her and grabs her arm to prevent her from leaving. He wants to know how she doing. She tells him pretty good considering everything he’s done to her. He thinks she’s angry about his wife. She attempts to walk away again, but he reaches out and pulls her back to him. He asks if she still loves him. “Hell no! After what you have done to me!” They are having two different conversations. Finally she tells him that she thinks he was working with Don Gagorio (that name cracks me up) when he won El Talisman. Boy that was some powerful impactada music!
El Alcatraz in a Barn
Doris, the third wheel, tells Lucretia that it doesn’t matter if AntoniOSG does not love her. She’s not leaving. The lights dim in the barn and she begins to sing a rousing rendition of And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going from the movie Dream Girls. She’s gonna get an Emmy for this. I’m sure. Lucretia wants to know if she’s staying for Don Gag’s money. Doris is staying so that she can see AntoniOSG suffer (I think I like Doris now). Lucretia says something about sending him running to the arms of another woman (I am going to keep all of my gutter thoughts to myself).
Back at the Bank
P Ibby denies that he works for Don G, but he doesn’t tell Camila where he got the money to bet. She doesn’t believe him.
El Alcatraz
Drunk, AntoniOSG barges into his father’s office. He tells him that he wants to divorce Doris because she’s not as hot as his sister. His sister is a decent woman and doesn’t date married men. I think that’s what he said…my CC wasn’t working at the time. Don G informs him that he will be disinherited if she divorces Doris. She’s the mother of his grandchildren (and we know how much he cares for his grandchildren! He killed one before it was done baking!) Channeling Marlon Brando, AntoniOSG stumbles out of the room.
Back at the Bank
Blah Blah Blah. You’re a bum. My father didn’t deserve this. I still don’t believe you. For the third time Cammie attempts to walk away and P. Ibby pulls her back to him.
El Talisman-Back in the Barn
Even the horse doesn’t care for the conversation. He’s just there because he was guaranteed a bucket of hay if he promised to stay calm during the scene. Doris (the third wheel): I want AntoniOSG to be miserable. Lucretia: My brother doesn’t love you. You’ll be old, broke and alone if you don’t let him go.
Back at the bank again!
Camila continues to berate P Ibby. He grabs her and says that he doesn’t want it to end this way. I will do anything for this scene to end! She demands that release her, they struggle a little and she slaps him. Instead of slapping her back (like I would have done), he yanks her against his body and lays a big kiss on her. Oh my gosh, it was just like Rhett and Scarlett all over again, but without the staircase, Miss Prissy or any sexual chemistry whatsoever! Did the producers bother to screen test these two before they were cast? This chick definitely ain’t no Vivian Lee, but even Vivian did a screen test. I’ve got a better kiss from my neighbor’s dog and he was only expecting a biscuit afterwards. Oh thank goodness, the scene is over. I’m absolutely sure that Marianna was bored sitting in that truck watching all of this.
UC Davis
They’ve arrived.
El Talisman
Tracy’s bags are packed. She’s quit her job at the ranch. The new housekeeper gives Camila’s mail to Tracy because they will see each other soon. An envelope addressed to Elvira falls on the floor. Tracy takes that envelope and the rest of the mail with her.
UC Davis
Umm. I currently attend school in the UC system so, I’m pretty sure they speak English there. Anyways Cammie’s gonna get a monthly check. She’s very happy.
The Home of P Ibby, Margarito y Marianna (two men and a crazy lady).
It looks like it’s moving day. P Ibby and Marianna are getting ready to go to New York. Pedro thanks Margarito for helping them move while they travel to New York. Suddenly, some chick that I have never seen before dropped a box full of baby clothes. Marianna drops to her knees and mourns the loss of her baby. Mi hijo!
Hospital
Marianna has lost it. The trip is off. Doctor’s orders. She’s lost her memory for good.
El Talisman
Speaking of sexual tension, in this scene, we find the incestuous duo hanging out in the bushes together. Get your brain out of the gutter. Lucretia was merely spying on the entrance of the El Talisman with binoculars. Her brother “just happened” to be walking by and spotted her in the bushes. It was totally innocent. I swear. Lucretia sees P Ibby and Marianna moving in.
Side note: there is more foliage growing on the house than on the grounds of El Talisman.
El Talisman Interior
Marianna doesn’t recognize the house. Her aunt takes her upstairs to her room. Is Dormitila Margarito’s wife, because he was bossing her around during this scene. Dormitila questions why a married man would not sleep in the same room as his wife. P Ibby says Camila’s name.
UC Davis
Elvira and Armando don’t like the tiny apartment.
El Talisman
P Ibby and Margarito are in Cammie’s bedroom. Margarito informs him of Estupido’s suicide.
UC Davis
Sorry. I don’t understand what they were talking about. Can someone help me? I think she’s got a job, but she’s on probation. Cammie has managed to find a college student friend who looks older than she does.
El Talisman Cammie’s Bedroom
P Ibby is shocked that Estupido killed himself. He tells Margarito not to touch or move anything in the room. He will be moving into it. Cammie only lived there for two days! Marianna probably decorated the room.
El Alcatraz
Doris tells Don G that P Ibby and Marianna have moved in. Marianna can’t remember anything. Doris seems to flirt with Don G. This is disturbing. I don’t know what Don G said to himself once she left the room.
El Talisman
Marianna, P Ibby and Tia are eating breakfast. Who the hell are you people? Marianna can’t identify them and goes outside for some fresh air. Don G’s men prepare to strike. 5 seconds ago, he was at the breakfast table, but P Ibby is now outside walking towards the lake with Margarito. Lucretia (wearing more clothes that usual), approaches the men. Meanwhile, DG and his sidekick kidnap Marianna by pretending to be someone she knows. They toss her kicking and screaming into the back of a black SUV. No one hears her screams.
Back at the Lake
P Ibby is explaining to Lucretia that he doesn’t want her and never will. Tia runs up to them and tells him that Marianna is missing. He runs off to find her.
UC Davis
Elvira is complaining about her living situation. Cammie points out that they had no other place to go.
A Very Dark and Scary Street Corner Somewhere in California
Don G drops Marianna off of a street corner. She begs him to take him not to leave her. She doesn’t know who or where she is. He leaves her to wander the streets.
Police Station
P Ibby and Tia go to the station to file a missing person report. What is AntoniOSG doing there? Whatever it is…it's got to be serious. Look at the shirt he’s got on! It’s tuck in and its got buttons and everything! He’s not wearing his standard uniform (tight, paper-thin, tear-away t-shirt issued to all male strippers and Hulk Hogan). The belt is where the drunk, horny ladies can deposit their dollars (Bet ya didn’t know that). The “cop” standing against the wall is really hot. He’s also a dancer, he has a gig tonight. I can tell by the shirt.
We learn that AntoniOSG is there to say that P Ibby murdered Marianna for the money. He says P Ibby took the money from Marianna.
UC Davis
Elvira is still complaining.
Police Station
AntoniOSG says that P Ibby killed Marianna to get her money. The detective seems to believe AntoniOSG.
Dark and Scary Corner
Marianna is asking people to help her, but she doesn’t know her name or where she came from. People leave her alone because they believe she’s crazy.
Some Bar
Don G and whatever that guy’s name is are discussing putting Marianna on the street. I think Don G says that he feels bad that he may never know what happened to her. I think. I’m not great at this yet. Whatever His Name Is is concerned that Marianna may regain her memory, but Don G says it irreversible (who is the narc at El Talisman?) Besides if she does, they can easily kill her.
Dark and Scary Corner
Marianna is raped by homeless two men.
Police Station
AntoniOSG demands to know where P. Ibby got the money or why he would pay for a ranch he already owns? Estupido has a family and he was trying to help him out. Tia backs up P Ibby. The detective is letting AntoniOSG lead the investigation. He’s got on that tucked in shirt, so obviously he’s qualified. Even the police are taking him seriously now. During the comercial AntoniOSG will take the oath and be sworn in. P Ibby tells them to ask Elvira. The cop says no one knows where she is.
Commercial. Even though I don’t like AnotoniOSG, I do like to watch him riding that horse all oiled up and shirtless.
UC Davis
Cammie tells her mother that she can’t go back to being Don G’s lover. Armando overhears when he walks into the room. He asks if this is true.
Bar
Don G says that they are going to accuse P Ibby of killing Marianna. When he’s in jail, they will take over El Talisman. He tells Whatever His Name is to stop drinking so much because he has to drive them home.
Police Station
More accusations. More denials. Tia pleads with the detective to…detect.
Bar
Don G says no one can know where Elvira and the “kids” are.
UC Davis
Elvira asks Armando not to hate her for sleeping with Don G. She needed someone. Cammie asks her mother to promise never to return with Dong G. I didn’t hear Elvira agree never to see Don G again.
El Alcatraz
Don G and Whatever His Name Is are in the living room. Their exhausted from a wild night of drinking and leaving a defenseless woman on a street corner. Good Golly! AntoniOSG enters the room shirtless. He is a beautiful man. I paused the DVR to get a better look (for research). He might have a 12 pack. I’ll have to count again later. His pants are undone. I would like to thank the casting director, the wardrobe people and his parents for mating. I don’t like him, but…he is a beautiful man and I don’t care about the conversation. But I think he’s telling them what happened at police station. Somebody’s searching for an attorney? I will have to rewind the tape again and again to see what he said. What? I’m trying to learn Spanish!
El Talisman
P Ibby thanks Tia for trusting in him. He can’t believe they are accusing him of murder.
Light and Scary Street Corner
Another man approaches Marianna and she becomes hysterical.
UC Davis
The geriatric college students (Cammie and her friend) are discussing their love lives. Cammie’s running out of money. There are holes all over her sweater. She can’t even afford clothes from Olsen’s General Store any more.
El Talisman
Both outside and inside, they are discussing Marianna. P Ibby gets in his truck to leave and the feminine half of the incestuous duo is hiding in the truck. At first he seems to be happy about it but he drives her home and delivers her to her father.
UC Davis
I think Elvira asked her son to help her get revenge of Don G. In another part of town, the two geriatric college students are still discussing her love for P Ibby.
El Alcatraz
Don G grabs his daughter, and in a fit of rage he almost pimp slaps her. He stops himself and instead tells her that he’s sending her butt to Europe. Lucky Europeans.
El Talisman
The police are there to arrest P Ibby. Days later, the trial begins. I’m confused because Don G told his daughter that she was going to Europe the next day. While everyone is entering the courthouse, the incestuous duo are at the airport. Doesn’t that mean that the trial began the next day?
Court Short Long Story
"Days Later", Don G and the poker monitor are walking into the court house. Don G hopes that the judge will throw the entire book and the gavel at P. Ibby. The poker guy that will still not guarantee that P. Ibby will sell El Talisman. Following closely behind them are Tia, P. Ibby and Margarito. I think P. Ibby told Margarito that he is in charge of El Talisman if he gets locked up. P. Ibby give Tia a kiss and leave to find out his fate. Margarito follows him into the courthouse and Tia asks the Virgin Mary for help with this.
Fresno International Airport
The incestuous duo arrive at the airport. AntoniOSG is pulling her luggage. He's not wearing his official button down shirt, so he must be off police duty right now. The siblings are curiously standing uncomfortably within one another's personal space. Lucretia twists her hair. I've heard body language experts say that when we women play with our hair, we're flirting. Surely this is not the case between the two of them. But, I'm a little confused because there's no one else around them. Hmmmm. Hey! What are you trying to imply? Doesn't every brother and sister stand within kissing distance when they talk to each other? Lucretia tells her brother that she doesn't want to go to Europe. (Gosh, I wish I had a father that got mad and punished me by sending me on free trip to Europe!) AntoniOSG tells her to forget that poor guy. He will only bring them problems. Lucretia declares that P. Ibby will be hers. Antonio believes that P. Ibby will be sentence to 20 or 30 years in prison. He ends the conversation by saying "Good Luck, Slut." He's been a little cranky ever since his father told him about P. Ibby bringing her home.
Not five minutes later, he's declared innocent and comes out dressed in the same clothes. Everyone was dressed in the same clothes! His trial and deliberation were all wrapped up in 5 minutes. He went through a trial for kidnapping or murder, was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, and was back out on the street in 5 minutes. I've been to court. It took ten minutes for the deputies to perform a body cavity search on me when I went through security for jury duty. Hugs, kisses and smiles for everyone. Obviously Don G was not pleased. He told P. Ibby that he was gonna pay for what he's done.
El Talisman or some other mansion
I thought Tracy quit. I'm confused. Didn't she have a suitcase? Didn't she walk out the door? She's in the kitchen cleaning and watching the tellie. News of P. Ibby's aquital is on the tellie. Outside, before the news cast is over, P. Ibby, Tia and Margarito arrive. Two boys run up and give Margarito a hug. Their names are Claudio and Gabriel. I am not sure who these guys are, but their cute and they seem to have nice bodies. They're not wearing the official male stripper uniform so the jury is still out on their six packs. Ibby welcomes them.
El Talisman Years Later
Gabriel and Claudio are putting bales of hay on the back of Ibby's pick-up truck. P. Ibby asks if they are looking for him. They mention something about Don G, the P. Ibby looks off into the distance towards El Alcatraz.
El Alcatraz
Don G is angry (what a surprise). There's a plague at El Alcatraz. Whatever His Name Is is Valentin (good to know for when he meets his untimely death for what he helped do to Marianna). Don wants to hire some experts to get rid of the plague.
UC Davis
Cammie looks stunning (that's what I meant) when she gets her assignment to work on El Alcatraz. Her boss hands her a file and obnoxious music plays when she says Don G's name.
El Talisman
P. Ibby, Gabriel and Claudio are still standing front of the truck. They are discussing whether the El Alcatraz plague will come to El Talisman. I think P. Ibby told them that Don G started the gossip about him being a murderer.
UC Davis
Cammie's boss wants to know how she knows the name of the owner of El Alcatraz. I think he was simply making small talk and didn't really care about the answer. She's says it's not important. He says "great" and gets his jacket and leaves. He's got his own problems. Cammie walks over to the window. She wants to know what she's gonna do? Return to Talisman. Ummmm her assignment to go to El Alcatraz not El Talisman. She wasn't listening! Hopefully she'll check the paperwork again. It would be so awkward to show up at the wrong place on the first day of work.
El Talisman
Once again we are back at El Talisman. Claudio, Gabriel and P. Ibby are still standing in their same places, in their sames places, with the same expressions on their faces, talking about the same thing and looking in the distance towards El Talisman. P. Ibby says if he was a murderer, Don G would be dead. Since P. Ibby signs their paycheck, the boys tell P. Ibby that they don't believe that he's a murderer (they know where their bread is buttered. Momma didn't raise no fools). The boys mention ask if Marianna is dead. P. Ibby says she's not dead, but her disapperance is Don G's fault. Sooner of later Don G will fall.
UC Davis
Well, I guess they are in their thirties now. Genoveva asks Cammie if she is thinking about P. Ibby. Cammie wants to know if P. Ibby still lives on El Talisman. Can someone please tell Cammie that her assignment is to go to El Alcatraz?
El Alcatraz
Don G and AntoniOSG are discussing the plague. I didn't understand the rest. Antonio told his father that the has to die sometime; he's gonna live forever. Don G told AntoniOSG that he was leaving everything to the "person he hates most in the world".
Revenge of the Third Wheel
In a neglige, Doris awakes from a what seems like a session of pure unadulterated, hedonistic pleasure. Clothes are strewn everywhere. She runs to the door and closes it. Hmmmm. Another song comes to mind...Whose Making Love to Your Old Lady, While You Were Out Making Love. She covers her mouth with her hand. Is it because she sickened by the fact that we all think she's sleeping with her husband's father?
Don G informs AntoniOSG that Lucretia is returning to El Alcatraz to live with them today. She's been gone long enough to forget P. Ibby.
UC Davis
I am going to have to kiss P. Ibby. Does he have magic kisses? It's been years and she is still fiending over him. Genoveva is going to El Alcatraz too.
Fresno International Airport
Valentin is there to pick up Lucretia. She is wearing clothes. She didn't contaminate the Europeans afterall. She immediately askes about P. Ibby.
El Talisman
P. Ibby tells Tia that Lucretia returns today. Do both men have people spying on the other? Why would he know that? Who told him?
UC Davis
Elvira is pis...upset that Cammie is gonna work for Don G. By the end of the conversation, she believes that this might be an opportunity for them get revenge of Don G.
Credits....see ya next Monday
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Cynderella, just go to your Zen Happy Place before you watch it, because it was all over the place tonight in terms of a) who are these people? Several new characters introduced, and b) what? Pedro's arrest, arraignment and trial in the space of two minutes, and an instantly executed plot against Mariana.
Time to get the snark on!
Time to get the snark on!
We will so MST3K this series. I couldn't believe a work of this episode.
Gregorio dumps the helpless Mariana in the worst section of LA and Antonio trumps up a murder charge against Pedro for this... incredible. The LAPD has had competence issues in the past (as in OJ) but this one was beyond the pale.
And how about Camila talking to the college administration personnel? That conversation should have been in English.
Lucrezia es completemente loca. Pedro needs a restraining order.
And how much time has passed between Mariana's kidnapping and the end of the "trial", which also would have been in English?
Aaron Diaz also needs to make up his mind about whether or not to shave his chest. Personally I hope he decides to keep doing it.
Gregorio dumps the helpless Mariana in the worst section of LA and Antonio trumps up a murder charge against Pedro for this... incredible. The LAPD has had competence issues in the past (as in OJ) but this one was beyond the pale.
And how about Camila talking to the college administration personnel? That conversation should have been in English.
Lucrezia es completemente loca. Pedro needs a restraining order.
And how much time has passed between Mariana's kidnapping and the end of the "trial", which also would have been in English?
Aaron Diaz also needs to make up his mind about whether or not to shave his chest. Personally I hope he decides to keep doing it.
Oh for Pete's sake. These writers sound worse than sadistic chimpanzees. Apologies to all chimpanzees for comparing them to the writers. Forty-five minutes until it starts for us here on the west coast.
Cynderella, thanks for posting the header so we can vent.
Cynderella, thanks for posting the header so we can vent.
Oh it's sooooooooooo bad -- you're in for a treat! I'm gonna have to start wearing Depends to watch this show. hahahahahahahaha!!!
...and we're up to nine timeskips...in six episodes. Plus more Novelalandia law fail--I could let Pedro getting off on Mariana's "murder" slide, but not in the "dias despues" timeskip that they used to do it. And not apparently when a trial was involved.
On the bright side: Daisy Do-Me cemented her status as comedy gold (inappropriate chemistry with Antonio aside) when she pulled that Pepe le Pew gag in Pedro's truck. And Antonio continues to rock that "I'll cut you, man!" look (plus that unbelievably hilarious scene where Aaron Diaz apparently tripped over a chair while ranting at Don Bombastico). And Elvira...I'm not sure where the hell they're going with Elvira, but Julieta Rosen's "Don't look at me! I'm scheming, dammit!" face is awesome.
On the bright side: Daisy Do-Me cemented her status as comedy gold (inappropriate chemistry with Antonio aside) when she pulled that Pepe le Pew gag in Pedro's truck. And Antonio continues to rock that "I'll cut you, man!" look (plus that unbelievably hilarious scene where Aaron Diaz apparently tripped over a chair while ranting at Don Bombastico). And Elvira...I'm not sure where the hell they're going with Elvira, but Julieta Rosen's "Don't look at me! I'm scheming, dammit!" face is awesome.
It's like a train wreck. I can't watch but I can't look away. It can't get worse. And then a plane crashes into the train wreck.
Once these people remember they are in the US I hope they go buy a gun. God bless America for allowing to defend against greasers and crazy hussies and sadistic neighbors.
Did they even think to look for Mariana? Hopefully she escaped to Telemundo.
Kelly
Once these people remember they are in the US I hope they go buy a gun. God bless America for allowing to defend against greasers and crazy hussies and sadistic neighbors.
Did they even think to look for Mariana? Hopefully she escaped to Telemundo.
Kelly
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:16:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:16:00 AM EST
Good grief. I have whiplash.
I don't know why some of you aren't enjoying this show, though. I think it's hilarious.
Poor Camila having apparently spent years with her mother sitting at home ready to whine at her the minute she walks in after a long day, every day. If I were her I would have gotten a studio apartment and let whiny entitled ma and bro fend for themselves.
I don't know why some of you aren't enjoying this show, though. I think it's hilarious.
Poor Camila having apparently spent years with her mother sitting at home ready to whine at her the minute she walks in after a long day, every day. If I were her I would have gotten a studio apartment and let whiny entitled ma and bro fend for themselves.
Kelly, train wreck with a plane crash, I love it! Funny comment about Mariana wandering over to Telemundo. I feel just awful for laughing every time she screams.
I like the new characters. They don't yell as much. I'm also very grateful they didn't make the trial last weeks and weeks. Tia prays and voila! Pedro's innocent. I'd keep Tia around if I were him.
Julia, isn't Elvira the whiniest harpy ever? Sheesh. No wonder Camila worked while carrying a full load at college.
Bill C., ITA that Julieta Rosen can get an extremely cranky look on her face. I continue to be amazed that she can yell through clenched teeth. What a skill. We're up to nine time skips already? Cool.
I see by the advances that Lucrecia must have been vacationing in Amsterdam. De Wallen (red light district) to be precise.
I like the new characters. They don't yell as much. I'm also very grateful they didn't make the trial last weeks and weeks. Tia prays and voila! Pedro's innocent. I'd keep Tia around if I were him.
Julia, isn't Elvira the whiniest harpy ever? Sheesh. No wonder Camila worked while carrying a full load at college.
Bill C., ITA that Julieta Rosen can get an extremely cranky look on her face. I continue to be amazed that she can yell through clenched teeth. What a skill. We're up to nine time skips already? Cool.
I see by the advances that Lucrecia must have been vacationing in Amsterdam. De Wallen (red light district) to be precise.
I like Camila's sensible new friend. "That apartment is nice enough! If your mom and brother don't like it, why don't they work and rent something better?!" Why, indeed. That place is way nicer than any place I lived while I was in school.
So did Pedro never pay the money to Elvira? Must not have if she's still putting up with living in that "horrible" apartment. But if Pedro still has the money, why hasn't he used it for a massive media campaign to locate Mariana? I know, I know, wear beanie and la la la.
So did Pedro never pay the money to Elvira? Must not have if she's still putting up with living in that "horrible" apartment. But if Pedro still has the money, why hasn't he used it for a massive media campaign to locate Mariana? I know, I know, wear beanie and la la la.
Commenting before reading any comments. I have to say that after watching 30 minutes, I turned it off. Such unrelenting cruelty. There's no break from the drama. Very little happy scene breathers since this TN started. Tonights ep was all over the place. Do they even have an editor?
Over at Podia, we got besos. :)
Robey
Over at Podia, we got besos. :)
Robey
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:15:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:15:00 AM EST
Just remembered, we got a beso here, but just wasn't in the same league.
Robey
Robey
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:19:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:19:00 AM EST
Poor poor Cynderella, what an episode to cover.
OH MY GOD! Did this episode even have ONE happy scene? Mariana gets kidnapped, dumped, then raped by not one, but two homeless men??? WHAT? hasn't the poor girl suffered enough, geeze!
Really ridiculous that Antonio the slimeball goes to the police to pin it on Pedro. First the Police could see the slime dripping from him a mile away and second he is the son of the creep accused of beating Mariana months ago..red flag..red flag..
They know she wandered away, Pedro has an alibi and there is no body,blood or evidence of foul play! So a trial...really? On slimeballs word? Really?
Hey Univision, in the US we put out posters, neighbors, strangers and dogs help the police search, the media and Internet cover the story. And because she lost her memory they would be searching hospitals and homeless shelters! Not to mention her family has been in the same community for years, I'm sure a reward would be offered!
If you want to film here you should actually do some homework to make it somewhat believable! ay ay ay if Roberta was watching she would be saying stupido the entire hour!
Pedro's to do list: (which should have been done before he moved in)
1. put up security cameras
2. install electric fence bordering Alcatraz
3. get a guard dog
4. buy some guns and learn how to use them
5. file a restraining order on every member of the Negrete family
OH MY GOD! Did this episode even have ONE happy scene? Mariana gets kidnapped, dumped, then raped by not one, but two homeless men??? WHAT? hasn't the poor girl suffered enough, geeze!
Really ridiculous that Antonio the slimeball goes to the police to pin it on Pedro. First the Police could see the slime dripping from him a mile away and second he is the son of the creep accused of beating Mariana months ago..red flag..red flag..
They know she wandered away, Pedro has an alibi and there is no body,blood or evidence of foul play! So a trial...really? On slimeballs word? Really?
Hey Univision, in the US we put out posters, neighbors, strangers and dogs help the police search, the media and Internet cover the story. And because she lost her memory they would be searching hospitals and homeless shelters! Not to mention her family has been in the same community for years, I'm sure a reward would be offered!
If you want to film here you should actually do some homework to make it somewhat believable! ay ay ay if Roberta was watching she would be saying stupido the entire hour!
Pedro's to do list: (which should have been done before he moved in)
1. put up security cameras
2. install electric fence bordering Alcatraz
3. get a guard dog
4. buy some guns and learn how to use them
5. file a restraining order on every member of the Negrete family
I don't know whether to be glad or sad I missed the episode. Train wreck indeed. And the shift to 9:00 now just isn't working for me (recording not happening). So our friendly denizens of Fresno (yeah, right--on what planet?) are going to be losing one viewer, but I can't resist reading these recaps and comments. So keep 'em coming. The Caray gang beats the show any day!
I read all the comments. I want to add, "yep!"
The writers have no concept of normal emotions. Mariana's people would be more crazed about finding her-but they all seem pretty calm. The writer's are like wreckless drivers that don't seem to realize they've already crashed the thing.
The Camila at school thing is really funny. Camila is like Elvira's mother, not the other way around.
The writers have no concept of normal emotions. Mariana's people would be more crazed about finding her-but they all seem pretty calm. The writer's are like wreckless drivers that don't seem to realize they've already crashed the thing.
The Camila at school thing is really funny. Camila is like Elvira's mother, not the other way around.
I don't watch Venevision productions because the ones I encountered back in the 90s when I began watching novelas in the first place were so sexist. They had gratuitous adultery, violence against women, and actors who mumbled. Their diction has improved but most of the rest of it hasn't gotten any better.
This series is no Eva Luna.
When TdA was airing in prime the latest Venevision version of the story was on in daytime and I tuned in for two hours once. It was insane because there were so few actors over 40. The Victoria character was played by an actress who was only 30 years old, the father of her missing daughter by an actor who was only 34. The only actor who was age-appropriate was Luis Jose Santander, who played the lady's husband. But he is a major Venevision star.
This series is no Eva Luna.
When TdA was airing in prime the latest Venevision version of the story was on in daytime and I tuned in for two hours once. It was insane because there were so few actors over 40. The Victoria character was played by an actress who was only 30 years old, the father of her missing daughter by an actor who was only 34. The only actor who was age-appropriate was Luis Jose Santander, who played the lady's husband. But he is a major Venevision star.
Ai ai ai. De mal en peor.
A few details that may clarify a bit of the mess:
They dumped Mariana in LA, which is I think why no one can find her. Also she has not idea who she is or where she lives. That nice couple she approached veered away because they thought she was a drogadicta.
Pedro was on the phone at one point hiring a private investigator to look for her. Obviously not a very good one.
The check from Pedro to Elvira was lost -- Tracy scooped it up with some dropped junk mail and who knows what happened. Although if it hasn't been cashed, Pedro should still have the money -- unless, God help us, it was a cashier's check.
Plane crash into a train wreck for sure. And it looks like I get lingerie night!
A few details that may clarify a bit of the mess:
They dumped Mariana in LA, which is I think why no one can find her. Also she has not idea who she is or where she lives. That nice couple she approached veered away because they thought she was a drogadicta.
Pedro was on the phone at one point hiring a private investigator to look for her. Obviously not a very good one.
The check from Pedro to Elvira was lost -- Tracy scooped it up with some dropped junk mail and who knows what happened. Although if it hasn't been cashed, Pedro should still have the money -- unless, God help us, it was a cashier's check.
Plane crash into a train wreck for sure. And it looks like I get lingerie night!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 8:28:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 8:28:00 AM EST
MST3K or Mystery Science Theatre 3000 is a series that ran on Comedy Central about 20 years ago. A guy and a bunch of talking robots who are exiled in space are forced to watch really bad movies (mostly from the 50s and early 60s) and they snark on them. Here is an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EAXYH4b4yM
A lot of the movies are bad sci-fi, some are exploitation movies or women-in-prison movies; you get the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EAXYH4b4yM
A lot of the movies are bad sci-fi, some are exploitation movies or women-in-prison movies; you get the idea.
Ah, I see! Our intellectual roots.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 9:05:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 9:05:00 AM EST
My best friend didn't have cable in those days. I taped this series for her for several years and she had a blast with this stuff.
I am so mad! I don't like contrived plots and hate 'gang rape' as story lines!!! Now really. A wealthy-above the law character that previously beat a pregnant woman to kill her baby and cause brain damage would simply strangle her to death and get rid of the body. So this telenovela uses a tired old worse than death gang rape to ??? entertain??? Maybe the director is entertaining his own fantasies.
And how stupid to present another out of the blue enemy show up at the police station to accuse the husband who just happens to be there reporting his wife's disappearance of murder. To an oh so gullible policeman.
Basta and cue the kayac.
And how stupid to present another out of the blue enemy show up at the police station to accuse the husband who just happens to be there reporting his wife's disappearance of murder. To an oh so gullible policeman.
Basta and cue the kayac.
What a mess.
Things I don't understand:
1) why are the mother and brother still living with Camilla after the time warp?
2) didn't Pedro hire someone to keep an eye on Mariana 24/7 - while true that the person he hired is a spy, I never saw Pedro ask why she wasn't with her, or did I miss that.
3) Why would the mother first want to go back and be the mistress to "he who must not be named" and then in her next statement say she wants to hurt him?
Now for the reason I will continue to watch this show
the gratituous violence against Mariana is truly unnecessary the only thing that will keep me watching this is that Mariana pays back "he would must not be named", only she should be allowed to administer his demise.
Univision, stop this, stop this violence there is no need, and it's a turn off. Eva Luna this is not.
Things I don't understand:
1) why are the mother and brother still living with Camilla after the time warp?
2) didn't Pedro hire someone to keep an eye on Mariana 24/7 - while true that the person he hired is a spy, I never saw Pedro ask why she wasn't with her, or did I miss that.
3) Why would the mother first want to go back and be the mistress to "he who must not be named" and then in her next statement say she wants to hurt him?
Now for the reason I will continue to watch this show
the gratituous violence against Mariana is truly unnecessary the only thing that will keep me watching this is that Mariana pays back "he would must not be named", only she should be allowed to administer his demise.
Univision, stop this, stop this violence there is no need, and it's a turn off. Eva Luna this is not.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 9:37:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 9:37:00 AM EST
Couple of things:
- Would the sight of baby clothes be enough to cause Mariana to relapse so completely? Don't know. Asking.
- MST3K: excellent, UA! Exactly right.
- Is Domatilla a proper name or job title?
- Anyone else think Camila's new bud looks a bit like Bianca Jagger?
- "Apologies to all chimpanzees for comparing them to the writers. " - Sylvia, that's perfect!
- NM, Depends for the show AND the commentary! Fun!
- Anne/Anita, no, "Honey Boo Boo Child" is really pretty tragic. The female biological progenitor is in no way qualified to be a mom.
- Bill, I agree about Lucrezia. I have to give Gregorio credit for his "no, no otra vez" look when Pedro took her out of the truck at El Al, as opposed to a "oh-my-child-would-never-do-that" look.
- Kelly, you'll be pleased to know that the Virginia General Assembly has repealed a law that limited handgun purchases to one per month. Everybody north and south of Virginia along the I-95 corridor, just remember it's people who kill people. Jeez. Vahjinya has a real reputation with East Coast law enforcement agencies.
- Bill, even in CME, Julieta Rosen showed the same half dozen facial expressions. She does them well, but it's kind of a limited range. Still having difficulty with the Regina -> Elvira transition.
That said, El Tal is sure giving us raw material for our snark sharpening.
- Would the sight of baby clothes be enough to cause Mariana to relapse so completely? Don't know. Asking.
- MST3K: excellent, UA! Exactly right.
- Is Domatilla a proper name or job title?
- Anyone else think Camila's new bud looks a bit like Bianca Jagger?
- "Apologies to all chimpanzees for comparing them to the writers. " - Sylvia, that's perfect!
- NM, Depends for the show AND the commentary! Fun!
- Anne/Anita, no, "Honey Boo Boo Child" is really pretty tragic. The female biological progenitor is in no way qualified to be a mom.
- Bill, I agree about Lucrezia. I have to give Gregorio credit for his "no, no otra vez" look when Pedro took her out of the truck at El Al, as opposed to a "oh-my-child-would-never-do-that" look.
- Kelly, you'll be pleased to know that the Virginia General Assembly has repealed a law that limited handgun purchases to one per month. Everybody north and south of Virginia along the I-95 corridor, just remember it's people who kill people. Jeez. Vahjinya has a real reputation with East Coast law enforcement agencies.
- Bill, even in CME, Julieta Rosen showed the same half dozen facial expressions. She does them well, but it's kind of a limited range. Still having difficulty with the Regina -> Elvira transition.
That said, El Tal is sure giving us raw material for our snark sharpening.
I agree, the episode was ludicrous. After Mariana is just about completely normal, seeing baby clothes caused her to instantly lose her memory, and the doctors say it will only get worse and worse now. Right. So of course the family lets her wander around. When she disappears, they don't report it. It's now "years later", and nothing has changed, I even think they're all wearing the same outfits!
Lucrezia gets her father mad, so he sends her to "Europe". They say goodbye at the airport overlooking the plane she's going to go on, as is that's how airports work nowadays. "Years later" she's back at that same spot, having returned from Europe, still having the hots for Pedro. Nothing's changed. What was the point!!?
I agree, Tracy gathered the mail which had the million dollar check to Elvira. So then nobody opened the mail? I thought Tracy was going to go with Camila. Guess not. And of course Pedro would still have the money in the account.
Now that Camila has spent years in college, she's an expert on crop plagues, and is being sent from Davis to Fresno to check out the plague on Gregorio's farm?!!!
Sorry, too stupid for me. I may read the recaps, but the show has lost me.
Lucrezia gets her father mad, so he sends her to "Europe". They say goodbye at the airport overlooking the plane she's going to go on, as is that's how airports work nowadays. "Years later" she's back at that same spot, having returned from Europe, still having the hots for Pedro. Nothing's changed. What was the point!!?
I agree, Tracy gathered the mail which had the million dollar check to Elvira. So then nobody opened the mail? I thought Tracy was going to go with Camila. Guess not. And of course Pedro would still have the money in the account.
Now that Camila has spent years in college, she's an expert on crop plagues, and is being sent from Davis to Fresno to check out the plague on Gregorio's farm?!!!
Sorry, too stupid for me. I may read the recaps, but the show has lost me.
Gee, I'm not sure where to begin today. I'm waiting around for Cynderella's recap to bring some coherence to what I saw last night.
Thanks for the link to Honey Boo Boo yesterday. I have a few negative vibes about toddler beauty pageants.
I have very much the same feelings for Mariana that I had for poor Liliana in MEPS. At least Lily had a roof over her head all those years.
In fact, so far this show makes me long for the good old days of MEPS and FELS.
Carlos
Thanks for the link to Honey Boo Boo yesterday. I have a few negative vibes about toddler beauty pageants.
I have very much the same feelings for Mariana that I had for poor Liliana in MEPS. At least Lily had a roof over her head all those years.
In fact, so far this show makes me long for the good old days of MEPS and FELS.
Carlos
i have to save reading this until lunch but how many 'royal brush-offs' does lucrecia need to GET IT? (thanks Julie56 for the term, perfect!)
Thanks Cynderella, this is hilarious.
"I currently attend school in the UC system and I’m pretty sure they speak English there."
"Good Golly!... His pants are undone. I would like to thank the casting director, the wardrobe people and his parents for mating."
I'm convulsing with laughter.
Thanks!
Carlos
"I currently attend school in the UC system and I’m pretty sure they speak English there."
"Good Golly!... His pants are undone. I would like to thank the casting director, the wardrobe people and his parents for mating."
I'm convulsing with laughter.
Thanks!
Carlos
Cynderella, nicely done amiga! "And now a word from our sponsor." LOL!! Anita will be proud that you are hawking her wares on the El Tal*Mart QVC.
"I’ve got a better kiss from my neighbor’s dog and he was only expecting a biscuit afterwards." That whole paragraph was brilliant but I think the doggie kiss was the best sentence.
Nickname Alert: Ha ha! You had a typo that called Gagorio "Dong G". It's perfect! He is a dong.
"I will have to rewind the tape again and again to see what he said." Amen sistah! Learning Spanish. We do what it takes.
Cynderella, your recap is perfect just the way it is. Thank you.
I just love the way they tie up loose ends in the one. We see The Letter that holds The Check, we know that somehow Tracy is gonna screw up getting it to Elvira, but we don't see whatever happened to The Letter. Is it just stuck in Tracy's "To Do" box for years and years? I mean, that's how it works in my house but surely not for normal people. (Oh wait, El Talisman = Nor Normal.) Alternative theory: Elvira got the check, cashed it, and is holding onto the money. I don't buy the alternative theory though.
I think Camila and her pal are going back to Fresno as crop/plaga consultants.
"I’ve got a better kiss from my neighbor’s dog and he was only expecting a biscuit afterwards." That whole paragraph was brilliant but I think the doggie kiss was the best sentence.
Nickname Alert: Ha ha! You had a typo that called Gagorio "Dong G". It's perfect! He is a dong.
"I will have to rewind the tape again and again to see what he said." Amen sistah! Learning Spanish. We do what it takes.
Cynderella, your recap is perfect just the way it is. Thank you.
I just love the way they tie up loose ends in the one. We see The Letter that holds The Check, we know that somehow Tracy is gonna screw up getting it to Elvira, but we don't see whatever happened to The Letter. Is it just stuck in Tracy's "To Do" box for years and years? I mean, that's how it works in my house but surely not for normal people. (Oh wait, El Talisman = Nor Normal.) Alternative theory: Elvira got the check, cashed it, and is holding onto the money. I don't buy the alternative theory though.
I think Camila and her pal are going back to Fresno as crop/plaga consultants.
Cynderella, what a riot! I think it was just perfect. My favorite part was, "Cammie has managed to find a college student friend who looks older than she does..."
I couldn't decipher that bit with Doris at the end. She woke up on the bed with the hallway door open and said to herself, "I'll have to be more careful, or I'll be discovered." Something like that. Then she went and shut the door. What is that, foreshadowing? Don't you actually have to care about the character for that to work?
I couldn't decipher that bit with Doris at the end. She woke up on the bed with the hallway door open and said to herself, "I'll have to be more careful, or I'll be discovered." Something like that. Then she went and shut the door. What is that, foreshadowing? Don't you actually have to care about the character for that to work?
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:05:00 PM EST
Blue Lass, I was wondering about that Doris scene too. There was a bunch of clothing strewn around and it looked like she'd had a night of wild sex or something. If so was it sex with Antonio or someone else? I wondered, but then I forgot to care. I'm sure we'll find out "years later".
Oh, and I think Dong G told Antonio he intended to leave all his inheritance to Doris, not Antonio or Lucrecia, heh heh. That was pretty funny and momentarily knocked the bluster out of Antonio.
Oh yeah, that was good. Antonio was muy impactado. Of course this was after he explicitly said to his Dad, "Well, you have to die eventually." What a bunch of charmers.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:12:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:12:00 PM EST
Bien hecho, Cynderella! You are too funny!
I especially love your sensitive treatment of the Doris-Antonio-Lucrezia triangle:
"Doris is staying so that she can see AntoniOSG suffer (I think I like Doris now)."
and:
"He tells him that he wants to divorce Doris because she’s not as hot as his sister."
So now Camila is some kind of agrono-genio who is the only one who can save the Troll from ruin (... or she can send him to ruin by deliberately leading him astray -- bwahahaha!)
A plaga on both their houses -- well maybe just on one house -- El Alcatraz!
I especially love your sensitive treatment of the Doris-Antonio-Lucrezia triangle:
"Doris is staying so that she can see AntoniOSG suffer (I think I like Doris now)."
and:
"He tells him that he wants to divorce Doris because she’s not as hot as his sister."
So now Camila is some kind of agrono-genio who is the only one who can save the Troll from ruin (... or she can send him to ruin by deliberately leading him astray -- bwahahaha!)
A plaga on both their houses -- well maybe just on one house -- El Alcatraz!
Tks Cynderella
This was a gag worthy episode.
I feel sorry for the actors should they have the misfortune of watching este pedazo de mierda.
they are doing every disgusting thing for shock value.
What more can happen to Mariana?
Mejia is beginning to look like Spielberg next to this group of ineptos, and FELS like academy award material.
we know now why it's not showing in Mex & my guess is, it never will.
Pedro is charged with murdering Mariana, because Antonio said so, no proof, no body, no nothing.
This was a gag worthy episode.
I feel sorry for the actors should they have the misfortune of watching este pedazo de mierda.
they are doing every disgusting thing for shock value.
What more can happen to Mariana?
Mejia is beginning to look like Spielberg next to this group of ineptos, and FELS like academy award material.
we know now why it's not showing in Mex & my guess is, it never will.
Pedro is charged with murdering Mariana, because Antonio said so, no proof, no body, no nothing.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:41:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:41:00 PM EST
i watch this show to see fine/guapo Aaron Diaz, and practicar espanol. He always looks like he smells something bad! LOL!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:43:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:43:00 PM EST
She’s the mother of his grandchildren (and we know how much he cares for his grandchildren!)
Pigorio caring about ANYONE but himself... i found that totally out of place... what could these two granddaughters have that keep him protecting them and Doris? Was Doris the original owner (by inheritance?) of El Alcatraz? is there another heavy-duty reason for him to want to keep the OSG-Doris marriage going? is Doris' secret have anything to do with Pig-orio and a bed? Hmmm!!
Even the horse doesn’t care for the conversation. He’s just there because they promised him a bucket of hay if he promised to stay calm in the shot.ROFLOL!! good one!
I will do anything for this scene to end! ditto!! lol!!
NO/ZERO/ZILCH sexual chemistry whatsoever! I HEAR YOU SISTER!!
I’m absolutely sure that Marianna bored sitting in that truck watching all of this.
I was actually worried she would get out of the truck and wonder around, then Pedro would kill himself with guilt over having paid more attention to the leather earrings than to his own wife.
Tracy takes that envelope and the rest of the mail with her.
they sure made sure we got to see an envelope from Pedro to Elvira... do they think we are dumb?
yes that is a monthly stipend check. With full ride scholarships you usually get a monthly amount for your expenses. (I did at grad school)
(two men and a crazy lady) LOL! good1!!
UC Davis
Sorry. I don’t understand what they were talking about. Can someone help me? I think she’s got a job, but she’s on probation. Cammie has managed to find a college student friend who looks older than she does.
basically Elvira is whinning about the low level apartment. Camila is saying I am working and going to school at same time! that is what i can afford!! and yes, the job is on a 'probation' period, if the boss likes how she does then she would get a permanent position.
Doris seems to flirt with Don G. This is disturbing. exactly. I think Pigorio said something to the effect that he was going to get rid of Mariana first then frame Pedro as the principal suspect.
more comments coming up
Pigorio caring about ANYONE but himself... i found that totally out of place... what could these two granddaughters have that keep him protecting them and Doris? Was Doris the original owner (by inheritance?) of El Alcatraz? is there another heavy-duty reason for him to want to keep the OSG-Doris marriage going? is Doris' secret have anything to do with Pig-orio and a bed? Hmmm!!
Even the horse doesn’t care for the conversation. He’s just there because they promised him a bucket of hay if he promised to stay calm in the shot.ROFLOL!! good one!
I will do anything for this scene to end! ditto!! lol!!
NO/ZERO/ZILCH sexual chemistry whatsoever! I HEAR YOU SISTER!!
I’m absolutely sure that Marianna bored sitting in that truck watching all of this.
I was actually worried she would get out of the truck and wonder around, then Pedro would kill himself with guilt over having paid more attention to the leather earrings than to his own wife.
Tracy takes that envelope and the rest of the mail with her.
they sure made sure we got to see an envelope from Pedro to Elvira... do they think we are dumb?
yes that is a monthly stipend check. With full ride scholarships you usually get a monthly amount for your expenses. (I did at grad school)
(two men and a crazy lady) LOL! good1!!
UC Davis
Sorry. I don’t understand what they were talking about. Can someone help me? I think she’s got a job, but she’s on probation. Cammie has managed to find a college student friend who looks older than she does.
basically Elvira is whinning about the low level apartment. Camila is saying I am working and going to school at same time! that is what i can afford!! and yes, the job is on a 'probation' period, if the boss likes how she does then she would get a permanent position.
Doris seems to flirt with Don G. This is disturbing. exactly. I think Pigorio said something to the effect that he was going to get rid of Mariana first then frame Pedro as the principal suspect.
more comments coming up
AntoniOSG says that P Ibby killed Marianna to get her money. The detective seems to believe AntoniOSG.
well, it does not look good for Pedrito... first he wins ElT from Pigorio, for which he bet all of Mariana's money, now he can't say why he did that... no it does not look good for him.
I too found that criminal case start-to finish in 5 minutes a beanie hat fest!!
and now Cammie is sent by boss to HELP Pigorio to save his ranch because of the fields haveing caught some plague...
the boys who arrived as 'mojados' sure grew a few inches in 5 minutes!!
and yes, Doris looks sicker and sicker by the minute...
oh btw, Cynderella! marvelous funny recap of a novela i am quickly getting bored by...
LOVED your QVC pitch in the beginning of the recap!!
WHY OH WHY did Rafa Novoa and Marcela Mar accept to participate in this circus??
well, it does not look good for Pedrito... first he wins ElT from Pigorio, for which he bet all of Mariana's money, now he can't say why he did that... no it does not look good for him.
I too found that criminal case start-to finish in 5 minutes a beanie hat fest!!
and now Cammie is sent by boss to HELP Pigorio to save his ranch because of the fields haveing caught some plague...
the boys who arrived as 'mojados' sure grew a few inches in 5 minutes!!
and yes, Doris looks sicker and sicker by the minute...
oh btw, Cynderella! marvelous funny recap of a novela i am quickly getting bored by...
LOVED your QVC pitch in the beginning of the recap!!
WHY OH WHY did Rafa Novoa and Marcela Mar accept to participate in this circus??
Pigorio wants Mariana to suffer for long, that is why he did not just kill her... he figures if she has no memory she will never make it back to ElT... but then why did he tell her to ask someone how to get to ElT?
Could these 'granddaughters' be actualy DAUGHTERS?
Could these 'granddaughters' be actualy DAUGHTERS?
This entire cast & crew should drink the Cool Aid, to put them & us out of our misery & bring Podía back to 9PM. I would prefer to watch test pattern than this.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:03:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:03:00 PM EST
and pigorio concerned with 'el que diran' if lucretia wants to have some kind of relationship with Pedrito... so he ships her BACK to Europe (seems they have done this to her before, she does NOT want to go back to Europe).
Has anyone been able to take this novela seriously since the end of episode 1?? NOT ME!!
Has anyone been able to take this novela seriously since the end of episode 1?? NOT ME!!
Really? I'm finding the show very amusing and pretty good entertainment in the schlock variety. I do find myself eagerly awaiting Aaron Diaz's scenes, yes he certainly does always look like he smells something bad, hee.
Marta, your question about taking it seriously...uh no, not me either. You always asked how Rafael Novoa could do this? I've seen a couple of interviews/videos with cast members and I do believe he acts a bit embarrassed about it all. Blanca Soto is gushing and very excited (so maybe it improves?) and Aaron Diaz just seems to be having fun. He does say that Antonio "has reasons for behaving the way he does", so I'm guessing some more character development for him down the road.
Marta, your question about taking it seriously...uh no, not me either. You always asked how Rafael Novoa could do this? I've seen a couple of interviews/videos with cast members and I do believe he acts a bit embarrassed about it all. Blanca Soto is gushing and very excited (so maybe it improves?) and Aaron Diaz just seems to be having fun. He does say that Antonio "has reasons for behaving the way he does", so I'm guessing some more character development for him down the road.
Mike- Pedro should've moved the whole clan to Virginia, although even in liberal CA, we're allowed to buy a gun after a perfectly reasonable waiting period. And I'm pretty sure we could get bodyguards and caretakers to keep an eye on people without any waiting period whatsoever.
I thought that Doris was going to get caught with Gagorio. Now that Antonio has his sister back, he doesn't need his wife.
At least they got the obligitory gratuitous rape scene out of the way early. I was sure the rapist this time would be Lucrazy.
Maybe Camila learned about this thing called the World Wide Web and will show them how to do a proper missing persons search and campaign. Or maybe Mariana is better off on the streets of LA.
Kelly
I thought that Doris was going to get caught with Gagorio. Now that Antonio has his sister back, he doesn't need his wife.
At least they got the obligitory gratuitous rape scene out of the way early. I was sure the rapist this time would be Lucrazy.
Maybe Camila learned about this thing called the World Wide Web and will show them how to do a proper missing persons search and campaign. Or maybe Mariana is better off on the streets of LA.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:14:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:14:00 PM EST
Pedro should still have the money -- unless, God help us, it was a cashier's check.
well, Bluelass... they (Ped and mariana) had to go to the bank to get it, so probably it was... so the money might be in LIMBO LAND... sigh!
well, Bluelass... they (Ped and mariana) had to go to the bank to get it, so probably it was... so the money might be in LIMBO LAND... sigh!
MST3K or Mystery Science Theatre 3000
urban, thanks for the explanation, sounds like they would watch all the seasons of the orig flash gordon and have a field day.
urban, thanks for the explanation, sounds like they would watch all the seasons of the orig flash gordon and have a field day.
Martaivett, I think I need a giant beanie I can just crawl into.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:19:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:19:00 PM EST
Second the comment that this recap is perfect. El Talisman is a s&*% storm of depraved characters and oddball casting. Don ("The Human Stain")G's son is a cross between Antonio Banderas coolness and a Cowboy line dancer in a Texas hoochie bar. Noticed on screen graphic that several weeks had passed but it seems in that time that Camila was able to obtain a 4 year degree on the plague while Don G and his savant peep spent just minutes drinking to establish a Novela alibi. Podia Amar is sooo much better but I guess I'm hooked on both...well maybe Blanca Soto.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:27:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:27:00 PM EST
You can place a stop pmt on a cashiers ck, you will need to sign an affidavit & there are some time restrictions which I don't remember.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:31:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:31:00 PM EST
Cynderella, this was excellent. I was laughing so often I'm glad I was reading in my office with the door closed.
Though last night was horrible, the recaps and comments continue to be great!
No Marta you can't take this TN seriously b/c it would make you upset (particularly with the horrible things that happen to Mariana). When you make the entire show fodder for us to tear to shreds, it's a fun ride.
Though last night was horrible, the recaps and comments continue to be great!
No Marta you can't take this TN seriously b/c it would make you upset (particularly with the horrible things that happen to Mariana). When you make the entire show fodder for us to tear to shreds, it's a fun ride.
I know what you mean, Sylvia -- Lucrazy scared the crap outta me, too.
Anon, there was an "años después" in there as well -- that's how the mojados got to grow up so fast. We don't know how MANY años, because we're not sure if Camila is getting an undergrad or a grad degree. (I'm assuming grad, but that's based on several logical, rational conclusions that clearly have no place in this telenovela.)
Anon, there was an "años después" in there as well -- that's how the mojados got to grow up so fast. We don't know how MANY años, because we're not sure if Camila is getting an undergrad or a grad degree. (I'm assuming grad, but that's based on several logical, rational conclusions that clearly have no place in this telenovela.)
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:37:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:37:00 PM EST
I am so glad for the time jumps, cuz it gives me hope this tn would get better.... OR NOT*%!!#WTF!!
I'll just stare at Novoa for now.
I'll just stare at Novoa for now.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:38:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 1:38:00 PM EST
Pedro is definitely keeping that truck running good given the amount of years and time warps we have had. then again the clothes are also lasting years without fading...
Thanks, Cynderella for your recap. That was a lot of work and I can't believe how fast you got it posted after this late evening showing.
It's is hard to believe how many activities and how little drama the writers and directors packed into a one hour episode. I managed to yawn through kidnapping, more dark hints at incest (just whose child will Doris bear, Gregorio's or Antonio's?) a murder trial and resolution, the beginning of grad school, a move, the abandonment of one of the key characters (a mentally ill woman) in a rough part of town in LA, the introduction of a new character—a girlfriend for Camila and Camila getting her first big-girl job. Of course, that job is the result of a "plague" on the crops at, where else, "El Alcatraz", the ranch, not the island in San Francisco Bay.
How do you make so many dramatic possibilities BORING?
Sylvia, sadistic chimpanzees indeed.
EJ
It's is hard to believe how many activities and how little drama the writers and directors packed into a one hour episode. I managed to yawn through kidnapping, more dark hints at incest (just whose child will Doris bear, Gregorio's or Antonio's?) a murder trial and resolution, the beginning of grad school, a move, the abandonment of one of the key characters (a mentally ill woman) in a rough part of town in LA, the introduction of a new character—a girlfriend for Camila and Camila getting her first big-girl job. Of course, that job is the result of a "plague" on the crops at, where else, "El Alcatraz", the ranch, not the island in San Francisco Bay.
How do you make so many dramatic possibilities BORING?
Sylvia, sadistic chimpanzees indeed.
EJ
So Pedro gets put on a quickie express trial over Antonio's completely baseless allegations, yet Mariana is beaten so badly that she has brain damage and her baby dies, she is able to identify her attacker, and yet Gagorio is never even bothered about this little matter by the police? Qué. The. Hell.
I think for me, this show has gone all the way around to "so bad it's good." Plus, who am I kidding, I watch to ogle Aaron Diaz.
I think for me, this show has gone all the way around to "so bad it's good." Plus, who am I kidding, I watch to ogle Aaron Diaz.
All:
I am pretty sure we are supposed to get that Doris is favored by the Troll. We have seen how he favors women. He has threatened to leave her all his money and in California you can leave your money to whom ever (or whatever entity, like a trust, etc.) you choose.
I forgot to remark on Bill C.'s note on the scene where Aaron Diaz trips over the chair, the contents of the boda bag (which seem to be white wine or spirits) spill all over the front of his shirt, the Troll's face never changes expression and the cameras just keep on rolling. Honestly, that was hilarious.
A follow on to a note from Sylvia yesterday about Talisman wines. They are a Sonoma County boutique producer of some darn fine Pinot Noir wines that they make in very limited quantities. They are known for their commitment to bringing out the "terroir" of the grape berries grown on a specific plot of land. As far as I remember each bottling is vineyard-specific in order to attempt to capture that unique combination of soil composition, pH, sun, wind rain and micro-climate that make "terroir" and lend a unique sense and taste of place to the wine.
Having said that, there are some winemakers who don't even believe in "terroir". Talisman wines are priced in the $40.-60. range.
The wines are MUCH better than the telenovela.
EJ
I am pretty sure we are supposed to get that Doris is favored by the Troll. We have seen how he favors women. He has threatened to leave her all his money and in California you can leave your money to whom ever (or whatever entity, like a trust, etc.) you choose.
I forgot to remark on Bill C.'s note on the scene where Aaron Diaz trips over the chair, the contents of the boda bag (which seem to be white wine or spirits) spill all over the front of his shirt, the Troll's face never changes expression and the cameras just keep on rolling. Honestly, that was hilarious.
A follow on to a note from Sylvia yesterday about Talisman wines. They are a Sonoma County boutique producer of some darn fine Pinot Noir wines that they make in very limited quantities. They are known for their commitment to bringing out the "terroir" of the grape berries grown on a specific plot of land. As far as I remember each bottling is vineyard-specific in order to attempt to capture that unique combination of soil composition, pH, sun, wind rain and micro-climate that make "terroir" and lend a unique sense and taste of place to the wine.
Having said that, there are some winemakers who don't even believe in "terroir". Talisman wines are priced in the $40.-60. range.
The wines are MUCH better than the telenovela.
EJ
Once again, Caray Caray commenters get an A+. The writers of this crap fest get a big fat F.
I also liked that the penniless Nájera family showed up at UC Davis in a Mini Cooper.
Regarding the check that lives somewhere in the ozone. If you have your bank do a cashier's check, the money leaves your account immediately. I don't see how Pedro would know that the money was not received by the Nájera family, unless Pedro and Camila actually ever talked about this. They might do that in the last week of the show, but probably not before.
I also liked that the penniless Nájera family showed up at UC Davis in a Mini Cooper.
Regarding the check that lives somewhere in the ozone. If you have your bank do a cashier's check, the money leaves your account immediately. I don't see how Pedro would know that the money was not received by the Nájera family, unless Pedro and Camila actually ever talked about this. They might do that in the last week of the show, but probably not before.
I don't get the "AntonOSG" reference?! What does it mean?
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:34:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:34:00 PM EST
AntoniO(old)S(spice)G(guy). OSG was one of our first nicknames for Antonio. Who named him? Was it you Marta?
It was Cynderella on the very first night!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:48:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:48:00 PM EST
Cynderella, great recap and many very funny lines, but next time, you must tell us what you really think about AD.
I don't think Televisa read the memo from the government about less violence on TV!
Re: The check - I thought the money came out of Mariana account so if it was never cashed and she is MIA, who would know?
Rosemary #1
I don't think Televisa read the memo from the government about less violence on TV!
Re: The check - I thought the money came out of Mariana account so if it was never cashed and she is MIA, who would know?
Rosemary #1
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:51:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 2:51:00 PM EST
This show isn't Televisa and isn't Mexican, so they didn't get the less-violence memo. More's the pity. Did we really need Mariana to get attacked and presumably raped on top of everything else?
So she's spent years wandering bad neighborhoods, remembering almost nothing, no idea who she is or where she belongs, and no one in a police department or soup kitchen or anything has figured out that she isn't a junky but is just lost. I'd like to believe that wouldn't really happen, but I fear it is all too realistic for mentally ill people who aren't with their families for whatever reason.
So she's spent years wandering bad neighborhoods, remembering almost nothing, no idea who she is or where she belongs, and no one in a police department or soup kitchen or anything has figured out that she isn't a junky but is just lost. I'd like to believe that wouldn't really happen, but I fear it is all too realistic for mentally ill people who aren't with their families for whatever reason.
That's right! Cynderella's first recap. I like AntoniOSG. Good nickname.
Julia, I fear you are right about the homeless in our country. I have to admit that the couple's reaction to Mariana felt very realistic to me. I would probably have reacted the same way.
Julia, I fear you are right about the homeless in our country. I have to admit that the couple's reaction to Mariana felt very realistic to me. I would probably have reacted the same way.
I'm sure she didn't improve her luck at all by happening to have dressed in sloppy hippy duds the day she was kidnapped. She totally looked the part of a homeless addict, even before she'd been out there for long. Note to self, start dressing better so if I lose my mind suddenly people won't overlook my distress.
How to distract a Cynderella (y otras, y mas otras): Aaron Diaz's 12-pack. :D
The one and perhaps literally only good thing about Mariana getting the Perils of Penelope treatment is that it probably guarantees her survival throughout the show. But I won't lie--like Nellie said, she should be the one person who gets to take Don Bombastico down (and preferably out) when the time comes. It probably won't turn out that way, but it should. Seriously, wouldn't we forgive this show all its future transgressions if we knew somewhere in the final episode we would get to see a vengeful Mariana take him out with his own Chevy Suburban, or set fire to El Alcatraz with him in it, or just pump an entire magazine of 9mm bullets into him...?
(Does Tal*Mart carry a Don Bombastico dartboard or something?)
The one and perhaps literally only good thing about Mariana getting the Perils of Penelope treatment is that it probably guarantees her survival throughout the show. But I won't lie--like Nellie said, she should be the one person who gets to take Don Bombastico down (and preferably out) when the time comes. It probably won't turn out that way, but it should. Seriously, wouldn't we forgive this show all its future transgressions if we knew somewhere in the final episode we would get to see a vengeful Mariana take him out with his own Chevy Suburban, or set fire to El Alcatraz with him in it, or just pump an entire magazine of 9mm bullets into him...?
(Does Tal*Mart carry a Don Bombastico dartboard or something?)
Do we know what happened to Greg's wife? When Lucresia was annoying him he told her that as she gets older she is reminding him more and more of her mother... and I don't think he meant that in an affectionate way.
In the bar we got a glimpse on the feeding habits of the Alcatraz pack but I couldn't tell if it was nachos or just tortilla chips that they were snacking on.
Wouldn't you think that they would at least show us how Mariana has survived on the streets of LA these past few years?
I don't really mind that this is so ridiculous but I wish that the writers would at least take advantage of the improbable situations they create.
Carlos
In the bar we got a glimpse on the feeding habits of the Alcatraz pack but I couldn't tell if it was nachos or just tortilla chips that they were snacking on.
Wouldn't you think that they would at least show us how Mariana has survived on the streets of LA these past few years?
I don't really mind that this is so ridiculous but I wish that the writers would at least take advantage of the improbable situations they create.
Carlos
Nicely done, Cynderella! Thank you. Favorite lines: Camila has managed to find a college friend who looks older than her.
And your reference to Olsen 's General Store was hilarious! At last the mystery of the belt buckle is solved... It is for drunk, horny ladies to deposit their dollars in. Too funny!
Ick Marta, now I am also wondering if those are Pig's children and not his grandchildren which would explain the inheritance move.
So anos despues Camila's feathers are gone and we are all sitting here with $50 rooster butt ones hot glued into our hair?
Rosemary la Otra
And your reference to Olsen 's General Store was hilarious! At last the mystery of the belt buckle is solved... It is for drunk, horny ladies to deposit their dollars in. Too funny!
Ick Marta, now I am also wondering if those are Pig's children and not his grandchildren which would explain the inheritance move.
So anos despues Camila's feathers are gone and we are all sitting here with $50 rooster butt ones hot glued into our hair?
Rosemary la Otra
At least they have set up a lot of questions they may eventually answer. What secret is Doris hiding? Do her children actually exist, and does she have them locked up in the attic? What happened to the money and the envelope? How has Mariana survived? What happened to Gagorio's wife? Why doesn't Gag let Abs-toned-io work on the ranch? Has Evilra done ANYTHING except whine in the passing years?
So many questions.
So many questions.
And that's not including the most important question of all: who the hell names a ranch/estate El Alcatraz?
Abs-toned-io...Ha ha haheehaw!!! You're killing me.
I'm telling you guys. If Doris's girls have unibrows we're gonna know who daddy is.
Bill, good question, especially in California.
I'm telling you guys. If Doris's girls have unibrows we're gonna know who daddy is.
Bill, good question, especially in California.
Bill, that has always been my #1 question. Guess there's no escaping, or something...
Thanks, Cynderella for your wonderfully snarky recap. Soooo much better than the show itself.
R la O, "So anos despues Camila's feathers are gone and we are all sitting here with $50 rooster butt ones hot glued into our hair?" - hilarious! How does one get hot glue out of one's hair?
Thanks, Cynderella for your wonderfully snarky recap. Soooo much better than the show itself.
R la O, "So anos despues Camila's feathers are gone and we are all sitting here with $50 rooster butt ones hot glued into our hair?" - hilarious! How does one get hot glue out of one's hair?
"El Alcatraz" means "The Pelican." You know, for those huge flocks of water birds that congregate in the healing waters of Fresno.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:56:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 3:56:00 PM EST
Julia, thanks for reminding me that this is Venevision (Venezuela) production. It explains a lot.
Rosemary #1
Rosemary #1
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:01:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:01:00 PM EST
Don't hold me to this, but on the day we first see Doris. She was in the hallway chastising one of her daughters. The girl was in her teens and had too little pigtails. So one of the "kids" appears in the second episode. We are never shown her face.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:02:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:02:00 PM EST
Cynderella, I finally had time to read your recap, a gem! Hysterical. Perhaps my favorite was the horse who only stuck around because he was promised a bucket of hay.
Too fun.
I wonder if Mariana will get found tonight. Perhaps Pedro could get a little more concerned and pass out flyers. Even Scott Peterson did that when his wife was missing. I can't believe she's been missing long enough for there to be a trial.
Too fun.
I wonder if Mariana will get found tonight. Perhaps Pedro could get a little more concerned and pass out flyers. Even Scott Peterson did that when his wife was missing. I can't believe she's been missing long enough for there to be a trial.
Blue Lass
ROTFL on your pelicans comment.
Can't wait for your recap tomorrow.
Emilia, there is no escape for the lowly recappers. We are just going to have to have fun and learn Spanish without a real TN.
With a grin,
EJ
ROTFL on your pelicans comment.
Can't wait for your recap tomorrow.
Emilia, there is no escape for the lowly recappers. We are just going to have to have fun and learn Spanish without a real TN.
With a grin,
EJ
Blue Lass, you beat me to the punch... I looked it up. My theory had been that maybe earlier in his life Greg had been a guest at Alcatraz and had fond memories so named it thus.
Carlos
Carlos
Rosemary Primera, now that you mention that this show is of Venezuelan origin, are we seeing the hand of Hugo Chavez shaping the view of the US?
so if lucretia's mom was as 'slutty' as Lucretia per Pigorio's remark, then i bet she ended up somewhere in burner hutt no.5.
btw as far as an ending for Pigorio, could he end up trapping himself in one of his fire-starter stunts?
btw as far as an ending for Pigorio, could he end up trapping himself in one of his fire-starter stunts?
Mike, my thoughts exactly. It makes me feel better knowing the origins of most of this lunacy.
Rosemary Primera
Rosemary Primera
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:36:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 4:36:00 PM EST
Marta, I wonder if Venezuelan telenovelas like purification by fire as much as Mexican telenovelas do?
Speaking of which, I thought Venezuela was supposedly known for it's good quality telenovelas? Maybe I am mistaken.
Speaking of which, I thought Venezuela was supposedly known for it's good quality telenovelas? Maybe I am mistaken.
i have not much experience at all with asian telenovelas, can speak for colombian a little (the RCN ones are usually quality productions) and the one peruvian i saw was great (Luz Maria) but Venevision, i have not seen anything directly from them since the 70s/80s so i could not tell.
wasn't Eva Luna also a venevision/Univision partnership? so they can do good enough to watch like Eva Luna... but this one they should not ever have started.
wasn't Eva Luna also a venevision/Univision partnership? so they can do good enough to watch like Eva Luna... but this one they should not ever have started.
Some things drive me nuts, TG for computers. I could not find the meaning of alcatraz, Blue Lass said pelican, which led to more searches. It actually means gannet, which I had never heard, another search.
mira aquí
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannet
Don't know why they would name a prison in Calif after them.
pelicans are a different order
mira aquí
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelican
Telenovelas are SO educational.
And more incredible that you could learn even one thing from this mierda. But only due to our smart Carayites.
mira aquí
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannet
Don't know why they would name a prison in Calif after them.
pelicans are a different order
mira aquí
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelican
Telenovelas are SO educational.
And more incredible that you could learn even one thing from this mierda. But only due to our smart Carayites.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 5:07:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 5:07:00 PM EST
I saw a Venevision telenovela a few years ago that I liked. It was set and filmed in Panama. Chef Hawt was the lead dude. Not too much violence. Unfortunately, it was on Univision (in the afternoon), and as usual someone at Looney started getting twitchy and a few months in edited it down into nonsense to get it over with fast.
One of my favorite novelas is the Venezuelan "Mi Gorda Bella". (It was the model for "Llena de Amor"). It was made by Radio Caracas Television, though, not Venevision. Not sure if RCTV even exists anymore. It's been a rough time for journalists and broadcasters in Venezuela in recent years. :(
OH MY GOD! Cynderella, I bow down to you. That was one of the funniest recaps I ever read.
I have not had the chance to read the comments yet. I'll do that later tonight once I'm home. I turned off the tv as soon as I saw Gagorio and his henchman approach Mariana to kidnap her. I just couldn't take the estupidez. I am SO glad I missed the rape. I am so done with this show. But I am not done with these deliciously wicked recaps and comments. :)
Can't wait to read the comments later!
I have not had the chance to read the comments yet. I'll do that later tonight once I'm home. I turned off the tv as soon as I saw Gagorio and his henchman approach Mariana to kidnap her. I just couldn't take the estupidez. I am SO glad I missed the rape. I am so done with this show. But I am not done with these deliciously wicked recaps and comments. :)
Can't wait to read the comments later!
Rosemary Primera! I LURV the new nickname! Mike came up with mine too, when I thought Rosemary #2 sounded too bathroom-talk ish. I vote you keep the new moniker.
Regarding the meaning of Alcatraz, as far as Alcatraz prison is concerned, it's generally accepted around here that it is named for the pelicans that are abundant in the area. I think the original name "Isla de los Alcatraces", was intended to translate to "Island of the Pelicans". However words can mean different things in different areas and maybe Alcatraz originally meant gannet and the early Spanish explorers got it wrong. I do think it's notable that they are both sea birds. When I was in Guanajuato a few years ago there was a new bar called El Alcatraz which had a picture of a goofy-looking pelican out in front. See what happens when people don't bring their Audubon bird book with them?
Just got back to Caray, the recap and have done half the comments--all so very much my own reaction--revulsion and incredulity.
Cynderella--Thank you. This was hilarious from start to finish even though Mariana's treatment and the reasons are tragic.
BTW, are you starting a rival company to compete with Tal*Mart?
Now--to my first and only RANT (you folks took care of all the rest).
Pibby (I like that) was the one who broke up with Cammie and left her sobbing in her melting yoghurt saying they can't ever see each other again, without explaining then or ever why.
NOW, on seeing her for the first time in 6 time leaps, he roughs her up and wants to know if she still loves him....I guess the Orphanage didn't teach him everything about life on the outside.
What ARE these two doing in this telenovela--I agree, no chemistry, but that was not a loving kiss we got to see. The one on LNPQA (a guilty pleasure I'm indulging in but not on a regular basis) was a surprise, but the tension and chemistry had been building for some time.
The only thing I can think of is that these twats of a writing team are still drying the ink on the next scene as the cameras start to roll, so no one really knows how to prepare. It could be Blanca S. didn't know she was going to get kissed, so her reaction was perfectly normal.
The more I see Doris, the more I think she and Don Gag have something more going on in common than two grandchildren. But now we know poor Antonio is a full-blown alcoholic. Maybe that's why papa doesn't want to leave him the money--or Antonio became an alcoholic because papa doesn't love him or trust him.
Well, there are a few things I'll hang in there to find out.
1. THE Letter with the check in it
2. Whether la plaga is going to spread to El Talisman by itself or will Blanca have something to do with it.
3. Will Elvira and Armando ever get real jobs.
4. If Blanca has to go back to Fresno for a temporary job, are they going to go with her.
5. Where in the world is Mariana and did she get pregnant by one of the homeless men (which actually gives all homeless men a bad rep--ones I've interacted with are quite polite and harmless--they would have helped her).
6. Is Camila going to fall for AntoniOSG (love that one, too)
7. Will Pibby tell Camila everything before the penultimate episode so they can have the requisite boda on the last one (and please don't invite the LA Lakers to the wedding).
Anita
Cynderella--Thank you. This was hilarious from start to finish even though Mariana's treatment and the reasons are tragic.
BTW, are you starting a rival company to compete with Tal*Mart?
Now--to my first and only RANT (you folks took care of all the rest).
Pibby (I like that) was the one who broke up with Cammie and left her sobbing in her melting yoghurt saying they can't ever see each other again, without explaining then or ever why.
NOW, on seeing her for the first time in 6 time leaps, he roughs her up and wants to know if she still loves him....I guess the Orphanage didn't teach him everything about life on the outside.
What ARE these two doing in this telenovela--I agree, no chemistry, but that was not a loving kiss we got to see. The one on LNPQA (a guilty pleasure I'm indulging in but not on a regular basis) was a surprise, but the tension and chemistry had been building for some time.
The only thing I can think of is that these twats of a writing team are still drying the ink on the next scene as the cameras start to roll, so no one really knows how to prepare. It could be Blanca S. didn't know she was going to get kissed, so her reaction was perfectly normal.
The more I see Doris, the more I think she and Don Gag have something more going on in common than two grandchildren. But now we know poor Antonio is a full-blown alcoholic. Maybe that's why papa doesn't want to leave him the money--or Antonio became an alcoholic because papa doesn't love him or trust him.
Well, there are a few things I'll hang in there to find out.
1. THE Letter with the check in it
2. Whether la plaga is going to spread to El Talisman by itself or will Blanca have something to do with it.
3. Will Elvira and Armando ever get real jobs.
4. If Blanca has to go back to Fresno for a temporary job, are they going to go with her.
5. Where in the world is Mariana and did she get pregnant by one of the homeless men (which actually gives all homeless men a bad rep--ones I've interacted with are quite polite and harmless--they would have helped her).
6. Is Camila going to fall for AntoniOSG (love that one, too)
7. Will Pibby tell Camila everything before the penultimate episode so they can have the requisite boda on the last one (and please don't invite the LA Lakers to the wedding).
Anita
Mike--Domatilla is her name, but it sounds like a vegetable. At least it's a new name I haven't heard before. I can't get used to how they recycle names endlessly from other novelas (or at least ones I've watched). I'm so confused on LQNPA because Ulises is now Bruno and someone else is Ulises.
Anita
Anita
Bill--I'll check the supplier for Don Bombastico dartboards. They do carry a line of non-standard boards, so we may be in luck.
Anon at 4:02--I think Doris was yelling at a servant girl. They usually wear pigtails....but don't hold me to it either. Some details I just gloss over.
Anita
Anita
Anita, per your last nights' request: it will take a week or so, but the chargers, gold and silver, are in the works. Clear a shelf for them. I'm sure one of your clerks would be so pleased (??) to personalize them - momograms, etc...
Rosemary La Otra, thanks but most all thanks to Mike. Too funny about the bathroom, I never thought of that.
Rosemary Primera
Rosemary Primera
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 6:56:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 6:56:00 PM EST
I spanishdict.com & it gave both gannet & pelican for alcatraz
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 8:55:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 8:55:00 PM EST
DaisyNJ, "cue the kayak" is from our wordsmith Capt. SilviShark. It was her closing tag for her recaps of one of our last telenovelas' take-out footage.
Order's up for #7, snarkpardners! I'm off to work!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 10:57:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 10:57:00 AM EST
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