Thursday, September 26, 2013

Qué Bonito Amor #117 (Mex 155) Wednesday 9/25/13 Here comes Da Judge….Here comes Da Judge!!!


We're almost at the end folks!!

Justicia Americana:

Merry Mariachi's act up in court, Derecho testifies he estimates Santos laundered over $200 Million (dollars). Justo objects, saying Derecho is only speculating.  Summers presents bank statements as evidence of a BancoAmerica account used to move the money – an account that was curiously closed two days after the demise of Garza Cars......tan tan TAN!!  Santos vehemently objects, cuz in this version of Justicia Americana he can, saying that account never existed for the bidness


OJ continues to watch the trial on his laptop – BWA-HA-HA!

Summers  implies that Garza Cars was involved in the money laundering.  Derecho testifies Santos managed to escape Justicia Americana several times.  Summers concludes this only means one thing – Santos is guilty.

Justo picks up the questioning – wasn't Santos' life in danger at one point?  Derecho: duh, well we weren't sure his life was in danger.  Justo brings out the report re the plane crash that almost killed Santos, and that this was no accident.  Derecho denies having anything to do with that.  Justo says Derecho at one point had the one responsible in his custody yet never accused him of attempted murder.  Derecho: huh?   Justo introduces evidence that Arnold Smith was detained at the Garza Cars hangar minutes before the plane exploded.  He wonders why Derecho never tied Smith to the attempted assassination since he was found in the hangar.  Derecho's thinking about it. 

Derecho explains their theory was that Smith had tried to escape with Santos.  Justo points out that Derecho's report doesn't show Smith was accused of attempting to escape with Santos.  He reminds Derecho of his warning that his son's life was in danger.  Why didn't Derecho's department protect Santos?   When Derecho says they did try, Justo wonders if they tried to protect Santos in the same manner as they “protected” Bruno and Arnold.  Derecho won't claim responsibility for those deaths but admits they were part of this case.  Justo deduces Derecho is indeed responsible for those deaths.  In the end, Derecho didn't hesitate to point his finger at Santos as the guilty one but not against himself.  We hear support from the mariachi peanut gallery and the judge shushes them.  Derecho mumbles something about trying to...Justo interrupts him and asks where is the assassin responsible for those deaths?  Derecho has to admit he doesn't know.  Justo finds it ironic that he doesn't know yet says Santos is responsible.  He wonders if Derecho thinks of himself as a capable police officer.  More noise from the peanut gallery.  Justo asks again if Derecho considers himself a capable police officer.  OJ sits up at his desk, looking very impactado.  He swears Justo will not get the best of him! 

OJ calls some dame putting on some very red lipstick – he tells her it’s time.  Hot Lips smiles.

Justo continues haranguing Derecho – surely a good cop would not have let Santos slip through his fingers. The only reason Santos was captured was due to some unfortunate circumstances. Curtis comes to her hubby's defense but no one really pays her any attention, as usual. 

Curtis is now on the stand.  She hesitantly testifies Santos is a criminal.  His flight from justice would indicate he is a criminal; however, her experience tells her he is not guilty of money laundering.  Summers is confused.  Santos and Maria exchange hopeful glances.  Curtis is stressed. 

Summers objects and asks that this last statement be stricken.  Judge agrees, over Justo's objection.  Judge instructs Curtis to respond only to the question asked. He instructs the Jury to disregard her last statement.

Justo continues his line of questioning:  How was it that they captured Santos that first time?  Was it through their diligent investigative methods?  Curtis hems and haws but admits it was pure coincidence that they caught up with him.  Lots of mumbling and commenting from the peanut gallery and the jury – wow.  Justo points out that it appears LAPD catches up with criminals through pure coincidence and not through their professional investigations. 

OJ talks to his laptop:  “these fools thought they'd be able to trap me, the Orange Julius!  Ha, please!  I'm the Padrino!  To catch Il Padrino, one must be molto, molto, inteligente!  And that someone is in jail.  Cheers, Santos caro mio.  Yo soy Il Padrino.”  ok, you've already covered that one.

Curtis adamantly defends the LAPD as one of the most efficient in the world, especially the department headed by Derecho.  And by the way, she wants to say that she is a capable police officer.  Justo asks her, in her vast experience, does she think Santos is guilty of money laundering?  Summers objects, saying this testimony has already been stricken.  Justo defends his question, saying that since Curtis has dealt with many criminals as part of her job, her opinion in this matter is crucial to his case.  Judge Waffle agrees and allows Curtis to respond.  She repeats she does not believe Santos is guilty of that crime. 

Collins is now on the stand, testifying that Santos used him as a cover in order to do his dirty work. He testifies he saw Santos at a hotel in Mexico where Santos was staying in the presidential suite.  Summers points out to the jury that this is important because the defense will say that Santos lived as poor man in Mexico and now we all know this is just another lie!  Everyone is impactado.

Now Maria testifies (she's looking a bit peaked in this episode).  No way is Santos a criminal.  He's the most honorable man she's ever known.  She knows this because she knows his heart and his soul.  Oh, and she was also witness to two attempts on his life. She was also a victim in those attempts.  The culprit was none other than Licenciado OJ.  He not only tried in Mexico, he even threatened her in the restaurant where she works in El Lay.  Justo tells the judge that he will hold LAPD responsible for the life of the witness.  Maria goes on to testify that despite what Summers says, Santos lived very humbly in Mexico, going so far as to take the food from his own mouth to help others.  She was impressed that a man of so much wealth would work like an animal just to keep himself fed.  She asks the jurors to consider that if one their friends brought drugs into their home without their knowledge and then the police found those drugs in their homes, are they guilty?  Well, that's exactly what happened to Santos.  “Make no mistake about it, you're judging an innocent man while the guilty one runs free, putting my life and yours at risk.” 

Oh, brother,  Il Padrino finds Maria to be beautiful and intelligent.  He must have her.  Really?  Santos doesn't deserve a woman like her.  Ruh-roh – ghost appears again says he's waiting for him in hell.  OJ freaks but the ghost disappears as soon as he turns around.  Eeek!  It's enough to rub that tan right off you!

Summers asks Maria if it's true Santos introduced himself to her under an assumed name and profession.  Did she ever think it was possible he was hiding his criminal past?  Justo objects – saying the prosecutor has already condemned the accused.  Not so, says Summers, he just finds it incredible that Maria didn’t know who Santos was.  She must be his accomplice and that's why she's lying.  Maria denies this, saying it's against her personal and professional ethics to lie.  She didn't discover Santos' true identity until long after she met him as Jorge Alfredo.

Summers wonders if in Mexico attorneys aren't taught to be honest.  If so, why didn't she call the authorities when she learned of Santos' true identity?  Is this also part of her “ethical code”?  Maria replies it was because she knew Santos was innocent.  Summers reminds her she's under oath and asks again why she didn't turn him in.  She responds, “por amor”.  Love allows us to see into the heart and soul of others (oh, broooootherrrrrr) and she can assure them that Santos' heart and soul is innocent.  Summers asks that the witness' testimony be disregarded since she is so clearly emotionally involved with the accused.  Maria argues he's wrong (shouldn't the judge be the, er, judge of that?).  She's not the type of woman who would deny justice for the sake of love.  No sirree.  She's an honest woman against all injustices.  She clarifies that it wasn't because of her love for him that she didn't turn him in.  It was because he is innocent.  Justice without values is not justice.  When justice is found through enforcement and violence against others  – that is not justice.  Above all, justice is a divine right.  And Santos' life has always been in danger, always threatened.  Summers asks her to get to the point (please do).  Maria theorizes that before bringing forth justice, the government must protect and defend life.  Summers states this is precisely the reason justice is being sought in imprisoning this defendant.  Maria continues her rant – justice can only be exercised through finding the truth, without vengeance.  She wonders if Summers is seeking vengeance against Garza.  Summers asks Judge Waffle again to strike her testimony.  Waffle denies the request because Summers engaged in the discussion and besides what the senorita said about justice was right on.  He instructs Summers to continue

Summers continues by reminding Maria that  Santos was arrested and they're only trying to seek justice in the matter.  Maria is very clear on the matter but, she preaches, an excess of justice becomes an excess of injustice.  Deep.  Whatever, Summers asks her not to try to move the jury with dichos.  She asks only that the jury consider all the holes and errors in the investigation. They're about to commit an injustice.  Are they prepared to look the defendant in the face after 20 years of imprisonment and say, “oops, sorry!”  Summers now points out that the witness is speaking directly to the jury and attempting to manipulate them.  Maria speaks directly to Judge Waffle now. The life of a white collar criminal isn't the only thing on the line here, it's also the life of an innocent man.  “Who's innocent?” asks Summers.  “Santos de la Garza!” responds Maria.  Now she turns to the jury, pointing her finger (very rude), “There have been attempts on his life, even while in jail!”  Summers asks who may have tried to kill Santos.  “OJ, he's the one who should be on trial!”

Summers wonders what proof she has of OJ's participation.  There is no proof to what she's saying.  OMG!  She continues with the speeches.  I thought she was supposed to be testifying!  “Justice is blind because she must be impartial but that doesn't mean those meting out justice should be blind.  The evidence is compelling.  Santos..was..attacked..in..jail! Who tried to kill him? Who?”  Summers surmises it must have been his accomplices, right?  Maria throws his words right back at him – there's no proof to what he's saying.  Oh, this is really getting ridiculous.  Back and forth we go. She uses the witness stand as a soap box stating that condemning an innocent man would be tarnishing the Constitution.  The Constitution's purpose is to protect the rights and lives of the citizens.  The peanut gallery erupts again and Judge Waffle demands silence. 

D.F.

Paloma reminds Aaron that it's Roddy she lurves.  Aaron points out all they do is argue.  We're, ahem, treated to Aaron singing his lurve for her.  Blech!  He kisses her at the end, and is rewarded with a slap across the face.  Paloma is offended and leaves without saying so much as “no puede ser!”  She runs down the hall and flashes back to Roddy's kiss.....then Aaron's kiss. 

Mirna arrives triumphantly at Concho's depa.  Concho demands to know why she's there!  She announces she now owns one third of the bar!  Woo-hoo!  She reminds him that she at one time gave him everything in return for a promise he never kept.  To prove that she once loved him madly, she's come to his rescue.  She can see he's badly in need of money especially after his heart operation.  But she's not here to talk about his heart, she's here to save him – how much does he want for his share of the bar? BAM!

Oh hell no, Concho's not ready to give up what little share he has now, not until he dies!  Bwa-ha-ha!  Mirna just laughs in his face and pulls out that little ol' document he signed for Ruben promising he would sell the bar at whatever price Ruben set.  Concho can't believe it!  She reminds him one shouldn't be signing papers until one is very sure of what's written on them.  Cue the flashback of him signing the paper which Ruben assured would make the bar unconditionally his (Concho's).  Maldito Licenciado del Olmo!

Egads, more flashbacks – Isa remembers Santos telling her a story when she was in the hospital.  Why this is here, I don’t know.  I only report what I see, kids.

ElVirus and Ruben are walking about town and he's very skittish about being discovered.  She insists on shopping and eating out.  As he's waiting for her outside a shop, he spies los Keystone de D.F coming up behind him. He splits before they catch him.

ElVirus catches up to Ruben, pithed that he left her behind.  She's carrying a ginormous balloon for some reason and he wastes no time pointing it out.  He's fed up with being hounded by los Keystone de DF  She chooses this moment to ask if he killed Fabian. 

Meanwhile, Mirna is not letting Concho down easy.  “Admit it, you were taken. You're just beginning to pay back for the evil things you've done.  The best you can do now, is just sell your share and finish with all this once and for all. Aw, poor gordis, roar! Raaaaagh!”  She chokes on her roar cuz Concho has heard enough and lunges at her, choking her with his bare hands.  He swears he's gonna kill her! 

Wifey rushes in at the last minute and pulls Concho off Mirna in the nick of time.  Mirna gasps for air but wastes no time in calling him a murderer and swearing her vengeance.  Wifey pleads for an explanation.  “QTH?”

Paloma meets Amalia at her job where she's busy preparing what I think will be chile ahogados, yum.  Amalia notes Paloma seems sad and concludes it's due to Roddy.  Paloma tells her that's only partly true and tells her about Aaron and The Kiss.  Meanwhile, Aaron is also talking about The Kiss but with MeanGirl and telling her she better get ready to pay up cuz he's just about won this bet, yessiree Paloma is just about fallen into his trap.  The cad! 

Paloma is quick to tell her mom that she did reject Aaron but she's very confused all the same.  She didn't like him at first but after he went through the trouble of saving their furniture, she sees that he is genuinely worried about them and genuinely wants to help them.  Amalia doesn't find it odd that Paloma would be attracted to another boy but reminds her that Roddy is her BF and she shouldn't do him wrong.  Paloma complains that Roddy is jealous and is always arguing with her.  Amalia says it isn't right to play with anyone's affections.  Paloma must make a decision but first, she needs to be certain of her feelings. 

We go back to MeanGirl and Aaron – Meangirl 2 has joined them and Aaron doesn't wanna have anything to do with her.  He takes off.  MeanGirl2 proposes that MeanGirl1 help her get Aaron and win the bet in the process!  Paloma is in the background witnessing this. 

Concho explains to wifey that with Ruben's arrest warrant hanging over his head, he's not likely to be going to the police to enforce the contract.  They're likely to arrest him then and there.  He makes a call to Keystone Cop Malo. 




Avances:  Hot Lips arrives to testify!  In a very tight red dress, no less.  Save me.  

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OMG, OMG, OMG. Just when I thought this couldn't get worse. My beanie's so tight, I don't think I'll ever watch another courtroom scene again!

I have to rant -- So this guy sitting behind Derecho is obviously taping, no not taping, BROADCASTING, the proceedings for OJ, with an iphone no less. Derecho doesn't say anything. Curtis doesn't say anything --- LAPD's finest. Even Judge Waffle says nothing -- egads! And OJ sees the trial through various angles -- does the judge have a camera up his sleeve? guess those smartphones are smarter than I thought.

And WTH? Maria isn't testifying to anything! She's preaching her version of justice with no interruption from anyone. Never mind that the Defense and Prosecution are presenting their cases simultaneously.

No facts, no evidence. Just opinions, theories, and professions of love. Wow.

Very sloppy work -- no research. Obvio.

ok rant over. maybe. for now

have to get some sleep -- if I can rub this mess from my memory. Que brutos!
 

Thanks, Paquita.

I actually saw a much worse courtroom scene than this back in 2001 or so, but this kind of disorder in the court would never be tolerated in the US.

As to the multiple camera angles for Giuliano, it looks like either someone will be discovered to be controlling multiple cameras or this is directorial sloppiness.

Maria has apparently learned to maintain her cool, but the writers should have had her detailing the inconsistencies of the case. The prosecutor does deserve a severe reprimand for his violations of professionalism here and the judge is completely remiss for not getting tough with him.

Hundreds of pieces of evidence? That is severe hyperbole.

I also question why Maria isn't staying at Justo's home. That could be because it would further jeopardize this bad joke of a case, but may not be that much safer for her vis a vis Giuliano.
 

Paquita, I can't believe you made it through this PAINFUL episode and made it so incredibly entertaining for us!! Thank you!

Man oh man, if I could have reached into that screen when Derecho and Curtis were on, I would have yanked them so hard they would not have known what had hit them. I CANNOT stand those wretched characters. Bumbling fools and idiots.

And what gives with Maria?! Even I wanted her to just shut up.

The interesting story line now is Concho. Just exactly what has this man really done?

Mirna. Another disgusting individual.

Thank you again, Paquita.

Fatima
 

Derecho is the worst cop ever and I hope his punishment is that he banished to the archive room for the rest of his career, if not outright fired from LAPD.

Justo TOLD Curtis & Derecho Santos' plane was tampered with.

When Curtis/Derecho arrested Santos at Justo's house, they were ambushed

2 of Santos' "co-conspirators" were killed with the same type of gun...the same gun JUSTO brought to Derecho's attention

Justo told Derecho NUMEROUS times Santos' life was in danger. So for Derecho to get on the stand and claim "he ain't know Santos' life was in danger..." Sir, have a seat. You are the WORST COP EVER. And sadly, he can't blame being on the take for such crappy police work.




 

Anon207, thank you so much for your comments. Gosh, I know it's just a story, but I despise those characters. They were never funny and their sub-sub plot of "falling in love" was dull, boring, and totally uninteresting.

I agree. Banish these fools to the file room forever. Better yet: "Off with their heads!!"

Fatima
 

Derecho will get away with that because it can't be proven in his book.

The explosion in the bar was clearly targeting Santos and Maria, but unless the two guys who actually placed the materials fess up, they can't connect this to Giuliano.

From a writing perspective there is a missed opportunity here: Summers' grudge against the Garzas should be something much more recent than a school rivalry with Justo. It should be that he is the father of a young woman knocked up by Santos and sent to relatives in Mexico... who then abandoned baby Isabel. There is still no explanation of her origins or why Santos had the only matching blood.
 

The interesting story line now is Concho. Just exactly what has this man really done?
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We know Concho stole Pedro's half of the bar and never let Amalia know about it.

We know Concho has a sweet spot for Amalia. Lourdes knew it too and that's why she didn't like Amalia.

We know Concho cheated on Lourdes with Mirna.

We know Concho wasn't paying his taxes like he should.

And we know Concho unknowingly signed over the bar to Ruben because he didn't want anyone else (Amalia/Maria, Elvira, Lourdes, Mirna) to stake a claim to the bar.

Other than that, we don't know what Concho has done.

Mirna's just mad that Concho a) busted her for stealing the money b) fired her but most importantly c) dumped her to stay with Lourdes. I think "C" is really what galls her the most.

Concho's world is crumbling down because the bar is doing poorly, he was forced to turn it over to previously unknown spawn Susanito, his health is poorly & he's just learned Ruben has shanked him out of the bar. Concho is at the edge...I see him pulling a Fred G. Sanford for real.

Elvirus will get her just desserts for refusing to give Concho the money for his medical care, let alone all of her other crimes.
 

How long has Mirna been involved with Concho? Could she be Isabel's birth mother?

The document signing the bar over to Ruben wouldn't hold up in court no matter what has happened since then. Neither Concho nor Mirna is smart enough to realize that.

And what writer wrote that Amalia sold a third of the bar when she owned half? Why didn't Angelica Maria correct that or is Amalia that stupid?
 

Maybe Amalia did only sell a third of the bar. She could still own 17% of the bar, and sold Mirna 33%.

I think the time to expect realism is long past, what with everyone (black, white & hispanic) speaking Spanish in America, a circus sham of a trial, none of Padrino's associates coming to get OJ, the shenanigans of the bar, prisoners having block parties in the yard and able to roam freely in prison, visiting each other cells etc.
 

I can't believe we're this close to the end with so many unanswered questions.

Angelica Maria's dog needs some acting lessons.

This kid Aaron is more attractive than Roddy, but loses credibility just by being Vainessa's cousin.


 

I gave Aaron props yesterday but today he is back as Assron. He, his snotty cousin and her BFF need to be banished, him to military school and the girls to a convent school. I'm sick of them.

Maria preaching about the US Constitution major eye rolling. She did get in some good shots but I was hugely distracted by looking at the weird shots of the back of Sommers head. Couldn't believe the IPhone filming which would have been banned in the smallest court in the country. And for heaven sake why didn't Justo remind the guy that he was the one staying in the Presidential Suite not Santos who never stayed in any fancy hotel room. Opportunity lost — sloppiest writers EVAH!

Oh for the screaming love of God now we have OJ thinking Maria is beautiful and smart and she is going to be mine. WTH is it with these men making these asinine statements about a woman committed to another man who would't give them the time of day. Come on Bruno come back to life and scare your halfwit el padrino cousin to death. We are running out of time for OJ and the Redneck to get what is coming to them.

I may be alone in this but I refuse to believe that feisty little Isa is the spawn of Concho and the slutty Mirna. No longer care who she really is.

If the courtroom scenes were ridiculous the idea that Ruben is out and about on the street, sees Keystone Kops Dos and thinks he can disguise himself by raising his jacket collar.

Obviously the ace up OJ's sleeve is the painted lips skank. Is she going to claim she was Santos' lover and helped him stash the money? Maria didn't look too happy during those previews.

They may be screwing up the courtroom scene but at least the prison cells look halfway realistic in contrast to the huge sun lit cell in LT with what looks like childrens bunk beds for the prisoners. You would never have a little step ladder leading up to the top bunk — it is a potential weapon. And I hate that we are going into the last two weeks of QBA being short changed by five minute each night which adds up to an hour lost when maybe, just maybe this hot mess would have some scenes that make fricking sense.






 

Actually Santos was staying in a fancy hotel when he first arrived to Mexico City. He was rooming with Rigo the truck driver. I want to say I remember some cops tracking him down to that hotel. This was before he got mugged & had to go to JNTR for help.
 

Anon I remember him staying there but when the guy testified at the trial I think he was talking about the hotel Justo and Wendy were staying in and that silly chase went on. That night he was with Rigo was so early no one even knew he was in the DF and it certainly did not look like the Presidential Suite in any top class hotel. In any event it was a stupid piece of testimony which could easily be disproved by all the testimony of Santos living in the pension.

Derecho did not look happy with the Mrs testimony that she didn't think Santos was guilty. I still can't get over what morons those two cops were. Multiple attempts on someone's life and they somehow come to the conclusion it is by his associates. They were correct in that flight does tend to be a tacit admission of guilt but somehow trying to save one's life might also be a good reason for getting the heck out of dodge.
 

Actually, the man that testified about Santos staying in the presidential suite was correct. It WAS at the beginning. He saw Santos and started screaming at the desk clerk that he was a wanted man and they called the cops. Santos had gone to the business office to get on the computer but saw the police and took off. He was mugged later that night. The chase when Justo was at the hotel was at a much later time.

Isa might be Mirna's, but there is no way she could be Concho's and Miss Greedy not take advantage of it. Mirna would have made him pay through the nose if she had his spawn. Maybe she couldn't afford to raise her and abandoned her right before she started at JNTR. She probably assumed there were so many people at the vecindad that someone would pick her up. Probably hung around to see Amalia pick her up. But she's never shown any emotion whatsoever the few times she's been in Isa's vicinity.
 

Anon

Right I forgot that scene.The guy made it seem like Santos had been living in the lap of luxury for some time not only one or two nights.

Mirna as a mother just doesn't cut it with me. As you point out she shows no interest in Isa what so ever. I'm beginning to think that we will never know the whole story. I still can't believe that after Isa made the discovery herself and ran away when she came back not one single thing has ever been said. The child is bright and inquisitive so it is completely unrealistic to think that she didn't demand to know the whole story but nada. SMH
 

Mirna doesn't have a drop of maternal feeling. The "llamada de la sangre" (which I think is total BS) wouldn't apply to her in any event.

If Isabel is hers and Concho's she might have discarded her because she wasn't the boy Concho may have wanted.
 

URBAN

Interesting thought but it seems Concho was a serial cheater and he did reject the one son he had. Mirna might have played the baby card if true but somehow I don't think Concho would have cared. We don't know how long she worked at JTNR or how long her fling with Concho went on. She seems really bitter but I think it is more the loss of money than the dude. She is acting as the front for Evile and the Redneck both of whom will kick her to the curb faster than Concho did. I think she thinks she is going to come out on top and she might since R and E have a load of Karmageddon rapidly, I hope, approaching.
 

Sorry to be logging on so late.

Paquita--Let the air out of that beanie. It helps a little. You got El Show de Shows. I worked with attorneys for 15 years and couldn't keep up with anything that was going on in this trial. As we've all said, that's not the way criminal trials are conducted in any US courtroom. Sorry it fell to you to report.

I got a big kick out of OJ watching a streaming live version and the fellow capturing it on his smart phone from the rear. You did those scenes justice.

I think it's funny that the judge's last name is Gahvel or was it Gavhel--anyway, look for it tonight.

Great comments everybody. Can't wait for this to end, and then I think, I'll miss my 10 o'clock date with QBA and sad to say goodbye to this small but avid community of Carayers.

You probably won't see me on Mentir (thanks to David Zepeda) even though it has my dream-worthy Diego Olivera. I'd like to see him back in a dramatic role, antagonist or not.

For curiosity only, for anyone who watched Hija del Mariachi. Did they have a California location and a trial? Was there someone like Mirna, Elvira, Concho & co.? How about Amalia. I think I remember someone saying early on that there was no Isabel.

OT-I started watching Triunfo de Amor with high hopes and was let down with a big thud. I ended up watching occasionally to keep up with Sweet William.

Now I see that the original Carla Estrada production El Privilegio de Amar is being rebroadcast in the mornings on Telemundo and have started watching it.

It only took 4 episodes of comparison to realize what a "good" production, cast, direction, etc. is made up of. If you have OnDemand, you can catch up (that is if you like Adela Noriega, Helena Rojo, Cesar Evora and a really skinny, young Rene Stickler and it was only 1998). Carla used young actors to portray the young priest Juan de la Cruz and Luciana, which makes much more sense).
 

Decie Girl, you are not alone in thinking that it would be waaay out there if the Isa kid was a child of a Mirna/Concho union. In fact, how horrible if this were true!

I have a feeling that Isa is going to be a loose end that won't be tied up.

Anita, that Telemundo replay of the original "Triunfo" sounds very interesting. I think I am going to check it out.

Anon207, thanks for your list of what we do know about Concho. Mirna was making it sound like there were some very bad hidden things about him. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Fatima
 

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