Monday, December 18, 2017
Caer en Tentación #41, 12/18/17, Lunes: False Confessions and Empty Promises
Chapter
41: False Confessions and Empty Promises
Raquel
and Santiago acknowledged that they could not live without each other
and broke the kiss, but perhaps not in time to avoid being seen or
heard by Lola, who arrived carrying Benjamín. She excused herself,
saying she was going up to her room. Raquel became concerned about
her reaction, knowing that the possibility of a relationship with
Santiago was not welcome to her own children. She decided to leave,
and he asked her not to.
Lola
had barely put Benjamín on the bed when Juan called her on the heels
of several text messages.
“Can't
you leave me alone?” she answered.
“I
want to see you. Where are you? Where are you right now?” he
demanded to know.
“Are
you crazy? I don't want to see you again. You almost just killed
Bebo. This is insane.”
“I'm
not going to do anything, Lola.”
“This
is abuse.”
“This
is your fault, Lola! What is it with this guy?” He was working up
a rage that would send anyone running for cover. “He's a criminal;
don't you know that?”
“And
you are a madman, Juan. What part of 'I don't want to see you again'
don't you understand?”
“Lola,
I can calm down if you help me,” he said as he went inside.
“You
can't change. You keep saying the same thing but you will never
change.”
“[???]
Don't say that to me. If I'm sick you can help me. Do you see? You
love me, Lola.”
“It's
over. If I see you coming too close to me I will call the police.
Plese, don't call me anymore or send me any more messages.”
She
ended the call, leaving him in a rage of frustration.
Cinthia
tried to kiss Fernando, who had the sense to pull back.
“I'm
sorry.”
“I
don't please you?”
“Of
course you do. You're very pretty.”
“Therefore?”
“I
can't make this mistake twice. If I deceive my wife again everything
goes to hell.”
“I
understand.”
“I
need you to help catch Rafael. I need something, like an
incriminating recording.”
“Don't
worry; I'll get it. I'll go.” She turned to leave.
“I
didn't want you to. It's necessary you stay here.”
“No.
You're helping me because I can be useful to you. Nothing else.”
She started walking away.
“Cinthia,
I only want to help you.”
“I
don't need your help, thankyouverymuch.”
“Listen
to me –” he said as she closed the bathroom door behind her.
“Go
away, please.”
Laura's
boss congratulated her on the debut of her new program. He told her
it needed more; she needed to get information that nobody else had.
She told him she had first-hand information. There was nothing the
police had that she didn't know.
“Laura,
you're a reporter. What do you want to say? We don't look for the
truth. We look for news. What people are interested in. If
it's true, good. Justice can take its time to happen. We can't. So
look for information.”
“Do
you expect me to make things up?”
“No.
I'm not telling you to. Just to look into the police investigation.
We need meat. Look for things about people.”
“Ah
ha. Dirt is what you want me to deliver.”
“Exactly!
Now you're saying something intelligent, mamita. For
example, Galindo. Or the widower, so to speak. Or the one in the
coma. Or the wife. You know very well what I want. Stuff your
husband doesn't tell you.”
“Those
are things he can't tell me,” she replied.
“Therefore,
look for that somewhere else. Act like a female private eye. You
have ways to get people to reveal secrets.” He winked.
“And
if I don't?”
“You
know very well that your career is at risk. Laurita, you are being
asked to bring in the news. Or find your career off-camera. Have a
nice day.”
He
left her alone to think about this. She was beginning to question
his ethics and whether she shared them.
Nicolás
and Alina had just finished another round of their risky business on
the couch in her office. Not only did he not get the reaction from
her that he was looking for, she told him that she was a “free”
woman who didn't want a life partner, at least for the moment.
Especially not a “little boy” like himself. She had no desire to
compete with girls his age.
“Girls
my age don't interest me. You do.”
“That
doesn't matter to me. It suffocates me. Imagine if we were
exclusive.”
“I
promise I won't suffocate you,” he said.
“Nico,
I like having sex with you. It's the only thing that will happen
between us. Don't ruin it.”
“But
I'm in love with you.”
She
laughed quietly, then broke into a laugh similar to Angelique's from
Dark Shadows.
“Why
are you laughing?”
“It's
what you're saying.”
“Do
you know Licenciado Rueda?” he asked. She stopped laughing.
“How
do you know this gentleman?”
“At
the courthouse.”
“What
did he tell you?”
“To
beware of you. Why did he say that?”
He
had caught her off guard.
Mia
visited Damián in the hospital. She told him she missed him and
went on about how they missed him and that he needed to wake up. “If
you don't, Santi will be with my mother.”
Rafael
went to Laura's home. It was in response to her call and she said
she needed to know more about the Becker case. He asked if there was
money in it and she said she would talk to her boss.
Then
he told her he had been removed from the case. This made him of no
value to her and she told him to leave. Except that he told her that
Fernando was talking to Cinthia, who was Raquel's sister. He
insinuated that she was young, pretty, and that he knew her through
“various business dealings.”
Santiago
tried to talk to Lola, who told him that she was aware there was
something between him and Raquel. She told him that this was “sick”
and compared it to the affair between Carolina and Damián. She
thought it was “revenge” and said “If you ask me if I'm okay
with this, the answer is No. I can't.”
Federico
was having problems with Marcos in the pasta factory. He had made
comments about Raquel, repeating rumors that she tried to off her
husband in order to get control of the factory, and Federico took
major exception to this. Federico told him off, saying that talking
this way behind the new boss's back was wrong. Marcos acted like it
was a joke and Federico left him and Dani, saying they'd talk later.
Marcos was amused at having provoked him and Dani told him that from
this point on he was on his own. She wasn't going to help him
anymore in his mission to get Fede.
Santiago
and Raquel talked about his exchange with Lola. She was feeling
guilty, thinking that the girl was right. Santiago reminded her that
only they knew their own feelings for each other. She said they had
to talk to their children. They wanted their relationship, but both
knew that their children didn't want it. She wanted their relationship to be out in the open. He invited her out to
dinner that night, to a romantic place. She agreed to meet him there
and to call him later to find out where. They kissed before she
left.
Bebo
told Antonio that it was impossible for his father to have committed
the murder of Carolina. He asked to see him and Antonio said he
could later. For the moment the way he could help him was to find a
witness that was with Nacho at the time of the murder. Bebo asked
whether Antonio believed that his father did the crime and Antonio
said “the evidence points that way.” He then asked him to wait
outside and he would let him know when he could see his father.
Bebo
went to the outer office area where Rafael started talking to him.
Bebo didn't trust him. Rafael handed him his business card and said
to call him if he wanted help.
Raquel
arrived home to find Mia sitting on the couch texting on her cell.
She asked whether Raquel was working at the company and she told her
that she was going to do so in Damián's absence.
“Do
you know what's happening with Grandma?”
“No;
I know nothing about that.”
“Of
course. You start working at the company and you abandon Grandma,”
said the girl with sarcasm and a petulant expression.
“I
don't abandon anybody, Mia. Your grandmother decided to do that the
moment she tried to kill your father.” She paused a moment,
waiting for Mia to react. The girl's face was bank. “Independent
of this I am totally within my rights to look after your father's
interests and ours.”
“You
were never interested in the business.”
“Because
your father never allowed me to –”
“And
now at these hours you were at work?”
“I
was at Santiago's house talking about Nacho. Didn't you know?”
“Yes.
What else is new, Mother?” She turned away, likely not wanting an
answer to the question.
“And
it doesn't surprise me because I know those construction workers are
the worst troublemakers.”
“Mia,
for God's sake, don't –”
“Mother,
why does everything I say bother you?”
“Let's
do something now. Let's start over and talk. I don't want to argue
with you. I need to talk to you.” She took her daughter's hands
and pulled her back toward herself. “Mia, Mia –”
“What,
Mother? You want to talk about Santiago? Do you want my permission
to fuck him? I think you already are, no? I think you already have
and that's quite enough.”
“We're
going to be careful with our words –”
“Why
don't you and Santiago watch yourselves? Because you are the same as
Father and Carolina.” Raquel tried to respond to this, but Mia cut
her off. “You just confirmed this, Mother You never paid this
kind of attention to my father because you had been fucking
Santiago.”
Raquel
looked at her daughter in utter frustration, perhaps wishing she were
the parent who could give her a good spanking. She thought back to a
confrontation with Damián.
“I
think that you owe me the truth,” she had said to Damián.
“I
left because I wanted to put all this behind me. I couldn't respond
to you, our children, the company. I'm confused.”
“You
know what happened to you? You didn't talk to me, so I don't know if
that's what was up with you. I know there were many problems in the
business with you having to manage your mother, your cousin, but you
never talk to me. Therefore, I don't know where to go. Whether you
are hiding something from me. Are you?”
Damián
looked away from her.
“Problems
with your mother? Your cousin?”
“Business
problems. I was wrong. I never wanted to involve you in this, but
it was enough that you and I build a life together. Without you I
don't know who I am. I'm sorry. I've made mistakes but I promise we
will be together for the good and the bad. Through the good and the
bad, I will be with you.”
They
clung to each other and kissed. Raquel was crying.
Juan
yelled at Lola, accusing her of ignoring him and driving him crazy.
He threatened to accuse her publicly of leading on other guys to make
him jealous. She felt helpless, as this was happening in his home.
His mother came in during this and asked him what was going on. She
wore the look of a woman who had at least some notion of what her son
was and what he was up to.
“What
have you been doing to this little girl?” She went over to Lola
and looked carefully at her.
“Mother,
don't interfere!”
She
was not afraid to look him in the eye and call him out on this. She
then directed Lola to the door and out of the house. After the door
closed behind them he let out an animal cry, like a wounded ape.
Sometime
after dark Santiago came home drunk in Nacho's company. He was sure
Carolina didn't love him. She got up and saw him dishevelled. She
asked whether he was drunk. He evaded the question, put his keys on
the sideboard, and said he was going to bed. She asked Nacho whether
Santiago was drunk.
“We
just had a little drink, nothing more,” he said. “He's just like
this because he never drinks.”
“Yes;
I've never seen him in this condition. What did you talk about?”
“About
you, Caro. All the time about you. He loves you. This man loves
you. Take care of him because you won't find another like him.”
“Why
are you telling me all this?”
“I
don't know. So that you know it. Carolina, you know very well that
Santiago is like a son to me.” She nodded. “He wants you to
love him. Don't hurt him.”
Carolina
looked uneasy.
“I
love him.”
“Then
show him. Show him. Without you, Santiago is lost.”
He
left.
At
the same time Raquel and Damián were in bed engaged in sex that may
or may not have been like what they had been accustomed to before
Carolina became part of his life. His facial expression carried a
stew of conflicting emotions.
Mia
entered her brother's room without knocking and shouted. “I don't
understand our parents. Not Father and least of all Mother.”
“Mia,
why are you barging into my room without knocking?”
“Because
I felt like it. Are you listening?” She grabbed the computer he
was using and threw it on the bed. “Because I felt like it.”
“Hey,
hey! What's up with you now?”
“Don't
you get it? They're locked in the bedroom fixing their problems by
having sex.”
“What?
Why does that matter? Why are you butting into this?”
“I'm
butting in because they butt into my life! They always say I'm good
or I'm bad or some other thing –”
“I
tell you once, twice, thrice, a thousand times and it's always the
same. You get me to do things that aren't good and that I don't want
to do. I talked to Gabriela. She told me everything. I almost
wanted to kill myself.”
“Did
you just say that?”
“Yes.
She denied everything. She said she was not Dad's lover. Now she
wants to come and talk to Mother.”
“She's
a liar. I saw them in the hotel. I saw her with Father. She –”
“It's
always the same! Every time the same!”
“Yes.
I had heard that Carolina is Father's lover. You know what I think?
That nobody in this family matters to them. You just think of
yourself and they about themselves. Nobody thinks about me.”
“Mia,
we're also important.”
But
she was walking away.
“I'm
only important if I cause problems. And nobody really cares about
what happens to me.”
“Listen
to what you're saying, Mia!” He paused for a second. “Now I'm
asking you. What is so wrong that you cut yourself?”
Juan's
mother apologised to Lola as she drove her home. She was aware that
Juan had issues and needed help. She promised to keep him away from
her. However, she begged her not to report him because it could not
only lose him his job but end his career. Lola agreed to this as
long as Juan stayed away from her. She never wanted to see him or
hear from him again. His mother promised. She most probably had no
idea that she had no control over him.
Carolina
tried to help Santiago undress for bed but he would not allow her to.
He kept telling her he could do it himself and she should tend to
the children. He finally laid down, hugged the pillow, and fell
asleep. Carolina laid down on the bed behind him and embraced him.
Raquel,
in the logic that can set in after chaos has left, told Damián that
she didn't want this to happen out of pity. She wanted him there for
the right reasons and it wasn't clear to her whether he was or not.
She loved him and wanted him with her but not if he didn't feel the
same way. She wanted there to be love with no guilt and no regrets.
He claimed he had no guilt but she pointed out the business problems
and Miriam and that this had an effect on the family. She tried to
get him to resolve those things. He agreed, then said there was
something else.
“What
else?”
“Gabriela.
Mia saw her in the hotel I was staying in.”
“To
see you?”
“Of
course it wasn't to see me. It was to see Christian, who was staying
in the same hotel.”
“And
what? Do you believe that? Because you know she always wanted to
boink you.”
“But
not I her. I never wanted to boink her. You know perfectly well.
You know me.”
“I
know you? Yes, I know you.”
“She
concocted a story to make me look bad. If you don't believe me, ask
Christian.”
Raquel
got up from the bed wrapped in a sheet.
“Where
are you going?”
“To
think about things.”
Carolina
was still awake when Lola returned home. Carolina asked her why she
was so late and approached her. She saw some abraded marks on her
wrist and asked what was wrong.
“It
was only an argument.”
“What
is this? Who did this to you? Tell me who did this. Was it
Andres?” Lola did not answer. “Who was it? Who was it,
daughter?”
“Juan.
I didn't know what to do. I was afraid he would kill me –”
Carolina
dropped Lola's arm and started toward the stairs. Lola begged her
not to tell her father. Carolina told her to calm down. They were
going to tell Santiago and the next day they were going to go to the
school to tell the director. Lola became afraid again but Carolina
would not change her mind.
Santiago
sent a text to Raquel to meet him at nine at the Brasserie de Lyon.
He looked happy. Nicolás returned home and immediately they began
talking about Alina. Santiago pointed out that this could not go
anywhere, as she was much older. Nicolás didn't really want to talk
about it and tried to go upstairs, but Santiago told him he wanted to
talk to him about Raquel. Nicolás said that he was aware there was
a mutual attraction but said he thought it was a bad idea because
they would fall under suspicion in the murder investigation. “Do
what you want, but I don't like this.”
Alina
and Rueda had a confrontation.
“What
is this about? Are you looking to interfere in my life?”
“Your
life?” he asked. “You have destroyed my son's life. And I will
make it my business to do the same to yours.”
“So
you're threatening me?”
“Yes.
That is what I'm doing. Be careful, Alina. Be careful. Because
you are going to pay for what you did to my son.”
“Don't
you get it?” Mia asked her brother. “Everything Grandmother said
was true. Mother has been fucking Santiago.”
“Enough,
Mia, enough! Not once more time!”
“I
know she feels something for Santiago. I don't know it perfectly but
she's right. They're a pair of cinicos.”
“For
once in your life can you stop saying stupid things?”
“Why
don't you ask our mother?”
Federico
couldn't think of an answer to this challenge so he said nothing.
“You
can't. Because you can't take the idea of toppling mother from her
altar. Mother was with Santiago like Father was with Carolina. You
just don't want to know.”
She
walked out of Federico's room. He paused for a moment, then went out
himself.
Raquel
was sitting on the stairs reading a text from Santiago. She texted
an answer.
Perfect.
We'll see each other there in an hour.
She
patted the stair next to her, indicating that Federico should sit
there. Instead he went to a lower step and stood.
“What
do you want to tell me, that you're seeing Santiago?” He didn't
wait for her answer. “Mia told me everything. And if you hope
I'll approve, forget it.”
He
walked away. She tried to call him back, but was not successful.
Nicolás'
and Lola's words echoed in Santiago's mind as the alarm rang on his
cell indicating that it was time to leave to meet Raquel. The same
thing happened to Raquel. The only difference was that while
Santiago's children sounded rational and Nicolás had a cogent
argument against the possibility of this relationship, Raquel's
children were irrational and misinformed. The guilt got to both of
them. Santiago left a voicemail apology while Raquel texted hers.
He sat down in his living room while she sat on her bed and finally
leaned on the pillow. The beautifully set table reserved for them
went empty.
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I sincerely hope not. Fernando can do so much better.
I am seriously wanting to slap Mia flat for her accusations and her selfishness. She has virtually admitted that she does bad things to get attention. It's at the point where even Federico can't take it anymore.
Juan's mother is in major denial about how seriously ill he is. She can't manage him. I'm wondering what his mother issues are because why else would he be so dangerous to women? As for Lola, will she deny everything when Carolina drags her to the school's administration office?
New fact about Alina that she has messed up Rueda's son. Could this have been deliberate to throw him off his professional game? That would make her even more twisted than we have all concluded.
I am seriously wanting to slap Mia flat for her accusations and her selfishness. She has virtually admitted that she does bad things to get attention. It's at the point where even Federico can't take it anymore.
Juan's mother is in major denial about how seriously ill he is. She can't manage him. I'm wondering what his mother issues are because why else would he be so dangerous to women? As for Lola, will she deny everything when Carolina drags her to the school's administration office?
New fact about Alina that she has messed up Rueda's son. Could this have been deliberate to throw him off his professional game? That would make her even more twisted than we have all concluded.
Can't wait to settle down with coffee and an Urban recap. Juan's mother came out of nowhere. Do we have to add her to the list of suspects now? (Broma) Since Lola was still involved with Juan three years later (in the beginning of the "present" time), I can't imagine what could have made her stay with him that long, short of his promising to kill himself. Momma obviously was no help because he was still acting deranged three years after this new incident happened. I wonder if Lola will talk her mother out of going to the school office. Be back later....
I know we aren't supposed to post anything about the actor's personal lives but did you all know that Lola and juan are actually dating in real life! Well the actors are lol. That just tells me that the juan actor is trully a great actor to actually make himself so creepy and abusive in his portrayal.
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: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 12:01:00 PM EST
Ana--maybe that's why they are keeping Juan around....yes, we don't normally talk about the actors' personal lives, but sometimes it's fun to know when personal relationships, permanent or not, happen--like Paulina Goto and Horacio Pancheri in Camino, or Lola Ponce and Aarón Díaz (who were playing siblings) in El Tal--intrude on the storyline. Personally I would rather see her with the real Bebo--he's HOT, but of course she's spent a lot more time "naked" and having sex with Juan than Bebo.
QUESTION: About the Legato car found burned up. Raquel says there were two of them and the keys were in them so any one can use them. She recalls to Santi that Nacho did use the car at least once to bring the workers over to her house (during the kitchen reno, I guess), which was a long time ago. DID NO ONE EVER NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE CARS WAS MISSING? Didn't they have a check-in/check-out system? Poor management I would say. Poor Nacho.
QUESTION: About the Legato car found burned up. Raquel says there were two of them and the keys were in them so any one can use them. She recalls to Santi that Nacho did use the car at least once to bring the workers over to her house (during the kitchen reno, I guess), which was a long time ago. DID NO ONE EVER NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE CARS WAS MISSING? Didn't they have a check-in/check-out system? Poor management I would say. Poor Nacho.
Thanks UA!
No surprise that all four kids don't approve of Santi and Raq being together. I almost thought that if one of them was gonna be understanding of the situation it'd be Fede but he and Mia do share some of the same traits. Raq didn't wanna have to hide their relationship but it looks like they're gonna have to.
Although it didn't make a difference in the long run, I'm glad that Nacho was honest with Carolina about Santiago. At first I didn't think that he was gonna tell her that Santi essentially got drunk because of her. I got a kick out drunk Santiago. He was kinda cute lol
Damian shouldn't have even brought up what happened at the hotel with Gabriela and what Mia saw. Of course he wasn't gonna mention Caro (and Mia didn't even know about Caro), but he knows that Raq is suspicious of Gabriela.
Juan's mother saw right away what was going on. I don't know yet if she's completely relevant in this story but we'll see.
No surprise that all four kids don't approve of Santi and Raq being together. I almost thought that if one of them was gonna be understanding of the situation it'd be Fede but he and Mia do share some of the same traits. Raq didn't wanna have to hide their relationship but it looks like they're gonna have to.
Although it didn't make a difference in the long run, I'm glad that Nacho was honest with Carolina about Santiago. At first I didn't think that he was gonna tell her that Santi essentially got drunk because of her. I got a kick out drunk Santiago. He was kinda cute lol
Damian shouldn't have even brought up what happened at the hotel with Gabriela and what Mia saw. Of course he wasn't gonna mention Caro (and Mia didn't even know about Caro), but he knows that Raq is suspicious of Gabriela.
Juan's mother saw right away what was going on. I don't know yet if she's completely relevant in this story but we'll see.
Urban--I think Raq and Santi are still conflicted over their own feelings for each other. It's true that they both are suffering mutually, the after effects of betrayal by their own spouses. They also know they are attracted to each other. They also know they like those comforting kisses and hugs and now they've had rather vigorous sex and are wondering why. Afterwards, Raq said she felt a sense of relief, comfort; while Santi said it was torture.
That says to me why they decided to "talk to their children," but at the same time start out fresh with each other and that's why he asked her out on a dinner date. She shyly asked if it was going to be a romantic dinner and he, with a twinkle in his eye, said yes.
I'm still on Team Raq & Santi and wish the burden of their children could be lifted from their shoulders. They'll never be able to start out fresh--or at least not until the murderer is found and if it is the same person that caused the accident--and it's not either of them. Mia is like others we know. Once they get an idea in their heads, conspiracy theories or their own imaginings, they won't let go, even in the face of reality. That is probably one reason why no number of denials by Raquel (or Gabriela) will change her mind--until she herself switches to Carolina later.
If Carolina hadn't been in the car with Damian, on the road, at night, Mia would probably still be believing it was Gabriela--three years later.
That says to me why they decided to "talk to their children," but at the same time start out fresh with each other and that's why he asked her out on a dinner date. She shyly asked if it was going to be a romantic dinner and he, with a twinkle in his eye, said yes.
I'm still on Team Raq & Santi and wish the burden of their children could be lifted from their shoulders. They'll never be able to start out fresh--or at least not until the murderer is found and if it is the same person that caused the accident--and it's not either of them. Mia is like others we know. Once they get an idea in their heads, conspiracy theories or their own imaginings, they won't let go, even in the face of reality. That is probably one reason why no number of denials by Raquel (or Gabriela) will change her mind--until she herself switches to Carolina later.
If Carolina hadn't been in the car with Damian, on the road, at night, Mia would probably still be believing it was Gabriela--three years later.
Clara & Leo in Yo No Creo ... fell in love in real life and are now parents.
The only child's opinion Santiago & Raquel really need to consider is Benjamin's. The other 4 children are apparently legal adults who are all out having sex (except Fede).
That's not to say none of the children's opinions are valid (except Mia's) but I don't think Santiago & Raquel need to put their genitals on ice for the rest of their lives because their kids don't like it. Santiago doesn't like Lola having sex with Juan & will not like it when he finds out Nico is having sex with Alina but I'd bet if he asks either one of them to stop having sex with Juan & Alina, both of them will tell Santiago NO.
Mia doesn't want Raquel having sex with ANYONE, including Damian. She's always been disgusted at the thought of Raquel having sex with Damian and is disgusted with the thought of Raquel having sex with Santiago. IMO Mia sees Raquel as a sexual competitor and she will not be happy unless Raquel loses. If Damian did wake up and go back to Raquel, Mia would be just fine if Damian rejected Raquel sexually and started cheating on Raquel again.
Mia can't win unless Raquel loses.
Fede has had Raquel on a pedestal so it hurts him to see that all the bad things Mia has been saying about Raquel are actually "true." I think he'll be fine once he finds out the truth. Mia will never accept Raquel being sexual with anyone.
Nico & Lola may feel a way because Carolina hasn't been dead but for a hot minute and Santiago is moving on and Nico does make a good point that the investigation isn't over and they could be suspected by being together.
However, if it's about Nico & Lola's approval, both of them need to sit down because Santiago would not approve of Juan beating down Lola and Lola going back for more and he would not approve of Nico sleeping with the much older Alina.
Laura's producer is sleazy. I hope Bebo watches out for Rafael. I actually can see Godoy falling for Cinthia because she is much more vulnerable & receptive than Laura is.
The only child's opinion Santiago & Raquel really need to consider is Benjamin's. The other 4 children are apparently legal adults who are all out having sex (except Fede).
That's not to say none of the children's opinions are valid (except Mia's) but I don't think Santiago & Raquel need to put their genitals on ice for the rest of their lives because their kids don't like it. Santiago doesn't like Lola having sex with Juan & will not like it when he finds out Nico is having sex with Alina but I'd bet if he asks either one of them to stop having sex with Juan & Alina, both of them will tell Santiago NO.
Mia doesn't want Raquel having sex with ANYONE, including Damian. She's always been disgusted at the thought of Raquel having sex with Damian and is disgusted with the thought of Raquel having sex with Santiago. IMO Mia sees Raquel as a sexual competitor and she will not be happy unless Raquel loses. If Damian did wake up and go back to Raquel, Mia would be just fine if Damian rejected Raquel sexually and started cheating on Raquel again.
Mia can't win unless Raquel loses.
Fede has had Raquel on a pedestal so it hurts him to see that all the bad things Mia has been saying about Raquel are actually "true." I think he'll be fine once he finds out the truth. Mia will never accept Raquel being sexual with anyone.
Nico & Lola may feel a way because Carolina hasn't been dead but for a hot minute and Santiago is moving on and Nico does make a good point that the investigation isn't over and they could be suspected by being together.
However, if it's about Nico & Lola's approval, both of them need to sit down because Santiago would not approve of Juan beating down Lola and Lola going back for more and he would not approve of Nico sleeping with the much older Alina.
Laura's producer is sleazy. I hope Bebo watches out for Rafael. I actually can see Godoy falling for Cinthia because she is much more vulnerable & receptive than Laura is.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:02:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:02:00 PM EST
RE: Mia, it doesn't matter if it was Gabriela or Carolina or Cinthia or a random chick at Legato. I don't think Mia wants to know the identity of Damian's lover to protect Raquel; she wants to know the identity of Damian's lover to bash Raquel over the head with. Sure, she'd be mad that Carolina/Gabriela was destroying their family but she would also be gleeful that Gabriela/Carolina was taking Raquel's man.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:06:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:06:00 PM EST
TF--I forgot that important element. Thanks for mentioning it. Neither Santi nor Raq want to keep their relationship hidden (what they've been doing up to now and not very covertly). Nico told them it was obvious to everyone but themselves. Raq said she wanted their relationship to be out in the open and why Santi decided to start it with a dinner date.
Mia's Electra complex is very disturbing. The writers are likely going to a very dark place with this. Remember Ana Leticia's pursuit if her hot uncle?
Mia definitely has issues with the idea of Raquel as a sexual person; HTF does she think she got here, IVF? Due to her recent behavior and her refusal to go back to the shrink I vote for the manicomio. Ayer.
Considering his proclivities I wonder whether Andres ever molested her.
Juan's mother needs to watch out for him. My gut says he might become the next Norman Bates.
Mia definitely has issues with the idea of Raquel as a sexual person; HTF does she think she got here, IVF? Due to her recent behavior and her refusal to go back to the shrink I vote for the manicomio. Ayer.
Considering his proclivities I wonder whether Andres ever molested her.
Juan's mother needs to watch out for him. My gut says he might become the next Norman Bates.
Thank you Urban for your detailed recap.
The children suddenly are providing their 'moral' compass to Santiago and Raquel!
Speaking of the children, does anyone know if Fede has a drivers license and where he was on the night of the murder/accident?
Still Andres seems like the most likely one.
The children suddenly are providing their 'moral' compass to Santiago and Raquel!
Speaking of the children, does anyone know if Fede has a drivers license and where he was on the night of the murder/accident?
Still Andres seems like the most likely one.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 2:10:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 2:10:00 PM EST
Anon@2:10
Andres is still the most likely one to me also because with Damian out of the way, he can set Miriam aside (which he's succeeding in doing), get Raq to be his by hook or by force (using money to cover her expenses), and as Steve said, get the Big Chair and cover his criminal activities within Legato (selling their flour). By getting rid of Carolina, he gets rid of any credible stain over what he did to both Lola and Carolina. Good call! We have to wait an see if GG agrees with us or not.
Andres is still the most likely one to me also because with Damian out of the way, he can set Miriam aside (which he's succeeding in doing), get Raq to be his by hook or by force (using money to cover her expenses), and as Steve said, get the Big Chair and cover his criminal activities within Legato (selling their flour). By getting rid of Carolina, he gets rid of any credible stain over what he did to both Lola and Carolina. Good call! We have to wait an see if GG agrees with us or not.
Indeed. This series is still in production and we're not even at the halfway mark yet. There are different directions this could take.
Andres has the biggest motive so far and an accomplice with a motive: Miriam. I see Miriam's original plan as getting rid of Carolina so as to avoid a possible scandal but Andres has the hidden plan of also getting rid of Damian so he can easily push Miriam aside and take over the company, after which he plans to possess Raquel. He's laying the groundwork for that part right now.
However, Raquel is in a position to find out what he's been up to. While Azucena was helping Damian cover up his adultery she knows what a sleaze Andres is and now will be loyal to Raquel.
Andres has the biggest motive so far and an accomplice with a motive: Miriam. I see Miriam's original plan as getting rid of Carolina so as to avoid a possible scandal but Andres has the hidden plan of also getting rid of Damian so he can easily push Miriam aside and take over the company, after which he plans to possess Raquel. He's laying the groundwork for that part right now.
However, Raquel is in a position to find out what he's been up to. While Azucena was helping Damian cover up his adultery she knows what a sleaze Andres is and now will be loyal to Raquel.
Anon207---You make a good point. I totally didn't think that Nico and Lola could be still grieving their mother's death and that's one of the reasons why they don't approve of their dad's relationship with Raq.
It's typical for a telenovela to have someone else's (in most cases the villains) kid or kids stay with the main couple. Neither Santi or Raq would abandon Benjamin. If Caro didn't care about Benjamin to leave him behind then Damian didn't either.
It's typical for a telenovela to have someone else's (in most cases the villains) kid or kids stay with the main couple. Neither Santi or Raq would abandon Benjamin. If Caro didn't care about Benjamin to leave him behind then Damian didn't either.
I give Nico & Lola somewhat of a break because their mother just died and they've found out she was betraying their father with Damian. They know somebody killed Carolina and that people suspect Santiago. So when they see Santiago trying to get it on with Raquel when Carolina's body isn't even cold, perhaps they are suspicious of him and Raquel.
I also give Fede a break because his father is still alive & in the hospital while his mother gets her groove on with Santiago.
I would extend that same break to Mia; however she really doesn't want Raquel to be with Santiago OR Damian. She wants Damian to wake up & come back to stop Raquel from having sex with Santiago, yet she doesn't want Raquel to have sex with Damian either.
I also give Fede a break because his father is still alive & in the hospital while his mother gets her groove on with Santiago.
I would extend that same break to Mia; however she really doesn't want Raquel to be with Santiago OR Damian. She wants Damian to wake up & come back to stop Raquel from having sex with Santiago, yet she doesn't want Raquel to have sex with Damian either.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 4:59:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 4:59:00 PM EST
Because it just came up on my Youtube page, I thought I'd post a link to 10 Shocking Facts About Domestic Violence, which we need to think about vis a vis Lola and Juan.
Back to Fede and Mia, I think Miriam has brainwashed the girl and is working on the boy through her.
Back to Fede and Mia, I think Miriam has brainwashed the girl and is working on the boy through her.
Urban--I just watched the video. Each one of the facts on the list are well-known, but it's something that should be repeated and repeated.
We recently saw Santi (in the 3 years past) go though a meltdown where he was really furious about losing control of his family and put the blame square on Carolina for going out to work and "dressing up" and wearing make-up so any abuse she got she was asking for (although the abuse she claimed was street crime, it was really Andres assaulting her). Now that he was working long hours, he wanted her home with the (nearly adult) children and taking care of them and him. AND, he blamed Caro for not knowing what was going on with Lola and her over-age boyfriend.
We saw some evidence of his controlling nature earlier still when he didn't want Caro to go to work at the banquete at all and later didn't want Lola working when she should have been devoting 100% of her time to school. Yet, in the present, Lola is the major care-taker of Benji.
I don't want to call Santi an abuser, but there sure are indications that he can't control his anger at times. His anger seemed to get more explosive as she stood up to him.
Thank goodness that in my situation, my ex backed down when I started showing some spine. I did take the children and moved out. Again, fortunately for me, I had loving, supportive parents, something neither Carolina nor Santi seemed to have.
We recently saw Santi (in the 3 years past) go though a meltdown where he was really furious about losing control of his family and put the blame square on Carolina for going out to work and "dressing up" and wearing make-up so any abuse she got she was asking for (although the abuse she claimed was street crime, it was really Andres assaulting her). Now that he was working long hours, he wanted her home with the (nearly adult) children and taking care of them and him. AND, he blamed Caro for not knowing what was going on with Lola and her over-age boyfriend.
We saw some evidence of his controlling nature earlier still when he didn't want Caro to go to work at the banquete at all and later didn't want Lola working when she should have been devoting 100% of her time to school. Yet, in the present, Lola is the major care-taker of Benji.
I don't want to call Santi an abuser, but there sure are indications that he can't control his anger at times. His anger seemed to get more explosive as she stood up to him.
Thank goodness that in my situation, my ex backed down when I started showing some spine. I did take the children and moved out. Again, fortunately for me, I had loving, supportive parents, something neither Carolina nor Santi seemed to have.
You recappers are very are good at what you do.I dont how you do it,but you So good at it. Thank you Urban.
These people are crazy. They are kinda out there too. But Mia is a total nut job.
The language she uses with her mother,
That is just horrible.
I feel sorry for santi and Raquel. The
Spouses really messed them up.And what
Ever was wrong with the kids was made
Worst.O my gosh make it stop.Iam reall
Y lookin forward to the end of this ball of hot confusing mess. Makes you
Wonder if there will even bea happy endimg. You know, I can watch the rest of This show without ever seeing Mia ever Again. That girl makes me tired just Lookin at her. The actress is really good. Ok Im done.
THANK you Urban.
These people are crazy. They are kinda out there too. But Mia is a total nut job.
The language she uses with her mother,
That is just horrible.
I feel sorry for santi and Raquel. The
Spouses really messed them up.And what
Ever was wrong with the kids was made
Worst.O my gosh make it stop.Iam reall
Y lookin forward to the end of this ball of hot confusing mess. Makes you
Wonder if there will even bea happy endimg. You know, I can watch the rest of This show without ever seeing Mia ever Again. That girl makes me tired just Lookin at her. The actress is really good. Ok Im done.
THANK you Urban.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:23:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:23:00 PM EST
Thanks Urban, wonderful recap, as always.
Doesnt get better.
Anon, about Fede having drivers license.....I mentioned before that ge has voiced his anger towards Gabby, that he could kill her. Therefore under that sane sweet face could get even angrier if he discovered it was Caro, because she was the trusted friend who stabbed his mom in the back. If he said he wanted to kill Gabby, imagine his rage at Caro. He is my number 1 suspect. I also think Mia was abused by Andres.
Doesnt get better.
Anon, about Fede having drivers license.....I mentioned before that ge has voiced his anger towards Gabby, that he could kill her. Therefore under that sane sweet face could get even angrier if he discovered it was Caro, because she was the trusted friend who stabbed his mom in the back. If he said he wanted to kill Gabby, imagine his rage at Caro. He is my number 1 suspect. I also think Mia was abused by Andres.
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