Thursday, May 15, 2014

De Que Te Quiero Te Quiero #52 and #53, 5/15/14

De que volvieron otra vez, volvieron otra vez! 

Alonso, who has been acting rather stupid lately, recovers enough brain cells to figure out that Nat’s crazy reaction, plus Andres’ attitude, plus Diana’s comment about Diego being a rapist, means that Nat must have been attacked by Rod, and defended by Andres! Damn! That must be some pretty high quality coffee Karina gave him. The truth is finally out! Hallelujah!  

How does Diego react? He can’t believe it. No way is his brother Rod a rapist (has he met his brother?), and no way would Nat’s family accept him if they thought he was a rapist (he has a point there). Nope, the only problem Nat has with me is my Diana problem. So much for the end of the Great Misunderstanding. He tells Al that Diana is coming back to the house tomorrow. Happy times ahead!

Paolo gives Mara a kiss on the cheek at the end of their shift. Aww! Her mom comes and drags her away, accusing Paolo of being the boy who walked her home the other night, and blaming him for causing their problems. Mara denies it and says it was another guy.

Diego joins Irene and Grumps for dinner and tells them Diana’s coming home, but he’s not. He doesn’t want her to get the wrong idea. Grumps is not happy with this and blames that gold-digger, Natalia. He walks off before anyone can tell him Nat neither works for Irene anymore, nor is she Diego’s girlfriend—at least not today.

Abdul walks Nat’s New Age Kiosk friend home, and they flirt. She wonders why he’s never used flirty terms of endearments with her, like he does his other “friends.” He obliges and kisses her on the cheek. After he leaves, she sees her crazy neighbor lady dragging her daughter Mara home, and yelling at her.

The next morning Diego goes to see that faker Rod, and wonders if he would be capable of attempting to rape someone. Rod thoughtbubbles that Diego’s an idiot. The Naughty Nurse, Irma, lies and tells Diego there has been no change. Afterwards, Irma asks Rod who the woman was that Diego was speaking about. Rod lies and switches the story around, telling Irma how Diego was always pretending to be him and was jealous of him, and wants him dead. He even squeezes out a few crocodile tears. The stupid nurse eats it up.

Nat is sad and mopey as everyone else in the house leaves to go about their business of the day. Lupita gives Nat a hug and tells her she can just find another boyfriend. That’s the attitude, Lupita!

Diego’s next stop is Diana’s hospital room to tell her she can return to the manse. Alina seems happy to be relieved of mom duty.

Abdul see that the Crazy Crab has the exact same menu as his mother’s fonda. Hmmmm….I wonder how that happened? The sexy crab girls, the Crabettes, are starting to regret that they left their “night jobs” behind for this grueling early morning work.

Irene visits Tad and tells him about her recent disappointments with Nat and Alonso. They are being unprofessional, and immature. Tad thinks he would react the same way as Alonso. Irene gets weepy while talking about the situation with Al.

At Caprico, the Brat prods Nat for info about why she’s quitting. Nat tells her nothing and continues to pack up her stuff, but then she reminisces about the ideas she had for their first fashion show. The Brat latches on to every detail. I guess we now know what her next big idea presentation to Irene will be. Nat, you are an idiot.

Naughty Nurse gives Rod his physical therapy and helps him take his first steps. She can’t come tomorrow on her day off, since it would look suspicious. Not to worry. He has homework for her—he wants her to investigate what’s been happening at Caprico.

Abdul changes up the fonda’s menu, and then tells Carmen about the duplicate menu at the Crazy Crab. He wonders, could we have a spy? LOL! He admits to having told one of the girls who came the other day about their menu. Carmen’s ready to go kick some crab butt, but Abdul has a better idea. He asks Carmen what’s the worst/least popular dish?

Diego brings Diana home, and she pretends to be a normal human being by thanking him and wishing him a good day. However, she thoughtbubbles about his pain after Nat dies! Before he leaves, he asks why she called him a rapist (violador) the other day. She plays dumb, doesn’t remember saying that, and suggests she was calling him a deceiver/con artist (estafador) in her crazy state. She tries to butter him up and says he’s always been nothing but a gentleman with her.

Tad's design for Irene is not to his liking. His maid visits and he asks her to look up Alonso’s phone number for him.

The Crazy Crab Lady badmouths Carmen’s fonda to a local customer, lying that Carmen’s had multiple health and safety issues like rat and cockroach infestation. The lady customer adds to the gossip-- if it’s true about the infestation, then the reason Carmen hasn’t been shutdown is because she has a (hot) cop friend! Crazy Crab Lady now has the perfect gossip to sink Carmen.

Diego confronts Nat as she’s leaving the office, demanding/begging her to tell him what happened and why she’s leaving and dumped him. He wonders if she had a bad experience with “someone” in the past. She gets weepy, he puts her head on his shoulder, it looks like she’s about to crack and spill the beans, and then…Diego’s phone rings! Arrg!! It’s an update on Diana, and when Nat hears Diana is back in the manse, she takes off. Doh! The Great Misunderstanding lives!

Irene comes back to the office and the Brat doesn’t waste time in talking smack about Nat, which Irene is no longer inclined to doubt, and passing Nat’s big idea off as her own.

Diana transfers money to the Brat’s account and smiles thinking about Nat’s demise. Her happy moment is interrupted first by a sharp pain in her gut, and then by her mother shrieking happily about the new discovery at her dig site. Diana looks like she’s going to hurl and rushes out, cursing the baby to herself. Her mom barely notices Diana’s departure or distress.

Nat goes to see Papa Juancho and tells him she split with Diego after she heard Diana called Diego a rapist. She’s terrified that Diego will change at any moment. She asks if she made the right choice.  She also mentions that she quit her job. Papa Juancho wonders if she was a bit rash. He thinks she either needs to crap, or get off the Diego pot. Not really, but something to that effect. Padre points out that Diego hasn’t had another evil rapist episode, and that we all make mistakes. (Not like that, Padre!) Nat further wonders if he could have been under the influence of a drug. In any case, this talk was just what she needed to justify flip flopping once again. Not only is she going to get back together with Diego, she’s going to show him how much she loves him!

Alonso’s secretary gives him Tad’s number, although she didn’t know who it was. Tad tells Al that he needs to see him to speak about Irene.

The Crabettes come to spy and get intel out of Abdul. He puts his double agent plan into action and tells them about the special plate they’ll be serving tomorrow—the cross-eyed fish (pescado atrevesado). He tells them the convoluted recipe and they take the bait. Abdul reports his success to Carmen.  The Crazy Crab Lady is sure she’ll be able to make this dish better than Carmen.

Diana’s pains continue to get worse, but she puts on a brave face and easily makes an excuse to preoccupied Alina, saying she’s going to see Karina, and leaves the manse.

At the Burger Palace, Paolo asks Mara how things went with her mom. She cries and asks why her mother treats her this way. He tries to hug her, but she shies away in pain. He realizes that her mother beat her again. He apologizes for his part in all this, and they share a very sweet kiss.

Diana has actually gone to see a doctor, who gives her the devastating news that the baby has died and they must do an immediate D&C. She protests, but not because she wants her baby, but because she knows losing the baby means losing Diego for good.

Diego arrives home to Bro Central, and Nat is waiting for him with a gazillion white, pink, and heart-shaped balloons, holding up a banner that asks, “Do you still have that ring?” He gets a goofy grin on his face, almost big enough to match hers, and they embrace and twirl, as the balloons lift the banner up, up, and away. She tells him she was stupid and asks for his forgiveness. He gives it easily. Nat gives us our first (I think) out loud declaration of the telenovela’s title: “De que te quiero, te quiero!” The theme song swells as they smooch. Amor, amor, amor!!!!

Alonso visits Tad, and Tad sets him straight about his very real illness, and that he is not trying to manipulate Irene. She’s supporting him, and he would do the same for her. What they had is in the past. It still seems hard for Al to accept this. Tad tells him he’s being immature, which Al immaturely doesn’t accept. He wishes Tad the best and leaves. Oh Al, I’m so disappointed in you.

Diana had the fastest D&C in history and is walking out of the hospital, baby-free. She thoughtbubbles to herself that “we” need to keep pretending the baby still exists, and about the pleasure “we” are getting knowing Nat will be dead soon. She’s got a super creepy crazy look in her eyes.

Diego puts a ring on it, and tells Nat he loves her and missed her (it’s been like one day, kids). He makes her promise they will never be separated again, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. You know what THAT means. Anyway, before the anvils start to fall, they begin smooching in earnest and make their way down to the couch. Alonso interrupts! But not to worry, he’s heading out again, he says. Too late. The mood is broken. Nat is going home and Diego offers to drive her. Al is happy for them, but has a sad for himself and Irene. That’s entirely your fault, Al.

The Crazy Crab and the Crabettes spend the night making the cross-eyed fish dish. They all think it’s pretty good, but come up with more ingredients to kick it up a notch.

Rod practices walking in his hospital room, with the door locked. He hears the nurse coming and jumps back into bed. Unfortunately, he didn’t unlock the door. The nurse eventually gets a head nurse to unlock the room and complains about all the weird things that have happened in that room, like her jello disappearing, or the creepy smile on Rod’s face. The head nurse tells her she’s imagining things and leaves, just as Rod opens up one eye and scares the bejeezus out of the nurse.

Nat and Diego arrive home while Carmen, Lupita and Abdul are playing a board game. No one bats an eyelash at the news that Nat and Diego are on, yet AGAIN. The Brat arrives home, and wonders if Nat and Diego being a couple again means that Nat is coming back to steal her throne at Caprico. Nat says she has to talk to Irene first, who I hope turns her down flat. Carmen invites Diego to stay for pizza.

Diana arrives home, and she looks bad enough that her mom even notices and asks if she’s well. Diana kicks her out of her room. The Brat calls her to tell Diana that something has gone wrong with the plan—Diego and Nat are back together. Diana tells her to give Nat the whole flask of potion/poison, hangs up, and curls up into a ball on the bed.

Diego’s nurse brings candles, a saints card, and plants to do a spiritual cleanse. He blows out the candle, moves it around when she isn’t looking, and basically messes with the nurse’s head. She runs out yelling that the devil is in the room. She is 100% correct.

Diana, sure that Nat must have ingested the whole flask and be dead by now, texts the Brat for an update. The Brat texts back that she did as she asked, but nothing happened. Diana is sure that the Brat is lying to her (since Nat should be dead).

The next day, the Crazy Crab has their notice up about the cross-eyed fish dish. Abdul passes by and laughs. The Crabettes and the Crab Lady get ready for the day, but one of the Crabettes is ill—the only thing she had to eat was the fish dish… By lunch time, the Crab Lady, the Crabettes, and all their customers are running for the bathroom and causing a foul odor that blows over even passerbys in the street.

Nat calls Irene to set up a meeting—all smiles and expectations that she’ll easily get her job back. Irene is not smiling. Irene wants a guarantee that at the next problem with Diego Nat won’t quit, yet again. Nat apologizes and tells Irene how important she is to her. Irene gives her the talk Debbie Allen gives her students in Fame: “You got big dreams? You want fame? Well fame costs! And right here is where you start paying…in sweat!” Basically, Nat should have thought about it long and hard before she threw this opportunity in the trash, and Irene prefers to hire someone more reliable. She’s not even sure if she wants Nat as a friend anymore. Ouch! It’s hard for her to give people a second chance. Nat cries, apologizes, takes Irene’s hand, and tells her she understands. She leaves and Irene looks moved.

Diana looks much better the day after her D&C, and calls the Brat for a meeting. The Brat is buying an outfit for going dancing with Al and Company. Diana brushes off her mom, who thinks she needs a vacation after putting up with Diana.

Irene is moved enough by Nat’s words to reconsider before Nat has even made it down the stairs of the restaurant. She texts her and tells Nat to just promise her she won’t abruptly quit on her again. Nat runs back into the restaurant. They hug and Nat thanks her and promises not to let her down again.

The Crazy Crab customers and crew are out of commission.  The Crab Lady vows to get back at Carmen. Carmen gets the news from one of her spies. The Crabette spy comes to the fonda to get more updates from Abdul and ends up getting laughed at when he reveals he knows who she is, and that he totally punked her. She leaves angry, and gassy.

The Brat meets Diana in a café, happily showing off what she bought with the money Diana paid her for giving Nat the drops. Knowing the Brat did not live up to her end of the bargain, Diana loses it, rips up the Brat’s new dress, and attacks her! “If you had given it to her, she would have been dead!!” “Qué?!” Diana admits to trying to poison Nat, and warns the Brat to keep her pouty mouth shut, because she now knows what Diana’s capable of!

Nat comes over to Bro Central, and tries to pretend that Irene didn’t take her back, but she’s a crappy liar. Diego figures it out right away and they share goofy grins and smoochies in front of Alonso. Al invites Nat to come dancing with him, Al #2, Karina, the Brat, and Diego. She happily accepts.

The Crab Lady guzzles Pepto and vows revenge when she learns the cross-eyed fish dish was Carmen’s evil plot, to counter her evil plot.

Mara’s mom calls to tell her she will not be picking her up to walk her home. Paolo offers to walk her, but not close enough so that one of her nosey neighbors sees and reports back to her mom. They hug. So sweet.

At Casa Garcia, Diego and Alberto have arrived to pick up Nat and the Brat. Lupita is trying to convince Carmen to let her go out dancing too, but she will have to wait until she’s 18, at which time Diego promises he will take her.  The boys stop to admire the two older Garcia girls, who look the same as always—meaning Nat is wearing a lovely, conservative, solid-colored (red) above the knee a-line dress, and the Brat is wearing a scowl. Diego gives Nat a bracelet and a chaste peck on the lips, and Carmen finally notices the giant rock on her eldest daughter’s finger. Diego admits it’s not official yet, since he IS still married. But the ring belonged to his mother and has much sentimental value. The Brat’s scowl gets deeper and she points out that she’s sure Al didn’t think to get her anything. He pulls out a beautiful red rose from behind his back and offers it to her. She’s not impressed.  

Chato blows in, and he has gifts from his travels. For Lupita, a giant stone mortar and pestle! Just what every little girl wants. His other gifts also seem like they’re from a random corner market, instead of the specialty items from the region he is claiming to have just come from.

Andres meets up with Abdul at the local pool hall and they do some lighthearted roughhousing.

Paolo and Mara get held up by two thugs on the way home. They don’t want the backpack Paolo offers them—they want the girl. Yipes! Paolo gallantly steps in front of Mara and tells them they won’t touch her. The guys attack, and Paolo does a pretty good job fighting them off, but it’s two against one and they have knives. One grabs Mara, and the other makes to lunge at Paolo with the knife. Suddenly, a gang of studded leather wearing guys runs up and warns the two thugs about coming into their territory. The two thugs run off, and Paolo thanks the gang for their help. The leader tells him they liked the way he handled himself, and they’ll find a way for him to repay them. (Don’t like the sound of that.) They leave, and Mara dissolves into tears as Paolo hugs her. What a guy!

Carmen, Lupita and Chato take a walk to go out to eat, and run into Abdul and Andres. Andres asks Chato how his visit was to yet another named town that exposes his lies. Lupita decides to jump ship and go hang out with Abdul and Andres instead. Smart girl. Once they’re gone, Carmen asks Chato where he really went. She wants to see the bus tickets. He tries to dodge answering the question.

Meanwhile, Lupita tells Abdul and Andres that she knows Chato is a lying liar who lies, and points out the incongruent story he told each of them about where he was going. She does NOT want him to marry her mom! Abdul tries to calm her down by saying that will never happen. Carmen is only humoring Chato so that he can be closer to Lupita. Chato, meanwhile, tells Carmen that he’s serious about her. How can he convince her? By proposing, she says. Well, he’s all set to come tomorrow to ask her children for her hand! Carmen silently kicks herself for opening up her big mouth. Yes indeed. I would definitely agree that she has taken this game too far.

At the club, the Brat makes eyes at Diego (who is oblivious to her flirty smirks), and thinks that Alberto is a dope. Alberto reminds her that he’s her date. On the sidelines, Alonso tries to get Karina to stop calling him muñeco, or any derivation of the word. He refuses to dance. Alberto laughs at Alonso’s lack of dance floor prowess, since the Brat told him a man’s dance floor skills are an indication of his bedroom skills. Alonso is not amused, but he allows Karina to lead him onto the dance floor. As soon as Nat leaves for the restroom, the Brat cozies up to Diego to tell him how well he dances, hint, hint. And if he didn’t get that hint, she rubs her bare foot up his leg. He immediately jumps up and excuses himself from the booth. Good boy. The Brat has to content herself with smooches from a tipsy Alberto. Diego hides in a corner of the club, and is in shock that the Brat was hitting on him!

I feel cheated! No El the whole two hours! Wah!

Next time on DQTQTQ: Grumps finds out that Nat is the granddaughter he so desperately wanted to get rid of all those years ago. Happy, happy! And Carmen announces to the family that she’s marrying Chato. Joy, joy!

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Thanks, Vivi! You really got a full episode.

I loved "the Crabettes".

"...who look the same as always—... and the Brat is wearing a scowl." Is also a great line.

I share your frustration. "The Great Misunderstanding lives!"

While I was annoyed that Diego kind of blew off Alonso's explanation of Nat's behavior, you are right that Diego had a very good point. He knows how close the Garcias are and he is correct in assuming that they would NEVER allow Nat near a rapist or let a rapist in their house. It is a bit of a beanie adjustment moment when I think about that plotline. Nat and the Garcias did sort of dismiss his past behavior rather quickly.

I can't believe Diana lost it in THE FOOD COURT. Everyone heard that conversation. Another beanie adjustment.

And I thought the scene with the second nurse trying to cleanse the bad spirits was funny...even if Rod is the devil.

The scene with Lupita talking to her brothers with Carmen and Chato a few feet away was also cute. I liked how we got a shot of Lupita doing the indignant arm cross and then it cut to Carmen doing the same thing.

While this show is supposedly about Nat and Diego, I'm really watching for the Irene and Carmen stories.

I continue to love Paolo. I'm old enough to be his mother, but I am developing a crush on Pierre Louis. I think he would make a great yerno. Hmmm, I wonder if I can play matchmaker with him and my daughter? I hope I see him in more roles (I know he's in La Gata.)

Tonight looks to be a full episode, too. As gringo says "Must see TV."
 

Thanks, Vivi. these twohour episodes must be bears to recap. thank you for your time and effort.

I fail to see what Alberto sees in Brat. She always looks like she is sucking a lemon. What a cranky pants. She is so jealous of her sister that she almost has a green tinge. Putting the moves on your sister's beau...not cool.

I need more Marcelo.

I think that Paolo must be a sweet guy in real life. I think it must be hard to act convincingly sweet unless the actor is basically a good guy.
 

"Tad tells him he’s being immature, which Al immaturely doesn’t accept. He wishes Tad the best and leaves. Oh Al, I’m so disappointed in you."

Stand in line, girlfriend! We are ALL so disappointed in Alonso right now. Thought he was a total douche last night.

Loved "naughty nurse", the Crabettes, and "Carmen's ready to go kick some crab butt."

And join you in lamenting the absence of Eleazar last night. And tonight I can't watch. And for some reason Hulu Plus is stuck on an episode earlier in the week and is not up to date at all. Dang!

Totally tired of Natalia also. All this quitting and coming back is tedious. More Carmen and Eleazar please!

Okay, that sounded rather whiney. Hope I'm not developing a Brigette pouty face. Loved the recap. Thank you Ms. Vivi. And viva your love life! Hope you're still having fun out dancing as well.
 

Thanks for your great recap Vivi. Sorry there was no Marcelo and the Great Misunderstanding continues (after all that progress it all went poof in 5 min).

Yes Sara this situation/misunderstanding is frustrating! I can't believe there is no discussion of this situation and not dealing with it only makes the issue seem like its some how not important or the Garcias and Padre were concerned for a minute and then oh well.

Susanlynn completely agree with your comments on Alberto. It seems to be one of those nice guy who falls for future harpy/fishwife plots. I hope he sees the light soon.

Judy, " We are ALL so disappointed in Alonso right now. Thought he was a total douche last night." Yes!!
 

Vivi, I missed most of this so special thanks for doing such a marvelous job with so many great details.

"Tad tells him he’s being immature, which Al immaturely doesn’t accept" and "Nat is wearing a lovely, conservative, solid-colored (red) above the knee a-line dress, and the Brat is wearing a scowl" were among my many favorites.

Liking Tad more every day and am hoping for a miracle recovery. Alonso never did it for me and his continuing childish behavior is simply a turn off. Irene needs a man, not a boy.

We are all enjoying this and the comments have been terrific.

Sara,I also love Paolo! This is the first time I've seen him and am already a fan. If I had a daughter I also would fix them up in a heartbeat!

Susanlynn, yes, more Marcelo please, and as the main course, not a few quick "side" scenes.

Judy, "Hope I'm not developing a Brigette pouty face" made me laugh out loud! Hysterical...

Karen, "harpy/fishwife plots". Oh dear, he deserves so much better, doesn't he?

Vivi, thanks for a splendid recap.

Diana
 

Quick question about a rather gross scene. Did they silence the mighty wind in the scene where all the customers were feeling the affects of the fish? My sound has been randomly cutting off this week so I don't know if it was that or another bizarre censoring choice from Univision.
 

Thanks Sara, Susanlynn, Judy, Karen and Diana! I had forgotten how draining these two hour recaps can be, especially if you're trying to include some detail. :)

ITA with you ladies on Paolo. How could any young lady resist? I hope Mara is able to get out of her bad home situation. I think she and Brigitte should switch houses/moms.

Sara- Yes. Uni did silence out the mighty wind coming from the Crazy Crab. I wonder what possible ingredient in the fish dish could cause such a reaction? I will remember to stay away from it.


 

The miscarriage happened sooner than I thought it would, but that poor baby must have really been suffering in the womb from all the abuse. I really can't believe the doctors didn't do more up to this point. How long before Diego and the rest of the family find out the truth? Or will we get into fake belly territory?

Judy- I have some nice dates and activities lined up for the weekend. One guy is really pulling ahead. But I'm doing another speed dating event next week too.
 

Hmmm..I like it that one guy is really a standout, Vivi, because YOU are a standout. Glad to hear things are going well.

Years ago I had a miscarriage and a D & C and there's no way I could have hopped in a taxi and gone home afterwards. But this is telenovela medical magic I guess.

The pescado atrevesado contained broccoli I think...or some cruciferous vegetable, so I'm guessing that was the cause of the gas explosion. Pretty gross humor, but then so was fixing the boiler with Chato standing behind Carmen. We do get down to the basics in this one, I must say!
 

Normally I'm not a fan of bathroom humor, but I admit I laughed at last night's fishy fiasco. Aunty Crab and her Crabettes deserved it. (Though I guess the customers didn't.)
 

I don't normally like to see stories where babies are lost, etc, but even with all of Diego's love, this baby would have suffered tremendously with Diana for a mother (think Gala of Un Refugio). Diana has clearly shown how she feels about her child every time she calls him "engendro" in that hateful manner (engendro = freak, monstrosity, malformed child, spawn, etc). Too bad the baby couldn't get rid of HER instead of the other way around. I'm really surprised that her mother never even commented on the way she kept referring to her baby - well, no I'm not, I take that back. Her mother is just as focused on "Me, Me, Me" as she is (the apple and the tree and all that).
 

Anon 1:38- In total agreement with all you said. That poor baby never had a chance. But Diana would have been a horrible, and abusive, mother like Gala (Refugio). It's nice to see the little actress who played Gala's daughter, playing smart, sassy, and happy Lupita here.
 

Judy my condolences on your miscarriage and thanks for confirming what I thought (How is she moving around as if nothing happened?).

Vivi happy to hear about your dating success and one pulling ahead!

Sad the baby died so soon but Diana was so abusing herself there was little chance of survival. Yeah, I'm seeing baby bumps in the future.

I too am loving Paolo but must admit that between the abusive mother and the gang, his life looks like its going to be quite challenging.

Anon @ 1:38 pm, it would be nice of the child could have gotten rid of Diana.
 

"...between the abusive mother and the gang, his life looks like its going to be quite challenging."

The mom is definitely going to be an issue, but I am hoping that the "gang" turns out to be not as violent and vile as the two thugs who wanted Mara.

I like that we got a scene of
Angela Good Vibes witnessing Mara's trouble. Hopefully Angela can intervene or somehow help.
 

Sara- Yeah. I was happy to learn that Angela is Mara's neighbor and is concerned, because I don't think Paolo will be able to do much about that situation, other than being a good support for Mara.
 

Angela Good Vibes is Nat's age, right. So that means over 18. As a minor I assume Paolo truly is unable to do anything legally. I wonder what the child abuse reporting laws are in Mexico. Mara is still in high school so I assume that if a teacher knows he/she could report it.
 

Thanks everyone for the recaps.

What is it with these TN’s that justify rape? First Robo, now this one.

I still like this TN, though. It’s so much fun.

I think they did a good job of casting Mara and her mother. The actress playing Mara looks a little like the actress playing her mother.

Lupita is the smartest one in that family.

Most annoying characters: Karina and the new fonda owner. Whenever, K is hanging on to Alonso, I find myself almost squirming and brushing invisible arms off me. And the new fonda owner talks and talks and talks and smacks gum and smacks gum and smacks gum. And now I’ve just become annoying.

Nanette

 

Nanette- At least in this tn the rapist is the villain, and not the hero!

Sara- Angela being an adult (over 18) is precisely why I'm glad she may play a part in the Mara storyline, because Mara and Paolo are still kids.
 

Sara- I meant to say earlier that I also loved the visual comedy of Lupita crossing her arms as she went off about Chato, and then the camera going right to Carmen crossing her arms and going off on Chato. :) Now, if only Carmen could take on a bit of Lupita's no-nonsense attitude when it comes to men. Does Alberto mind waiting another 12 years or so for Lupita to be of age because she would be a WAY better option than Brigitte. Just kidding, but Lupita really is so much more mature and sensible than the Brat.
 

What Da Brat doesn't get is that Nat would be just as happy with a bubble gum ring as with Diego's mom's ring. She'd be just as thrilled to get a carnation from Diego as a dozen roses. Diego is happy to give her diamond rings and a dozen roses because he knows she'd be just as happy to get a plastic ring and a carnation just as much as the expensive stuff.

Nat is happy to get those things because they're coming from DIEGO, a person she cares about.

If Alberto gave Da Brat a conch shell, she would sniff her nose up at it just like she rolled her eyes at the single red rose.

Da Brat is lazy. She wants all the rewards and benefits but she doesn't want to have to work for it. She does it with Irene, she does it with Alberto, she did it with Diana and she does it with Nat. Does she really think Diego will mix it up with her after trying to get divorce someone just like her?

Her head is really going to explode when they find out Natalia is Senora Irene's daughter aka part of the rich Caceres family.
 

Nanette- I had the same thought about casting of Mara and her mom last night. I'm still convinced the mom was Adoración or Concepción in UFCS.

Vivi- you're funny. It is too bad Lupita want older. I continue to scratch my head over Alberto's attraction to Brat.
 

Anon207- Amen! She really is delusional to think Diego would want anything to do with her, other than being his bratty sister-in-law whom he tolerates because he loves Nat.
 

Oooo... Anon207! I don't know why it clicked before but it's going to be delicious when Nat's origins are revealed. I'm sure Tad has some spare change as well.

Doh! No wonder Nat is such a natural at design. Both her parents are artistic.
 

Sara- Yes, you have it right. The actress playing Mara's mom played Adoracion's mom, Concepcion, in Familia.
 

Addendum: it will be delicious until Brat tries to hurt Nat somehow.

Though I have to say Brat looked mortified when she realized Diana had tried to poison Nat. Maybe Brat is redeemable?
 

Diana's D&C:

Shouldn't Diana be resting or something? She's back to hanging out at the mall the very next day. I don't think that will bode well for Diana's health.
 

Thanks Vivi! It's been driving me nuts.
 

Anon207- I wouldn't be surprised if we see a complete breakdown of Diana's physical AND mental health. Between the Diego obsession, mania, murderous plotting, miscarriage, and eating disorder, girlfriend is on the high speed crazy train, and it's about to derail.
 

Da Brat is stupid if she is just now realizing Diana was giving her poison to give to Natalia:

1) If Natalia had actually died, all signs would point to Brigitte, not Diana.

2) What did she think Diana was giving her drops to give to Natalia for? For her health?

3) Diana has said several times to Brigitte these drops will separate Natalia from Diego "forever". What did she think that meant?

Even if she didn't think the drops were harmful, Da Brat is still conspiring with her sister's enemy...If Carmen ever found that out, that would NOT be ok.

But if Carmen did find out, Da Brat would just whine that she was favoring Natalia again.
 

Wow, nice discussion happening.

Hey Nanette great to see you here. Yes there is the specter of rape but thankfully it has not happened.

Vivi, LOL at least the attempted rapist is the villain not the galan. And yes Diana is headed for a breakdown, both mental and physical, and will most likely not make it b/c of the tn rule regarding church weddings.

Anon207, yes the Brat is that dumb and as you noted Diana gave her enough clues so she should have been aware it was poison. LOL, she would scream favoritism if Carmen threw her out for helping demon Di (DD).

Sara, the Brat did seem to be sincerely shocked when DD told about the poison. If she gets redeemed, it might be a long, hard road.
 

Yeah, thinking about it more I realize Brat was shocked for a nanosecond and then went right back to her tricks. Heck, her shock may have been because Demon Di (love it) was telling the entire food court she meant to poison someone via Brat.


 

Brigitte thought that the drops were some sort of"love potion" and made a sarcastic comment about Diana being dumb enough to believe in "those things" but shrugged her shoulders and figured she'd play along with Diana. After all, she had nothing to lose AND she was getting paid for it. At this point she is still redeemable but who knows what will happen if she keeps going more and more in a dark path.
 

Or rather, an anti-love potion.
Anon 4:37
 

Thanks Karen. I've been meaning to comment more often, but keep getting behind in eps.

I just hope this excusing rape thing is not going to be a new trend in TNs.

Was I the only one who was a little disturbed that Diego and Nat got engaged while he was still married?

They need to introduce someone new for Alberto. He deserves better than Brig. Unless they redeem her.

Saw the previews where Nat finally lets her have it. I'm so there tonight!!
 

Love the recap Vivi tks mucho

Nanette, I read that the beings protecting us puritans cut so much from that Robo scene that it wasn't even rape. Similar to Amor Real. I'm not watching Robo, but damn let us have hot sex!!!!!

Ha, ja feestar is my captcha
 

Nanette - I think I was more disappointed with Nat than disturbed. He's still married. They should not be engaged.
 

Variopinta the second time the protagonist in Robo have sex it was edited and looked like rape. According to those who saw the entire scene, though it started dubiously, it eventually was consensual. The first time the couple engaged it was rape and that's why many of us can't tolerate Ale. Sadly the second galan, though not a rapist is no prize either. The secondary characters in this remain the only ones worth watching.
 

Nanette, you and Sara aren't the only ones disturbed by the non-engagement ring. It just sets up Nat living in fear and excusing domestic violence b/c she won't talk about it and won't be told about Diego's rapist brother.
 

Sara, I was thinking the same thing. But it is sort of a pre-engagement, giving her his abuelas ring, I think.
Keep it cool until the divorce.
One problem I have with novelas, being in love with someone before marrying someone else. But I think that happens in real life also, being on the rebound.

But this pre-engagement is being made public.
 

They both act as if the divorce is a done deal. I'm also wondering why they're aren't afraid to be seen as a couple in public. For all intents and purposes, Diego is having an extra-marital affair with Nat. Doesn't matter that he plans on going through with the divorce once the "baby is born".

Speaking of which, I don't see how Diana could fake a pregnancy. I know that she isn't sleeping with Diego, but someone is going to touch her "pregnant" tummy. Do those pregancy pads feel like the real deal when touched?
 

And what about when someone wants to feel the baby kick? Do they come with a feature that she can push a button and something pokes out to make it look like baby has kicked
 

Diana won't have to worry about people trying to feel her pregnant tummy because with the way she's been living, she won't be alive too much longer. She's not eating, she never gave her body a chance to recover after the miscarriage. Plus, she's plotted murder on Natalia and purposely denied the baby food & nutrients so she can stay skinny. It will not end well for Diana.
 

Gracias, Vivi! Too many funny lines to list, but you're so right...the Devil is in Rod's room, for sure!
 

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