Thursday, May 29, 2014
De Que Te Quiero, Te Quiero, 5/29/14, #72 & 73 US (or something like that)
De que tiene agallas, tiene agallas
Naughty Nurse Irma tells Rod that Diego is dying. He tells her to keep him alive another 2 weeks so that Diego can see how he’s stolen his life. The stupid nurse seems to be finally realizing that Rod isn’t a good person. She threatens to skip town. He buys her cooperation with the promise of lots of money. He makes it clear that she was nothing but a quick and easy lay.
At Garcia Central, the kids are all dressed and waiting for Carmen who is in the kitchen packing up the food. Luz is there with the kids too, and El and Padre Juancho arrive. Nat apologizes to Luz and El for not being able to invite them to the dinner, but they don’t mind and just want to wish Nat well.
Naughty Nurse Irma tells Rod that Diego is dying. He tells her to keep him alive another 2 weeks so that Diego can see how he’s stolen his life. The stupid nurse seems to be finally realizing that Rod isn’t a good person. She threatens to skip town. He buys her cooperation with the promise of lots of money. He makes it clear that she was nothing but a quick and easy lay.
The Brat tries to listen in, but apparently Caprico’s doors
aren’t made of cardboard and she hears nothing. When Irma leaves, she tries to
play the jealous girlfriend card to find out who that woman was. Rod reminds
her of her place as his mistress. Her only job is to find a place where they
can do the dirty on the down-low.
Morales reports back to El on Paolo’s "close" relationship with
his new boss.
There has obviously been something important cut because
Carmen is crying in her bedroom, and Nat comes in to reassure her that she is
of course more important to her than Diego’s family. She thanks God each day
for putting her in Carmen’s path. She loves her and respects her, even though
they don’t carry the same blood. Carmen says there is no difference between Nat
and her other siblings. Carm dismisses her tears as just being emotional about
her first baby girl getting married. She assures Nat that she just wants her to
be happy. Nat is sure she will be happy with Diego. She doesn’t think Grumps
will be a problem once they are married, living apart from him, and he has time
to see she is not a gold-digger.
Paolo’s papa Gino invites him out for dinner. Paolo says he
can’t since he has to attend his sister’s engagement dinner. Gino insists that
he will get Paolo a tie or even a suit for the occasion, since Italians must be
fashionable.
Rod is primping in front of the mirror for the dinner, when
Lala informs him that Irene and “el Joven Alonso” are downstairs. Step number one
for Al, if he wants to be seen as a real man by Irene’s side: get people in
their circle to stop calling him “joven.” Rodiego goes downstairs and apologizes
for beating the crap out of Al, just in time for Grumps to enter and ask what
they’re talking about. He tells Rodiego that problems aren’t resolved through
fighting/blows. (Just through lying, cheating, and generally being a jerk.)
At Garcia Central, the kids are all dressed and waiting for Carmen who is in the kitchen packing up the food. Luz is there with the kids too, and El and Padre Juancho arrive. Nat apologizes to Luz and El for not being able to invite them to the dinner, but they don’t mind and just want to wish Nat well.
Sorry, I forgot I was recapping there for a while, watching
El and Carmen heat up the kitchen. Ay, yay, yay! She sends him to get her purse
in the bedroom before she (and I) spontaneously combusts. On the way, El runs
into Paolo, who comes out to show the whole family his new LAVANDER suit and
bright red tie that his boss gave him. El’s face says where his mind is going,
and the Padre is right there with him. Nat, however, loves it.
The Brat and Alberto arrive at the manse first and Brat
gushes over the house and what good taste Grumps has. Grumps is not as
impressed with her. Next she tries to make a snide comment about how OLD Irene
is and that the Als called her “tia.” They both shoot that down, since they
never called her tia. Rodiego is the only one who enjoyed the putdown. Brat
thought-bubbles about this all being hers someday. Dream on, Brat.
Doc Sexytimes gives Irma more info about how to induce a
coma without harming the patient. She begs off having sexy time with him, since
she has to incapacitate her kidnap victim work. She then injects Diego
with the drugs she believes will do the trick and he immediately goes into
cardiac arrest. She does chest compressions while begging him to live. She
manages to stabilize him and says she will never forgive herself if she let him
die (i.e. killed him). A bit too late for regrets, Irma.
The Garcia Gang arrives, and Carmen greets Grumps warmly and
presents the (I’m sure) delicious seafood soup she prepared. He is not
grateful. Irene jumps in and thanks Carmen and calls Lala to collect the soup.
When offered refreshment, Carmen asks for “refrescos” (usually sodas or juices)
for the kids and the Padre, and rompope for herself—yeah, not very
sophisticated, but delicious. She then takes a crumpled roll of tissue out of
her sleeve to wipe off the bright red lipstick stain she left on Grumps’ cheek.
It is hilarious! I’m sure the actor had a hard time keeping that grumpy face
on.
The Garcia boys are impressed with the multitude of cutlery
on the long formal dining table. The first course is brought out—Carmen’s soup.
It looks wonderful, and according to Irene, tastes wonderful too. Grumps
refuses it and says he doesn’t eat seafood at night. The rest of the meal goes
on this way. Carmen and the Garcias (minus Brat) are animated and happy, Irene
is supportive, the Als are invisible, and Grumps, Rodiego, and the Brat look
like someone just passed wind at the table. Carmen and Nat speak about Carmen
catering the wedding. Rodiego pretends that he’s ok with this. Grumps is not
pleased with the very Mexican menu they’ve planned.
Rodiego stands up to make a speech about his love for Nat,
which, since he’s slimy Rod, and not sweet Diego, comes out sounding icky when
he speaks about knowing Nat would be “his” from the moment he saw her, and
feeling desire. Grumps does a face-palm plant, and Carmen’s big smile turns
upside down. Grumps and Carmen are finally in agreement about something.
Rodiego makes a save, by saying he felt a desire…to build a home and family
with Nat. Carm’s relief is palpable. Padre still doesn’t look convinced. Rodiego
continues his double entendre speech then asks for Nat’s hand and that they
marry in fifteen days. No one, not even Nat, looks happy about the shotgun
wedding date.
Nat assures them all that she is NOT pregnant, and asks
Rodiego to explain why the rush. He explains that they never wanted a big
wedding, and they just want to be together. Abdul makes a joke, asking Rodiego
if he’s scared he’ll end up like Chato (dumped at the altar), and offers to personally
accompany Nat to the church and up the aisle. The Garcias and everyone at the
table laugh, but Grumps and Rodiego have no idea who Chato is. Grumps asks, Nat
tells Rodiego to tell Grumps the story, and Rodiego has to stall. Carmen takes
his reticence for gallantry, and thanks him for not wanting to embarrass her.
They all continue to talk about the rushed, small wedding
and who will be invited. Nat still doesn’t seem very convinced. Grumps refuses
to invite anyone. He thinks they should just have a civil wedding! Padre
Juancho jumps in—“Awww, heck no! God has to give this marriage the stamp of
approval!” Nat tries to find a compromise- A wedding that isn’t too small or
too big, of course they will get married in the Church, and yes, they will
marry in 15 days. Rodiego is thrilled. Grumps, not so much.
The editors get out their scissors again and we have a
series of choppy scenes of the continuing dinner. During the champagne toast,
the Brat keeps pressing Irene to take a glass. Irene finally has to spell it
out for her and everyone at the table that she is an alcoholic and that’s why
she can’t. Everyone gives the Brat dirty looks. Irene stands and makes a
gracious toast with her mineral water. During dessert, Tiburcio is mentioned as
a fellow countryman of theirs and Carmen asks to meet him, despite Grumps’
protests.
Diego wakes up suddenly, and Irma lies that he had an
accident. He asks for Nat before passing out. She later brings him water and
lies that Nat and his family are on their way. He passes out again.
A serenade arrives at the house, and Carmen is the first one
to start dancing. I love her! She tries to convince Grumps to take a twirl. He
reacts the way you’d expect. It’s been YEARS since he’s danced, and he only
likes son. Carmen
asks the band to strike up a son tune for Grumps, just as Tiburcio enters and
is introduced. He looks at Nat, falls to his knees, takes her hand, and kisses
it in desperation with tears in his eyes. Nat, and everyone else, is shocked. Grumps
jumps into action and tells Tib to knock it off. Tib says Nat reminds him of
the Virgin of his name day. His wife is ordered by Grumps to take Tib away. He
can’t stop staring at Nat. Grumps orders the band to continue with the son,
then he puts his hand out for Carmen to dance with him! Nat continues to be
freaked out by Tib’s reaction to her, Rodiego brushes it off, but wonders to
himself what Grumps and Tib are hiding. Padre tells Abdul that he has met Tib
before, and he was equally odd. Irene tells Al that Tib has a black conscience
because of what he did to her. Al draws her close as they dance.
The next day, Rodiego picks up Nat. He’s thinking her excitement
about the wedding means they’ll be getting busy…in bed. But Nat talks about how busy they will be with the wedding prep. Fun times for Rodiego!
Irma drugs Diego’s water to keep him sedated. Idiot!
The Brat reports to Karina how the dinner went. They rejoice
about Irene having to announce to everyone that she’s an alcoholic (like it was
a secret). They decide to invent a past love in Alonso’s life to make Irene
jealous and insecure.
Grumps scolds Tib for showing his face at the dinner, when
he ordered him not to. Tib can’t get past his conscience and begs Grumps to treat
Nat well—he owes it to her, and she IS his nieta, no matter what he says.
Grumps gets all sinister and says he will treat Nat well, IF Tib doesn’t open
his big mouth. Somehow, I doubt Grumps’ sincerity.
El and Morales visit Gino at his bowling alley office. Due
to edits, we don’t know why El is fumbling with papers on Gino’s desk and
yelling it can’t be! In any case, by the time Gino enters his office, El has
his cover story ready about checking in on local businesses to see if they have
had any problems with criminals. Gino happily says he hasn’t had any.
Irene and Al meet for lunch. She’s apparently just come from
an appointment with the new therapist he recommended and she’s very happy with
him. A lady at a neighboring table leaves her toddler unattended in her high
chair. Disturbing. The baby starts to fuss, and Al rushes over to hold and comfort
the little one. Her mom returns, and doesn’t seem phased in the least by the strange
man holding her baby. Even more disturbing. Irene smiles at Al in the
background and asks him if he wants kids. Yes, he’s always wanted kids, and
even has their names picked out already! Luciano, Emiliano, and Sofia. Or, any
name Irene chooses, because he’s only ever pictured the children he would have with
her. She smooches him, and says she wants to form a beautiful family with him.
El and Morales plan how they will get Gino to leave Paolo
alone, as they leave the bowling alley. Paolo arrives just as Gino is framing a
picture of the two of them, and asks about the cops. Gino says it was nothing.
[Sorry everyone. My
dvr for some reason had the 2nd hour listed as Por Siempre Mi Amor,
and so did not record the second hour. By the time I got home and started
watching, it was 13 mins into the second hour, so you all will have to fill in
what I missed in those 13 mins in the comments.]
Brat, Alberto, Rodiego and Nat are preparing to go out to a
club. Nat is unhappy because Rodiego has apparently suggested that they live
with Grumps after they get married. Rodiego points out that Grumps has been
treating her better, plus he’s old and sick. Nat is not convinced. Carmen, Luz, and Lupita arrive and interrupt
the argument. Carmen doesn’t like what she just observed.
At the club, Alonso and Irene are dancing close and
smooching. Meanwhile, two skanks (one of whom is Perla Ivette from Pobres!) sit
at a table observing Irene and Al, noticing how in love they are, but deciding
to soldier on with the job they were paid to do (apparently by Karina and/or
the Brat).
Paolo bowls a strike, while happy Gino congratulates him
with affection. The jealous employee, whose name I don’t know and don’t care to
learn, says he has to leave work early because of a family emergency, so Paolo
is given the keys to lock up for the night. One of the spiked black leather
jacket gang members sees.
The skanks follow Irene into the bathroom, and have a LOUD
conversation about Al and the old hag he’s with, and the wild sexy times they and
half of all his female patients have had with him. Irene rushes out of the
stall and the bathroom, grabs her purse to leave, and ditches Al. He follows
her out, but she angrily refuses to explain. Apparently, it is now Irene’s turn
to act like the immature one in this relationship. Karina comes out of the
shadows and high-fives herself for a job well done.
El is unhappy that Gino has a clean record—they can’t find
anything on him. Morales advises El to just tell Carmen what’s happening with
Paolo. He says he's tried, but she refuses to believe that Paolo may play for the
other league.
Alberto, Brat, Nat, and Rodiego arrive at the club to find
Alonso alone with a long face. Rodiego makes a tasteless joke about Irene and
his “uncle” Alonso. Nat calls him on it. They go to dance.
Irene arrives at Tad’s house. Hey, he IS looking much
better! Way to go, Tad! Tad has a dinner place set for her. He tells Irene the
results of his latest medical tests- he’s totally cured! Irene is ecstatic, but
Tad’s face shows that he may not be telling the truth.
Paolo is met by the gang as he leaves the bowling alley.
They want him to come hang out with them, and he accepts—but calls his mom
first. What a good boy! Meanwhile, El goes to see Padre to discuss how to solve
a problem like Paolo (or Gino). They’ve got to talk to Carmen, tomorrow!
Tad wonders if Al is coming to pick up Irene. She makes it
clear she does not want to see Al. Tad says he hopes she’s not using him to
make Al jealous. She denies it. He then says he’s all ears to listen to her, like
the good friend he is.
Paolo is at the pool hall with the gang and sees the jealous
employee playing. Family emergency, my eye! One of the gang members wants to
know if Paolo wants the gang to give the guy a beat-down for him. No, Paolo can
handle it himself, and he confronts the guy. The guy says that Paolo can get
anything out of Gino, implying via sexual favors. He takes a swing at Paolo, but
he quickly ducks and brings the guy down with a right hook. No one messes with
Paolo! Paolo leaves the pool hall, and the gang follows, after dissing the
other guy for trying to mess with El Moreno. They offer to go back in and
finish the guy off for Paolo. He refuses, and then they ask him to repay that
favor he owes them (for saving him and Mara) by giving them the keys to the
bowling alley. Paolo thinks it’s a joke. One of the guys gets physical and
Paolo gives him a smack down. The gang leader likes that he has guts (agallas).
At da club, the couples switch and Brat learns Nat doesn’t
want to live in the mansion. Rodiego laughs in her face when she expresses her
desire to live there. The couples switch back and Alberto gets an even more
sour-faced girlfriend than usual.
The gang leader offers to split the loot with Paolo, but he
still refuses. He couldn’t do that to Gino. Paolo tells them to do what they
want to him, but he won’t hand the keys over willingly-- so the leader starts beating
the crap out of him. Then he stops and lets Paolo go, saying he’ll give him a
few days to think about it. Paolo runs off, the gang members wonder why the
leader let him go-- he says he knows Paolo will give in. Jealous employee
emerges from the shadows, where he has watched all this go down, and says that
Paolo won’t do it since he’s Gino’s lover and won’t betray him. But HE has another
set of keys at his house...
Karina calls Brat for on update on Alonso. Rodiego catches
her and demands to know if she’s friends with Karina. She tries to deny it. He
doesn’t believe her.
Jealous employee wants a cut of the loot. They offer him
20%, take it or leave it. He takes it.
Brat twists the Irene knife further into Alonso’s heart with
her nasty comments. Alonso decides to leave the club. Alberto scolds Brat.
Seriously dude. This is who you want to be with?
Paolo arrives home in distress, but hides it from Carmen and
heads to bed.
Irene tells Tad about what she overheard in the bathroom.
Tad talks sense and tells her to speak to Al and hear what he has to say. If
she proves it's true, then there’s still the possibility of a person changing.
Irene doesn’t believe a person can change like that, and she doesn’t want to
live by his side always doubting him and thinking he’s boinking yet another of
his female patients. She’s grateful for having Tad in her life. Tad turns the
subject back to Al. He urges her to go talk to him. He asks if she wants him to
take her home, to Grumps’.
Al arrives home, and doesn’t find Irene there. He calls her
cell phone. Irene tells him she’s at Tad’s, rudely says no when he offers to
pick her up, and abruptly hangs up on him. Oh, Irene!
Paolo tries to call Gino to warn him, but his phone is out
of the service area, so Paolo talks himself out of it. Abdul comes in and
notices something is off with Paolo, but Paolo brushes it off and rolls over to
go to sleep.
Jealous employee and the gang break into the bowling alley.
The next morning, the Brat makes up an excuse about going to
see friends to Carmen. It is likely a lie, and she’s going to have sexy-time
with Rodiego. Next, Nat refuses to tell Carmen what she was arguing about with
Rodiego. Nat stays home to watch the kids, while Carmen goes out to take care
of business.
Tad’s maid lays out breakfast for Irene. Alonso is making coffee
at his place when Alberto arrives. He at first seems calm about his girlfriend spending the
night at her ex’s, but gets worked up the more he talks about it. Actually, I
think he’s pretty justified this time.
Looks like Rodiego has chosen some cheapo condo in a tawdry hood
for sexy times with the Brat. She is not pleased. He doesn’t care and throws
her onto the bed. Blech!
Meanwhile, Nat is having a wholesome bowl of cereal while
watching cartoons on the couch with Lupita. Lupita wonders if Rodiego was jealous
when she danced with Al. Nat says that would be just as silly as her being
jealous of Brigitte dancing with Rodiego! Lupita insists on going dancing with
them next time. Nat says she needs to bring a boyfriend to dance with. Lupita
doesn’t see why she needs a boyfriend when she has Paolo, who likes to dance.
Nat teases her about liking one of her classmates. The doorbell rings and it’s
Papa Juancho and El, looking all serious. They go into the kitchen so that
Lupita’s little ears won’t hear their delicate conversation.
Carmen is near the fonda when she hears the two chismosas
gossiping about Paolo and his tendencies. Meanwhile, Nat is hearing it in a
much nicer way from Padre and El. She doesn’t believe it. Paolo finds Lupita
all alone in the living room, and she tells him about the powwow in the
kitchen. Nat tells Padre and El that those gossipy ladies are vipers. El says
he’s seen the way Paolo’s boss is with him, and Padre says he’s also seen
evidence of Paolo’s tendencies. They now have to tell Carmen. The guy even has
a photo of himself and Paolo hugging in his office! Paolo, having obviously
heard enough of this nonsense, bursts in with tears in his eyes and says none
of it is true!
Tomorrow: Diego wakes up,
leaves a message on Alberto’s cell phone, and wanders the hospital asking for
help, while Rod and Irma try to track him down. Run, Diego! Run!
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I was surprised by how much of the dinner scene they showed us, but I guess there was a lot of stuff to cover for the meeting of the families. How long can Rod continue to bluff his way out of not knowing things Diego would know?
Loved the scene in the kitchen with El and Carmen. And I forgot to mention how great she looked in that red dress. How much longer is she going to keep El hanging, or...er, standing?
Loved the scene in the kitchen with El and Carmen. And I forgot to mention how great she looked in that red dress. How much longer is she going to keep El hanging, or...er, standing?
Vivi, so happy to read your delicious, intoxicating recap. Amazing!
"The Brat tries to listen in, but apparently Caprico’s doors aren’t made of cardboard and she hears nothing" and "Step number one for Al, if he wants to be seen as a real man by Irene’s side: get people in their circle to stop calling him “joven.” (very clever Vivi) were among my many favorites (along with "How much longer is she going to keep El hanging, or...er, standing?") HA!
I was salivating at the dinner fare - Carmen's soup looked delish.
And of course you are so right! Irene is acting like a spoiled brat and I resent she is seeking refuge at Tad's. She is using him, intentionally or not. He deserves so much better. While I applaud her continuing to maintain her hard fought for sobriety, childish behavior is a step backward nevertheless.
I also wonder how Rod can continue this charade. The "desire" line had him tettering on the edge of disaster certainly.
And Irma! She crossed the line a long time ago and deserves jail for life. She has endangered Diego's life all for someone that has revealed he has simply used her. Whatever is she perpetuating this for? She will be discovered whatever occurs. She needs to fix this and turn herself in.
Very disappointed in what appears to be a major disaster for Paolo.
I am having an increasingly difficult time tolerating Brig's puckered lips and evil stares. It's implausible that Al sees anything at all in her. Wake up man!
There could never be too much El and Carmen for me! Writers take note.
Hoping for Diego's recovery in time to stop the wedding. What a disaster that would be!
Vivi, what a wonderul treat!
Happy Friday all!
Diana
"The Brat tries to listen in, but apparently Caprico’s doors aren’t made of cardboard and she hears nothing" and "Step number one for Al, if he wants to be seen as a real man by Irene’s side: get people in their circle to stop calling him “joven.” (very clever Vivi) were among my many favorites (along with "How much longer is she going to keep El hanging, or...er, standing?") HA!
I was salivating at the dinner fare - Carmen's soup looked delish.
And of course you are so right! Irene is acting like a spoiled brat and I resent she is seeking refuge at Tad's. She is using him, intentionally or not. He deserves so much better. While I applaud her continuing to maintain her hard fought for sobriety, childish behavior is a step backward nevertheless.
I also wonder how Rod can continue this charade. The "desire" line had him tettering on the edge of disaster certainly.
And Irma! She crossed the line a long time ago and deserves jail for life. She has endangered Diego's life all for someone that has revealed he has simply used her. Whatever is she perpetuating this for? She will be discovered whatever occurs. She needs to fix this and turn herself in.
Very disappointed in what appears to be a major disaster for Paolo.
I am having an increasingly difficult time tolerating Brig's puckered lips and evil stares. It's implausible that Al sees anything at all in her. Wake up man!
There could never be too much El and Carmen for me! Writers take note.
Hoping for Diego's recovery in time to stop the wedding. What a disaster that would be!
Vivi, what a wonderul treat!
Happy Friday all!
Diana
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: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
Thanks, Diana! Happy Friday to you too!
Things are looking bleak for Paolo right now. But I'm glad that he finally heard what's being said behind his back and can confront it head on. Poor guy was so upset about it though. Plus, the drama he's currently facing with the gang-- he is just having a terrible day. My hope for when the robbery is discovered is that Gino won't believe Paolo could have anything to do with it. Hopefully, Carmen will also march right over to the bowling alley to clear up this mess and realize just who Paolo's boss is.
I'm trying to figure out what's more upsetting to Padre and El-- the thought that Paolo is gay, or that he's being seduced by a MUCH older man. Or are both things equally upsetting to them?
Things are looking bleak for Paolo right now. But I'm glad that he finally heard what's being said behind his back and can confront it head on. Poor guy was so upset about it though. Plus, the drama he's currently facing with the gang-- he is just having a terrible day. My hope for when the robbery is discovered is that Gino won't believe Paolo could have anything to do with it. Hopefully, Carmen will also march right over to the bowling alley to clear up this mess and realize just who Paolo's boss is.
I'm trying to figure out what's more upsetting to Padre and El-- the thought that Paolo is gay, or that he's being seduced by a MUCH older man. Or are both things equally upsetting to them?
Gracias, Vivi! I don't blame you for getting distracted by El in the kitchen. Who wouldn't be?! I loved "He tells Rodiego that problems aren’t resolved through fighting/blows. (Just through lying, cheating, and generally being a jerk.)" Yep! That's Grumps!
What happened in the 13 minutes you missed, as far as I can remember, is...
Nat and Brat were sitting at the kitchen table before the unfortunate triple date and Brat went off to her bedroom to get some earrings. I think this was a stalling tactic so that everyone would be late, giving Alonso and Irene a chance to implode before they got there. When Alberto showed up, he noticed Brigitte's phone on the table and picked it up. I, of course, was hoping he'd see some sexy texts to/from RoDiego, but no...what he saw was pictures of a fancy apartment that Karina had sent Brat. She couldn't tell the truth about why, so first she attacked Al for picking up her phone, then she said she had asked Karina to look for a nice apartment for Nat and Diego, because of course, they wouldn't want to live with Grumps, right?
The two skanks at the bar, were texted by Karina once she got a look at what Irene and Al were wearing so they could giggle and wave at Al and say it was so nice to see him again. He had no idea who they were and Irene didn't quite believe him, but seemed not to be too concerned.
What happened in the 13 minutes you missed, as far as I can remember, is...
Nat and Brat were sitting at the kitchen table before the unfortunate triple date and Brat went off to her bedroom to get some earrings. I think this was a stalling tactic so that everyone would be late, giving Alonso and Irene a chance to implode before they got there. When Alberto showed up, he noticed Brigitte's phone on the table and picked it up. I, of course, was hoping he'd see some sexy texts to/from RoDiego, but no...what he saw was pictures of a fancy apartment that Karina had sent Brat. She couldn't tell the truth about why, so first she attacked Al for picking up her phone, then she said she had asked Karina to look for a nice apartment for Nat and Diego, because of course, they wouldn't want to live with Grumps, right?
The two skanks at the bar, were texted by Karina once she got a look at what Irene and Al were wearing so they could giggle and wave at Al and say it was so nice to see him again. He had no idea who they were and Irene didn't quite believe him, but seemed not to be too concerned.
Vivi- They're playing it pretty close to the vest. They were both a little concerned when they first thought he was gay, but maybe now it's more about an older man taking advantage? Maybe. And El made that comment about "I tried to tell Carmen and she brushed me off"...because if she'd taken you seriously she could have talked him out of being gay? Riiiiight. And why are none of the characters bringing up the stereotype that all Italian men are like that? I guess the writers only like to drag out stereotypes when they lead to misinformation, confusion, and misunderstandings.
Diana-I'm afraid in the end Irma's the one who's going to have to deal with the consequences of kidnapping and drugging Diego. Rod will probably be dead. I wish she would make good on her threats and just turn him in!
Kat, I totally agree with your comments in answer to Vivi's questions. You stated the response far better than I would have.
If Irma does end up taking the blame for what happened to Diego, I can live with that. You are likely right, Rod will likely not lead a long and happy life.
Diana
If Irma does end up taking the blame for what happened to Diego, I can live with that. You are likely right, Rod will likely not lead a long and happy life.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 10:44:00 AM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 10:44:00 AM EDT
Kat- Thanks for the missing minutes! Alberto really needs to get a clue about the Brat.
I really wonder how far the writers will take this wedding thing? Will it actually happen? There has been so much talk about the newlyweds moving in with Grumps, that it seems like the writers will go there. But that would mean that Nat would have to marry Rod, and even consummate the marriage. Yikes! As much as I want Diego to be successful in his escape attempt, it seems like it's too soon, and the writers will either wait till just before or after the wedding.
"because if she'd taken you seriously she could have talked him out of being gay? Riiiiight." LOL! I was thinking the same thing. What exactly do they think Carmen could do about Paolo being gay? Yes, if a much older person (man or woman) is having an inappropriate relationship with Paolo, who is still a minor, she should be informed and something should be done.
I really wonder how far the writers will take this wedding thing? Will it actually happen? There has been so much talk about the newlyweds moving in with Grumps, that it seems like the writers will go there. But that would mean that Nat would have to marry Rod, and even consummate the marriage. Yikes! As much as I want Diego to be successful in his escape attempt, it seems like it's too soon, and the writers will either wait till just before or after the wedding.
"because if she'd taken you seriously she could have talked him out of being gay? Riiiiight." LOL! I was thinking the same thing. What exactly do they think Carmen could do about Paolo being gay? Yes, if a much older person (man or woman) is having an inappropriate relationship with Paolo, who is still a minor, she should be informed and something should be done.
Oh, and maybe someone else caught it, but it looked like El was running a background check on Gino and didn't find anything. He said something about having to wait for info to come from "overseas" as well. Did anyone else hear him saying something about Paolo being "of age" and therefore they couldn't just arrest Gino for his alleged relationship with Paolo? I don't remember if he said it to Morales in the office or to Padre Juancho at his place.
From Wikipedia about the age of consent in Mexico:
In Mexico, criminal legislation is shared between the federal and state governments. The federal law establishes the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18 (sex with someone 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances). Local state laws may override the federal law. In practice, the decision as to whether or not to prosecute is left to state authorities regardless of the younger person's age. At state level, the minimum ages of consent vary between 12 (and puberty in a few states) and 15, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities vary from 16 to 18 (most common 18).
In Mexico, criminal legislation is shared between the federal and state governments. The federal law establishes the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18 (sex with someone 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances). Local state laws may override the federal law. In practice, the decision as to whether or not to prosecute is left to state authorities regardless of the younger person's age. At state level, the minimum ages of consent vary between 12 (and puberty in a few states) and 15, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities vary from 16 to 18 (most common 18).
El did say Paolo is of age so it is not against the law and it really is not El's or the priest business if Paolo was gay. They are acting like he (Paolo) is some hapless boy being coaxed into a cult. Kinda has made me angry and lose respect with them all.
Kat- I did hear El mention the international background check, since their checks had yielded nothing. It also made me wonder if Gino is using a false name, since his name hasn't rung any bells for Paolo (who I assume was told his dad's name) or El.
Tofie- I'm taking it as a cultural thing, so I'm more annoyed at El and Padre than mad at them. I am sure this will be a big lesson for them all, but I hope a gay character DOES come on the scene to challenge their stereotypes. I actually think that for a Catholic priest, Padre is handling this pretty well. At least he's not cursing Paolo with fire and brimstone and eternal damnation.
Vivi, thanks for the detail and comment on last night.
Irene was just looking for a reason to go running back to Tad and it didn't take much. She is embarrassed of the relationship with Alonso and hasn't the guts to tell him she'd rather be with a man that owns a home than live in what looks like a college dorm. Get bent out of shape overhearing Al got around and this from an alcoholic that has drunkenly slept with half of Mexico likely. Have some courage Irene and make a decision to be with Tad, though it will bite you again, and I want a ringside seat when it does.
Nat, don't get me started on that country bumpkin with helium for brains.
Well played by the two skanks in the toilet.
Irma - die bitch.
Rod - the only reason you have lived this long is because you were in a coma, otherwise somebody would have already beat that smug look (that is there, though none of his friends, family and especially Nat sees) right off your face
Guess I must be the only one that doesn't think Carmen a catch. Not a prize if everybody has had it.
Irene was just looking for a reason to go running back to Tad and it didn't take much. She is embarrassed of the relationship with Alonso and hasn't the guts to tell him she'd rather be with a man that owns a home than live in what looks like a college dorm. Get bent out of shape overhearing Al got around and this from an alcoholic that has drunkenly slept with half of Mexico likely. Have some courage Irene and make a decision to be with Tad, though it will bite you again, and I want a ringside seat when it does.
Nat, don't get me started on that country bumpkin with helium for brains.
Well played by the two skanks in the toilet.
Irma - die bitch.
Rod - the only reason you have lived this long is because you were in a coma, otherwise somebody would have already beat that smug look (that is there, though none of his friends, family and especially Nat sees) right off your face
Guess I must be the only one that doesn't think Carmen a catch. Not a prize if everybody has had it.
Hm...Gino was a little vague about the "mafia"....
tofie--yes! Good thing you missed a lot of Madhilde's verbal vomit in Mentir Para Vivir. El and the Padre are oddly both being more kind AND more meddling. They're at least not going on and on about how "terrible" it is and no one has started blathering on about hell, but at the same time...what an invasion of privacy! I guess the DF turned into a murder-free zone as soon as they promoted El to head of the homicide division.
tofie--yes! Good thing you missed a lot of Madhilde's verbal vomit in Mentir Para Vivir. El and the Padre are oddly both being more kind AND more meddling. They're at least not going on and on about how "terrible" it is and no one has started blathering on about hell, but at the same time...what an invasion of privacy! I guess the DF turned into a murder-free zone as soon as they promoted El to head of the homicide division.
I maintain my defense of Carmen! She didn't have a series of one-night-stands. She had serious relationships with all her baby daddies...they just took off when the going got tough. They're the ones who are worthless, not her. She's a human being, not a prize. She has worth because she's a human, and it's not diminished by the number of sexual partners she's had.
Vivi, guess it is a cultural thing and I have traveled the world and a mixed bag of view points but this is bordering on ridiculous. I grew up in the south, ultra religious but when the private religious based university I attended expelled two of my male classmates (wonderful men both)for what the dean called an abomination it forced many of us to reevaluate our indoctrination and some of us tranferred. The indoctrination also applied to where they thought my place, as a woman, is, so I bristle though this was over 30 years ago.
"She has worth because she's a human, and it's not diminished by the number of sexual partners she's had." Well said, Kat. ITA!
Tofie- ITA about bristling at those religious and cultural constraints. That's why I stopped going to church when I was 12. However, I find that I am in the minority with that. I have learned to be practical and open about others' beliefs-- as long as they don't try to limit and constrain others who don't share their beliefs.
Tofie- ITA about bristling at those religious and cultural constraints. That's why I stopped going to church when I was 12. However, I find that I am in the minority with that. I have learned to be practical and open about others' beliefs-- as long as they don't try to limit and constrain others who don't share their beliefs.
Vivi in DC,loved your recap!
tofie, I lurked on "Por Siempre Mi Amor" (sorry, could NOT take the Guy Ecker character) and I LOVED, LOVED your one liners. They are in a class all their own!!
Where is gringo? It's always so nice to have the male perspective. :))
Fatima
tofie, I lurked on "Por Siempre Mi Amor" (sorry, could NOT take the Guy Ecker character) and I LOVED, LOVED your one liners. They are in a class all their own!!
Where is gringo? It's always so nice to have the male perspective. :))
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 12:19:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 12:19:00 PM EDT
Hi, Vivi,
I liked the dining room scene where Carmen was having a ball and bringing others with her, all the while torturing Grumps.
Irma: Cops a plea, gets off with probation, marries the coma Doc and goes to work for a drug company specializing in induced coma drugs. They have 12 kids, all with narcolepsy.
David
I liked the dining room scene where Carmen was having a ball and bringing others with her, all the while torturing Grumps.
Irma: Cops a plea, gets off with probation, marries the coma Doc and goes to work for a drug company specializing in induced coma drugs. They have 12 kids, all with narcolepsy.
David
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 12:50:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 12:50:00 PM EDT
Vivi thanks for the great recap. I had an LOL moment when you "forgot" to recap El and Carmen in the kitchen. Hot stuff.
I remain disappointed in Irma's continuing to be Rod's lackey and potential murderer. You've got the attention of a doctor, who appears to like you, but you want a guy, who has told you are you nothing to him.
My hope is that Paolo doesn't get so upset by this meddling that he becomes part of the gang. Since Abdul is acting out, the writers might have Paolo go that route as well.
I'm with Diana and Irene's behavior last night wasn't worthy of Tad. Sometimes I wish things weren't so beanie stretching.
I remain disappointed in Irma's continuing to be Rod's lackey and potential murderer. You've got the attention of a doctor, who appears to like you, but you want a guy, who has told you are you nothing to him.
My hope is that Paolo doesn't get so upset by this meddling that he becomes part of the gang. Since Abdul is acting out, the writers might have Paolo go that route as well.
I'm with Diana and Irene's behavior last night wasn't worthy of Tad. Sometimes I wish things weren't so beanie stretching.
David- LOL! I love it.
Karen- It was very hard for me not to rewind and watch that scene again, and again. Especially since there was nothing of importance being said and one has to take advantage of scenes that don't serve the plot that can be ffwd when you're recapping two hours.
Karen- It was very hard for me not to rewind and watch that scene again, and again. Especially since there was nothing of importance being said and one has to take advantage of scenes that don't serve the plot that can be ffwd when you're recapping two hours.
Oops, where are my manners?
Meant to add that I really enjoyed your recap, Vivi. You do such a good job even with these 2 hour long episodes.
I catch most of the action, but miss some things, and you never fail to flesh those things out for me.
David
Meant to add that I really enjoyed your recap, Vivi. You do such a good job even with these 2 hour long episodes.
I catch most of the action, but miss some things, and you never fail to flesh those things out for me.
David
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
Karen- Yes. I could see a storyline where Paolo decides to join the gang just to prove his manliness to everyone. But, from what we have seen in his various confrontations, he can clearly hold his own in a fight. Yet at the same time he's sweet and secure enough to play with dolls with his little sister, accept a hug from his male boss, and wear a lavender suit without thinking twice about it.
David- You're welcome. And my favorite part of the whole dinner and dancing was also how Carmen's effusiveness was the polar opposite of Grumps and totally annoying to him. :)
thanks Fatima and as Vivi said gringo is anxiously waiting La Gata. I'm gonna try it because of Daniel Arenas but if it starts to smell like CI, oh god.
Vivi, I know its not good to play favorites but ITA Lupita saying Paolo is her favorite sib. All those qualities you mentioned and he's a sweetheart. His character reminds me of dear Pablo from AB. People can say nice is boring but in tns (and real life) I find them refreshing.
tofie, though I love DA those previews look so much like CI it makes me scared.
tofie, though I love DA those previews look so much like CI it makes me scared.
Thanks, Vivi,for that excellent recap.
I got a big kick out of Carmen turning the elegant foyer into a dance floor. She was even able to coerce GrumpyGramps to dust off his dusty moves and dance with her. My guess is that by the end of this novela when Natty finally weds the real Diego, Carmen will have completely charmed and changed Old Sourpuss , and they will be dancing up a storm together....maybe a little Salsa or Regaton. I would love to see that. By the way, did anyone watch the Bailando show on Sunday night ? The actress playing Nat was a host, and BoyToyRoy from AV ...he of the red pants and high heeled sneakers ....was dancing.
I agree that Paolo may decide to join the gang to prove that he is a manly man.
David...I liked your storyline about Irma and The Doctor. Let's name those 12 kids...I'll start...Rosa, Ninive, Janeth, Juan, Jose, Homero....
I got a big kick out of Carmen turning the elegant foyer into a dance floor. She was even able to coerce GrumpyGramps to dust off his dusty moves and dance with her. My guess is that by the end of this novela when Natty finally weds the real Diego, Carmen will have completely charmed and changed Old Sourpuss , and they will be dancing up a storm together....maybe a little Salsa or Regaton. I would love to see that. By the way, did anyone watch the Bailando show on Sunday night ? The actress playing Nat was a host, and BoyToyRoy from AV ...he of the red pants and high heeled sneakers ....was dancing.
I agree that Paolo may decide to join the gang to prove that he is a manly man.
David...I liked your storyline about Irma and The Doctor. Let's name those 12 kids...I'll start...Rosa, Ninive, Janeth, Juan, Jose, Homero....
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:22:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:22:00 PM EDT
Kat, I'll echo Vivi's endorsement of your excellent "She has worth because she's a human, and it's not diminished by the number of sexual partners she's had." Totally.
tofie, Fatima and David, wonderful to see you all here.
Karen, Paolo is a sweetheart. Pure, simple and refreshing. Absolutely.
Diana
tofie, Fatima and David, wonderful to see you all here.
Karen, Paolo is a sweetheart. Pure, simple and refreshing. Absolutely.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:24:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:24:00 PM EDT
Karen...I think nice is nice. I like nice in novelas and especially in real life. Wouldn't the world be great and life easier if more people were just....nice.
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:26:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 2:26:00 PM EDT
David/Diva: LOL
The kids' names would be Sleepy, Dopey, Droopy, Nodsy, Dosy, Drowsy, Snoozy, Tucker(ed), Pooped, Weary, Nappy, and Rodrigo.
The kids' names would be Sleepy, Dopey, Droopy, Nodsy, Dosy, Drowsy, Snoozy, Tucker(ed), Pooped, Weary, Nappy, and Rodrigo.
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 30, 2014 at 4:25:00 PM EDT
: Friday, May 30, 2014 at 4:25:00 PM EDT
Thank you Vivi. I'm just getting home and reading this. I haven't even gotten to see the episode yet, but I'm going to try to catch the lavender suit.
David-Loved the plot twist!
Great names Anon!
La Gata's ratings get higher and higher in Mexico each week. It will take a CI turn I am sure and get extended beyond believe-ability, but I am a sucker and will probably give it a try (though part of me wants to ban Uni from my life.)
David-Loved the plot twist!
Great names Anon!
La Gata's ratings get higher and higher in Mexico each week. It will take a CI turn I am sure and get extended beyond believe-ability, but I am a sucker and will probably give it a try (though part of me wants to ban Uni from my life.)
Tks Vivi, your usual great recap
Don't forget, La Gata is a Mrs Mejia production. Anything by los Mejia is mierda. I'm just worried about that beautiful black cat, it should not be subjected to anything Mejia. Por favor, where is the ASPCA?
Loved the dinner, Carmen can win anyone over, even Grumps.
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Don't forget, La Gata is a Mrs Mejia production. Anything by los Mejia is mierda. I'm just worried about that beautiful black cat, it should not be subjected to anything Mejia. Por favor, where is the ASPCA?
Loved the dinner, Carmen can win anyone over, even Grumps.
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