Thursday, February 16, 2012
Re: El Talisman ep 13 wed 15 Feb: an episode chuck full of dreamers, scheemers, teasers, secrets, threats and a world record of short unemployment time.
First off, oh boy now we have the obligatory bastardo of Pigorio. Cool! I LOVE this trite plot line. Anything to make Papa Pig squirm. Marta I'm glad you said you like the guy because he was doing way too much sweating and rubbing his hair for my taste. But thanks to you I know he is a good guy.
Second, que the hell with Camila telling Pigorio that she'll end up at El Tal because Pedro is in love with her? As you say, very convenient.
OK, more tomorrow because I'm pooped and it's way past my bedtime...
"...the maid tells her that they just have to have Pedro request the divorce for Mariana to show up… (Say what?)"
Yeah, and didn't she even invoke Murphy's law? I mean, yeah...I might go buy a replacement for a book I lost and then find the original book two days later...but to extend that logic to a missing person?! QTH?
I love "Armani"
I lot of conversations in this show get tiring, but the Pigmila (love!) one was even more so. We saw part of it Tuesday, and then we saw the "I'll get El Tal" part of it with every promo and then last night the whole enchilada. Ok, we got it. Pig is pissed and so is Cam.
I am withholding judgement about Pancho. My only thought when he showed up was "sheesh! *Another* new character?!"
Wait, hold it now. Don Bombastico has a heart condition?
(plays that one damn ominous violin sting they lifted from The Mechanic)
I'm with you about Tracy and Pancho. He's an old friend that I remember fondly from Dinero... our abogadito, Jaime. How the heck did he end up in this?
This show continues to crack me up. Pedro tells Mr. Smith that yes, he thinks Cami is pretty and yes, he's interested in her... but, "I'm married."
"Well, Heck, OK then... she can move in with you.
Say what? How nice that Smith looks out for his employees so well.
I love, love, love that song.
I switched the channel and saw the preview of Camilla coming to the ranch, and now I read that he wanted all set up with roses etc, but there is noone, noone at all in that big ranch to greet her so this nutjob can? Just doesn't make sense, how can this nutjob know when Camilla is there yet the housemates don't know? Crystal ball?
And am I right Camilla's brother does not work and there is no questioning of that? There are no computers anywhere that Camilla can't look up and find out about the owner of this grand estate and find out he was charged with murder? Your love has told you he's married, and he can explain and you can't take a few minutes to check on him on the www?
But I heard Blanca is having a difficult time with her marital seperation I hope all turns out well for her.
Armani, LOL! Perfect for this young waste product. I know we discussed this load in detail yesterday, but I'm thinking he should be registering soon for Fresno State or at least the local community college. Some possible majors for him: Creative Writing in the hopes he can improve this script, Athletic Training to get him up off his bum, Child Development in the hopes he will get his own room, Psychology and Conflict Resolution for obvious reasons.
Weird Word Verification, two words: "heriess" and "clerk". Well, I don't hold out much hope that Armani's gonna be an "heriess" but a clerk, maybe.
"Pigmila", I love it! Makes things so much easier. Don’t dare me!! I don’t fear you!! Yep, that pretty much sums up their endless conversations.
It's too bad Pedro's not putting as much effort into finding Mariana as he apparently will into divorcing her. I'm with the maid, divorce proceedings will call out the anvils.
I'm cool with the new character Panchito. If he's really the bastardo can he make a claim on El Alcatrash if Pigorio goes to the great pig pen in the sky? What if it's found out that Antonio is NOT a true piglet but somebody else's bastardo? I only say that because recently he keeps prancing around demanding that everyone call him Mister Antonio Negrete, you will respect my authority!!
"Camila tells Tracy she has to leave Fresno, still love Pedro but just found out he is married". This after Camila yells at Gagorio that she will NOT leave Fresno? Are the writers talking to each other?
Pedro not wanting to find out what happened to the $2 million (I'm guessing) check because it will make it look like he thinks Mariana is dead...Pi truly is the dumbest galan that ever was invented.
Best scene of the night: Pi's lame Mariachi Dream. That's the best fantasy he can come up with? No wonder the schmuck is still a virgin (educated guess on my part).
Thanks for a fine recap. I am with Sylvia, I loved your detailed recap today but especially your delightful rants from today and yesterday. You GO, girl!
For me Pedro's dream was a comedy masterpiece. Rafael Novoa looked like he had just gotten high to do the scene and he had a 'like-totally-whoa-man' grin on his face the whole time.
Marta, I want to know more about the mariachi outfits. I do not know the history of mariachi or the outfit's attribution to a particular singer. Whatever their history, they look very expensive and labor intensive to produce.A labor of love, I bet.
Novoa looked extremely uncomfortable in his, and he just did not know what to do with the sombrero.
Tell us more if you feel like it. Sure hope you are feeling better now. Sending you best wishes for your return to health.
My students did well on their first exam, and I think they're almost ready for a telenovela excerpt...(my "mariachi dream" is combining my vocation with my avocation = showing TNs in class!)
I confess I am showing a TN in my Spanish II classes. The kids love it.
Wishing you better health and wishing all you recappers, better writing in the script...your own writing is already stellar. Would that the Univsion/Televisa? drones could do as well.
Let me join the chorus in thanking you for this terrific recap and hoping that this morning you're feeling better. Lucky for us, we get to enjoy the slight edge in your writing that seems to come out when you are feeling out of sorts!
EJ, "Pedro Guerrero" is a fictional character, el padre of the title character in Marta and my favorite novela of all time, "La Hija del Mariachi". The traje de mariachi worn by the Pi man is quite similar to the one in the novela. But in that novela, the mariachis actually appear to sing (I use "appear" deliberately: all the singing is dubbed but so artfully one has to be let in on the secret to know about it) and they move, they breathe, they charm and delight. The poor Pi man, alas, is like something out of Madame Tussaud -- a silent, grinning waxed edition of the real thing.
Wanna place bets on how many times we'll get to see that nutso dream sequence before it's all done?
Little stubby Panchito does indeed look like pig's fruit.
Surrounded by avocados, perhaps Armando will grow a pair and defy El Viral.
It's funny how Antonio keeps calling Camila "chula" while El Viral is the one trying to pimp out her daughter.
I'm anxious to see El Viral's make-over. The last time she got all dolled up (the dinner at Pig's ranch where we never got to see them eat), she seemed to be out-madaming Mme Brigitte.
EJ, I'll buy that poor Pedro had to get stoned before his Mariachi scene. Sounds reasonable. Since Novoa is Columbian I guess he wouldn't be into that whole Mariachi Gigantic Sombrero thing. I use to work near a small shop where a woman ordered and customized Mariachi outfits. They were quite expensive and some could get incredibly detailed. They were true works of art.
El-Viral, Bwahahahaha!!! Good one Novela Maven.
I handed out the lyrics and showed it to my students, and they enjoyed it a lot.
Can't wait for the girls to hop in their new cars and follow Mommy to see what she's up to.
Nellie - Good point about red roses for C but no one to greet her. Where is that Crystal Ball? OT: there is a new commentator on the news named Crystal Ball. ITA that C had to have googled P while at college. Maybe she got through college without ever using a computer. Even tho you only saw avances and still saw the flaw that is El Tal, please keep your comments coming!
So it looks like Luc hires someone to play Mariana. How exhausting must this be to catch a guy? Let it go, Luc! She is pretty (pretty slutty) and rich and should have no trouble attracting another suitor.
What was that beautiful Luz song?
Is anyone else getting 2 word verifications asking to prove you are not a robot?
Rosemary la Otra
Blue Lass- it's high school so I use subtitles. For us it's mainly an activity in hearing somewhat "authentic" Spanish. We are watching Rosalinda. The kids are starting to pick out words.
Sylvia, I thought that girl looked Slavic! I didn't realize she was a well known actriz. Presumably she had an easy time learning Spanish, as Romanian is also a romance language.
The idea of Luc hiring a fake Mariana (to keep Pedro and Camila apart...but wouldn't that also keep him away from her, unless the fake Mariana is intended to show up just long enough to go "I must go, my home planet needs me--oh, andbythewayPedroisanabusiveSOB and you shouldn't get too close!" in front of Camila?) might be crazy enough to work, assuming it is in fact Karyme Lozano and she does in fact go completely gonzo with it.
Last night I thought I must be really exhausted because the show was making way less sense than usual, if that's even possible. Nice to read the recap and discover I wasn't the problem. It was just nonsense.
The whole "file for divorce! That will make your missing wife with no memory reappear!" thing was a headscratcher. Possibly true, but mostly because the writers are only trying to force a setup.
The most nonsensey thing to me was Camila's boss's conversation with Pedro:
Pedro: I need an agronomist, and the agronomist must live at my ranch, not in town, and it must be Camila.
Bossman: Well, this is sounding like it isn't strictly business. In fact, you're sounding pretty creepy.
Pedro: No, no! I really like Camila! She's a total babe!
Bossman: But what are your intentions? How can I ensure my employee's safety?
Pedro: It's totally okay! I'm married!
Bossman: Well, all right then.
That said--Marta, I raise my Big Mug of Freshly Brewed Café to you, amiga.
Too many new characters to absorb.
Too many old characters to keep track of.
Every time I see PI--I have to switch gears from Private Investigator to Pobre Ingenuo to P Ibby to Pedro Ibarra, then I can get on with the story.
RLO--Me thinks the reason Lucrezia is so into PI (see above), is that in all of Fresno there are no other ineligible men, unless she wants to dip down into the servidumbre. I guess she has to settle for some real congress with the bro or some fantasy congress with PI (see above).
I haven't had a chance to see the Mariachi dream sequence yet, but it sounds like a hoot. I'm saving the second half for tonight when there's no ElT on (am I sorry? hmmmm, that's a hard one to answer).
Pedro's dream was hilarious and Camila's dress was one deep breath away from a wardrobe malfunction. Do people really wear their dresses that low?
As ridiculous as this show is, it has me hooked. I now must keep watching to find out what all the secrets are.
Marta, like the others have said, I couldn't tell that you were not well. Great recap. Love your short paragraphs!
And, Julia, I'm so glad you said you had trouble following the yak last night. Emilia and I could scarcely pick out a word. And what little we were able to follow made no sense, for example, Pedro's conversation w/ Senor Smeeth.
Bill C. - good point about technology in these shows. I was constantly amazed in CME about the great cell coverage they seemed to have everywhere, and also the availability of broadband internet at Baja California haciendas.
This TN is so dumb. How dumb is it, Mike? This show is so dumb they could use forced viewing of El Tal as part of "enhanced Interview techniques" at Guantanamo...
Loved the recap, Marta. I also hope you feel better.
Oh boy, new characters! All novelas tend to feed them to us in small bits, as I recall. Hope we don't need Matilda headbands to keep 'em straight! Not that it matters all that much in this one.
What are the chances of Tal*Mart scoring some of whatever Pedro was smoking? Might make it easier for us to watch this dreck. Or at least not care.
NM, totally agree that Pedro here looked like a waxy imitation of our dear mariachis from LHDM. I agree with EJ that Pedro looked 'high' in that scene.
Wanna place bets on how many times we'll get to see that nutso dream sequence before it's all done?
i would say 10 at least! lol~!
Now... could the secret Miss Bridgete have on Pigorio is the origin of Panchito?? could he be the son of one of those women, even Miss Brigeete herself?
And you commenters are on FIRE! Thankfully no beverages were being consumed during my read.
NM - El Viral, wow!
I will try to go back to my rant style next time. enjoy the night off from ElTal.. we will need it to wear down our WTH shaking our heads.
Marta, I agree we will likely see the lame fantasy at least 10 more times. I'm going to go out on an avocado limb and guess closer to 20 times since poor Pi has severe repetitive tendencies. One thing, Pedro looked a heck of a lot better in his uncomfortable mariachi duds than in his usual garb. See, my prayer for better clothing was answered!
Sara - thanks for that song title. It is beautiful.
I am having a hard time accepting the 2 word verifications. Hopefully, it is just a one day robot check.
I'm no longer getting any word verification requests. Thank goodness because I couldn't read those stupid two-word jobbers.
Syl - I meant gross to the flirty sibs, not the mariachi duds.
Did you guys watch the premios last night? Some of our characters were presenting. Blanca Soto looked fantastic. Her hair was cut above shoulder-length and she looked like some glamorous 40's star. Rafael Novoa had on a blah suit but he looked hot in glasses. I think Pedro should copy that look. Maybe he wouldn't look so confused all the time.
Aaron Diaz was sizzling hot, that guy looks great in a good suit. He presented with Lola Ponce who was also in a very cool dress. You know what? She was acting kind of LooKrazia slutty too! So glad she didn't disappoint, hee.
But if they were pre-recorded ... well, less impressive but more understandable.
The Pi Man in glasses. I like it. Very Clark Kent.
Anyway, here is an interview with Aaron Diaz that was done Wednesday, because they mention that Aaron and Lola are going to present "tomorrow". The funniest part is they actually show the Mariachi Dream sequence and ask what's going on. Aaron is all, "I don't have the faintest idea what that's all about."
Aaron Diaz Interview
Expression of the day (not in the video, just my reaction to El Gordo y la Flaca and their hard-hitting interview style:
Hacerle la barba a alguien: to suck up to someone:
A las estrellas de las telenovelas más patéticas les hacen la barba, esos dos.
(Those two always suck up to the stars of the most pathetic TNS.)
(Cuz it IS the Spanish study group, right?)
Sylvia - thanks for posting that interview with Aaron Diaz. He is much cuter as Aaron than as Antonio. However, I really am not a fan of the Brylcream and was hoping he only used that in the show.
Pathetically missing El Tal last night (you are not alone, Sara! - oh and thanks for the title of that Luz song), I tried to pull up the mariachi dream on-line. I wish I hadn't deleted it so soon. I couldn't find it but when I googled "El Talisman Dream" one of my own Caray Caray comments popped up!
So when I couldn't find the dream and not knowing so many of our friends would be on the premios, I decided to catch up on Glee. Any other Gleeks out there?
Ironically, Mr. Schuster was decked out in a mariachi outfit! The episode was from 2 weeks ago and all about Spanish music and the new Spanish teacher: Ricky Martin! I wonder if this was just a one time event for him. I hope not.
NM - I keep meaning to LOL to you about El Viral. That is such a great name for our Rabid Chipmunk.
I am still getting two word verifications. Sylvia, are you still with just one? What did you do to prove you are not a robot?
R la O
I'm with Marta hoping someone will know of a link to last nights Premios. I didn't even think to watch them... don't even know what they are. I know it's not the Latin Grammys, but it seemed muscial. What is it?
They were saying El Tal is a HIT? lol Maybe they just count the number of Caray Caray comments (without reading them) as opposed to some Neilson rating.
Vivi? Are you there? You are always so good at finding links. Maybe we'll need to leave a message for Vivi after tonight's recap. She'll probably check in to say hi over the weekend.
R la O
Marta, I tried to find a pic of Novoa from last night but wasn't able to. I didn't see him on the red carpet either. I think the guy is keeping a low profile and who can blame him? Apparently not so with the others. And yes, Blanca DID say El Tal was a hit with the rating which isn't quite true. It was a huge ratings hit the first episode, probably because of all the hype, but the ratings have dropped since then so I don't know what they are all talking about.
R la O, I got the two word verifications first thing this morning but none now. It took me several tries to get it right because one of the words was unreadable.
Vivi is on her way to Egypt right now. She'll check in when she gets back.
ardilla/ardilla listada -- I've seen both. You know there's an app for that (Wordreference, I mean, not rodent ID.)
I usually don't get word verifications - no sé porqué...
looking at the men now.
La Que No Podia Amar - 18.2
Una Familia con Suerte - 16.4
El Talisman - 14.5
I have no idea what the numbers mean. Anyway, whoever posted it said that 14.5 is a pathetic rating for a 9:00 p.m. show. However since I don't know what the numbers mean I can neither concur nor dispute.
but i am still looking for a pix of PI
why does he look shorter than Blanca?
Just read Novela Maven's comment, LOL!!
When I saw Lola Ponce interviewed on the red carpet I thought either she isn't acting on the show, or someone told her to go to the awards in character. When Aaron was interviewed, he couldn't have seemed less interested. He kept looking around like he was trying to find someone better to look at or talk to than the guy interviewing him. Then the second they were done it was like he couldn't walk away fast enough. Blanca was lovely and gracious.
I thought the awards show was fun, if not terribly memorable. I adore Chino y Nacho.
Did you see the technical malfunction during Chino and Nacho's song? I kept looking around and rewinding and wondering "Where's Nacho?" Poor Chino was doing a solo dance act, not that the little stud muffin couldn't pull it off but he was clearly wondering what was going on. Then finally Nacho pops up at the end. It was really cute when they hugged in relief.
Yes, Blanca was incredibly poised and elegant, even when some fans grabbed her and yanked her over for pictures.
My favorite thing about the Premios...short speeches.
thanks, i just read in the site that there was a malfunction... i did see them hug in relief and was wondering WTH that was all about... good they got out of it unscathed..
Chino y Nacho Explicaron
I think your numbers are interesting, Sylvia. I am not surprised to see El Tal in 3rd place, but I am surprised to see it not that far behind. I wonder what the number will be after the 2nd/10th of the show is complete.
Does anyone remember when Vanessa Williams was walking on stage for some awards show and this huge pointy pillar started rising out of the ground and about gored her? Talk about a stage malfunction.
I KNOW I am sounding like a broken record, but seriously with these word verifications....... AAAAARRRGGHHHH! I just tried to email something from my local paper to Our Emilia and it asked me for a double verification too!!!!!!!! I am NOT a robot! I would never dress in the silver suit Armani wore last night!!!!!!!! Was he going for the robot or tinman look?
Emilia - I also tried to send the article to myself and I haven't received it, but it's about a local lady who takes plastic bags, cuts them into strips and crochets shopping bags out of them. Do you think beanies crocheted out of plastic have better reception?
R la O
I missed part of the awards show because I was busy supergluing my fingers (not exactly the intent) and then installing some cabinet hardware while I had it on. Did anything else noteworthy happen?
I have been taking night Spanish classes since March which I have been loving, and if I stop for a few months, which it looks likely I'll do, then I'll pick up a second novela. Isn't a new Sylvia Navarro one supposed to be coming out soon?
R la O
A couple of comments:
Hey, I hablo como Tracy. Many of us do here in California. I pienso que she speaks pretty good Spanglish.
Loved the Aaron Diaz interview and Blue Lass' comments:
Gorda and Flaco don't exactly do the hard interview, do they? I thought Aaron Diaz's languid style might have been a) lounging around like Antonio Negrete—for which he needed a drink in his hand or b) trying to slouch down in the chair to keep from being recognized. Notice how he stayed in "costume", down to the stupid horseshoe necklace and "character" when he said"¿Quien es Lola? Lucrezia Negrete?...". Pretty funny. ¿Como no?
I AM NOT A ROBOT! really...
I am glad you and R la O and the Cap'n are not robots. Sorry you ar ehaving such trials with Blogger.
So, one of the big mysteries in El Tal for me is, What is 'the plague'? I have assumed all along that it had to do with PLANTS but (tongue firmly in cheek) what if la plaga is what used to be referred to as the 'POX'? That could explain why El Troll is so worried about congress between the two rancho households.
They never have said it affects avocados, have they? O my that thought amuses me.
EJ, with a twisty sense of humor today
My first word ver. is "disability." I kid you not.
Elna June, I think your diagnosis is spot on. It explains so much. I had just been thinking the ranches had cooties but apparently it's much worse. Poor avocados and/or raisins.
EJ LOL about the plague affecting the avocados. Perhaps that is why they are so droopy.
Sylvia - Thanks for reminding me about Vivi's trip to Egypt. That came up quickly. I can't wait to see her pictures!
Sara - We would never badmouth LQNPA. We get the badmouthing out of our system with this show. But, what is the scoop about Jorge Salinas' health? Did he have pneumonia or a pulmonary embolism? Did he have to miss some of the taping of the show? How is he these days? Does anyone have the scoop?
R la O
Julia's question about any other highlights in the premios, let's see...when Luis Fonsi was about to sing Eduardo Santamarina loudly introduced GLORIA TREVI!!! Jacqueline Bracamontes elbowed him and yelled LUIS FONSI!!! and rolled her eyes at him. Alejandra Guzman's performance was kind of weird, but her red carpet outfit looked really good on her I thought. She won a premio for her song Dia de Suerte and looked shocked.
Sara, did I tell you that I saw Jorge Salinas in a live performance of Aventurera a few years ago? He is super charismatic and even hotter in person. His arm was in a sling from falling off a horse while filming FELS. Coincidentally, Edith Gonzales was in a neck brace from falling off the stage in the previous performance. I don't know what's up with him now but I hope he's OK.
Elna June, so THAT'S what la plaga is all about. I was wondering.
A Love That Strengthens
I think I'm going to reupholster my dining chairs this weekend. Stay tuned for details of how I manage to turn that into a disaster.
I did catch the Gloria Trevi bit. That was funny. I liked her singing "Gloria" although her outfit was weird. Luis Fonsi is getting more handsome with age, in my shallow opinion.
I need to replace some pre-woven cane in some chairs but have been too chicken to do it yet. I'll probably wait until some poor unsuspecting guest falls through a chair before I become motivated enough.
Gloria Trevi's outfit kept making me cock my head because she looked uneven.
I wish someone had asked in one of those interviews whether Antonio and Lucrazy are supposed to seem incestuous, or if Pedro really was high in the dream scene. Those suckup interviewers never ask the things we really want to know.
Those dumb interviewers did insinuate there was something going on between Aaron and Lola. Of course they didn't press, not like Cristina would have. But I agree with EJ that he was acting out the Antonio persona. It probably makes those ridiculous interviews more interesting for him and keeps him from having to answer the difficult questions.
R la O, I forgot to answer your question about Glee. I have watched it a couple of time and I liked it a lot, but I don't watch regularly. What a funny coincidence that the episode had mariachis and Ricky Martinez in it.
You guys are making me feel useless and inept. I thought I was doing well for hosing the dust off my fake plant today. Really, that was my big, out of the ordinary accomplishment.
Apparently dreck is more inspiring. :-)
I'm actually kinda bummed that I'm going out tonight. As crazy as it sounds I'd just as soon stay home and watch El Tal. It's like I'm gleefully anticipating the newest ridiculous things they throw at us. I can't remember the last time I laughed so much while watching a telenovela. It was probably Duelo de Pasiones.
Ditto!!! I don't care a comino about the characters or what's going to happen. I just want to see locuras.
We have the whole weekend to snark. Isn't that what weekends are for? So, get out there Cap'n and refresh your funny bone and we'll hit it again tomorrow.
Thanks for the good time.
R la O
Yes, I'm at home on a Friday night hitting "refresh." Why do you ask??? lol
Fromagefest, Hee! I like to recall my old French once in a while.