Tuesday, May 08, 2012
El Talismán #70 Tue 5/8/12 It's All About the Sex, A Reluctant Bridegroom, and A Gun
Previously on El Talisman:
Mariana wants Cameela's help to recover her memory, but Cameela tells her she really needs Pedro to help her.
Today on El Talisman:
Margarito and Pedro are dropping the Padre off at the orphanage so he can bless it before he leaves for Tijuana. Padre comes in and hears giggling and moans and groans. Now Gabe and Sarita are upstairs, ya know, wait for it, DOING IT, when the Padre catches them. Now, I have to say here, I am Catholic and this would have been my worst nightmare, the guilt, the shame, you get the picture. Anyhoo, Padre asks them what in the world they think they are doing? Don't you know you could get pregnant. Gabe and Sarita are sooo ashamed, yeah right, they are thinking busted, by of all things a priest, oh the guilt, the shame. The Padre turns his back as they are desperately trying to get dressed. And he is still lecturing them about the evils of pre-marital sex. He sees out of the corner of his eye , that they are desperately trying to get dressed and he tells them he will meet them downstairs, and by the way, NO FUNNY STUFF. And he doesn't want them doing anymore of that. punto.
Pedro and Margarito have gone to Social Services to see Santiago. They meet Lilianna the social worker. She wants to know how Santiago ended up at El Talisman. Pedro explains but says he was only there for like a half day and didn't really live there. He tells Lilianna that Santiago is an orphan. She wants to know if there is any other family. He doesn't know. Santiago wants to go with Pedro to El Tal, but Lilianna says he has to stay there for now. Margarito offers to settle him into foster care. Santiago says to Margarito you helped me before, please help me now, the poor kid is practically begging, but Margarito says , sometimes life is hard and you have to deal with it. Santiago thinks he doesn't care about him. Margarito tells him to trust him and he will visit him as much as he can. He makes Santiago promise he won't run away again. Santiago promises and Margarito gives him a big hug, they are both very sad. Pedro also tells Lilianna that he reported Santiago to El Capitan so they could maybe find another relative.
Mariana and Cameela are talking at Tia Maria's still. She wants to know if Cameela remembers anything about her? Cameela says no, not really she never met her before she disappeared. Cameela says she will take her to El Tal to see if she remembers anything. Cameela calls Pedro and tells him she is going to El Talisman with Mariana, to see if she can recover some of her memory.
Tonio and Valentin are in the little office at Alcatrash and Tonio wants Valentin to get that gun from Pedro.
Pigorio and Panchito are in Pigorio's bedroom. Pigorio is frantic about finding Doris, and he is upset. Panchito tells him to calm down and remember to stay calm. Panchito goes to the bedside table and picks up the bottle of pills (Ruh Roh) and reminds Pigorio he needs to take them. Pigorio takes a pill and he tells Panchito he is in love with Doris. He said something at the end I didn't catch.
Fabi and Flor are talking about their Mama Doris. They are worried yet again about Cami possibly marrying Tonio, but Flor reminds Fabi about what Tracy said.
Cameela and Mariana are at El Talisman, and Domitilla greets Mariana and asks her if she remembers her? Mariana says no, she doesn't. Mariana tells Cameela she feels safe at El Tal. Cameela tells her she will remember little by little, it takes time. They are in the living room of El Tal and Cameela wants to take her upstairs, but Mariana is afraid to go there. Domitilla and Cameela are concerned for Mariana. They ask if she is ok, and she says she doesn't remember anything yet. Finally Cameela and Mariana go upstairs.
Manuel is in his office and Maria comes in. They greet each other and Manuel tells her he is sorry he snapped on Cameela yesterday. Maria tells him she is El Viral's daughter, but nothing like her. Manuel tells Maria that Mariana went to see Cameela. Manuel tells Maria that Mariana has no memories of Fresno, and went with Cameela to El Talisman. Maria says you know that Cameela is in love with Pedro, and that Mariana thinks she is in love with Pedro. Manuel has taken hold of Maria's forearms, she squiggles out of them, because it looks like he wants to hug her and maybe, wait for it, plant a kiss. Maria tells Manuel what El Viral said. Manuel tells Maria he wants more than a professional relationship with Maria, he wants Maria back. They are gazing at each other very lovingly I'd say. I also say Maria was giving him the signal, which he TOTALLY missed. There are sparks there.
Pedro goes to see El Capitan and Pedro tells him he wants to have Santiago come live with him. El Capitan tells him they have to go through the proper channels and for now Santiago has to stay at foster care. El Capitan tells Pedro he needs to talk to Mariana. Pedro tells El Capitan, wait for it, Lucrazy tried to kill me!
Lucrazy wakes up from her drunken stupor and Tonio is there. She has a massive hangover, and he is yelling at her about drinking, wait for it, MI TEQUILA. She reminds him that he is trying to kill their Papa. He grabs her face and she says she has a killer hangover. They are talking about Doris again too. Doris is complicated. He tells Lucrazy you can trust me, cause I have a surprise for you. Lucrazy wants to know if he is going to betray her.
Cameela and Mariana have gone upstairs into Mariana's old bedroom. She thinks it was very special to have left it the way it was. Cameela tells Mariana that Pedro looked for her for years, about the fliers around town, and the investigator, and even Dr. Raul looked for her. Mariana is touching the furniture and looking at everything, and says it all is so new to her. She opens a drawer and there is a suitcase. She doesn't want to open it. She doesn't want to remember what is in there. Cameela tells her she will remember and that she cares about Mariana, despite everything. Cameela and Mariana are talking still. Mariana says she is so confused. She had a husband, was pregnant, lost the child, disappeared. What happened to her? Cameela says she doesn't know, but Cameela tells Mariana that she was like a ghost between Cameela and Pedro. Noone knew if she was dead or alive, until the day she showed up at their wedding. She asks Mariana to please understand. They both cry. Mariana finally opens the suitcase and finds a baby shirt in there. She asks if this was for her baby, but Cameela doesn't know. Mariana has a vison of herself being pregnant and looking in the mirror, Cameela is sensing that Mariana is remembering, she asks Mariana while trying to touch her shoulder and Mariana snaps on her and tells her NO MI TOQUES! Mariana is crying. Cameela goes and gets Mariana some water, and asks her if she is ok? She tells Mariana that next time she comes to El Tal she should bring Manuel with her. Mariana agrees. Cameela tells Mariana it isn't her fault she lost the baby. She tells Mariana to be calm and that they will leave the room now. Mariana thanks Cameela for bringing her here.
Margarito and Pedro have made it back to the orphanage, I think, and is confronted by Padre, who tells Pedro he wants Gabe and Sarito to get married right away. Pedro is like, why right away, what is the problem they are novios, si? Padre says, wait for it, THEY ARE MUCH MORE THAN NOVIOS. Padre tells Pedro and Margarito, he caught Gabe and Sarita, wait for it, EN FLAGRANTE, (buck ass naked and doing it, jus' saying). Pedro and Margarito want to bust a gut, you can tell, but they smirk alot and control themselves. He asks Gabe and Sartia if they are in love, they say they are, so Pedro doesn't think there is a problem. Margarito or Pedro asks if they aren't too young? And they ask Sarita, are you embarazada? She is hiding her face, poor thing is EMBARRASSED AND ASHAMED. I tell you the guilt and shame is catching up with her. She says she isn't. Padre insists they are getting married, pronto and he is officating, so cancel that trip to Tijuana. Moral lesson of the day: Never get caught by a Padre (EN FLAGRANTE)! Gabe is looking scared and Sarita is looking happy. Pedro tells Sarita he will walk her down the aisle. She is very happy. Padre, Sartia, and Margarito leave and Pedro talks to Gabe. Gabe says he is scared, that marriage is a big responibilty and he isn't prepared for it.
Pigorio has gone over to see M. Brigette he just has to talk to her, he is desperate to find Doris. He wants to know if she is there, call her down already! Brigette tells Pigorio she doesn't know where Doris is.
Meanwhile Lucy is upstairs telling Doris that Pigorio is downstairs. Doris isn't going down. She wants to make Pigorio sweat for her. Lucy says if you love him, go down there. She stays upstairs.
Pigorio is still downstairs with M. Brigette and she tells him, last she heard Doris was still at Alcatrash. She wants to know why he is looking here? Pigorio told Brigette he really thought Doris was there. Pigorio is leaving and he stops and asks Brigette if she sees Doris to let him know. He also asks Brigette if Doris has a lover, maybe someone younger? Brigette tells him of course not. With Doris it isn't about the SEX, its about the MONEY! Pigorio leaves, and Brigette has tears in her eyes. I have to say I really think Brigette is in love with Pigorio. Why the tears? Why the longing look in her eyes? Hum??? Pigorio leaves and Brigette goes upstairs and talks to Doris. Doris wants to know what Pigorio said. Brigette tells her she ought to go back to Alcatrash.
Padre, Sarita and Margarito are outside talking about the upcoming wedding. Sarita wants white everything (are you still allowed to wear white, after you have ahem, you know, DONE IT, just sayn'). Padre reminds Sarita that marriage is a blessed sacrament and it is for the rest of your life. He wants her to remember that and contemplate it. He will talk to Gabe now, and he leaves.
Pigorio is in his office thinking of , wait for it, DORIS of course. He remembers when he found out she wasn't Katerina but DORIS. He says, wait for it, MALDITA SEA ,DORIS. He, wait for it, NEEDS her CARESSES, her KISSES, everything about her. He is calling for Valentin, but Valentin isn't there, he is on that misson for Tonio. Panchito comes instead and asks what Pigorio wants? Pigorio wants Valentin, and Panchito says he left, doesn't know where. I think Pigorio thinks he left for good, cause I swear he said, wait for it, I'll KILL HIM. Pigorio wants Panchito to see if he can find Valentin. And wouldn't ya know it guess who comes waltzing in, wait for it, DORIS of course. She wants to know about her girls.
Meanwhile, Valentin is over at El Tal looking for a gun in the little office of Pedro's. He searches a cabinet, goes over to the desk and finds a handgun. He takes it up with a pencil and puts it in his waistband and leaves. He can't beleive the luck he has had with finding it and noone being there to stop him. NOTE TO PEDRO: Get a frigging security system already, por favor.
Tonio is in the hallway at Alcatrash and thought bubbles about Lucrazy finding that poison and accusing him of trying to kill their Papa. Valentin comes in and gives Tonio the gun. Tonio points it at Valentin, who looks VERY uncomfortable. Tonio goes into the little office and Valentin follows. Tonio has wrapped the gun in a kerchief, and Valentin wants to know what he is going to do with it. I think Tonio says it will be used to kill someone.
There was some stuff with Fabi, Flor, her friend and Army. They talk about their secret relationship (Fabi and Army), noone can find out. Flor's friend accuses Flor of being jealous of Fabi and Army and both girls (Fabi and Flor) wanting to find Doris and living with her. They don't want to be stuck at the Pig Sty with Tonio. And no Angel in sight today!
Now a scene with Madame Gasbag, er, El Viral. She talks to Manuel's receptionist, and asks her if she remembers her. The woman says she does. El Viral asks her something about Mariana, maybe an address or phone number? The woman is getting her something, and El Viral thought bubbles to herself, wait for it, I will get MI CHEQUE, from Mariana. Boo Hiss Lady. The gas is building again. Hopefully there is no screeching this time! I don't think the MARMOTS will live it down, jus' sayin.
Mariana and Cameela have come down to the living room at El Talisman and Mariana is touching the sofa and Cameela is telling her to be calm and little by little she will get her memory back. Mariana thanks Cameela again for being with her during this difficult time. Domitilla brings them some coffee. Pedro comes in and greets Cameela with MI AMOR and kisses her right in front of Mariana. (Height of bad manners I say), anyhoo, he asks Mariana if she remembers anything, she says no. As a matter of fact, she tells Pedro, she beleives that Pedro and her were like brother and sister, and wait for it, IS GIVING HIM THE DIVORCE!!!! Pedro and Cameela are very happy.
Tomorrow on El Talisman:
Doris and Pigorio are making out and Doris tells Pigorio she wants to, wait for it, MARRY HIM!
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My cable was a little spotty today so if I missed something let me know. Hilarious scenes with Padre and Gabe and Sarita. Thanks Blue Lass for the marmots, I used them here.
Who would have thought that Brigette has feelings for Pigorio? That was a surprise.
And no Angel today! I hope we see him trying to get to know Flor. She could so have a nice boy now.
That poison is working on Pigorio. He sure was huffing and puffing and I don't think it has to do with Doris, jus' sayin'
Who would have thought that Brigette has feelings for Pigorio? That was a surprise.
And no Angel today! I hope we see him trying to get to know Flor. She could so have a nice boy now.
That poison is working on Pigorio. He sure was huffing and puffing and I don't think it has to do with Doris, jus' sayin'
That scene with the lovebirds and the priest was very funny. When they were explaining it all to Pedro, he looked like he was going to laugh. I was laughing. Poor Gabe though. He looked so unhappy. That'll teach him to be EN FLAGRANTE. Ha! Good vocabulary lesson.
My antenna was fuzzing out a little (but only during the show; the commercials came in just fine). When Valentin was looking for the gun, did he say something about Lucrazia? Like maybe he knows the gun is hers rather than Pedro's?
Good to see Pedro now has full-grown avocados. He told the social services woman something to the effect of 'If you had done you job properly and investigated, you'd know I reported Santiago to the cops already". Way to stand up for yourself, Pedro! A couple months ago he would've stayed silent and probably ended up in jail.
Word ver: Needur hedquest. Hey Elvira, do you needur hedquest? Probably.
Kelly
My antenna was fuzzing out a little (but only during the show; the commercials came in just fine). When Valentin was looking for the gun, did he say something about Lucrazia? Like maybe he knows the gun is hers rather than Pedro's?
Good to see Pedro now has full-grown avocados. He told the social services woman something to the effect of 'If you had done you job properly and investigated, you'd know I reported Santiago to the cops already". Way to stand up for yourself, Pedro! A couple months ago he would've stayed silent and probably ended up in jail.
Word ver: Needur hedquest. Hey Elvira, do you needur hedquest? Probably.
Kelly
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 5:18:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 5:18:00 PM EDT
Madelaine, thank you for ANOTHER terrific recap. You are on a roll, getting funnier every day.
Hey, I (we) got my (our) wish about Cami and Mariana teaming up. They are both nice ladies and can help each other out.
That thing that Pigorio said to Panchito was that Panchito should watch what he says about Doris (being Pig's lover) because even though Panchito is the only son who serves him, Pigorio will kill him. Nice dad, eh?
OMG, Elvira is STILL plotting and planning to get MI CHEQUE. That woman has a one track mind. That CHEQUE is even more important to her than Manuel. For now. I think this was my favorite line of the day: "I don't think the MARMOTS will live it down, jus' sayin." Poor marmots.
Those scenes with Gab and Sarita were an absolute scream. I feel sorry for Gab, what started as a mere roll in the hay is now turning into a marriage. I think Gab and Sarita have one of the healthiest relationships on the show. I kind of hate to see it change.
Hey, I (we) got my (our) wish about Cami and Mariana teaming up. They are both nice ladies and can help each other out.
That thing that Pigorio said to Panchito was that Panchito should watch what he says about Doris (being Pig's lover) because even though Panchito is the only son who serves him, Pigorio will kill him. Nice dad, eh?
OMG, Elvira is STILL plotting and planning to get MI CHEQUE. That woman has a one track mind. That CHEQUE is even more important to her than Manuel. For now. I think this was my favorite line of the day: "I don't think the MARMOTS will live it down, jus' sayin." Poor marmots.
Those scenes with Gab and Sarita were an absolute scream. I feel sorry for Gab, what started as a mere roll in the hay is now turning into a marriage. I think Gab and Sarita have one of the healthiest relationships on the show. I kind of hate to see it change.
Why are Gabe and Sarita going along with the wedding, just because Padre says? And if I recall correctly, wasn't Padre the one who set up Pedro's and Camila's overnight abandonment on the beach for a romantic roll on the...sand (uncomfortable!)...and while Pedro is STILL MARRIED?!
I've been loving the way everyone tells Evilra off lately. She pushes so many of my buttons. Can't wait for her to really suffer. The only check she deserves is a check-in at a manicomio.
Thanks once again, Madelaine! I agree you are getting funnier all the time.
I've been loving the way everyone tells Evilra off lately. She pushes so many of my buttons. Can't wait for her to really suffer. The only check she deserves is a check-in at a manicomio.
Thanks once again, Madelaine! I agree you are getting funnier all the time.
Cap'n I too am glad that Cameela and Mariana are teaming up. I think if Pedro had introduced them in the first place they would have been wonderful friends. Thank you for what the Pig said to Panchito. Poor Panchito he is really the only one that loves the Pig and cares about what happens to him.
Kelly-thanks for Liliana and Pedro's conversation about reporting Santiago to El Capitan. I agree he would have shuffled off before and been thrown in jail.
Julia-Yeah it is kind of like that. If you ever get caught by a Padre, *doing it* then you are getting married punto. Padre's frown on pre-marital sex, and I agree with you, he set Pedro and Cameela up, BUT he didn't catch them, so basically they could lie to him and go to confession in like a week, with another priest mind you and confess, jus' sayin'.
I agree with both of you about the CHEQUE. I like Julia's idea yesterday about the fishing pole, too funny. It would serve her right. I really hope she never gets that CHEQUE.I too hope she ends up poor as a church mouse.
Kelly-thanks for Liliana and Pedro's conversation about reporting Santiago to El Capitan. I agree he would have shuffled off before and been thrown in jail.
Julia-Yeah it is kind of like that. If you ever get caught by a Padre, *doing it* then you are getting married punto. Padre's frown on pre-marital sex, and I agree with you, he set Pedro and Cameela up, BUT he didn't catch them, so basically they could lie to him and go to confession in like a week, with another priest mind you and confess, jus' sayin'.
I agree with both of you about the CHEQUE. I like Julia's idea yesterday about the fishing pole, too funny. It would serve her right. I really hope she never gets that CHEQUE.I too hope she ends up poor as a church mouse.
So here's another thought about Elvira and EL CHEQUE. Next time they need more trees at El Tal, they should tell her EL CHEQUE is buried somewhere in the new orchard. Then they could plant the trees in all the holes she digs looking for the check.
And when Armando is ready for a job, he should look into opening a locksmith shop. No one seems to have locks on doors, not even on offices with important stuff and guns in them.
Kelly
And when Armando is ready for a job, he should look into opening a locksmith shop. No one seems to have locks on doors, not even on offices with important stuff and guns in them.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:36:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:36:00 PM EDT
Kelly great idea for El Viral and Armando. Armando would make a killing, but El Viral would try and get his money. Maybe she would be too busy looking for El Cheque lol
I wonder who's gun that is that Valentin got. It sure looks like the one Lucrazy had. I know it has got Pedro's prints all over it. I am glad Pedro told El Capitan that Lucrazy tried to kill him, this gives El Capitan a heads up, in case anything happens. Tonio is a bumbling criminal. I wonder if Tonio will shoot Pigorio and Lucrazy and blame it on Pedro. He sure looks like he wants to get rid of Lucrazy too. Two birds with one stone, in other words.
I wonder who's gun that is that Valentin got. It sure looks like the one Lucrazy had. I know it has got Pedro's prints all over it. I am glad Pedro told El Capitan that Lucrazy tried to kill him, this gives El Capitan a heads up, in case anything happens. Tonio is a bumbling criminal. I wonder if Tonio will shoot Pigorio and Lucrazy and blame it on Pedro. He sure looks like he wants to get rid of Lucrazy too. Two birds with one stone, in other words.
Thanks Madlaine...more fun.
About the pistol...
When Val handed it to Tony it was wrapped in the blue bandanna but Tony unwrapped it and held the naked gun in his left hand pointing it at Valentín, thus adding his own fingerprints. I'm certain of this because I rewound and watched again because I couldn't believe that he would be so careless (OK, so I can believe that our Antonio would be that stupid).
In the next scene he handled the gun carefully wrapped again in the blue bandanna. He verified that it is the Indian's gun and that no one saw Val as he was snooping, and then said that Gregorio best behave himself... if not, the Indian will kill him.
Carlos
About the pistol...
When Val handed it to Tony it was wrapped in the blue bandanna but Tony unwrapped it and held the naked gun in his left hand pointing it at Valentín, thus adding his own fingerprints. I'm certain of this because I rewound and watched again because I couldn't believe that he would be so careless (OK, so I can believe that our Antonio would be that stupid).
In the next scene he handled the gun carefully wrapped again in the blue bandanna. He verified that it is the Indian's gun and that no one saw Val as he was snooping, and then said that Gregorio best behave himself... if not, the Indian will kill him.
Carlos
Thank you Carlos. I couldn't understand why Tonio touched it the way he did. Valentin was way more careful, and thank you for what Tonio said. I am still wondering what the surprise is, he told Lucrazy about.
So I had to go back and check about the gun and what Valentin said. I think the captions that said "Lucrazia" might have been for the previous scene so the gun may or may not be hers. But if Tony got careless and put his prints all over it, it's moot.
Seriously, has there ever been a more incompetent bad guy? Where is he getting all his self-confidence?
Kelly
Seriously, has there ever been a more incompetent bad guy? Where is he getting all his self-confidence?
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:02:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:02:00 PM EDT
Kelly, he's incompetent because he is drunk all the time. He has a lot of self-confidence because he is drunk all the time. That's my theory.
Carlos, thanks for the gun details. The writing and plot have improved immensely, but we still get a few question marks from time to time.
Carlos, thanks for the gun details. The writing and plot have improved immensely, but we still get a few question marks from time to time.
Kelly, the captions referring to Lucrazy in the scene where Val is in Pedro's office were for the *following* scene -- which didn't come until after the commercial! It was very confusing.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:12:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:12:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the fun, Madelaine. Favorite line:
"NOTE TO PEDRO: Get a frigging security system already, por favor."
Really! If I lived right next door to a homicidal nymphomaniac and a drunken stalker, I'd at least think about a dog.
"NOTE TO PEDRO: Get a frigging security system already, por favor."
Really! If I lived right next door to a homicidal nymphomaniac and a drunken stalker, I'd at least think about a dog.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:15:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:15:00 PM EDT
Does anyone know if there was a past between Brigette and Pigorio, besides him visiting her place of business all the time? I hope they show some flashbacks of him and what happened to his wife.
I'm beginning to think that Lucrazy has more brains than Tonio, except when it comes to Pedro of course. If I were Lucrazy I would take a long trip to the manicomio for some rest.
I'm beginning to think that Lucrazy has more brains than Tonio, except when it comes to Pedro of course. If I were Lucrazy I would take a long trip to the manicomio for some rest.
Lucy said that Brigette, Doris's mother, and Pig's wife were all friends. She seemed to think Brigette and Pig had more history than that but wasn't sure, but she IS sure that Brigette is keeping some big secret.
Have we heard what became of Doris's family? Are her parents dead?
Have we heard what became of Doris's family? Are her parents dead?
Julia thank you for the info on Brigette. I wonder what happened to Doris' parents too. What parents would allow a 14 year old to marry, pregnant or not? Doris must have some money, cause knowing Pigorio, he would never have forced Tonio to marry someone with no money.
Hmm...maybe it *is* the same gun -- but if so, I don't think Tony realizes it. It could get interesting.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at 1:04:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at 1:04:00 PM EDT
I thought that at one point we had learned that Brigette was a friend of Doris's sister, but maybe that's history that's been rewritten and we're supposed to have forgotten.
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