Thursday, August 02, 2012

Refugio Para el Amor #84 Thu 8/2/12 Rosa's Chickens Have Come Home To Roost!

In order to keep the flow of this capitulo things are not in order. I wanted to keep the different parts together in order for it to flow better.

Het Het:

We are starting in Het Het tonight. The Lady has come about Luci's ceramics. She offers Luci an economic scholarship to go to school for her ceramics an artist's college, I think. Luci is very surprised. The Lady also wants Luci to work for them. The Lady gives Luci a magazine with pictures of different ceramics in it, with different artists and she asks Luci if she recognizes anything. Luci's ceramics are in this magazine! Luci is wondering how they got in this magazine as she never entered a contest for them. The Lady asks if she remembers the woman that traveled on the bus with her and Ariche, when Luci went to sell her ceramics in another town? (Ed Note: Remember when Don A basically shut down Luci in Het Het from selling her ceramics? She went to the next town over) Luci remembers Marcella the lady she met on the bus. Luci also remembers she left her box of ceramics on the street when Don A kidnapped her. Ariche remembers that when the police took him back to Het Het, after the kidnapping, Marcella picked up that box of ceramics. Evidently, Marcella got them to someone and they ended up on display in New York! Luci is flabbergasted, to say the least, and wants to know how she got credited with her ceramics? The lady says there was some type of note/paper with her name on them and that's how they knew they were Luci's and that's how they were credited. Luci is wowed by that. The Lady wants her to sign a contract with them for work, and Luci asks Ariche what he thinks. Ariche wants to see the contract. Ariche looks it over and says Acepto! We accept, lol.

The Lady has left and Luci is smiling. Magda and Paz have come back from shopping, (Ed Note: I am really loving Paz's shawl here, it is a wonderful shade of pink), Luci tells Paz and Magda she wants to go to the funeria to use the phone, she is worried. Magda says it's about the Lic. isn't it? She says yes, he wanted to talk to Rosa, and Luci wants to know how it went.

Ariche is at the funeria, which I will be calling Don Copio's, and is playing his flute when the Chisme Ladies come in and want to pump Ariche for info. Don C comes in and tells them to stop with the gossip,especially trying to get chisme out of a child, for goodness sake. The phone rings and Don C answers and its, wait for it, Pato. He wants to speak with Luci. Don C isn't sure who Pato is, but Ariche hears and takes the phone from Don C. Ariche calls Pato, Mushashon, and talks to him. Tells him he is happy to speak with him. Don C and the Chisme Ladies are listening in, but get no info other than the name Pato. Ariche hangs up and then goes, and the Chisme Ladies are trying to figure out who Pato is, one things it is Luci's husband, the other says, no it is Rodrigo, sigh! lol. For the sake of continuity I am adding that after Pato hangs up he tells Mati, who had been holding the phone, to put the cell phone by his good hand. He is expecting Luci to call him back. He tells Mati he is very happy to be talking to Ariche and to Luci when she calls back. The plan is Pato is going to be going on a trip close to Het Het, stopping by to see Luci and Mati is in on it. He makes her swear she will never tell anyone. She swears. He thanks her and tells her he loves her and she goes.

Luci is still at home and Paz wants to know if she is thinking of Claudio and Aurora. Paz tells her they were always wonderful people and with money too. Luci doesn't care about that. She is starting to tell Paz about the Lady that came to visit with the ceramics, but Ariche comes and tells her he talked to Mushashon, at first Luci thinks it was DEAD TO ME, but Ariche says no the other one in the chair, my friend. Luci says oh Pato, I hope everything is ok with him. Ariche tells her to come on, cause Pato is expecting her to call back. They go and Paz is wondering why Pato is calling and Magda says don't worry he is a nice boy and cares about her.

Luci and Ariche go to Don C's and the Chisme Ladies are still there. The Chisme Ladies pretend they want to use the phone too, but will wait until Luci is done. Don C tells them, he is sure Luci wants to speak in private, he grabs the Chisme Ladies' arms and physically escorts them out, lol. Don C comes back, just as the phone is ringing and Don C answers, it is Pato of course. He hands the phone to Luci and she talks to Pato. She wants to know how he is. He says he is fine, but is worried about her. Luci says little by little she is getting her life back. Pato tells her if she needs anything to let him know, you know money, anything at all. She thanks him and tells him she has everything she needs. Pato tells her that he will be close to her soon, traveling for the Foundation for underprivelged children, I think, and Luci tells him not to give up his therapy. He says there are two very important things in his life, his therapy and her. She smiles.

It is now nighttime in Het Het and Luci still hasn't heard from Claudio. She is very worried, about what went down with Claudio and Rosa. Magda says she hopes that Rosa ends up in la carcel (the jail). Paz says no, no, she doesn't want that. She just wanted the truth to be told. Luci informs Magda and Paz that Max perpertrated a fraud on Claudio and he spent twenty years in jail for it. They are both shocked!

Mexico City: The Cemetary:

We have now come to the confrontation between Rosa la Loca and Claudio. Rosa is staring down at Aurora's grave and Claudio sneaks up behind her, grabs her arm and tells her now is the time for the truth,and nothing but the truth. She gets the scared look on her face. Rosa says you want the truth? Claudio says yes, he wants the truth, he tells Rosa his daughter isn't dead, she is alive and , wait for it, she is Luciana! Claudio is very pithed, drops his cane, right on the ground, grabs some dirt from the grave, letting it slowly sift through his fingers and says Aurora may be dead, but Luciana is very much alive. Rosa in true scared out of her mind mode, admits that yes, Luciana is your hija. Claudio wants to know why Rosa lied? Rosa tells him that yes, the baby is Luci, Aurora died, he was in prison, what was she supposed to do with the baby? Claudio tells her that breaking her promise to Aurora was bad enough, to take care of the baby as her own, but what she did to Luci was far worse. Rosa tries to tell him that this is the cross she has had to bear all these years, as if, but Aurora was a liar too! Claudio is so not having that, and tells Rosa she better have something to back that up. Rosa says Aurora was my BFF, so beautiful, and wonderful, but in reality she was a damn liar! Claudio says that Rosa is the liar. Claudio says his wife Aurora was a wonderful woman, full of compassion and love, and went he was sent to prison, that's all he thought about and he couldn't wait to get out of the carcel to be with Aurora again. Rosa tries to tell him that Aurora had no compassion for anyone or anything. Claudio wants to know why Rosa hated Aurora so much? Rosa is now trying to tell Claudio that both of them were "victims" of Aurora. She saw Max and Aurora with her own eyes! Rosa goes on to say your dear departed wife and my husband were, wait for it, y'all already know where this is going, LOVERS!!! Claudio is shocked, and looks away to catch his breath.

We interrupted this confrontation with a song from the seventies called, Smiling Faces by the Undisputed Truth:

Smiling faces, sometimes, pretend to be your friend

Smiling faces show no traces, of the evil that lurks within

Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes, they don't tell the truth

Smiling faces, smiling faces tells lies, and I got proof.

Beware, beware of the handshake that hides the snake

I'm a telling you, beware, beware of the pat on the back

It just might hold you back

Jealousy, misery, envy, I'm telling you can't see behind smiling faces

Now back to the confrontation. Claudio asks Rosa if she is sick? Rosa says she's not sick or crazy either and that Claudio just refuses to accept the truth. Rosa throws it in his face again about Max and Aurora being lovers. Claudio will not accept this, Aurora had intergirty and was a wonderful woman, Rosa says not so, she wasn't what you thought she was. Claudio says Rosa is lying. Claudio tells Rosa she is the bad woman. Rosa says oh, no she is good, protecting her children and her family. So Claudio says for this you gave baby Luci to Paz Jacinto? Rosa is shocked that he knows about that. Now Rosa is trying to put the blame for this on Paz. Claudio tells her not to go there, and the fault lies solely with Rosa. Now Rosa is refusing to look at Claudio, she won't meet his eyes and is swiveling her head this way and that to avoid looking at him. Claudio tells Rosa that Paz had lots of heart and as for Rosa he wants her to get it through her head that she HAS NO HEART! Rosa is going on and on now about her integrity, her generousity, blah, blah, and Claudio says she has none of these things, just look what she did to Luci! Now Rosa is playing her wait for it, are you ready, as if, her trump card that Luci isn't even his. (Y'all know she was going to go there!) Of course now Rosa lays it on him that Luci, in Rosa's playground of a mind, is in fact the daughter of Max and Aurora! Claudio is about to lose it. Claudio says oh, no, Luci is mine, I know it. He says Aurora was never a cheat. Rosa says no she was. She says she hates Luci so much because of this and she has suffered all these years, oh please, and she has had to put up with her real Papa Max. Claudio yells at Rosa to Basta! Claudio again says Aurora was nothing like Rosa is saying. He tells her to Basta again. Rosa says she had a perfect family and life until Aurora interferred with it. Claudio says oh, poor you Rosa.Claudio tells her she has no love for anyone, much less her kids, and she grabs his arms and tells Claudio to open his eyes, he grabs her arms right back and tells her she perpertrated this false death of his daughter to protect the Torreslandas, to keep him calm and for him to never find out, exactly what she did. Rosa turns it around on Claudio again and tells him the carcel turned him into an animal. Claudio says no, due to Max he spent 20 years in the prison and he suffered and thought of revenge. Claudio tells her, now the Torreslandas future in his hands and what he and Aurora had Rosa only wishes she did. He tells Rosa she was always ambitious and a traitor. Rosa tells Claudio he is going down a treacherous path here. Claudio tells Rosa she will now pay the consequences of all she did, the desecration of the grave,the lying about Luci being dead, desecrating another grave to move the bones into Aurora's casket, all of which is illegal. Rosa wants to know what kind of proof Claudio has, he's got nothing. Claudio tells her sure I do. He come the cemetary guys right behind Claudio, the administrator and the caretaker of the graves, Claudio asks her if that is enough proof for her? She is shocked and backs away from them. Rosa says she doesn't understand about these men, who are they? (Note to Rosa: You can't pretend anymore, the jig is up, jus' sayin'). Claudio introduces the administrator who was in charge of the exhumation order, and Claudio starts to introduce the caretaker of the graves, who takes over from Claudio and says, yeah I moved the bones of the baby from one grave to another and I didn't want to but you convinced me. Rosa tries to play if off like they don't know her. The administrator pipes up and says, sure I know you, you are Senora Torreslanda.HA!, and you told me to hold up the exhumation order, Rosa says you sure about that? The administrator says sure, you paid me! Rosa calls them cowards and turns to Claudio and says so this is your "proof"? Claudio says you don't recognize them? Rosa says she had nothing to do with them. Claudio says something about the kids, I think hers, and she tells Claudio you touch my kids, I'll kill you. Claudio tells Rosa she is culpable of these crimes and he has enough proof to send her to la carcel for many years and she is not innocent as he was. So Rosa says sending me to prison, will that satisify you? Claudio says no, cause Luci doesn't want to see you in la carcel. (Remember revenge is a dish best served cold). Claudio tells her, thanks to Luci she will not be going to la carcel. Well, Rosa doesn't want to hear that, oh, noes. Rosa would prefer prison than to be indebted to Luci. She can't deal with that. Claudio smiles as Rosa has the manicomio look in her eyes. Rosa is screaming at Claudio and he tells her oh, poor you, now you will have to live with yourself, your culpability, your wretchedness and all you have done, forever! The cemetary administrator bends down and picks up Claudio's cane and gives it back to him. All three men turn their backs on Rosa and walk away. Rosa is left there, she kneels down at Aurora's grave, starts shrieking and howling and throwing dirt on Aurora's grave, and shrieks damn you, I hate you Aurora, screaming and crying and flinging dirt all over the place.

Rosa has gone back home, no makeup, looking drained. Mati and Conny are with her. Mati wants to know why Rosa confronted Claudio alone? Rosa says it had to be done. Conny tells her to get some rest. Both Conny and Mati are concerned. Rosa says she wanted to clear her house of rancor and the ghost of Aurora and now Claudio knows that Luci is his daughter! Meantime Frigid is using the Frigid method behind the door and is shocked and gasping by what she has just heard!

Torreslandia Business:

Max, Oscar, Rod, Gabe and Marcos are all meeting about the Claudio "problem". They are preparing their defenses against anything Claudio is bringing. Rod says not only does Claudio want to ruin our business, he wants to ruin us personally! Max agrees. So Max has divied up the duties of each guy and what they will do. Legally they have to provide paperwork, but only stuff from before, like twenty years ago and only the minimum of info from that era. Gabe says, it makes sense and us guys, Marcos, Gabe and Rod are not responsible cause they were kids at the time. Max agrees and Gabe is put in charge of the economic status of the companies, Marcos will be working with Oscar on the legalities of the businesses. Max says now you all know what to do. Gabe and Marcos leave the meeting and Rod, Oscar and Max are now left in the meeting. Max wants the video of Claudio going to the bank and wants Oscar to get it. They need to do some damage control. Oscar and Max and Rod have been at this for awhile now and Rod is pithed that Claudio is making all of this stuff up to try and ruin them. Just about this time Max gets a text from Vicky who is at the love nest. Max replies and then tosses the phone. Rod wants to know if it was important. Max says not.

The Love Nest:

Vicky has made it to the love nest, and is looking around for Max, she even looks in the bathroom, no Max though. She finally sees the card where he tells her off. She starts to cry, looks around, takes the card and writes on the back to please forgive her and she loves him. Still crying she looks around again, gathers her purse and leaves.

Gagme Lair:

Julie gets a call from Gagme in Bogata, Columbia. Julie tells her she is having a dinner with Carolla and is making something. Gagme says oh your enjoying your life huh? Julie says yeah, you are never here always working! Julie wants to know when Gagme is returning. Gagme tells her there are meetings tonight and then tomorrow the proposals for the business. Gagme also wants to know if anyone has called for her. Julie wants to know and who would that be? Gagme says DEAD TO ME of course. Julie says DEAD TO ME hasn't called, nothing from him. Gagme says she has been in touch with Valentina and nothing. Gagme mentions something about a birthday and an anniversary and says she is putting Julie in charge of that. Julie says no worries, leave it in my capable hands. If anyone knows who's birthday it is and what anniversary, please comment.

Torreslandia Home:

Mati is feeding Pato and Pato asks Mati why his Mama is still so anxious even though Luci is gone now. Mati passes it off as Rosa being anxious after Pato's health and that Rosa is most concerned about him, as if. Pato thinks she is just sick.

Pato is alone now, surfing the internet and is looking up what MRI's can tell about the brain,( I have to say here, Pato is doing the same research as Vivi did yesterday:).). Pato sees it can tell if there is inflammation on the brain, an infection or a chronic illness, or tumors. Then he sees, wait for it, mental illness and how the brain is affected by feelings and nervousness! Oh noes, thinks Pato!

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Comments:
Sorry this recap is up so late. So much conversation to process. Loved the confrontation with Claudio and Rosa la loca. Loved how he let her have it. His anger about all the Torreslandas have done finally comes out. I am really hoping he gets justice!

I am glad Vicky skeedaddled and didn't wait at the love nest. I am so glad she left. She needs to get a life, no more Max!

Love how fortune has smiled on Luci. I like the fact she was credited with her work, and it is so good they want her to work with them. Wonderful news!

Oh, and Pato called Luci not the other way around. I thought she was going to call him, but he ended up calling her back.
 

Mads- I'm up late and wired after watching the Olmypics. (Go Gabby!) What a treat to read your wonderful recap before bed.

Loved the confrontation in the cemetary! I believe Claudio taped their whole conversation. He pulled out his phone just when Rosa said he had no proof and the two guys popped out. So he has the whole crazy confession taped. Ha!

Gala was just telling Julie to make up some excuse to have a get together when she comes back, so that she and Rod can be in the same place. So pathetic.

I am so happy about Luci's win and grant. I don't think it's to study, but to be an artist under contract, but they are giving her money up front to make pieces for them. Very cool! Her pieces aren't in NY; it's the lady who she met on the bus who's there. She's also an artist. But if that other artist has opportunities to go to NY, surely Luci might have those same opportunities too. That would be exciting if Luci becomes some jet setting artist traveling to the States to present her pieces. Take THAT Julie, Rosa, Gala, and Frigida!

More in the morning.
 

And I can spell Olympics, but it's late. LOL!
 

GREAT EPISODE TODAY!
Just curious what's up with LASTRA? It's been a week since we've heard or seen him.
Then also Mr. Cerapio ~ They say he's sick. But I think they've just written him out the series entirely.
Marcel needs to buy himself a one-way ticket to HELL.
Unless of course he is a detective / police investigating LASTRA & MAXIMINO?

We shall see!
 

Loved the confrontation scene. Every time Rosa threw out one of her poison darts Claudio heaved it right back. It was clear from the conversation that the petty jealous streak that has been a Rosa vice from childhood obviously carried over to Aurora. The woman was obviously loved and admired and took attention away from Rosa. So it looks like while Max committed the fraud Rosa probably drove him to it to one up the other woman.Loved it when he told her she never had what he and Aurora did. The sad thing is that she probably could have because Max loved and still loves her but she threw it away hand over fist. So loved the look of horror on her face when he said the only reason she wasn't going to jail was because of Luci.

I let out a whoop, usually reserved for the Olympics (Yea Gabby) when Gagme discovered that the dumbass hasn't called. Guess her so obvious charms aren't working. So now let's see we are going to arrange a fake occasion to have another set up party where the gullible dolt will show up and she can try to shanghai him back into bed.

I am amused that Frigida races to phone every time she hears anything in the house. So now the botox bimbos know that Claudio knows about Luci but they still don't know if Luci knows the truth. Being as mercenary as they are I'm sure they can't imagine that she wont be hotfooting it back to the DF waiting to get her hands on an American Bxpress Black card

Am loving those previews showing DimRod finally having enough sense to ask some questions vis-a-vis Luci and Infierno. Too bad it is too little and way too late.Let the suffering begin.
 

Wonderful recap Madelaine! You had a lot of ranting and raving to get thru last night on behalf of us language-challenged observors. So grateful!!

Claudio was perfection last night! It was like he had a light saber to fight off every accusation Rosa tried to throw, it couldn't have been more perfect. She tried everything, and nothing worked. And of course, acting like someone with bi-polar and paranoia, it is all someone else's fault when her rationalizations aren't believed. Poor Luci, her inheritance from her mother--beauty and the jealousy and hatred of Rosa.

Can Pato be anymore our hero? Dumbass has a ways to go being he's invested in this whole "bring Linares down" plan. Boy, he will be one mess and fall big time when he realizes his father has lied, he tried to destroy Luci's father and he was played big time by the Three Witches. And I will enjoy every minute.

Ha, Gagme, little blow to the ego there? If they weren't so cruel, the way Gagme, Drunken momma and Lurch conspire and plan would be almost funny.

Now we know--Little Cupid--future lawyer or maybe a legal agent. I can see Claudio taking him under his wing. Kid has a future!
 

Wonderful thorough recap Madeleine. It's good to have you back with us. Last night was certainly dramatic. As intense an episode as the one two nights ago when Paz told both Linares and Luciana the truth. As I watch I keep thinking these poor actors must be exhausted and completely washed out at the end of the day.

On the birthday...anniversary that Gala mentioned..she just wanted anybody's birthday or anniversary to be dreamed up to have a pretext to get together and include Rodrigo. At least that's how I understood it.

I have a feeling the actor playing Don Serapio must be ill. Unless they've changed their minds about a potential romance with Paz and decided to write him out as Anonymous has suggested. This actor was fabulous in Gancho al Corazón so I was hoping to see more of him.

Again, thanks Madeleine. You put a lot of work in on this and we appreciate it.
 

Great work, Madelaine. What a delicious confrontation.

Max needs to call the manicomio ASAP before Rosa does any more damage. I wonder if he's ever heard this one?

I love how Claudio cornered Rosalena in the cemetery. She's had this one coming for years. Luci shouldn't be such a saint about her getting arrested, although I will acknowledge that this will make Rosa crazier.
 

Thank y'all for the great comments.

Vivi-thanks for the thingy about the grant. Now it makes more sense to me. I couldn't figure out why they wanted to give her a scholarship and work at the same time :). And thanks for the Gala thingy too. She never mentioned a name for the birthday/anniversary thing so wasn't sure if it was hers or nobodys. So she wants to snare DEAD TO ME some more. I hope he wakes up soon!

JudyB- I have the feeling the actor playing Don Serapio is ill too. He was there for the very first part and then disappeared. I like how Copio is taking his place though. I like how Copio has turned out.

Anon 2:06- We know Marcial is an undercover cop investigating Inferno. This was mentioned a couple weeks ago. How far his investigation has gone into Inferno and Lastra we don't know yet, or if he has even sniffed out that Max is involved.

DecieGirl- So with you as far as Frigid goes. She is always selling that info to Gagme and Julie. I hope she gets caught soon. We all know how Rosa is when she is betrayed! Can't wait for Frigid to get the piecart from Rosa. Also was waiting for Claudio to throw Rosa in the grave, as you mentioned yesterday, lol. But now she has to live with the fact that Luci is the one keeping her out of the carcel.

Daisynjay- Loving little cupid too. He is the sweetest child I have ever seen on a TN. I love how he protects Luci, even from people ten times his size.

UA-so funny. I've heard this song before. It so perfectly suits Rosa lol. They should be taking her away to the funny farm.
 

Oh and OT- so with you all about Gabby, YAY. She is awesome. I was typing the recap and watching her at the same time. :)
 

Sorry i diden't like this episode that much. Not enough Rod scenes at all. Glad Luci is moving on.
 

Smashing recap, especially the show down between fact and fantasy with Claudio and looney tunes.

I have reached the conclusion that Rod is the best (or worst, there is no distinction) of Max and Rosa Torres. He might be "perty" to the ladies but you have to hit him with a shovel to get his brain to work.

Surmise also that Patricio and Jana are adopted. The don't seem to have any of the hideous qualities of MaxaRosa.

Between the two, Sin from Podia looks tame compared to Rosa Torres.
 

Last night's espisode was awesome (although more Rod would have been appreciated!).

Did anyone else notice that Luci seemed disappointed when she found out it was Pato rather than Rod calling (although very happy to talk to Pato)? Also, when Pato said he could combine the two important things - his therapy & her, the look on Luci's face seemed to indidcate a lightbulb going off. It seemed to me that she had a moment of realization about Pato's true feelings for her. Hmmm
 

NoelGirl- I also noticed that moment of uh oh on Luci's face when Pato said that. I think she is starting to get what he really feels for her.
 

NoleGirl, ITA that Luci realized that Pato's feelings for her are way beyond 'brotherly', just like Rod has realized lately as well.
LOVED Brandon Peniche's subtle acting when he was reading the info online about the MRI and he got to the mental issues and anxiety diagnosis... BP rocks!

i have been thinking the Gala/Julie relationship and Julie's influence on Gala seems to be similar but not as extreme as the Fina/Roberta relationship in CME. ... even same actress on the young side. But i think Fina had more influence in shaping Roberta's behavior than Julie has had here with Gala. I see Roberta more as the victim of her mother's influence here, Gala is not as ambitious (or maybe it is because she has her own job and income so it is not THAT important to her, the one that keeps bringing up the money issue about the TL bottomless money pit prize is Julie)... Gala seems to be as much about not letting Luci win NimRod from her and less about the money. Gala is the more subtle but persistent villain. She has schemed against Luci but what drives her is pride more than ambition, very much like the character of Angelina in Luz Maria.
 

The previews for tonight are VERY encouraging, although i agree that if it took Rod this much time to want to investigate/hear more about what really happened at the antro, it is way too little and way way way too late. I wonder what is it that makes him go run around to get the info. Maybe he overhears his mother say something at the house?
 

ITA Marta about Gala/Julie and the CME comparison. That was one sick relationship. But Gala has always been about the pride and not losing, while Julie has been about the pesos.
 

During the verbal match between Rosa and Claudio at the grave, Rosa said to Claudio 'get a DNA test' and you will find out that Luciana is not your daughter. Claudio is so certain that Aurora was faithful to him he just blows off Rosa's suggestion. She may be totally loca but if I were Claudio I would have the test just to sink Rosa's fantasy.
 

I agree. Claudio needs to burst that bubble and Max needs to pick up the pieces and send them to the funny farm.
 

Oh, did anyone catch how Copio answered the phone at the funeral parlor: "Die now, pay later"?
 

Anon 11:33- I think you are right. Claudio is really smart and I think he will do the DNA eventually. I'm glad he didn't beleive Rosa's lies. He knew his wife Aurora better than anyone. He knew she was not the type of woman to have an affair. If they keep lying to Claudio I think he will do it, just for the proof he needs.

Vivi, I forgot to thank you for the recording that Claudio did of Rosa's confession, along with what the two cemetary men said too. I knew he did it, but was tired when I wrote the recap and left it out.

NoleGirl, Vivi and Marta with you all about the moment that Luci realizes that Pato is feeling more for her than she thought. She was disappointed that DEAD TO ME, wasn't the one that was calling her.

In the advances, I agree Marta, that it is way, way, too late for DEAD TO ME to go looking for answers. He should have done this the same day, or let Luci explain herself already. What a jerk. I wonder what sets him on this path now?

Gagme and Julie's relationship is a strange one to me. They are almost like BFF's and not mother and daughter. Yes, Julie is all about the money and Gagme about possession is like nine tenths of the law. She thinks she owns DEAD TO ME, I think she knows deep down though, if DEAD TO ME, finds out they exaggerated the truth, and stretched it, they are cooked. I think that is why everytime Luci is mentioned, Gagme freaks out. She just knows that if Luci told DEAD TO ME, your forgiven, I want you back, he would go running. That is Gagme's biggest fear, she really can't compete except for the constant lies.
 

Urban- Yeah, I laughed at that. He even change his voice to sound somber as he said the line. LOL!

Judy- The Don Serapio actor was so good as Don Cesar in Gancho. I will forever remember him in that role. I am guessing he is ill. I read that he was at death's door last year with some pretty serious health issues, so I wouldn't be surprised. They still have his name listed in the credits and keep talking about his character, so I think they are hoping he will be well enough again to come back to the role.

I am starting to warm to a Claudio/Paz hook-up, but I think the two of them are too hung up on their deceased spouses to start up something with anyone. I think they make a great joint parental unit for Luci though.

Can I just say how much Pato rose in my eyes when he actually used modern technology (an internet search) to better understand what might be going on with his mom. I research EVERYTHING. Always have. If I have a question about something, anything, I'm going to look it up. Before internet, when I was a kid, I was constantly searching through my encyclopedias. Before Google, I was always on Ask Jeeves (anyone remember that one?). Pato is my ideal man. *Sigh*
 

UA- our comments crossed lol. Oh, I didn't catch that about Copio, lol. He is really a hoot.
 

The thing is, I don't think Rosa would drop her delusions, even if Claudio waved a DNA test in her face. She's the only one who doubts Luci's paternity. Max doesn't. Claudio doesn't. Paz doesn't. So why should they take a test? I'm glad that Claudio is so certain of his wife (ahem, ROD!), that nothing can shake that or make him question her.
 

Vivi- you are one heck of a researcher. I am like that too, when I take the time. I remember Ask Jeeves, he was that cute butler, lol. Then came Google which I love, but Bing is good too. Thanks for the research though. I know you have done it for many TN's especially El Tal and the avacadoes, lol. :)
 

I hope they don't go that whole DNA thing. I think it was in Familia where someone bribed the lab technician to change the DNA results. I can see Rosa getting out the checkbook for that one too.
 

Martavett - I totally agree with you about how subtle Brandon Peniche is. He has definitely inherited his father's talent. A couple of years ago i saw them in a novela together and was dying to see a scene between them but it didn't happen. That would have been something to see.

Vivi - another heavy duty researcher here as well. I can remember being a child and sitting on the hall floor where we had a book case with several sets of encyclopedias being lost looking things up. One Christmas I even got a three volume set of my own which i still have. Google, Bing and Jeeves are great and fast but leafing through books always seemed to stretch my search into different area then what brought me there in the first place. I think the love of research is also partially responsible for me eventually becoming a writer, and I still love research.

I don't think we have to worry about Claudio going the DNA route. He knew Aurora and he also had a pretty good handle on Rosa even back in the day. Were he to go for the test I think he would feel he was betraying Aurora and I don't think Max would lie to him about Luci either. Max admired Aurora and he wouldn't smear her like La Loca.

Yep look like Luci had a lightbulb moment and yes i though she was disappointed as well when she realized Patp was on the phone. The poor girl is destined to have many more disappointments as we move forward. Wouldn't be a novela if she didn't.
 

Decie Girl- ITA. Nothing beats books. I was a student librarian in high school, and did my work study in the library in college. Needless to say, I spent a LOT of time thumbing through books and learning new and interesting things.
 

I think, besides talking her off saying he and his wife loved each other and he would not believe it for a second (that Luci is Max's kid), Claudio did dare Rosa... he basically responded 'go ahead, make my day. that way you and everyone else will clear up their doubts and you will feel even worse for having hated them for no reason at all and she (Rosa) will REALLY look bad in her children's eyes for having acted so nasty to people who did not deserve it.
 

You're right he did daer Rosa. The greatest fear in her life is that her children learn of her terrible sins. She has mentioned it so she is really walking on the knife edge now. She already has a hint of what could happen when DimRod got so annoyed with her over the Luci interrogation (odd that he never gave the girl a chance but was still ticked at Mama).

Max has warned her multiple times not to meddle in Rod's life or risk losing him forever. She somehow always manage to ignore anyone giving her solid advice.

I hope that when the kids do learn all the things she has done that they do turn their backs on her. That seems to be the only punishment that she fears. As the title sasys Rosa's chickens are coming home to roost.
 

A BIG thank you Madelaine. If I had missed the English recap of last nights confrontation, I think that I would be headed for the same asylum as Rosa.

GREAT acting by the actress that plays Rosa Loca. She had the look of crazed terror in her eyes.

Decie Girl--- botox bimbos---that's great. I wondered why mother Julie does not look older than her daughter.

Also, I noticed that Gagme calls her mom Julie, not mom, mama, mommy or mother. Strange?

UA---thanks for the song. I remember it from a long time ago but had forgotten about it. The song fits.

Kelly---Your suggestion for endorsments a couple of days ago was hilarious. Rod for some brand of tequila--Julie for Oil of Olay--Valentina for some brand of cookies and Rosa for Prozac.
the gringo
 

gringo: gala doesn't call julie mom because she asked her not to, she just calls her by her first name. what a mom huh?

ITA about rosa not believing the DNA test if it wasn't what she wanted to hear. I seriously don't think you can even beat the truth into her. I think that's what drives me so crazy about rosa (aside from her evil deeds), I could shake her all I want & she's still just going to see things her way.

jlk
 

Thanks so much Madeleine for wonderful coverage of a very dramatic episode. Oh - Linares sure had Rosa quaking in her boots. How quickly Linares grasped the extent of Rosa's evil, and he got an explicit display of it last night.

Rosa thinks she can justify any horrible, damaging, outrageous action as "saving her family", but when left alone she cries out the true reason: her extreme irrational hatred of Aurora which she seamlessly transferred to Aurora's reincarnation Luciana.

Linares doesn't need no stinkin' DNA test! The "llama de sangre" doesn't lie!!!!!
 

Thank you for the recaps guys. Now I want true karma for Botox Frigida.Just losing her job is not enough for me.I want her to cry and let her tears roll down and erase all the plastics on her face and down on her knees and to kiss the feet of Luciana. As for Gagme, I want her to be found out by everybody that she is a bastard of an unknown father. Her birth certificate should be published in her magazine stating for father as "unknown".As for Rosa la loca, just her always feeling guilty shows that she is not insane when she commited these crimes so she cannot use the insanity plea. so off with her head or solitary confinement for her too.
 

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