Caray, Caray!

Late night at work. I didn't have time to do my regular re-checking so please forgive any typos.

I hope I got all the names right!
 

Great work Paquita. Not many typos at all. I loved your imagery, like Gussy's lavender tears and Miriam's cushioned anvil.

In addition to now suspecting that everyone was right about Dio's fake identities, Gussy should also now start suspecting his feelings for Cam after that weird outburst at the dining table.

Carlos- Remember when you pointed out that one of the ladies in the love triangle is "inconvenient" and I said maybe Dan is the inconvenient one? Well, the previews show Miriam telling him she doesn't want him if he's only going to halfass be with her, her and Cam telling him she doesn't want him around, and Dan getting cut by one of those dangerous infected bull blood vials. I'd say Dan is looking awfully inconvenient right now...

Timeframe alert-- Miriam told the doctor the baby is three months old.
 

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Thank you Paquita! Great recap!

This seems to be the season of deception and unhappy relationships.

Aggie/Dio--- Hector G. Conman
Nat/Yago--- Dirty dog who might give mob princess an STD
Mir/Dan --- Had another wife, still in love w/ wife 2
Isa/Cayo--- Married a snake woman who may kill him for his $$
Vivi/Rafa--- V kept Roman a secret, seems ok w/ not having Rafa around

Dan/Cam are unhappy, but at least there's no deception between them.

Mir is quite fiesty. This should be a sign that she can handle some truths. Sad situation, because as far as she knows, Dan was passionately in love with her and so excited about the her having a baby. Then she woke up the next day, with prized baby in hand, and suddenly her husband is in a different country and seems to be a different man. She must be in shock. They need to at least be leaking her the truth.

The Cam/Dan story intrigues me because I don't really like stories thst include marital affairs where those in the affair are the protagonists. In this case, Dan was married to both, at different times. It must be hard to keep a commitment to your past wife who thinks that she is your present wife, and then have to leave your present wife out in the cold and open to the affection of another man. Painful!

Quick note about clothing: yesPaquita, I too wondered about Daniel's quick/superman wardrobe change! Maybe they cut a scene. I like the reference to the white truck as riding in on his white horse. Now Isa ... I guess she had to wear those diamonds to bed to serve as her wedding night aphrodisiac and headache reliever.
 

I think you did, Paquita; good work.

I agree with Vivi; that outburst at the breakfast table should make Gussie suspicious about something. Any other woman would wonder why El Diablo is so obsessed about this.

Everyone else should be wondering how this virus made a comeback after it was previously eradicated.

Netgirl, that's a great one about Hissadora and the diamonds! She must be taking Marilyn Monroe's advice...

Your point about Miriam being feisty should also be a clue to somebody that she isn't as sick as Daniel's been told.

The wardrobe change is proof enough of where Daniel would rather be.
 

Thank you, Paquita. You captured an exciting episode so very well. I had to chuckle at quite a few of your descriptions, including Isadora and Cayetano on their honeymoon. Good God!

Daniel and the traje. Wow. He did look great in that blue number.

Yago is beyond redemption and may be living on borrowed time.

I expect that we will see some nice scenes between Luzma and Rocio coming up.

And, Dio just can't find a way to be the helper when there are so many people with purer hearts assisting Camila. I loved it when he volunteered to ride all over the place looking for the vaccine, only to have Pablo suggest that logging on is the key!
 

I don't think the issue is whether or not Mir can get fiesty. It's not her personality that's the marker of whether or not she can receive bad/shocking/upsetting news. The (supposed) aneurism is a silent killer, not something that would change her personality. I think we and Dan can expect her to get stronger and more like her old self the more time passes since she's been out of the coma and the stronger she gets physically. But the stronger she gets, the more assertive she gets about getting answers about why Dan and everyone are acting so strange.
 

Netgirl said: "Nat/Yago--- Dirty dog who might give mob princess an STD"

I say this is wishful thinking on your part (because you dislike this couple maybe)? If there is any indication that Yago has slept with anyone who has an STD I missed it.

 

Traveling lady: I sure hope you are right when you say “I expect that we will see some nice scenes between Luzma and Rocio coming up”. I was thinking that perhaps the writers have conjured up a situation to give us more of Rocio’s bad side. I think we have that picture and are ready to move on to a converted Rocio.

Vivi: this comment shows your lack of medical knowledge: “The (supposed) aneurism is a silent killer, not something that would change her personality”.
Anything that affects the brain (tumor, aneurism etc), will definitely affect behavior. In fact, a change in behavior is commonly the first sign that people get that something is wrong.

 

Dear Anon 8:36. I meant that Yago seems to be developong, or already had, a habit of sleeping around. Perhaps I'm shooting at him prematurely. I was surprised that he hooked up with a stranger(?) within minutes of meeting her on the street during the day. If this becomes a habit, it could lead to all kinds of unhealthy actions. Yago has a very idk attitude. Nat is pregnant now, indicating no protection. Protection with this one? Not likely. Others to come? Looks like danger ahead.
 

Thank you Paquita, excellent recap as usual; love this “Poor Aggies cries her lavender tears.” I don’t know why, but you had all cracked up with this one.

WOW, Anonymous, you sure are schooling everyone today!!!!

I prayed that Dio would have an aneurism bursting and just drop dead during his temper tantrum – this guy just rubs me the wrong way. Thank God, Gussie showed some spine there.

I know we all hate Yago, but one thing is for sure; he’s been consistent in his “douchebagery”; he never once said he was a prince charming on the contrary – it’s been Natonta who’s been hell bent on asserting that title on the miserable louse. I’m tired of her blind stupidity.

Myo-

 

Unfortunately, most aneurisms do not signal their presence before a catastrophic failure - stroke or cerebral hemorrage. It is indeed true that, if the swelling puts pressure on the "wrong" parts of the brain, personality changes or "minor" physical impairments can provide warnings that can trigger investigations that lead to diagnosis. Too often, however, the aneurism is asymptomatic. In those cases, unless a scan is ordered for some unrelated reason, the first symptom is likely to be the last.
 

Thank you Paquita. Great action! I loved the "lavender eyes"

And I see how Dion has reiterated the eternal theme: 'Dion (huffing and puffing):  “Fine.  But if there’s anything you need, you can Cuenta conmigo!” '

So maybe the padre's heavy-handed sermonizing wasn't out of line after all. Rocio's attitude adjustment is remarkable.

Not sure why Dan wasted precious minutes changing into his charro gear, but it sure made him look more manly than those schlumpy dorm clothes he's been sporting since his breakup with Cam. At least it made him stand up straight.

As for Yago and the STD; I thought it an entirely appropriate comment. He's a promiscuous creep and if he's not taking care about unwanted pregnancy, you can be sure he's careless about everything else. —Agnes
 

Thanks for the recap Paquita.

Dio's obsession will be the end of him. If the poor bulls do die and Cam sells to him, she won't be his unless he kidnaps her. I hope she doesn't get snatched again. I'm with those of you who just want the anvil to take him out NOW.

Myo - ITA about Natonta. I feel for Amanda having to smile as her completely deluded daughter talks well of two of the worst men on the show.

If Dio catches Iago playing around, Iago might be toast.
 

Totally appropriate, LXV.

If Iagho thinks he can get away with cheating on Nat, he's got another thing coming. If Hissadora can cut out Leoncerdo's tongue what's to prevent El Diablo from making sure that Iagho qualifies for the Gelding's Trot?

That might actually be amusing.
as to El Diablo's obsession with Camila, the only thing that would make her want him is a frontal lobotomy.

 

Re: aneurysm. It doesn't matter how an aneurysm affects the brain in real life. What matters here is that Miriam doesn't really have an aneurysm. The unscrupulous doctor fibbed about that and then went on to warn Dan that "any anxiety or bad news" could kill her.
 

Oopsie...didn't finish my comment. Miriam handled the whole Agatha episode without keeling over. We see in the avances that she goes off on Dan. Slowly, they're going to realize that feisty Miriam isn't kickin' the bucket whenever time she is upset.
 

Paquita,

"Poor Aggie cries her lavender tears."

Perfection.

Vivi,

Your take on aneurysms is spot on.

As for inconvenient:

"...keep Agatha hydrated and keep her away from contaminants and keep her away from anyone who may be ill, or any virus that she might be able to contract."

No need for bar graphs and hand puppets there.

Carlos


 

They wouldn't kill a baby, would they? I mean it would solve some problems with getting the right couples together, but she's a baby! Has that ever been done?

But it is nice to see Miriam get mad. She's not all pollyanna. Good.

Kelly
 

Kelly, I can't recall a single novela in which anyone murdered an infant.

An 8-year-old child was murdered in Abrazame Muy Fuerte (currently airing mornings on UniMas) but that is the only example I can think of where this intent was carried through. There have been numerous close calls in others.
 

Thanks Dr. Carlos and Anon 9:29. Anon 9:29 you explained it exactly as I understand it. Unless it grows and puts pressure on parts of the brain that cause personality changes, a person with an aneurism can be going along with their normal lives, being their normal selves, until, boom!, the thing bursts. The worst they might have before that happens are headaches and dizzy spells, but nothing major. So there is no reason for Miriam showing her normal feisty personality to be a hint to Dan that shocking news won't indeed cause her aneurism to burst. If might actually dissuade him from telling her hard truths if he thinks she's getting more temperamental and hot tempered—he’ll be trying even harder to keep her in the dark. Of course, it's the fact that he's hiding things from her that's causing her to be so darn irritated with him and short tempered. Vicious circle. We in the audience of course know that Miriam is fine and doesn't have a ticking time bomb in her head. But Dan and everyone else doesn't know that.
 

"We in the audience of course know that Miriam is fine and doesn't have a ticking time bomb in her head. But Dan and everyone else doesn't know that."

However, for Dan, believing that the aneurysm is real, the prudent course of action would to have her under medical supervision, at the very least to monitor her blood pressure and lipids. Just some simple precautions. And maybe schedule the odd brain scan here & there to observe changes, since he "knows" she's got a condition. But NO..let's not provoke her with the "truth". Yikes, if that isn't the underlying (pun intended) theme running throughout this story. —Agnes
 

Agnes- Yeah. I have no idea how Dan plans on keeping Miriam medicated and monitored if she doesn't know what she has. How is he even going to get her to a doctor for that 2nd opinion if she thinks this last complete check-up gave her a clean bill of health? Of course, it's only been a day or two since he got the (false) diagnosis, so he may not have had the chance to think through his crazy plan. Of all the things he's keeping from her, I think the worst is keeping her major health issue from her.
 

Desafortunadamente, I know something about aneurysms, because I've had a ruptured one. Serious changes can occur after the rupture. It produces a stroke, and many survivors end up like Rocio. Some people have personality changes; it depends on what part of the brain is affected. I know caregivers who tell me that now they are married to a different person. But I was very lucky. I had double-vision and a loss of balance, because the rupture was in the right superior cerebellar artery. I did a few sessions of therapy and don't have any "deficits" that are noticeable.
 

I think Miriam told the doctor that Agatha was three months old. Why oh, why, did Dan always throw a three month old up in the air? We realize that Agatha is petite and quite a bit older than three months old, and I guess he knew she loved being thrown up in the air and couldn't resist. But that's not playing the part. But I had a few scarey moments when he did.

Paq, just loved your recap. Got a laugh with Aggie's lavendar tears.☺

Ann-NYC
 

Aleta- Your story is particularly a scary one because before your aneurysm burst, you didn't have a lot of huge clues either. I'm glad you didn't have to deal with personality changes after it burst either.
 

that damn Rodolfo! why'd he had to tell that dan jerk about the crisis at the LMQ??? gosh! so unnecessary!!! just what we need! yes, it's me again, not-a-dan-fan.

sorry, i tried not ranting about dan again, but it's just so damn impossible! he just irritates me every time! he should be there with his wife! but noooo...as dio said, he has no dignity whatsoever. & cami doesn't need him. she's got ppl. it's not like she HAS to be saved by Superman or Prince Charming. "but he loves her!" - who cares???! it's over btw them! his 1st priority is to his wife & child now, but what a MARVELOUS job he's doing with that! i seriously just wish that cami would just move on with her life & that his wife dumps him & takes her child with her.

~ posted by not-a-dan-fan hours ago, but i got so distracted by the korean drama i'm watching (which, by the way, is a much better show than this typical spanish novela) that i forgot to push "publish your comment" :) oh, & i keep getting the characters wrong. gosh, isn't it clear enough that i'm not a robot? lol...
 

not-a-dan-fan-- Looks like you think Dan is the inconvenient one too. ;-)
 

Paquita: Thanks for your fun, snarky recap.

Frankly, I don’t understand how Dio got to the position he has. He loses his temper when things don’t go his way (can you say temper tantrum, little boy?!) and he’s not very good at reading people. Which is crucial for a con man. Though I enjoy seeing him get thwarted, I have to say it’s a bit of a beanie thing for me.

I wonder if Vivi’s called Rafa to let him know what’s going on?

I like that Dan didn’t go ballistic when Mariano was comforting Cam.

Like those black pjs of Caye’s. I’d like some like them.

Maybe the virus warning from the doctor, just means that Dan will have to stay away from the baby and Miriam.

Nanette
 

Nanette: "Maybe the virus warning from the doctor, just means that Dan will have to stay away from the baby and Miriam." Just what I was thinking and boy, it's not going to sit well with Miriam. She's already steamed that La MQ takes precedence over her little familia, but now this!! Smoke is gonna come out of her feisty little ears.

Or maybe, as the avances showed, Dan gets infected through that wound and ends up in the hospital (again?) at death's door. —Agnes
 

I'm glad to see others commenting on Daniel's changing into the charro suit. It was just so screamingly illogical. Gosh, there's an emergency on the ranch, with the bulls dropping like flies, and so of course you take the time to change into an elegant, silver-trimmed suit--in order to take blood samples from dead bulls out in a pasture!!!!

The novelty of this TN is how logically and rationally most of the characters act in spite of the extraordinary situations they find themselves in, and so this really stands out.

Still, it looks good. But shirtless would have been better.
 

Great recap!! I have to agree that I love the "lavendar tears".

As a farm girl, the killing of the bulls is nearly killing me. I have to think they are referring to Rinderpest virus, which was announced as officially eradicated worldwide in late summer of 2011. Although I believe there is roughly a week of symptoms before almost certain death.
If I remember correctly there had been some studies as to using it as a bio-weapon because of its high mortality rate. One would assume that if it is erradicated world wide, the search for anti-viral drugs would be nearly impossible.

BTW, given the fact that Dio is the King of Bull...I think this would be a fitting end to him.
 

UtahDesert- LOL! Maybe Dan changing into the awesome charro suit was like a woman wearing her most flattering dress and sexy heels when she knows she's about to see an ex? :)
 

Agnes: "Dan gets infected through that wound and ends up in the hospital (again?) at death's door."--thought the same thing. Why don't they all just move there?
 

Nanette, I think that the temper tantrums are not normal for El Diablo. They're happening because of his obsession with Camila. Were that not the case he wouldn't be losing it, especially in front of a woman he married in order to get into the ranch in the first place.

With regard to Miriam's aneurysm, we really don't know that the doctor was lying in the first place because we never heard him discuss the test results with a colleague or even read them in the first place. We also don't know how much he had to say to El Diablo in order to survive that meeting. For all we know he could be telling (the TN version of) the truth.

Vivi, I can agree with your statement about the charro suit. I thought of it as a statement that his heart is really there with Camila. It could also be a show of authority over a piece of property he's in a life-or-death battle over with El Diablo who -- unlike Hissadora -- never has worn any version of it in this story.
 

UA,

Now you've got me trying to picture Dionysio in a charro outfit. Sorry, I just can't do it with a straight face.

Carlos


 

I wish they'd take the epidemic side of this seriously. Mariano should not be going out into the Malquerida pastures where the dead bulls are--at least if he plans on going back to Buenaventura afterwards. (Even if we lately never see him doing anything in the corrals or the pastures, he walks around and into the ranch-house on the same surfaces as workers who do come into contact with the B bulls.)

I liked what Agustina had to say in her scene with Dionisio at the dinner table. Yes, she can be silly, but she's not cardboard, and she does see some things and she does try to be fair. I'm really hoping she survives to the end of the show.

Were those supposedly to be dead bulls that were happily switching their tails during the scene between Daniel, Camila, and Mariano?


 

Paquita - Thanks a bunch.

Netgirl - Yago getting STD from the one-night-stand crossed my mind too.

Love, love, love Dio being incensed that Dan was there, that Camila didn't take Dio's help, and that he was arrogant enough to let Gussie see he was hot and bothered at Camila.

Not impressed with Hissadora's villainhood in having sex with Cayetonto. I thought she'd be shrewd enough to avoid it, even once.

The villains are slipping. Yay!
 

UA: your remark about the purported aneurysm is exactly what I've wondered all along. It is certainly plausible given that the final reports weren't in yet when the Doc was persuaded to "lie". Maybe it wasn't a lie after all, but you'd think if she really "had a condition" (as my grandma used to say) that the suborned Dr. Quacko would have prescribed a course of follow-up.

I don't know what I'm going to do when this show comes to an end.
 

UtahDesert; thanks for your great observations. I saw those happily switching tales and burst out laughing. You are so right about spreading infection. That place should be on total lockdown quarantine. —Agnes
 

Vivi: Love your comment about Dan dressing to impress. At least Super-Dan didn't have to find a phone booth in order to change into his charro suit! I think the charro suits are ridiculous, except for rodeo or fiesta days, showing the bulls to buyers, or posing for a portrait. Next to Dan, Camila looks underdressed.

A couple of years ago, I toured a plantation in Colombia and the owner's son wore jeans, a sports shirt (with the name of the plantation printed on it, not too big), rubber boots, and a black and white woven hat. (He was tall, dark, and handsome and his name was Miguel Angel, an angel indeed.)

My friend Rena owns a cattle farm in Kentucky, and she also wears jeans, a sports shirt, and rubber boots when she's in the pasture or barn.

As far as the charro suits go, I put on my beanie along time ago.
 

Carlos, just tune in to Abrazame Muy Fuerte in the morning to see Cesar Evora in such clothes. Of course, that series was made in 1999 and he's not as heavy there. Not to mention that this wardrobe was appropriate to his character.
 

Thanks, Paquita, for a fabulous recap!

So much has already been said by all of you so well, but just want to add that I'm finally starting to like Agustina again. I like what she said to El Diablo at the table that no matter what's going on, Camila and Daniel love each other, and it's their decision to make, even though she's not fond of him (to say the least). Along with that, it was pretty gutsy of her to photocopy his ID while he was so close in proximity. I have a sick feeling that she's going to suffer as a result of all this, especially once she catches on (and I think she's close) to the fact that her dear husband is obsessed with her daughter.
 

Wow, some people here thrive on being right even going as far as doing research and having their “fans” submit research to prove how right they are. Lighten up folks, I thought that this was a safe place to express an opinion about the tn. Instead of respecting others opinion and submitting one of your own, leaving it to the rest of us as to who we believe, there’s always a couple of people who thrive on pointing out to others how wrong their opinion is.

Carlos are you a physician or a tn doc? Your answer surprised if you are a physician. I ask because there are a lot of people who call themselves doc sort of as a nickname
 

UA: Dio has lost his temper before. Has it always been in regards to Cam? If so, it's hard for me to buy that over the course of his career as a conman that she's the only one that has made him lose his temper. Perhaps, she's been the only one that makes him lose it to the point of being careless in what he says.

I'm glad the bulls were moving their tales. I'm a bull dammit not an actor!
 

Paquita, thank you for the great recap! There was a lot of fast talking and shouting this time and I couldn’t catch it all. I appreciate your transcriptions of the dialogs very much.

Of course Auggie has lavender tears! LOL!

“What the heck, SALUD!” Now, that’s the spirit! *clink*

“EEEEEEEWWWWW! They’re lounging in bed.” Ick. Ick. Ick. ‘Nuff said.

So Miriam, who has a paid baby nurse at her disposal 24-7, manufactured this whole sick baby drama just so she could whine that her husband isn’t there to hold her hand because the baby had a tummy ache. What kind of idiot flips out and rushes off to the hospital when she hasn’t even felt the baby’s forehead herself (eeew! might get baby cooties!), let alone take it’s temperature (don’t you understand? this is an emergency in my own mind! I don’t have time for facts!) and despite the full attention of BFF Dante and the paid nurse waiting at home, she feels soooooo alone (if life won't make me miserable, I’ll just have to do it myself!). Ye gads. She is so far beyond getting on my last nerve that she’s starting in on my vital organs.

I think Miriam’s personality would have a lot to do with how she reacts to bad news. One might think that stronger people are more likely to deal with bad news with less drama. However, we all saw last night how she is quite capable of spinning drama out of thin air. So if faced with something real, she may not do so well. But how on earth does Dan think that he is going to keep her from finding out about any of the events that happened to him in the last six months? Forever? That is insane.

Psychologically, it is much more stressful to know that something is amiss but not what is wrong, than to know the truth. Dan needs to get a second opinion on the aneurysm and to get Miriam to a psychologist to start to work on how he can stop trying to live this lie. He has not taken any steps to put an end to their farce of a marriage and to be with Camila other than to take MM to the local hospital for the first diagnosis. At this point, I think Dan is too much of a coward to want to tell Miriam the truth or he would have done a lot more towards that goal by now. Her health is providing him with convenient cover so he doesn’t have to do that. He caved with just that one diagnosis. He is choosing to hide and to lie and to give up Camila rather than face the music. As it turns out, I can’t help but say that neither he nor Camila had it in them to truly fight to be together.

netgirl: “Dan/Cam are unhappy, but at least there's no deception between them.” Remember how they met? She didn’t even know his real name for weeks. How many times did Dan lie to her, even when there was no need? They most certainly have had a lot of deception between them. And the sad thing is, I don’t see that Dan learned anything from that whole escapade. He is still a liar and still choosing to live a lie with Miriam than live in truth with Camila.

I think that Augustina’s attitude toward Dio has changed, now that she suspects him and turned on him. He is right that she did contradict him for the first or maybe one of the only times ever. I say good for her, but, of course, he didn’t take is so well. She may pick up on that aspect of the conversation more than that he has the hots for her daughter. It’s really all about control. He wants total control of Auggie, Camila, and the MalQ. He does not have a con man’s personality. He’s more of a mobster and controls through intimidation and threats. He uses his anger to intimidate.

ITA that the whole ranch and probably the whole county would be in quarantine by now if there really were that deadly of a virus that was thought to be eradicated on the premises. I can’t see how they’d be shipping out bulls from the MalQ or the BA and spreading the virus to other areas.

 

I think he's lost his temper at Alonso's stupidity or carelessness with regard to Camila, but I recall he was somewhat amused at hearing about Alonso's little problem.

His anger also appears to be escalating. This is not just because his obsession is getting worse; it's because he is seeing Augustina as more and more of an inconvenience.

I also don't doubt that if Daniel got infected last night he will be gloating a little too much.
 

Regarding Miriam's diagnosis from the dishonest doc, we heard Dio tell him, 'this is what I want you to say ...' but we didn't hear exactly what.

I think we are meant to believe the diagnosis is false and is what Dio instructed him to say.
 

Urban- I really hope for Miriam's sake that the doctor is indeed lying under pressure from Dio. I really want the writers to think outside of the box and not kill Miriam off in the end. That would be too easy. Plus, if she does die from an aneurysm, Camila and Dan would feel guilty forever after, even if it isn't their fault.

Anon 3:27- I assure you most of us here are keeping it light, even as we a seem to take these plot points WAY too seriously. Don't take our obsessive-ness and detailed oriented-ness to mean that we are not enjoying the show or each other's comments. We wouldn't be here otherwise.

 

Pam, I think you're right about the bio warfare aspect of this disease. Which would mean that the only place to get a vaccine would be from a highly restricted federal or military lab, where these things are kept in the vault. I don't think a quick internet search is going to yield the results they are looking for. Plus, if it means contacting the authorities about something so dangerous, they might be looking at an armed guard surrounding the ranch. But my beanie is already way too tight. Can anyone tell I'm avoiding a bunch of tedious work.
—Agnes
 

Were the bulls lying down waving their tails meant to be dead, or just sick? I thought I also saw a bunch that were stock still-- dead. I just assumed the ones lying down were just in an in-between stage-- sick but not dead yet. It did make me wonder, how do you get a bunch of bulls to all lie down at the same time? UtahDesert- Is this normal behavior and they just caught them during the "siesta" hour, or whenever bulls would all choose to lie down at the same time? I am completely ignorant of animal behavior. How would a trainer be able to get a bunch of bulls to do this at the same time if it's not normal behavior?
 

I'm glad someone else is annoyed with Miriam. She went from apparently no worries about her child--taking her out in a stroller for a walk--to freaking out because of someone else touching the child's forehead and saying she had a fever. And what's the specialized baby nurse for, if she doesn't know something about infant ailments? Why not call her for advice?

And I would have liked to see Dante obviously worried about Miriam's condition. He should have been asking her how she herself was feeling from the moment she was worried about Agata; he might have suggested that a doctor at the clinic check her out just in case.

Dionisio really wins the prize for the "most inept villain ever who is not obviously intended as comic relief." If he infected the bulls in order to get the Malquerida, fine, but to think that this will win him Camila? On what planet? Has he noticed the existence of a supportive and loving ranch staff? Viviana? Pablo? Mariano?

I was wondering about how they got the bulls to lie down as well. It's also kind of irritating me that they're only referring to "toros." They breed bulls, right? Presumably they've got cows there as well.
 

Vivi: Some people may not have much of a clue, but I had migraine headaches for more than a month beforehand. And I had a classic "sentinel headache" two weeks before. I had dry heaves and didn't get out of bed all weekend. I should have gone to the emergency room.

And then there was this other clue: A friend of mine, who is a medium in Cassadaga, said, "Do you get headaches a lot? You should get that checked."
 

Aleta- That reminds me that I really need to go to the doc for a check-up. It's been almost two years. Yikes!
 

I think they are phoney bulls, notice the scene wasn't that close. Could also be photo-shopped.
 

PdelB - Great recap and I always love your *sigh*. Makes me smile every time I see it.

Love the comments today.... I am a fan of finding the illogical in our TNs. Still love the stories, just also love the illogical stuff too.
LXV - you keep writing what I am thinking! How about scheduling a random brain scan for followup? Or how about a second opinion as Jardinera said?

Everyone who commented about Mariano walking around the epidemic-riddled ranch only to return home to La BV. I wondered about that too. And of course the popular theme about WTQ? re: the charro suit! I would think the lovely suit would be a greater hazard than a help - ties and little silver gadgets can pick up germs and are harder to clean than old clothes that can be disinfected. But as they say, and I finally understand (took me a year or so because it isn't in the instructions : ) ) It is time to put on our charro beanies.

RE: various characters, Utah Desert, I had a similar impression about Marian. I get what she is saying over all about the pattern of Dan's absentee sentiments towards her, but every time I see the little budgekin handed off to the nurse, I shake my head. That is why Miriam can be so nicely coiffed I think. I don't think I changed out of the same few pairs of jeans for the first year of my kids' infancy! Also, re: Agustina I think she is silly and when she is in the moment, I really do see her trying to say the right thing....However IMO, her fatal flaw is that she has sacrificed her daughters' well-being and safety, in essence, for her guy.

RE: New Girl, does anyone else notice that she has buggy eyes more times than not? She looks like she surprises easily.
 

Wow, Meena, I'm impressed you wore jeans when your babies were little. A lot of women never make it out of sweatpants. :)
 

LOL - And how about that makeup, plucked and shaped eyebrows and up-to-the-second hair coloring. No roots on her!
 

Mena, "the little budgekin" Now, that's adorable. I'll definitely try to use that next time I get near one of those creatures.

Variopinta, photoshopping is a whole lot cheaper than hiring an animal trainer to be on the set. I know, 'cuz that's what I'm doing all afternoon, and it ain't union scale.
 

I'd have to say that I am most impressed with the pantyhose. I stopped wearing it some time ago just 'cause I hates it and I'm not any where near post partum. She's wearing it with her nightie.

Never a run or snag, either.
 

I think the dead bulls scenes are just still shots of their siesta time. The tail wagging shots are meant to show that some bulls are still alive, but not feeling up to running around and playing tag or anything.

It also has bothered me that they never mention the cows. I would think that to a breeder, the mama would be just as valuable as the papa.


 

Quita, thanks for a brilliant recap. I loved it. I read through the comments and love them also especially from Carolina "(if life won't make me miserable, I’ll just have to do it myself!)." That's so funny and so true for several of my whiny friends and relatives :-)

I think that Dante being Dan's best friend as well as Miriam's friend should hold off on the friendly advice to Dan while he's almost at his breaking point. .
 

Carolina,

"It also has bothered me that they never mention the cows. I would think that to a breeder, the mama would be just as valuable as the papa."

Of course she is. If you will recall in an earlier episode there was a testing of prospective moms in the ring. I don't remember what that was called but I'll bet that Vivi does. Dan even got into the act challenging the ladies with a cape.

Carlos
 

Miriam should be told about the tab that La MQ must have over at the hospital, in case there's another problem with the baby.

Looks like Augie has finally been dragged kicking and screaming into the light. Let's hope she stays there.

Kelly
 

Vivi, I hope so, too. The writers have been outside the box on a number of things so this should serve as yet another area in which we can expect the unexpected.

To Paquita's point about the other doctor thinking that Dante was Miriam's husband, I suspect that did happen for a reason (foreshadowing will probably never stop).

Agnes, do you watch Law & Order? Yesterday they had the episode where the perp fraudulently got a sample of a dangerous pathogen from a lab that didn't want to spend the money to take the appropriate security precautions.

Finally, don't bulls and cows sleep on their feet, like horses?
 

Retract that last one; they lie down to sleep.
 

Carlos- Yep. The "La Tienta" episode happened less than 30 episodes ago, WAY back when Cam and Dan were happy and giddy, and full of joy about their upcoming wedding and getting MQ back from Isa. Feels like so long ago. They emphasized the importance about the females/las hembras/vacas bravias and the process of selecting the best ones. Maybe the keep the vacas bravias in another location?

La Tienta: The selection of the young females (vacas bravias) who will bear the fighting bulls. "La tienta es el proceso más importante de la cría de toros, puede fortalecer o acabar una ganadería. En un tentadero se evalúan aspectos como la bravura, la clase y la nobleza de las reses." There's a video about the process: http://bit.ly/UAE2R7


 

UA, I don't watch much of any TV except one nightly TN while I get my exercise and Downton Abbey, when it's on. But it is well-known that certain diseases like smallpox have been "eradicated" except for samples kept under lock & key in secure government-contolled locations.

And I've seen plenty of cows and bulls lying down in the pasture. I don't know if they're sleeping, maybe just relaxing or something, but certainly not sick or dead.

And I'm sure you're right about the foreshadowing at la Dra's office. They wouldn't have emphasized that fer nuthin'.
 

Carlos and Vivi, I do remember that scene, but I thought they were testing out the young males - they certainly looked immature to me. I understood they were just talking about the genetic contribution of the females in producing top bulls, not evaluating them in the ring, but I certainly don't get all the details right. I have a little experience with farm animals, and my understanding is that a cow is almost never going to be aggressive and only the males are silly enough to charge at a red cape. It goes back to their days in the wild, where when under attack, the females and young huddled together and the males' role was to form a circle around them and fight off predators.

In any event, I didn't mean to suggest they had never said anything in the whole series about the females, but if any have died from this virus, they have not been mentioned (or I missed it). In terms of monetary value to a breeder and any potential for rebuilding the herd post-virus, I would think that the vacas would be extremely important. It strikes me as odd that they haven't been mentioned as a serious loss as well.
 

Carolina, you're right about this. They haven't mentioned the value of the females, but my hunch is that as this is an emergent situatio, its impact is in the immediate future. I think it's just dawning on them all the financial liability of not being able to deliver bulls for contracts pending. The ultimate loss of the herd and potential for reproduction is so far in the future as to make it moot right now.
 

Carolina- I looked for the info about las tientas (when Cam kept saying the word) and found it interesting because: 1) I assumed they just used normal cows to breed the fighting bulls with. But just the same as these bulls are not ordinary bulls/toros, but toros bravos, the females are not ordinary cows, but vacas bravas; 2) I was suprised that this kind of vacas have horns like the males (although they are much smaller than the males); and 3) They are agressive like the males, hence it looked like a bull fight as they selected the females for their bravura, just like they select the males for their bravuro.

These fighting bulls come from both mothers and fathers who are fighters! I'm still never going to be a fan of bull fighting, but I always enjoy learning about something I knew nothing about. Fascinating!
 

It certainly looks like the writers are foreshadowing Miriam and Dante getting together in the end. Unless it's a red herring.

The way things are going, Miriam is going to be the one asking Dan for a divorce. So he may never have to man up and tell her that he loves Cam.

I also noticed the bulls wagging their tails and laughed. I think I remember one of you saying that the actor who played Julian opened one of his eyes when he was supposed to be dead, but I missed that.
 

Agnes, I agree completely that it is too early for all the the ramifications to have sunk in.

Vivi, thanks for the info. I do agree it is always interesting to be exposed to new info and always surprising what comes up on these TNs. I can't follow your link, but I've been to the state fair, and I did know your #1 and #2. :) #3 and that the tienta was just for females is new info. I'll watch my back around any that I come across in the future!

BTW, female moose can be extremely aggressive when defending their young. I was charged by a mean momma once.
 

Carolina- Ah yes, moose! We had a few run-ins in Montana.

Maybe the full video link will work (just close the ad and then the video starts): http://www.citytv.com.co/videos/37890/
 

"Charro beanie" haha. I love it!!! Whoever said it.
 

Vivi, the problem is this computer. I'll try to remember to watch it later. Moose aren't herd animals, so the females have to defend themselves, I guess. Maybe these cattle also are not herd dwellers. I also once nearly got charged by a Mexican fightin' bull. AB keeps bringing that memory back for me. Scary stuff.
 

Aleta,"The way things are going, Miriam is going to be the one asking Dan for a divorce. So he may never have to man up and tell her that he loves Cam."

Ha! I think you've pegged it. That would wrap everything up tidily.
 

thanks PDB. I like "Lavender tears" but please don't laugh at me, what does it mean? is it colloquially speaking sort of? please educate me.
I said a loud AHA when Daniel reminded Dionisio that he is still part owner of MQ. I have been wondering too about this even when Gussy was telling him to leave MQ in earlier episodes. I was so indignant with these 2 freeloaders.
I hope nothing happens to Daniel.
 

Vida2. Re: lavender tears -- doesn't refer to anything other than Agustina always wears lavender. But we could make something up such as crying lavender tears when you've been so blinded by your evil husband and you are finally seeing the light.