Friday, February 05, 2016
Pasión y poder, Episode 81, Thursday, February 4, 2016: Call Miguel – He delivers!
Erick has been in a coma for six months. The police have still not identified the person who tried to kill him.
At the Montenegro breakfast table, Nina and Arturo smile indulgently as Daniela shows off her first magazine cover. Then Nina leaves for the hospital, where she has spent every day at Erick's bedside since the crash.
Now alone with her father, Dani tells him something that she has undoubtedly said over and over again in the last six months: that Miguel was the only one who had a motive to kill Erick. Arturo answers with his own litany: that Miguel is no murderer.
Clara is flustered when the now heavily pregnant Consuelo tells her she's having contractions. She asks her friend to call Arturo.
Arturo insists that Miguel is not capable of doing such a thing. He walks away from the table, leaving his phone behind. He doesn't hear it when it rings...
"He's not answering," says Clara desperately. She is about to try the house phone when, at that very moment, Miguel calls her. When Clara explains what is happening, Miguel agrees to pick them up right away. Consuelo holds her belly and moans. (I don't think these are Braxton-Hicks contractions, folks.)
And speaking of being great with child...
Caridad is with Eladio in his office at GLA when he gets a photo on his phone: It's Marintia showing off her belly. This comes as a nasty shock to Eladio. Marintia is pregnant? Caridad looks away. "Do you know who the father is?" Eladio asks.
Julia admits to her niece that she had her doubts about Franco, but she thinks Gaby looks happy now. She thinks it's time for the young couple to move into their own home and have some privacy. When David gets back and finishes the Santa Fe apartments, that would be the perfect spot. She and Julia will still see each other at the Foundation...
Eladio is getting downright testy. I ASKED YOU WHO THE FATHER IS!!!! Caridad says that is Marintia's business. Eladio recalls that Marintia said she was leaving because her father was sick. Now he realizes she left because she was pregnant – and Caridad knew it! Both women lied to him! He knows Marintia was involved with Franco. And now he wants the truth: Is the baby Franco's?
"Yes, Eladio. We're going to be grandparents."
Eladio is furious. Why didn't she tell him before?
Porque si a mi me pediste que deshiciera de tu propio hijo, ibas a decirle a Franco exactamente lo mismo.
Because if you asked me to get rid of your own child, you were going to tell Franco [to do] exactly the same thing.
Eladio doesn't deny it. Those were the rules and she broke them. Does Franco know?
He does, Caridad says. He wanted Marintia to get an abortion, but "Thank God she decided not to."
Eladio doesn't exactly see it as an occasion for giving thanks. This could be the end of Franco's marriage!
"Breathe!" says Clara, sitting in the backseat with Consuelo. "Hang on!" says Miguel from the driver's seat. But it's no use. Consuelo is going to have this kid right here and right now. Miguel pulls over and calls an emergency number. He and Clara settle Consuelo on the seat, covering her knees with a blanket. Now Clara ventures a look under the blanket and announces that she can see the baby's head. Consuelo grabs Miguel's hand...
Eladio calls Franco into his office. "Why didn't you make sure that Marintia got an abortion?" He thought she had, he says. He couldn't go to the clinic with her because it was the day of his civil marriage ceremony. THWAPP! Franco recoils from Eladio's resounding slap.
"You know what you are? An imbecile! If you had told me, I'd have sent Callao."
Does Franco really think Marintia won't come back from Argentina? She's been sending Caridad photos to update her on her pregnancy. This is news to Franco...
Poor Consuelo. The car door is open, leaving her head unsupported, while both Clara and Miguel are at the business end of the seat. Miguel is following the instructions of a voice on the phone. "Push," they tell Consuelo. And she does. We hear an infant's cry. The baby is here! While Miguel sees to the umbilical cord, Clara rubs the baby's back and reports that he is breathing.
But Franco doesn't look so good. Eladio pushes him into a chair. He hopes Franco knows how he felt when Caridad told him she was pregnant. Someone is always affected by these decisions!
Franco says this will be different – he'll tell Marintia to stay in Argentina. Sure, it will cost a lot of money.
He'd better see to it, says Eladio. Franco is not going to give Julia a reason to hate him! Franco nods in agreement.
Miguel has the baby wrapped in a blanket now, and he hands him to Consuelo. Clara tells the voice on the phone that all is well and they are on their way to the hospital.
Faithful Fanny sits with Nina in the hospital cafeteria and urges her not to give up hope. You never know what might happen...
Daniela shows Arturo her first professional catalog. He is proud of her, but tells her to be careful and very selective. (Understandable. We all remember what happened to the last GLA spokesmodel. On the other hand, with Erick in a coma, spokesmodels everywhere are probably a little safer.) Dani is offended by what she assumes is his over-protectiveness.
Petra rushes in to say Miguel is calling. He gives Arturo the happy news about Consuelo's baby. All three are delighted until buzzkill Dani thinks to ask how Miguel happens to know.
Qué mala onda que Miguel sí estaba con Consuelo mientras mi hermano ni siquiera se puede mover para estar con su hijo.
(What a bummer that Miguel was with Consuelo while my brother can't even move to be with his son.)
Fanny tells Nina to look on the bright side: now that six months have elapsed, if she divorces Arturo, she can get half of everything he owns. Nina can't think about anything but her family right now. She would have given anything for her son to wake up. Even so, Fanny could be right – maybe there is something to be gained from the situation.
Franco phones Marintia. He wants to hear none of her cheap sentimentalism. When the baby is born, he says, she is to leave it in an orphanage. She can't bring it back to Mexico.
When Caridad approaches him, Franco accuses her of convincing Marintia to keep the baby. "Since you showed up in my life, everything has gone badly for me," he tells her. He yells at her to get out – out of the company and out of his life. (The words are nasty enough, but the delivery is a little anemic. The nose twitch is a nice touch though.)
Julia is leafing through a photo album. "We had a great time in Dubai," Gaby says. (So she and Franco must have had their church wedding and honeymoon while we were sitting around The Patio picking our bellybutton lint and trying to choose a name for Consuelo's baby.)
Things haven't been so great for Humberto at The Shady Grove Home for The Nasty, Julia says. He's depressed and the care is, well, shady. Bottom line – Humberto is coming home.
When Callao arrives at The Home to pick up Humberto, the old man says he would never reveal that Franco is Eladio's son. That's good, says Callao. Otherwise he'd have been sent to silence him.
Gaby is a good sport about Humberto's homecoming. She and Julia chat about the Foundation and how much Gaby enjoys the kids. "Imagine having your own children!" gushes Julia.
Humberto tries to pump Callao for information: Is Julia still happy with Eladio? Ask your daughter, Callao tells him. Or Eladio.
Nina is in Erick's room when Clara arrives with the news about the baby. Nina is taken aback – she was planning to be with Consuelo for the delivery (which might explain the precipitous labor – anything to avoid THAT). Wisely, Clara gives Nina no details about the birth.
Eladio already knows that Humberto will be rolling back into their lives, but he assures Gaby that he will have a serious talk with him. He won't be allowed to cause trouble. (Does Eladio have any of those cigars left? They might come in handy about now. KABOOM!)
Franco tells Eladio and Gaby that Daniela won't be coming in today because her nephew was just born. Gaby goes all starry-eyed. She adores babies. "Imagine how it will be when we have our first child, darling!" Franco smiles uneasily. Eladio clenches his jaw. (I could use a spray of whatever-that-crap-is.)
Julia receives Humberto back in the mansion. She warns him that if he bothers Gaby and Franco or interferes with her life, she'll send him back to the Home.
In Monterrey, Regina goes with Jorge to make a final walk-through of the work site. Normally, David would accompany them, but he's in a meeting.
Because of what happened to his mother [she died in childbirth], Miguel admits to Arturo that he was especially nervous about having to deliver Consuelo's baby. Arturo reassures him that Consuelo is fine. He's happy that Miguel was there to receive his grandson and to help Consuelo, but now he needs to stay away from them. "Please."
Nina swoops into Consuelo's room and smilingly announces that she has already seen "little Erick." Consuelo's mouth tightens, but she says nothing. Nina goes on: "But how could you allow Miguel to deliver my grandson? He's the one who put him in a coma! Why didn't you wait for him to be born here?"
Consuelo tries to explain that she didn't exactly plan for things to happen that way. But Nina accuses her of putting the baby at risk.
Gaby tells Franco it's time to think about having children. He's not sure he wants any. "Then we have a problem because I do."
Caridad and Eladio are arguing loudly about Marintia and her baby when Julia walks in. What are they yelling about? And why is Caridad addressing Eladio so familiarly? Eladio gives Caridad a look full of menace.
Franco backpedals. Of course, he wants children. He only meant it wasn't the right time. Gaby softens. She didn't mean right away. She knows he'll be a responsible father. Their child will grow up with happily married parents. And a baby will bring them even closer. They kiss. He smiles over her shoulder, relieved at the easy escape.
Julia doesn't believe Eladio's explanation that he and Caridad were arguing about work. She repeats that Caridad seems a little too familiar with him. Eladio smiles. "Don't tell me you're jealous? I'd love it if you were." Well maybe she is. Eladio kisses her and tries to dismiss the incident. Julia isn't quite as credulous as Gaby, but almost...
Despite the fact that Regina has given this guy absolutely no encouragement, Jorge makes another play for her. He says he wants to keep seeing her when the project is done and they are back in Mexico. She tells him that's impossible because she loves David. He knows, but just in case she changes her mind, he wants her to know that he loves her.
Franco and Humberto meet again in the GL mansion. Franco is feeling pretty smug, now that he is married to Julia's niece. Humberto says he's trying to control himself but "Do you think it's easy for me not to tell Julia that you are Eladio's bastard?"
Jorge makes another unwelcome pitch. Regina shuts him down, but nicely. Once the project is done, she doesn't want to see him again.
Franco rages at Humberto that he can't look down at him because, in fact, he is a Gómez Luna. Humberto scoffs that Franco is only Eladio's bastard. "I doubt very much that he'll ever give you his name." Franco grabs at the old man, nearly pulling him out of his chair. "It's only a matter of time," he says. But Humberto knows Eladio better than Franco does – he will never acknowledge Franco. And this isn't going to end well for him.
So this Jorge fool has still not gotten the message. It is only David's entrance that shuts him up. David is annoyed at Jorge's obvious mooning over Regina. She assures him that Jorge's feelings are his problem – she only has eyes for David. And now they will take another final walk-through the project, only theirs will be a romantic one punctuated by hugs and kisses.
Franco is still manhandling Humberto, who admits that Julia would probably leave Eladio if she knew Franco was his son. And then Eladio would stop supporting Humberto, says Franco. But Humberto is sure Julia would get a generous divorce settlement and she would take care of him.
Franco says Eladio would never forgive a betrayal like that – and death can find anyone at any time. He punches Humberto's upper arm twice – POW POW – and leaves him whimpering and cursing.
In the vecindad, Clara is bubbling over about the birth of Consuelo's baby. She doesn't notice that Caridad is crying. "I was just thinking how for some people, having a child is a beautiful blessing and for others, it's a big threat." She wishes her grandson were not a problem in Franco's life.
Clara doesn't understand. Is Gaby pregnant? No, explains Caridad: Franco is going to have a child, but with Marintia. Does Eladio know? He does.
"I told you, Caridad! I warned you not to cover for Franco!"
Now what will they do if poor Gaby finds out?
Poor Gaby enters the study to talk with Franco. She heard her aunt say how hard it would be to accept a husband's child by another woman. Franco looks up, alarmed: Is she insinuating something? No, she's talking about Nina and Miguel. Franco says it's not Miguel's fault and the way he entered the family is not his fault either.
But it sounds ugly, Gaby tells him. Miguel's case is different – he's the son of Arturo's first wife. And it's not that Franco is a "bastard," but that Julia would never accept a child resulting from an infidelity. Gaby has no intention of telling Julia – it would hurt her too much – but she continues to feel bad about keeping the secret. Franco agrees that he would never want to hurt Julia either, even though revealing the secret would ultimately be good for him because Eladio could finally acknowledge him openly.
Nina brings the baby to Erick's bedside. Arturo joins her, and she puts the child in his arms. He promises to protect him until Erick wakes up. "Does that include protecting him from his Uncle Miguel?" asks Nina.
Consuelo has summoned Miguel to thank him for helping bring her baby into the world. He says it was the most beautiful moment of his life. He felt so close to her and the baby, it was as if only the three of them existed. The baby couldn't have a better mother.
Miguel is about to leave when Consuelo tells him that, despite the circumstances, her feelings for him haven't changed.
Miguel has been standing a respectful distance away, but now he approaches her bedside and leans down to kiss her. She kisses him back.
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Thank you Novelamaven for posting tonight. It was a great read, I can sleep now. I really appreciate and admire your writing.
You really captured Ninas reaction to Consuelo demanding why she didn't wait to deliver baby at the hospital because Nina was going to be with her in delivery room. No thanks, if I were consuelo I would much prefer labor in car with my heading hanging out the door than having Nina right next to me, with who knows what tonterias coming out of her mouth. No gracias. Of course the purple lips are gone, but not the designer threads. Oh my, what to wear in the labor room? Oscar de la renta, Carolina H, decisions decisions.
She really really has it out for Miguel, worst than ever. btw, in her questionable past, I bet she had a baby. And maybe, baby, that might be Clara. Just speculating.
Boohoo we only have tomorrow before the long weekend without our show.☹️
Leticia
You really captured Ninas reaction to Consuelo demanding why she didn't wait to deliver baby at the hospital because Nina was going to be with her in delivery room. No thanks, if I were consuelo I would much prefer labor in car with my heading hanging out the door than having Nina right next to me, with who knows what tonterias coming out of her mouth. No gracias. Of course the purple lips are gone, but not the designer threads. Oh my, what to wear in the labor room? Oscar de la renta, Carolina H, decisions decisions.
She really really has it out for Miguel, worst than ever. btw, in her questionable past, I bet she had a baby. And maybe, baby, that might be Clara. Just speculating.
Boohoo we only have tomorrow before the long weekend without our show.☹️
Leticia
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: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:42:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:42:00 AM EST
I love David and Regina, really I do. But they are so cursi, me dan flojera. And her childhood pal being all gaga, ��. Caramba, sorry don't care, maybe they should join Francisco in Tabasco for good while, they can surface again towards end. I feel mean, sorry but they boring to me.
Leticia
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:51:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:51:00 AM EST
thanks, Novelamaven. it is such a pleasure to have an early morning Novelamaven novela to giggle over. There is not a lot to giggle about on a dark , cold February morning.
Well, I think that it is time to rename Pasion y Poder to Misery y Mayhem. Perhaps we should take a clue from Reggie and wear hardhats over our beanies.
Having delivered three babies, I was mesmerized watching the lovely Connie wearing the long white dress in full makeup and lovely hair pop outbtgat bebe ....in the back of a car ...aided (?) By clueless Clara and Miguel. Yes...verra accurate.
And we see that things are getting serious because NIni seems to have been reduced to wearing chapstick. #acting
Well, I think that it is time to rename Pasion y Poder to Misery y Mayhem. Perhaps we should take a clue from Reggie and wear hardhats over our beanies.
Having delivered three babies, I was mesmerized watching the lovely Connie wearing the long white dress in full makeup and lovely hair pop outbtgat bebe ....in the back of a car ...aided (?) By clueless Clara and Miguel. Yes...verra accurate.
And we see that things are getting serious because NIni seems to have been reduced to wearing chapstick. #acting
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 5:53:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 5:53:00 AM EST
Gracias, NovelaMaven.
I hope Arturo has a long memory about the "I would have done you in" line in the previous episode. I can see Nina going in that direction now and I hope Consuelo filled out the forms stating that the baby's name is Arturo, which was her original intention.
Poor Miguel. Nina is determined to railroad him for Erick's accident and now he may have to protect Consuelo as well.
It looks like Franco might be the one to do Humberto in. I'm sure there was no problem with the care he got at Shady Pines and he whined just to get back into the mansion.
Since Regina has been away from her family home all this time that explains why Daniela hasn't given her and David any grief. That's about to end.
Marintia's days are numbered, too. I can see Callao carrying out orders fairly soon.
I hope Arturo has a long memory about the "I would have done you in" line in the previous episode. I can see Nina going in that direction now and I hope Consuelo filled out the forms stating that the baby's name is Arturo, which was her original intention.
Poor Miguel. Nina is determined to railroad him for Erick's accident and now he may have to protect Consuelo as well.
It looks like Franco might be the one to do Humberto in. I'm sure there was no problem with the care he got at Shady Pines and he whined just to get back into the mansion.
Since Regina has been away from her family home all this time that explains why Daniela hasn't given her and David any grief. That's about to end.
Marintia's days are numbered, too. I can see Callao carrying out orders fairly soon.
The whole storyline of Humberto and the nursing home reminds me of The Golden Girls in which BEA Arthur was constantly threatening her mother with a trip back to Shady Pines. Laughter always ensued. Every time I see that tyrant on wheels spouting his threats, I think what sad , pathetic way to spend one's golden years. Creepy, nasty old dude.
NIni 'S friends, on the other hand is a glass half full kind of gal. Yeah, your good for nothing son is in a coma, but cheer up, you can now get half of your hubby's assests. # Winning
NIni 'S friends, on the other hand is a glass half full kind of gal. Yeah, your good for nothing son is in a coma, but cheer up, you can now get half of your hubby's assests. # Winning
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 7:01:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 7:01:00 AM EST
NM, loved the recap! Thanks so much, it's getting hard to concentrate watching this now since I zone out certain characters who are driving me to the brink. Now that I cleaned up my imploded beanie from yesterday, like to keep my walls clean. Appreciate the recappers giving me the details in an oh, so gentle way.
Seriously though, am on the verge of wanting Arturo, anyway, to just slap Nina silly about the constant Miguel hatred. After 6 months if the police have nothing on him, let it go. And her mini-me Dani, too. I get Nina is all about her poor Erick and needs to vent, but instead of laboring on about Miguel, throw her weight behind pushing the cops to find out who really did it. And Arturo not really being forceful of supporting his son makes me twitch.
And no Miguel does not need to stay away from Consuelo.Cripes, where is everyone when she needs them. That idiot of a husband treated her like crap and Artie knows that. She was abused, verbally and physically, and now she's supposed to be all in with never having a life outside raising his child because, well, it's essentially all about the family...which of course doesn't ever include Miguel. Blast the Bro code that says you don't move in on your brothers wife....in this case, it may be the only happiness those two have ever known.
David/Jorge and Gina--snore.And I love me some Juan Pablo Minor. Can we assume Jorge is going to turn into a stalker, crazy? Oh boy...I'm so excited. NOT!
Crap Hummy is back. I don't think the guy will be around much longer and my vote is on Franco causing some sort of "accident", this moving him further to being the total villain. That staircase is awful handy.
Susanlynn--let me say, I love your title change. So much more appropriate of what we are getting. How many more episodes? Anyone know?
Daisynjay
Seriously though, am on the verge of wanting Arturo, anyway, to just slap Nina silly about the constant Miguel hatred. After 6 months if the police have nothing on him, let it go. And her mini-me Dani, too. I get Nina is all about her poor Erick and needs to vent, but instead of laboring on about Miguel, throw her weight behind pushing the cops to find out who really did it. And Arturo not really being forceful of supporting his son makes me twitch.
And no Miguel does not need to stay away from Consuelo.Cripes, where is everyone when she needs them. That idiot of a husband treated her like crap and Artie knows that. She was abused, verbally and physically, and now she's supposed to be all in with never having a life outside raising his child because, well, it's essentially all about the family...which of course doesn't ever include Miguel. Blast the Bro code that says you don't move in on your brothers wife....in this case, it may be the only happiness those two have ever known.
David/Jorge and Gina--snore.And I love me some Juan Pablo Minor. Can we assume Jorge is going to turn into a stalker, crazy? Oh boy...I'm so excited. NOT!
Crap Hummy is back. I don't think the guy will be around much longer and my vote is on Franco causing some sort of "accident", this moving him further to being the total villain. That staircase is awful handy.
Susanlynn--let me say, I love your title change. So much more appropriate of what we are getting. How many more episodes? Anyone know?
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 7:14:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 7:14:00 AM EST
Nice romp NovelaMaven, much appreciated.
"buzzkill Dani"
Hoping for a blow up between David and Regina. She was a bit too patronizing toward David, not acknowledging a very direct pitch by Jorge was just interrupted.
Who would have known, Miguel, an Uber driver midwife
I feel a bit ashamed, I enjoyed Franco playing punch the clown way too much
"buzzkill Dani"
Hoping for a blow up between David and Regina. She was a bit too patronizing toward David, not acknowledging a very direct pitch by Jorge was just interrupted.
Who would have known, Miguel, an Uber driver midwife
I feel a bit ashamed, I enjoyed Franco playing punch the clown way too much
We are now very close behind Mexico in terms of new episodes. I am wondering whether this is being done on purpose so the writers can find out about US ratings for the series. Here are the ratings for the most recent week available. The only reason MIVAC is .1 higher is because it's in ultimos capitulos.
Telemundo is closing the gap on household ratings and Univision doesn't like that.
Telemundo is closing the gap on household ratings and Univision doesn't like that.
Thanks, NovelaMaven. Very vivid recap. I missed watching last night.
I had a feeling Miguel was gonna wind up helping Connie birth her baby, bringing these two lovebirds even closer. Is that cliché #22?
What a hypocrite Franco is. He wishes Eladio would recognize him as a Gomez Luna, but his own kid he'd send to an orphanage.
What will Connie name the baby? Surely not "Erick." Maybe "Arturo," to drive Nina up a wall.
I had a feeling Miguel was gonna wind up helping Connie birth her baby, bringing these two lovebirds even closer. Is that cliché #22?
What a hypocrite Franco is. He wishes Eladio would recognize him as a Gomez Luna, but his own kid he'd send to an orphanage.
What will Connie name the baby? Surely not "Erick." Maybe "Arturo," to drive Nina up a wall.
Thank You NovelaMaven. You filled in the blanks the weather erased.
It appears that Nina is about as dangerous as anyone on the show. She has told both Connie and Miguel that she should have/would have/wished she had, 'done away' with them. Presumably meaning killed.
About Eladio and Callao and Marintia. Eladio has been good for over half a year now, will some of his old habits die hard? IE: having Callao kill people? He appears to have somehow grown a conscience of sorts, as when we saw him tortured and almost telling Julia the truth about Franky baby. It looks like the evil core in Eladio has oozed out and taken up residence in his offspring Franco. If Caridad would open her stupid eyes and see what Franco really is, she could warn Marintia. She sort of has Eladio's number, but she still does not know how he kept her in jail and killed her Mom.
Dani, David, Regina, slobbering puppy dog with hard hat what's his name, bleh.
It appears that Nina is about as dangerous as anyone on the show. She has told both Connie and Miguel that she should have/would have/wished she had, 'done away' with them. Presumably meaning killed.
About Eladio and Callao and Marintia. Eladio has been good for over half a year now, will some of his old habits die hard? IE: having Callao kill people? He appears to have somehow grown a conscience of sorts, as when we saw him tortured and almost telling Julia the truth about Franky baby. It looks like the evil core in Eladio has oozed out and taken up residence in his offspring Franco. If Caridad would open her stupid eyes and see what Franco really is, she could warn Marintia. She sort of has Eladio's number, but she still does not know how he kept her in jail and killed her Mom.
Dani, David, Regina, slobbering puppy dog with hard hat what's his name, bleh.
Kirby: Old Goat Humberto & Marinita are all but DEAD! It's inevitable!
Urban: Purple Lips may very well have Miguel & Counselo killed. She's had it out for Miguel from Day 1.
If that happens, Arturo will be super devastated!
Niecie: I'm interested to see if they'll bring up Purple Lips' past & if Clara is her bio daughter.
Fanny has to know something about her BFF!
Urban: Purple Lips may very well have Miguel & Counselo killed. She's had it out for Miguel from Day 1.
If that happens, Arturo will be super devastated!
Niecie: I'm interested to see if they'll bring up Purple Lips' past & if Clara is her bio daughter.
Fanny has to know something about her BFF!
That would or will drive Nina up a wall, but that wouldn't be Consuelo's intention. Consuelo loves Arturo and appreciates him while Erick and Daniela take him -- and his money -- for granted. Erick was even OK with it, but I guess his motive was to kiss up to his father.
As an aside, I hate the idea of people naming their children for themselves. The child has a right to his own identity. A lot of people today might also be doing this with the motive of identity theft. In this case, Nina's looking to give her son a Mini-Me. It's also a power trip with Consuelo.
Can anyone tell me how commonplace it is in Mexico to give kids non-Spanish names?
As an aside, I hate the idea of people naming their children for themselves. The child has a right to his own identity. A lot of people today might also be doing this with the motive of identity theft. In this case, Nina's looking to give her son a Mini-Me. It's also a power trip with Consuelo.
Can anyone tell me how commonplace it is in Mexico to give kids non-Spanish names?
Haven't seen this yet, NovelaMaven but sure enjoyed your recap. And agree with Susanlynn, hard to believe a first birth went that fast and that well with unprepared, untrained "obstetricians". Although I had a friend whose children were all born at home, including the first, because her contractions went so swiftly they couldn't get to the hospital in time. A delicate, fine-boned gal but oh my, worthy of the woman in the fields legend when it came to birthing with dispatch and ease.
Loved your noting of Franco's nose twitch when anemically delivering his harsh threat to Caridad. You're not a fan of his ACTING are you? He does have a nice natural looking sneer though, rather like than commodities trader, pharmaceutical gouger who was testifying before Congress the other day.
I see that Pope Francis has declared this the Year of Mercy when all debts are forgiven and all slaves set free. How will this impact the Misery and Mayhem (thanks Susanlynn)on this tumultuous telenovela. Time will tell. Or as Eladio says "tiempo, tiempo"/
Favorite phrase: (which might explain the precipitous labor--anything to avoid THAT).
Loved your noting of Franco's nose twitch when anemically delivering his harsh threat to Caridad. You're not a fan of his ACTING are you? He does have a nice natural looking sneer though, rather like than commodities trader, pharmaceutical gouger who was testifying before Congress the other day.
I see that Pope Francis has declared this the Year of Mercy when all debts are forgiven and all slaves set free. How will this impact the Misery and Mayhem (thanks Susanlynn)on this tumultuous telenovela. Time will tell. Or as Eladio says "tiempo, tiempo"/
Favorite phrase: (which might explain the precipitous labor--anything to avoid THAT).
Don't get here often, but I really enjoy your work, NovelaMaven!
Just a suggestion, but I hope Connie names her son Miguel. (Okay, at heart, I'm a troublemaker). I think that would add an interesting new facet to the family dynamics.
David
Just a suggestion, but I hope Connie names her son Miguel. (Okay, at heart, I'm a troublemaker). I think that would add an interesting new facet to the family dynamics.
David
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:53:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:53:00 AM EST
David !!! We miss you. You won't believe this, but I was just about to offer the same suggestion for a name for the baby !!! ..Miguel. #bringit
NIni asks Connie why she did not "wait" to have the bebe in the hospital. Really, NIni? You have given birth to three babies . Would you have been able to "wait?"
The actor playing Franco really seemed to be pulling roughly on that old actor. Yikes.
NIni asks Connie why she did not "wait" to have the bebe in the hospital. Really, NIni? You have given birth to three babies . Would you have been able to "wait?"
The actor playing Franco really seemed to be pulling roughly on that old actor. Yikes.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:06:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:06:00 AM EST
NovelaMaven, marvelous. I enjoyed your recounting of last night's events far more than the episode. Your keen eye and wry humor are the perfect antidote for these depressing storylines.
Your sharp observations were in fine form with "We all remember what happened to the last GLA spokesmodel. On the other hand, with Erick in a coma, spokesmodels everywhere are probably a little safer" which had me smiling in delight. I also enjoyed "The words are nasty enough, but the delivery is a little anemic" but my favorite was "she and Franco must have had their church wedding and honeymoon while we were sitting around The Patio picking our bellybutton lint and trying to choose a name for Consuelo's baby". Excellent!
I've always liked Miguel (although some of his earlier wide eyed stares were a bit disquieting). I think he has great chemistry with Consuelo and thought that hospital kiss sizzled! I, along with Consuelo (and some of you) would have vastly preferred giving birth in a car with several individuals with no medical training as opposed to having Nina anywhere near me. Consuelo knows full well she is only of significance because she had Erick's child and is of no consequence to Nina whatsoever. I'm not quite sure how Nina remains so slavishly devoted to her son but so dismissive of others. While I feel for her in terms of Erick's condition, I cannot forget how she treated Miguel. Arturo certainly has much to make up for in that regard as well.
Susanlynn, it did appear Franco manhandled Humberto (too realistically). I was also wondering if Eladio's slap to Franco was real (?) If not, Franco looked positively stunned. I just didn't think he was that great of an actor to have that reaction.
UA, ordinarily, I'm not a big fan of people naming their children after themselves, but I'd like to cast my vote for "Arturo", simply as it will likely annoy Nina.
NovelaMaven, thank you again!
Diana
Your sharp observations were in fine form with "We all remember what happened to the last GLA spokesmodel. On the other hand, with Erick in a coma, spokesmodels everywhere are probably a little safer" which had me smiling in delight. I also enjoyed "The words are nasty enough, but the delivery is a little anemic" but my favorite was "she and Franco must have had their church wedding and honeymoon while we were sitting around The Patio picking our bellybutton lint and trying to choose a name for Consuelo's baby". Excellent!
I've always liked Miguel (although some of his earlier wide eyed stares were a bit disquieting). I think he has great chemistry with Consuelo and thought that hospital kiss sizzled! I, along with Consuelo (and some of you) would have vastly preferred giving birth in a car with several individuals with no medical training as opposed to having Nina anywhere near me. Consuelo knows full well she is only of significance because she had Erick's child and is of no consequence to Nina whatsoever. I'm not quite sure how Nina remains so slavishly devoted to her son but so dismissive of others. While I feel for her in terms of Erick's condition, I cannot forget how she treated Miguel. Arturo certainly has much to make up for in that regard as well.
Susanlynn, it did appear Franco manhandled Humberto (too realistically). I was also wondering if Eladio's slap to Franco was real (?) If not, Franco looked positively stunned. I just didn't think he was that great of an actor to have that reaction.
UA, ordinarily, I'm not a big fan of people naming their children after themselves, but I'd like to cast my vote for "Arturo", simply as it will likely annoy Nina.
NovelaMaven, thank you again!
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:35:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:35:00 AM EST
OT ..Judyb...Our morning paper had a photo of that arrogant little weasel wearing that smarmy grin. The caption noted that a lawmaker told him to wipe the smile off his face.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:36:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:36:00 AM EST
Diana...I think that after all Nini's abuse, the writers just might reward longsuffering Connie and Miguel with a happily ever after..and baby Miguel Arturo\Arturo Miguel? makes three. That's my ending anyhoo.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:40:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:40:00 AM EST
Thanks for the wonderful recap!!
That was the worst birthing scene I've ever seen. First, when I see they had a blanket, I thought great, this will go under Connie to try to keep the upholstery clean. But no, they put it on top of her. So basically she is birthing on his back seat. Was there an ounce of blood anywhere when they showed the backseat after delivery? No? Did Miguel even have blood on his hands? No. On his clothes? No. Who cut the umbilical cord and with what? Didn't see that. Just terrible.
That was the worst birthing scene I've ever seen. First, when I see they had a blanket, I thought great, this will go under Connie to try to keep the upholstery clean. But no, they put it on top of her. So basically she is birthing on his back seat. Was there an ounce of blood anywhere when they showed the backseat after delivery? No? Did Miguel even have blood on his hands? No. On his clothes? No. Who cut the umbilical cord and with what? Didn't see that. Just terrible.
I also thought it rather odd that Consuelo was wearing white. That is probably meant to say that she is a pure-hearted woman above suspicion.
Putting the blanket on top of her was all about old-fashioned modesty, as Miguel didn't see anything he was supposed to. This is how Victorian babies were delivered. This will be the defense if Nina tries to make more of this than it was.
And if I had ever wanted to have children and had a suegra like Nina I'd sue the hospital if she were anywhere on the premises while I was there.
Putting the blanket on top of her was all about old-fashioned modesty, as Miguel didn't see anything he was supposed to. This is how Victorian babies were delivered. This will be the defense if Nina tries to make more of this than it was.
And if I had ever wanted to have children and had a suegra like Nina I'd sue the hospital if she were anywhere on the premises while I was there.
Umm but Miguel delivered the baby so he was seeing all of it at that point. Though I give him points for now worrying about his backseat. I'm sure Erick would have dragged her out of the car to protect the leather interior.
Susanlynn: Love #Winning
I too enjoyed Franco manhandling Hummy. And Eladio slapping Franco.
Caridad is not nearly as smart as I was hoping she would be.
The avances make it look like Julia is going to find out about Franco. If so, coming sooner than I would have expected. Say goodbye to happiness Eladio and more therapy bills.
If Connie was smart, she would move far away. I can't see Nina giving her any amount of space now. And I bet Erick wakes up now too.
Susanlynn: Love #Winning
I too enjoyed Franco manhandling Hummy. And Eladio slapping Franco.
Caridad is not nearly as smart as I was hoping she would be.
The avances make it look like Julia is going to find out about Franco. If so, coming sooner than I would have expected. Say goodbye to happiness Eladio and more therapy bills.
If Connie was smart, she would move far away. I can't see Nina giving her any amount of space now. And I bet Erick wakes up now too.
Thanks so much, MovelaMaven! Your recaps always move the action along quickly, while providing maximum entertainment.
One baby out, one more to go.
If in the 6 months they have avoided each other Connie and Miguel still have deep, romantic feelings for each other, then go for it. Screw the rest of the so called family. Arturo will just have to suck it up if he wants to see his grandchild, and Regina would always supportive either way. Who else in that family do they need/want around them?
Looks like Hummy, with assist from Art, is about to explode the secret love child bomb. This should be good! Julia is going to feel so betrayed-- by Eladio, Franco, Gaby, Hummy, Caridad... Long list of people to be ticked off at.
One baby out, one more to go.
If in the 6 months they have avoided each other Connie and Miguel still have deep, romantic feelings for each other, then go for it. Screw the rest of the so called family. Arturo will just have to suck it up if he wants to see his grandchild, and Regina would always supportive either way. Who else in that family do they need/want around them?
Looks like Hummy, with assist from Art, is about to explode the secret love child bomb. This should be good! Julia is going to feel so betrayed-- by Eladio, Franco, Gaby, Hummy, Caridad... Long list of people to be ticked off at.
OT...Kirbo..Our paper reports that he has called himself "the world's most eligible bachelor." As if...the soulless , little creep. Karma, baby, karma. I will be waiting for that karma call.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:44:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:44:00 AM EST
Carvivle...teehee..yes, I could see Erick pulling the laboring Connie out of the car to save the leather seat. ...toad. Anyone who has ever been in labor has zero tolerance for anyone not helping the lady in labor.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:50:00 AM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:50:00 AM EST
Or Erick would think -- like his mama -- that replacing the car would be no big deal after he inherits EVERYTHING.
While most people with his kind of net work would have a will by now, Arturo's would have to change at this point.
While most people with his kind of net work would have a will by now, Arturo's would have to change at this point.
I hope that Connie continues to stay in her place with the baby. At worst, Nina visits or she visits the house. But if she gets talked back into moving to the manor house, she won't have one iota of control over that child. Nina will supercede her on everything and she will be nothing more than an onlooker to her own child's upbringing.
I can see Consuelo caving to pressure to name the child after her abuser....er husband, but I pray she has the audacity to name that poor little thing it's OWN unique name. My perfect dream, Consuelo tells them all to take a hike and she and Miguel move in together. And we get to see Nina implode. Of course, with her recent comments, I can see her pulling an Eladio and looking for her own personal executioner. Mustn't get our own hands dirty.
But if it has to be anyone Connie names the baby after, it will be Arturo. WE know he's a crap person to emulate, but he has been good to her up to this point, so I'll give him that. He needs to stop badgering though too on keeping up appearances and staying with Erick for whatever lame reasons he comes up...that he HIMSELF won't abide by.
Because, uh, who looks like he's sticking his nose into his former flames business again in those previews?
Daisynjay
I can see Consuelo caving to pressure to name the child after her abuser....er husband, but I pray she has the audacity to name that poor little thing it's OWN unique name. My perfect dream, Consuelo tells them all to take a hike and she and Miguel move in together. And we get to see Nina implode. Of course, with her recent comments, I can see her pulling an Eladio and looking for her own personal executioner. Mustn't get our own hands dirty.
But if it has to be anyone Connie names the baby after, it will be Arturo. WE know he's a crap person to emulate, but he has been good to her up to this point, so I'll give him that. He needs to stop badgering though too on keeping up appearances and staying with Erick for whatever lame reasons he comes up...that he HIMSELF won't abide by.
Because, uh, who looks like he's sticking his nose into his former flames business again in those previews?
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:16:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:16:00 PM EST
Daisynjay...Yes, I agree that Connie should take her baby to her apartment. .and maybe get a restraining order against her monsterinlaw. I hope that Connie and Miguel can support and protect each other from their mutual nemisis.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:24:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:24:00 PM EST
I was also wondering if Eladio's slap to Franco was real (?) If not, Franco looked positively stunned. I just didn't think he was that great of an actor to have that reaction.
Diana, I haven't seen this episode yet, but I'm going to watch it closely tonight to see if Franco's face reddens after Eladio's "slap" to see if it's real. I think the Franco actor's skills are coming along in his scenes with his mom and dad. He should appreciate the opportunity to work so closely with these two veterans.
Diana, I haven't seen this episode yet, but I'm going to watch it closely tonight to see if Franco's face reddens after Eladio's "slap" to see if it's real. I think the Franco actor's skills are coming along in his scenes with his mom and dad. He should appreciate the opportunity to work so closely with these two veterans.
Maybe after several rehearsals, he had been accidentally hit a few times so his face was already in slap position.
Maybe FC said, " You don't have to act stunned because I am really going to slap you." Is that method acting? Well, it is one method of getting a true reaction, I suppose. There is a show in which the leading actor and actress have such a strong chemistry that fans have been wondering if the two are actually dating and smitten in real life. They deny it , but they are all over each other at events and interviews. Some leading men and leading ladies have fallen in love while "acting" in love....Brad and Angie for example. Perhaps, FC really felt like giving the guy a smack for some reason. Perfect opportunity!!!
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 1:35:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 1:35:00 PM EST
NovelaMaven--Your name says it all. Thank you for a sterling delivery (pun intended) recapping this family mess.
Musings: I wish Franco had punched Humberto in the right arm--that's the one he needs to steer his hummer-craft. I didn't understand Julia's concern over Humberto's care in Shady Side. Hadn't he been there for years, before he came to the Misery Manse the first time? Ok, so he was depressed, don't they have medication for that?
Tofie--loved your "Miguel, an Uber driver midwife." Consuelo was huge--that would tell me Big Baby--needs an episiotomy to avoid a jagged tear. But, I liked the tn solution, throw a blanket over her knees and work with it. Seems to me we heard the baby cry, followed by Clara getting instructions on how to deliver the shoulders. It was a very "clean" delivery. No blood to stain the car seat. Consuelo looked lovely, not tired at all.
Niecie--I agree with you, but Franco sees Marintia's baby as a betrayal, not as a little creature he's had time to bond with during her pregnancy.
Steve--I'm beginning to favor the idea that something in Nina's past has made her so vehemently and violently antagonistic toward Miguel AND Consuelo. Having given up a child out of wedlock would be realistic. Yes, Clara being the baby she gave up would be poetic justice.
Urban--I don't know how common it is to give non-Spanish names to Mexican children, but just take a look at the credits on all the novelas, movies, shows coming from Mexico and points South and we see it is not so UN-common. A Salvadorean friend of mine and his Brazilian wife living in the States named their first child Emerson, not after Ralph Waldo, but a Brazilian race car driver. They named their second child, Stephanie.
Musings: I wish Franco had punched Humberto in the right arm--that's the one he needs to steer his hummer-craft. I didn't understand Julia's concern over Humberto's care in Shady Side. Hadn't he been there for years, before he came to the Misery Manse the first time? Ok, so he was depressed, don't they have medication for that?
Tofie--loved your "Miguel, an Uber driver midwife." Consuelo was huge--that would tell me Big Baby--needs an episiotomy to avoid a jagged tear. But, I liked the tn solution, throw a blanket over her knees and work with it. Seems to me we heard the baby cry, followed by Clara getting instructions on how to deliver the shoulders. It was a very "clean" delivery. No blood to stain the car seat. Consuelo looked lovely, not tired at all.
Niecie--I agree with you, but Franco sees Marintia's baby as a betrayal, not as a little creature he's had time to bond with during her pregnancy.
Steve--I'm beginning to favor the idea that something in Nina's past has made her so vehemently and violently antagonistic toward Miguel AND Consuelo. Having given up a child out of wedlock would be realistic. Yes, Clara being the baby she gave up would be poetic justice.
Urban--I don't know how common it is to give non-Spanish names to Mexican children, but just take a look at the credits on all the novelas, movies, shows coming from Mexico and points South and we see it is not so UN-common. A Salvadorean friend of mine and his Brazilian wife living in the States named their first child Emerson, not after Ralph Waldo, but a Brazilian race car driver. They named their second child, Stephanie.
I have often wondered whether Nina grew up in a brothel herself and learned at her mother's side. We have seen no relatives on her side and she has never even mentioned any. She could have changed her name as soon as she was old enough and in the days prior to DNA and the internet it was easier to cover up such things. She may not have grown up in DF. We know Arturo doesn't know everything about her past and had never pressed her to talk about it.
Narcissists can't face the uglier elements of themselves and thus shove them onto others. Consuelo was born to a prostitute mother and was still living in the brothel after her mother died until she was taken from it (after a raid?) at the age of eight. She couldn't help that. She might remind Nina on some level of a baby girl she gave up.
Early on in this series someone posed the question of why two fair-skinned blondes came out of an orphanage when this is not the typical profile of someone who grows up in one. Consuelo's mother lived long enough for her to remember her, hence she was eight when she ended up in the orphanage. Clara has no memory of parents, so how do we explain her? Could she have been transferred from another orphanage in another town and got to the DF one just before Consuelo did?
If Augustin thinks it useful, he will try to dig up dirt on Nina and may find something that will shock even Daniela.
As to Miguel, Nina resents him because he is not her spawn. Plus on some level she may have sensed that if he hadn't existed Arturo might not have married her. I'm guessing that he was always more intelligent than Erick, which would only make Nina's hatred of him worse. She might actually like that Erick isn't smart enough to outsmart her and resent that Miguel is.
Narcissists can't face the uglier elements of themselves and thus shove them onto others. Consuelo was born to a prostitute mother and was still living in the brothel after her mother died until she was taken from it (after a raid?) at the age of eight. She couldn't help that. She might remind Nina on some level of a baby girl she gave up.
Early on in this series someone posed the question of why two fair-skinned blondes came out of an orphanage when this is not the typical profile of someone who grows up in one. Consuelo's mother lived long enough for her to remember her, hence she was eight when she ended up in the orphanage. Clara has no memory of parents, so how do we explain her? Could she have been transferred from another orphanage in another town and got to the DF one just before Consuelo did?
If Augustin thinks it useful, he will try to dig up dirt on Nina and may find something that will shock even Daniela.
As to Miguel, Nina resents him because he is not her spawn. Plus on some level she may have sensed that if he hadn't existed Arturo might not have married her. I'm guessing that he was always more intelligent than Erick, which would only make Nina's hatred of him worse. She might actually like that Erick isn't smart enough to outsmart her and resent that Miguel is.
NovelaMaven---Your recaps are always so much fun--an example. With Erick in a coma, spoksmodels everywhere are probably a little safer. You always leave me with morning smiles and laughter.
Speaking of corporate spoksmodels--when did corporate spoksmodels become so famous?
I mean that Dani didn't make the Victoria Secret top ten list nor is she a top Vogue
model so why are there autograph seekers chasing after her?
Bruja Nina was in her best bruja mode at the hospital with Consuelo. I would Just love for Consuelo to name her son Miguel. Arturo would be a good second choice. Nina wouldn't be able to control herself if that were to happen and probably would be worth the whole price of the novela alone.
Daisynjay---Nina should throw her weight behind pushing the cops to finding out who really did it.---Good point but Nina already knows who did it, it was Miguel. Punto
case closed.
The young piss-ant Franco is on the phone telling Marintia that when the baby is born, she must take it and drop it off at an orphanage. Oh really? I was waiting for Marintia to tell him to go and take a flying leap over the moon and then hang up on him.
Carvivlie---Right, Connie will have no space and probably little say so in anything from now on. Pack up and leave would be her best option.
Steve---Purple Lips may very well have Miguel and Consuelo killed. May be true but OMG! you can't say that. The bruja Nina lovers on the patio will have you tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail for making like that. For your own safety, take it back and beg forgiveness and mercy.
So Julia learns the truth. I'm not leaving my tv for even a snack tonight and I might even practice not blinking as I don't to miss even a second or two of tonight's show.
must see tv
the gringo
Speaking of corporate spoksmodels--when did corporate spoksmodels become so famous?
I mean that Dani didn't make the Victoria Secret top ten list nor is she a top Vogue
model so why are there autograph seekers chasing after her?
Bruja Nina was in her best bruja mode at the hospital with Consuelo. I would Just love for Consuelo to name her son Miguel. Arturo would be a good second choice. Nina wouldn't be able to control herself if that were to happen and probably would be worth the whole price of the novela alone.
Daisynjay---Nina should throw her weight behind pushing the cops to finding out who really did it.---Good point but Nina already knows who did it, it was Miguel. Punto
case closed.
The young piss-ant Franco is on the phone telling Marintia that when the baby is born, she must take it and drop it off at an orphanage. Oh really? I was waiting for Marintia to tell him to go and take a flying leap over the moon and then hang up on him.
Carvivlie---Right, Connie will have no space and probably little say so in anything from now on. Pack up and leave would be her best option.
Steve---Purple Lips may very well have Miguel and Consuelo killed. May be true but OMG! you can't say that. The bruja Nina lovers on the patio will have you tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail for making like that. For your own safety, take it back and beg forgiveness and mercy.
So Julia learns the truth. I'm not leaving my tv for even a snack tonight and I might even practice not blinking as I don't to miss even a second or two of tonight's show.
must see tv
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:30:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:30:00 PM EST
Niecie, you made an excellent point about Franco's acting improving.
After thinking about it, he is mostly onscreen with Fernando, Susana and Isabella. I would imagine it would be difficult for a more seasoned actor to hold their own with these top notch actors. He has done fairly well all things considered.
Once you have the chance to watch, I would be interested to know if you think Eladio's slap was real or not.
Diana
After thinking about it, he is mostly onscreen with Fernando, Susana and Isabella. I would imagine it would be difficult for a more seasoned actor to hold their own with these top notch actors. He has done fairly well all things considered.
Once you have the chance to watch, I would be interested to know if you think Eladio's slap was real or not.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:58:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:58:00 PM EST
Thanks for another superb recap, NovelaMaven. You know how much I admire your work.
Just a few quick thoughts to add here today.
I believe that Eladio helped arrange a renal transplant for Callao's daughter. I don't think that we've ever been told her age or where she is presently.
Don't those of you who have condemned Nina a soulless narcissist incapable of love find her loyal vigil at her son's bedside and her comments to her friend in last night's episode inconsistent with your brutal (and largely unfounded and unsubstantiated) assessment of her character?
How very characteristic of Arturo to forget their anniversary.
I thought that Arturo's kissing Coni's pregnant belly in Wednesday's episode was especially icky.
UA, you said this yesterday:
"Nina trying to give Ape Child his therapy in a designer dress. No reputable hospital would allow that."
I respectfully disagree. She is his mother and was likely instructed in the way to do the passive exercises for him by his regular physical therapists who would certainly appreciate these efforts on her part no matter how she is dressed.
And finally, Nina overheard Miguel saying that Erick should be dead, wouldn't that make any mom suspicious, especially since he has shamelessly declared his love for his brother's wife?
Is it just me or wasn't the Patio once a much friendlier and more tolerant retreat?
Carlos
Just a few quick thoughts to add here today.
I believe that Eladio helped arrange a renal transplant for Callao's daughter. I don't think that we've ever been told her age or where she is presently.
Don't those of you who have condemned Nina a soulless narcissist incapable of love find her loyal vigil at her son's bedside and her comments to her friend in last night's episode inconsistent with your brutal (and largely unfounded and unsubstantiated) assessment of her character?
How very characteristic of Arturo to forget their anniversary.
I thought that Arturo's kissing Coni's pregnant belly in Wednesday's episode was especially icky.
UA, you said this yesterday:
"Nina trying to give Ape Child his therapy in a designer dress. No reputable hospital would allow that."
I respectfully disagree. She is his mother and was likely instructed in the way to do the passive exercises for him by his regular physical therapists who would certainly appreciate these efforts on her part no matter how she is dressed.
And finally, Nina overheard Miguel saying that Erick should be dead, wouldn't that make any mom suspicious, especially since he has shamelessly declared his love for his brother's wife?
Is it just me or wasn't the Patio once a much friendlier and more tolerant retreat?
Carlos
If the actor playing Franco pissed off FC, he may have really smacked him. I was doing a play once, and I got mad at my co-star for bringing his dog to rehearsal because all it did was bark the whole time. When it came time for him to shove me to the ground, oh boy did I hit the ground hard. Jerk
Carlos..Art kissing pregnant Connie's tummy creeped me out. Why do people think that it is perfectly fine to touch a pregnant woman's belly? Hey, that is me surrounding the baby..personal space, please.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:22:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:22:00 PM EST
Carvivke..Jerk, indeed. I am sure that true feelings are sometimes shown on stage or in front of a camera. Love scenes must be difficult when the two people do not like each other . Also, fight scenes might get a little too realistic .
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:25:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:25:00 PM EST
Carlos--Everyone is welcome on the Patio, even if we end up with our feathers a bit ruffled.
But I agree, some of us could tone down our language when directed at individuals. I for one, love all your carefully parsed comments and mixed drinks.
I've missed you the last few days and hoped fervently you hadn't left the Patio for good.
But I agree, some of us could tone down our language when directed at individuals. I for one, love all your carefully parsed comments and mixed drinks.
I've missed you the last few days and hoped fervently you hadn't left the Patio for good.
The slap did seem more realistic than some of the awful fake ones we've seen. We already have the precedent that maybe goofs are left in with the cameras rolling when we saw the disaster with the desk in Eladio's office when he and Julia tried to make out on it. They actually tried twice, still no go and the cameras and kept going as did the actors. With FC having to lean in to do that, if the actors were not placed perfectly and he fell more into the slap then intended, he may really have wacked Franco versus doing the close call movement. Keep cameras rolling and it's a take.
Carlos, I will agree on the family therapy. When a friend had her mother in a coma for several months, to keep muscles and blood flow, the family asked if while they were there is they could assist in the needed therapy that helps with those issues. They took required instructions and when they were visting were allowed to do those same simple style arm movements, etc. Noone had to wear special garb. Now, Nina always dresses stylish, that's who she is. That actually seemed very realistic to me. The nurse with my friend admitted it makes the family feel useful in helping the patient.
That said, sorry, still don't like her attitude towards Connie and Miguel.
Daisynjay
Carlos, I will agree on the family therapy. When a friend had her mother in a coma for several months, to keep muscles and blood flow, the family asked if while they were there is they could assist in the needed therapy that helps with those issues. They took required instructions and when they were visting were allowed to do those same simple style arm movements, etc. Noone had to wear special garb. Now, Nina always dresses stylish, that's who she is. That actually seemed very realistic to me. The nurse with my friend admitted it makes the family feel useful in helping the patient.
That said, sorry, still don't like her attitude towards Connie and Miguel.
Daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:54:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:54:00 PM EST
Carlos...I was creeped out by Art missing Connie's tummy.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:55:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:55:00 PM EST
No...he did not miss ..he Kissed her tummy...awkward.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:56:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:56:00 PM EST
Oh Susanlynn I was freaked out by that too. I thought it went too far as a father-in-law and kissing her tummy.
I don't even like that when intimate partners do it but I've always been rather squeamish about pregnancy anyway.
I don't have a problem with a mate kissing a pregnant tummy , but it bothers me when other folks think it is okay to touch a pregnant belly. Like, hey, that is me around the baby...personal space. It would have freaked me out if my father in-law did that...yikes.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:32:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:32:00 PM EST
Anita,
Thanks. No one enjoys good-natured disagreements more than I do but responding to personal attacks is a horse of a different color.
Daisynjay,
"... it makes the family feel useful in helping the patient."
Indeed it is helpful to both patient and family in so many ways. Even if I didn't like Nina (as most here don't) this selfless act day after day might make me rethink a totally negative opinion of her.
Carlos
Thanks. No one enjoys good-natured disagreements more than I do but responding to personal attacks is a horse of a different color.
Daisynjay,
"... it makes the family feel useful in helping the patient."
Indeed it is helpful to both patient and family in so many ways. Even if I didn't like Nina (as most here don't) this selfless act day after day might make me rethink a totally negative opinion of her.
Carlos
I haven’t read the recap yet, it will be my evening dessert after two days of watching/driving a 9 and 11 year old. I will thank you properly later NovelaMaven.
Further on Nina...
In the HOSPITAL CAFETERIA, when Fanny congratulated Nina on passing the 25 year postnup mark, Nina quickly said it wasn’t the money, she just wanted her family together....not the words of a narcisst.
I’m not sure who thinks that Nina’s dress is an Oscar, or any other expensive US designer, it was a simple wool dress with a fringe. Should she wear the Mexican equivalent of a Denver Broncos t-shirt to the hospital? She looked wonderful, and as Carlos said, the hospital staff was happy to have her EVERY DAY at her son’s bedside.
In the capitulo yesterday, as Nina watched over Erik in a coma, she stroked his head and said that she was reminded of the times that she sat by his bedside while he was an infant, worrying that she wouldn’t keep him safe.....This is a universal worry of GOOD mothers, not selfish narcissists.
Further on Nina...
In the HOSPITAL CAFETERIA, when Fanny congratulated Nina on passing the 25 year postnup mark, Nina quickly said it wasn’t the money, she just wanted her family together....not the words of a narcisst.
I’m not sure who thinks that Nina’s dress is an Oscar, or any other expensive US designer, it was a simple wool dress with a fringe. Should she wear the Mexican equivalent of a Denver Broncos t-shirt to the hospital? She looked wonderful, and as Carlos said, the hospital staff was happy to have her EVERY DAY at her son’s bedside.
In the capitulo yesterday, as Nina watched over Erik in a coma, she stroked his head and said that she was reminded of the times that she sat by his bedside while he was an infant, worrying that she wouldn’t keep him safe.....This is a universal worry of GOOD mothers, not selfish narcissists.
I think like Eladio, the writers are rehabilitating Nina's character by making her now look like she was a caring mother.
Thank you very match for a brilliant recap, NM! I'm a big fan of your writing style and your sense of humor.
Gotta dash. Just wanted to stop by to thank you for the recap and to thank JudyB for her lovely message from yesterday (I'll post the translation for "Encadenados" as soon as I can tomorrow).
I haven't had a chance to read the comments but I look forward to reading them mañana.
Quick parting remarks:
-- The mark of a fantastic villain is evident in the fact that the entire Patio has been planning ways to off a disabled senior citizen! You go, Humberto!
-- After the longest gestational period in the history of the human race, Chimp Boy's baby is finally born, delivered by his uncle / future stepdaddy no less! Welcome to the Montenegro family, little Koko! No amount of therapy will cure the dysfunction that awaits you!
-- That was such a great wallop upside the head that Franco received, even I felt it! Glad to see that Bad Boy Eladio retains some of his explosive temper!
Me tengo que retirar, buenas noches a todos. :)
Gotta dash. Just wanted to stop by to thank you for the recap and to thank JudyB for her lovely message from yesterday (I'll post the translation for "Encadenados" as soon as I can tomorrow).
I haven't had a chance to read the comments but I look forward to reading them mañana.
Quick parting remarks:
-- The mark of a fantastic villain is evident in the fact that the entire Patio has been planning ways to off a disabled senior citizen! You go, Humberto!
-- After the longest gestational period in the history of the human race, Chimp Boy's baby is finally born, delivered by his uncle / future stepdaddy no less! Welcome to the Montenegro family, little Koko! No amount of therapy will cure the dysfunction that awaits you!
-- That was such a great wallop upside the head that Franco received, even I felt it! Glad to see that Bad Boy Eladio retains some of his explosive temper!
Me tengo que retirar, buenas noches a todos. :)
Lest we forget, Nina has *always* favored Erick as her first born son. Mothers love their daughters, but there's something about a boy being the first born--the bond is always tightest. And, those moms have the luxury of spending more alone time with the first born. As other children come along, there is less time and they don't get the same undivided attention.
First born or later born little girls are known for bonding more tightly with their dads and wrapping them around their little fingers with just a pirouette in a tutu.
First born or later born little girls are known for bonding more tightly with their dads and wrapping them around their little fingers with just a pirouette in a tutu.
I just wonder what was happening to poor little Miguel in that house with dad preoccupied with work and a stepmom who disliked him so much . I hope that the writers give him some happiness. Was he Cinderfella ?
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 5:46:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 5:46:00 PM EST
Susanlynn: I'm wondering too & afraid that Purple Lips not only disliked little Miguel, but likely beat him viciously!
I suspect that Miguel had a nanny who was hired before he was even born. They never said anything about whether the pregnancy was difficult but nobody with a house like that would be without a nanny.
Miguel was six months old when King Arturo married the Wicked Stepmother so she would have kept that nanny and probably replaced her when Ape Child was born, if the original nanny didn't resign after first dealing with Nina and her attitude. Daniela spoke in a deleted scene of having had a nanny, so it's a reasonable conclusion that there were nannies through all their childhoods, as they would all be fairly close in age.
The scene of Arturo kissing Consuelo's pregnant belly bothered me, but remember that in a family with a narcissistic mother and a daughter-in-law who was raised first in a brothel and then in an orphanage there are no normal boundaries.
Nina's interest in Erick's survival is not unrelated to the fact that she can rule him better than she can rule her daughters. She has an egocentric interest in thinking that he is intelligent enough to take care of her intere$t$ and the family business, which is something she does not expect of either daughter. That Regina is the most qualified to inherit the corner office of GM does not even occur to her although it is obvious to almost everyone else. Her vision of her "perfect family" is a delusion.
Miguel was six months old when King Arturo married the Wicked Stepmother so she would have kept that nanny and probably replaced her when Ape Child was born, if the original nanny didn't resign after first dealing with Nina and her attitude. Daniela spoke in a deleted scene of having had a nanny, so it's a reasonable conclusion that there were nannies through all their childhoods, as they would all be fairly close in age.
The scene of Arturo kissing Consuelo's pregnant belly bothered me, but remember that in a family with a narcissistic mother and a daughter-in-law who was raised first in a brothel and then in an orphanage there are no normal boundaries.
Nina's interest in Erick's survival is not unrelated to the fact that she can rule him better than she can rule her daughters. She has an egocentric interest in thinking that he is intelligent enough to take care of her intere$t$ and the family business, which is something she does not expect of either daughter. That Regina is the most qualified to inherit the corner office of GM does not even occur to her although it is obvious to almost everyone else. Her vision of her "perfect family" is a delusion.
Sandy,
"Further on Nina..."
Thanks. Everything you said was spot on.
Based on the prevailing conventional wisdom here, Nina was a gold digging narcissistic prostitute who gave birth to a bastard child before snaring the emotionally damaged and vulnerable good man Arturo and then regularly beat and abused his son by a previous marriage. She bode her time for the next 24 plus years so she could get her hands on half of his considerable family fortune, meanwhile giving birth to three more children fathered by God knows whom.
Carlos
"Further on Nina..."
Thanks. Everything you said was spot on.
Based on the prevailing conventional wisdom here, Nina was a gold digging narcissistic prostitute who gave birth to a bastard child before snaring the emotionally damaged and vulnerable good man Arturo and then regularly beat and abused his son by a previous marriage. She bode her time for the next 24 plus years so she could get her hands on half of his considerable family fortune, meanwhile giving birth to three more children fathered by God knows whom.
Carlos
Good evening, friends,
I'm sorry I've been off the grid all day and haven't been able to respond to your comments until now.
First, thank you to everyone for stopping by. I especially appreciate the kind words. And as always, it's fun to see people so engaged in this story.
Second, I hope we can be a little kinder to each other around here. It's fine to disagree. In fact, it's fun to disagree. But no one should ever feel personally attacked in this little community. It's easy to forget how hard-edged the written word can be when there is no body language, facial expression or tone of voice to moderate it. So please, everyone, read what you've written before you hit that "Publish" button. If you have any doubts, don't post it.
As for Nina – I'm not a fan, but last night was definitely her night, or at least Marlene Favela's. We saw her without her mask, both alone in the hospital room with Erick and in her scenes with her friend Fanny. Her grief over what had happened to her child and her devotion to him were evident. That doesn't negate her unkindness to Miguel, her rejection of Consuelo from the time Erick brought her home or her insensitivity to Regina, for example, when she tried to force her into a marriage with the dreadful Joshua. But it makes her a three-dimensional human being who is suffering.
That she is also inflicting suffering on others is undeniable. She is convinced that her feelings about Miguel are justified. If she were sitting with us on The Patio, of course, she would know that Miguel had nothing to do with sabotaging the brakes on Erick's car, though she would still resent him because of his feelings for Consuelo.
I do find it interesting that she shows no misgivings about keeping Erick's "confession" to herself. I wonder how she would react if someone else were charged with rodenticide...
I'm sorry I've been off the grid all day and haven't been able to respond to your comments until now.
First, thank you to everyone for stopping by. I especially appreciate the kind words. And as always, it's fun to see people so engaged in this story.
Second, I hope we can be a little kinder to each other around here. It's fine to disagree. In fact, it's fun to disagree. But no one should ever feel personally attacked in this little community. It's easy to forget how hard-edged the written word can be when there is no body language, facial expression or tone of voice to moderate it. So please, everyone, read what you've written before you hit that "Publish" button. If you have any doubts, don't post it.
As for Nina – I'm not a fan, but last night was definitely her night, or at least Marlene Favela's. We saw her without her mask, both alone in the hospital room with Erick and in her scenes with her friend Fanny. Her grief over what had happened to her child and her devotion to him were evident. That doesn't negate her unkindness to Miguel, her rejection of Consuelo from the time Erick brought her home or her insensitivity to Regina, for example, when she tried to force her into a marriage with the dreadful Joshua. But it makes her a three-dimensional human being who is suffering.
That she is also inflicting suffering on others is undeniable. She is convinced that her feelings about Miguel are justified. If she were sitting with us on The Patio, of course, she would know that Miguel had nothing to do with sabotaging the brakes on Erick's car, though she would still resent him because of his feelings for Consuelo.
I do find it interesting that she shows no misgivings about keeping Erick's "confession" to herself. I wonder how she would react if someone else were charged with rodenticide...
Gringo: Re. Dani signing autographs. See my rant yesterday about the impossibility of a cut brake line, a singular failure, wrecking a car. Since cars have had double, IE: redundant, brakes for 30 years.
NovelaMaven,
Nina thinks that Monse's death, as Erick described, was an accident. She told Arturo as much immediately. If fact, viewerville has spent several days looking at every possible perpetrator OTHER than Erik. Why would a devoted mother, who thinks that in reality the death was a terrible accident, bother to spread the "confession" of her comatose son from here to yonder?
Because the writers conveniently had Miguel say that he wished Erik dead, it is very reasonable to think that Nina might blame him for the brake failure.
Thanks Carlos and ditto on your "prevailing conventional wisdom" assessment.
Nina thinks that Monse's death, as Erick described, was an accident. She told Arturo as much immediately. If fact, viewerville has spent several days looking at every possible perpetrator OTHER than Erik. Why would a devoted mother, who thinks that in reality the death was a terrible accident, bother to spread the "confession" of her comatose son from here to yonder?
Because the writers conveniently had Miguel say that he wished Erik dead, it is very reasonable to think that Nina might blame him for the brake failure.
Thanks Carlos and ditto on your "prevailing conventional wisdom" assessment.
Carlos,
Thanks for commenting on the friendliness of patio. It will help nip in the bud, my opinion is that we are still a friendly lot and definitely more civilized and respectful than most other blogs. It is part of sharing and exchanging ideas. I sometimes feel ignored or unacknowledge, but oh well, I get over it because I know I am being too sensitive.
Your comments make alot of sense. I and many others look forward to your thoughts and your way of looking at things, in fact my perspective on a character or events are influenced after hearing different sides. I think we all enjoy watching together and discussing because some of us don't know anyone else in our circles that love novelas the way we do.
Okay time go watch some action. Lites out. ����
Leticia
Thanks for commenting on the friendliness of patio. It will help nip in the bud, my opinion is that we are still a friendly lot and definitely more civilized and respectful than most other blogs. It is part of sharing and exchanging ideas. I sometimes feel ignored or unacknowledge, but oh well, I get over it because I know I am being too sensitive.
Your comments make alot of sense. I and many others look forward to your thoughts and your way of looking at things, in fact my perspective on a character or events are influenced after hearing different sides. I think we all enjoy watching together and discussing because some of us don't know anyone else in our circles that love novelas the way we do.
Okay time go watch some action. Lites out. ����
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:04:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:04:00 PM EST
Leticia, please know that I always enjoy your comments. I apologize for not acknowledging you personally today – it was just one of those days. You definitely add something positive to the conversation.
Carlos...Maybe it is time to start a recipe exchange . As I recall, we got in trouble here in the past for doing that. Heh..corn pudding ? It is delicious.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:13:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:13:00 PM EST
Leticia...Lately, I have stumbled into a couple other sites, and I am amazed at how viciously people attack each other. It's scary.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:17:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:17:00 PM EST
NovellaMaven, thanks for this really good recappin of this messed up episode.
First off these are some of the craziest folk I
Have ever watched.
Eladio is a very confussed man, he's very maddening........ok he's a crazy ass man.
"You know what you are? An Embecile!!!! Just like Dear ol dad. See, he's crazy.
And nina blames connie because the baby
Came when he did, and miguel helped. If it were anybody else there'd be a thank you for
Catching my grandson safely. I think shes
Jealous and spittin mad cause miguel reminds her that shes not one that been in artys business. But she knows that was a union Of convenience or does she? Still he was this Cute kid, whose now a gorgeous young man.
Whose a better man than her coma inflicted
Offspring.
Does connie really want erick? After hes shown such blatant disrespect for her? Now
Shes stuck with a veggie. That she may or
May not still love.
That jorge guy I'd like to send him away. He's
Very annoying. He'd be good for dani.
More craziness tonight.
First off these are some of the craziest folk I
Have ever watched.
Eladio is a very confussed man, he's very maddening........ok he's a crazy ass man.
"You know what you are? An Embecile!!!! Just like Dear ol dad. See, he's crazy.
And nina blames connie because the baby
Came when he did, and miguel helped. If it were anybody else there'd be a thank you for
Catching my grandson safely. I think shes
Jealous and spittin mad cause miguel reminds her that shes not one that been in artys business. But she knows that was a union Of convenience or does she? Still he was this Cute kid, whose now a gorgeous young man.
Whose a better man than her coma inflicted
Offspring.
Does connie really want erick? After hes shown such blatant disrespect for her? Now
Shes stuck with a veggie. That she may or
May not still love.
That jorge guy I'd like to send him away. He's
Very annoying. He'd be good for dani.
More craziness tonight.
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:37:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:37:00 PM EST
NovelaMaven,
Oh no please dont apologize. I didnt mean you or anyone in particular. I didnt mean to bring attention to myself. I myself am guilty of not acknowledging most people's comments, because by the time I finish reading comments. I make mental notes of all the comments that I want to acknowledge or give kudos to, but my mental notes turn to mush by the time I finish reading everything. So there you have it, I apologize for saying something that I shouldn't have. Btw, I notice Mr S Boudreau has been very polite and I enjoy when he posts something. Everyone's unique personality shows through and keeps it very interesting.
I just love all my novela buds.
Leticia
Oh no please dont apologize. I didnt mean you or anyone in particular. I didnt mean to bring attention to myself. I myself am guilty of not acknowledging most people's comments, because by the time I finish reading comments. I make mental notes of all the comments that I want to acknowledge or give kudos to, but my mental notes turn to mush by the time I finish reading everything. So there you have it, I apologize for saying something that I shouldn't have. Btw, I notice Mr S Boudreau has been very polite and I enjoy when he posts something. Everyone's unique personality shows through and keeps it very interesting.
I just love all my novela buds.
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:41:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:41:00 PM EST
Nina, you sure tell it like it is. Lol
Yes Jorge would be good for Dani, but shes a maneater, she would chew and spit him out in no time. Now if Regina decided she was interested, thats a horse of a different color. She would do anything and use her assets to take him away. So he probably wouldn't hold any appeal since Reggie don't want him.
Leticia
Yes Jorge would be good for Dani, but shes a maneater, she would chew and spit him out in no time. Now if Regina decided she was interested, thats a horse of a different color. She would do anything and use her assets to take him away. So he probably wouldn't hold any appeal since Reggie don't want him.
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:49:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:49:00 PM EST
UA, I really like Clara. She is real. She is truthful to her friends, she doesn't go along with the flow just because. She is caring loyal person. Jorge and her make cute pairing. However, I think her maternal instinct towards Luisita is drawing her towards Justino. She is not entirely on board with that because his wife was like a dear sister to her, but I think Luisitas mom (blanked on her name) would be happy for her to take care of her family. Wouldn't it be nice if the patio could vote and pick the couple's we want together. Who would you pick for Marintia? I am stumped on that except for Franco.
Leticia
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:27:00 PM EST
: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 11:27:00 PM EST
-- Nina and Leticia: I like your pairing Daniela The Maneater with Jorge The Teenage Foreman. He has swagger, strength of character and, I would imagine, street smarts. He could teach the spoilt rich brat a thing or two about what real life entails and what real problems look like. He's like nobody she's ever dated. Her usual fare are sissified rich boys that lavish gifts and attention on her. This bonnie lad is young but a life of hard work has forged a man of mettle out of him.
-- UA: You're right, Jorge would be a good match for Clarita but I think she has enough "pretendientes" as it is. Justino is ahead in the game now but Paquito can always come back from his Tabasco exile and sweep Blondie off her feet again. Moreover, I still haven't lost hope that Miguel would reconsider his icky romance with his sister-in-law and spare himself all the aggravation by giving Clarita a chance to win his heart. She is as beautiful, wholesome and affectionate as Consuelo. Also, she is an orphan and she is not married to his odious brother i.e. zero family drama to contend with!
-- Susanlynn: Mouthbreather and Chimp Boy would make a great couple! They are "tal para cual"! Though I think the way his coma is going, Erick might be meeting his beloved Montse in Hades soon. And boy will she be "pished aff" (as my Scottish friends would say) when she sees him!
-- Carlos and Sandy: Great to have you back! It was starting to feel lonely at the Nina Table! ;)
-- NovelaMaven: You are right. No matter how vehemently we may disagree, we should always try to do it respectfully. Thanks for the gentle reminder to play nicely on the Patio. And duly noted! (Thank you very "match" as per my earlier typo! :p)
-- UA: You're right, Jorge would be a good match for Clarita but I think she has enough "pretendientes" as it is. Justino is ahead in the game now but Paquito can always come back from his Tabasco exile and sweep Blondie off her feet again. Moreover, I still haven't lost hope that Miguel would reconsider his icky romance with his sister-in-law and spare himself all the aggravation by giving Clarita a chance to win his heart. She is as beautiful, wholesome and affectionate as Consuelo. Also, she is an orphan and she is not married to his odious brother i.e. zero family drama to contend with!
-- Susanlynn: Mouthbreather and Chimp Boy would make a great couple! They are "tal para cual"! Though I think the way his coma is going, Erick might be meeting his beloved Montse in Hades soon. And boy will she be "pished aff" (as my Scottish friends would say) when she sees him!
-- Carlos and Sandy: Great to have you back! It was starting to feel lonely at the Nina Table! ;)
-- NovelaMaven: You are right. No matter how vehemently we may disagree, we should always try to do it respectfully. Thanks for the gentle reminder to play nicely on the Patio. And duly noted! (Thank you very "match" as per my earlier typo! :p)
“Encadenados” (Chained Together) is a beautiful song that reminds me so much of the Gómez Luna couple, and of the way they seem to be chained to one another and stuck in an endless cycle of codependence, love, pain, jealousy, passion, obsession and betrayal. My favorite version of this song is the one by Luis Miguel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-CCy57cfoo
For JudyB and anyone else who may be interested, as promised, here is a personal translation and interpretation of the song’s lyrics:
Tal vez sería mejor que no volvieras.
Maybe it would be better if you wouldn’t return.
Quizás fuera mejor que me olvidaras.
Perhaps it would be better if you would forget me.
Volver es empezar a atormentarnos,
To come back is to start tormenting ourselves,
a querernos para odiarnos,
loving each other till we hate each other,
sin principio ni final.
without beginning or end.
Nos hemos hecho tanto, tanto daño
We have done each other so much harm
que amor entre nosotros es martirio.
that love between us is martyrdom (agony).
Jamás quiso llegar el desengaño,
Disillusion never wanted to come to us,
ni el olvido ni el delirio;
neither did the ability to forget nor the delirium (to inhibit the pain of separation);
seguiremos siempre igual.
we’ll always remain the same way.
Cariño como el nuestro es un castigo
A love like ours is a punishment
que se lleva en el alma hasta la muerte;
that is carried in one’s soul until death;
mi suerte necesita de tu suerte
my fate is in need of your fate
Y tú me necesitas mucho más.
and you need me even more.
Por eso no habrá nunca despedida,
That's why there will never be a farewell,
Ni paz alguna habrá de consolarnos.
nor will there be any peace to console us.
El paso del dolor, ha de encontrarnos
The path of pain ought to find us
de rodillas en la vida,
in life on our knees (chained together),
frente a frente... y nada más.
face to face... and nothing more.
It's 05:30 a.m. here and I'm heading out for a little weekend adventure. Catch you all on Sunday night. Hope everybody has a great weekend! Hasta luego!
For JudyB and anyone else who may be interested, as promised, here is a personal translation and interpretation of the song’s lyrics:
Tal vez sería mejor que no volvieras.
Maybe it would be better if you wouldn’t return.
Quizás fuera mejor que me olvidaras.
Perhaps it would be better if you would forget me.
Volver es empezar a atormentarnos,
To come back is to start tormenting ourselves,
a querernos para odiarnos,
loving each other till we hate each other,
sin principio ni final.
without beginning or end.
Nos hemos hecho tanto, tanto daño
We have done each other so much harm
que amor entre nosotros es martirio.
that love between us is martyrdom (agony).
Jamás quiso llegar el desengaño,
Disillusion never wanted to come to us,
ni el olvido ni el delirio;
neither did the ability to forget nor the delirium (to inhibit the pain of separation);
seguiremos siempre igual.
we’ll always remain the same way.
Cariño como el nuestro es un castigo
A love like ours is a punishment
que se lleva en el alma hasta la muerte;
that is carried in one’s soul until death;
mi suerte necesita de tu suerte
my fate is in need of your fate
Y tú me necesitas mucho más.
and you need me even more.
Por eso no habrá nunca despedida,
That's why there will never be a farewell,
Ni paz alguna habrá de consolarnos.
nor will there be any peace to console us.
El paso del dolor, ha de encontrarnos
The path of pain ought to find us
de rodillas en la vida,
in life on our knees (chained together),
frente a frente... y nada más.
face to face... and nothing more.
It's 05:30 a.m. here and I'm heading out for a little weekend adventure. Catch you all on Sunday night. Hope everybody has a great weekend! Hasta luego!
Saw that. Bet he doesn't slap her back.
Wonder how she will react to Caridad, Gaby? (Since she knew). uh oh is right!!!
She looked mad at Franco too.
Who can blame her?
Leticia
Wonder how she will react to Caridad, Gaby? (Since she knew). uh oh is right!!!
She looked mad at Franco too.
Who can blame her?
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 11:15:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 11:15:00 AM EST
Saw that. Bet he doesn't slap her back.
Wonder how she will react to Caridad, Gaby? (Since she knew). uh oh is right!!!
She looked mad at Franco too.
Leticia
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Wonder how she will react to Caridad, Gaby? (Since she knew). uh oh is right!!!
She looked mad at Franco too.
Leticia
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 11:15:00 AM EST
: Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 11:15:00 AM EST
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