Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Abismo de pasión #66 6/13/12: The younger villains have a bad day, Tangel-Ho better brace for the big reveal... good guys huddle and put their thinking caps on
Recap by Marta Ivett
Labels: abismo
Assgusto did the right thing for the wrong reason. I do not want to see Assgusto boinking Kenia. That would be beyond my tolerance level.
When will Doc Tovar call for duplicates of those blood tests?
TangelHo is skating on very thin ice. Is Elisa finally fighting back?
"too many chiefs, indians confused".
I am still laughing. I think that describes the whole scene over at La Anita.
-Who's on first? No, he's on second.-
I sure wouldn't want to be caught between Damian and Alfonsina. They are being completely unfair to their employees. Dam doesn't mind contradicting his mother's orders but he is not in her LEAGUE as far as manipulations go.
Speaking of Damian, I just am not buying the instant redux with Dam/Flo. Too soon. Too sashimi. I prefer my ahi seared with a little FIRE on the outside.
I thought Gael and Paloma were cute today, especially his little gesture of the finger to her cheek as he said goodbye. Now, that stopped my heart. Tacher is still tops on my list. I still can't get the People photograph out of my mind.
Responding to Carlos yesterday, I like Doc Tovar too. I hope he order dups of the blood tests and keeps working on his marriage with Begonia. She's giving it the old college try.
Carmina might just get dangerous if she thinks Kenia is a real threat. I wish we knew when she turned 18.
UA, could not agree more. Right thing for the wrong reason. Really could not look if they went with an Augusto/Kenia pairing. I would need an airsick bag by the sofa.
Marta, I do not know that song...
EJ
The slap heard round the world was pretty good. I'd say so far our main squeeze is taking the lead on ratings.
I so wish Ramona would spill the beans, but I also worry for her. Never good to know too much in a TN unless you're a priest. Carmina is going to get dangerous... too many turths coming out and she's going to need to lash out at someone. Questions will be who?
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btw, i like the idea of sushi at the patio with our margaritas, tequila and champagne... yum!
Ramona, why are you holding back? Stephe was one of the few who was kind to Paloma, the little girl selling bread in the street! You should step up to the plate for Stephe, no one has truly been in her corner from day one, too bad.
Alfie should get all her internado money back, Dam can't analyze anything! Like EJ's 2004 computer, he strains and strains to put both the rare blood types and Elisa's 180 degree change in some type of order. He all but grunts as he thinks about it all!
A couple steps forward with Augusto today, I'm sure he'll take the required novela four steps back tomorrow!
Yes! Our Silver Fox, Guido, " shouldn't be in the novel" he is too smart and reasonable!!!! If Alfie gets him in the end, I'm going to be furious!
What was with the CCs last night, multi-colors, underlined, strange letters from other languages, numbers and caps within a word.......never saw such a thing! Doris, did you watch the episode on Comcast last night?
"Barbie, haven't you heard you should think about it before you sign on the dotted line?" had me chuckling out loud. "He understands his place is with a woman like me, not with the daughter of the woman who killed his father!... -(Slap!) This is so you won’t talk to me like that ever again. (Slap!) And this is so you don’t mess with my mother again! Talk to the hand" was simply great.
I too was surprised that Gael showed up at Paloma's workplace! It will be interesting to see if he can truly channel his lifelong feelings of friendship into romantic ones. Will Paloma's infectious love be enough for both of them?
Everybody loves Ramona. She was brillant at the gravesite, knowing Augusto will be groveling in the end. I can't believe he had never been to the grave before. Ack. And then Ramona's brillant deduction that the "other" woman was Carmina was icing on the cake.
Kenia seemed desperate to change Augusto's mind. I'm perplexed. Why? Aside from his good looks and charming personality, what could the (any) attraction possibly be?
Elna June: ITA with "I just am not buying the instant redux with Dam/Flo. Too soon". Exactly.
Thanks Marta! Diana
I really enjoyed that double slap Elisa dole out to Flor. It was even better when Alfie told Flor to suck it up and quit whining about it. Myabe she was remembering that slap Elisa gave her all those episodes back that left her with a bloody mouth. Both Flor and Alfie now know to stand 10 feet away from Elisa if they intend to insult her mama.
Kenia, Kenia, Kenia. I think she's looking for a father figure. I hope Gael figures out what's going on and is able to talk some sense into his little sis.
Gael's giving it the old college try with Paloma, and not just half-heartedly like Dam with Flor. I was also happy to see him drop by Pal's work for a midday visit and invitation out to eat. I was more shocked that Pal didn't just drop her work and do it. Guess she actually heard what Doc Tovar was saying to her.
Both Damian and Gael should have figured out by now that they are brothers. They have both heard that Gael's dad was someone important in town; both have heard that the dad is dead; both have seen strained interactions between Alfie and Ingrid; both know how much Alfie has always hated Gael; and both know they have the same rare blood type. Actually, since Gael is the one who's actively trying to find out who his dad is, he's the one who should be collecting info and connecting dots.
But Dam is being stupid about not figuring out what the true price of Alfie's loan to Elisa was.
I still can't figure out why Ramona has kept mum for so long about what she knows and suspects. Of course, now that she's announced that she's going to tell the truth (like Blanca), I'm worried about her.
So Elisa grew a pair last night. Guess that means she'll be sniveling for the next two nights (as that seems to be her pattern.)
I really hope Ramona makes it to the end. Who knows what?
Hmmm. Let's see
Doc: Knows Cheat-ho was pregnant long before she married Sr. Cat Food., but not who the baby daddy was.
Ramona: Knows Steffie "had to stop them" and that Carmina was Rosendo's HO.
Padre: Knows Carmina was Rosendo's HO
Gab: Knows Carmina was Rosendo's HO and knows Gael is Rosendo's Son/Dam's half bro. Knows Carmina faked blood tests.
Kenia: Knows who Gael's daddy is. What else does she know? I seem to remember she knows more.
ING: knows Rosendo is Gael's daddy.
Carmina: knows Horacio killed Blanca at Gab's request; knows Assgu has the hots for Kenia.
I'm terrible at lists. Can't wait for one of Anon207's lists. :-)
Speaking of slaps: That.was.awesome.
Oh, and please me put me on the "too soon Dam/Flo" list.
sorry bud but you are no MT. no matter how much you try. period.
Ya'll must now have the some company that is doing my Spanish CCs. I would much prefer to use Spanish CCs but stuff like
toyad o %* yiendo d
For
Estoy harto de todo y no entiendo nada
doesn't help much.
(PS: somewhat fictionalized example but an honest approximation.)
"he is another one who should be putting all the facts on table and building the puzzle.
We need to drag Padre, Doc, Ramona and Don Lucio to the cantina and get them talking/comparing notes.
To all our medical professionals: I would like an assessment of Dam's cane. It seemed too short to me. I know, stupid and nit-picky, but I noticed it and it annoyed me. Of course, I know nothing about the proper use of a cane unless tap dancing is involved.
my money is on Ramona or Lucio... and Doc would throw in his two bits of info or confirm Ramona's info.
still don't think Augie will be able to handle it... mostly for what Ramona told him at cemetery, 'you won't be able to handle the remorse, having to appologize to your dead wife and to your daughter...'
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Ditto. I hope it's a huge blow up, too! All public and screaming like.
But in my thirst for vengeance I wonder what Augie's reaction will do to Elisa. She does love him and she doesn't strike me as the type to rub it in. Will she gain one parent (since Steffie's rep will be redeemed) only to lose another (Augie will be Cat Food to everyone and though he has been awful to her, she still loves him/wants his love.)
What's that line from Gone With the Wind?
"Apparently any mother, even a bad one, is better for a child than none."
Just change it to FATHER. This line has been running through my head for weeks.
Anyway, GREAT recap! I really appreciate all the fantastic detail, especially from this mumble-mouthed group of actors (except for Lucio).
I was surprised by the doble cachetada from Elisa. Bonus! I agree, she is in first place in the slap fest. Flo looked so shocked; clearly she's not used to being called on her snotty remarks.
Oh dear, now I am worried for Ramona. Haven't our characters learned that a partial reveal is practically a death sentence?
Did y'all catch the way Lucio was eyeballing Maru at the Proce? Hopefully he will ask her out for a date or something.
Of course the double slap was last night's highlight. Perfectly timed. I was duly impressed.
Sandy, today I sent a complaint to my Univision contact here in Houston. It really did seem to help before. We'll see in a few days.
Proud of Augusto last night but worried about the avances.
Carlos
If Ramona dies before she outs Carmina, I will be reeeally enojada!
Sandy in TN - We're on AT&T U-Verse now, and no more Comcast. I don't have the CCs engaged, so I have no idea how they are on AT&T U-v. I think the CCs come from the network and not the cable provider.
The procesadora is top heavy management wise. They seem to hire anyone who needs a job yet there is so little product that leaves the fabrica!
Even as a father figure he isn't exactly coming up aces. Poor girl. she may be barking up a tree that is going to wind up coming down on her. TIMBER!!
The fact that Rmaona is letting Padre know she's going to finally do her tell-all version of events, could it be, and I don't remember, that Padre may have asked her to keep quiet all this time? There really was nothing holding her back from spilling at the very beginning, and as much as I love her, that aspect of the secret keeping has always bugged me.
I say Creamsicle will never be a redeemable character. If anything, she's going to get worse, and like I conjectured the other day, she will be the one out of the eveil trio ( her, II and Alfi) to actually cross the line to offing someone. Her candidate list is growing. Right now, I think it's either going to be Paolo or Kenia, but I worry for Ramona too. (Though Creamsicle doesn't know exactly what Ramona knows does she?)
now she has gathered some facts and circumstantial evidence, now she has a solid document evidence of Carmina's affair with Rosie... with the pregnancy date mismatch. Now she considers she has enough facts/pieces lined up that SOMEONE will pay attention to what she is saying... and she doesn't even know about the whole ordeal with the pearl silver heart necklace story.
Padre also knows Nina told him she was going to tell all right before she was murdered and he can tell that to people without breaking any confession secret/ties. the problem is all he can say is that Nina said she was going to open some eyes and things would change from here on out... that's all she really said.
However, putting that together with Maru seeing Nina leave the procesa the afternoon of the earlier day so upset/anxious might add to it.
I am doing the best I can from hotel without the recorder... so i tell my kids not to interrupt me while i warp-speed-type obsessively during the show (dont get the west coast channel either so no second chances to go back to) and then edit the heck out of it aftewards.
As for the episode, that double slap carried me all the way to the end. (What was that about Slap Bingo yesterday?)
I particularly enjoyed your treatment of Ramona's request for absolution in advance -- kind of like one of the scuzzballs on Law & Order asking for immunity from prosecution. So is the deity like the DA or what?
Don't mean to obsess but am I the only one whose antennae tingled when Gabino and Ingrid concluded on Tuesday that Alfonsina was standing between them (i.e. Gael) and a share of the Arango fortune? I expect at least an attempt on Alfie's life (maybe another little jobbie-pooh for Horacio, the loveable Hitman)...
Oh how I enjoy reading the recaps and the commentary that follows.
As much as I HATE the "love" angle between Cat Food and Kenia, I really hate the angle between Horacio and Lolita. It seems a bit absent in the past few episodes so I really hope it peters out. Please someone "out" him as the murderer of Sweet Blanca before Dulce Lolita really gets hurt.
Being dense like I am and completely incapable of figuring out where TNs are gonna go, I didn't even bat an eye when Gab mentioned Alf getting in the way. Now that it's pointed out to me I also vote "Kill her!" (or at least try to.)
Vivi in DC - Gah, if Dallas was your class on U.S. culture. Sort of like telenovelas being our class on Latino culture, eh? ;-P
Ramona doesn't seem too happy about Gael & Paloma as an item. Never has. It makes me wonder who is Paloma's father. We've guessed it's Gabino, and we're pretty sure he is responsible for the death of P's mother, but . . . could it be Rosendo?
Maybe Paolo should have shown up at Carmina's, wearing a 'wife-beater' undershirt, and yelling "STELLA!" ... er... "CARMINA!"
from the street.
Dallas was great! Same theme song, similar opening credits. When JR woke up after hearing his son whine about Bobby selling Southfork, the show was on and poppin'! (JR's been in an unresponsive state for the past 10-12 years in a nursing home)
I saw bits and pieces of Abismo during the DALLAS commercial breaks. I did get to see Elisa slap Flor, and Ramona tell Augusto he's gonna feel like crap once it all comes out but that's about it.
I feel like the story needs to pick up and something needs to happen. Right now everything is at a stand still.
Dallas and Mr. Rogers are the only two shows I remember from that time when we first came to the U.S. The two shows could not be a more different intro to U.S. culture, and I loved them both. :)
Doris: IRT Paloma's paternity--hmmm, something to think about. And I love your re-writing of the scene. Wife beater and CARMINA! would have been a hoot!
Marta, I have been thinking and now I am really worried about Ramona. Man, Carmina better leave her alone. I LOVE RAMONA, even if she does sound a bit like the Yucatan version of the Delphic oracle.
Vivi, ITA that Gael and Damian should have figured out that they are brothers. Honestly, Elisa is stoopid but the writers are doing Dam no favors here either. Maybe if the boys start talking again they will reach the obvious conclusion.
This fake separation of Dam/Elisa is so absurd. They haven't even talked since their almost marriage.
EJ
I am so knocked out by your mad Spanish language skills.
You got THIS MUCH LANGUAGE DETAIL in real time, no rewind?
Elna June bows and fans Marta Ivette. (May I offer you a frozen grape m'dear? A pillow for you back as you recap?)
Aren't we so lucky so have people who are so dedicated and good at our little telenovela hobby? Wow!
I am so glad for each and every member of our recapping teams.
My fervent wish...One day, may my Spanish be half as good as yours Marta. Are you all in a hotel on the way to Florida?
Take care in your move, dear.
EJ
EJ
finishing up my CS'93 dialogues translation to english, have 3 eps (out of 80) worth to do left.
as far as the hotel, we have been at hotel since the 1st of the month so we could get all the furniture out of the house, replace the carpet and clean it to sell it. so will stay in area hotel until the wknd before July 4. then will drive to FL for good. hopefully.
one daughter in japan until the 26th so now have a little bit more space in hotel room.
My relatives in Ireland thought that we lived like the Ewings here in the US. How disappointed they were to find that our family 'spread' (a California 3/2) did not even remotely resemble a Texas palace. Southfork, was it?
Wow. What an intro to American culture!
EJ
Later in life, I recommended it to my adult ESL students because everyone talked slowly and clearly.
UA - I hope Elisa is finally fighting back but you know TNs - one day the hero/heroine has a spine that next day, its gone.
The double slap was great!!
NM and Sylvia - yes, II and Gab seem to be planning a murder. But as Marta noted, Fina can't die quickly. She's pulled SO MUCH CRAP she has to see how evil she has been. And the whole town needs to find out as well. Being shunned by everyone would be appropriate along with Dam cutting off contact.
Anon207 and Vivi - thanks for mentioning Dallas I forgot it was on but thankfully TNT plays stuff many times.
The biggest shame for Fina would be to find out that her irrational hate for Estefania has no basis in fact. Her holier-than-thou act would not carry much weight after that.
I suspect Paloma's mom probably threw herself at Gabino, too.
Ramona knows that Gael is a stand up, good guy but ever since she's known him as a child, he's only had eyes for Elisa. She may be afraid that since Paloma threw herself sexually at Gael, that THIS may be the reason Gael is coming around to Paloma, not because he truly likes her.
ITA, especially it would put all her schemes, isolating Dam, lies, buying people off to keep them from talking... all pop out to the surface, where she could no longer use the 'yeah i haven't been the cleanest player (tactics wise) but compared to that slut Estefania, it is nothing'.
Anon, i also think Ramona is afraid Gael is giving himself a chance with Paloma out of spite for having had Dam take Elisa from him, and that in the end Gael/Paloma would just not work out and Paloma would be the one hurt by all this.
So yes, Blue Lass, too soon to be bidding on the clothes. (Though put me down for the jewelry and accessories. BTW, does anyone know how to sew in elastic panels?)
I believe in Magic ... Realism. So I think Ramona is yes, intuitive and smart but also KNOWS how things will go even if she is powerless to stop them.
I believe this is a novela in the classic tragic form in which everyone suffers for years. Instead of calling it "The Passion Pit", we could call it "This Vale of Tears."
Having said that, I think Ramona KNOWS that Gael is going to ditch Paloma when Elisa shifts her cleavage in his direction.
I also think that Dam Stoopid is going to marry his mother, that is, Florencia.
That is, I can see the Gael/Elisa and Dam/Flor couplings as a repeat of their parents' history.
The Orange One? She might be unmasked but continue to hover and do evil.
Disclaimer: I am almost always wrong. I have a very very bad track record at predicting novela plots. I'm much better at plotzing over novelas.
well, the idea is still same... you stretch the elastic panel and sew it in stretched out to the normal laid out fabric, so when you release the two sewn together, the elastic panel shrinks back in and whala!! you have a 'stretch' hem/panel/section.
if you really want to be fancy you can unsew the fold in the fabric and sew the stretched out panel inside of it... a little more troublesome.
Alfie is so darn smug........ I HATE smug!
Someone needs to snap up Alfie’s best friend, Guido. He is certainly a breath of fresh air in La Ermita and doesn’t seem to mind the company of a “woman of a certain age!” (Please note that I didn't use that horrible word cougar!)
Marta, you might be the most useful person on the planet! WOW!
I have dibs on Guido.
Marta is also an excellent cook, so clearly she IS the most useful person on the planet.
I believe Sister Alfonsina could dedicate herself to the stylistic improvements of the various orders of nuns in the church. Just think of the contributions she could make! With her impeccable sense of style, perhaps she could make thousands of teaching sisters cool again! I'll just bet The Magdalene was a good dresser. She is so imperious, what abbess or head of order would dare turn her down?
Alright, kids, I am starting the reform Alfie table. Anyone who can dress that well in the heat of the Yucatan must have great strength of character. We know her grudge-holding skills are peerless. If folks can believe in Augusto then there is hope for Alfie.
But only if she gives away her clothes and jewels.
EJ
What kind of drinks are you serving?
EJ, part A of the plan is brilliant (you know, where BL & NM get all the stuff) but Part B not so much. Alfie doesn't cleanse her sins through suffering if she still gets to boss around a bunch of nuns. (And lord help the nuns!) Manipulation and control are heaven to her and hell to those who are her puppets.
Figure out a way for Alfie to be HUMBLED, for her to acknowledge that those humanoid props around her are actually OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, and then we can talk tables.
But what kind of drinks ARE you serving?
As for clothing: I am in love with the stylings of Marcaria and Marianna Karr on Amorcito.
Your logic is irrefutable. Sigh. But the chance to live out a childhood fantasy through the MOST efficient Black Widow gave me an unnatural enthusiasm for the project.
I stand corrected but disappointed. Alas, how sad,
the nuns will have to continue in their sensible shoes.
I was thinking Mojitos. My daughters have got me started on them and I am all but addicted to the flavor combo. You know the nuns need the help, Sandy, seriously.
EJ
Yes, it is true. I want to boss the nuns around. I want them to have pedicures. I want them to have habits that are cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
There I have said it. Can you tell my Barbie had a lot of habits created for her in the Swingin' Sixties?
EJ
Yes, it is true. I want to boss the nuns around. I want them to have pedicures. I want them to have habits that are cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
There I have said it. Can you tell my Barbie had a lot of habits created for her in the Swingin' Sixties?
EJ
Yes, it is true. I want to boss the nuns around. I want them to have pedicures. I want them to have habits that are cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
There I have said it. Can you tell my Barbie had a lot of habits created for her in the Swingin' Sixties?
EJ
And darnit, bilingual, speed typist, able to function from the hotel without committing homicide or suicide after days and days lodged there-- Getting a house ready for sale and able to sew, alter clothes, and cook up a mess of fabulous food. You're the perfect mujer! Hope your family appreciates you. I know we sure do.
Like others I was a fan of the double slap (BIG FAN) and was quite taken with Gael and Paloma. So tender. So sweet. I WANT THIS TO WORK. And I loved how he did his Big Brother thingee and defended Kenia (even if she didn't want it, the idiota). At first I didn't go for the plaid shirts, hairy chin and straw hat, but I am totally smitten now. Gael Gael Gael!
Thanks Marta. And I hope you get a whopping big price for the house you're selling and live happily ever after in Florida. You deserve the best.
OK, into the wine here, it is 5:48PM Central and have had a busy day cooking my own “surprise” birthday dinner!!!!
Marta, ditto JudyB on your house!
I would be OK with Fina doomed to spend her days in a convent as long as she had to take a vow of silence. With her lack of facial expressions she would be well and truly screwed.
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