Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Amor Bravío #164 (Uni 159) Tue 4/9/13 Hissadora flees, Yago gets his comeuppance, and Our Lady in Lavender makes the ultimate sacrifice.
Labels: bravio
Thought from tonight's episode. How is it that no one can smell LeoCerdo coming a mile away? He spent some time in the garbage, hasn't bathed or changed his clothes! Eeeew! Can't believe that cabbie even let him in his Taxi!
Someone has to stop Dionicio from seducing Camila -- no way this will take place. But I hope that whatever happens, he won't so much as kiss her. The thought of them kissing makes me cringe. shudder!!
As an homage to Our Lady in Lavendar, I plan to wear something purple to work tomorrow.
The TVyNovelas final nominations have been published. No SN on the best actress list...http://masquetelenovelas.blogspot.com/2013/04/los-nominados-definitivos-de-premios.html
I am so sad about Agustina. I think this will be so hard for Camila to bear. Yes, she is strong, but there is only so much a body can handle.
I'm sad. I'm also very sad at the news you posted Vivi in DC that Silvia Navarro is not nominated for an award. I just can't believe it. Was it you who said she was leaving Televisa for another studio (I don't know what else to call it)? This just doesn't seem fair that SN has been ignored for an award. I'm mystified.
Paquita, thank you so very much! I will truly miss your recaps. I'd like to know where you will be recapping next. :))
Fatima
Sigh, poor Agostina, but even worse, Camila does not need another funeral.
May Agustina rest in Peace. This is so sad, I thought her retribution was just being humbled in jail but I guess she has to be proven a good mother for all her past misdeeds to her children. I did cover my eyes, Paquita. I have a feeling the phonecall from the jail warden will interrupt whatever the evil Dionicio was about to do to Camilla. I hope so very much. This would have shown the audience that she did not die in vain.
I am disappointed that Sylvia Navarro won't get nominated. I like her acting.
When I started this Novela, I was glued in suspense every night for the first two months and now tonight it's the same. I was holding on to my seat because of so much important happenings.Good job writers. Thanks.
I don't say it every day but thanks to all the recappers. I have recapped on another site and I know it's hard work but well worth it to share the love of novelas with others.
I'm giving QBA a try even though I have to record it. Salinas had me hooked after LQNPA and I'm familiar with Peniche and Montero.
Tonight I'm going to llorar como Camila--excellent episode tonight.
Regarding Silvia, wasn't she the one that pulled her name out the last time for CME? Does anyone know that she isn't doing the same thing this time around? In any event, it's not fair to her fans--whether she's the one that doesn't want to participate or the committee board that are envious of her talent--she's by far the most talented female lead in this genre and especially for this year's nomination. If anyone had any doubt, tonight's episode alone should have clinched her nomination.
What a great recap! I felt the same for so many of your comments and asides and did so want to avert my eyes at that critical point last night. What a sad end for Agustina. And poor Camila -- losing one more person in her life, and one she truly loved. Wearing purple today ... a sweet idea!
And thanks for your many excellent recaps throughout. I am sure going to miss this group and the exceptional work of the recappers.
Once again, our hapless duo mess up. Isa, in all of her pride and smugness, has ruined every one of her clever plans by being just a bit too clever. Dio has been smarter, but not enough. Oooh, I am going to enjoy his end.
Hipolito. Again, a fine man. Assuming Luzma comes back to Pablo, mother and daughter will have the good men they so deserve.
No SN? Wow.
And thanks for all the work through this TN.
Cindy
It does bother me that Silvia isn't on the nomination list when all the other actors from this cast are (unlike the other series). The idea of Victoria Ruffo being nominated for Lagrimas is laughable in comparison.
Equally wrong is that Laura Flores wasn't nominated for Refugio.
It has always bothered me that the Premios are only about Televisa programs when there is Azteca and now Telemundo to contend with. Don't they get all of Telemundo's programs in Mexico sooner or later? This award program needs to include work by networks whose total novela output is seen in Mexico, since the magazine does cover that stuff.
A few head-scratchers from last night:
-- Malodorous Leoncerdo; this is a no-brainer.
-- Candles in a prison cell? Unless the entire facility is made of steel I can't imagine them permitting the risk of a fire.
-- The other mother in the prison yard didn't scream when she saw Augustina climbing the ladder to the tower?
-- Did the Albarrans and Sherlock Juarez forget that Leoncerdo accused Hissadora of cutting out his tongue?
Iagho. Selfish to the end. No surprise about that.
Don't you think that the whole suicide was set up among the inmates, so that the other inmate knew that Augustina would be climbing the tower?
I thought so.
Cindy
This morning, I am still sad about Agustina. Someone needs to spell it out to me, but why did she feel she needed to do this and what, specifically, would her death accomplish?
Also, for those of you who are so well versed in this genre, are you surprised that in such a strong Catholic country, that the Mexican writers wrote in this suicide?
Finally, from the very few glimpses of what I saw of the lead female actress in the Lagrimas novela, I just don't see how she can even be considered in the same league as Silvia Navarro.
I surely don't know the workings of this "Premio" stuff, but YIKES, how blind are these people?!
Fatima
What does Gussy's death accomplish? With her out of the way, Camila and the gang don't have to waste time and resources trying to get her out of jail (paying off the people swindled, searching for proof of her innocence, a trial, etc.), and most importantly Dionisio can't use her freedom or her life as a bargaining chip/pressure point to get what he wants from Camila (her body and MQ). It's a drastic solution. And Gussy was feeling like she was out of options and was desperate. Of course, the audience knows the good guys are close to putting the bad guys away, and this sad event could have been avoided, but both Camila and Gussy felt backed into a corner to do something drastic to save the other.
Suicide in telenovelas is not a surprise to me; the religious taboo is the very reason for it. It would have shock value among religious viewers.
An interesting co-incidence happened yesterday: On AMF yesterday morning Cristina tried to commit suicide over the rejection of her daughter and there was the same kind of retrospective of their relationship as in last night's AB.
Ok, rant over.
I feel really bad about Agustina. I get her reasoning, but this will be so hard for Camila. And what a heartless b--ch the prison official was when Agustina asked to make a simple phone call. She hadn't been convicted yet, and the official called her a criminal!
I truly hope that Camila gets the news about her mother before anything happens with Dio, but even a kiss will be too much. How delusional Dio is that he can say he looks forward to her caresses! Whatever goes down, I doubt she'd be anything other than a lifeless, doll-like participant.
Yes, Hipolito is quite a man. Hope Luzma can reunite with Pablo before this all ends.
Again, thanks to all recappers for a delightful experience!
As usual there are some terrific descriptors and turns of phrase here in this recap:
"You’ve heard how walls have ears? Well, in this case, las cortinas have ears cuz LeoCerdo is standing behind the sheer curtains and has heard everything" (Pure genius!)
"You can almost see the fire coming out of his nostrils!"
"the Lothario of Metepec readies himself" (Had me LOL!)
Thanks so much for keeping us entertained as well as "Al tanto" weekly. It's been a great roller coaster ride with you along for the shrieks and giggles. Glad you'll be there for the next one, too!
There aren't, unless you count Natalia's eavesdropping when Iago signed the contract, and Dionisio's threats were very veiled by that point- no overt threats of violence, just "if you know what's good for you" which could be open to interpretation.
Iago told Iliana that Dionisio had threatened his person, but she witnessed nothing and, at the time, took the threat as hyperbole. Nobody saw his men running him off the road and holding a gun to his head, and Iago never even told anyone about that until Friday's episode.
In other TN's this sloppiness of the writers having characters refer to things that never happened is common, but this is the first incidence of it I've noticed with AB.
El Diablo's henchmen can also be compelled to testify.
I was stunned when Agustina actually did it. I thought we'd seen the last of damage done to characters we care about...it's the last week for goodness sake.
Thought I really liked his shirt last night I was very disappointed in Yago. Finally he had a little chance at some redemption and he blew it.
So Dionysio considers himself a romantic? Bull. Agustin (CME) was equally creepy and disgusting but at least he was a romantic. Dionysio is just a lecherous old goat. No dinner... no drinks... a couple of puny candles and worst of all... no rose petals.
Carlos
I can imagine how emotionally difficult this episode was to recap, given the scene between Dio and Camila and, of course, Agustina's suicide at the end. I was happy to see that your sense of humor didn't desert you. I loved your describing LeonCerdo "carrying a plactic bag that surely carries the Hissadora face treatment." And I was moved by your homage to the Lady in Purple.
There were one or two places where I think you may have made an error. You said of Camila "she wants to go to BV so he cant tell her everything." I assume you mean "can," not "can't." And I was under the impression that when Yago told his father that he would return only after he became what he really is, un ganador, he was saying "a winner," not a breeder.
One thing that surprised me was Amanda's enthusiasm over the restaurant Ossie took her to. She said something like "oh, how beautiful," but it looked pretty modest and casual to me. Perhaps her description reflects her happy state of mind rather than the actual appearance of the restaurant.
Cindy, I too thought that the melee in the prison yard had been arranged to give Agustina an opportunity to climb the tower unperceived. I don't know whether all the inmates were in on the plan--perhaps just Aggie's cellmate. But it doesn't take much to set off such a brawl.
I was very sad and moved by Agustina's letter to Camila, but at the same time I was exultant: I understood every word she said as she composed her letter; I never had to look at the Spanish captions. That experience is rare enough for me that my delight overcame even my sadness.
I think maybe I'll cancel my subscription to TVyNovelas in protest. I subscribed both to improve my lame Spanish and to try to get info about upcoming TNs, but I haven't had much luck with the latter. And now that I see that the revista and Televisa are hand in glove, I guess I see why.
First, thank you UA for all the hard work and dedication you've put into this novela. I read your recap but was unable to comment at all yesterday. But everything was said that I would have said, and more.
And thank you Paquita, for your hard work and dedication as well. This is the first TN I've watched with you recapping, and I really enjoy your writing style.
I was surprised that Aggie actually jumped. I thought for sure that she would not do it at the last minute.
The previews I saw showed Camila in the black dress/negligee, whatever it is, and so she doesn't get wind of Aggie's demise before she changes. How will Camila get the news? Will she answer her phone during the disgusting sexy time?
I hope he, Mariana (Luzma), and our AB villains win. Oh, and I hope AB wins for best tn.
OB hit another out of the park with that letter and the entire episode. You could see her desperation growing to this really awful conclusion. If the producers were going for shock, they were successful.
Carlos - "So Dionysio considers himself a romantic? Bull. Agustin (CME) was equally creepy and disgusting but at least he was a romantic. Dionysio is just a lecherous old goat. No dinner... no drinks... a couple of puny candles and worst of all... no rose petals." Thanks for giving us a laugh about this icky situation and you are right the man has no romantic skills.
Agustina may have done some stupid things but she didn't deserve jail and she certainly didn't deserve to die (and will Cam feels guilty because she did it to save her?). I hope the writers have a horrible end in store for Dio, but I think at this point, nothing would satisfy me. Is it too late to bring back hanging, drawing and quartering? No--not even that. No wait. I just thought of something. I hope he does go to jail and becomes someone's you-know-what.
When I first saw the avances with Agustina on the tower and the next scene with Cam/Vivi/Rafa/Dan, I thought that Agustina's death would be what stops Dio from raping Cam. I thought either someone will come for her or possibly call her with the news and she'd tell Dio she had to take the call or they'll worry about her and deduce where she is.
Now on to the, I already know before I read them, awesome recap and comments.
Nanette
I also doubt that Dionicio could be anybody's prag. The most important reason I think he should be in ad seg (administrative segregation or solitary confinement) is so he can't start trouble that becomes too big for a prison staff to handle. The bonus is that keeping him from outside contact will drive him stir-crazy.
Shout out to Super Hipolito! He's a good guy. His watery eyes when he was talking to Piedad almost made me cry.
I was the one who read that Silvia was jumping ship for Telemundo. now I hope it's true. Many of the commenters agree with us too. They allowed four nominees in some categories so they could've thrown her name in just to appease the fans, and then vote for someone else. At least Laura Flores got a nod in the Favoritos del Publico.
Kelly
Is sobbing for 180 episodes a talent?
From what I saw of Refugio, Zuria Vega didn't look very good either.
Silvia is just so far superior to all of them.
She was at Azteca before Televisa. After she left Azteca, it was like they wiped her off the face of the earth. Did I hear sth about her moving to another network, could be the reason she was bypassed. Anyone with half a brain would know she is by far the best. VR, get real!
The last time I was so mad about the Premios was when Lucero & Joan Sebastion's song was not nominated from STuD.
For once, I'm glad the previews gave up too much information. Otherwise, I'd be totally flabbergasted about Augustina. So sad for Camila. Augustina's suicide is being portrayed as the selfless act of a mother, but I so wish that she had thought deeper and come up with another plan. I kept thinking why didn't she just fake her death instead. But I guess the point was to show Augustina had left behind years of selfishness to make the ultimate sacrifice for her daughter.
I must've blanked out when Dio snuggled Camila because happily I don't remember it at all.
Tks Paquita for todays recap & all the previous. It has been so enjoyable.
Is Camila going to get a call on her cell in mid congress that her mom offed herself? RIP Aggie, we hardly knew ya. I think the inmates knew what she was doing & wouldn't go against her plans.
Where did Leo get money to pay for the taxi, I know, tighten the beanie. This TN has had fewer beanie moments than any other.
Don't you just want to slap the crap out of Mariano every time he asks Dan "¿qué haces aquí?"
We were expecting one of the good guys to buy it before the end and Agustina was it. Flaco thinks there might be one more, but I hope not. That was enough.
UA: I get what you say about Dio's anvil. Solitary confinement would be bad for him. I just wish I felt more satisfied by that end.
I have a trio of actors that I follow (introduced to me in my first TN--MEPS), Lucero, Fernando Colunga and Silvia Navarro. I'll follow them anywhere. But if they all have a TN on at the same time, I would choose SN's everytime. Even if it's a Meija one. :)
Nanette
I saw an inquisition museum in Mex & the spiked chair & head crusher would be a good choice for Dio's punishment.
Mena
This made me laugh out loud:
"... he could at least get take out. What goes well with rape?"
Shame on us.
Carlos
By then they knew El Diablo well enough to recognize a veiled threat. Iagho's responses to him in the conversation Natalia heard said enough.
El Diablo's henchmen can also be compelled to testify.
Marta in NY said...
Actually, Anonymous, there were witnesses, and that would be the thugs themselves. Given the offer of a deal with the policia, I think they would cave when they realize Dio is going down big time:)
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Sure, the veiled threats were recognizable as such, but if Natalia reported that conversation (if she were willing to leave Chiapas) to the police I seriously doubt that it would lead to his arrest, which is what is now at issue.
And I think the henchmen would not cave until AFTER the police order his arrest, that order being what Daniel hoped witness testimony could achieve.
Thanks much for the recaps, this one and all those that came before.
You have helped my comprehension enormously and added a good deal of humor as well.
Chris in FL
I wouldn't blame Camila one bit if she pulled a "Bobbit" on Dionisio.
Soyyo
PS - Thank you, Paquita and all the other recappers, you have made this TN doubly enjoyable!
Dulce
I had never heard of a Faraday Cage, but wiki came through.
Save that for QBA, I think you are going to need it. The beanie is good enough for this one. However TV & novelas could use one.
OAT-I read somewhere that CdlaF is returning to TNvs this summer. Will he be teaming up with the same AB producer/crew?? Maybe somebody here knows.. This is my most reliable source of info for info on AB actors :)
Thanks again
Dulce
Thanks for all your wonderful recaps, Paquita!
Karamy
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