Wednesday, March 07, 2012
Abysm / Abyss of passion, new show starts Monday
Augusto Castañón and Estefanía Bouvier de Castañón are Elisa's parents. Carmina lives with them but plans to flee the town with Rosendo Arango (Alfonsina's husband, Damián's father), Alfonsina finds out and warns Augusto.
Estefanía tries to dissuade Rosendo from abandoning his family, but an automobile accident ends both their lives, so Carmine's able to convince Augusto that his wife had been unfaithful to him.
Augusto, disgusted, decides to marry Carmina though he does not love her. Alfonsina decides to send Damián away from the town to study (in order to separate him from Elisa, his dear friend, upon whom Alfonsina does not gaze with friendly eyes).
Years later, Damián comes back, now an adult and enaged to be married to Florencia Landuchi, whom he met while studying in Italy.
Paolo Landuchi, Florencia's uncle, is drawn by Elisa's beauty, but since she doesn't pay him no mind, he tries to rape her with Carmina as his accomplice. However, when Paolo is about to achieve his objective Damián appears, punches out his lights and saves Elisa.
Damián falls in love with Elisa and vice versa, so his old friend Gael becomes his enemy; Gael has also loved Elisa since he was a boy.
Augusto finds out about the relationship between Damián and Elisa, and haunted by memories of the betrayal of Rosendo and Estefanía, he frightens Elisa by threatening to kill Damián. Desperate, determined to protect the man she loves, Elisa agrees to marry Gael despite the great misery this causes her friend Paloma González who has always been crazy in love with him.
At the moment Gael and Elisa stand before the alter, Damián ...
In this land, sins are not forgiven and the past is not frogotten. Submerge yourself in the abysm of passion.
Does anyone watch any of the non-prime series? Are any of those ending yet?
I'm going to guess that ET will get moved and this will replace it. While I don't miss the 10PM programs I somehow don't think they're going away forever.
Or are they just bumping Tal to midnight or noon or something? I hope not. I need that comedy.
Sylvia is out for a few days. I am sure she will have feelings one way or the other and I will tend to follow her lead on this. It sure would be nice to recap something with a plot....and this is a remake of a classic TN. I'm in to recap one or the other.
As for El Tal, I gave up on it a while ago, which is a shame, because USA-based shows are interesting to me. (I loved Eva Luna partly for that reason.) But El Talisman is no Eva Luna! LOL.
IF I am fully hooked on Abismo, and IF there is a need, I could be a backup recapper (or every other week recapper), IF I could do one of my quickie bulleted list types of recaps (which are pretty quick to do and I think I could squeeze in the time in between my LQNPA recapping duties).
I think it would be a shame for this novela to not be recapped here on Caray. It sounds soooo much more worthy of it than El Tal.
Shutting up now.
And isn't the word "abyss"?
agree with jarocha, the summary should be cut at the last 3 paragraphs. otherwise it is MAJOR spoiler if they don't change the story.
I'd like to see the cast and the time slot before dedicating another hora. Is David Zepeda going to try to be another galan or can he revert to type (in which he excels as a classy villain).
Anita (w/a capital A)
Gotta finish with El Tal first and hope LQNPA never finishes. I'm so hooked.
The cast is amazing for this show. I kind of hope they bump ElTal to the back burner. Really, it could be well covered by short bulleted recaps—nothing ever happens in the show.
It seems that Abismo might be better served with full bore recaps—we know it has a plot. Again, I repeat that I will participate in recapping Abismo. Perhaps my esteemed colleague La Infanta Azul will continue to share a spot with me on Tuesdays?
Since I am not watching El Talisman but can't resist reading the hilarious recaps I thought your comment about zebras meant that they were filming in a wild animal refuge. I just read the comments for today and realize it's the humans that seem to be setting a new trend with zebrawear. I hope we can order it from Tal*Mart.
250 episodes? Where did you hear that Sara?
That's crazy, Cañaveral de Pasiones was only 92 episodes. What are they going to fill the other 158 episodes with?
It will have 250 episodes of 30 minutes so it will be 125 episodes of 1 hour.
Televisa tends to produce episodes of 30 minutes and then puts them together in 1 hour. This is supposed to help the flow of the episode better.
But, there will still be 33 extra hours that I don't know how they'll plan to fill.
So starting from Monday:
1 PM - 2 PM: El Talisman
7 PM - 9 PM: Una Familia Con Suerte
9 PM - 10 PM: Abismo de Pasion
10 PM - 11 PM: La que no podia amar
With Uni trying to produce more of their own tns (with mixed results so far-- Eva Luna-smash hit; El Talisman- bomb), and all the ones coming from Televisa in Mexico, I think we will continue have an abundance of tns crowding the prime time hours. This problem will not go away any time soon.
I watched the begining and I thought it was okay. Nothing close to Cañaveral, which is a classic, but I can say that my opinion might be very partial since given my love for the original. From what I saw, some actors are pretty good and some are over the top but we all know who they are if we have seen them in past stories.
I haven't warmed up to the idea of Zepeda in this particular leading role, so that's keeping me from really watching the scenes with him. I always saw this character as boyish and idealistic, in that he was the most protected and therefore the least affected character by the events of the past, so his lively self contrasted with the gloomy points of view of many characteres. But this novela is more colorful, so maybe it won't be needed as much here for him to bring lightness to the role if he can't do it.
I like the producer, Angelli Nesma, and I think she strives for creating a good novela, unlike Mejía that willingly tries to make crap, or Nicandro Díaz who always makes lifeless copies of the originals. So I don't feel this is an insult to my version even if I don't see it on the same level.
I think those who didn't watch the original will probably enjoy it much better than me.
Although I don't always understand their standards (like LVO being shown YEARS later and at midnight or shoving PVAA at that timeslot too), they must think about what their audience over there might want.
I think Uni needs to get a better idea of what its audience wants/likes. They need to learn what the differences are between the Mexican audience, and what a Spanish speaking/learning/interested audience in the U.S. wants. They also need to learn not to insult its audience by feeding it dreck, which is what El Tal is. Especially when they have so many more entertaining options coming from Telvisa's and, hopefully, their own studios too.
So far it seems to me that comedies don't get a fair shake. They either get sent to odd hours like Gancho, chopped to bits like Llena de Amor, or piled on in 2 hour doses like Dinero and Familia.
I understood why CS2009 got moved. I don't think it was the worst tn ever, but it was bad and it did not live up to the HUGE hype. I also understand why El Tal is being moved to the day. That's where that quality of tn belongs. But PVAA was a smash hit in Mex, won every award, and was high quality in every way. LVO was super entertaining and the mystery kept you on the edge of your seat. No sense at all. Any of us could do a better job than their programming person!
If any show should be bulleted, it is El Tal. Double meaning intended.
El manicomio está en las manos de los locos.
It is only those telenovelas that are HUGE in Mexico that are immediately sent to the US to see if they can elevate their numbers: Dinero, Teresa, etc.
And sometimes novelas with good numbers in Mexico are only so-so or bad in ratings in the US: CME.
CS2009 was already bombing in Mexico when it was premiered in Univision but I think they expected better numbers since Mejía's productions always do better in the US than in Mexico. For example, TDA had good ratings over there opposed to the abysmal ones it got here and Fuego was a hit in Mexico but did even better in the US. Same thing with La Madrastra.
I agree that comedies seem to be the big difference between both audiences. While those you mentioned did well in Mexico, they don't seem to be getting as big numbers in the US. I think it has to do with the variety of backgrounds of the viewers from the US as opposed to the full Mexican audience watching stories with their own type of humour and slang.
CME didn't do badly here, it was just on at the 7pm hour (a bad choice by Uni), which is not great for adult dramas here. But when I looked at the ratings, it seemed to be doing pretty well for that hour.
CUANDO ME ENAMORO: 10.1
TRIUNFO DE AMOR: 22.0
CUANDO ME ENAMORO: 9.9
TRIUNFO DE AMOR: 19.8
I take this as a confirmation that Univision has a better trust in dramas than on comedies. They probably felt the issue with CME was that the plot would change and the story would become more engaging to the public at some point but felt that Gancho wasn't going to do that and probably would stay with those numbers in the long run.