Friday, May 08, 2015

Weekend Discussion: Do Humans Need Love?


Poets, dramatists, composers, and artists have all made careers of glorifying Love. We glue ourselves to our screens night after night watching novela characters trying to make sense of this emotion that other characters either know less about than they do or.... intentionally attempt to deceive them about. However while writers, composers, singers, and actors do their best to promote Love – in all its forms – as the grandest thing in life nobody ever seriously addresses the big fundamental question: Do humans need love to live and be happy?


Those of us who are watching and commenting on La Sombra del Pasado are all feeling pain for Emmanuel, who grew up unloved through no fault of his own. I am having difficulty believing that Lola is the first girl to ever notice his handsome face or his goodness, but growing up with such poor examples of the female sex as Prudencia and Valeria in the household I wonder why he isn't a total misogynist like so many of the men in Santa Lucia. Humberto doesn't seem to be, but in the context of this series, how much time has he ever spent parenting?

Would Emanuel even know what love is after growing up in that house? Would Cristobal even know considering that his parents don't even love each other?

My prescription for Emanuel would be to leave Santa Lucia and start over somewhere else, as far away from these toxic people as he can get. As for whether he will ever find love, many people don't even when they try. As is said multiple times per series “El corazón no se manda”, so nobody has any control over whether anyone ever loves him.

The issue is: Do humans really need love?


I anticipate a lively debate.

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Comments:
I definitely think humans need love.
 

Very interesting question, Urban.

I, like Sara, do believe humans need love. Everything needs love, or at least a love equivalent. That feeling of warmth and comfort like rocking in your mom's arms or softly caressing a flower's petals.

However, I do believe that too much love can cause irreversible damage as well. Cesar (from Quiero Amarte) is the perfect example of unconditional love gone because there are no boundaries.

As far as Humberto, he's Hector's equivalent in El Manantial I believe, Lola is the first one to see him for who he is, as a person physically and emotionally. Hector could have been a bitter young man but he grew up never let the lovelessness in his life definite him. He chose to be better than the examples around him.

Hopefully, he finds the love he needs with Lola.
 

I think humans need some sort of love in order to thrive, but it doesn't necessarily need to be romantic love. Other familial connections or close friendships fill the role of making people feel like they matter to someone and aren't isolated.
 

Julia- ITA.
 

Julia and Vivi - I third that notion.

It has been studied that children who grow up without touch can have physical, mental and emotional developmental problems. I believe the same can hold true for demonstrations of love. But I think Julia's right - there are many different forms of love. There are also many different interpretations of "need." When we say need, what do we mean? Need for success? What kind? For happiness? To be a produtive member of soceity?
 

Well, I think everyone needs love to live happily and not just survive, but love can take many forms...not just the love from a lover or spouse, but also the love from relatives, friends, and pets.

One of my favorite quotes is '' Being loved by someone makes you strong ; loving someone makes you brave.'' I sent that to my older daughter a few years ago when she was going through a difficult time, and she still has that battered index card on her refrigerator.
 

Julia..I always love looking at Calvin and Hobbs !!


 

Definitely, everyone needs love. However, I am past the age of wanting an amante. I much prefer the love of my cat.
 

I feel Julia said it best in her brief comment. Not having romantic love is not an end-all. Knowing God loves you is the most secure love you can always trust in, in my mind and my feeling in my heart, that Is the only love I couldn't live with. My opinion.
 

I'm with you, Variopinta. I need time with my cats every day. Oh and Hubs, too.
 

I wouldn't ever want to live without my cats. They are love.
 

Sometimes the people we love(d) most are no longer in our lives, for whatever reason. When you have a cat or a dog, there's a living creature who is happy to see you at the end of the day. That means alot.

J in Oregon
(lovin' those kitties!)
 

Yes they need it but sometimes "love" can go too far namely Esteban from La Malquerida & Hernan and Fully from La Tempestad although that would be considered obsession instead of the pure, normal love.
 

Love is a many splendored thing.

It can come from anywhere, anyone and anything. We all deserve love as long as it's natural and in a healthy amount.



 

Superalfie- I think you mean Emanuel is Hector's equivalent haha.

 

at first I had no doubt that the answer was definitely YES humans need love.
However after reading the comments, such good arguments for and against were made that left me pondering this question.


 

OT

For those of you who are watching LSDP, would you rate it favorable over El Manantial with gorgeous Mauricio Islas and Adele Noriega.

Is it worth watching ?
 

OT
Victoria- I think most of us watching La Sombra have not seen El Manantial. Not sure how it rates in comparison, but it is good.

Back to topic
I think love might not be the right terminology. I think all creature need a sense of place and belonging. Sometimes that is found in romantic love and sometimes it's found elsewhere.

That being said, it is also somewhat a choice of the individual. I am not going to express this well. I have my sense of belonging in a few areas. There are other areas where I don't. Part of that is because of others and how they deal with me, and part of that is my refusal to do what is necessary to "belong."

So that kind of works in social or online groups, but it can be more devastating in families. That's not really one of those "optional" groups... At least most folks don't see it that way.

OK. I'm not making any kind of sense.
 

Sara, I think you're making sense and that you'/re right: love can be considered finding that sense of acceptance that makes you happy. We're social creatures and can lose our minds when deprived of human contact/interaction for extended periods of time.

I don't think we need to have romantic love to be happy, but I think it certainly helps :)

OT: Victoria - I know I watched El Manantial, at least in some portion, when it aired, but I have almost no recollection of it. I had to go back and compare the beginning of El Man and LSDP when LSDP started, and from what I saw of the first few episodes, it looked to be a close remake. That being said, I haven't gone back since the first maybe 7 episodes because I don't want to reuin LSDP for myslef by knowing what's going to happen.
 

There are many people in this world who are incapable of loving. I'm sure that most of them grew up without knowing healthy love from their parents and that is far more commonplace than anyone wants to know about.

For this reason I want to see Emmanuel rise above this and not only survive but thrive. Whenever I hear someone being described as having "a face only a mother could love" I want to brain the speaker. There are certainly mothers in this world who love their children no matter what, but there are others whose love is either insanely selfish or non-existent.

Declaring now on Mother's Day that it is almost time for a new Toxic Mothers list.
 

UA, exactly, not only do we need love, whatever the source, it is very important TO LOVE, whatever the source.
Those that have been denied love, usually by parents, are the ones that don't make it in society. Very sad

 

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