Saturday, November 28, 2015
Pasión y Poder Episode #18 Friday, November 27th 2015 Who needs matching bath robes when you can have personalized toilet paper
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"Julia tells Artie that it would best if he skedaddles out of there"
So let me get this straight, an absent father and husband, who cheated on his fiancee and snap married to cover a pregnancy and snap marries again when he is a recent widower tells the mother of three of his 4 children he shouldn't have married her and her crime is still being able to slip into a skin tight dress, wear dark opaque lipstick and doesn't have eyes in the back of her head.
And this same failure of a father works everyday with a son that drinks and whores under his nose, deems invisible the son of an affair until he needs him to perform illegal hacking, was prepared to marry his favorite child off to a spoiled punk and offers 30 seconds of quality time to his youngest that is clearly in crisis.
Ok, Regina finally called the wedding planner herself to cancel, why didn't she do it herself before? She's spoiled rotten too.
I like SG but this Julia chick I don't and not buying what SG is selling.
I had to laugh at the idea of MonserratT thinking herself a queen. Even a queen of whores is smarter than she is. She certainly doesn't realize that Rome wasn't built in a day and even if Erick manages to get $5 million US out of this crooked deal she's likely to run through that money faster than even Nina does. We can only be grateful that she isn't interested in getting pregnant.
When we criticize Arturo's lack of involvement in the day to day of his household we may be holding him to a standard his culture doesn't expect of him. There is also that this is a remake from a series in 1988. Fernando Colunga is following in the footsteps of Enrique Rocha in his character. I consider ER to be the king of novela villains.
Probably most novelas have a premise that we have to accept in order for the story to work. In this case an outdated parenting model which allows two of the leading man's four children to be spoiled, selfish, and nasty is combined with a narcissistic mother who favors the two less brainy of the four (the male because he's her DNA). I will have more to say about that as my alter-ego.
More later.
I agree with you about Artie. He should have been there with his kids all along, and having to work is no excuse, since he is his own boss and he could come and go in and out of the office when he pleases. Nina made some good points when she called him out on being an absent father to his children.
It didn't occur to me, until then, that Regina could have called up the wedding planner and cancelled the wedding herself. She didn't need mommy to go and do it for her.
"I had to laugh at the idea of MonserratT thinking herself a queen."
Me too. She's no queen AT ALL. It sure says a lot about her- that she sees herself as someone who deserves to live in luxury.
Now Erick is even wiling to betray to his own father, to give her that life that she wants. I hope Artie finds out and disowns him.
Josh looks more like an idiot each episode, and this time even had Regina calling him one to his face. Ha!
Since Nina was the one planning this wedding from top to bottom, even trying to decide Gina's dress, that's why it was her job to tell all the vendors and planners SHE had been working with that it was off. It also allowed her to save face by making up whatever excuse she felt comfortable with. I'm sure if she had refused to do it, Gina would have done it herself, but she said she would.
Even if Erick manages to make big bucks from some shady deals, he isn't smart enough to actually build a business that will keep making money. He and Montse would burn through their fast cash quickly. Erick is not a good long term bet as a sugar daddy, unless his father dies and he gets a large inheritance and part of the business (which someone else would need to run for him).
Which would have been a lot better for all of them.
I put the whole bad parenting on Artie's part again to the story that needs to be told. If we get the gist that all these "grown-ups" were quite young when all the mistakes were made, then there marriages and reactions were from lack of maturity and probably their own lack of parental guidance. To make Artie our galan, we need him to recognize his screw-ups and proceed accordingly. But I have to say, his going on and on to poor Augustin was a bit much last night.
Unfortunately, he marries someone self-centered and hardly of the mothering kind and thus the screwed up kids. Good lord Erick is just plain dumb. And Daniela has nothing better to do than look at herself and cause trouble. Artie should cut her cards and make her go get a job. Same with Erick...seriously. Living in the house is one thing, paying for everything is another. Big boy wear big pants.
Does this mean we're actually going to lose that dweeb Joshua from our screen with the forced trip? Please. Oh please.
Daisynjay
Brief OT: What episode of YNCELH aired last night? I don't want to recap the wrong one.
I agree with the earlier comment that Joshua looks dumber and dumber every time we see him. I hope Regina never boinked him.
With all his spies I'm shocked that Eladio doesn't have cameras all over the house like Helloisa in MIVAC.
Back to our regular discussion.
We haven't said much about Aldo yet so I will offer a theory. He's a trust fund brat because he's on the Penthouse level of the building (which to judge by the exterior isn't tall enough to have one) and he lives vicariously through what he sees going on.
Oh, and although she's too dumb to use it, I congratulate the set designers for finally putting peepholes in doors!
How long before Daniela figures out the woman her dad was in love with is David's mother? I actually felt sorry for Nina when Arturo told her, with Daniela standing right there, that he doesn't understand how he could've married her. Arturo, not in front of the kids.
Looks like Consuelo missed a period. Bad timing if she catches Erick cheating soon.
Julia is wrong to involve someone else's husband in her DNA quest. I wouldn't blame Nina for going ballistic if Arturo does a test. It's dumb because either way (and we know David is Eladio's) involving Art will make it look like David could've been his and that Julia cheated during her engagement to Eladio.
Funny moment: David diving and staying under the restaurant table. Daniela was a good sport to keep silent as long as she did.
Another irony in this episode: Eladio's "gifts" of booze and cigars could accelerate Humberto's death, which could free Julia since David is now grown and can be earning decent dinero soon. If she has run a foundation for a number of years there is no good reason for her not to be able to find work, either.
As for Nina, I believe Art got what he paid for but she likely kept everything between the lines as the children grew up without their father but they are adults now and get out of the fence from time to time.
I don't have children because I know I would have made a rotten mother. It is almost impossible to have a couple where you have one rotten parent and one good because that isn't sustainable if they both spend what most of us think is adequate time with the children. Daniela has mastered the art of playing the parents off and against each other, which proves she has more brains than Erick. That he doesn't do this is probably because being male meant he never needed to: he curries favor by (appearing to) work at Dad's company as Arturo did at the same age.
Urban, Eladio's gift cigars were a hoot. The old guy is on oxygen, for Pete's sake. I was waiting for the room to explode and take the two misogynists with it.
Mauricio,
Erick is starting his career as industrial saboteur just as Miguel is getting ready to hack into his computer and phone so ALL of Erick's dirty tricks should come to light pretty quickly.
I enjoyed reading all the comments about the poor parenting that has gone on here. The moral of the story is that when the three-year-old says to you " Clean up my mess (tiny beads that she was playing with), the correct answer is " Clean up your own messy, sweetheart." It is a good idea to teach kids that lesson at a verra early age.
I think I need to see more salt and peppa Augie. Whataman. What's his back story ? Is he meant to vie for Gabby's hand and take on the pipsqueak Frankie? I see no true galan in this story so far.
When David and Regina were in the restaurant and Gabi and Franco came in and David hid, Regina questioned him if Gabi was the girl at the hospital and he didn't answer. I thought she wondered Gabi was just another of David's women. Doesn't she know Gabi is his cousin?
Yes Vivi Regina calling Josh an idiot to his face was great! He's so ridiculous trying to blame her for his parents actions. And I hope Daisynjay is right and he won't see Josh again hopefully for the rest of the tn.
UA's observation about this tn being a remake may explain the parent role expectations, though I also think that traditional set up is more common than we think.
NM great idea of the room blowing up on Humberto and Eladio. Too bad it can't happen yet, at least Eladio can't die this early.
tofie, I don't think Regina knows Gaby is David's cousin.
This could ultimately happen to Humberto.
Your maybe there is someone else(and with less lipstick) had me laughing.
Who else thinks the password is the Ratt? LOL--You're probably right on that one.
NovelaMaven---Using an oxygen tank and lighting a cigar. Thanks, I didn't think of that. I guess that the writers didn't either.
A truly sad story Urban---the whole apt. building!
I'm glad that at least Julia now suspects that Franco is spying for Eladio.1
Urban---I agree that no matter how much money Erik makes for selling his dad down the river, both he and Montse will blow it all in no time.
Can't wait to see what Miguel finds on Erik's computer.
must see tv
the gringo
I think Julia is going to get into a whole mess of problems asking Arturo to cooperate with the DNA test. Eladio is bound to find out. Is she just too dumb, or not up on the basics of DNA testing, that you need hair (with or without roots, as per tn law), a cheek swab (or maybe lips on a glass) to get Eladio's DNA? She really needs a witness to back up the provenance and then go to a certified lab. Of course, the witness can't be Gaby anymore. She will tell Franco, Franco will tell Eladio and is shut-in time again for Julia.
That oxygen tank explosion needs to happen ASAP. Or, did I see Julia's face show a little bit of disdain for daddy dear when Eladio was holding it over her head?
Nina is not 100% to blame for how the kids have turned out; Arturo is 50% responsible as well.
Arturo wanted a sex buddy & nanny for Miguel and that's what he got. That's all he required of her. Twerk it good in bed & keep the kids out of my face. Don't be mad 25 years later because Nina is a silly, vapid socialite and you want to relive your teen years with Julia.
And silly Julia gets little sympathy from me because she married Eladio out of spite & was willing to give him a chance until she decided she wanted to fantasize about Arturo instead. David's grown & her dad will croak soon. No need for her to stay with Eladio.
We all ask why Eladio just didn't get a DNA test done on David but we could also ask the same of Julia ...I'm sorry but if my husband is claiming I stepped out on him and cuckolded him with another man's baby and I know I haven't been stepping out on him, I'd have a DNA test done to shut my husband up. Things could've been so much different for Julia, Eladio & David had Julia gotten a DNA test done on David when he was a child.
There was another Amanda mentioned, Gaby's mother (and therefore Julia's sister). That was when Agustín asked Gaby if she was the daughter of Amanda Vallado.
Anon207, the only way Julia could have the DNA test done is under police conditions, as I've said in previous discussions. Eladio is completely unwilling and no matter how she would collect the DNA specimen, he would never accept the results. He wants something to hold over her head and control her with. With a result that would pass inspection by Law & Order SVU he would be left without a leg to stand on. That's what he's really afraid of.
I watch the forensic shows. I'm obsessed with them. I would love to be on a jury that has to consider DNA evidence. You don't need the root to do a DNA test. You can do a mitochondrial DNA test without the root. This would prove that both males are somehow related to the same woman (Eladio's mother).
Back to work.
Well, we are about to enter a brand new week of PyP, and I'm excited to see what will happen this week.
- Will Erick be busted? (both by Consuelo and Artie)
- Will David and Regina stop acting like children and fix their problems?
- Will Nina get rid of that awful lipstick?
- Will Agustin quit his job? (because he's sick and tired of having to listen to Artie going on and on about Julia when he's a married man)
- What will Daniela do with the photos she has of herself and David?
- Will Consuelo find out she's pregnant?
Can't wait to find out.
That makes sense that Regina didn't cancel the wedding herself because Nina said she'd do it. I'm glad that she called the wedding planner and cancelled it herself once she realized that her mom didn't do it and wasn't going to do it anytime soon.
Yes, The Ratt especially would spend it all pretty fast. And yes, Erick would not be able to handle a business all by himself.
Thank you Daisynjay.
"But I have to say, his going on and on to poor Augustin was a bit much last night."
Yes, it was too much. I can only imagine how annoyed Agustin must have been.
"Does this mean we're actually going to lose that dweeb Joshua from our screen with the forced trip? Please. Oh please."
I hope we do- anything to get him off our screens.
Here are my answers to your "quiz"==
1. No, not yet
2. No, not yet
3. No, not ever
4. No, unless you know something we don't know
5. The only people she can hurt with those pictures are Regina, Arturo, and Eladio, so my bet is on the Gossip Weeklies first, then Regina.
6. If Consuelo is pregnant (please say it ain't so), then our resident idiot is not shooting blanks. MontserRAT had better be careful or there will be more ratitas running around for Erik to support.
Cynderella--thanks for the correction on DNA--I was being semi-facetious calling it a tn law. So, then, how is it you can detetmine who the father is? I thought that was one of the easier tests, as opposed to who is a father where two brothers are suspected (Reina de Corazones, for instance). They gave of some explanation in the tn that it couldn't be determined precisely when two brothers were involved.
Thank you Niece.
"Arturo, not in front of the kids."
I agree. You should never have an argument like that in front of yours. It's one of those arguments that should take place behind closed doors.
Thank you NovelaMaven.
"I was waiting for the room to explode and take the two misogynists with it."
Hahaha, now that would have been good, wouldn't it?
"Erick is starting his career as industrial saboteur just as Miguel is getting ready to hack into his computer and phone so ALL of Erick's dirty tricks should come to light pretty quickly."
I hope that is what happens. I want Erick to get busted.
"It is a good idea to teach kids that lesson at a verra early age."
I agree. It's too late for Erick and Daniela now.
"Is he meant to vie for Gabby's hand and take on the pipsqueak Frankie?"
I hope so. Franky doesn't deserve a nice girl like Gabriela.
Thank you Karen.
Without Humberto around, a part of Julia's problems would be solved.
Thank you gringo.
"Can't wait to see what Miguel finds on Erik's computer."
Me too. I hope it'll be good and that Erick will be busted.
Thank you Anita.
Yes, all Julia needs is some hair from Eladio and David to get that DNA test done. Not sure why she hasn't thought of this. Going to Artie is NOT a smart move AT ALL.
Thank you Anon207
"Erik is worthless for betraying the man who took care of him all his life."
Well said. My thoughts exactly.
And yes, both Artie and Nina are to blame for how their kids turned out.
I agree. Julia should have gotten that test done herself.
Julia is showing she's growing a bit of a spine now, but it's not strong enough to leave him. She had thought of going to live with David in Queretaro to get away from Eladio for awhile, but decided not to, even before she ever asked for a divorce.
Aren't they in Mexico City? If Julia wants a divorce and Eladio won't give her one, she can get a Divorce Express. It's been done in othe novelas.
I am an armchair geneticist. I have only been educated by the ID channel, forensic files, etc, the Will: Family Secrets Revealed, Deadline NBC, 20/20.... On those docu-shows, when or if they find a dead body and the parents are dead. They go to the next closest relative which is usually a brother or a sister....they compare the mitochondrial DNA and that is passed only from the mother to her children. So, if two siblings...have the same mitochondrial DNA, they can prove that they shared the same female relative. According to my television shows, each mother passes her unique mtDNA. Meaning, my daughter passes her own. My mtDNA will not be in my grand-daughter. Signed Cynderella, PHDTV
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