Wednesday, November 11, 2015
Yo No Creo en los Hombres #87, Wed 11/11/15: Lo Que No Fue en el Año de Orly, Pero Sí, Fue en el Año de Alma
Maleny runs into Ursula’s bedroom, ready to burst with the
Ivana-Gerry gossip. “There’s someone else offering a baby to Ivana…Gerry!” Not
only that, but he came out of her bathroom practically naked! Ursula laughs it
off. Even if they slept in the same bed, it would be as girlfriends. Maleny isn’t
so sure. From what she saw, Gerry is all MAN—she’d do him. Ursula says that Mal
would sleep with anybody, including Isidro, and points out that this doesn’t
change the fact that Ivana is sterile. Mal points out that Gerry’s sperm is
perfectly functional. There are thousands of ways these days of making a baby.
As Gerry dresses (awwww!), Ivana explains to him what Maleny
was looking for—the ballistics report from the investigation into her father’s
death. Ivana tells Gerry how she pressured Medina into giving her the report,
using the threat of turning him in for what he did to her in Cuernavaca, and
the carrot of protecting him from Ursula. The report showed that the death of
Hector was NOT suicide, but also that Ursula wasn’t the culprit. Ivana is sure,
however, that Ursula was the mastermind (la mente maestra). She’s sure this
pack of hyenas will do whatever it takes to take MD’s baby, and she won’t
permit it! Ivana also found out that the supposed cause of Hector’s “suicide”
was financial ruin, but knowing how Ursula lies about her family’s finances,
Ivana isn’t convinced this was true. And this time, there was a death involved.
MD tells Clara the truth about Isela’s murky origins, but
feeds her the lie Isela has concocted about why she’s returned to Josefa’s lair—Jo
could have turned her away, abandoned her, or sent her to an orphanage. Clara
doesn’t get it, and thinks that even mistreatment in an orphanage would have
been better than growing up with Josefa! Esperanza tries to be diplomatic, and
says not all orphanages are hell holes. Clara agrees, after having spoken to
Leo about his volunteer work in orphanages, but still feels nothing beats a
loving home (el calor de hogar).
Clara leaves the room to take a call from Leo, which gives
Espy the chance to ask MD why the heck Isela is returning to Jo. MD doesn’t
really get it either, but Isela doesn’t want Jo to know that she (Isela) knows that
she (Jo) is not her mama. (Clear as mud, right?) In any case, they’ve got to
make sure Honoria and company know they have to pretend that no one spilled the
beans. Does this mean Isela will also return to casa Bustamante? MD thinks so.
Espy tells MD she has to tell Max. MD is unsure of doing this, because surely
Max won’t be able to keep his mouth shut. Espy doesn’t think they can just
trust Isela blindly either—she’s been twisted by all of Josefa’s lies and abuse.
MD knows, and plans to keep an eye on her.
Josefa has apparently just dragged Isela from the bus
station—the location of her staged escape with Orlando. She demands to know why
Isela was leaving. “Because I’m fed up,
Mama! I’m tired of how you treat me. It
doesn’t even seem like I’m your daughter.” Jo calls her a liar and says
she’s just a coward and doesn’t want to hurt Alma. Isela agrees, but points out
how she came to spend the holidays with Jo, and she just ruined it as usual.
Isela says she’s fed up with Jo. First, with the stupid vengeance, and then
with taking it out on Alma and her sons, when none of them had anything to do
with Marta and her bad decision. Jo thinks Alma has turned Isela against her,
and it makes her stomach turn to hear Isela calling her a second mother.
J: You have a mother, and that mother is ME!
I: That’s not true!
Orlando fulfills the promise he made to Ari and brings the
check to pay him back directly to his apartment. Ari makes snide comments about
Orly not being off somewhere with Isela. Orly knows that would have been
exactly what Ari wanted, to leave the way free to Doris. But his plan didn’t
work. He didn’t come to fight, because Ari isn’t worth it. He hands Ari the
check, and says now he can get his car back. However, he can never repay him
for what he did for him. Ari smugly tells him that he doesn’t need to
pay him back, because Doris paid him back richly that day (in bed). “You don’t
know how grateful she was for the
favor I did you that day.” Orly keeps
his cool. He doesn’t doubt that Doris asked Ari to help him, because at that
point she was already in love with HIM (Orly). Touché! “Lo que no fue en mi año, no fue
mi daño.” (What wasn’t in my time, isn’t my concern/doesn’t hurt me.) “Perhaps before me there were many or very few,
but what’s important is that she’s with ME now.” Orly leaves with his honor
firmly in place, and Ari’s pride severely dented.
Isela continues to accuse Josefa of never treating her as a
real mother would. She warns Jo never to lay a hand on her again, otherwise she
will tell Alma everything about Jo’s abuse and the revenge plan. “Do NOT challenge me/No me reta!”
(retar= to challenge, to dare, call someone’s bluff)
Max is downstairs visiting with MD. On behalf of his mother,
he asks Espy to accompany Alma and MD wedding dress shopping the next day.
Clara and Doris are also invited along. Espy leaves them alone to talk couples
stuff, including honeymoon plans. Max smooches MD and says he hopes their
honeymoon is eternal.
Orlando returns to his workshop/garage to find it unlocked
and completely cleaned out—not a single tool left, nada. He cries out in
frustration and anger.
MD and Max talk about Alma. He tells her how attentive his
father has been and how happy it’s made Alma. Claudio told Max he wants to make
up for lost time with Alma. Max has been looking up alternative treatments for
the cancer, and everything he’s found says the attitude/emotional state of the
person is the MOST important. (If MD was hesitant to tell him about the
Isela-Claudio affair before, there is no way she’s giving up the info now.)
Outside, Leo and Clara eat ice cream and he also mentions
his father’s unusual attentive behavior towards Alma-- as if he’s trying to amend
some kind of guilt. Clara gets pensive, but then jokes with Leo that now she’ll
know if he has a guilty conscious if he all of a sudden starts acting overly
attentive (cursi= corny, sickly sweet). They laugh, smooch and hug. Leo doesn’t
catch the worried look on Clara’s face.
Ivana walks Gerry out and thanks him for not letting this
turn into the second worst Christmas of her life (the first being the Christmas
her parents died). “How could I leave my
girl (mi niña) alone?” Ivana points out that it’s been a long time since he
called her that. “For others, you might
be the great executive, a tough woman, the firm hand (la mano firma), but you’ll
always be my girl.” They tell each other how much they love (querer) each
other. Gerry gives her back the keys to his apartment. “The doors to my heart
are always open to you.” Susana looks on bitterly as they hug and giggle their
way to the door.
MD gives Max a sanitized version of the Isela saga. Josefa
treated her like crap on Christmas Eve, Isela got tired of the abuse, and
decided to leave for good. Max points out that Alma offered their home, and
Isela said she was coming back. MD says Isela wasn’t thinking clearly. She ran
into Orly when she was leaving, and he offered to help, which is why he took
her to Doris’ place. Max says Doris is very noble. MD continues that the idea
was that Isela would stay with Doris until she found a place of her own, but
Orly was never going to run away with her. Max wonders if that’s the important
thing MD was discussing with Isela, but MD skirts around the answer. She
explains how Chelito did the same thing for Isela as she did for MD—convinced her
to confront her problems and not run away. “Max,
I think that if Isela wants to leave Josefa’s home, it’s a good thing. It would
be the best thing. But that doesn’t mean I think she should return to your
house. I’m saying that she should become independent.”
Susana decides to spread some holiday bitterness to Ivana.
She tells her that Gerry is as much of a user as the Santibañez, and that she
(Susana) is the one who would support her in anything—ANYTHING. Ivana decides
to call her on this promise. She explains that Gerry is donating the sperm, now
she just needs eggs with her genetics and a womb. Susana (her eggs and womb) is
the perfect candidate! Susana is rendered speechless. Ivana warns her that if
she wants to stay on the Ivana luxury goodies train, she better get on board
with the surrogate mama plan.
MD tells Espy why she didn’t tell Max the whole truth. Alma
needs to remain positive, and Claudio is behaving. Espy points out that Max
will find out sooner or later.
The Bustamante Boys return home and find Alma and Claudio
cuddled on the couch. Alma asks if they saw Isela. She’s worried about her and
wants her to come dress shopping tomorrow. Leo doesn’t think she’ll be in the
mood. “Clara just told me that Isela
found out Josefa isn’t really her mother.” Caras impactadas de Alma y
Claudio.
Orlando calls Doris to tell her about his workshop getting
robbed. He’s headed to the police station to make a report, and she wants to go
stand guard at his shop. He begs her not to—the thieves might come back. He
wants her to stay with her nana and he’ll tell her how everything went in the
morning.
Espy is confused about how Doris is coming dress shopping
with them tomorrow when she was supposed to accompany Chelito back to her
pueblo the next day. MD breaks into a big smile and explains something mysterious
about the tickets Orlando bought to Espy and Clara. We don’t get to hear what it
is.
Meanwhile, the Bustamantes try to understand this latest
news about Isela. Max is particularly confused since MD told him nothing about this.
(Get used to it, Max.) Alma starts to panic and freak out. Leo explains that
this makes it all the more strange that Isela returned to Jo’s home. Max calls MD
to get confirmation. She tells him it’s true. Yes, this was the important thing
she needed to speak to Isela about. She didn’t tell him because she didn’t want
Alma to worry (too late). MD asks how she can help.
That help takes the form of going up to Jo’s apartment to
speak to Isela on behalf of the Bustamantes. Jo tells MD off, saying Isela
doesn’t want to talk to a snitch (soplona) like her. Isela comes out and
pretends to be mad at “Lola” for ratting her and Orly out to Josefa and ruining
their escape plans. MD plays along and tells her that Alma wants to talk to
her. They pretend to tell each other off before MD leaves.
Max tells Claudio that MD didn’t want to worry Alma, but has
just passed on the message to Isela to get in touch with Alma. Meanwhile, MD
tells Espy that she could tell Max was mad at her, but didn’t want to fight
about it in front of his parents. Espy totally gets how he feels. MD tries to
justify herself. Espy reminds her that the truth will always out. If she tells
Max the truth, then she’ll have to tell him the whole truth, which will prompt
Josefa to tell Alma the truth. It’s a no win situation. Espy tells her
sometimes you just have to leave things in God’s hands.
Isela calls Alma. Alma wants to go pick her up NOW. Isela
promises to visit her to chat tomorrow morning.
The next morning, Espy scolds Clara for not minding her
business and for telling Leo about Isela’s mama-drama. Isela requested that
they tell nobody (so that it wouldn’t get back to Jo), and now Leo’s parents
know (and aren’t likely to keep mum about it). Clara apologizes, but it’s also
killing her keeping quiet about Alma’s cancer to Leo (thank goodness she doesn’t
know about the affair!). MD tries to convince her that they are keeping quiet
about all of this for the good of Alma. Clara doesn’t seem convinced.
Claudio tries to stay behind from work to chat with Isela
along with Alma. They all find his insistence strange and say that Alma and Max
will speak to Isela.
Orlando chats with the two homeboys and asks them if they
know anything about the robbery. One of them has just bought a tool with
Orlando’s name on it from one of the local hoods who specializes in stolen
goods. Orly finally gets the info out of the short one that he found out
someone specifically targeted Orly’s shop, opened it up, and led the crooks
there.
Gerry and Ivana sit in her office, drinking wine, and having
a good laugh about how Ivana punked Susana into believing she wants her to be
her surrogate. LOL! Ivana would never want that bitter woman to gestate her
child. They are interrupted by one of the lawyers. He tells Ivana that Ursula’s
strategy is to prove that MD tried to get even with Dan after the false wedding
by accusing him of rape. Ursula will try to demonstrate that MD isn’t a fit
mother, and this is how the Santibañez will get the baby.
Doris stands in front of the workshop with Nana Chelito and
calls Orly. He tells her he just found out who was behind the robbery, and he’s
going to take care of it. He’ll call her later. Doris assumes Ari was behind it
and panics that Orly is going to kill him. She rushes to Ari’s place.
Doris pounds on Ari’s door and is happy she got there before
Orly when he lets her in. She demands to know why Ari keeps making life
difficult for Orly. “Do you want him to
explode?” Ari thinks she’s speaking about the conversation he had with Orly
the day before. He tells her that Orly must not really care about her, since he
didn’t even get jealous when he told him about their roll in the hay the day he
got that car loan to pay Orly’s debt. He asks if Doris has already slept with Orly,
and she says it’s none of his business. He tells her that if Orly can’t or
doesn’t want to, then HE has no problem giving her what she wants. He suddenly grabs
her and forcefully kisses her, clearly intending to take her by force! Doris
screams and tries to fight him off.
Meanwhile, Orly is banging on the door of the person who
actually opened his shop and set the thieves on it—Josefa!
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Vivi-What-? How-? That recap was freakin' fantastic and it's up so quickly! Thanks for all of the translation (particularly the one that inspired the title, which I def scratched my head over).
Well, hopefully MD will learn from Clara. I get that she doesn't want the information to hurt Max, Leo and especially Alma, and get I why she didn't tell him. But now that she's admitted she knows Max is annoyed with her for withholding something this small, she must be know how furious he'll be when he finds out that she didn't tell him about the affair! And he's not going to do anything to risk his mother's health, including telling her about it (though no doubt he'll give his dad the closest thing to a beat down that he can, verbally).
I am freaked that Orlando isn't on his way to Ari's to break up this new madness. Jeez Louise, are we dealing with a lot of sexual assault on this show! Enough! Wait, why am I worried? No doubt Chelo's right behind Doris and will whoop Ari's butt! (Please let it be that! I so want to see that!)
Well, hopefully MD will learn from Clara. I get that she doesn't want the information to hurt Max, Leo and especially Alma, and get I why she didn't tell him. But now that she's admitted she knows Max is annoyed with her for withholding something this small, she must be know how furious he'll be when he finds out that she didn't tell him about the affair! And he's not going to do anything to risk his mother's health, including telling her about it (though no doubt he'll give his dad the closest thing to a beat down that he can, verbally).
I am freaked that Orlando isn't on his way to Ari's to break up this new madness. Jeez Louise, are we dealing with a lot of sexual assault on this show! Enough! Wait, why am I worried? No doubt Chelo's right behind Doris and will whoop Ari's butt! (Please let it be that! I so want to see that!)
Gracias, Vivi.
You are right; this is a no-win situation. The one thing that can save this would be if Josefa gets arrested in connexion with the robbery then she is shut up and away for at least the rest of Alma's life.
Love how Ivana stuck it to her nasty aunt.
More tomorrow; I need to catch some zzz's.
You are right; this is a no-win situation. The one thing that can save this would be if Josefa gets arrested in connexion with the robbery then she is shut up and away for at least the rest of Alma's life.
Love how Ivana stuck it to her nasty aunt.
More tomorrow; I need to catch some zzz's.
Hellashelle- Glad you liked the recap and translations. Got a little head start this evening with YouTube.
Yeah, I'm counting on Chelito coming to the rescue, since she was with Doris when she decided to go to Ari's place. Ari just keeps sinking lower each episode.
MD, MD, MD...this is all going to blow up in your face.
Yeah, I'm counting on Chelito coming to the rescue, since she was with Doris when she decided to go to Ari's place. Ari just keeps sinking lower each episode.
MD, MD, MD...this is all going to blow up in your face.
Thanks, Urban. Yep, as soon as Jo gets wind that folks know the truth about the vengeance scheme (or about the affair or bio-mom story), especially Max or Claudio, she will tell Alma about the affair in the worst way possible, just to get even. It's a no win, so MD might as well spill the frijoles to Max and let the chips fall where they may. Or as Espy says, leave it in God's hands.
I think with all the people who do know, MD's going to have to accept was Espy's saying: Max will find out eventually. And it's entirely possible that Alma's going to find out eventually too. I get why she's doing it - she's holding on to the hope that he, Alma and Leo will never find out and Claudio and Isela will never even hint at doing it again and everyone will live happily ever after. But even if that were TN policy, this is not that kind of tN. MD does need to tell Max and trust that he won't tell Alma (why would he? He wants her in the best possible health too). And when she does find out, everyone needs to trust her to do the best she can with the info and to fight against it basically killing her.
Yeah, no one has anything to hold over Josefa's head. No wonder she doesn't want to celebrate or be happy, she's got nothing to lose this way.
Vivi, thanks so very much for the speedy and terrific recap; couldn't wait to read it. And thanks for the translations. You're super!!
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I don't know how anyone can prove she was the one who tried to kill Leo. There doesn't seem to have been any witnesses and since she's not an alcoholic getting her drunk for a confession isn't a likely solution.
Now that she realizes other people know that Isela isn't her biological daughter she will probably no longer trust the priest although he didn't spill those beans.
Now that she realizes other people know that Isela isn't her biological daughter she will probably no longer trust the priest although he didn't spill those beans.
Thank you bunches Vivi you miss nothing yet succinctly retell
Ursula was the mastermind (la mente maestra)
“Lo que no fue en mi año, no fue mi daño.”
No dammit no, not another rape!
I hope Clara tells Leo of Alma's illness but she probably won't now she got an ass chewing for telling the man she loves a bit of information known to the whole block. The ass chewing because her sister got caught in a lie.
Seriously, I cannot remember but has MD ever told Max anything straight up? He's a lawyer MD and at a point the credibility of a witness trumps the truth they may tell.
I know Susana is not warm and fuzzy but she is not Josefa and Ivana was cruel. She knew Susana would consider it seriously. Fine job by the actress.
Ursula was the mastermind (la mente maestra)
“Lo que no fue en mi año, no fue mi daño.”
No dammit no, not another rape!
I hope Clara tells Leo of Alma's illness but she probably won't now she got an ass chewing for telling the man she loves a bit of information known to the whole block. The ass chewing because her sister got caught in a lie.
Seriously, I cannot remember but has MD ever told Max anything straight up? He's a lawyer MD and at a point the credibility of a witness trumps the truth they may tell.
I know Susana is not warm and fuzzy but she is not Josefa and Ivana was cruel. She knew Susana would consider it seriously. Fine job by the actress.
Thanks Ann-NYC and Tofie! Glad you liked the recap.
Urban- I think Josefa will think that Honoria spilled the beans, not the priest, when she learns everyone knows Isela isn't her kid. That's what she actually assumed when she heard Isela had run off, and went straight to Hon's place to curse her out.
Tofie- Yeah, what Ivana did to Susana was kind of mean. But then I remember all the mean things Susana (who is supposed to be a mother/guardian to Ivana) has said to Ivana, and I don't feel bad for her.
I'm going to believe what Hellashelle believes, that Chelito will stop the rape attempt before anything happens.
Urban- I think Josefa will think that Honoria spilled the beans, not the priest, when she learns everyone knows Isela isn't her kid. That's what she actually assumed when she heard Isela had run off, and went straight to Hon's place to curse her out.
Tofie- Yeah, what Ivana did to Susana was kind of mean. But then I remember all the mean things Susana (who is supposed to be a mother/guardian to Ivana) has said to Ivana, and I don't feel bad for her.
I'm going to believe what Hellashelle believes, that Chelito will stop the rape attempt before anything happens.
Susanna verbally abused Ivana and humiliated her in public her entire life. We knew that from the opening episode when she went on about the calories in tiramisu. Since she was acting in loco parentis she qualifies as a toxic parent figure. Slate has an interesting article by Emily Yoffee on what you owe or don't owe them when they're old and infirm. Click on the link about Warren Buffet's mother for some more shocking stuff.
She wasn't physically abusive like Hosefa, but emotional abuse can be far worse. It's scars are invisible but they are more lasting.
She wasn't physically abusive like Hosefa, but emotional abuse can be far worse. It's scars are invisible but they are more lasting.
Urban- Thanks for the link to that great article. It's interesting because many of our characters have toxic parents/guardians, and have reacted differently to them. Doris left as soon as she could. Dan and Maleny became extensions of Ursula and stayed. Ivana turned the tables, and keeps Susana around so that she can punish her and lord her power over her. Isela is totally screwed up and seems repulsed by Josefa, but also just as perverse as Josefa.
Vivi--Terrific recap, as usual--where the usual sparkles with wit, daggers, sentiment and even-handed reporting. Thank you and the rest of the team. I really need the translations of conversations for this tn.
Not much to add other than for one hot second, I really believed Ivana telling Susie Q she would have to donate her eggs and rent out her uterus. Then I was able to join in the laugh she was having with Gerry (though a little shamefaced that I enjoyed it).
You know, if MD keeps it up, I'm really not going to care about the who, what and where or even if Max stays with her or not. She can't fix the whole world. The sooner *she* realizes that, the better for everyone she's trying to fix, save, change, not hurt, etc. etc. Bah Humbug. Folks, it's Christmas in YoNo, act like it!
Not much to add other than for one hot second, I really believed Ivana telling Susie Q she would have to donate her eggs and rent out her uterus. Then I was able to join in the laugh she was having with Gerry (though a little shamefaced that I enjoyed it).
You know, if MD keeps it up, I'm really not going to care about the who, what and where or even if Max stays with her or not. She can't fix the whole world. The sooner *she* realizes that, the better for everyone she's trying to fix, save, change, not hurt, etc. etc. Bah Humbug. Folks, it's Christmas in YoNo, act like it!
Oh, and Urban--Thank you for the article and the link. Warren Buffet graduated from my high school--several years before I did, in Washington, DC. He probably lived in one of the more well-to-do sections of our school district. It just goes to show, toxic parents aren't limited by socio-economic or educational boundaries, nor by the severity of the damage they can wreak.
This is absolutely true; we've seen this in novelas over and over; we're just getting a double dose in this one!
Thanks, Anita. ITA about MD. She needs to focus on her own problems, and let other people deal with their own. That doesn't mean she can't be supportive and a good friend/girlfriend, but she can't fix/cover up the problem of everyone else.
Yeah, Ivana had me believing it too, until they let us in on the joke.
Yeah, Ivana had me believing it too, until they let us in on the joke.
I was scratching my head until she ushered the aunt out of the room, then I knew she was either punking her or giving herself a motive to finally kick her out.
I'm already apathetic to MD and a relationship with Max, well I mean, Max is too good for her. Max helps everybody too, those he knows and those he doesn't but you don't see him lying or withholding information in an effort to manipulate an outcome he desires. If MD did it once I'd be more forgiving but she has a disturbing pattern, not just being evasive, but great big wopper lies that hurt people. She's promised to be forthcoming with Max and she just cannot bring herself to do it, always finding an excuse. She doesn't trust Max to be able to handle the truth so guess the title is applicable.
Fantastic job Vivi, thanks for the translations too. What an interesting phrase, Lo que no fue en mi año, no fue mi daño.
To be honest, what MD does and doesn't tell Max is of no mind to me. That's the least interesting part of this whole story. He may be mad at her for it, but we know they'll end up together no matter what, so I can just move along with the more interesting parts.
I thought that Susanna offered up her surrogacy once before, so when I heard Ivana mention it this time, since it was already offered by Susanna anyway, I just think that Susanna never thought Ivana would take her up on it. But isn't Susanna a little too old to do it anyway?
How did Orlando figure it was Josefa who opened the door to the thieves? I would have guessed Ari too.
To be honest, what MD does and doesn't tell Max is of no mind to me. That's the least interesting part of this whole story. He may be mad at her for it, but we know they'll end up together no matter what, so I can just move along with the more interesting parts.
I thought that Susanna offered up her surrogacy once before, so when I heard Ivana mention it this time, since it was already offered by Susanna anyway, I just think that Susanna never thought Ivana would take her up on it. But isn't Susanna a little too old to do it anyway?
How did Orlando figure it was Josefa who opened the door to the thieves? I would have guessed Ari too.
Thanks, Vivi. I will savor your recap tonight.
Looking forward to catching up with the comments. Hope there's a frying pan in Doris's hand whacking Ari's head tonight. Ah, MD - How much trauma do you have to receive before you open up to Max? You are very annoying right now.
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Looking forward to catching up with the comments. Hope there's a frying pan in Doris's hand whacking Ari's head tonight. Ah, MD - How much trauma do you have to receive before you open up to Max? You are very annoying right now.
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