Thursday, April 16, 2015

La sombra del pasado #43 4/16/15 There are dirty words. Read with caution.

I think I got a set up episode. I felt like it was all over the place, but not in a wasting time kind of way. There are things afoot in Santa Lucia!

El Refrito
Severiano(Sev) convinces Candela(Cande to let down her hair.

Lo Nuevo
It's late and Slivia is surprised Renato is still in his office and notes how tense he is. It's understandable. He's dealing with the death of his mother and his unrequited love for Aldonza. Sylvia gets mighty handsy and asks about how things are going with Aldonza. Renato confesses that things are not going well. He fears it's a lost battle. Sylvia takes this to mean "please kiss me" and she obliges. Renato responds, but soon gets himself under control and tells he tells Sylvia that what they are doing is not a good idea. Sylvia disagrees and continues applying her stress relieving techniques. Little Renato takes over...if you know what I mean.


Sev and Cande have spent the night together. Dominga is shocked, but pleased. She takes the breakfast tray and quietly backs away.

Emmanuel(E-man) is in a rush to get to work and refused breakfast. He convinces the maid to search Prudencia's(Pru) room for the Casa de Caramelos. Alex Sirvent is such a cutie.

Pru has a really weird thing in her hair and I think it's her attempt to look younger. She takes care to choose the right lipstick. She doesn't want to appear slutty. She goes for a more casual color?(Yeah, I'm pretty sure I didn't quite catch that correctly.)

Dominga tells Melesio(Mel) that it's been years since the Mr and Mrs of the house have slept in the same bed. Mel basically says it's about time they got laid and maybe they'll be in a better mood now. (I took some MAJOR liberties with this dialog.) Cristobal overhears and he's happy his parents slept in the same room. He hopes that means they still love each other.

Reanato is discussing an unrelated case. Sylvia slips in and tells him she had a great time last night. Renato really regrets what happened. He really shouldn't have let it go so far. Sylvia thinks that the fact that he did means he must feel something for her. Well, he does care for her, but he doesn't feel for her what she feels for him. He felt vulnerable. She thinks he just used her. She thinks they deserve to give it another try. Renato apologizes and says he'll take responsibility for letting it go too far. Sylvia tells him he's just all the other guys. He calls himself an idiot when she leaves. (Recapper reaction: Shit. They've slept together. Hope she's on the pill. She's probably not. Shit.)

Aldonza is now the proud owner of a new truck. Too bad neither she nor Adelina know how to drive. They have to call Padre Jeronimo(Padre J) to come get them and the truck.

Renato packs his suitcase and informs his father he's heading back to Santa Lucia. Renato admits that he's running away from the pain. Dad worries that instead of healing his wounds, Aldonza is going to open new ones. Are there monkeys in the house? Birds? What were those screeching sounds?

Padre J has gotten the ladies home and gives them the keys to the truck. Aldonza asks about the canaries and Adelina tells her they are from Abelardo's(Lardo) mother. Conversation turns to Cris. Adelina tells Aldonza came to see her. Aldonza tells Adelina she already saw him. Adelina warns that Aldonza's plans for revenge may hurt Cris. How will she avoid that? Because he still seems pretty in love and will do anything for Aldonza to return that love. Aldonza is sure that after what she told him last night he won't want to be with her. (Recapper reaction: QTH? Girlfriend, all you said was "I hate your dad more than anyone in the world". Dramatic? Sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean Cris is going to suddenly let go of his love for you. There's a world of difference between "I hate your dad" and "Your dad raped me.")

Melesio and Cris have an incredibly long talk. Upshot: Mel advises Cris not to be so clingy, needy and stalky. Step back. Don't pay her as much attention. Aldonza is a little too sure that she has Cris's affection. Make her doubt a little. (Recapper reaction: Shit. We've got Pru advising Valeria to make Cris jealous and Mel is telling Cris to give Aldonza pause to think. Oh and lets throw in Cande's advice to Val that she make Aldonza look bad. This is not going to go well...but it should keep our couple apart for a good 30 episodes until they come up with some other way to keep them apart.)

Hmmm. Lo Imperdonable Promo. May 18th 9/8c. That's nice. Get thee from me Satan Mejia.

Simoneta goes to Irma's shop to "buy thread". That's code for "scope out the daughter I abandoned." They make small talk about the engagement party and introduce each other. Simoneta asks for directions to the post office. Lola offers to show her around Santa Lucia sometime.

The maid calls E-man. Has she found the casa de caramelos? Nope. And she's turned the house upside down!

Pru has taken the house to Tomas's house. She agrees to come in.

Cris asks Sev if he and Cande would please stop giving Aldonza a hard time. Sev swears that he and Cande just want the best for Cris and that Aldonza is not good for him. Cris thinks that's his decision. Sev reminds him that he said he loved Valeria and look what happened. Cris admits that he was confused. Now he's sure the woman he loves is Aldonza. Sev tells him that he feels desire, not love. And he only feels that way because he can't have her. Cris tells his dad he has no idea what he feels....now we come to the crude part of the conversation. Sev decides to spew some assholery. Maybe Cris will get a chance to be with Aldonza and he will realize that she's been with other men. Cris (to his credit) shrugs it off. Well, he's been with other women. No bigs. Damn. I have to calm down. I'm taking one for the team here folks. Sev (deep breath)...Sev says that's not the same thing. Aldonza's mother was a slut and those kinds of things run in the blood (ISBIS, but that is just not the right thing to say here, but you get me, right? Gawd Sev is a dick.) Cris (again to his credit) tells him to hush. He doesn't want to end up fighting with his father. Sev agrees and will respect Cris. Cris says none of it mattes anyway since he's decided not to pursue Aldonza anymore. He finally understands she doesn't want anything to him. Sev hopes that with time Cris will understand it is the best decision.

Pru asks Tomas to hold on to her candy house for safekeeping (*snort* That sounded dirty.) He rightly assumes there's more to the story than she's letting on. (Rcapper's reaction: I know, right? It's a damn candy house and some of us are really interested in the fate of the thing. Who'd have thunk that a decades old candy house would hold so much intrigue? All I can think of is that comment about hard candies you find in the couch on moving day. Who was it that said that?) He wants a kiss for payment, but Pru refuses. She's a married woman. So she is forced to take her candy house and turns to go. Tomas stops her "Can you get the door or do you need me to open it?" Not exactly what she was expecting. She goes back to the couch and agrees to one kiss...which gets a little out of hand and they are interrupted by Tomas's parents. I'm a little disappointed that Pru decides to go cougar for a guy who still lives with his parents.

Gosh the cut in from the commercial was quick and Val was pretty much mid sentence. She's mad because 'Lardo hasn't dug up any dirt on Aldonza. He needs more time. All Val wants is for Cris to find out that Aldonza is not the sweet saint he thinks she is. It wasn't enough that I had to listen to a bunch of crap from Sev, now I have to listen to the shit from Aldonza too. She's pretty sure that there is plenty of dirty laundry in Aldonza's hamper. The girl lived in the DF with her mother...who knew a lot about men. Surely Aldonza picked up some tricks from her mother. Val wants Lardo to find out all he can about Aldonza.

I'm not going to do justice to this scene because I'm lazy, but it really was funny. In a panic Pru comes up with some cockamamie story about being in the Decadence League. Tomas's father asks if she means Decency League and she explains she's from the Decadent Decency League. They want to help the youth of SL mend their ways or some such. So they are offering to come around for bible study/bible reading. Tomas's mother is so pleased that he's interested in pursuing this and dad is happy to have them use the house for such a noble purpose.

Renato arrives in his big city car. Aldonza shows off her new truck and asks Renato to teach her how to drive. Joaquin pulls up as they leave.

Tomas gives Pru a hard time about her story. She explains it was the first thing that popped into her head. Tomas is looking forward to the delicious bible passages they are going to be reading.

Simoneta finds a lounging Lardo lizard waiting when she gets home. He has an extra set of keys and just wanted to know if she needed anything. He finally leaves and the phone rings. It's Sev. He doesn't like her tone. She should be grateful he found the time to call. She knows exactly what's been occupying his time. She saw him getting mighty cuddly with his wife!!

Meanwhile, Dominga tells Cande that Val called. Cande grabs the upstairs extension to return the call. She gets an earful. (The following is just a loose goosey transcription.)
Sev: Are you spying on me, Sim?
Sim: You've left me totally abandoned and now you're getting lovey dovey with your wife?
Sev: Look, honey. It's just a strategy. The only woman that interests me is you!
Cande: *sob*
Sev: Shit. Hangup. Someone's listening.
Cande: Yeah! It's your friggin' WIFE you asshole.
Adelina was not pleased to hear about Joaquin staying at the cantina almost all night. He just didn't want to go home. He didn't exactly call Flavia a shrew, but he called her a shrew. Adelina is really worried about his marriage and what his job with them is doing to that marriage. She begs him to turn down Aldonza's offer to be a part of "Mis Planes." (Still no hint as to what Mis Planes might be.) He protests that he's already promised. Adelina plays the "feelings" card. If you really feel what you say you feel for me, you won't accept. He promises to think about it. She asks him to not to say anything to Aldonza.

Sev tries to explain himself and Cande tells him to go to hell. Everyone hangs up the phone. Dominga asks Cande what's wrong and gets yelled at for her troubles. Cande screeches for her to leave. Cande sobs alone. Dare I say I feel a little sorry for her? Poor thing got her hopes up again, just to have them dashed.

Mel gets mad at Lola for looking for E-man. Dominga isn't happy about it either. Lola explains about the Casa de Caramelos. Damn this house has become a character. And damn Lola talks fast. I'm pretty sure the upshot of the scene is "stop chasing E-man. We don't want to see you hurt." (Sorry, dears. I'm feeling super lazy tonight.)

Sev begs at the door like the dog that he is (and that's kind of insulting to dogs.) Cande finally lets him in....if only so she can slap the shit out of him and tell him to leave again. He refuses to leave and she doesn't want to hear his excuses. He can't believe it bothers her so much that he has another woman. She tearfully explains that she gave herself to him and he repaid her in this manner?! He swears that that is precisely why he was talking to that woman. He had decided to leave his lover! Cande is not buying it. He swears he loves her. She admits to being weak, but she swears on her son that she'll never give in to Sev again. He's just a bundle of animal desires. He always has been...ever since he slept with Roberta. Oh...hell. More shit to piss me off. He blames Cande. She was the one that "denied" him what he needed. Bastard. She's mad about a situation she created. Asshole. Cande yells at him to leave.

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Aaand done!
 

Oh Em Gee! Thank you for getting this up so fast, because I just finished watching and I MUST DISCUSS!

"Little Renato takes over...if you know what I mean." Oh, I know what you mean! Stupid, stupid, stupid move! Looks like Sylvia is going to go the crazyjealousstalker route. Greeeeeat. "Recapper reaction: Shit. They've slept together. Hope she's on the pill. She's probably not. Shit." Right there with you.

The entire kitchen conversation was just...so inappropriate! Don't be gossiping about your bosses' sex lives in the middle of the kitchen! How many times has Dominga busted Cande eavesdropping. Pobre de Cris...yeah, sure, kid. They still love each other. And also, Santa Claus is totally real. Here's a lollipop. Now go outside and play with the pretty horsies.

"Pru has taken the house to Tomas's house." At least if she's snogging him, I don't have to look at his face, so...win? Any sentence involving Pru and the candy house is just bound to sound dirty from now on.

"Aldonza's mother was a slut and those kinds of things run in the blood." Really, Sev? So when are you going to tell Cris that he's actually a murderer and a rapist? Or does that not "run in the blood"? Eff off, Sev.

Valeria can also piss off with the crap about Aldonza learning stuff from her mother. So, I guess Val learned how to be a spoiled, drunk-ass, whiny...oh, no, wait, I'm contradicting my original point....

Ok, so I have to chime in with the "league"...first it was the Decadence League, then Papa Tomas asked if it wasn't supposed to be the Decency League, so Pru said no the Decency League is something else, she's from the Decadent Decency League.

I would like to establish a chapter of the Decadence League where we swill booze and eat chocolate at all our meetings. We won't actually do anything that could remotely be considered a public service. We'd just...be decadent.

Your translation of the phone scene cracked me up. Loosey goosey? If I'd been writing the script, that's exactly what it would have said! Instead it was all weepy...I felt sorry for Candela! That's not right! I don't want to feel sorry for her! And Sev can eff off about the whole "Well, you weren't giving me what I needed" crap. Run into another machete, Sev.

Did I already say thank you for the recap? Well, thank you for the recap!
 

I would like to join your decadence league please. :-)
 

I feel like this wasn't one of those episodes that will garner a lot of discussion. Nothing to really debate. Sev was clearly and ass. Pru was clearly horny. And Val was clearly vile.

And when I started I thought maybe it was set up. But now that I'm thinking about it more, maybe not.
 

Have we had a lot of "throwaway" stuff in previous episodes? It might be that a few weeks from now, we'll realize why some of the stuff that happened tonight was important after all. And, heck, if this is what we get for a "filler" or a "setup" episode, that still beats some of the crap we get for most of La G*ta.
 

Thank you Sara, for the awesome, speedy recap!

I was laughing so hard during the Pru Tomas scene, and the Decadencia Decencia League was one of my favorite bits. The blasphemy of using a youth bible study to get her cougar on just blew me away. Wow, Pru!
 

And I don't mind looking at Tomas' face because he makes me laugh, and I remember his role in Pobres.
 

It really was a funny scene. A perfect vehicle for Cynthia.

Normally I'm not a fan of comedy bits plopped into a melodrama, but they are doing a great job with it here.
 

Is someone making a list of how many folks have been in possession of the candy house? Shop Lady, Lola, E-man, Pru, Tomas. But it all started with the mysterious Candy Man who gave it to Shop Lady.
 

I'm still wondering how damn old the thing is.

I know, I know candy doesn't "go bad"...but damn...
 

Because really. I need to tighten my beanie on this.

"Oh. Lola. Thank you. You brought me a candy house. That's decades old. How thoughtful."

And did Shop Lady store it in a fridge? Mexico has a pretty humid, buggy climate. Just sayin'.
 

I also know that Al is stubborn, willful and impulsive, but I did giggle along with her at the fact that neither she nor Adelina know how to drive, and just bought this truck. I like seeing her with that impish smile on her face. It's nice to know that despite what's happened to her, and her serious "mis planes", she has a sense of humor about things.
 

I enjoy seeing her smile, too. I like to think that she did get some sort of counseling and that she is learning to find happiness again.
 

I'm not using a beanie for the candy house. I'm just going along with it. I'll pull out the beanie the episode someone actually tries to eat a piece of the ancient house.
 

Vivi, that's such a great turn of phrase, "The blasphemy of using a youth bible study to get her cougar on just blew me away." I love it!

Ok, I think, if this were a lit class, and I were writing a paper about the significance of the candy house, I'd have to say that it represents desires that can't be articulated. Yeah, that sounds about right, right? Candy Man wanted to marry Shop Lady. Lola wanted Emmanuel to love her. Pru wanted to snog Tomas. Well, at least Lola and Pru DID get what they wanted...but I get the feeling Shop Lady never opened up the house to find out that Candy Man wanted to marry her :(
 

Sara - thank you for the recap! Up so quickly, too. I can't wait to watch this episode.

That candy house is getting to be like the traveling garden gnome. It needs its own Facebook page or Twitter feed.
 

It needs its own Facebook page or Twitter feed.

LOL! What would a casa de caramelos say?


 

Casa de Caramelos

Relationship status: Single

Casa de Caramelos is at "Casa de Tomas"

Status update: Duuuuuuuuuuude, I just witnessed some major league snogging. This is way better than the view I had at "Armario de Emmanuel"!
 

Ha!

But I would think relationship status would be "It's complicated."
 

Yes! It's complicated!

Casa de Caramelos could write an entire recap...of course, it might have to get some information second-hand, but that's not a problem in Santa Lucia. Eeeeeeverything gets around.
 

I eagerly await that recap.

No pressure CdC.
 

I'm hoping someone else does it on a night when they're spontaneously inspired. It's never any good when you have to force it.

Should we have some Casa de Caramelos merchandise in the shop? Maybe a ceramic one that's really a piggy bank? Or a candy jar...ha!
 

OH, I forgot: Thank you, Kat, Vivi and doris!!
 

Yes. We definitely need Casa de Caramelos merchandise.

"Spontaneously inspired", I love when that happens. The last time I felt that was when I did the ABC post for DQTQTQ...and that was about a year ago.

What the hell brain?
 

"It's complicated." LOL!
 

Hoot hoot hoot! Great episode, super wow great recap--Thank you Sara!

I will take credit for the couch that hides hard candy and doesn't give it up until moving day. :o)

Random thoughts: I find Tomas repellent but also the teensiest bit attractive...in a very smarmy way. I will be LMAO if the fake Bible readings cause him to experience a religious conversion.

But the Master of Smarm is Sev, who tells Cande it's HER fault he was cheating. Is that line supposed to make women feel bad? Cande can't twist her hair any tighter, I wonder what form her revenge will take?

The candy house now has its own musical score (that tense violin music). Yes to the garden gnome reference, wasn't that a French movie, "Aurelie", where the gnome got sent all over the world?

J in Oregon




 

J, it was Amelie...such a sweet movie!

"Cande can't twist her hair any tighter, I wonder what form her revenge will take?" I was wondering if she would do another makeover...maybe this time she'll cut her hair or something. She's done Big Hair, braids...maybe she can do some of that ombre, highlighting, with layers or something.

Sev's makeover can involve lowering his body mass. And I don't mean with a sensible diet and exercise. (Too harsh?)
 

Diva-- Thanks, yes I meant "Amelie". And as far as Cande, I was thinking revenge more like scrubbing the toilet with Sev's toothbrush. Oh wait--she would have to get Dominga to do that for her. Heehee!

Woe to Sev if Cande and Simoneta ever join forces...

And as far as I'm concerned, Sev can start losing more body parts any time now.

J in O
 

J! That's terrible!

Hahahahahahahahahaha! I love it! Maybe he also needs a little Nair in his shampoo....
 

Thanks, Dara, for this speedy quick recap. I missed the first 15 minutes of the show.

I think that there is a movie called ''The Wedding Dress'' about a gown that goes from person to person. Then, there is ''The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants'' about girl pals and a pair of jeans. Maybe we should think of this show as ''The Sisterhood of the Traveling Candy house.''
 

Forgot to mention another line that made me laugh. When Dominga accuses Lola of just using the candy house as a pretext to see E-man, and that she still feels something for him, Lola says how could she not. He's so damned hot! El condenado esta bien guapo! I hear ya, Lola.
 

First things first--Spectacular Sara. Couldn't wait to see your take on last nights events. What an episode! And may I say as well...

Shit! Shit! Shit!

I am furious at the writers right now. So ok, Renato wasn't going to be end game for you, but you just had to make him go all "but he's a guy" and now Sylvia is coming off all self-righteous after throwing herself at the guy, who I might mention was not in the best frame of mind. I get it it, he caved and we're supposed to maybe not like him for that? She comes bounding in preggers later, I'll be putting the writers' pictures up on the dart board. I tried to put this in the perspective of Cris' comment that he slept with other women too, make him and Renato on same footing, but no, still ticked me off.

I have to tell you, I am so enjoying this Pru/Tomas hook up. That scene from when she threw him back on the couch to the whole Decadent League...wonderful!! The pillow move...almost spit my coffee. More of these two please.

Allie was so cute with that truck. I mean, the girl hasn't had much to be excited about. Let her have her truck.

As to our resident scum bag. I'm with you J, he can start losing other body parts soon. But can I say how well that was all played by both parties? I admit, I felt for Cande. Now, does she turn on her hubby and start thinking different? Or does she get worse in the control my son mode? I would love to see her become Sev's worst enemy - with all the secrets she knows. What would he do?

Daisynjay


 

J- thank you for owning the couch candy comment. I was feeling too lazy to go back and find it. I second (or maybe I'm thirding) the vote for the loss of more body parts.

I need to listen better for the Casa de Caramelos theme.

Susanlynn - my daughter loved The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants!

Kat- nair is the shampoo? Perfect for Sev. (note to self- do NOT piss off Kat.)
 

Our comments crossed Daisynjay - that pillow was great! And he was still needing it after all the talk about Bible reading and noble pursuits. He was holding if when he... um.. Popped up to hug his parents.

Vivi - I'd use any excuse to see Emanuel too! Muy guapo! And so versatile! I totally believe his young innocent her and his older professional doctor self on QA!
 

What is better than Friday? Friday with a sensational recap from our Sara!

I laughed out loud as soon as I saw the title. You did masterful justice to this pivotal and to me, very sad episode. TAhank you for translating the now infamous phone call conversation.

"Upshot: Mel advises Cris not to be so clingy, needy and stalky", "Get thee from me Satan Mejia and "Simoneta goes to Irma's shop to "buy thread". That's code for "scope out the daughter I abandoned" were a few of my favorites from my pared down list.

Renato? At first, my heart sank. But, he has been through a terrible, emotional trauma. And he is starting to realize his quest for Aldonza is fruitless. Still, it wasn't fair to Sylvia. Or himself. I also thought that pregnancy might result. We will have to see.

“Cristobal overhears and he's happy his parents slept in the same room. He hopes that means they still love each other”. Ahh, poor naive Cris…

The Sev Cande coupling (united by their quest for vengence) and uncoupling were both equally sad to me. They are so driven by hatred they are destroying themselves and each other in the process.

I smiled thinking what Mel might have said to Dom about the previous night. I can only imagine!

Cynthia Klitbo is playing her part to the hilt. So funny watching her trying to worm her way out of an obviously awkward situation.

Kat, sign me up for the Decadence League. With chocolate. Please.

J, "Cande can't twist her hair any tighter, I wonder what form her revenge will take?" - hysterical. Your noting Cande might be Sev's greatest enemy now daisy was spot on.

Wonderful comments.

Sara, thank you! You've made my day.

Diana
 

Thank you, Sara! Fast, funky (that's a compliment, kind of like "earthy") and FUNny! You didn't miss a thing and communicated the hole tenor of the episode perfectly with the narrative and the title! BAM!

Uh. So Silvia says Renato used her? Is it always the fault or responsibility of the partner with the projection? Can one ever say "she asked for it" and not get stoned? If so, this is one of those times. Give me a barfing break, Sylvia! You got what you went for. And, weren't they in the office? Whatever. Her growing midsection will totally put Aldonza off Renato now. That's ok. I'm hanging with the still doe-eyed, clueless Cris. I hope he DOES give Aldonza stalking a break.

Hmmm. Lo Imperdonable Promo. May 18th 9/8c. That's nice. Get thee from me [Satan] Mejia. Hee Hee! Preach, Sister!

I'm a little disappointed that Pru decides to go cougar for a guy who still lives with his parents.
Totally, Sara! How stoopid! You know what, I totally loved and agreed with HelleShelle's analysis of Pru and Humberto's relationship in Tuesday's comments and I've been thinking about what she said. It seems to me that Pru is emotionally immature in her perceptions and expressioins. That doesn't mean she's always wrong or stupid, just immature. This could be why she gets ignored in her own home and gets along best with her daughter not in the mother role, but when they're being two mean girls, like in their treatment of E-man. Pru certainly notices how she's dismissed and thus the drinking. But I thought it was so impulsive and childish for her to think Hum was having an affair with Donnie based on the "evidence" Cande and Val brought her. And then to hit Aldonza upside the head with a rock in the town square was also 3rd grade worthy!

A woman married to THE Dr. in SL to even consider a tryst with an idiot scrub who still lives with his parents is just more like a 15 year old than a cougar. Anyway, I don't see Pru getting dark, just dumber.

He didn't exactly call Flavia a shrew, but he called her a shrew. Hee Hee!

Love it, Sara! LOVE it! Thank you, Girl!




 

Sara! I love it! You and Diva were ON POINT this week! Hilarious! Since people have mentioned many of the moments that make me laugh, I'm going to take a second to applaud your Recaper Reactions: YES. Especially the one on her saying she hates Sev most in the world. That would make me really curious for a good long while before it made me write someone off entirely. And yeah, with the trifecta Mel's advice to Cris, Cande's advice to Val, Pru's advice to Val plus the truth, we've got good fuel to keep these two apart.

What is ISBIS?

On the Candy House: Ok, truth be told, I've found a Hershey kiss buried in the back of my work drawer for god knows how long and I ate it, so there's hope for the candy house.




 

ISBIS= it sounds better in Spanish. They started using it when Reina de Corazones was airing on Telemundo (doris knows the deets.... I'd this another wonderful NovelaMaven turn of phrase?)

Anyhooo my English translation sounded ridiculous, but the message sucked in any language so ISBIS word wise but not meaning wise. ¿captas?
 

Thank you Sara!

hehe, "lounging Lardo lizard"

If we hadn't figured it before, "Gawd Sev is a dick"

Sylvia proved Renato is not perfect and I'm glad she pointed it out to him and he was quite willing.

Lila, with you on Pru, and while comic both sad and disgusting.

Severiano - come on baby, there's enough left of me to go around

Hard Candy House - glad he didn't use me to hide his erection

Emmanuel - my ass is grass

Pru - how low can you go

Renato - sit in my lap and take the wheel

Aldonza - got my eye on a crop duster next but how to get it home

Mel - shoot boy, I was a babe magnet in my day

Cande - and to think I nibbled on your stump

 

Oh, gawd Tofie!

Cande - and to think I nibbled on your stump

Tofie, YOU ARE INSANE! Insanely funny! I accused you once of being a stand up comic: if that's not your main drag, it's got to be a hobbie! You slay me! The whole list is hilarious but this is Depends-worthy!

Do you ever guest recap? I would love the read an entire recap by you -- wearing Depends!

Lila


 

"Hard Candy House - glad he didn't use me to hide his erection"
Oh dear me .... that reminds me of the SNL video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgPcwLTMWo
D*ck in A Box
(LOL tofie!)
 

Good morning, Sara! Boy, you were on fire last night, and I enjoyed every word and phrase that you crafted.

Cande looked downright vulnerable with her hair down, and when she blundered into Sev's phone call, she looked devastated.

When my wife and I are kidding around (I think) she will sometimes say, "I guess I could have done worse." Well, Cande, with her current understanding, can't say that, and she doesn't know even one tenth of her husband's depravity.

Left a comment earlier, and it evaporated. Hope this one makes it through.

Thanks again, Sara!

David
 

Ah! Thanks for the explanation, Sara. Gotta remember that one, because it's so often true.

Tofie - LOL!!! Hard Candy House takes it!

Sorry, didn't say morning y'all! Got my coffee and my free, but not-good-for-me breakfat pastry and I"m already to procrastinate on my day for a little longer while I caray up my morning :)

Idk what you guys are talking about last night being filler. Last night has me riveted!

Silvia had me smh last night. Renato lamely tried to stop them and she was the one that was like "let yourself go, don't think, blah blah blah" She's been honest with herself so far, don't know y she's getting delusional now. Maybe with Aldie gone for a couple of days, she thought she saw some hope?

I'll admit it: I felt for Cande. I felt for her when Rob threw the affair in her face the first time, I feel for her now. She let years of distrust and resentment slide to the side in the name of hope and got run straight into a wall for her troubles. To hear him say it was all a strategy? And who knows if she recognized Sim's voice, but if she did, to know that she invited that woman into her home, to a family event, that she spoke words of praise about her? Oh no. That is HARSH. SO HARSH. Not saying she doesn't deserve it, karmically speaking, but ouch.

Oh Pru. Just...wow. But at least it was kind of funny. And somehow her infidelity doesn't feel nearly as serious as anyone else's. If Hum was having an affair, it would be serious, but maybe it's because of that immaturity Lila mentioned, hers doesn't feel the same. I'm surprised I don't feel more disappointed about it.

Sim...idk there either. I feel like she sees Lola as a mild curiosity and I don't like that.

 

Thank you tofie! Another great list!! I have to agree that the Tomas entry is pretty good and doris I immediately thought of that SNL skit!

hellashelle- I don't feel like it was filler. We really don't have filler in this show. There are just some episodes that feel like they are setting up for some major happenings.
 

David-Thank you! "blundered into Sev's phone call" is a perfect description. And she did look devastated! I really think the braids being undone added to her vulnerability.
 

When are these women gonna stop enabling Severiano? Why suffer repeated humiliations? Is this the final straw for Cande or does she just strap down and ride it out for another 20 years? What's he got if she pulls her support and puts his sorry ass out? He just treated her like his other tarts? As much as I want to know about Cande & PJ, I want to know what lurks in Severiano's past before he married and bedded Cande.
 

Hi again...back from getting kids ready for school and enjoying the comments.

Tofie...you are wound up this morning...wow.

In an art reflecting life moment, I was cleaning out a top cabinet that I need to climb on a step stool to reach, and I discovered a Tupperware container of white chocolate and buckeyes all individually wrapped that was supposed to be Christmas gifts for 2013 . YIKES.

Hey, what if Sylvia AND Cande are both pregnant ? Now that would be a couple of interesting storylines.

Every time I see those painfully tight braids on Candy, I think of my sister. My mother always put her red hair in pigtails.One day, one felt a little too tight , so my sister took a scissors to relieve that pain.However, she did not cut completely through the braid, so that night as my mother took out her braids, she was suddenly holding a hank of hair in her hand.

Sara..sorry I called you ''Dara'' in my first comment. I am slightly wonkier than usual at 5.45 am....slightly.
 

No worries, Susanlynn! Dara is better than A-hole! ;-)

I'm kind of laughing at the story about your sister's braids? Is that wrong of me?

tofie-I've often thought about how much Cande has put up with. It's definitely a beanie tightening plot device.
 

We saw the maker put a ring in it. Do we know if he was the giver of the ring, or if he was making it to order for a customer? (because I cannot remember) This Candy House surely must have significance or it would not be making the rounds, as such.

Crackpot Theory™ here re: the Candy House..... because my overactive imagination wonders if:
1.) perhaps Raymund *or* PadJer had it made originally for Cande? BUT maybe it was
a.) never delivered or
b.) delivered but rejected before the ring was discovered

2.) thus leaving
a.) Ray to marry Roberta *or*
b.) PadJer to go into seminary?
 

My Crackpot Theory(™):

Mel's past is somehow connected to this house. I don't know how or why I even think that but I'm going with it. It's the crackiest of potted theories.
 

Sara..Laugh away..my whole extended family does including my sister. It is a cherished family tale.

Did anyone else find it interesting that Mel was totally comfortable lounging poolside and pouring multiple shots for Chris and himself as he advised him. I wonder how the lord of the manor would have reacted if he had seen them.

Severed is losing control of everything,,.arrogant ass.

Did anyone else notice that Sim's new place looks like Lardo's house ?


 

Oh dear, I hope she's not in his neighborhood! Good thing she got the keys back from that little slime!
 

Lila, asked for it? Instigated it! And to me "dejame consentirte" makes it sound all selfless... then she shows up the next morning being all unprofessional while he's on a business call and getting bent out of shape because her nookie didn't make him realize she's the one he really wants. I'm just shaking my head. It's unromantic of me, but I'm kind of glad? to not have sex=love. Sometimes a roll in the hay is just a roll in the hay, and as long as all the roll-ees are in agreement it works out fine. But now we've got Sylvia upset over "just sex"... and I guess Cande. And Lardo. And IMO Cande is the only one with a good reason for thinking it meant "something."
 

Ok, Diva, thanks. I was like, please Sylvia! YOU are the user! Add me to the people who felt for Cande. She did just what I told her to do when I first met her: lose the braid and get yourself laid. She did both and look where it got her: nothing but a tune up on her bitterness! It was as happy as we've seen her during this whole trip! She didn't even get 24 hours before Sev pulled the magic carpet from under her feet!

Even though it's Simoneta/Viviana, I'm sure this is going to end up being Aldonza's fault!

Lila
 

Honestly, when it comes down to it, I'm not sure Pru will go all in with Tomas. Thrill of the chase maybe? Feeling that someone finds her attractive and needed? I'm having fun watching Cynthia work her way through the do or don't.
TOmas' parents seemed halfway decent people, sort of like Uriel and Irma, where they heck did these these parents get such crummy kids? Something weird when the evil minions have the nice kids, and the nice people have the scum buckets.
So, have they parked the Mari/Em story line?

The chocolate on that house should be sort of OK as long as it is stored in a cool, dry place. Maybe it was for awhile, but that darn thing is working it's way all over now with the top going off and on. At some point, it's like a fruitcake. Gets hard and though somewhat edible, lost most of it's original, decent taste. I'm going to cringe if anyone ever takes an actual bite of it. Maybe it will get to it's rightful intended recipient and be dropped with the SURPRISE exposed. Doris, your crackpot theory may have something to it. It's symbolic of loves gone astray?

Cande preggers? I mean the odds are getting better and better one of our ladies is going to make that story line happen, but hadn't even thought of that.

Daisynjay


 

Lol, Lila, I HATE that I feel sorry for Cande! She was still basking in the afterglow when she heard that call! I mean, she let her hair down...and let her hair down...and he kicked her right in the...uh, ovaries.
 

As Hub likes to say, ''A tiger does not change its stripes.'' Twenty years celibate and Candy suddenly decides to let down her hair and give Severed another go. No...still the same guy. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame me..and you, you louse.

When you think about it, AL, Adelina, Dom, and Irma are the only women in this tn who are not being foolish about guys. Dom and Irma seem to be happily married , and AL and Ad are trying to be independent.
 

Daisynjay, Tomas' parents do seem to be nice people, but they're as naive as Uriel and Irma (if parents can be naive). They've let the kids get away with too much and think they can do no wrong. And in the case of Tomas and Lardo, the parents think it's the *other* kid who's the bad influence? Ay, yi, yi! It's as if they're a bad match for the kids they got. Cris with super nice parents...no problem. Lardo probably would be better off having been raised by Sev. He'd still be a sleaze, but he'd be a more competent, disciplined sleaze.
 

Susanlynn...it was the wine...wine is a bad advisor! I hope she gets tested for everything under the sun...por si acaso....

re: your question about Mel, I thought it was odd, too. In the middle of the workday? When there are horses and equipment and stuff needing to be dealt with? I would think he'd want his wits about him!

tofie, I think Cande could completely ruin Sev socially and financially any time she's ready, unless he's been squirreling away money of his own. I thought that was one of his motivations for wanting "his" land back--everything he has now is really Cande's and he's just working for her.
 

...because her nookie didn't make him realize she's the one he really wants.

Both Val and Sylvia seem to think that really good sex is enough to keep a man...which is really kind of insulting to the males of the species.

In fact there are a lot of characters who seem to confuse sex with love.


Dom/Mel and Uriel/Irma seem to be the only couples who really have a relationship. Every other couple is some how based in sex/desire....and for now that include Cris and Aldonza.

Renato and Aldonza have shown more "relationship" potential to me.
 

"Renato and Aldonza have shown more "relationship" potential to me"

I already consider them a couple and have since they spent so much time arm and arm last time he was in Santa Lucia. I'm not buying Aldonza is in love with Cris nor he with her and Severiano may have it correct, they once were in lust.
 

Oh, Kat I agree that there is something in the way Irma and Uriel parented that created their kids. I posted once that I actually saw in Irma a tendency to side with the kids and want to believe whatever they told her, no matter even the stance Uriel would take. I thought it was sooo apparent at the engagement party when Uriel wanted to haul Maria's butt out of there and her first reaction was to turn to Irma with a "MAMA???" whine. That time it didn't work, but I betcha it worked a lot for those kids growing up. Nice people, but you need a little discipline to go with the love of your kids.

Was wondering the reaction we will get from Cris tonight when he sees the icicles hanging in the air around Sev and Cande. If she was smart, she would have kicked the guys sorry ass out of the house and let Cris know why. He's a big boy. Renato learned about his father's infidelity...if we are mirroring these two guys, about time Cris learned about his father's. Could even leave Roberta out of this would still be bad enough.
But if she keeps quiet again all in the name of appearances, well then, live with it when it all implodes.

And since I am off a half day, and my Captcha just came up with fresh rolls and italian bread, I will now be walking down to the bakery and getting me some!

Daisynjay
 

Well, Severed is the local authority on lust. His lust for Roberta caused him to cheat on his young, beautiful, rich wife, murder his priest,burn his amante's husband, barn, and melons, and rape his amante's daughter. Chris does not seem to have inherited his dad's randiness...if Severed is indeed his dad. Instead, he seems infatuated with AL. Perhaps, she is the spitting image of his dream girl..the one he fantasizes about. I agree that they really do not know each other. Could he tell us her favorite ice cream flavor, shampoo, or author ? Renato probably could and would have a better chance competing on The Newlywed Game.
 

tofie-that's why I see so much more potential with Aldonza and Renato. They are working together to reach a goal. I guess that makes Sev and Cande a couple...but there's that weird sexual dynamic.
 

Teaching in a high school, you get to see a lot of people who seem to be perfectly nice people who have perfectly awful kids.
 

Ok. Since Susanlynn brought it up, I'm going to say something that will probably come out wrong. I swear I'm a nice person.

Most parents think their children are speshul little snoflaykes and cannot seem to see anything bad about them. All they want is for their child to be HAPPY...forgetting that happiness is a CHOICE. You can't provide happiness for your child and when you try to do that, it makes it hard for the child to deal with disappointment.

The motto in our house: Suck it up, buttercup.
 

Daisy, I think in the previews Sev tells Cris he has/had a lover (which kind of nixes Aldonza's fuel). Also, yes, it'll be interesting to see if Pru goes all the way with Tomas or just flirts with danger.

Having seen some kids that just make you go "what is wrong with you?" sometimes it's the parents, but sometimes kids just don't learn. I know a kid who's benn h*ll on wheels since puberty, and his siblings are no trouble at all. Maybe it's parenting wisdom (he was an only child for several years before his younger sibs came along).

Seems like most of the decent kids were raised away from their parents anyway. Aldie's a toss up because it was Roberta and Adelina. Renato's the only one so far who appears to have been raised by his folks and made it out decently.

I too wondered if Sev and Cande made another bundle of...angst with their reconciliation. She's still pretty young. We must remember that she stays with Sev because for her that preferable to the humiliation of being publicly found wanting. If his affairs were public, she'd feel like she was what Sev said: not enough. Not giving him something he needed. And if she gets divorced, then her marriage "failed," making her "a failure." Neither is acceptable in CandeLand.

Maybe Sev's grandfather made the magical candy house way back when?
 

Right, Cris and Aldonza have never had a sit down conversation, never. She ran from the guy even before the rape.

Her whole demeanor changes when Renato is around, that's her bf, they'll kiss soon and make it official.

Not sure if that is the intent but it's how it comes across to me. Cris is an ok guy, I guess, but I feel like we know Renato better so 30 minutes of passionate kissing by the falls and 30 seconds at the engagement party pretty lame in the attempt to convince me.
 

Hellashelle..In my experience , sometimes good kids who have great parents fall in with a bad crowd. In adolescence, your peer group has much more influence over you than your family. Tomas and Lardo both probably fell in the same barrel of bad apples. Val was a bad apple, and Mari became her devoted follower.
 

Sorry guys, all I see when Al is with Renato is a guy in the friend zone. I have some great guy friends who make me laugh, and know me really well, but we are NEVER going there. Other than her little show of jealousy at the funeral, Al has never shown that kind of interest. And friends get jealous of others encroaching on their friends. It's not romantic.

I was glad to see that Renato is human, has human desires, and human failings. It makes him seem more real and less pathetic in my eyes. But Silvia needs to stop acting like he took advantage of her. It was the other way around, and he acknowledged his part in letting things get too far. Let's hope no baby was made on that desk, though. We had that happen in CME with the galan.
 

Whether it's as a romantic couple or as friends, I agree that Aldonza and Renato do have an actual relationship. She definitely does not have that with Cris, and they didn't really have that before, either. They were barely getting started.

HellaShelle..."bundle of angst" I hope not! Poor kid would be so messed up!
 

Agreed. They have built a nice friendship. And poor Cris has been shut down at every turn. But the heart wants what it wants.
 

I don't know if Renato is in the friendzone but more a, maybe just gimme time to work through a few things and could date, kind of guy. When at university I hiked the Appalachian trail for almost a month one summer with a guy that was my male friend but he had never declared love for me and really more like my older brother and nothing was there and he saw me naked.
 

Yah, I accept that they are profoundly in love in a way that defies logic because we're supposed to believe that. It would have been nice if they could've had a real relationship first; we all noted this in the beginning, but I get this is supposed to be the crazy, illogical, sweep you off your feet kind of love all the songs and stuff are about. We get that. What I don't like is that there are plenty songs about being from the wrong side of the tracks or some such but none about "yo' daddy raped me but I luvs you anyway." That's the frickin' stretch I'll have to struggle with until fin! *sigh*
 

It's beanie-defying. I'm trying to have faith, given how many people were involved in creating this plot, that they only took it to this dark place because they had a brilliant plan for how they were going to bring it back.
 

You're right, Diva, and this show deserves more than to be constantly compared to L maldita G but after that mess I guess I can be fairly forgiving and I even just have my beanie sitting next to my recliner. I haven't put it on yet.
 

It's hard to be optimistic after so many that started out strong and fizzled, and then LG was like some kind of horrible practical joke. I'm glad that at least so far, I'm still excited about watching every episode.
 

I was idly thinking how cool it would be if Chris was a result of Cande's fling with Padre J before he went away to seminary. What a great Dad he would be! But wait, that doesn't work, because then Chris would be first cousin (?) to Aldonza...o no?

J in O
 

I'm wondering if Candela had a thing for Raymundo, not PJ, and that's why she hated Roberta so much more. I know Rob had an affair with Sev, her husband, but how maddening would it be that the same woman who stole your first love, also stole your husband?
 

I've thought that from the beginning.
 

They keep going back and forth with the hints...one day it looks like Ray, one day it looks like the Padre...she had one kind of sigh for Ray when she looked at that picture and another kind of sigh for Jeronimo. And lately Sev is making pointed comments about Padre J and I can't tell if it's because he knows something we don't know or if his just being his usual smarmy self.
 

I feel a little sorry for candy but not a whole lot. this is what happens when you plot to destroy someone else. she's married to the dog that's partly responsible for this whole mess. she knows sev is a piece of crap, so why is she so upset. The man is a cheater. this is what cheaters do they cheat. what makes her think he's going to treat her any better than he treated those women he cheated with on her. they've been married for years, when is she going to learn? I guess the same can be asked about those other women too.
 

I keep forgetting to put my name on my reply that's my reply above.

Nina!
 

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