Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Abismo de pasió #32 4/24/12: Pesky Paulo Pursues Pulchritudinous Elisa, or; The Spaghetti Western Rides Again
“Who are you talking to?’ the controlling Dueña asks.
Labels: abismo
I don't think it is possible for me to dislike the character of Augusto anymore than I do. Between his misogyny and his stupidity it is hard to fathom how he could ever be redeemed, even if he is our heroine's father.
I dread tomorrow's test results and the inevitable outfall. Sorry Marta, that you drew that card!
Can someone give Elisa a BREAK? Geez.
EJ
Little things like "Well played, Flo" and "Carmima you are a hag" help take the edge off. The Spaghetti Western theme is perfect!!!!! And I think ending up with Be-Gone-Ya is a fitting fate for our Obtuse Assgusto.
"Augusto’s tiny little pea brain and withered heart." If I had to see that puss one more time last night, and that blank stare he pulls when he's suppose to be contemplative, I was going to throw something at the TV. You know when you look back fondly on the Flo/Enrique interlude, it ws a sorry night.
I was hoping Elisa would just get so pithed at her dear old sperm donor that she would give him a major verbal smackdown and leave. I hate seeing her wallow in grief over that ..... words cannot express my distaste.
Lucio recognize, or think he recognized, Irritating Ingrid? Anyone else think that? Was a strange encounter there.
Things are looking up tonight--Gael is on the loose. Little beat up the smooth operator and get into Dam's face. Didn't catch what he said, but somebody....anybody but Guppy and Assgusto and I'll be happy.
I think Maru was giving Ingrid the stink eye because she's worried about her job. Why do they need another secretary, I think she's wondering. But you did miss the hard stare Lucio gave Ingrid on his way out, and the way she tried to hide her face from him. He knows her!
Elisa should move in with her Padrino. I wonder where she and Gael will secure the money for planting the fields and paying workers?
When Horacio brought the test results to Carmeany, he said he thinks this makes them even. She doesn't say anything about his involvement in Blanca's death and he doesn't owe her any mroe favors. Carmeany didn't commit to that, so I think Horacio is going to be pulled into more intrigue. But, considering he is not so willing, I think he'll be the key in revealing the whole truth to everyone in the end.
Haven't seen this yet and not sure I can bear to watch. I hate the way the writers are piling on little Elisa.
In general, I have decried the harsh treatment meted out to female villains in these telenovelas but I'm ready to see Carmina slowly poached and then brought to a rolling boil in tanning oil!
The flashbacks of Elisa with her mother are pure heartbreak. We desperately needed a light touch here at times which you amply provided with "Yeah, Flo, it’s rough when your henchwoman in arranging illicit meetings is a foolish and inexperienced teenage hairdresser who is both loudmouthed and stupid."
The Spaghetti Western theme was inspired. Gracias!
Elna June and daisy, I do not believe Augusto deserves or will obtain redemption.
Audrey, I like your idea of Elisa and Lolita going to live with Don Lucio. Now, there is a real family!
So much bleakness. I can only say I'm grateful that there must be some happiness ahead for someone. Sometime.
Diana
Yes, I thought Lucio recognized Ingrid, too. But, I don't know why she wants to work in the procesadora. I bet she slips up and lets someone know that she is Gael's mother - and, maybe Rosendo was his father. That would really put Alfonsina's knickers in a knot.
Just when you think that the world has brought enough grief for Elisa's shoulders to bear, up pops a fraudulent paternity test. Now we know that there are no fax machines or computers in Tuxtla - or at least not in Dr. Tovar's oficina. Come to think of it, I haven't seen a cell phone either. And, we have to assume that the driver bit the dust and couldn't report that the mail had been stolen. Whew! What disbelief.
"The happy habanero music starts up as they see Flo on the other side of the street tottering along on her sky-high tacones..."
Excellent.
I do not see how Carmina's DNA fraud can hold up for very long. Surely, when the lab people learn of the ambush and robbery of the delivery man, they will notify Dr. Tovar that the results were stolen and send him a duplicate report... doncha think?
In my opinion, when she encountered Paolo in her bedroom, Elisa should have immediately begun squealing at the top of her lungs. Of course, being a guy, maybe my assessment of the situation may differ widely from the rest. What is you ladies' take on this?
Carlos
Diana - yes, the Toad is beyond redemption. I liked EJ's fate for he and Gossip Girl gossiping through the streets of Hades 4ever. That's about right.
Vivi - ITA about Horacio possibly being a key in the unmasking of the wretched Orange One. He is becoming an important accomplice (with facts and details) and currently the only one who can reveal the depravity of both witch C and Gabino. Before he goes out in a (from yesterday) shirtless blaze of glory, Sara can hopefully take comfort in this.
Audrey - Jihad is such a great term for Nem-ho's attack on Elisa; the Toad does deserve his wicked wife and former SIL. And yes Elisa and Delores should move in with Lucio.
Judy - ITA that while most female villains are punished very harshly, these writers better not let the Orange-Ho get off easy.
Pasofina - Perhaps the mail delivery man lived but even so he won't show up again until Horacio confesses or dies.
I love how you start out with the main themes, and your spaghetti western motif if perfect. You start out with a bang (OK pun kind of intended) with your terrifically alliterative title, fun stuff.
"Sabrina Tovar the teenage beech", had me laughing hard. Nicely done.
The mail whole mail theft scene was kind of clunky, but it moved the plot along quickly.
"I hope Augusto ends up with Begonia, for his sins." Amen sister!
Yep, Lucio definitely recognized Ingrid, and she cringed when she saw him.
Vivi, ITA that Elisa should get out of her hell house and move in with her padrino. They both need each other. I see Audrey remembered poor Lolita; Elisa should definitely take the faithful with her and leave Carmina and Assgusto to their miserable existence.
"I'm ready to see Carmina slowly poached and then brought to a rolling boil in tanning oil!", JudyB what a perfect ending for her. Writers, take note.
Carlos, I thought Elisa should have started screaming immediately too. I'm not sure why she lets Paolo get as close as he does. I would have blown him off completely long, long ago. Clearly she has no experience with his style of attention.
I absolutely loathe Assgusto, and I agree he is a stupid misogynist. Blech.
Yup, Horacio is a stone criminal and a liar. This will hurt when Braulio tells Lolita that Horacio said he and Gabino were friends.
Observations:
Lucio gave Irritating Ingrid the stink eye and she appeared to be trying to hide her face. Interesting....
Florencia looked like a hooker on the stroll walking through town.
Lucio declines Damian's job offer. Since Damian doesn't have any experience running the PRO CE SA DO RA I fear he'll have to rely on Gabino (ugh).
Alfonsina may have started the rumors about Elisa's sluttiness but they are being helped by Disgusto & Carmina. Why would Disgusto run to Gael and tell him about Elisa being a slut?
If Disgusto were smart he'd be encouraging Elisa to get with Gael or Paolo, to get rid of her.
All in all, this is about control. Disgusto couldn't control Estefania, so he's doubling down on Elisa.
So now that Disgusto will find out Elisa's not his daughter, will he throw her out?
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Yes, this is a good idea. Lucio wouldn't be alone and Elisa would be out of an abusive household.
reading th recap.. this jumped at me. you meant 'Horacio' just murdered Blanca, didn't you?
great title ... still reading.
Adultery:
Rosendo
Carmina
Edmundo
Defamation of character:
Alfonsina
Begoña
Carmina
Assault:
Alfonsina (against Elisa)
Augusto (against Elisa)
Gabino (against Lucio)
Gabino (against Horacio)
Embezzling:
Gabino (PRO CES SA DO RA)
Arson:
Alfonsina & Gabino (Castanon greenhouse)
Gabino & Horacio (Casa de Modas)
Medical Tampering:
Carmina, Gabino & Horacio (Castanon DNA results)
Homicide:
Gabino & Horacio (Blanca)
It's too bad for Elisa that she just doesn't feel she can't fake her own death and disappear. I hope that a future protagonist does this and comes back for revenge later on.
Carmina attempting to arrange for Elisa to be raped is about as low as any female villain I've ever seen. The only one who tops her on that is Gabriela Elizondo, who attempted to kill Sophia.
I do not see how Carmina's DNA fraud can hold up for very long. Surely, when the lab people learn of the ambush and robbery of the delivery man, they will notify Dr. Tovar that the results were stolen and send him a duplicate report... doncha think?
well, not only that but the lab woman might remember one Medusa coming in to ask for the results herself... but then againt his is a Televisa novela...
Lucio declines Damian's job offer. Since Damian doesn't have any experience running the PRO CE SA DO RA I fear he'll have to rely on Gabino (ugh).
if I were Damian i would go get Braulio to help me instead.
Why would Disgusto run to Gael and tell him about Elisa being a slut?
that is a good question.
EJ, wonderful delivery of the recap for such a grim episode! i have mixed feelings about my turn tonight with the faux paternity test restult and the kick ass by Gael/Damian on UnkaHunk... (that part i can't wait for)
All I can say is who would take Enririque when Damian was on offer? There is no accounting for taste.
DITTO sister!! UN-believable!!
Augusto may be a Grinch, but he has a heart, even if it is three sizes too small…
Lol nice way to put it… my feelings exactly…
Another of Elisa’s suitors comes to the door.
Funny how it is more often Carmina than Lola who answers the door when it is one of Elisa’s suitors…
Father Lupe tries to find out how he feels about Ingrid. She is muy amable, according to Gael.
I got a kick out of Padre Loopy’s facial expressions when questioning Gael about his interaction with Irritating Ingrid, and with Gael’s facial expressions of amusement at all the interest from Padre about it.
“Paolo was in her room last night,” Augusto tells Gael. (awesome facial expression of Gael there… determined/angry/surprised all wrapped in one shot.)
Lucio says goodbye to Maru just as Ingrid comes in with Gabino to report for her first day’s work at La Anita.
I agree with daisynjay, I also noticed a very long stare of Lucio to Ingrid, as if he was recognizing her from somewhere but he could not tell where…
Now two guys (who look a lot like Gabino and Horacio with ski-masks on their heads) ambush a postal truck…
Really? A postal truck? And I was ready to ask for my favorite ice-cream-truck flavor!! … sigh… LOL
The Spaghetti Western theme is perfect!!!!! ITA 1000%!!!
I think the previews went something like (from memory, but I did rewatch it 3x):
We see Gael grabbing Paolo in the reception at La Anita, we see Damian’s hands (plaid shirt sleeves) grabbing Gael from behind,
Gael and Damian outside, Gael yelling at Damian that Paolo was in Elisa’s room and Gael is sure he did not have good intentions! Damian believes him
Next we see Damian going back inside and threatening Paolo that if he gets near Elisa it won’t be Gael who beats the soul out of him, it will be Damian himself.
If only Elisa can leave that house and find somewhere safe to live. I hope she and Lolita go live with Don Lucio.
Great idea Audrey! I T A!!
Carlos, I too was thinking Elisa should have called for Lolita with her entire lungs… someone would have to come over, either Lola or Augusto (it was nighttime, where was he? Or was he with Lucio that late?)
also, loved EJ's notice of the heels and your comment about it... had to be you to notice it.
I love the word Pulchritudinous, I had never heard it in English before.
Carmina is so despicable, poor Elisa. Changing the DNA results is just too much.
I do wonder why Florencia called Enrique to his house. Cell phones are such a threat to telenovelas.
Jarocha
Carlos, in answer to your astute observation, yes the rafters would have been ringing ( with a few expletives I might add) if some guy I didn't want around was hanging in my bedroom waiting for me. My first question would have been "who the H*** let you in?" and then proceeded from there. But it shows, as Sylvia mentioned, Elisa's innocence on how to handle him. He's not pond scum to her like a Gabino, so she's been trying to be nice. And it isn't working.
As for Assgusto's reaction, my dad's first reaction, and he was NOT a violent man by any means, would have been to take said intruder by the scruff of the neck and lead him oh so firmly to the nearest door. And then being a PARENT, his first word to me would be "Explain." He would at least give me the chance. (Not that I would ever have done something like that mind you.)
Assgusto is as clueless in how to be a parent as Elisa is with handling men. But I think the way he did react should tell her that she needs to just find her own way and leave.She's never going to win with him. My guess is sperm donor is going to throw her out anyway.
I was looking at Anon207's list and I have a question from a perspective of the Catholic church. I am not Catholic so I don't know. Rosendo, Carmina and Edmundo committed adultery, they are married. Are unmarried people who sleep with a married person also considered to be adulterers? It seems to me that if both do the deed, knowing it is wrong in the eyes of the church, then both parties are culpable. Thoughts?
Jarocha
Thank you for this: I hope Augusto ends up with Begonia, for his sins. Excellent
Anon 207 - I love your lists! This crime one is awesome.
I wish Augusto would grow a pair of habaneros and rip up the results without looking at them. Didn't I see that once in a Lifetime movie? HE is her dad. The sperm donor matters not *especially* with Estafania gone all these years.
Anaranjad-ho frustrates me to no end. "Que? A man in her bedroom?" Aaarrgh!
R la O
Thanks for the feedback on who is adulterous. I'm not sure why, but I feel better knowing that everyone involved is sinful. I hated the idea of someone getting off on a technicality.
The first part of the novela is about the love between the characters of Araiza and Castro and then midway through the story they get separated and Daniela's character dies and we flash forward to the future where Daniela Castro plays their daughter and now the love story is with Francisco Gattorno. A simmilar chain of events from the past start happening and Araiza's character, now played by Otto Sirgo (Salvador in Gancho), tries to change the outcome this time.
Jarocha
My favorite lines:
“Yeah, Flo, it’s rough when your henchwoman in arranging illicit meetings is a foolish and inexperienced teenage hairdresser who is both loudmouthed and stupid. Cry me a river.”
“The writers are trying to convince us that Augusto may be a Grinch, but he has a heart, even if it is three sizes too small.”
“La Anita work probably interferes with his time at the gym.”
“She goes into her room to take a load off and finally get out of the pirate boots.”
Gag, though, I am getting so tired of the crying. If anyone ever had reason to stiffen up and get in touch with her inner b****, it is Eliza. Can we move on?
I thought i heard something similar too... my take on it is she is after something (spoiler removed) and she knows that she can get some if she gets a job in town and hangs around long enough... and to figure out how, she could work there... but she finds suspicious that Gabino is willing to make space for her there without asking any questions ... I guess she is getting some lights going on in her head that flash 'takes one (trickster/scheemer card player) to know one' where Gabino is concerned.
On Gabino's side, I wonder if Gabino is recognizing her... how long has he worked at La Anita?
Is this pure flirt/attraction that is making him help her?
At first it could have been 'just get someone to bump Maru off with' but it seems by now he is indeed attracted to her.
OR... he might just have had the 'curiosity' bug hit him since she has been mysteriously hanging around the pro-ce-sa-do-ra.
or a combination of all the above.
I wondered if she was wising up to the fact that he might want a little something in return and trying to backpedal. Guess we'll see.
Marta, that's a good explanation for Ingrid's comment. She is probably just curious why she got hired with no resume, no references, no interview process, and no trial period. As for Maru, the only comment she made was "Does the boss know?" It was a little weird that Ingrid just got hired without having to be interviewed by Damian and/or Maru.
I originally thought that maybe Gabino recognized her, but now I don't think so. I just think he wants a hottie indebted to him. He's creepy that way.
I think that Dr. Tovar is fairly certain (especially with Carmina's efforts to get him to alter the results... meaning that she is also even more certain of the same thing) that Elisa is Augusto's daughter, so if he sees the altered results (I don't think that he has opened the envelope yet), that, coupled with the waylaying of the mail (delivery?), will make him smell a rat... especially if (when) he finds out the envelope was delivered by the budding delinquent, Chente.
Rosemary la O,
"I wish Augusto would grow a pair of habaneros and rip up the results without looking at them."
I do too. I think it is very possible after his pep talk from Lucio that he may do just that although Paolo's stunt may have jinxed that possibility.
Carlos
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Well, we know he's worked at La Anita for at least 15 years (the amount of time Damian's been away/Useless Vicente's been alive)
In order for him to have been Rosendo's right hand man and keeping all the secrets, he had to have been a trusted worker...he wasn't a new hire. So I'm going to say Gabino (and Braulio) have been workers at La Anita for at least 15-20 years.
Just back from work and I see so many wonderful comments. Where to start?
Sara: It is hard to recap the endless scheming, isn't it? Don't you just love the Spaghetti Western theme music they play for Paolo?
Daisynjay - "You know when you look back fondly on the Flo/Enrique interlude, it ws a sorry night."
Boy, that is the truth!
Hi, Vivi:
Nice catch on the scene with Lucio and Ingrid. I edited it out in the interest of time, but realized when I saw your comment that it could be important. Great eye for detail as always, amiga.
JudyB: So good to see you. A compliment from you is a welcome gift and your solution for Carmina's demise is PERFECT.
Audrey: Jihad is right. From what I understand of the meaning of that word, it is perfect to describe Carmina's actions vis a vis Elisa.
Diana: Thank you for your kind comments. It is interesting that you think Augusto is beyond redemption. You are probably right. He went on my mierda list when he didn't mark his lovely wife's grave with a proper headstone. Bah!
EJ
Anyhoo- I do believe we decided Horacio should go out in a loinclothed blaze of glory.
I have not even watched the episode so I can't wait to see the robbing of the results. How can it go unreported.
And yes Carlos I would be screaming like a banshee if an unwanted male were I my boudoir.
I don’t understand why we care.
and
I hope Augusto ends up with Begonia, for his sins. They can gossip there way together through the streets of hell for an eternity.
Personally, I would like to see Augusto and Carmina both meet their end by falling off a roof.
Could Carmina look any more orange than she did in that orange shirt? She looked like orange sherbert(sherbet?) on my TV screen.
Carlos - I agree with you about a better reaction from Elisa, upon finding Paolo in her room. My guess is she was hoping to get rid of him without her father even knowing about it.
How would the lab know that the mail truck was ambushed?
Cap'n Sylvia - I was raised Catholic but left 35 years ago when I married. I agree 100% with Jarocha's answer. As for 'in the eyes of the church', well, that's up for grabs. In the Catholic church you can be married for decades, have twelve or forty kids, and if you donate enough money to the church, you can have that marriage annulled, therefore leaving your twelve or forty kids as 'bastards' in the eyes of the church. Sometimes, it's all about the money. I remember hearing about such things while growing up.
and the Arango hacienda also has one serving employee (Braulio lives there but he works at the pro-ce-sa-do-ra).
Hola, Carlos! ITA that Elisa should have screamed when she found Paolo in her room. And you are right, just how long can the DNA fraud hold up? Until an as yet unknown medical emergency prompts another test? Can you imagine what that might be? An organ transplant?
Hi, Karen:
So nice to see you. I like your idea that Horacio will be part of Carmina's downfall. He owes a big debt to society for murdering Blanca.
Cap'n: The themes idea is just to org my thoughts. Thanks for your ever kind words, my friend.
Anon207: You cracked me up with the "Flo looked like a hooker..." comment. Was it the tacones or the skintight black lace dress that made you say that? Jajajaja. Also thanks for the crimes list. That clears everything up.
Thanks, Marta, for catching my use of "Braulio" when I meant to say "Horacio". Oops. So sorry you get this Paternity Switch episode, m'dear.
UA: How will anyone know what is tolen from the mail truck? Good question. Do they have machines than scan letters and stuff? ITA with you about Carmina. Her behavior (and the glee with which she executes her schemes) makes me feel nauseated.
EJ
"I'm not sure why, but I feel better knowing that everyone involved is sinful."
Thanks,
Carlos
Cap'n Sylvia - I take it all with a grain of salt. Do you remember the tee shirt, ages ago, with the saying, "Good girls go to heaven, but bad girls go everywhere." ;o)
LOL!
I was six when my parents got married in the Church and I actually have memories of it, heh.
Jarocha
Great comments. Glad you enjoyed the recap.Tough material to have fun with, tho.
Jarocha
Thanks for popping by. 'pulchritudinous' is not a frequently used word in English, but I love it. Interesting to note that annulments are not easy to get and are expensive. I guess it can't be that easy to undo a sacrament.
Doris
Carmina had that tangel-Ho glow, for sure. Why do you want the loving couple to fall off a roof?
RlaO:
Hi, amiga! Thanks for popping by. Hope all is well with you.
Sara
I am so with you about work interfering with my telenovela addiction. Even commenting from an IPad is hard to sneak in between meetings. Darn! Smile!
EJ
I am without cc's lately and am dependent on my listening Spanish skills and context for recapping. Arghh!
I, too, have a real problem understanding Sabine's Spanish. She has many odd affectations in playing this role. I have also read that she has been very ill so perhaps that is affecting her enunciation.
Or maybe it is just me and my listening-only Spanish is mediocre at best.
Thanks again for your recap last Friday. I didn't catch it until last night, but it was very good.
EJ
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