Friday, January 05, 2018
Caer en Tentacion #54, 1/4/18: The Secret Not Even Santiago Knew
En el Pasado
A tearful Carolina confesses to Damian that it was her father who attempted the violation. He used to fondle her inappropriately when he got drunk. At the same time he would beat Vicente unmercifully. He never beat her. In fact, when he wasn't drunk, he was nice to her. He treated her like a princess. One night he showed up drunker than usual and it was obvious to both young siblings that he intended to attack Caro sexually. Vic intervened. He knocked out the dad and later dragged him away. His body was found in the river the next day. Everyone assumed he fell in because he was drunk. He did it to save her.
At Raquel's house, meanwhile, she and Santi continue their heart-to-heart talk about--who else, Caro. Santi feels Caro deserves someone better than he--he's just a simple man with an ordinary life and an ordinary household. Raq tries to dispel his impression by using the same words on him that three years later he would use with her, "If you could see yourself the way I do, from my perspective, you would see yourself differently. You are a man of great accomplishment."
No, he never got tired of her, but maybe she got tired of him. Raq, probably putting herself in Caro's place assures him that couldn't be so. Caro adores him. Santi says he adores Caro, too. Then Raq compares him to Damian, in a positive way. Dam had most of his way ahead handed to him, Santi on the other hand got ahead all on his own abilities. Santi tells Raq that Caro is no longer "there" and blames himself for not doing his part. He's embarrassed to admit he even has to ask Caro to have "relations" with him. They are too distant. She's already gone. They are just two different people, in two worlds they keep hidden. Raq asks if he's seeing someone else. He says no. As he does so, he looks at Raquel and sees someone different. Raq looks at him and sees another sort of man.
Upstairs, Mia is challenging Fede. Doesn't it bother him that Santi is in the house? Presumably for money. Fede replies, so what if he is, it's none of her business and yes, he already knew about the investment. It was the day he went to see Benji. Mia thinks he went because he likes Lola. He says no. Mia, the expert in sexology, tells him he's bisexual. She does get him to admit he hasn't had sex with either sex.
Dam is moved by Caro's story. He's surprised she never told Santi. He tells her he loves her and she responds. They kiss hungrily. Dam tells her he wants to stay close to his son and suggests Caro choose him to be Benji's godfather. That way he could be near him and give him all the things he would need. Caro doesn't know if that would work. She'll have to talk to Santi about it and he may have already chosen someone else.
Raq and Santi are still talking about Caro's distance. Raquel remembers her own post-partum days and decides it's all hormonal. Caro's just had a baby. He agrees and gets up to leave, but Raq persuades him to stay a little longer. She gives him a lecture in Interpersonal Relationships 101. It's up to them to take over the responsibility for the relationship and infuse it with some passion and pizazz to make it work again, otherwise the distance may lead to things breaking little by little and it allows others in and they fall into temptation. They sit there and reflect on what she's just said and look at each other again with a different look.
Epoca Actual
SinCin has made up an excuse regarding Santi's gun to have Nando stop by Raquel's house. He tells her she doesn't need an excuse any more. He moves closer and tells her he can't stop thinking about her. Unfortunately, just as he is about to give truth to those words, he gets a phone call from Tonio. He tells her he has to leave and she gives him a tiny kiss near his lips. He looks like he'd rather get fired than leave her, but he does his duty and heads for the office.
Raq and Santi have their coffee-hour break-up in the hospital. He doesn't understand why breaking up is a good thing. She just wants Mia to be well. He tells her he'll be there if or whenever she needs him, day or night, just call, send a message, even if they have to do it secretly. She asks him for time, but when she gets up to leave, she gives him a very meaningful open-mouth kiss, nuzzles him, kisses him gently on the forehead and says to be compassionate. [I know I heard her use the word compadesco, which if she said no me compadesco, it would mean I don't feel sorry for myself, so my translation isn't accurate, but I think in context it's ok.]
Azucena greets Miriam as she arrives at the Legato offices and tells her Rueda is waiting for her and no, Andres isn't in. Miriam says not to bother calling him. She greets Rueda and hopes his personal life will no longer interfere with her need for him. She states quite loudly, just as Azucena pops in, that she wants Rueda to move full speed ahead with getting custody of her grandson, the one her son had with that Carolina woman.
Lola is leaving Benji at a baby-sitter. Bebo is with her. She tells him she just let her dad know she is going back to the house and Bebo is with her. Sour Grape Face Juan is watching from afar, but not far enough for me.
A groggy Mia tells Nico she's glad he's there with her. Raq arrives at her daughter's hospital room. Fede explains that when she woke up, she asked for Nico. Raq pulls Nico aside and tells him she needs to know if anything happened between him and Mia (wondering perhaps if Nico was responsible for her near-fatal self-mutilation) and she wants the truth.
The police have gone to collect the gun the boys found in the underbrush. At least the father had the good sense to use a handkerchief before touching the gun. He also knew that they lived near a crime scene where the gun was never recovered. The police will want the boy's fingerprints to compare to any found on the gun. They assure the dad and the boy that the youngster is not under suspicion. Nando tells one of his underlings to run the serial number right away.
En el Pasado
Nando is at the model's apartment. He's telling Tonio he's there because she was very nervous. Tonio wants him at the office stat. All they have of this crime from the security cameras is a man with his face covered using his own keys to enter. He goes to tell Celia he's leaving some guards with her and finds her standing there naked. He's speechless. He does look but turns away and goes to stand in the hallway. She wants to talk to him. He says later.
Raq and Santi are still talking about marriage and relationships. They both think it's a little strange that he's the first male friend she's had and she's the first female friend he's ever had. He wants to leave but she asks him to wait until Dam comes home so they can further discuss the new business venture. She calls Dam but he can't answer because he has a mouthful of Caro. She makes him answer. He tells Raq he's on his way home and she tells him Santi is at the house with her. Bombshell--although he's three years too early, he wonders how Caro would feel if Raq and Santi were doing the same thing they're doing. Caro has the perfect answer--with a question--how would he feel, with the emphasis on the "he."
Epoca Actual
Nando gets back to the office. Nothing yet on the ballistics, but it is the same type of gun, a 9 mm used to kill Carolina. They have one clear fingerprint that doesn't belong to the boy. It's being processed. They're still working on the serial number. Nando and Tonio have different theories of where the results might lead them. Nando says if it belongs to Ignacio (Nacho), they have their killer, although he might not have been working alone. Tonio asks if Nando still thinks Santiago had something to do with it. He says yes, even knowing Santi is Tonio's friend. Tonio says they need to identify the print first, then Nando can speculate further all he wants.
Juan watches Bebo and Lola getting closer, smiling at each other. Bebo likes her but he doesn't want problems with her father. Lola wants him to stop thinking about her father and think about her. She's all coquette-ish with him and he begins to respond. They reach in for a very chaste kiss when Lola doubles over in pain. Bebo is concerned, but she won't go to the doctor for a simple stomach ache. Juan is seething with anger and jealousy as he watches them.
Raq quizzes Nico about his relationship with Mia. He says, frankly, he doesn't know where he stands with her. They tried, but it didn't work out. Raq knows Mia has a lot of problems but she doesn't want Nico to hurt her. He claims (somewhat untruthfully) that that was never his intention. There's the problem, Raq says because she knows he has a relationship with an older woman and never mind how she learned of it. That's the sort of thing that hurts people, she tells him. Nico throws it right back at her. Does she know what really hurts Mia? To see Raquel with his dad. Raq reflects and follows up with wanting to know how he feels. He would be ok with it under different circumstances, but his mother died very recently and regardless of what else she was, Caro was still his mother.
Laura is back on camera pushing her ratings with the latest poison on the Becker scandal. This time she pushes too far. She adds Cinthia to the mix. Bebo is free because Cinthia has admitted to taking her own sister's things and covering up for a disgraced former cop-drug dealer named Rafael Estrada who was brought down in a hostage situation at the Beckers house. She continues by announcing, with great glee that the paternity test of the last Alvarado child shows he is the son of Damian Becker (and she's oh, so loving this job). She wraps it up announcing the recovery of the murder weapon which might show Ignacio as the killer and Santiago Alvarado as the mastermind. Ba-Da-Boom!
Nando has come back to see SinCin, but she's furious with what his "wife" has done to them on the broadcast. SinCin thinks she's getting revenge on the two of them, using her family to do it. She wants him to go to her and convince her there's nothing going on between them. He will. They both calm down and Nando repeats his newest hypothesis that doesn't let Santi off the hook.
Lola is at home with Bebo. She's feeling better. Santi arrives home and Bebo leaves. Mia is better, but he's not. All this that's going on is just separating him from Raquel--and now it has been accomplished.
Nico shows up at work in yesterday's T-shirt. Alina is at first really angry. When it seems Nico has grown a little spine she sidles up to him seductively and says she likes him like that and moves in to kiss him. He doesn't respond and looks away. He must not be into her anymore.
Miriam and Rueda are discussing the latest findings in the Caro killing. They have to wait for results. Mimi tells Rueda to move ahead with the custody issue regardless. Rueda is interrupted by a call from Alina, which he takes. His offer is looking good. They need to talk. Later.
Santi shows up at the station to see Tonio. He's furious that the news announcer in implicating him just because a gun has been found with fingerprints. Santi loses his cool. He wants his wife's murderer found, so what is the hold up? Tonio says they're working as fast as they can. The fingerprint is the best evidence they have. Santi is still convinced Nacho had nothing to do with the murder. He can't take much more of this. Tonio understands. He says that once they find out who the gun belongs to, they can pretty much wrap it up. Santi leaves, but the look on his face tells us he is worried.
Bebo is out on the street asking for directions, looking for an address.
Andres offers Raq coffee at the hospital. They sort of make peace with each other, or at least they are civil with each other. She finds out that Mimi is already fighting for Benji's custody. Andres tells her he has an idea on how to stop her.
Oh lordy, tonight is must see TV.
A tearful Carolina confesses to Damian that it was her father who attempted the violation. He used to fondle her inappropriately when he got drunk. At the same time he would beat Vicente unmercifully. He never beat her. In fact, when he wasn't drunk, he was nice to her. He treated her like a princess. One night he showed up drunker than usual and it was obvious to both young siblings that he intended to attack Caro sexually. Vic intervened. He knocked out the dad and later dragged him away. His body was found in the river the next day. Everyone assumed he fell in because he was drunk. He did it to save her.
At Raquel's house, meanwhile, she and Santi continue their heart-to-heart talk about--who else, Caro. Santi feels Caro deserves someone better than he--he's just a simple man with an ordinary life and an ordinary household. Raq tries to dispel his impression by using the same words on him that three years later he would use with her, "If you could see yourself the way I do, from my perspective, you would see yourself differently. You are a man of great accomplishment."
No, he never got tired of her, but maybe she got tired of him. Raq, probably putting herself in Caro's place assures him that couldn't be so. Caro adores him. Santi says he adores Caro, too. Then Raq compares him to Damian, in a positive way. Dam had most of his way ahead handed to him, Santi on the other hand got ahead all on his own abilities. Santi tells Raq that Caro is no longer "there" and blames himself for not doing his part. He's embarrassed to admit he even has to ask Caro to have "relations" with him. They are too distant. She's already gone. They are just two different people, in two worlds they keep hidden. Raq asks if he's seeing someone else. He says no. As he does so, he looks at Raquel and sees someone different. Raq looks at him and sees another sort of man.
Upstairs, Mia is challenging Fede. Doesn't it bother him that Santi is in the house? Presumably for money. Fede replies, so what if he is, it's none of her business and yes, he already knew about the investment. It was the day he went to see Benji. Mia thinks he went because he likes Lola. He says no. Mia, the expert in sexology, tells him he's bisexual. She does get him to admit he hasn't had sex with either sex.
Dam is moved by Caro's story. He's surprised she never told Santi. He tells her he loves her and she responds. They kiss hungrily. Dam tells her he wants to stay close to his son and suggests Caro choose him to be Benji's godfather. That way he could be near him and give him all the things he would need. Caro doesn't know if that would work. She'll have to talk to Santi about it and he may have already chosen someone else.
Raq and Santi are still talking about Caro's distance. Raquel remembers her own post-partum days and decides it's all hormonal. Caro's just had a baby. He agrees and gets up to leave, but Raq persuades him to stay a little longer. She gives him a lecture in Interpersonal Relationships 101. It's up to them to take over the responsibility for the relationship and infuse it with some passion and pizazz to make it work again, otherwise the distance may lead to things breaking little by little and it allows others in and they fall into temptation. They sit there and reflect on what she's just said and look at each other again with a different look.
Epoca Actual
SinCin has made up an excuse regarding Santi's gun to have Nando stop by Raquel's house. He tells her she doesn't need an excuse any more. He moves closer and tells her he can't stop thinking about her. Unfortunately, just as he is about to give truth to those words, he gets a phone call from Tonio. He tells her he has to leave and she gives him a tiny kiss near his lips. He looks like he'd rather get fired than leave her, but he does his duty and heads for the office.
Raq and Santi have their coffee-hour break-up in the hospital. He doesn't understand why breaking up is a good thing. She just wants Mia to be well. He tells her he'll be there if or whenever she needs him, day or night, just call, send a message, even if they have to do it secretly. She asks him for time, but when she gets up to leave, she gives him a very meaningful open-mouth kiss, nuzzles him, kisses him gently on the forehead and says to be compassionate. [I know I heard her use the word compadesco, which if she said no me compadesco, it would mean I don't feel sorry for myself, so my translation isn't accurate, but I think in context it's ok.]
Azucena greets Miriam as she arrives at the Legato offices and tells her Rueda is waiting for her and no, Andres isn't in. Miriam says not to bother calling him. She greets Rueda and hopes his personal life will no longer interfere with her need for him. She states quite loudly, just as Azucena pops in, that she wants Rueda to move full speed ahead with getting custody of her grandson, the one her son had with that Carolina woman.
Lola is leaving Benji at a baby-sitter. Bebo is with her. She tells him she just let her dad know she is going back to the house and Bebo is with her. Sour Grape Face Juan is watching from afar, but not far enough for me.
A groggy Mia tells Nico she's glad he's there with her. Raq arrives at her daughter's hospital room. Fede explains that when she woke up, she asked for Nico. Raq pulls Nico aside and tells him she needs to know if anything happened between him and Mia (wondering perhaps if Nico was responsible for her near-fatal self-mutilation) and she wants the truth.
The police have gone to collect the gun the boys found in the underbrush. At least the father had the good sense to use a handkerchief before touching the gun. He also knew that they lived near a crime scene where the gun was never recovered. The police will want the boy's fingerprints to compare to any found on the gun. They assure the dad and the boy that the youngster is not under suspicion. Nando tells one of his underlings to run the serial number right away.
En el Pasado
Nando is at the model's apartment. He's telling Tonio he's there because she was very nervous. Tonio wants him at the office stat. All they have of this crime from the security cameras is a man with his face covered using his own keys to enter. He goes to tell Celia he's leaving some guards with her and finds her standing there naked. He's speechless. He does look but turns away and goes to stand in the hallway. She wants to talk to him. He says later.
Raq and Santi are still talking about marriage and relationships. They both think it's a little strange that he's the first male friend she's had and she's the first female friend he's ever had. He wants to leave but she asks him to wait until Dam comes home so they can further discuss the new business venture. She calls Dam but he can't answer because he has a mouthful of Caro. She makes him answer. He tells Raq he's on his way home and she tells him Santi is at the house with her. Bombshell--although he's three years too early, he wonders how Caro would feel if Raq and Santi were doing the same thing they're doing. Caro has the perfect answer--with a question--how would he feel, with the emphasis on the "he."
Epoca Actual
Nando gets back to the office. Nothing yet on the ballistics, but it is the same type of gun, a 9 mm used to kill Carolina. They have one clear fingerprint that doesn't belong to the boy. It's being processed. They're still working on the serial number. Nando and Tonio have different theories of where the results might lead them. Nando says if it belongs to Ignacio (Nacho), they have their killer, although he might not have been working alone. Tonio asks if Nando still thinks Santiago had something to do with it. He says yes, even knowing Santi is Tonio's friend. Tonio says they need to identify the print first, then Nando can speculate further all he wants.
Juan watches Bebo and Lola getting closer, smiling at each other. Bebo likes her but he doesn't want problems with her father. Lola wants him to stop thinking about her father and think about her. She's all coquette-ish with him and he begins to respond. They reach in for a very chaste kiss when Lola doubles over in pain. Bebo is concerned, but she won't go to the doctor for a simple stomach ache. Juan is seething with anger and jealousy as he watches them.
Raq quizzes Nico about his relationship with Mia. He says, frankly, he doesn't know where he stands with her. They tried, but it didn't work out. Raq knows Mia has a lot of problems but she doesn't want Nico to hurt her. He claims (somewhat untruthfully) that that was never his intention. There's the problem, Raq says because she knows he has a relationship with an older woman and never mind how she learned of it. That's the sort of thing that hurts people, she tells him. Nico throws it right back at her. Does she know what really hurts Mia? To see Raquel with his dad. Raq reflects and follows up with wanting to know how he feels. He would be ok with it under different circumstances, but his mother died very recently and regardless of what else she was, Caro was still his mother.
Laura is back on camera pushing her ratings with the latest poison on the Becker scandal. This time she pushes too far. She adds Cinthia to the mix. Bebo is free because Cinthia has admitted to taking her own sister's things and covering up for a disgraced former cop-drug dealer named Rafael Estrada who was brought down in a hostage situation at the Beckers house. She continues by announcing, with great glee that the paternity test of the last Alvarado child shows he is the son of Damian Becker (and she's oh, so loving this job). She wraps it up announcing the recovery of the murder weapon which might show Ignacio as the killer and Santiago Alvarado as the mastermind. Ba-Da-Boom!
Nando has come back to see SinCin, but she's furious with what his "wife" has done to them on the broadcast. SinCin thinks she's getting revenge on the two of them, using her family to do it. She wants him to go to her and convince her there's nothing going on between them. He will. They both calm down and Nando repeats his newest hypothesis that doesn't let Santi off the hook.
Lola is at home with Bebo. She's feeling better. Santi arrives home and Bebo leaves. Mia is better, but he's not. All this that's going on is just separating him from Raquel--and now it has been accomplished.
Nico shows up at work in yesterday's T-shirt. Alina is at first really angry. When it seems Nico has grown a little spine she sidles up to him seductively and says she likes him like that and moves in to kiss him. He doesn't respond and looks away. He must not be into her anymore.
Miriam and Rueda are discussing the latest findings in the Caro killing. They have to wait for results. Mimi tells Rueda to move ahead with the custody issue regardless. Rueda is interrupted by a call from Alina, which he takes. His offer is looking good. They need to talk. Later.
Santi shows up at the station to see Tonio. He's furious that the news announcer in implicating him just because a gun has been found with fingerprints. Santi loses his cool. He wants his wife's murderer found, so what is the hold up? Tonio says they're working as fast as they can. The fingerprint is the best evidence they have. Santi is still convinced Nacho had nothing to do with the murder. He can't take much more of this. Tonio understands. He says that once they find out who the gun belongs to, they can pretty much wrap it up. Santi leaves, but the look on his face tells us he is worried.
Bebo is out on the street asking for directions, looking for an address.
Andres offers Raq coffee at the hospital. They sort of make peace with each other, or at least they are civil with each other. She finds out that Mimi is already fighting for Benji's custody. Andres tells her he has an idea on how to stop her.
Oh lordy, tonight is must see TV.
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Anita, inspired and powerful.
"Mia, the expert in sexology" and "Sour Grape Face Juan is watching from afar, but not far enough for me" (which made me grin broadly) were but a few favorites.
"As he does so, he looks at Raquel and sees someone different. Raq looks at him and sees another sort of man" and "They sit there and reflect on what she's just said and look at each other again with a different look" were not seismic shifts but subtle cracks in the foundation of friendship, love and everything in between.
"Dam tells her he wants to stay close to his son and suggests Caro choose him to be Benji's godfather" clarifies (to me at least), Damian is and continues to be the (pursuer? aggressor?) here.
I’m so seldom right but I sensed instant Nando/Cin chemistry and “He looks like he'd rather get fired than leave her” mirrored exactly what I was thinking.
"She calls Dam but he can't answer because he has a mouthful of Caro". Perfect.
I love it that Miriam is an equal opportunity heartless beyotch evidenced by she "greets Rueda and hopes his personal life will no longer interfere with her need for him". Attempted murder did nothing to remove this ice queen from her throne.
I keep thinking that Vincente and Caro's early existence was culled from hell. I wonder how one survives. Perhaps the answer is that you don't. Vin survived physically, but the demons from those dark days continue to haunt him mentally. Caro seemed relatively unscathed but her tears last night indicated otherwise.
Steve, after seeing Juan watch Bebo and Lola, my thought was he is going to kill Bebo. I fervently hope I'm wrong.
Thank you for superb parts 1 and 2 Anita.
Diana
"Mia, the expert in sexology" and "Sour Grape Face Juan is watching from afar, but not far enough for me" (which made me grin broadly) were but a few favorites.
"As he does so, he looks at Raquel and sees someone different. Raq looks at him and sees another sort of man" and "They sit there and reflect on what she's just said and look at each other again with a different look" were not seismic shifts but subtle cracks in the foundation of friendship, love and everything in between.
"Dam tells her he wants to stay close to his son and suggests Caro choose him to be Benji's godfather" clarifies (to me at least), Damian is and continues to be the (pursuer? aggressor?) here.
I’m so seldom right but I sensed instant Nando/Cin chemistry and “He looks like he'd rather get fired than leave her” mirrored exactly what I was thinking.
"She calls Dam but he can't answer because he has a mouthful of Caro". Perfect.
I love it that Miriam is an equal opportunity heartless beyotch evidenced by she "greets Rueda and hopes his personal life will no longer interfere with her need for him". Attempted murder did nothing to remove this ice queen from her throne.
I keep thinking that Vincente and Caro's early existence was culled from hell. I wonder how one survives. Perhaps the answer is that you don't. Vin survived physically, but the demons from those dark days continue to haunt him mentally. Caro seemed relatively unscathed but her tears last night indicated otherwise.
Steve, after seeing Juan watch Bebo and Lola, my thought was he is going to kill Bebo. I fervently hope I'm wrong.
Thank you for superb parts 1 and 2 Anita.
Diana
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: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 11:22:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 11:22:00 AM EST
Part 3 is up.
As I watched the first time, it didn't seem like such an important episode. Then as I re-watched and started to write, I couldn't help seeing the subtle yet obvious changes in Santi's and Raq's relationship. Their comfort zone is widening, moving into a sphere where they need each other in order to understand what is going on around them. I'm so sorry Nico doesn't understand that. His father needs an adult to talk to, to be on his side. It happened to be Raquel and yes, the romantic and sexual attraction makes it more difficult, but that Pasado scene set up the need to rely on each other.
Interesting how Dam projected onto them what he and Caro are engaged in.
As I watched the first time, it didn't seem like such an important episode. Then as I re-watched and started to write, I couldn't help seeing the subtle yet obvious changes in Santi's and Raq's relationship. Their comfort zone is widening, moving into a sphere where they need each other in order to understand what is going on around them. I'm so sorry Nico doesn't understand that. His father needs an adult to talk to, to be on his side. It happened to be Raquel and yes, the romantic and sexual attraction makes it more difficult, but that Pasado scene set up the need to rely on each other.
Interesting how Dam projected onto them what he and Caro are engaged in.
Thanks Anita!
I wanna know what Andres’ game is. Is he really going to help Raquel or is he giving Miriam more ammo against Santiago.
What I found interesting about the conversation between Raquel and Santiago in the past is that Santiago practically opened the door for himself to suspect that Carolina could be cheating but he never walked through it. He knew that she was acting distant but blamed himself for it. Even if he didn’t know who she was cheating on him with until the accident there were signs he should’ve seen that she was even cheating at all.
I don’t think Santiago would agree to Damian being Benjamin’s godfather. Heck, I don’t even think Raquel would want to be his godmother. Damian doesn’t even see what a bad idea that is.
I saw both sides in Raquel and Nico’s conversation. However, if Mia keep pursuing Nico she’s gonna keep getting disappointed. He’s in too deep with Alina.
I almost laughed at the scene when Laura was reporting her latest findings. It was like an episode of Law & Order.
I wanna know what Andres’ game is. Is he really going to help Raquel or is he giving Miriam more ammo against Santiago.
What I found interesting about the conversation between Raquel and Santiago in the past is that Santiago practically opened the door for himself to suspect that Carolina could be cheating but he never walked through it. He knew that she was acting distant but blamed himself for it. Even if he didn’t know who she was cheating on him with until the accident there were signs he should’ve seen that she was even cheating at all.
I don’t think Santiago would agree to Damian being Benjamin’s godfather. Heck, I don’t even think Raquel would want to be his godmother. Damian doesn’t even see what a bad idea that is.
I saw both sides in Raquel and Nico’s conversation. However, if Mia keep pursuing Nico she’s gonna keep getting disappointed. He’s in too deep with Alina.
I almost laughed at the scene when Laura was reporting her latest findings. It was like an episode of Law & Order.
Anita, thank you so much for this awesome recap! Just a small correction: Carolina's dad never hit her, she said he treated her like his princess and that it was Vicente who took the vicious beatings.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:52:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:52:00 PM EST
TF--I was thinking the same thing about Andres in the last scene. I'm pretty sure he wants both. He's still holding out hope to get together with Raquel (after she ditched him for Dam way back when) and is willing to help, but still wanting to get in with Miriam to the tune of $$$$ and more of the business when Dam croaks.
If he doesn't start showing up at the office and at least pretending he's working in his office, he's going to lose Mimi's confidence--if not already. Doesn't he realize that? At least on this occasion it was to take advantage of Raquel's situation rather than off on another predatory lark.
If he doesn't start showing up at the office and at least pretending he's working in his office, he's going to lose Mimi's confidence--if not already. Doesn't he realize that? At least on this occasion it was to take advantage of Raquel's situation rather than off on another predatory lark.
Gracias, Anita.
The black and white flashback to Carolina's childhood was horrifying. Where the hell was Carolina's mother in all that? Did she die before the murder? Did she know and not care?
Was Alina getting off more on Sammy's youth and naivete or on having boinked his father in the past? She's a perv either way.
Juan is not out of the picture and will make major trouble for Lola tonight or Monday. I'm bracing myself for the worst.
As far as I'm concerned Laura can take a long walk off a short pier.
Fernando should just cut and run from Cinthia. She is unworthy of him and will cause him nothing but grief.
The black and white flashback to Carolina's childhood was horrifying. Where the hell was Carolina's mother in all that? Did she die before the murder? Did she know and not care?
Was Alina getting off more on Sammy's youth and naivete or on having boinked his father in the past? She's a perv either way.
Juan is not out of the picture and will make major trouble for Lola tonight or Monday. I'm bracing myself for the worst.
As far as I'm concerned Laura can take a long walk off a short pier.
Fernando should just cut and run from Cinthia. She is unworthy of him and will cause him nothing but grief.
PJJ--I did hear her say he treated her like a princess, but I could have sworn I heard her say, tambien me pegaba, rather than nunca me pegaba. I'll go back and listen again and change it if I can't make it out clearly.
BTW, did you understand what Raquel said/meant when she kissed Santi's forehead and used the word "compadesco?"
TF--I thought Laura's broadcast sounded like the 11 o'clock news on Univision.
Urban--If Caro & Vic's mother were still in the picture, I think the b&w flashback would have shown her. My guess is she's been dead awhile and these two kids were left to live with and grow up with an alcoholic father. Caro did say when he wasn't drunk he was nice.
Regarding Nando, if Celia is who he cheated with, he doesn't show much class in his choice of women--none of them deserve him, least of all his so-called wife. (I might volunteer, though, if I were decades younger.)
BTW, did you understand what Raquel said/meant when she kissed Santi's forehead and used the word "compadesco?"
TF--I thought Laura's broadcast sounded like the 11 o'clock news on Univision.
Urban--If Caro & Vic's mother were still in the picture, I think the b&w flashback would have shown her. My guess is she's been dead awhile and these two kids were left to live with and grow up with an alcoholic father. Caro did say when he wasn't drunk he was nice.
Regarding Nando, if Celia is who he cheated with, he doesn't show much class in his choice of women--none of them deserve him, least of all his so-called wife. (I might volunteer, though, if I were decades younger.)
Oh, and the fact that Alina went after Nico after Sammy tells me she likes them young and naïve. I think it was a feather in her cap to get it on with Sammy, knowing she'd done his father years earlier. It was probably Rueda who asked her to hire Sammy in the first place, otherwise, they wouldn't have come in contact with each other.
Anita- I recall her saying that he treated her like a princess and never hit her, but the same was not true of Vicente who could never do anything right and who would take brutal beatings from him.
I also think Andres is playing both women, he wants to get in with Miriam but also wants to make Raquel feel like he's helping her, while the only person he really wants to help is himself.
I also think Andres is playing both women, he wants to get in with Miriam but also wants to make Raquel feel like he's helping her, while the only person he really wants to help is himself.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 5, 2018 at 2:14:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 2:14:00 PM EST
Anita, you're totally right. Laura be working for Primer Impacto or something. Is that the only newsworthy story she can report on?
Thanks Anita!
I thought Nando had stopped feeding Laura info so how did she know about the gun? And why isn't the police department more concerned about these constant leaks? No matter who is indicted this has police misconduct all over it.
I've never seen a TN where the children have more serious problems than the adults. Lola has been drugged, raped, beaten and threatened. Mia cuts herself, was almost gang raped and now almost committed suicide. The boys have gotten off easy--confused sexuality and cougar sex.
I thought Nando had stopped feeding Laura info so how did she know about the gun? And why isn't the police department more concerned about these constant leaks? No matter who is indicted this has police misconduct all over it.
I've never seen a TN where the children have more serious problems than the adults. Lola has been drugged, raped, beaten and threatened. Mia cuts herself, was almost gang raped and now almost committed suicide. The boys have gotten off easy--confused sexuality and cougar sex.
A very important and well done Part 3 Anita.
"Tonio asks if Nando still thinks Santiago had something to do with it. He says yes, even knowing Santi is Tonio's friend". Although he seems to make questionable choices in his personal life, he seems fairly astute work wise.
"Raq reflects and follows up with wanting to know how he feels. He would be ok with it under different circumstances, but his mother died very recently and regardless of what else she was, Caro was still his mother" really touched me. I think it was honest and surprisingly insightful. I don't see Santi and Raquel together long term but if they are to have any chance at all, they must put their amorous feelings aside for the present. I don't believe people should live their lives for their children, but let's face it, these are extraordinary circumstances and overall, the four children run the gamut from mildly to severely troubled.
"Laura is back on camera pushing her ratings with the latest poison". You could see the psychotic glint in her eyes. Oh, and does anyone think that she was with Juan when Nando paid her a surprise visit?
"Bebo is out on the street asking for directions, looking for an address". I am very afraid for him. I think the connection between he and Lola is a real one. She doesn't need another loss and he seems like a great kid.
Can't wait for tonight. Thanks Anita!
Diana
"Tonio asks if Nando still thinks Santiago had something to do with it. He says yes, even knowing Santi is Tonio's friend". Although he seems to make questionable choices in his personal life, he seems fairly astute work wise.
"Raq reflects and follows up with wanting to know how he feels. He would be ok with it under different circumstances, but his mother died very recently and regardless of what else she was, Caro was still his mother" really touched me. I think it was honest and surprisingly insightful. I don't see Santi and Raquel together long term but if they are to have any chance at all, they must put their amorous feelings aside for the present. I don't believe people should live their lives for their children, but let's face it, these are extraordinary circumstances and overall, the four children run the gamut from mildly to severely troubled.
"Laura is back on camera pushing her ratings with the latest poison". You could see the psychotic glint in her eyes. Oh, and does anyone think that she was with Juan when Nando paid her a surprise visit?
"Bebo is out on the street asking for directions, looking for an address". I am very afraid for him. I think the connection between he and Lola is a real one. She doesn't need another loss and he seems like a great kid.
Can't wait for tonight. Thanks Anita!
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 5, 2018 at 3:50:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 3:50:00 PM EST
I've never seen a TN where the children have more serious problems than the adults. Lola has been drugged, raped, beaten and threatened. Mia cuts herself, was almost gang raped and now almost committed suicide. The boys have gotten off easy--confused sexuality and cougar sex.
Thank you Carvivlie! You put the perfect words to what I've been thinking but could not say.
Diana
Thank you Carvivlie! You put the perfect words to what I've been thinking but could not say.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 5, 2018 at 4:04:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 4:04:00 PM EST
Anita Muchas gracias, incredible how many details you are able to capture in your recaps.
As far as Celia being the person Nando cheated with, she is Laura named her a couple of episodes back, right before we were introduced to her character.
Diana: yes I agree that the kids have the most serious problems.
I forget who made a comment about Cinsin not being good enough for Nando, I disagree slightly because Nando is so unethical I think Cinsin is perfect for him.
As far as Celia being the person Nando cheated with, she is Laura named her a couple of episodes back, right before we were introduced to her character.
Diana: yes I agree that the kids have the most serious problems.
I forget who made a comment about Cinsin not being good enough for Nando, I disagree slightly because Nando is so unethical I think Cinsin is perfect for him.
PJJ-I finally went back and listened three times to what Caro was telling Dam about her father. Unfortunately, some of what she said was a voice over where we witness Vic being beaten and Caro screaming, so it's still not absolutely clear whether she said "tambien me golpeaba" or nunca me golpeaba," but this is what I heard. The first part is translated.
My father was an alcoholic. He was not always like that. When he was sober, I was like his princess. With my brother he was always the opposite. [Then we see the beating.] "Tambien a mi me golpeaba, pero me acariciaba de un modo en que un padre nunca toca __???___ y me daba mucho asco." OR, he also (beat me or didn't beat me) but he fondled me in a way in which a father should never touch (here I didn't get it at all--could she have said hembra?) and it made me nauseous.
I'm sure I at least heard, ".... a mi me golpeaba. Let's call it even. Both tambien and nunca work with the rest of the sentence. In case I'm wrong, I went ahead and changed the recap.
My father was an alcoholic. He was not always like that. When he was sober, I was like his princess. With my brother he was always the opposite. [Then we see the beating.] "Tambien a mi me golpeaba, pero me acariciaba de un modo en que un padre nunca toca __???___ y me daba mucho asco." OR, he also (beat me or didn't beat me) but he fondled me in a way in which a father should never touch (here I didn't get it at all--could she have said hembra?) and it made me nauseous.
I'm sure I at least heard, ".... a mi me golpeaba. Let's call it even. Both tambien and nunca work with the rest of the sentence. In case I'm wrong, I went ahead and changed the recap.
Thanks, Anita. Tried to stay up to watch last night, but fell asleep.
They both calm down and Nando repeats his newest hypothesis that doesn't let Santi off the hook.
He's so cute, but what a lousy cop Nando is. I can't believe he's sharing info with SinCin, but then he's done it with Laura too. He really is a fool.
They both calm down and Nando repeats his newest hypothesis that doesn't let Santi off the hook.
He's so cute, but what a lousy cop Nando is. I can't believe he's sharing info with SinCin, but then he's done it with Laura too. He really is a fool.
The problem with the whole situation in these two families is that the parents are letting their kids ride roughshod over them. This is never right and neither Raquel nor Santiago should be permitting this.
Nicolas and Lola can deal with it. So can Federico. Mia can't deal with anything. Like her abuela, Screaming Mimi, she only wants to share her own misery.
I agree that Andres is playing both Miriam and Raquel. He wants to steal the family fortune and the best strategy for that would be to distract the two of them by keeping them at each other's throats long enough for him to embezzle enough money to cripple the company. He is deluded enough to think he still can get Raquel if he gets Santiago out of the way but I'm sure Raquel would rather become a nun than be with Andres.
Nicolas and Lola can deal with it. So can Federico. Mia can't deal with anything. Like her abuela, Screaming Mimi, she only wants to share her own misery.
I agree that Andres is playing both Miriam and Raquel. He wants to steal the family fortune and the best strategy for that would be to distract the two of them by keeping them at each other's throats long enough for him to embezzle enough money to cripple the company. He is deluded enough to think he still can get Raquel if he gets Santiago out of the way but I'm sure Raquel would rather become a nun than be with Andres.
Good one, Urban! In reviewing episode %7, that is exactly what Andres and Rueda were discussing--or a close variation.
Anita: To fill in your blanks a little Caro says "...un padre nunca toca a una hija" then continues by saying one night her father came home more drunk than usual and she knew something was different then he proceeded to unbutton his pants and pin her on the couch (as the flashback shows) then Vicente comes in the room and gets their father off of her and starts hitting him.
UA: Of course Andres wants to loot the family fortune for his own benefit because well he has that thirst for POWER!
TF--That's quite a revelation, because that's not what we saw on US broadcast TV. I just watched it (again) and in the flashback, we see the father coming at her and immediately the next scene is a close-up of Vic with a bloody nose and then holding his sister while the voice over continues without a glitch. For all the scenes of rape and near-rape covered in this telenovela, our heavy-handed censors don't think we could take a graphic scene of an attempted rape in a flashback? Or how the rape was avoided? WE AREN'T PRUDES. Either that or they have to find 3-4 minutes to cut because Marido keeps running over.
Niece--Yes, Nando is the weakest link in this whole story as it unfolds. His loose lips may even spill what the police know to the real killer, who can then manufacture a tight little alibi, or kill someone else to save him/herself. Oy vey.
PJJ--I replayed it one more time--This time I DID hear what you said. A mi no me golpeaba pero....Whew, I'm glad that's over. It's been pickling my brain all afternoon.
Anita—I totally forgot how that scene played out for us. Found the full clip on YouTube. But I guess it’s no surprise that Uni censored it. And I agree. Given CET’s time slot I highly doubt young kids under the age of 13 are watching.
Thanks Anita. I'm late but gets a a little sohum sohum. All the plotting and lying and gaming Jets gets darker and darker. Now mimi knows good and well she don't want that child.She'll
Just turn him into a worse child of hell than herself and damian.
Raquel can't blame Mic for Mia's messy
Life. That was happening before Nick
Came on the scene. It just got worse
Afterwards.Ok now I gotta read friday
Nights recap.
Just turn him into a worse child of hell than herself and damian.
Raquel can't blame Mic for Mia's messy
Life. That was happening before Nick
Came on the scene. It just got worse
Afterwards.Ok now I gotta read friday
Nights recap.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 4:54:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 4:54:00 PM EST
Ok one more time" I know I'm late with this but here's a little something something for this recap, "all the plotting and lying and manipulating just gets darker and darker" is
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What it was suppose to read. I do Not
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Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 4:59:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 4:59:00 PM EST
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