Thursday, October 03, 2013
Corazon Indomable #102
Eli is unable to do the recap. I'm posting bullet points for her instead. Feel free to add whatever is missing in the comments.
Cathyx
Simona tells Octavio of the bribe and the letter to get Miguel off the hook for the murder.
JA is willing to take what he can get from MC and he won't call it stealing.
Octavio tells Miguel about the letter, the lawyer, and two good witnesses that will get him off. (the brother and Awfulia) Octavio says he is willing to take one for the team by putting out even more to pay Simona back the ransom money.
JA is taking workers from the housing project to build his own house and MC doesn't like it.
Octavio displays his great negotiating skills and talks Navario into still paying him $20,000 to write the letter.
MC asks Juanita who has only just met JA if he seems to have changed. MC finally calls Tobias and Solita to come to the ranch.
Narvario recommends to JA that he should steal from MC since he's her trusted man. JA tells him he would never do that, then thought bubbles as to how Narvario figured out that he actually is stealing from her and wonders if Eusebio was stealing from Miguel who never could make money from the ranch.
MC arrives at the ranch with Solita and yes, the monkey, but no Tobias. No one knows how to sign, but Solita learned how to figure out what they say when all they do is point. Santa thought bubbles that Solita's baby looks just like Ewsebio.
Octavio leaves to see the lawyer, Simona is untrusting of him. He tells her he loves her after she insists he tell her, she closes her eyes for a kiss, he slo mo comes in and at the last minute, kisses her on the cheek, lol. He leaves and she follows, certain that he's going to see MC.
JA wants to get rich so MC will notice him. Except he's getting rich from MC's money so she will notice him, but not in a good way.
Nice scene with JA seeing Solita and they hug. He picks up the unnamed baby and Santa asks him who he thinks the baby looks like. Santa proves she's the only one with a brain on this show and asks what will happen when Solita runs into Navario.
Octavio runs into MC to buy a toy. MC reminds him that Lupita has a party in a couple of days. After a long argument about the same crap, she asks him to have lunch with her and flashes the magic dimples. Of course he says yes.
It's dark out and Simona is nervously pacing because Octavio hasn't come home yet. That must have been a very long lunch. Miguel notices and tries to calm her down. She didn't follow Octavio after all.
JA tells Ester that Solita is back with a baby. That she was raped by a guy who's now dead.
Octavio comes home and Simona spies lipstick on his shirt once again, hahaha.
MC also comes home late to a worried Santa and Juanita. She tells her she ran into an old friend and they got to talking. But she thought bubbles her lunch, and they actually got to kissing, no talking, hahaha.
Cathyx
Simona tells Octavio of the bribe and the letter to get Miguel off the hook for the murder.
JA is willing to take what he can get from MC and he won't call it stealing.
Octavio tells Miguel about the letter, the lawyer, and two good witnesses that will get him off. (the brother and Awfulia) Octavio says he is willing to take one for the team by putting out even more to pay Simona back the ransom money.
JA is taking workers from the housing project to build his own house and MC doesn't like it.
Octavio displays his great negotiating skills and talks Navario into still paying him $20,000 to write the letter.
MC asks Juanita who has only just met JA if he seems to have changed. MC finally calls Tobias and Solita to come to the ranch.
Narvario recommends to JA that he should steal from MC since he's her trusted man. JA tells him he would never do that, then thought bubbles as to how Narvario figured out that he actually is stealing from her and wonders if Eusebio was stealing from Miguel who never could make money from the ranch.
MC arrives at the ranch with Solita and yes, the monkey, but no Tobias. No one knows how to sign, but Solita learned how to figure out what they say when all they do is point. Santa thought bubbles that Solita's baby looks just like Ewsebio.
Octavio leaves to see the lawyer, Simona is untrusting of him. He tells her he loves her after she insists he tell her, she closes her eyes for a kiss, he slo mo comes in and at the last minute, kisses her on the cheek, lol. He leaves and she follows, certain that he's going to see MC.
JA wants to get rich so MC will notice him. Except he's getting rich from MC's money so she will notice him, but not in a good way.
Nice scene with JA seeing Solita and they hug. He picks up the unnamed baby and Santa asks him who he thinks the baby looks like. Santa proves she's the only one with a brain on this show and asks what will happen when Solita runs into Navario.
Octavio runs into MC to buy a toy. MC reminds him that Lupita has a party in a couple of days. After a long argument about the same crap, she asks him to have lunch with her and flashes the magic dimples. Of course he says yes.
It's dark out and Simona is nervously pacing because Octavio hasn't come home yet. That must have been a very long lunch. Miguel notices and tries to calm her down. She didn't follow Octavio after all.
JA tells Ester that Solita is back with a baby. That she was raped by a guy who's now dead.
Octavio comes home and Simona spies lipstick on his shirt once again, hahaha.
MC also comes home late to a worried Santa and Juanita. She tells her she ran into an old friend and they got to talking. But she thought bubbles her lunch, and they actually got to kissing, no talking, hahaha.
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CathyX:
Thanks, you did a great job with just highlightS! Even got a few good zingers in, too! I just cannot believe that all they spent their time in the empty cornfield doing was kissing, despite Tav's swearing he'd never cheat on Salmona. I mean just what does he figure smooching and getting in a few feelies is, anyway? I dunno if they cut a roll in the hay or something out, but I understand they cut out a sex scene that was supposedly a dream while he was delerious with Diptheria. I sort of half expect MC to get preggers as the final proof Salmona needs that he's 2 timing her.
Thanks, you did a great job with just highlightS! Even got a few good zingers in, too! I just cannot believe that all they spent their time in the empty cornfield doing was kissing, despite Tav's swearing he'd never cheat on Salmona. I mean just what does he figure smooching and getting in a few feelies is, anyway? I dunno if they cut a roll in the hay or something out, but I understand they cut out a sex scene that was supposedly a dream while he was delerious with Diptheria. I sort of half expect MC to get preggers as the final proof Salmona needs that he's 2 timing her.
Jardinera, the version I saw just ended the episode of them kissing. I never saw sex, or a dream, or any of that. If MC wants to get back at Octavio and Simona, she should sleep with him and get pregnant.
Jardinera654, no. they didnt cut sex scene. You can see it here. But you should stop waching after it if you don't want to see spoilers.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15eg46_corazon-indomable-mejor-escena-romantica_shortfilms
I don't think, that MC and Octavio will spend some time together in bed. I think, that MC respects herself and wont become a lover.
Lovw-scenes are important to this show, because people like the couple. But he is married and all this looks bad.
Alegria
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15eg46_corazon-indomable-mejor-escena-romantica_shortfilms
I don't think, that MC and Octavio will spend some time together in bed. I think, that MC respects herself and wont become a lover.
Lovw-scenes are important to this show, because people like the couple. But he is married and all this looks bad.
Alegria
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: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 10:53:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 10:53:00 AM EDT
Cathyx- Thanks for filling in. The bullets were perfect and captured the important points.
The monkey finally gets to return home and to his trees. I'm sure he is very happy now.
I was so glad to see Santa thinking about what it means for Solita to be back in the place of her rape, and to be near the man who looks exactly like her rapist. Mari doesn't even know that Solita's rapist is dead. For all she knows, it could be JA! And she didn't take the time to find out who the bastard is and if he would have easy access to Solita once she returns. Arrgg! This storyline makes me so mad. Santa better tell Mari.
The monkey finally gets to return home and to his trees. I'm sure he is very happy now.
I was so glad to see Santa thinking about what it means for Solita to be back in the place of her rape, and to be near the man who looks exactly like her rapist. Mari doesn't even know that Solita's rapist is dead. For all she knows, it could be JA! And she didn't take the time to find out who the bastard is and if he would have easy access to Solita once she returns. Arrgg! This storyline makes me so mad. Santa better tell Mari.
thanks for getting us started this morning.
I know that I've been howling about getting the monkey back, but I guess I forgot how nasty and stinky he looks. Oh well, good to see him, Solita, and unnamed kid again.
I had to laugh when Maricruz told Juanita that she was going to call and talk to Solita... I'm sure that she meant via Tobias, but it struck me as funny,anyway.
I wasn't paying attention closely, but I thought that Nazario was asking for 300 thousand pesos, but I'm not certain of that. Love how Octavio negotiated him to the price he was asking... at least it didn't end up being more.
Carlos
I know that I've been howling about getting the monkey back, but I guess I forgot how nasty and stinky he looks. Oh well, good to see him, Solita, and unnamed kid again.
I had to laugh when Maricruz told Juanita that she was going to call and talk to Solita... I'm sure that she meant via Tobias, but it struck me as funny,anyway.
I wasn't paying attention closely, but I thought that Nazario was asking for 300 thousand pesos, but I'm not certain of that. Love how Octavio negotiated him to the price he was asking... at least it didn't end up being more.
Carlos
Maybe Tav should take the time to wipe the makeup off Mari's face before they begin playing their daily game of tongue hockey, so that there aren't any traces of makeup on his shirt.
When Simona hugged Octavio and she noticed the lipstick, she did something with her fingers like it was on his shirt so thickly that she smeared it in her hand and it made her fingers red. Did anyone else notice that?
Vivi, I hate to suspect Maricruz of being anything but an innocent sweetie, but I think she may be purposely marking her territory for Simona's benefit.
Carlos
Carlos
Carlos- I don't doubt Mari is quite aware of what she's leaving behind, and the effect. It's Tav who needs to get a clue.
CathyX--In a pinch? This was about as good a coverage as I would expect from a full-sized recap. And a good one, too.
I've been watching this with one eye open and the other doing something else.
But here goes...
It's not Lupita's birthday, she's being baptized. But I still chuckle mercilessly at the difference in size between her and Mini-Miguel. They are only a few months apart but he's at least 20 months old when we see him (and he was walking when his accident happened).
I expected to see Tobias, too, but I guess someone has to watch the homeplace. He was the moderating voice and MC listened to him.
My take on MC--and probably to a certain extent, everyone here. It's not vengeance; it's supreme selfishness. If she truly loves Solita, she would have made sure everyone back at the manse learned sign language, including herself, gotten her a teacher and some decent clothes. [OTOH, the Nazario thing is probably why she hasn't been taught to communicate...we need some more sturm und drang.]
Now that she has money, she has also become one of those who thinks money equals power, while money can solve all problems. Her power seems to be concentrated in her manipulation of the men in her life, Octo, JA, Miguel (and of those earlier incarnations on Isla Dorada) and the women who are linked to them--Doris, Simona, Ester and Lucia (--gee I miss Doris. I hope she comes to the ranch for a visit.)
About Ewwusebio. If he was stealing from Miguel all those years, why was he still a clod, hanging around the stables and ordering people around. I don't think he was really so smart as to lay up his stolen goods for when he retired.
Can you tell I'm DONE with QBA?
I've been watching this with one eye open and the other doing something else.
But here goes...
It's not Lupita's birthday, she's being baptized. But I still chuckle mercilessly at the difference in size between her and Mini-Miguel. They are only a few months apart but he's at least 20 months old when we see him (and he was walking when his accident happened).
I expected to see Tobias, too, but I guess someone has to watch the homeplace. He was the moderating voice and MC listened to him.
My take on MC--and probably to a certain extent, everyone here. It's not vengeance; it's supreme selfishness. If she truly loves Solita, she would have made sure everyone back at the manse learned sign language, including herself, gotten her a teacher and some decent clothes. [OTOH, the Nazario thing is probably why she hasn't been taught to communicate...we need some more sturm und drang.]
Now that she has money, she has also become one of those who thinks money equals power, while money can solve all problems. Her power seems to be concentrated in her manipulation of the men in her life, Octo, JA, Miguel (and of those earlier incarnations on Isla Dorada) and the women who are linked to them--Doris, Simona, Ester and Lucia (--gee I miss Doris. I hope she comes to the ranch for a visit.)
About Ewwusebio. If he was stealing from Miguel all those years, why was he still a clod, hanging around the stables and ordering people around. I don't think he was really so smart as to lay up his stolen goods for when he retired.
Can you tell I'm DONE with QBA?
CathyX--It looked more like a hair Simona was pulling off--we sure did get a long longlasting screen shot of her trying to get it off her fingers.
Carlos, I think 300,000 pesos was the amount but in the English closed captions they convert it to 20,000 dollars. Great job, CathyX. I laughed when you brought out the fact that Juanita had just met JA yet MC asked her if she thought he had changed! That idiocy had passed over my head until you mentioned it.
@CathyX - I was drinking coffee while reading your excellent mini-recap, and this perfect line almost made me spit it out: "Octavio says he is willing to take one for the team by putting out even more to pay Simona back the ransom money."
Cathyx, thanks for the great recap. You covered it all.
Too bad Miguel and Simona could not have married. They would have made the perfect "middle aged " couple.
So glad the mooonkey is back on the rancho where he belongs.
Jarifa
Too bad Miguel and Simona could not have married. They would have made the perfect "middle aged " couple.
So glad the mooonkey is back on the rancho where he belongs.
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
Many many thanks CathyX. I love bullet point recaps. They keep me up to date...and so efficiently too! You did a great job.
Ok, I've changed the bribe amount and the fact that it wan't a birthday party.
No problem Eli, I wish I could write a recap with just brief bullet points every time I recap.
No problem Eli, I wish I could write a recap with just brief bullet points every time I recap.
Thanks for filling in Cathy---I hope that CeCe will be back soon.
We are thankful that you were able to step in.
You made me smile when you wrote---
She asks him to lunch and flashes the magic dimples---I ask, How can anybody turn down magic dimples? Even $imona's new hairdo is no match or competition for magic dimples.
It was good to see Solita and the monkey again. [forgot the monkeys name] Tobias is going to get lonely down at the big house.
Yes, $imona did rub her fingers together, didn't see any red or pink lipstick on them though. Maybe we were supposed to imagine that there was.
Jack Ass---I sure don't like the direction he has been heading in lately. He has been friends with Maricruz for a long time and not that she has money??? Come on JA, snap out of it. Mari needs to lay down the law and makes sure that he understands it. She's trying to do good works and help the poor people in her area and he/JA is now trying to take all he can get from her, maybe even dishonestly. I'm really disappointed in this guy---it doesn't look like Ester is improving very much either.
So what is the deal now? Miguel is going to get some people to lie for him? No he wasn't there, he was with me kind of a thing? With $imona's money, they could buy a lot of eye witnesses.
So now the advances show JA ruining
Lupita's party. What has come over this guy? He never went to school but he thinks he should be rich too? Is he developing a hatred for rich people?
the gringo
We are thankful that you were able to step in.
You made me smile when you wrote---
She asks him to lunch and flashes the magic dimples---I ask, How can anybody turn down magic dimples? Even $imona's new hairdo is no match or competition for magic dimples.
It was good to see Solita and the monkey again. [forgot the monkeys name] Tobias is going to get lonely down at the big house.
Yes, $imona did rub her fingers together, didn't see any red or pink lipstick on them though. Maybe we were supposed to imagine that there was.
Jack Ass---I sure don't like the direction he has been heading in lately. He has been friends with Maricruz for a long time and not that she has money??? Come on JA, snap out of it. Mari needs to lay down the law and makes sure that he understands it. She's trying to do good works and help the poor people in her area and he/JA is now trying to take all he can get from her, maybe even dishonestly. I'm really disappointed in this guy---it doesn't look like Ester is improving very much either.
So what is the deal now? Miguel is going to get some people to lie for him? No he wasn't there, he was with me kind of a thing? With $imona's money, they could buy a lot of eye witnesses.
So now the advances show JA ruining
Lupita's party. What has come over this guy? He never went to school but he thinks he should be rich too? Is he developing a hatred for rich people?
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
Gringo- The witnesses are character witnesses. They are not being paid to say that Miguel shot Ewsebio. That is a fact no one is denying. Awfelia, for example, is going to testify to the bad character of Ewsebio, and that he would definitely have tried to rape Lucia. That's why Tav also wanted Mari to be a character witness, since she had been on the receiving end of Ewsebio's nastiness many times.
I ment thank you for helping out for Eli not CeCe---well it's Monday, er Thursday. It feels like Monday.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
I posted these comments early this morning on the comment section for episode #101 in response to other comments there, but I thought it would be a good idea to put them here too:
@La Paloma - Jackass, er, Jose Antonio was a villain in every single version of this novela; they softened him up a bit in the Marimar version, but they just made him extra evil in this one. That's why I disliked him from the very beginning of C.I. Maybe because I knew what was coming, I just didn't get why any viewers thought he was so great at the beginning.
@Cathyx - I mentioned in one of my recaps (it was either #80 or #90, I forget) that Realengo doesn't mean "freelands", as some translated it, but rather "King's lands", meaning they are owned by the government. Maybe someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think private companies are permitted to exploit mineral rights under special contracts with the government. In C.I. it's a private company searching for the gold, but they went through the government to get the exploitation rights, so the guy trying to pay off the Realengo squatters was actually a government official; they didn't make that clear in the first episode he appeared, but I hope it's not a spoiler to say that will become clear soon.
As for minerals found on private land, well let's wait and see how that plays out on C.I.; any characters saying they can get rich if there's gold on their land (or former lands) is just expressing his or her ignorance of the law.
@La Paloma - Jackass, er, Jose Antonio was a villain in every single version of this novela; they softened him up a bit in the Marimar version, but they just made him extra evil in this one. That's why I disliked him from the very beginning of C.I. Maybe because I knew what was coming, I just didn't get why any viewers thought he was so great at the beginning.
@Cathyx - I mentioned in one of my recaps (it was either #80 or #90, I forget) that Realengo doesn't mean "freelands", as some translated it, but rather "King's lands", meaning they are owned by the government. Maybe someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think private companies are permitted to exploit mineral rights under special contracts with the government. In C.I. it's a private company searching for the gold, but they went through the government to get the exploitation rights, so the guy trying to pay off the Realengo squatters was actually a government official; they didn't make that clear in the first episode he appeared, but I hope it's not a spoiler to say that will become clear soon.
As for minerals found on private land, well let's wait and see how that plays out on C.I.; any characters saying they can get rich if there's gold on their land (or former lands) is just expressing his or her ignorance of the law.
Here is a real life Realengo in Panama
http://www.panamaamerica.com.pa/notas/415957-familias-de-el-realengo-deben-trasladarse-a-otras-tierras
Great comment about Oct's lack of negotiating ability. Do the writers have disdain for him as well? Not just us.
http://www.panamaamerica.com.pa/notas/415957-familias-de-el-realengo-deben-trasladarse-a-otras-tierras
Great comment about Oct's lack of negotiating ability. Do the writers have disdain for him as well? Not just us.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 3:07:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 3:07:00 PM EDT
LatinainMD: Regarding minerals on the land, does that mean if they find it on MA's land they can just kick her off without recompense? I could see Simona and Miguel on their hands and knees burying nuggets!
Cathyx, thanks for the recap which covered all the bases for us. You gave us some good laughs, too.
LatinaInMD, thanks for the JA info from previous versions of this TN. He used to seem neutral to me, but he was always a good friend to MC. Now that he wants to be a rich man, he's able to ignore any obligation he has to MC.
LatinaInMD, thanks for the JA info from previous versions of this TN. He used to seem neutral to me, but he was always a good friend to MC. Now that he wants to be a rich man, he's able to ignore any obligation he has to MC.
O apologize for a glaring mistake yesterday. I thought it was Lupita's 1st bday. It's her baptismal party then. At any rate if I were MC now rich, I would really throw a grande party why not. And I would really want her father to be present too. I don't think it's part of a venganza plan. Now about her venganza against Octavio why that's really the heart of this novella isn't it
? like "Revenge".
As for Solita being taught the sign language, It was Don Ale I think that started their education. MC was too ignorant to think about their education yet. I remember Don Ale saying D_First you and then Solita to be educated by Tobias. It is only now that the two sisters are getting back together ever since.I think she will come to that sign language as the dust settles down.
And for my mantra, Frankly, Awfelia can go to hell.
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? like "Revenge".
As for Solita being taught the sign language, It was Don Ale I think that started their education. MC was too ignorant to think about their education yet. I remember Don Ale saying D_First you and then Solita to be educated by Tobias. It is only now that the two sisters are getting back together ever since.I think she will come to that sign language as the dust settles down.
And for my mantra, Frankly, Awfelia can go to hell.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 11:48:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 11:48:00 PM EDT
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