Saturday, November 30, 2013
Corazon Indomable :146 - Scandals, Vengeance and Jealousy: It’s a busy day in C.I
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Good work, Cece.
I am thoroughly frustrated with the insanity that this series has become. With only 15 episodes left I can;t see how -- short of a supernatural event -- Maricruz and Octavio could end up together.
Jarifa
So we have an idiotic investigation over a no name artist's stolen painting. If MC turns Al in for stealing the other painter's painting how does that implicate MC? I hope the crazy sick painter kills Al. It would put me out of my misery.
And why is getting ones portrait painted so scandalous? Why is being alone in an artist's studio suggest that they are having an affair? Maybe if the painting was of a nude MC I could get the connection, but this is estupido.
Has anyone ever seen the original series of The Forsyte Saga? In a few of the later episodes one of the characters gets a modeling job for a working class woman with an unemployed husband. She ends up posing nude for an artist on the rise. The painting doesn't show anything more than a quarter-view of her butt; the husband is still suspicious when he sees the painting in the gallery.
By this time the wife had posed for other artists and was making more money than the husband had before (because posing nude paid 50% better in Edwardian London than posing clothed).
Keep in mind that an artist with any talent at figure drawing/painting can look at a clothed person and determine what the nude body looks like, so whoever will paint Maricruz nude without her cooperation is likely to get it right. That will send Octavio off the rails.
Poor MC - two guys get mad at each other, but somehow she's the one who bears the brunt of any "revenge".
Anytime MC is mad at him (for whatever reason), Tav decides his best option is to get engaged to another woman. Not only that - but every time he gets engaged to another woman he says goodbye to his daughter as if he will never see her again.
Cathyx - apparently any "respectable" woman would not pose an artist with such a terrible womanizer reputation no matter how innocent the pose. She is "sullied" by any such connection and even visiting his studio. Very old-fashioned thinking, but that is what much of this TN - and certainly most of Tav's outrageous protests - are based on.
Of course, MC knew this and posed anyway out of spite because she was mad at Tav. That was her "revenge" after seeing him with a drunken Doris.
All hell will break loose now that a picture of MC nude is hanging in the gallery. No matter that it was out of the artist's imagination and that he is the villain causing trouble for MC - she must have posed for it - that's as good a photographic evidence!
And poor MC out a job again. Can Tav taking Lupita again because "MC has low morals and out of economic desperation might prostitute herself" be far behind? Ugh!
It's just disgusting.
They did create a great villain out of Fonzie though. Of all the people torturing and driving MC and Tav apart throughout the TN, he is the best.
UA, I can't let this statement pass without comment:
"Keep in mind that an artist with any talent at figure drawing/painting can look at a clothed person and determine what the nude body looks like, so whoever will paint Maricruz nude without her cooperation is likely to get it right."
Perhaps an anatomically correct nude body with approximate correct proportions, but there are aspects of each individual body that must be seen to be accurately captured... that includes both males and females.
Now Octavio has a pretty good idea of what Maricruz looks like nude (OK, OK, I realize that he couldn't even distinguish between Maricruz and Maria Alejandra) and Alfonso is only guessing so when he sees the painting Octavio should be able to spot that Alfy faked it.
If they'd give us a clear look at this painting, anyone who's seen the movie Divina Confusión could see how close Alfonso has come to getting it right.
Now Maricruz could easily prove Alfonso's fraud but to do so, she'll have to display the proof of his deception which of course defeat her original intent to preserve her privacy.
This could get interesting after all.
Carlos
I think the silly shuffle on the "dual episodes" may be to tie the "exciting and scandalous MariCruz desnuda" episode into the opening of "Por Siempre Mi Amor". Make sure everyone's watching and suck them into the new TN.
La those writers are sloppy, LOL!
Carlos
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Carlos,
me...exasperation?? Never...I did think Lupita looked a little different. I blamed it on the change of hairstyle. Or maybe its lighting...who knows.
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Susanlynn,
Anyone is better than Tav....like anyone. Ok well maybe not Alonso...and Miguel was useless (RIP). I also didnt get the big deal about the painting...secret police?? Hmmm
Audrey,
"they are setting up a sweet anvil for Fonzie with that underage jilted and bitter young woman bent on revenge even though she "loves him"." Ojala!!
Cathyx,
"Too bad I can never say that about this show."
For a minute there you had me fooled. I almost rechecked to see if I watched the right advances. All jokes aside...it will be interesting to see the fallout. These characters (except for Juanita) are all emotional driven with no logic.
Carlos
"Alfonso is only guessing so when he sees the painting Octavio should be able to spot that Alfy faked it."
This is Tav we are talking about here. I do not put anything past him anymore.
From what I could see of amplified portrait, I didn't spot any breathtaking talent, but then I was underwhelmed by Aníbal's painting.
"This is Tav we are talking about here."
Yes, I realize that, I was speaking more or less generically.
So, we're looking at daycare for Lupita? Hmmm...
Solita will be back? I didn't see that. I'm thrilled. Let me guess... she's probably become a voice coach by now.
By the way, I spotted Tobías hanging out at the new show LQLVMR... he's joined the Coast Guard and has become a bit of a jerk.
Carlos
Lila
I can't generate enough interest to watch the episodes, but now I'm curious to see what Lupita looks like and the Solita preview. I'd also like to see the paintings. I may just watch in ff mode.
However, Octavio is no rocket scientist either. And both he and Maricruz have become so stupid I can't care about them anymore.
I do not blame you. I was shocked to see Solita in the previews. Perhaps since MC has no place to go she will crash with Solita and her mom.
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UA,
Ditto! I dont care about their relationship any longer. I think I will roll my eyes when they get back together because at this point I do not see how the writers will write a believable solution.
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Lila,
Fortunately, I have watched novelas that have generally been very good. The only novela I know (and I have not watched many either) where the couple spent most of the time apart was CCEA. For whatever reason, I enjoyed that way more than this one.
I consider the fact that this TN will end in three weeks as my personal Christmas gift. And I will celebrate the end. (As I weep for lost hopes.) I recently bought a small sock monkey, and it will celebrate with me. So, whatever happens, there will be an end to the misery and there will be a monkey.
One of the reasons you may have enjoyed CCEA more than CI may have been William Levy - que no?
I know everyone has talked about this hotel room they are living in is odd, but this episode really drove that point home since they were in it a lot. There are people outside of it sitting, eating, conversing, walking past on their phones while MC and Juanita are in the room talking and living all with the curtains open. No one outside is even bothering to look in at them, which I couldn't help myself from doing if I were there. And there's a bed right in the living room where Lupita sleeps, again with the curtains open and MC and Juanita talking.
Do they have rooms like this in Mexico? Is this a common setup?
And no sweet romance between leads. What a shame. I was told that it's Natalie style. So no more Natalie novelas for me.
Alegria
I will be celebrating right along with you...sock monkey...hahaha. As sad as it is to have lost the monkey...even it knew that it was staring in a train wreck and left before it got worse. Lol.
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Anon
Of course you are right. I really like Levy. I think his best will be Sortilegio. I didnt watch TDA...minus LT, I try to avoid Mieja novelas.
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Cathyx,
I thought it was so weird having the ppl outside right out there room. It looks like a studio apartment where everything is in one room but its still strange.
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Alegria,
I think that is one of the problems with this TN. It seemed like it was Copy & Paste. They really should have tried to modernize this and cut it down to less than 100 episodes. For Example, I recently saw Amor Real and thus far I am really liking there modernization of it (thus far). The themes are familiar but updated.
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Natalie is supposedly remaking another Mari___ novela. I too will be running in another direction. I really hope there are no protaganistas in that that I like.
Things are moving right along. Tav went into out of control mode over Mari's painting, he still loves her. Doris might have him now but that won't be for long.
So Alfie might get done in by his past girlfriend. Wouldn't that be interesting?
Picky, picky, picky---Is it the local police, the state police, the federal police or the secret police??? IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!
There was an art exhibit and a painting was stolen. The police are investigating---THAT'S IT!!!
Good grief, it's no wonder you guys don't like CI, you're too busy trying to pick it apart.
The hotel room again. It's obvious that there is one way glass. You can see out but no one can see in.
Solita? Funny thing, I have been thinking for a couple of episodes now that Solita would be back and when she comes back, she will both be able to hear and speak. I didn't see her in the advances but some of you did so maybe Monday will be double interesting
Will Tav figure out that the painting is a fake? My guess is that he will not. One Cell probably will let his emotions take over the one brain cell that he has. MY WIFE!!! THE MOTHER OF MY DAUGHTER DID THAT??? NOW IT's WAR!!!
Monday will be VERY GOOD, so Cathyx---I will say it for you.
I CAN'T WAIT--I CAN'T WAIT--I CAN'T WAIT!!
the gringo
In fact, I'm going to find an explanation for everything that seems odd to me, like you did with the apartment where there are windows where people seem to be able to watch inside the apartment. 1 way glass, I love it.
On planet Bizzaro, MC will find another job where she doesn't have to actually work, or she'll make up with Octavio. And Solita will come back hearing and talking like she could have if she could hear her whole life. And even teach speech therapy, like Carlos suggested.
Your enthusiasm for this show never ceases to amaze me. Life would be so much easier if I had that much enthusiasm for things that are not to my liking.
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Vivi and Cathyx,
Your stories already sound way more intriguing than what we are working with.
I once showed a well educated lady a very important article or maybe it was a chapter in a book.
I don't remember it was sometime back. But I do remember that the questions began to fly. Who wrote this, why did they write it, when did they write this, where was it written, and on, and on, and on. The message was so plain to understand but this lady with her university degree couldn't see the forest through the trees. I said, forget about all of those questions and just concentrate on what is being said---she never got it. The well educated lady, a manager, was so busy trying to pick it apart and analyze it that even though trees were all around her, she continued to search for the forest.
Cathyx---Vivi That's all that I was trying to say. I don't try to pick apart every little thing---why did he do/say that? Why did she do/say that? It's a interesting, exciting story. I don't try to analyze every little bit and piece of it, I just go with the flow and right now the flow is rough for both Tav and Mari but I know that it will smooth out soon and until that happens, I CAN'T WAIT.
the gringo
CeCe, I loved the following observations:
"Before going to work MC comes home to dump her latest load onto Juanita." LOL!
"Mother and Son, Blind leading the Blind" Oh yea, tell it like it is.
"Juanita flexes her philosophical muscles throughout this conversation." Now if "someone" would only listen.
Gringo, It was Carlos who concluded that there must be one way glass in the doors.
OK, the last 6 comments made me laugh and laugh. Gringo, you are a treasure…..
Barbara
Gringo, I am still waiting for the silver lining of this tn.
I'm a sucker for love stories how ever dismal the ending could be. But I love MC's character and her one-man love of her life no matter how indomable she could be. I prefer her than the character Maite Peroni)( is it also Mari?) in CCEA who was as unforgiving and stubborn as can be. Also that of Val(Lucero)of STUD who went crazy as to be an arsonist burning their love house. There, I am defending MC and her pure and generous heart. Bless her.
And last of all, Can't also wait for the show's happy ending.
Yes of course I am frustrated the way CI was written(like too Victorian) but I think for me, CDL and QBA were far more worst TNs than this and to have CDL actors be award winners were for me amazing.
So there, Gringo, I too can't wait for the next chapter or episode. I only watch it for MC and Lupita and also Juanita.
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Cathyx/Gringo:
"No hotel would rent out a room where people eating right on the other side of the window could look in on you." With all due respect, ask a traveling sales rep about those rooms looking out onto public fare-ways. They do, in fact, exist in any number of motels and hotels, and the window is two-way--very much so. It's depressing, amigo, but it's the life. The names and locations have been [omitted] to protect the innocent..... =/; ? (
So, 15 episodes left, 3 weeks to go, that means 1 episode a day, right?
The recappers pulling double duty with this mess are worthy of all my appreciation.
How can Tav and MC get their happy ending when now they seem so far apart? Well, the less logic it makes, the more I know it WILL happen.
I agree Vida2, and also with what you pointed out about STUD and CCEA. CCEA had some very stupid and crazy stuff in it. I couldn't watch the whole thing, either the first time or on the repeat. I also got very frustrated with the lovers on STUD.
Our sweethearts now have such a pattern of bad behavior toward each other, I fear for their future happiness after a reunion.
technology. It was on this mornings news also. It seems that in the future, if you want your package pronto, Amazon will be able to deliver it to you by a little drone helicopter. When my wife saw it, the questions started
What if the box is bigger? What if the drone crashes? What if the drone takes the package to the wrong doorstep? On and on. Just like the stolen painting in CI---
Who, how, what, where, when? Which police dept.? Etc. It's the future, it's going to happen. The painting, Tav stole the painting.
How, when, where, doesn't matter.
He did it. The big question now is
what will happen when he sees or finds out about the nude painting?
OMG!!! I can't wait.
Jardinera654---WOW!! I can't believe that there are hotel rooms like that but as you say that it's true, I'll take another room, thank you very much.
Vida2---I love Mari's character also. She's a GOOD PERSON with a kind and generous heart. Yes I know she has made mistakes---she should have done this, she shouldn't have done that, BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! I've had to put up with the "I can't take this any more crowd" for a long time now---
I don't care, let them cry and complain. Like you, I'm in Mari's camp and I CAN'T WAIT for her happiness. I know that it will come and until it does, I won't miss even one minute.
Did I say---I LOVE THIS SHOW?
the gringo
How did Octavio get that painting out without anyone noticing? Who cares. Those details don't matter.
What happened to Miguelito? On planet Bizarro, children can take care of themselves.
Nice to see Tav go off the emotional deep end for once while destroying MC's picture.
Can't wait for the Solita sighting! If she can hear, well that I would believe because she could have had an operation in this amount of time. But if she can speak! Well that will be too much--even for this show.
LOL. Great answers. I didn't even ask those logical questions anymore. My brain has been conditioned to turn off when this show is on.
Carvivlie,
I too am excited for the Solita sighting. I hope that she can hear or at least can communicate through sign language. I thought she started getting lessons way back when they lived in the mansion
Cathyx- Great responses to the questions. Bizarro planet rules are in play, which means that anything is possible and logic has no place.
Gringo- Really, you can't guess how Tav is going to react? If nothing else, this tn is great at repeating our protagonists' rash acts and bad choices.
The ONLY mystery is whether or not Solita will be able to hear and speak. THAT, I'm looking forward to seeing.
MC and Tav will continue with their rollercoaster relationship silliness, until the last episode, when, yes Gringo, they will realize their love, kiss, have a big wedding, and live happily ever after (apparently). I am not worried in the least about that particular plot point.
For those in the fun dept. I have not seen a novela yet that answered all of the questions that people might and do have. Think of it like a puzzle, just put the pieces together and use your imagination. It's easy. You guys didn't know that Tav was a good thief did you? LOL.
the gringo
Tonight will really be good.
My money is on that Solita will be both hearing and speaking when we see her next.
Does anyone know if Maricruz could sue over the fake nude painting? Mari wins millions in court and is rich once again. I know that I am wishing for too much. Well, it was a thought at least.
the gringo
Tonight will really be good.
My money is on that Solita will be both hearing and speaking when we see her next.
Does anyone know if Maricruz could sue over the fake nude painting? Mari wins millions in court and is rich once again. I know that I am wishing for too much. Well, it was a thought at least.
the gringo
"Does anyone know if Maricruz could sue over the fake nude painting?"
Oh, I so hope that she does. Of course to prove her case she'd have to display her goodies in open court. Then he could counter that it doesn't really look like her because he is such a bad artist. Then assuming that she wins will she collect from Alfonso who is currently broke? I suppose that he could sell Liberación for over a million pesos, but then Aníbal might speak up... I see a good three weeks for all this if she sues, so I'm going to guess that she probably won't.
Carlos
Also, those drones have generated a lot of publicity, haven't they? I don't think the timing is coincidental.
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