Saturday, March 18, 2017
Vino el Amor #96 – Friday 3/17/2017: Water, Water, Everywhere Else, But Not a Drop for Lil
The review starts with Dr. Evil Anderson trying to convince David he’s at fault for Fer’s suicide attempt. It includes Juan and Mark plotting in English; Luci and Leon discussing Mamá’s betrayal, and Marta and Lilian’s confrontation in the kitchen.
Today – (All you’ve got is me)
Dr. Evil and Fer – Fer is telling the doc that she feels worse now that she realized her affection for her nana was misplaced because of what she did with Fer’s own granddaddy. Dr. Evil jumps up, very concerned that she might try to off herself again. Fer insists that she’s almost positively sure she didn’t want to commit suicide, she only wanted to feel better. Dr. Evil (with $$$$ dancing in his head) assures her that her motives are hidden deep inside her and that’s what he’s there for. Fer says, juarever. She is going to concentrate on defending her feelings for her aunt, her grandmother and for, sigh, Tano, un tipazo.
Marta and Lil – The two continue their argument in the kitchen. Marta says she’s no longer afraid of Lil’s threats. Since she lost the love of Fer and her children, there’s nothing to hold her back, so beware, Lil. Marta sneers that the Patron still prefers her to Lil to care for the children. Lil answers back that she’ll figure out a way to get close to the grandchildren and if Marta had any dignity, she would leave. Lil gloats that she didn’t get Fernando nor Gut. Marta has had enough and hands Lil a drippy ladle and tells her here, if she wants to be a good grandmother, finish the meal. Marta stalks out. Yikes, Lil holds the ladle away from her as if it were a poisonous snake and yells for Sonia, who has the bad luck to be within earshot of the battlefield.
Sonia and Fer – Sonia brings back the notebook she found in the trash that Fer was to write down her innermost jottings. Fer says she threw it away because it was Luci that gave it to her. Wisely, Sonia tells her the value of things is not in where they come from, but of what use they are. She encourages Fer to pour her heart out in her writings. She leaves the notebook for Fer to think about it. If she still decides she doesn’t want it, so be it.
I laughed out loud when Marta handed the ladle to Lillian and told her to finish cooking and Lillian acted like it was the most disgusting thing in the world. Brilliant move and brilliantly played by both actresses. You'd think that Marta meant for Lillian to change a diaper.
The second shrink knows something is fishy and FerBrat is running true to form. She would have no way to know this but the reactions of Dr Evil are completely wrong and totally unprofessional.
UA: FerBratZilla ROFLOL!
Marta shoving that ladle at Lilian was wonderful. Here do some grandma stuff..Make a meal.
Also, retirement??? How do you retire when you've never worked?
Juan will be Perla's undoing. You got what you wanted , Perla.
I laughed when ERica and Miguel were entertaining guests in that all-purpose space. When Cesar and Soosan (Soosan?)sat down on that sofa, I thought , "Oh..If you only knew....") As a beau's mother used to say, "Gracious living...Good gracious!!!!"
I've survived raising two girls through the teen years and teaching scores of them , but I don't know what I would do with Ferzilla.
I liked DisGracie subtle sequined tank top ..for breakfast.
I liked the line about Miguel and Leon stroking and chatting about MArta..Ew.
Of course DisGrace is one step ahead of Cesa,r Dr. GoodShrink, David, Luci. etc----. who is surprised.?
Tano? If you are not milking the cow, and she tries to gore you approximately every other time you are near her, WTF is in it for you.? Trade up a notch and go downtown and find a cute crack ho. Fercrat.
The Lancome' chick for sure has dropped by to see Lilly and Perly.
I am just surprised at these people. There is NoJuans engineered disaster and it is supposed to be assholes and elbows to save their very existence, right? All hands on deck, if you all help the captain we might save our sinking ship,right? Of course except for DisGrace and Lilly. AND Leon? While all these pipes, and calculations and bucket brigade is going on, Leon is having a romantic stroll downtown with the newly grownup shirted Miggy. Lollygaging along with not a hurry in the world.
On a brighter note, David is getting a clue about Dr Evil too. He knows something just doesn't add up.
I always had a rule that worked really well.
"If something just doesn't make sense, It probably doesn't ---make sense."
Simple, easy to understand, and about 98% accuracy record.
"Lil holds the ladle away from her as if it were a poisonous snake"
Did Lilian and Graciela unpack?
David declares his intent, his love and trust in Luciana over and over again and she gives him nothing. No emotion, no words only a blank stare like she has diarrhea and may need to run to the toilet any second leaving David still talking to the space she just vacated. David is still way more into her and has hung his future on a girl that has no passion for anything. No, I take that back. She has vineyard plans with Miguel that got her worked up.
This is the third time I've seen Sofia Castro in TN's and she has this type character down but so down I can't watch her without tasting bile.
Surely Cesar knows Dr Phil, why didn't he call him and get Fernanda on the show?
I am sure FerBrat is a charming little sweetheart,in real life Tofie, given the way even the Latin Press has crucified her over comments about those less fortunate than her. Maybe in the roles she plays she doesn't have to act too hard?
"Miguel and Erika are entertaining them in their office/living room/dining room/bedroom" was my favorite of many.
"She grumbles that life is unfair, everything is stacked against her plans for retirement". Ummm, perhaps I've misunderstood all these years. In order to retire, don't you actually have to work??
Like everyone else, the hand off of the ladle was the night's best moment. As you noted UA, the actresses added extra dimension to the scenes. Both of these women deserved so much better parts but we appreciate everything they are bringing to their respective roles.
How frustrating that Graciela was able to make her impeccably timed speech to Fer to ruin her meeting with the other doctor. I hope he doesn't give up. At least we know David isn't comfortable with Dr. Evil...
It didn't seem as though Leon told Miguel Luci and David broke up. Am I wrong? I just thought if he had, Miguel would have been over there like a shot.
Did Marta really expect the ice to thaw quickly? She is going to need a lot of time for her children to forgive her.
"He’s going to fight for her, for the vineyard, for their dream. [Of course this is just to let everyone on the Patio know they haven’t really broken up.]". Whew!! There is hope.
I believe Mark's prophecy that Perla would be the ruination of Juan is true. However, her telling Miguel Mark is the true culprit may well be the beginning of his downfall as well.
Thank you for the fantastic recap Anita.
What Lillian fails to understand here is that she can't suddenly become the grandmother Fernanda and Bobby want after all those years of virtually ignoring them. This just can't happen. Bobby is still not inclined to trust her and I don't think she will be able to change his mind.
FerBrat will need an army of shrinks when she finds out what DisGrace has done to her, that she killed her mother, and what DisGrace and Lillian really think of her.
BillC--You and everybody else here are waiting for the explosion. I think we mention it after ever episode.
Hey, Kirby--How murderous do you think Fer's rage could get? We've never seen her out practicing rock throwing, so my thoughts are that she's going to go into a deep depression, which David knows all about. What's next? Can Tano save her? Tano needs to save himself from years of verbal abuse.
Susanlynn--Stroking works. Didn't you see Miggy's arm around Leo's shoulders as they walked and chatted?
Diana--Always the wise one. Of course you can't retire if you've never worked. Well, you have to admit, she's worked hard to maintain a standard of living above which she might never have had on her own.
Urban--Good one, retiring from being a bitch. Bobby has seen through Lil's disdain and even revulsion for her grandchildren. There's no fooling him. Fer's attachment to DisGracie is a burden because abuela is part of the package. It's DG that has been pushing and pushing for Lil to make nice with the grands. Lil just doesn't know how. Even Sonia has more mothering instinct than Lil.
Sadly, there is plenty of time for Tia and Abuela to whip up more mayhem, before The Boda--and there has to be one. We haven't hung on to this story for nothing.
Lil and Marta sure strutted their stuff last night. But so did Bobby. I think that is what gave Dahvid the courage to go to Luci and tell her it's not over until El FIN. Please, Miguel, STAY on your own side of the fence. The grass is no longer green at Bodega LA.
tofie--thinking back on the two scenes--I saw what you saw. There was so little emotion on Luci's face when David hinted that this is not over, it makes one wonder what's going on with her. Does she really want to get that stallion back that's already been ridden by a new owner or stick to the pony she has in her stable eating out of her hand. Do the writers and directors know what they are doing? If they want to keep us in suspense (a la Querida Enemiga) they are failing. They are greatly frustrating us.
So, Fronteras wine might win the gold over Vino el Amor because VEA isn't ready? It should win because it's a BETTER wine. This just looks like saving face to me. But do I really care? Naw.
Will check back later. Have to go read La Piloto recap, then go back and watch it again. (It's so good I had to watch the episode after I posted Vino in the wee hours of the morning.) I can't understand half of what they say and they say it too fast. I depend on Alfredo and Jardinera to figure it out for me.
If she could save only one between David and Miguel she saves Miguel every time. Someone needs to smack David awake.
Kirby, you make a good point about graduating from Brat to Bitch. However, she still acts like she's 12 instead of 18. No, make that 8 instead of 18.
Hook up with Erika and merge the two Vineyards? as she will be back on the market as soon as Ms. Flake snatches Miggs back.
I wonder whether this series is an acid test for Irina Baeva. She played evil well and I know that it's usually more fun to do that. Or is it that she can't deal with getting romantic with someone much older than she is? Those of you who watched PyP will remember that they never showed her boinking Assmore (and no, there was nothing to censor out). This either had to be because she couldn't deal or the producer felt the audience couldn't. Take your pick.
She was here and single, but childhood friends with Miggs.
Then Miggs licks her into being his girlfriend. OK.
All the while she is pining away for David.
She finally mops all the saliva off herself and hooks up with her true luuuurve, Mr Robles.
But keeps checking to make sure Miggs doesn't have a hangnail or anything.
They hit some expected turbulence, and by the time Dave has his seat belt fastened and his tray table in the upright position: : :
Luci is fastening her seatbelt over in in D5. ¿Qué cuernos?
Are we to just say "Marta Syndrome" and go with it or am I just not getting it?
Anyway, Irina isn't pulling it off nor have the writers that put her with Miguel for over two months and with David two weeks.
You are right UA. Never showed Daniela in San Francisco with Ashmore in PyP.
As to Luciana's issues about commitment I'd say she has those because she didn't grow up with both parents together past the age of 10. She would then be emotionally like a child of divorce. Take it from one, that isn't easy.
OMG! Did everyone watch the previews?
Kirby--Gringo! of course. I deleted my comment when I remembered it was not Pablo, nor at the end of recaps and was just going to leave it as somebody. You were right there, fingers poised. Thanks for pointing out it was Gringo. I wonder where he is now?
Sadly, agree with all the comments stating IB is not bringing it as Luciana. Yah, David pledged it wasn't over, that he was going to fight for her, the vineyard and their dreams together as a family. . .he even told her he'd entrust his life and all he owned in her hands and it was like she was watching a test pattern on the tv. Jeezo pete. I see they've backed off the feral, teeth-baring "kisses" and do this hand-clutching thing. When I look at her in scenes like that, I don't see Luciana, I see a beautiful young actress thinking about when she won't have to be kissing this old dude anymore. I think I've seen her enthused a few times as "Luciana" but she wasn't even phoning that scene in. . .it was a text at best.
I'm away at a work conference next week. Between hulu+ and wonderful recaps like these, I'll be able to catch up. Didn't see the previews. Maybe it's best.
Thanks again, Anita!
"DisGracefully Diabolical!" Love it Lila.
I wonder if Irina is purposefully rather emotionless or if she is being directed to play the character this way? I saw real emotion, real pain in her recent scenes where Marta's past was revealed but not seen any true passion (or any semblance of it). I have often thought Luci and Erika should have changed roles.
I sense more chemistry with Miguel although he is just generally more enthusiastic and outwardly emotional than David.
I see Fernanda as a spoiled brat who has been relentlessly and mercilessly browbeat by Graciela (with help from Lili). I don't want her to suffer any more than she will when she learns the truth about Graciela. That will be more than enough. Initially I thought Luci would be there to pick up the pieces. Now, it well could be just David and Bobby...
This episode just had me laughing and making raisin jokes.
Of course Fronteras should win best wine! My inability to understand captions made me think it was a Rioja, which I like. Too funny that Mig and Erika were making fun of Riojas.
I was surprised that Perla gave Juan up.
Dy77 ..now you have me thinking of the California Raisins. I am easily led.
I think that Perla hates Mark as much as we do and with more reason. He's been harassing her for a long time. I am surprised that he has been staying away from Susan . Perla doesn't seem to realize that bringing down Mark will also bring down her novio.She is way over her head being involved with these two idiots who think that they are smarter than everyone.
I thought cursi meant corny.
I'm glad Carito got away safe. Perla is pretty much waiting for Mark to kill her. He has no specific reason to yet, but he could get bored.
I am still thinking about that Dear Abby letter UA shared a few weeks ago. "Dear Abby, I broke up with a great guy because my 11-yo daughter didn't approve. Now I miss him. What can I do?" Abby replies: Serves you right for letting an 11-yo run your love life.
I have often wondered whether Luci's weirdness was the actress or the director. I can't believe the director would allow such a noncommittal performance unless it's intentional. I can't help thinking there must be a better way to build suspense, though.
And oh yeah, must see TV on Monday.
OT RIP Chuck Berry.
As for kids breaking up couples, I have seen it happen. The preteen did not like her divorced dad dating. He got her and her brother every weekend, and I don't think she wanted to share her daddy. He was also had a stressful job and was getting his PhD , so his time was limited. I think this might happen quite often in real life . Also, some people do not want to have to deal with other people's kids, so there is a breakup.Dave can't seem to stand up to most of the females in his house. That puts Luci in a very uncomfortable position .
I don't blame kids at all for being upset when their parents begin dating or get married. There's an example in my own family, or actually my BIL's family. The dad spent more time and money on his new stepsons than on his own, who was trying to finish college. That boy was also unhappy with his father for having abandoned his mother, who couldn't even read and write English (she was from Portugal).
But compared to that, David is practically a saint. He hasn't been neglecting his kids at all. It would be natural for Fer to worry that he might, especially given all the misinformation fed to her by her friends and her aunt. However, even if we take Fer's dumb friends and her evil aunt into account, a sensible girl would give her father a chance before assuming the worst.
And Fernanda went way beyond assuming the worst. Her reaction was, frankly, crazy. This appears to be an artistic choice rather than a rational one, as I assume Fernanda isn't supposed to be literally crazy.
Luciana purposefully kept her relationship with David from Miguel. She was upset a relationship with Erika may waylay Miguel's plan to reclaim her and when Miguel angrily confronted her about David her retort was he already moved on with Erika but not a confirmation it was true, more like she's jealous ex lover. Later that day Luciana dumped David knowing Miguel hasn't gone too far because of his jealous rant and she could still snatch him from Erika. Unfortunately for Luciana she feels bound by her promise to Bobby and David needs support at the vineyard or she would already have Miguel's shirt off.
Julie--Corny works. It works for this whole novella. It could have been so much better. I think J.A.Castro lost his touch on this one. All his departments were going solo and no one, including casting, got any of the memos.
Susanlynn and dy--Ah, California Raisins. I remember what fun it was to use them (and avocados) to snark and mock El Tal.
Maybe David is Fernando or Brian and Miguel is Marcos or Ramon and Luciana's love life a repeat of Marta's and the story being told. Marta has been consistent about passion and partner and they aren't found in the same man. One scalding to the touch the other you wrap in a towel and snuggle up to in bed.
-- The many U-turns on the heroine's intelligence in CI was what made me check out of full-attention viewing and watch with half an eye at what a train wreck that series became. I truly can't see how that series was successful.
-- The constant whiplash of the events in YNCELH (especially in its final weeks) was clearly a means of maintaining suspense.
-- Ditto with the treatment of Marcelo and Lucia's relationship in ECDLP.
-- The unrealistic rehabbing of Eladio in PyP was said to be due to FC's fans' reluctance at seeing him play a villain. This affected the entire remainder of the series.
We've also discussed above that Irina Baeva was never shown in any intimate activity with the actor playing Assmore in PyP. I've heard for years that actors typically get to call the shots on this stuff based on their own comfort levels with such scenes. It's possible that she's OK with doing scenes like that with guys closer to her own age, like Jose Pablo Minor (David of PyP) but nobody more than 10 years older than she is. I can certainly see her not minding the idea of such scenes with Raul Coronado (Miguel).
In the present, having her seem non-committal with this David can make a certain amount of story sense because of Luciana's reluctance to rock the boat of David's family life. She knows that he comes with emotional baggage and a package deal that includes Lillian, DisGrace, and FerBrat, not just sweet Bobby who would love to have her be his new mother.
I'd like to see David have a happy relationship with a little young hottie like Luci or the real Luci.
But if she is as enthusiastic undercover as she is about him in general, he'd do better with one of those inflatable dolls.
Miggy and Erika, yawn. Gut and Marta and Lilly------ Please. Tano and FerBrat, I am inclined to do an intervention.
I am not seeing a lot of skin on Luci, Erika or Soo-San, and for a tail wager (me) that would suffice in lieu of anything else interesting. We were treated to Marta and Gut, and Lil's neckline has been steadily dropping....I'm insulted.
I am left with waiting through all this for the people to get their just rewards. There are so many mean nasty people, when the anvils start falling it will be a cornucopia of destruction and justice. Very satisfying.
I am especially interested in seeing the reaction of DisGrace as the noose tightens. We can be sure she will never admit defeat or guilt. That little bitch is crazy and she will put on a show Barnum and Bailey would be proud of.
Your grown up instincts tell you to feel sorry for FerBrat, even though she is chronologically now a new adult too, especially given what we know and what she does not. But she is just such an explosive, selfish Brat she will be brought back down to earth when the truth comes out. Circus Act II
Nasty assed Perla has been warned many times by people who don't have a dog in her fight and she still refuses to listen. She knows enough about what the boys are up to to know better, but selfishly continues, and if it had come to it she would have sacrificed little Carita. We can be sure.she is going down, probably at the hands of her partners in inhumanity.
Juan is another cray cray one. His craziness results in his maniacal obsession of destroying David for purely imagined wrongs. SkidMark is just plain mean, dirty and rotten. He simply deserves a slow painful death. I assume he and NoJuan will take care of each other with Perla caught in the crossfire.
Lillian seems to believe that sitting on her ass drinking free wine in the lap of luxury is the way to spend the rest of her life. In reality she has not committed any real serious crimes, yet. But I daresay her life plan may have a few holes in it. I would not be surprised to see her actually lose her mind and be institutionalized when she finds out about her daughterS.
But until these things get into high gear this starving dog will survive on bones like the passing of the Olympic Ladle and the Comedy Club Camaraderie on the patio.
I don't mind a little skin on the beauties--but I do not need to be reminded of my own aging body by having to watch Lil and Marta doing their thing with two, two-timing guys (well one of them way in the past and thankfully we didn't have to watch).
I enjoy seeing handsome guys of any age, with some acting chops showing their skin (preferably not with a body tattoo) in their tighty non-whiteys (see La Piloto's John and Dalberto). However, except for Miguel, where's the skin on our galans?
David took his shirt off once, I think. Well, it was so long ago his bod dims in my memory. However, I do remember his work-out sessions, gleaming skin in Refugio as Rod the Bod--so he could still be called upon to show it to us. As for Gutierrez, since we're not supposed to like his racist attitudes or politics (win at any cost), keep him covered, especially in the company of two old broads.
If you've read Stevey's Premios column, you see that Juan Vidal (Gut) was nominated for Best Supporting Actor while Christian de la Campa (Juan) wasn't.
To me he was a bit of a villain, but we really don't have any other male villains in this thing besides Juan and Mark, but I thought Christian's role was much closer to being a supporting actor--keeping the action moving. But the real Supporting Actor has been Cesar, in my mind. Sure, it's been a bit boring, blah, even-handed and even-tempered, not outstanding, but it could have been written much more strongly and he could have been a contender.
I think (showing my own prejudices for a bit or reality where they could have done it), that Gut should have been a REAL 2d or 3d generation American speaking English perfectly and Spanish with a bad accent.
I'll get off my soapbox for now.
And we have three or three and a half decent guys you would want to be friends with. Cesar, Bobby, Tano and Ramon.
Do Not Miss Monday.
Oh, don't tell Mr tofie about Max I feel guilty enough.
Anita..I wonder how much say the actors and actresses have in doing love scenes. In a show that I have watched for two seasons, there was quite a lot of skin and love scenes shown in the first season . Then, I saw an interview with the actress in which she said that she was learning to speak up for what she wanted, and in the second season, there was much less skin and only a few brief love connections. So maybe Irina has a clause in her contract about no love scenes with old dudes.
I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow night! I think I might have fallen asleep at the end of Friday's episode because I cannot remember what was in the advances. I am still trying to guess what types of anvils start falling. Disgrace has been keeping a pretty low profile . I am still waiting for her to creep into her bro in law's bed out of sheer desperation.
As for the California Raisin, the patio actually referred to one of the actors by that name. ...A kind of wrinkled gentleman romancing a younger actress .
I can see that happening as a way to disillusion poor Bobby since the FerBratzilla has first been traumatized by seeing David and Luciana kissing.
No way would David agree to sending Bobby to a boarding school unless Bobby himself asked for it; I doubt he would.
I hope tomorrow night's episode is up to expectation; I'm impatient for it.
Really was ridiculously stupid with that ladle. Makes you wonder how her
Husband and kids ate anything. Unless
They had a cook. Which would have been
Good for anybody eating from her pots.
Fer is such a selfish little snit.Tano
Could do better, but hes stuck on that
Heffa. Did I mention how much I don't
Bobby is so sweet. David was being very respectful of his feelings, it is
The tantrumbrat's fault.She acuses her
Dad of doing what she's doing with the
Box of hair. Hypocrite!
You know what I don't get? Why is it that David is being written on as somebody who Can't seem to see or even be suspicious of The crooked people around him? Namely Mooching in-laws. Where is lil getting Monthly income from?Fernandos social Security checks? I know her and juan's been siphoning money off for the past few years but I don't think he's doing that anymore, so maybe shes living off the SSI check or Fernando's pension? I Was just wondering about that.
O David you have so much to see When the writers write the blinders off.
So glad Cesar isn't stupid like his
Alter-ego on that daytime show.I could
Just strangle jaime,but I'll leave that Gisele. But I like cesar, he's moving slowly but surely. I like him
Better with susyQ.
Marta, what to say about marta-Martha.
She needs a new wardrobe. And shoes.
Burn those chunky klunky shoes.Ok done for now. Sunday supper's ready.
Yes, come to think of it, Juan had to share some of his skimming profits with Lil. I guess DisGracie didn't know about that or she would have made Lil kick in some of that to up the ante on the Olive Garden. Of course, Juan would not have let that happen, so I guess it's moot. But you are right. How much is in her bank account now.
There are only three people who can possibly know about Fernando's last breath. Lil, DisGracie and Fernando. Marta would only be able to speculate, unless she was listening outside some doors. My guess would be Lil--in anger for having been "adulterated."
Yeah, Lil deserves better than I gave her I admit.
She could....have killed Fernandon't because of his dalliances with you know what...who.
If she had her daughter (guess which one) kill her own Father, Lil would already be suspicious of what happened to Lisa.
" quite a catch!" Um...see 'blowup doll' above..possibly David's best choice right now.
I suppose they want him to be able to be a L O T smarter when he finally comes around. But then any IQ is bigger than Zero.
Were there any happily married couples in TVA? The memory is faded, but I can't remember any except maybe the cardiologist and his wife?
Susanlynn, married couples DID take a hit in this show. . .literally, as we know in one case, maybe two.
Speaking of which, Luci only saw about what, ten years of her parents marriage and she saw David and Lisa's marriage from the eyes of a child (hmmm, kinda makes their current relationship look really yucky!). Anyway, she and her Dad get deported and the next "example" she has of marital commitment is her Mom refusing to join her and her Dad in Mexico and repeatedly choosing David's family over her and her Dad. When she returns as an adult to Sonoma, she has the dearth of examples of marital bliss that Susan outlined above. This, taken with all the baggage of wacko Klingon in-laws and a narrow-minded, selfish, blackmailing little twerp of a daughter/bitch in-training under the tutelage of DG and Lil.
Hey, I think maybe her lukewarm attitude about David's declaration of undying devotion is healthy and agree with whoever said remaining uncoupled and taking care of oneself is the best option for Luci!
I think I'm more forgiving of Luciana's lack of oomph! with David because this mature man is such a dolt. Juan has openly declared his hatred and purchased the olive land with the water source, but still David is duh! about his sudden water pressure problem.
I give Perla points for at least giving up Mark to Miguel. Nice of Miguel to remind Leon how Marta was a mother to all the vineyard kids.
Juan Vidal (Gut) was nominated for Best Supporting Actor while Christian de la Campa (Juan) wasn't? That's nuts. The Premios have no credibility with that one.
Fernando Colunga was Ricardo De Salamanca y Almonte / "El Antillano"
I enjoyed that novella SOO much and loved how MANLY and proactive Rick was and how he and Camilla never had those silly break-ups and remained devoted throughout! Ahhhh! They don't make 'em like that anymore!
Miguel still seems more of a galan to me than David does, which really annoys me because Miguel is so... annoying. Possessive. But he's kicking things... well, getting kicked... and definitely taking names. He's taken far more action into solving the mystery of the tainted wine than David has.
However, I can no longer claim that even Miguel knows what he wants, because what does he want? Erika? With Luci seemingly available again, will he become distracted? Come on, galan, stay focused.
He was the perfect pirate. After, I saw bits and pieces of Amor Real which captivated me. I heard Alborada was just as good (our own Susanlynn among the commenters).
He just hasn't clicked for me in anything set in modern times. Doesn't mean I don't care for him - I do, but he seems best cast in a bygone era...
Did you see MEPS? I thought he was fine in that. Plus, Lucero as villainess, Silvia Navarro as protagonista, and Sergio Sendel. There were a lot of cliches, but the performances were stellar, the characters were likable, and it all made sense in the end. And FC as... what's his name... was another galan who knew what he wanted and did whatever he could to make things right. He had a friend to help him, like David has Cesar, but we never felt as though the friend was doing all the heavy lifting.
MEPS had Sendel (who is always top notch) and Lucero (first time I'd seen her) who nailed her part as well. They helped!
Ahh..Passion. My third favorite novela. Alborada is Numero uno and my first novela, and Amor Real is second. Okay, do you notice a pattern? They are all historical fiction and all starring Fernandito. Like A!ice followed the white rabbit down that rabbit hole into Wonderland, I followed Fernando down the rabbit hole that is telenovelas.
Pasion...I could only remember Fernando's character as RicRicRic. Does anyone remember Amy Poehler's Ric skits on SNL?? We had to best time with that novela. We generated pirate names for ourselves at a website. I was Mad Bess..and Captain Sylvia Sharkbait turned me into Mad Buns for this telenovela about the baking brothers Fuego en la Sangre.. I think that it was William Levy's first novela ,and he wore a really bad wig, as did SEBASTISN RULLI.
In Amor Real, Fernando played Manuel, a galan who did some very ungakan like things to the leading Lady .
Julie..was MEPS the show where Fernando was supposed to be a football player at Harvard (big football college), and his friend was ESteve that redhaired actor?
Now now Mr. Spanky, we are talking about telenovelas and the proper behavior of galans. You are receiving important historical information about the genre.
ESteve!!! Wow, I'd forgotten him.
I am pretty sure that other TN discussion is "allowed". But thank you Hall Monitor. :)
Pass the Doritos.
These all sound like something from an MSDS label from the EPA.
Those longer than 4 or 5 letters I can not decode.
Yeah, MEPS is Manana Es Para Siempre. No MSDS label needed. It did have a crooked psychiatrist, though.
I bet someone here can figure it out, though.
Do you remember any names?
Do you remember if you saw it on Univision, Telemundo, somewhere else?
And when you say different hair color, do you mean like blond-brunette-redhead, or just different shades of a color? (Like Dr. Crusher's mood hair on Star Trek)
What was the story?
Setting? Rural? Urban? Workplace?
If you remember anything about the song, that'll narrow it down really fast.
How did this get so off-topic?
The husband worked and always wore a tie. They had about a 6 year old kid.
I just remember she was really pretty, and her outlandish hair colors were like the 800 pound gorilla, no one seemed to notice.
She had the same wigs as that little girl on the kids show Lazy Town.
I am counting the hours till tonight's episode. Depending on the answer to the big question, I think several more characters are going to need therapy.
Yeah I am turning off my phone tonight.
I think that I fell asleep and missed the advances for tonight, so I am anxious to find out what you all are whispering about.
On with the Shew!
OK Ok. 78 of them were illegal, but who's keeping score.
Everybody I knew in college that was majoring in it needed one.
That's good. A friend's daughter went cray cray about 15 of so and over the next few years sneaked out and got literally covered with 'body art'. When she was about 22 or 23 they spent a big part of a year's income trying to get those things removed. So it goes both ways.
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