Tuesday, March 07, 2017
Vino el Amor, Lunes 3/6/17 Chapter 87: You Can't Handle the Truth
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If he allows Fernanda to leave with Gracie the girl will soon find out how much Gracie really loves her....NOT.
I agree, "good riddance, Ferbrat!" David should say, "Okay dear, fine if you don't like it here, then maybe Tia can provide the lifestyle you are used to." Let's see how much DisGrace would "love" her niece if she had to have her full time. I say let Ferbrat find out what kind of succubus her aunt really is. Ferbrat is just manipulating anyway. She is probably still being egged on by DisGrace and this is the trump card.
It occurred to me when I went to bed last night that David should have offered the two succubi a first-class trip to Spain with a return ticket to San Diego. However, he should not have to spend that kind of money to be rid of them. Or forbidden them to talk to either of his children until departure the following morning. The fact that FerBrat is now 18 now becomes important.
Anything I ever said positive about Fernanda I take back. Someone needs to talk sense into Tano's head, she'll make his life a living hell.
Hmmm, so irrigation is on Juan's mind
As for Tano, he needs someone to open his eyes to who FerBrat really is. Even without Gracie's brainwashing she is too spoiled and too high-maintenance to be a good girlfriend for any guy. He's four years older and needs someone who isn't as emotionally immature as she is. David deserves some of the blame for that but most of it is on Lillian and Gracie.
Marta, Tano, David, Luciana, all can tiptoe and sweet talk Fernanda down but it doesn't take much to set her off if she doesn't get her way. She has exams to take and yet she is dressed for a party not travel, dragging a roller bag, threatening to leave and bet hasn't told Graciela.
In spite of all the histrionics last night "They clearly wanted to gaslight him" had me smiling away.
So now, David has full knowledge and understanding that Graciela and Lili are effectively working against him at every turn. He will not be able to make any personal decisions that are not in accord with what they want and demand.
While I intensely dislike Fernanda's insolence, it is an attitude born and cultivated by Graciela's machinations. I still believe that there is a good soul encased in anger and resentment. It will be up to Luci to break through.
As Fer is now legal, David cannot force her to stay. I like your idea of having her live with Graciela, Cynthia. Yes, let's see how long of a happy household that would be!
I agree with you UA. I fear David will cave. But even if he does, there is a secret weapon in play. Sonia. "Lion cub, I will help your sister and Señor David.” Yup. I believe she will.
UA, thank you. This was great.
Diana
Now that FerBrat is 18 she should be allowed to experience the consequence of her actions.
I agree about some tough love for a change for FerBrat.
Sure you can go live with the girls, but your tablet, phone, laptop and car stay here. Then immediately cancel service and take the keys. We haven't seen her with a car, but what spoiled little rich twit turns 18 without wheels?
Smuguel is a "Serial Committer" Hopping from one 'forever, till death do us part' relationship to the next. He is as bad as a stray dog who will not go away. Ever think about being by yourself for a while? Sheezo Smuguel, a couple weeks ago you were telling Luci the same thing. Why not just have some index cards printed with your accolades and statement of true devotion. When you meet a chick, just give her one of those and save some time.
David: David: Calling David !
Well,
Pump,
Electricity.
That is where the water is coming from to begin with, so just skip a step.
Dave will totally cave. I was shocked he didn't fall for their tricks in this episode.
I got so excited when the police came to nab Mark. One day!
Think about it Fer, your actual main reason for keeping Succubus around is she helps you with your Tano, not because you luuuurve her so much. David tapping the help could work in your favor when you have to explain Tano's baby to David.
I thought it was hilarious that Juan put something down on his brand-new looking couch to protect it from the SkidMark. What does disturb me is that piece of artwork on his wall with the upper half of a female face obliterated.
Miguel may be a serial committer; we don't know his previous history. I don't think he was a virgin during Luciana's absence. However, what was more worrisome in the commitment conversation fragments was Ericka's "let's not talk about the future and live in the moment" mantra. That points to the serious possibility that they will marry and she will die a year or two later after the birth of their only child. That would kill her father emotionally and there is no evidence that he deserves that. Of course that would also leave Miguel in the same position as David was but without toxic in-laws. A man like that has no problem finding a new wife.
BTW, Dear Abby's second letter this morning is so apt.
Kirby, "We haven't seen her with a car, but what spoiled little rich twit turns 18 without wheels?" Actually, none that I've seen :)
UA, Abby dispensed some good advice. Foolish woman for giving into her 11 year old child's demands. Let's hope David doesn't do the same with his 18 year old's!
Diana
1. The new sheriff Gut is still wearing sergeant stripes on his uniform. Why?
2. One of the commentators mentioned Tano's baby. Did Fer and Tano already have sex?
3. Why is Miguel still wearing that bandana given to him by Luciana on his wrist, even when he is professing his new love for Erika?
Well,Dave has taken off the gloves...And his vest... And has become large and in charge. Prometheus Unbound ! Do you think that there is a big box of vests waiting to be sent off to Buenowill? Dad is mad and has called those two naughty, naughty girls on the carpet. Disgrace is hoping for a spanking, but...No spanking for you, Grace..It's suspension..Para siempre. #sistersledgewantstheirsongback
Fernanda doesn't have a car and I can't recall her ever driving at all. Since a car is a traditional college graduation present among US affluents she won't have one until then.
Brian's uniform is a either a serious mistake that shouldn't have been allowed to pass, a statement of the character's competence, or a passive/aggressive swipe at US law enforcement.
As to the bandana, I have seen those before and I have no clue what they supposedly mean in general.
I saw a Frontera wine at the wine store the other night. It was from Argentina, and it was really cheap. Several varieties. I didn't buy any.
There is trouble ahead for Sonia if she's going to side with Luci and David over Lilian (because I'm guessing Lil won't be gone long). If Lil comes back/never leaves, will David make it clear to her AND to all the staff that she no longer has any authority?
But yeah, I'd love for Fernanda to stay off-site with Graciela for a few days. Heh heh.
And I loved Abby's advice for that second letter. :o)
Goblue: in answer to your question on yesterday's recap, Sara was shot by her ex-husband and died in the hospital. Then she and Yago were on that "train" (or bus) to the afterlife.
I have been wondering about the bandana too. It's not the same one every day, so I guess he has a collection and Luci's was just one of many. As to why he wears them, I have no idea. Are grapevines thorny?
I am interested in SOnia's history with LIlian. How did they meet? How long have she known her? Does SOnia have knowledge about Lilian's closet of skeletons? I do not understand much of the dialogue, so I sometimes make up my own lines. During the meeting between DAve and Sonia :
Dave: Sonia, you should totally lose your...Vest..And open the first three buttons of your shirt. All the cool kids do it..LUci..Miguel....And Luci.
Susanlynn: Graciela has MORE bags of tricks up her sleeve non-stop. She's done destroying Luciana & Co., yet.
Julie: I really like to know MORE about Sonia's family history. She's old enough to be Leon's mommy :)
UA: FerBrat obviously doesn't want to go to college because she's LAZY!
Tofie: Bobby obviously likes Luciana from the get-go!
So it just made sense that it is a promise rag, just sayin....................:-).
Surely she wouldn't "leave" him to go with the gruesome twosome (?)
Interesting point about how Sonia ended up there. Julie I share your concern regarding Lili directing her wrath toward Sonia. But as Lili is obsessed with Marta, she will likely continue to bear the brunt of most of Lili's anger. After all, she is Luci's mother too which adds fuel to the fire.
Diana
(I'm assuming that Lil and Disgrace won't be gone long, if they ever go away at all.)
And I like Susanlynn's suggestion that Fer should get a job. I recommend food service. It is extremely humbling, because hungry people are the meanest people in the world.
And Tano will soon discover that he is dating a grown up Honey BooBoo and moonlighting his day job at the vineyard as an unpaid servant to Mama June. Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha
Fernanda has already been shown to be impulsive at times to a fault--mostly exacerbated by Team Succubus--so her going straight to "If my tia goes, I go" at least made sense. Since Tano is currently her sanity check, though, it's up to him--or the absence thereof?--to help drag her back over to the side of rationality. Or at least until she finally gets a glimpse of the real Graciela and/or Lilian, whenever that is.
Juan apparently planning some sort of play using the Los Olivos irrigation water supply to sabotage Bodega de Los Angeles...why am I not surprised that this apparently also happened in LQNPA, another fine Guero Castro product? At least he's being a more active villain now, and that's still good.
But the Sonia thing is odd at this point. After Lilian fired her, David literally vetoed it and she stuck around; so, while she still answers to her, she knows David's got her back. Then again, Sonia's always been a shrinking violet around Lil.
And I'm tempted to start a new VEA drinking game: take a sip any time Marta evades a question about either her past loves or why she and Lilian hate each other.
P.s.Julie..yes, I did see what you did there. Good one.
Hire it done for probably what you are spending a month on the freeloaders.
Kick the Hoes to the curb (Not the kirb) have a well put down and help the PoPo get NoJuan.
Hopefully Fer will write once in a while.
Make some good looking future wine stompers.
Yaaa kickin'.
I was thinking about the California water situation as I was driving through the rain to work this morning. I hardly ever see rain in TNs, but when I do, it's usually heavy. I don't know if that's a reflection on the Mexican climate, or just dramatic license.
But now we are in Sonoma/Napa which, according to Wikipedia, gets less than 30" of rain per year, mostly during the winter. On the other hand... we know there's a river nearby. Great place to get stoned.
I am very curious to see what the writers show us about the Sonia\Lilian story. Do they have a history? The way Lilian is always bossing SOnia around, they do not appear to be friends. Oh, wait, Lilian bosses everyone around. Hall monitor to the universe.
Lord, Miguel. Why is Adolfo so happy about him pairing up with his daughter. Miguel aint got a pot to piss in that I know of. Oh, well, good to see a parent happy when his offspring is happy. Now Susan needs to keep her conversations with him to grapes and human trafficking and not go dropping tidbits about Luciana.
Miguel certainly will be lucking out in the in-law department if he marries Erica.Aldolo seems to be a nice guy..except for dating Lilian. Dave, on the other hand, got Lilian ..with Disgrace as a bonus. He must have done something awful in another life to get that duo. I am still wondering why the writers brought up Erica having asthma or something. Why bring that up if it is not part of the storyline somehow.
I know David, I know, you love your kids
I know, I know you feel guilty about gettin inta a funky funk for a couple years.
But now that you are back, be BACK. Stand up to your punk ass little daughter and be a Daddy.
Show her some real strength and consistency that she can always count on whether she likes it or not.
If she wants to move, let her move. Take bets on her Facebook how long she will be gone, you are friends there right?
Hell, if it is such a good idea, PAY Bobby to pretend to want go with them also. Teach him how to scratch like he has lice.
;D
I am still wondering how Lisa's murder will be uncovered. Disgrace is becoming so unhinged and desperate that she may actually blurt it out to Dave at some point.
I believe that Sheriff Gut is going to bring Juan and Marked down and redeem himself . I could never buy a guy like Gut as Lilian'slap dog . wuf.
Also, will we ever find out what really went down between Lilian, Marta, and Fernando because Fernando is dead , so it will always be "she said" "she said."
Marta and Fernando's relationship seems to be like that secret little box Juan had: an undeveloped plot point. Did you notice Ramon looking at her all sketchy-like when she dodged his question? Ah don't know. It's filler, like the liquid in a pot of greens: plot liquor, no substance but can be used to flavor things if needed.
But... now that David knows all of Juan's sins (well, all of Juan's sins that Disgrace knows of)... there's little reason for Juan to keep Disgrace's secret except to extort money from her. Since she's been too busy with bitchery to paint much lately, she might run out of blackmail money. Then it will be time for Juan to talk.
Granted, Juan has a severe credibility problem with David now. But we'll see what's in that little box.
Yah, the box could hold Lisa's cell but what would be on it? Seems a stretch for it to have been in record mode and recorded the fight. Yah. Don't know.
Airhead. Thanks UA.
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