Saturday, March 04, 2017

Vino el Amor #86, Friday, March 3, 2017: Vino el Date Night


Basically a lot of your favorite and not so favorite Vino el Amor couples go out on dates.  Some are more successful than others. And we get a HUGE fight at the end.

(Corrected a few things here and there after looking at the transcript. :))
  • David and Luciana are finishing up the last episode's makeout. Luciana stops them to worry that his kids won't accept her when he tells them about their romance.
  • Juan's got a plan. But first he nags Mark to get his feet off the furniture. OK, the grand master plan is that he will help out Gut with his political issues. It's a perfect time to get close to him since David has withdrawn his political support. Then Gut won't bother him again. 
If only we could say the same...
  • Susan, David and Luciana went and got coffee. Susan is far more tolerant of this dumb office PDA than I would be.
  • Seems like David got a bright idea to set up an office near his employees in Juan's old office. Then he can spend more time working near Luciana. So he and Luciana will share Juan's old office. David leaves the ladies to work on some analysis. Which means they start discussing Luciana's worries about David's family and Miguel. David interrupts this to ask Luciana to come with him somewhere.
  • Juan tells Mark to get his dang feet off the furniture again. Then he makes him get up and look at olive oil business numbers. They are looking good. Mark urges him to call Gut. Juan urges Mark to once again remove his feet from the furniture. And then he calls Gut.
  • Back in David's new office, Luciana and David appear to be actually working. Sort of. Gracie approaches.
Watch your office supplies, David!
  • Gracie did not realize David had moved into Juan's old office. He tells her it's to be closer to his employee(s). She asks his permission to take the kids into town. They bicker a little about these things and then David tells her that he and Luciana have a lot of work to do. OIC, says Gracie, "working" together.
I love Gracie's reaction to that.
  • He reminds Gracie that she was going to take his kids to town and wishes her a good time. She looks really excited, not, but thanks him and says see you later. David and Luciana crack up.
  • Fer, Bobby and Charlie pounce on Gracie when she gets to the house. She is really not feeling this chauffeur duty after all that's going on and tries to get out of it with a big guilt trip about how she's not feeling well and she's upset about life. The kids guilt trip her back plus Bobby threatens to tell Dad, and she ups the ante on the pity party, blaming David for making her feel upset. A few more rounds and Fer is understanding and Bobby apologizes. Gracie caves and agrees to take them.
I would've tried to get out of that too, to be honest.
  • Luciana and David are in the mansion home office now and apparently they did get a lot of work done. Words I never thought I'd type, for sure. Dave breaks out the glasses because it's happy hour! Even better, David points out that Sonia, Gracie, the kids and Lilian are all out for the night. They are alone. All alone. Completely alone. Suddenly, their theme song, Azucar Morena by Carla Morrison is blasting and the makeout session has commenced.

  • Azucar plays louder as it gets more intense. At one point, Luciana pushes David up against the wall. He doesn't break the kiss, but he leads them out the office door and to his bedroom.
  • Once in the bedroom, he does think to lock the door. But it's time to get down to business. The kissing is intense, Carla is singing Azucar, Azucar, and the shirts are coming off.  David lowers Luciana to the bed and the lovemaking commences.
  • Meanwhile, in Sonoma, Leon and Sonia on their date have run into Ramon and Marta on their date. Sonia calls Leon "lion cub" and he's mortified. Marta reminds her of something she already told her about Leon and he's mortified. Sonia goes on about her love and he's so embarrassed. Ramon is amused.
  • The lovemaking session continues and we hear voiceovers of the duo professing their great love as we watch them go at it. I watched the Mexican version and didn't think it was too explicit. It was actually kind of romantic and I don't usually say that about these two. I don't think Univision cut too much if anything.
If you know the name of the song that played during this scene, please post in comments.
  • On a far more G-rated date are Fer and Tano, who are ever growing to be the cutest couple by far on this show. He didn't care much for the movie, but he liked that she liked the movie. Aw! They start to profess their love but...
  • Bobby and Charlie barge in and catch them kissing. Tano makes them promise not to tell anyone. Charlie opens his trap and tells Fer and Tano that Bobby has a girlfriend too, named Summer. Bobby denies it all.
They don't buy Bobby's denial at all.
  • Gracie had been out shopping while the kids were doing their thing, and she's feeling done and ready to go home. So she breaks up the fun. VAMOS.
  • In the afterglow, David and Luciana sweet-talk each other. He promises to always make her happy. She's happy. They go in for round two. Better make it fast, the kids are on the way.
  • Not having such a great date night are Lilian and Gut. They bicker over her dumb remarks to the press. Then they see Ramon and Marta on their date. Lilian teases them. Gut suggests they go elsewhere but Lilian wants to stay. Gut tells Marta she's right, she belongs with a Mexican. Then Sonia comes out and runs into them. Uh oh. Lilian asks if she's out with Marta and Ramon.
  • Carito and Perla watch over the latest batch of illegally trafficked immigrants. Carito is hoping they will find a way to escape. Apparently two already did, and Perla takes that as being ungrateful for their services. The ladies have their usual debate about whether or not they should be involved with illegally trafficking immigrants.
  • Marta covers for Sonia. Leon has joined the group and Marta says that she, Ramon and Leon were out and ran into Sonia who was shopping for the household. Lilian sends Sonia to go back to work. Marta tells Gut that Lilian will cause him problems and maybe his job.
  • Perla tries to reassure Carito, who is very worried about her, and leaves. Carito starts handing out sandwiches to the men. One of them nicely thanks her and she asks him about the man who escaped. The man with the sandwich knows nothing. She advises him to look for opportunities to escape, as this is not a good place to be.
  • Erika and Miguel work late. He tells her about his dream to own his own vineyard. She believes it will happen but encourages him to travel and learn as much as he can about the business. He's going to work hard to make her young wine a success. She's charmed by his efforts to please her. It turns into a makeout session. 
  • Gracie is home but we don't get to see any discoveries as she finds David alone in his home office. He asks her how the night with the kids went and she says fine. Fer comes in and pretends like she went to the movies with Gracie. David says next time he should come, but Fer says nope. Fer tells David that Tia is the best and says good night. Gracie asks David how his night went. He says "perfect." Gracie then notices the half-emptied wine glasses. Doesn't seem like working was happening...
  • Back in employees quarters, Sonia and Marta bond and she's grateful for Marta's help. Marta is happy to see how happy she makes Leon. Sonia realizes she better get back to the mansion kitchen and says good night. Luciana joins the group and is noticeably perky. Leon says good night, as does Ramon, who gets a peck on the cheek from Marta. Left alone, a wise Marta tells Luciana she doesn't know that smile...
  • David tells Gracie he was "working" with Luciana. Gracie snarks about the wine. David continues that they were working on plans for work and for life. Gracie asks if he's into Luciana. David says, yes, indeed he is. Cue the implosion...
  • Marta knows exactly what happened. Luciana knows everything was perfect. She and Luciana have their usual conversation about Luciana's feelings and the need for her to be careful about them based on Marta's life experience. Luciana is way too happy to listen to this and decides to go back to work at this late hour.
  • Gracie asks if it's serious. David says it is. Gracie freaks out and gets upset. What about them? David explains that they are not a thing and it's completely different with Luciana and he loves her. "No puede ser!" Gracie tells him they are making a mistake. David says no, Luciana loves him too and they will fight for their love. Gracie is shook to her core.
  • Date night for Susan and Cesar. No-game Cesar suddenly has game and lets Susan know he's interested. They go in for a nice kiss.
  • Gracie mentions how difficult this will be for the kids. David says they are the most important for him. He plans to speak with them. Gracie says that Luciana will never make a better mother than she would for them. David says no one will ever replace Lisa as their mother but the kids will understand and accept his romance. Moreover, Gracie better not say anything to them or anyone else before he does. All Gracie can do is choke out a wish for his happiness.
  • Poor Cesar really has no game because what I thought was a nice kiss didn't do it for Susan and she's back to her "I don't know" and "I don't want a relationship" bit again. They agree to be just friends.
  • Fer and Bobby are asleep in the TV room. Must have been watching Cesar and Susan's date on TV. Anyway, David wakes them up. I guess his plan was to tell them about Luciana, but they are way too sleepy to hear it, and he puts them to bed instead. They'll talk tomorrow.
  • Mark for once makes things interesting and calls Susan while she's still on her now non-date, violating his restraining order. Why? He wants to see her again. She tells him, see ya in court, and hangs up. Cesar calls the police to report the violation of the restraining order.
  • Lilian confronts Sonia in the kitchen over being a traitor. She totally knows Sonia was out with Marta's son and threatens to make life difficult for both of them if the relationship continues.
  • Hey! Luciana is actually working! In the wine cellar, but she's interrupted by a furious Gracie who wants to let her know Luciana will not be with David. Luciana first tries to tell Gracie to mind her own business, but when that doesn't work, she states that she is indeed with David and no one will separate them. Gracie says it is her beeswax and she will do what she needs to do make sure she gets what Gracie wants, understand? 
  • Luciana and Gracie's confrontation continues: Luciana says Gracie's threats won't work. Luciana is completely with David and nothing will separate them. Gracie says over her dead body! Luciana brings up the kids and asks if she doesn't want the kids to be in a happy family. She says she knows Gracie just pretends to like the kids in order to sleep with David and fills their head with garbage. Gracie insists she's the one for David and Luciana will never make him happy. Luciana raises her voice to say she's with David, and David gets to decide who he's with, whether Gracie likes it or not! Gracie says she's part of the family and Luciana is not. Luciana bluntly tells her, "David doesn't love you." They soap stare at each other.
  • Susan is a giant mess after Mark's call and Cesar can't calm her down. They need to go to the police station, but Susan decides she doesn't want to go to the police, she wants to go to Canada. Cesar tries to reason with her, but Susan somehow lumps all men in the same category as Mark and leaves abruptly. Ugh.
  • Gracie keeps insisting that she and David are end game, and Luciana tells her that's not happening. Gracie blames Luciana for her and David not being together. She knew David loved her when he kissed her. Luciana tells her to stop fantasizing, and Gracie takes offense and tells her to shut up. Luciana says that David loves her for who she is, and Gracie needs to gain some dignity and give it up. Gracie screeches at her to shut up and starts to hit her, but Luciana deflects the punch, and being Luciana, she's basically ready to physically fight. Luciana tells her one more time that David is not interested in Gracie as a woman, or a business partner or anything else. The only reason Gracie is still around at all is because she is good with Fer.  Gracie mouths off one last time to tell Luciana that she'll never be with David because she's a bitch, and Luciana smacks her good and hard. Gracie gathers herself for a second and then screeches a last insult and threat at Luciana - she will make sure the kids hate David and Luciana - and leaves. Luciana slams her palms down on the countertop, clearly worried and frustrated by that confrontation.

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dy, I just read your excellent El Color recap and I see you did this as well. Did you get any sleep? El Color must have been so exhausting, I don't know how you managed to create another exceptional recap for Vino, and yet you did. You are amazing!

Too many favorites to list them all but "Juan's got a plan. But first he nags Mark to get his feet off the furniture", "Susan is far more tolerant of this dumb office PDA than I would be" and "Apparently they did get a lot of work done. Words I never thought I'd type, for sure" were great.

I watch TN's for romance, the promise of and realization of passion and a love between a couple that remains steadfast and true. The journey that increases the tension and the expectation is part of the process. Yet, we have watched 86 episodes and have seen our main couple kiss but a few precious times. Going from a few exploratory kisses to coming together just seemed to shortchange things a bit.

I'm far more invested in Fer and Tano (I'm eye rolling as I write this). Sad but true.

In reality, Gracie has been aiding and abetting Fer's deception in dating Tano far more than Lucia. But when it all comes out, it will be Lucia that will be blamed. Graciela will surely fan that fire.

As Susan isn't into Cesar, and he is clearly into her, he has to either accept he's permanently in the friend zone or they need to stop spending so much time together so he can find someone who deserves him. I'm only hoping Ramon has a better chance with Marta.

That said, I really have no interest in either Brian or Lili or Marta (as far as her relationship with Brian). I wish this story would end.

We knew Mark wouldn't stay away from Susan...I wonder when his being Juan's partner will be revealed to David?

Gracie has fully revealed herself to Lucia. Family or not, it's time for David to send her and mama packing.

dy, thank you for your time and dedication! It is so appreciated.

Diana
 

Awesome dy I like it a lot, thanks.

"Better make it fast, the kids are on the way"

"They soap stare at each other"

Diana, I'm with you the climax was anti climatic for me. It was like they last minute thought, hey lets head to downtown San Francisco after looping the place for hours, but stopped suddenly at a motel 6.

What could ever go wrong telling Graciela before his children?

It's painful to watch Cesar and Ramon.

I almost enjoyed the Graciela/Luciana fight as much as Juan/David. Thankfully its not over, goodie, goodie. It was awesome after Luciana slapped Graciela hard and she slowly straightened her hair, calmly looked at Luciana before growing shrill again. What an incredible character portrayal by KDR.

Wow, Carito feeds them and encouraging them to flee. Ballsy
 

Diana: You might get your wish on the Gutierrez/Marta/Lillian triangle.

Dy77: David deflowers Luciana :)

Looks like Bobby & FerBrat will be getting more siblings in the future :)

Kirby: No-Game Cesar & Susan finally making out!
 

Thanks, dy77. Wow, your second recap of the morning! I hope the lightness of Vino last night was a break from the dark heaviness over there on Color. Gracie asks if he's into Luciana. David says, yes, indeed he is. Cue the implosion... - ha!

So David and Luciana did the deed. I guess Luciana was not a virgin like I thought cause she didn't seem at all nervous.

I did enjoy the Luciana-Graciela showdown. Yikes, Graciela is so agitated, a step away from grabbing a rock.
 

hi everyone. Happy weekend. . Sunny, clear, and blueskied here but cold and windy here

Thanks so much in advance , dy77. I am looking forward to reading your recap after I make myself do some chores..and Lioncub is nowhere around and Hubba is working in the office in taxes, so ..just me.

However, I have to do some stream of consciousness impressions.

Dates from hell..geez .Stay home .

Juan and Marked are like the odd couple with fastidious JUan nagging at grimy Marked to get his feet off the coffeetable. #wearethebadguys

And Cesar cannot seize her. #timetomoveon #tooniceforsoosan

Rolling around in the sheets with open mouths that sometimes actually made contact ..awkward. well, at least, Dave did not wear a vest to bed . #thisispassionfolks



Disgrace is finally off ..the ...chain. YIKES She somehow made her beautiful, delicate face look very SCARY UGLY. And. ... The SLAP. That will not go unpunished. #girlfightclub
 

Susanlynn - Your hashtags crack me up, especially #wearethebadguys. I have to fess up to enjoying the Juan and Skidmark odd couple show.
 

Reading the recap..right now. "Watch your office supplies, David ." HA #cut-it-out
 

Thank you DY for that superb recap. We are finally getting a few episodes we can sink our 'claws' into. MEOW

DisGracie made a veiled threat to Luci last night (for the patio's benefit) when she told her "You don have any idea what I am capable of." loosely translated. #gotarockwithyourname

Luci is sexier whacked out on crack. P&P Assmore

Unless SiezeHer just wants a chick friend, it is time to start weaning SooSanSoScared. If there is not a Noun-Verb in it for him, he should be G O N E. Nice guys finish last and get NoNookie.

Steve: One furtive begrudging kiss that she actually would have taken back if that were possible is not making out, it is making a fool of him. Like the sign on a boat "Ass / Gas, nobody rides free.
 

Gracias, dy77. Especially since you were doing double duty.

The best things in this episode:

-- David remembering to lock the door. Here's a song for him and Luciana.

-- Marta warning Brian that Lillian is poison... in front of her

-- The Confrontation. #futurecatfight

The conversation between Luciana and Marta obviously pointed to the question I had about L&D, which was whether he remembered to use protection. Based on what we know and surmise about Luciana's past experience I'm going with She was a virgin but she is fearless.

Whether David should have told the kids first or Gracie? I don't know which would have been worse. As it is Gracie will probably try to poison them before breakfast but we also know that if David had told the kids first FerBrat would have gone running to DisGrace in a New York minute after that conversation.

SkidMark is getting on Juan's nerves and that will build up. I'm thinking these two will take each other out.
 

Jay and the Americans? Holy Guacamole ! No scratch that

Leaping Lizards


 

Urban..ah..We just saw Jay and the Americans in concert a few weeks ago, and they still sound great.

I like the way that Lilian has become the social director for everybody in Sonoma. #datingczar

Dy77..I loved all your photos, especially the first one of Dave grinning and holding the vino glasses and bottle. The look on his face reminds me of the looks on the faces of guys in all those prom photos out there. His expression says, "Wow..this might actually happen." How long ago did Lisa die? Dave , you are back ! Times 2. #seewhatcanhappenifyoudontwearavest Best wishes, and I hope that it was good for you both, but I was a little underwhelmed. Well, you were under a deadline. How long is a movie? However, you did lock the door. Point for reason. Okay, so is Luci pregnant? #yesitcanhappenthefirsttime and Luci, you have to work on that glass face of yours. #everybodyknowsnow Just wait until Miguel sees you.#ohnoes

I am enjoying watching Disgrace spiraling out of control. You captured some great expressions on her tiny face. #ohcrapno I agree with you, dy77, and for the first time with Disgrace about not wanting to chauffer those kids. #beentheredonethat
 

David's San Francisco plans for last night were nearly derailed. Soon as Susan and Luciana were alone for a second Susan started in about Miguel and he may not reclaim Luciana someday as planed. That got Luciana's attention and she quickly asked how so but David returned and off they went. Will she care now she slept with David?
 

tofie, thank your for that very important tidbit about Susan's spill regarding Miguel. I totally missed that (not that I would have understood even if I were paying careful attention).

Are the writers just trying to keep us thinking there is some possibility Luci and Miguel might reunite or is it more than that? I have no idea but I think there is unfinished business between the two.

Soon as Susan and Luciana were alone for a second Susan started in about Miguel and he may not reclaim Luciana someday as planed. That got Luciana's attention and she quickly asked how so but David returned and off they went. Will she care now she slept with David?

Susanlynn, Kirby and Niecie, you were cracking me up with your respective #tooniceforsoosan, "Nice guys finish last and get NoNookie" and "Yikes, Graciela is so agitated, a step away from grabbing a rock".

Urban, I think David should have told the kids first. But. Who knew it would move from 0 to 60, from chaste kisses to motel 6 (credit tofie) in seconds?

Diana
 

Dy great job, those back to back recaps are tough, I know so hats off to you for doing this one justice as well!

Ooooh weeee! My David and Lucia finally! I was losing hope that they were ever going to be together as a couple and even do the deed. They did not disappoint either. GS and IB are so pretty together and I know the age difference can be sticky in tn's but I personally love that they are not traditional. I think older men are attractive to a lot of younger girls. Dave going in for seconds, the man has been starving ya'll. He was hungry for some Lucia. ;-)

DisGrace is about to lose her damn mind over this. The twitching and crazy eyes! I feel another rock in her future.

I still don't like Smuguel but he and Erika are cute. I vote he stay with her..permanently!

Sonia and Leon are so adorable. I love her jealousy!

Wtf is Gutierrez still hanging out with Lilian? This man loves punishment or am I missing something here?

Am I wrong for still rooting for Gut and Marta to work past their issues?

I like Ramon, but I just don't see any chemistry between him and Marta and I don't like when TN's force couples because they think everyone must be paired up. If Marta hasn't fallen for Ramon yet, why would she now? I hate forced couples.

Fer and Tano are super cute. He really brings out the best in her. I hope when she learns of David and Lucia, that Tano can talk her down and help her realize that this is a good thing. For sure DisGrace will be doing a head trip on her.
 

But who could resist that smile and a bottle of wine from your own vineyard? Luci couldn't.

I was hoping for DisGrace to get home and catch them just straightening up his (Lisa's) bedsheets.

Woulda made Chernobyl look like a firecracker. Her hair would burst into flames.
 

Hateful little wench that she is, DisGrace is by far the most interesting one in the show now. In the past when she had her cool calm collected Real Estate chick personna I hated her, but now like Delilah pointed out, the crazy eyes and twitching, she is more fun than a barrel of monkeys. I just hope she has a sprained wrist when she blows a head gasket because it will be Dy-No-Mite! #Norockwillbesafe as Sue would say.
 

Thank you so much DY77! You deserve a medal for doing two novela recaps in one night! Or at least someone should send you flowers or chocolate or something. :) Read your ECDLP recap and it was awesome and this one is awesome too, we even had some good action in this one to write about.

I was waiting for a full on cat fight between Luciana and DisGrace. I just wanted to see that stupid little porcelain face with a black eye. ;) A friend was watching with me and we kept trying to tell David to tell DisGrace, "None of your damn business!" after all her questions. It's time for him to tell her "Vete" and "largate!"

This episode really had DisGrace looking mentally disturbed with these meltdowns she's been having. Oh my! She's had some really bad days!
 

Thanks, DY! I'm with Delilah, WHOO HOOO!!! "Let's get it on. . . aw, baby, let's get it on!....Shugah!" And they even played a song with "shugah" in it! Hell, yeah, my man has been loved starved and dealing with back-stabbing friend, psycho-killer sister in law and her momma, I think the pacing was fine. David has gotten screwed from the beginning of this show, I'm glad he finally got screwed in a way he liked! With all these crazy-assed people on his back all the time, Dave didn't have time to go to San Fransisco. The house was empty for the first time in what, EVER, virgin or not, Luci was willing, YAH BABY!

I LOVED his happy/goofy grin when crazy Gracie confronted him in the study. Luci had a similar contented and radiant smile when she came bounding down the stairs at the employee's casa. Both Gracie and Marta knew what had gone down.

Loved the fight. Yah, Kimberly dos Ramos is KILLING this role! I can't wait to see her in something else. I wonder if she'd be as electric playing a goody two shoes. She'd be good as a leading lady with spunk, claws and fiery eyes able to take on all her rivals for the galan.

Anywho, the fight was everything. DisGracie has come unglued! Loved all the rock comments. David should seriously be afraid of her. She has declared war because in her alternate, wacko world, David belongs to her, dammit, she killed his wife to win him and she's not about to walk away from her prize.

Thanks again, DY!
 

Lila! That post was everything and then some. Oh yeah..it was all about the " Shugah!" and lots of it. Lawdy..I'm dying from laughter. Thank you for that.


 

Delilah, I been waiting for this! I'm watching two novelas and ain't hardly no lovin' in either one. And Outlander did not come on ANY of my STARZ channels!

;D

 

My advice to Luciana right now would be to always have her cell phone ready to record DisGrace's meltdowns. David has to see this.

DisGrace saw the beginning of ECDLP; Luciana needs to watch MdN.
 

Urban, that is what I was thinking. Even if she didn't have the camera pointed toward DisGrace, just the audio should be pretty damning. If David could only see the real DisGrace as he finally did NoJuan.

Just hit the record button, then when MsMelt gets close, just lay it down as though you are finished with it and she has your attention now.

They don't have surveillance cameras in there? California? High Zoot winery? Half a million dollars worth of Stainless Steel vats? No Harbor Freight nearby?
 

Lila said: " EVER, virgin or not, Luci was willing, YAH BABY!"
? ? ? ? ?

When I graduated from college there was only one and I think just nobody would claim the deed !.
 

Kirby, I think David and Luci are bound together now but it's going to be exciting seeing Grace trying to tear them apart from sheer force of her crazy will. Luci'd better tell Dave right away how Grace exploded in her face!

 

Lila there is not one (Believable) reason for Luci not to tell David exactly what DisGrace said and did.

He might even believe her NOW. He'd better, 'cause she has a few more secrets he may find hard to believe later on.

Now that he, David, has discovered what a lying conniving scumbag NoJuan is, will he believe him when NoJuan rats out DisGrace and Lil?
 

OT..Lila..sorry that your Starz did not show season one of Outlander. I am watching both seasons again . Target has the dvds. If you like the books, I think you would like the TV series. It is basically an 18th century Scottish telenovela. Great escapism. Lovely galan.


Disgrace is a ticking time bomb. She looked like she had finally snapped. She gets her sister out of her way, and then Luci steps in to steal her hombre. Disgrace is not having it. If I were Luci, I would be watching Disgrace and not turning my back on her.
 

Absolutely! Dave and Luci have pledged to fight together for their love. They'd better install some cameras and press the cell phones into service. Remember how Dave and Luci exchanged amused smirks when Gracie came into the office and snickered to each other after she left. They'd better put that shit on ice: Grace is girding up her loins for the fight of her life. I think she's foreshadowed her end by saying Luci would have Dave over her dead body. Porcelain doll? She's on her way to becoming one of a different sort!

OT -- I may end up buying it, unless I can find it in the library. Thanks, Susanlynn!
 

OT..Lila..If you want a tiny taste, google Killing time Connie Verbak outlander. She is a very funny lady who did a few recaps and captioned screencaps of every episode of the two seasons. Take a peek. She is as witty and funny as our caraycaray recappers.
 

thanks DY the recaps enhance this show. It is fun to watch the actors and scenery but the story line and accents make me crazy.

I appreciate how this show has often incorporated current technology realistically, ie the use of Skype/FaceTime, social media benefits and pitfalls, dead batteries and the like. Given Luci's age her phone would be in her pocket or on the table readily accessible to record her encounters with Grace. (I loved how Alex filmed the threat by Fer's dad in AQNMD recently).

I'm an Outlander fan too, I dropped the cable tier carrying STARZ because of back catalog availability issues and subscribe through Amazon Prime which gives you all the seasons. HBO Go has more than my on demand service.

Rena UVA School of Commerce 1981 (I was tickled DY when you mentioned your school colors in another recap)
 

Welcome, Rena! Hey, thanks for the tip on Outlander at Amazon Prime! So, you watch AQNMD. Please stop by the patio and join in!

Susanlynn, thanks for that info on Outlander recaps. I hope she sticks to the no-spoiler rule!
 

OT..Rena.Hi there ,fellow Outlander fan. A SCottish telenovela , right? Season three will be aired in September. Have you read any of the books in the series?


Have you been watching Vino el Amor since the beginning?
 

Dy77..I forgot to tell you how much I loved the title. Good one.
 

OT..Lila, did you Google "Connie Verbak killing time"? If you have not finished Dragonfly , be careful because she did those recaps and captioned screencaps for both season one and two. Carlos used to do funny captioned screencaps in his recaps for CI. It is the only reason that I kept watching that weirdo show. I have not seen Carlos here in a long time. I hope that he is okay.
 

OT--Phew! Hey, Susanlynn! Just got back from a rare Sunday afternoon grocery store outing. No, haven't googled it yet. I'm kinda scared, though, of running into spoilers. I'm on Chapter 21, page 363 of Dragonfly.


 

OT..Lila ..Only look at season one then. Stop before season two starts. Connie recaps one episode at a time just like here at Carey. She is very funny, and you can get a look at the actors. P.s. I avoid groceryshopping as long as I can. Then, when we have to, hubba and I both take a cart and speed shop. I am back from a walk and watching the wedding episode right now.
 

Thanks, Susanlynn! :D
 

dy, thank you for this second recap, i read your El Color recap too, you are just a dynamite.

We all know by TN rules, the one a virgin has sex with is the one she ends up with. So there you go, it's now destiny that Luciana and David will be together at the end.

I know that Ramon is milktoast, but I personally think he's a really handsome guy, and I would love to see him with Marta together at the end.

I also really like to hear these latin actors speaking English. It's so fun to hear who has a strong accent, who has a weak accent. The only one so far with no accent is Juan. He should have had the role of Gutierrez.

An aside, I've had enough wine tonight to be brave enough to say this, but I really don't like all the off-topic Outlander discussion done in these comment threads. I know you're all saying 'off topic', but that doesn't change the fact that it really doesn't belong on these threads. Maybe you could start a Blogspot website devoted to Outlander? (ok, flame me now, I expect it).
 

Ramon is nice, but he is completely boring. Any estrogen soaked woman would walk all over him or get bored and leave/cheat on him in short order.

You girls even admit that little mousey Leon was more sexy when he laid down the law to Ms Sonia that being a secret secret crush was a NOGO.

I still think we have not seen the last of Marta's secrets, Ramon may be too good for her.

OT I feel better now that I'm not alone sitting here outside the Principal's Office. :-)
.pssstt..........girls, want some of my Doritos?
 

Hi, Cathyx!

No flame whatsoever, honey! I'm a main Outlander discussant and I respect your opinion and even agree with it. Please accept my apology and let's apply that across the board to all "off topic" subjects.

;D
 

Hahaha! Yah, Kirby, I'll have some Doritos!

Well, in terms of the one who takes the cherry gets the prize, we know Marta and Lillian ain't got nothin' to do with THAT contest. I wonder what the rule says about who gets the man when he sleeps with two characters who can't even remember the blush of the first time? Marta's using Ramon. She's still got the hots, love, or whatever you call it, for Gut-man.

I wish the LilianGut/Marta/Ramon triangle would go away: let's see what happens with Fer and Tano and, more importantly, the war between Rockstar DisGracie, Luci and Dave!
 

*Duh, quadrangle!
 

Yup. I can't see what LilMarGutRam has to do with anything in the interesting story. Filler/favor/job? I dunno.
LMGR usually means Kitchen/Bathroom break or check my Ebay bids.

What I am still watching for is to see SkidMark and NoJuan go down and DisGrace go completely batshit cray. cray

tonight........
 

I still don't hate the LMGR polygon of doom (almost exclusively due to Azela Robinson and Cynthia Klitbo at this point), but I absolutely get that it's a sort of circular holding pattern of...not nothing, but not very much either. Ramon finally warming Marta up to him is welcome, but it's far and away the lowest-key quasi-relationship on the show--and since it's tied to Lilian and Magic Brian, there's still that air of "Ugh, here we go..." tied to it. We're, or at least I'm, still stuck waiting for the big reveal of all the details of Marta and Lilian's feud over dead Fernando...which is probably the most circular thing on the show.

But still-considering this was the episode where David and Luciana finally made up for far too much lost time and got it on, the actual sexing and just about the rest of the damn episode was upstaged singlehandedly by Kimberly Dos Ramos's face. Graciela's head almost literally visibly short-circuited when she found out that David and Luciana were a thing, let alone when she went bull-charging after Luci later, and it was glorious.

On the far lighter side: I'm apparently the one person amused by the now running gag of Mark putting his feet up on Juan's coffee table, right? :)
 

Thank you everyone! The cool thing about Vino if there is one is that there's a Facebook group that has secret, non-virus-laden links to most of the episodes. So you can cheat and do the recaps in advance if there's a busy week. (So it was doable to do two although I'm glad my days of two shows are done for now.)

Rena, I'm CLAS '86 - Wahoowa!

Bill - the bit about Mark and Juan and the furniture cracks me up. I wonder if the actors adlibbed that at first and it became a thing. I will put that on my "to screencap" list.

Kirby, I agree with you about Ramon, he's nice but he's dull. Marta strikes me as someone who needs a little excitement. Now whether that's good for her, is another story.
 

Bill, the furniture thing was a fresh surprise! I was about to FF>> when Juan said that and it cracked me up. I didn't think I could find anything he did funny after what he did to David but that was literally a breath of fresh air coming as it did in an interaction with the stinky skidmark!

Hey, guys! What happened to Juan's little secret box of doom?
 

Thank you dy77! Wow! You got the sex episode!!

Not the best love scene I've ever seen, but not the worst either. (That would be PEAM.)

I'm wondering if Juan might end up killing Mark over having his feet on the coffee table.

I'd love to know what Soo-san was going to tell Luci about Miguel before Dave showed up and whisked Luci away. Where is Soo-san now? I hope she didn't go to Canada!

Delilah, for what it's worth, I'd like to see Gut and Marta together too, inasmuch as I care about those two. I'm not sure why they should be together, really, nor how it could be possible, but I really really want Lilian to lose. And I want Ramon to find a more deserving woman.
 

Hey we have David and Luc, right?
And Sonia and Lion Cub, RIGHT?
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........................................

Maybe Ramon and Carita?
 

And in a study hall kind of way, I still think Marta and Lillian could work.

They get along about as well as MY parents did !
 

Ramon and Carita! Ewww, no! That has a pervert stepdad vibe!

Poor Carita may be going to join her cousin, I fear. :(
 

"ita! Ewww, no! That has a per
'

Spicey ! !
 

I think Carito's days are numbered. As recently as last week I thought Perla would get killed soon, but now with Carito still involved with the immigrants (encouraging them to run away) I think Carito is in more danger.
 

I think any guy a fool that wants Marta. She eats "nice" guys for a snack. Beware the tent dress and cinder block shoes of this maneater.

Betcha Susan was going to tell Luciana that Miguel was gushing a bit over Erika. Had she been successful Luciana would have run to see what's up instead of in the sack with Dave.
 

Oooh, I bet you're right, Tofie. Tsk tsk, Soosan. Luci doesn't need to know about Miguel and Erika. Anyway, she should find out on her own soon enough since she never misses an opportunity or excuse to go see him.
 

OT..Cathyx, I just got home from work and read your comment. Ouch. So sorry. Please accept my apology. I have hung out here since before it was Caraycaray, about 8 or 9 years, and back in the day, we often became friendly and went off topic exchanging recipes or taking about songs, trips, experiences, favorite books ,movies,and running jokes. I consider myself spanked and will go to my room for awhile.;-)

OT..Kirby, I KNEW that you would comment on this. Thanks for the trip down memory lane and reminding me of the guys who used to tease me for getting caught talking in class. And yes, I could use some Doritas.

OT..Lila, you and I would never be allowed to sit next to each other in study hall.
 

Only reason Miguel told Susan (and Cesar) was for it to get back to Luciana and it nearly did. David better hope Miguel moves on for that will make Luciana really fight to be with him. However, if she can convince Miguel there is hope she can cut and run if it becomes too difficult.
 

Ha ha ha! Susanlynn, I know I've read many a recipe or tidbit about a trip, and many memories evoked by our little stories so I don't know if that's the difference in OT topics: if it has to be something related to the story, or Latin culture, language learning, etc., perhaps that not verboten. But I can see where discussing an entirely different soap from an entirely different culture could be annoying. Hey. I'm cool. Life's too short to get my knickers in a bunch. Everybody ought to feel comfortable and welcome on the patio and I never want to do anything to take away from that.

;)
 

Naughty girls. :-)
 

Lila: I laughed at Graciela's "Working Together" description regarding Luciana & David ROFLOL.


 

Delilah: Gutierrez is addicted to Lillian just like Yago was addicted to SARA!
 

Steve wait till DisGrace finds Luci's underwear in the Lisa Memorial Shrine Bedroom.

She will be like in the cartoons with flames shooting out of her ears.

And Luci will be like, "I know you Bitch, Don't Cock your Rock at me!"



I think I could write a Limerick on that one.

kj
 

What is really scrambling DisGrace's yolks is that she had schemed all along on the assumption that she need only worry about Luci getting to David. If she could best Luci at the 'Get David' game she won.

Now she is seeing that not only does she have that (losing) war going on, but another major flare up is that David is into Luci, another equally large problem she had not anticipated. Like throwing everything you have into fighting the Russians off at New York, only to get wind that they are halfway across California too.

You have to be a little unstable to Rock Cock your sister to get her man to begin with, on top of all the other instability we have seen. I am looking forward to see how Kimy2Ram pulls this off. She will make the perfect crazy TN chick, beautiful, with those crazy eyes. I'd be hiding under the bed.
 

I forgot, What ever happened to Sara in Yago?
 

Her (ex-)husband shot her and she died.
 

Dy77, this was earthquaky.Gracie is
Going all out nuts. If she'd had a rock in her hand there may have been a rock Concert on lhcy's head. Not. Luciana Would whip up on her craziass. This is About to get nasty crazy. And fer is Gonna to be used tho the hilt. With her annoying self. She's not a child She should see or get a feeling that Tia is not right. But whoever said Tia Is gonna spend it so Lucy gets blamed About fer & tano, that's comin. And it Will be nasty,you watch. Just seeing Fer when shes mad, she can be pretty Nasty. She got that nasty gene from tiacrazie & nasty granny. Put on your Armor David.
Susan....get some backbone. And Stop letting that lowlife make Urun scared.
There are some women that would learn to fight,to be able to beat the crap outta That pile of pigsh*t. And puttin
A country between you won't help.He'll
Follow her. As Barney says "nip it in the bud". I think once she's calm and
Able to see Cesar as a good man she
May be able to wake up his inner hot springs of passion. It could happen.?

Juan and Mark are two snots that need to be blown away. Gut better watch his
Back,his front,side. He should just not worry about marta or lil, and just
Concentrate on gettin those imagration
Crooks(juan&mark)alias dumb&dumber.Its
Like lil is leading gut by the manpart He really needs to man up and kick lil
To to the curve. He's so wimpy. Build
Him up or get rid of him. Even if he don't get back with marta, don't let him be whipped by lillian.

Thanks dy77.

 

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