Saturday, April 21, 2018
Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 67, Friday, April 20, 2018; Noel tells Fabian that Renée is his sister!
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In Anifer's defense, I submit that kids are by instinct very selfish. I believe it is a built in survival instinct which programs them to look out for number one. What Anifer really wants (for herself) is a stable, loving family with her Father and Mother. That is hard to argue with, so do I. Renee is cute as a button, I wish her the best of luck in her travels far far from Mau and Anifer finding herself. But something that lost may never be found. Ironically, she is probably better off with some distance between herself and her Father and Brother. Yuck ! As in don't stand too close to a fire ant mound, you know?
I am surprised Jorge can walk with those things that way. Banging Kika seems to have given him cajones the size of pumpkins, as he is ready to mix it up with HotRod. ? ? ? ? How many question marks does that need.? Count your blessings Homophobe Hombre, if things were different Kika would be shagging HotRod, not you. From a straight guy's perspective, we wish Mau were playing for the other team too.
Tonot<-------------->Vero-------yawn. Who'd a thunk it.zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kika, Kika. When she is bad she is BAD. But when she is good, she is Helluva good. "Well, yeah, Georgy Boy, we talk about you every day." I know there is little truth in this, but my Grampa always said, "If you see two hens talking, they are talking about a rooster." Have we ever seen Cait and Kik talking about anything else? Had a real Hee Haw with Mau busting Jorge over Kika calling with his Kika Boom, Kika Boom boom, and his little cheer. Very realistic view of the way guys really are. Like "The secret Life of Actual Normal Guys".
And I was quite struck by Abuelita's lament:
" I’m so tired of everything and I have found that even the walls are more considerate of me than he is."
I think that is what is at the root of many unhappy marriages--BOTH partners feel unappreciated. The love and affection, the appreciation and support, which flow so naturally the first few years gradually begins to dry up. Before long spouses are keeping a catalog of the other's faults rather than their virtues. [Except for our lucky Susanlynn and Hub! But that's another story. You go guys!]
Along with the end of episode shocker, I was appalled at the Machiavellian (and uber sophisticated) snares that Anifer is trying to set. Seems creepy and very inappropriate. Although perhaps a reminder that children, like adults, can be very selfish and disloyal. Renée has been a mother to her all this time that Maria was away...and now Ani is kicking her to the curb! Wow. Just wow.
Wonderful recap Cynthia. Appreciate the screen caps, the "red reactions" and the smooth writing.
She is being a shrewd little manipulator, but this is a 7 year old toy designer. The sharpest knife in the drawer.
I laughed at "Haven't you ever kissed a guy before?" Like No, Ani, your RealFather and I never kissed, it was very clinical.
Did you notice Noel even has a model of the cul-de-sac, complete with the gazebo and the correct color paint on the building?
Good Morning.
”Toño goes to him his mom a hug and she pushes him away because he will spill her coffee.”
This really bothered me. Why would she reject his hug, because really, that is what it was. I would have moved the coffee and gone right into a hug from my son!
Jorge mouthing “for-ma-li-zing?” was a hoot.
Too bad Noel did not hit Fab again, and again, and again, with his cane. Just sayin’…
And no, Kirby, I did not notice that scale model of Renee’s house & cul de sac. Creeeepy! ( good eye for detail, KJ)
I could not stand the condescending behavior of Vero’s potential boss.
Toño as Vero’s assistant. Um, no.
The look on Mau’s face when he heard Ariel’s voice was right out of SNL’s “The Californians”. ;-)
” Very realistic view of the way guys really are. Like "The secret Life of Actual Normal Guys".”
Awww, I miss “The Man Show.” lol
Hope Renee doesn't join #MeToo after Ariel's kiss. Hey girl, he's cute and sortof a hottie. Love the one you're with?
Noel, Fabian's Father claims that Renee's Mom was the only woman who actually loved him, her whole life.
Fabian appears to be older than Renee
Noel blames Fabian for "killing" his wife in childbirth.
Then:
Noel's wife, Fabian's Mom was already dead when Renee was concieved.
Then:
Why didn't he just marry her and problem solved.
So, first things first. Cynthia, another superb recap replete with your fantastic signature screen shots.
"Rafa is still not sold on adopting Jorge’s grandchild because it will be nothing but trouble". Yes, go with that instinct. Please.
"Jorge dejectedly says, “I’m a very bad father.” Yes. And calling Rod “senorita” was adding insult to injury. What happened to your appreciation when Rod helped rescue your runaway daughter?? You climb and then you fall. Grow up.
“Do you want to see your new office? It’s near the restroom because I know ladies like to be near a mirror to fix themselves up.” Charming. And the actor always seems to play an unappealing character as this seems certainly destined to be.
I think many romantic relationships survive (even sometimes thrive) only as the result of very hard work. Committment, dedication, kindess, consideration, give and take and communication. Love is usually a factor as well. You might dig deeper, give and forgive more when strong emotions are involved. Unless I've missed deep declarations of love and yearning, Renee and Mau have a very small foundation from which to build. They became friends but I'm not convinced they ever left the friend zone. Sometimes solid frienship can work. I'm not sure it will here.
Renee is the type of woman to wait by the phone while Maria will make the call and set a date. To his credit, Mau seems invested in Renee but I'm not sure there's enough to keep him there. Maria is coming onto Mau openly and it's obvious she doesn't think Renee is any sort of impediment.
I'm disappointed that Anifer has so quickly forsaken Renee. "...Alhough perhaps a reminder that children, like adults, can be very selfish and disloyal" said it all Judy.
Yes! Parent trap doris. Conniving little Hayley Mills. Great.
Kirby, perhaps Renee is better off - far away from her monstrous father and brother. Her lukewarm romance is not enough reason for her to stay.
I also enjoyed the Mau/Jorge scene.
I felt sad seeing Flor so sick.
I am hoping the writers have fun with the Tono/Vero work pairing and go for laughs rather than simply supplying another platform for them to bicker.
"Did you notice Noel even has a model of the cul-de-sac, complete with the gazebo and the correct color paint on the building?" No Kirby. What a sharp eye you have.
Cynthia, thank you, thank you.
Diana
Exactly. His pants aren't bursting out in flames (thank you KJ) when he kisses Renee. Ho-hum.....yawn.
There is more fire between Vero & Toño than these two.
Too funny:
Verónica being Toño’s boss at the new job. They cannot escape each other.
Jorge mouthing: Formalizando. (Formalizing his relationship with Kika) no escape for him. Ha!
Unbelievable:
Renée was going to stay a few more days to help a guy she barely knows? Too naïve.
Psycho time:
Noel was sure fast with his cane. So Fabián got physical abuse and emotional abuse as a child.
Understandable:
Esperanza has had it all of these years feeling ignored. Not all relationships are meant to last a lifetime.
Predictable:
Anifer wants her mother and father to be together. Since It looks like Mauricio is going to end up with Renée, I predict she will end up with her mother.
That is all for now.
Does Renee still have Loopy's number?
"Understandable:
Esperanza has had it all of these years feeling ignored. Not all relationships are meant to last a lifetime".
Well said Jarifa. Well said.
Diana
I actually remembered that in La Malquerida, Acacia went to visit Esteban in jail at the end, sporting a cold shoulder top. I referenced it in what I think was my last recap which was in January of 2015.
It seems to have taken a while to catch on.
Diana
I completely understand Anifer being her selfish little kidself, but I STILL DON"T LIKE IT! Maria should have given her a firm "No!" or "Stop!" but then we all know Maria probably enjoyed it and appreciated what Ani was doing. That's all I have to say about that :-)
Noel seems very schizo and is obsessed with manipulating everyone and everything. In a previous episode, Falcon alluded to his mental health, I wonder if Noe got to the point of being committed. Renee was very lucky to have been raised away from from him. Kirby, I agree that Renee is much better off staying away from her "La Mafia"...and even from everyone else. I would wish that she would start a new life in the US, but we all know she is somehow supposed to end up with the so-called galan of the TN. (Memories of VEA flickering again).
Kirby, it was my understanding that Renee had only gone to Maryland to straighten out the mess with her name and keep her slot for the master's program. What I didn't understand is why they are going to make the other three candidates defend their projects again.
Jorge has been have his good moments (thanks to Kika) but boy he can really revert to his old self up really fast.
Flor's condition seems to have deteriorated quite quickly. I din;t like how Maria was looking so suspiciously at those bruises Flor has.
Ya'll have given realistic reasons for why Anifer's doing what she's doing. But still, little girls should stay out of grown folks' business and right now I'm sick of Anifer. Mom and Pop, especially Mau, need to shut down her busybodyness.
Renee sure hit the lottery in a bro and dad (not!). Kirby, thanks for doing the math. That's right, why did crazy pop marry Renee's mom since his wife was already dead? Poor Renee's mom, turning down that real nice guy Renee hunted down for this loco.
Wow, Tono will work for Veronica. I see them re-lighting the fire.
Wowee wow !!! The patio has really been chatty this morning!!..I loved all the smart and snappy comments.
Doris , the original "Parent Trap" was one of my all time favs. I used to watch it from time to time on TCM, but they do not show it anymore.
Speaking of shoulders....I watched The Rock on "The Graham Norton Show" last night. Wow...sitting on a sofa with normal sized people...now those our shoulders.
Kirby...I think most college semesters run about 13 weeks.
Sunny but cool here. Have a good weekend , everyone.
Kirby..I did not notice Crazed Noel's model of the cul de sac. Does he make those models himself? Creepy.
Hey, great idea! have him come to work for Nerón's vulcanizadora. That would bring in a lot more customers of the female variety I can tell you!
Judy,temporarily distracted from getting everything ready for birthday dinner
Judy, what's for birthday 🎂 dinner ?
Trying to multitask while posting here.....focus.
"..why didn't crazy pop" read what I meant, not what I said.
Shoulders
So how are cold shoulders like a Titmouse?
Cold shoulders never actually look cold and a Titmouse is not a mouse, but a bird.
Gawd, just exhausted thinking about it!
Judy (preparing to vacuum stupid dark green carpet that shows every speck of lint!)
Let's all pray the favorite Son in Law doesn't get the slice of cake with the pantyhose in it.
:-)
Mauricio should have definitely answered with a resounding "NO" when Anifer asked him if he and Maria were novios. His, well ...umm.... don't concern yourself with this subject ...just leaves it wide open for Anifer to interpret (and spread the word) things as she wants to.
Did Jorge borrow money for the coperativa from Lili and Baldo's trust? He was looking mighty suspicious and uncomfortable the other day when he was going through the paperwork. Is that why he considers himself a bad father? Up until now, he's been thinking he knows best. Being a lawyer, maybe he found a way to get past whatever protective restrictions were placed on the trust fund. That would be horrible if he did that.
I don't think Noel ever meant to be end game with Renee's mother. I noticed he said, "She was the only woman who ever really loved me" and not, "She was the only woman whom I ever really loved!"
I almost got the impression that he says it as if she loved him and he wished he had loved her back, but didn't.
Either way, he and his son just need to die. Where's DaniLowIQ?
Looks like Jorge will use the kids' trust money for the co-op, thus creating more drama when they are eligible to cash it out and, whoops! it's not there!
So, anvils for:
Fabian
Noel
Maria
Judy, that sounds like quite a delicious dinner. It reminds me of Sunday dinners at my parent's farm. I do not cook much anymore.
We can send Yoli to Andy or Kirby; I'm sure she'll get the anvil they can gladly provide :-)
Unless she can convince me otherwise
Somehow or Another
#allthingsarenotmonetary
#isthatanounoraverb.
Fabian
Noel
Maria (although she is not a real "baddie", just inconvenient)
Falcon
Juan Perez
Dulce
Lupe (if he shows up again)
Yes, she floats. #built-ins 🎈🎈
Maria will come off the anvil list. She really has not done anything bad. Yet. Lusting for Mau does not count. Nopis. Just means she is alive and not blind. lol
Well, skulking around in there with only Fabian for thirty years pretending to be dead gives a crazy old fart a lot of model-building time.
When you can, please let us know how you are doing.
So Fab and his dad are both total nut jobs. How far back does the evil planning go? I don't think it really makes sense for it to be in the planning for as many years as it must have been. Sometimes I have to remind myself that TN writers are omnipotent. If they say gravity stops for a second every night at midnight, it does. Just don't be on a mountain top at midnight.
If they say that Esperanza the Spitfire has been ignored and underappreciated by her husband all these years, then she has. I guess.
When was Vero job hunting? Did I miss that?
I'm going to have to get a little Virgin of Guadalupe thing and light a candle for Flor.
andy
Send her to me, Chickie. I have it on good authority that Kirby is saving himself for Esmeralda Pimentel, in tight jeans or otherwise.
:-)
andy
:-)
:-)
:-)
Now where's that bucket?
I do not want Maria to die, but if she is alive, Maury cannot be Ani's daddy and they are truly daughter and father the way they have bonded. We will have to wait and see.
Thank you to my fellow recappers too! I never did get to comment last week to tell you what a fabulous job you are doing. So to Jarifa, Alfredo and RGV Chick, please excuse me for being AWOL.
Okay, now for my comments on Friday’s episode: I am confused because I saw Vero quit her job, but I didn’t see her look for another job or get hired by this other place. And I guess Vero or Toño don’t talk to each other about where they are being hired to work! Seems to me this is one of those “small talk” things between a husband and wife. “Oh so you quit your job? So where did you put in your applications? So where are you interviewing?” Or…” I got a new job! I’ll be working at the XYZ company as an IT Manager.” “Oh really? I interviewed there too. I’m supposed to be the assistant to the IT Manager. You think…..????”
I am getting really tired of Anifer’s precociousness. I guess no one teaches her not to meddle in the lives of adults and to mind her own business. They treat her like an adult in a child’s body. I prefer child characters who act like children with a child’s feelings. I liked Diego from “Ramón” and “Bobby” from “Vino.”
So will Renée finish her master’s program or what? I’m glad she didn’t let Ariel get away with popping that kiss on her.
I too, am wondering how Jorge came up with the money to invest in the cooperative. I hope to God he did not take it from his children’s trust!
As for Lili and Pablo, I am surprised that they decided to give their baby away to Rod and Rafa. This is not like giving away a puppy to a good home. I don’t think Lili understands the seriousness of this decision of sentencing her baby to a life deprived of a mother’s love, a mother’s understanding, and a mother’s touch. Lili herself feels lost without her own mother since Yuri died. If she would stop to think about what she is doing she would have not made this decision. I hope that she and Pablo change their minds on down the line and decide to keep their baby and raise it themselves. But they both need to grow up first. And yes it can work. I know a girl I went to high school with. She got pregnant in her sophomore year. She got married to her 18 year old boyfriend. It did work, they loved each other and had more kids. They are still married today and have been married for 45 years.
I also know girls who got pregnant in high school, married the daddy , and are still together . I guess that it depends on the circumstances and the people involved. It helps to have a supportive family . Everyone has to keep what is best for the baby in mind.
Kirby, that is an amazing photo.
Am sending many thoughts and prayers your way.
I too hope that Lili and Pablo reconsider and decide to keep their child. They have many who will support them as well as Lili's stubborn father who I suspect will become a doting grandfather.
Diana
I'd say 75% talent and a 25% for the cooperative subject.
I'm speechless.
Diana
Kirby, thank you for the pretty picture. The bird pictures are nice too.
Rgv Chickie, thanks for thinking of me when you were deciding where to send Yolanda for her penance... um, I guess.
:-)
andy
RE: Yoli: Andy I had taken it that you were the administrator, if you will, to see that that little Yoli Brat learned her lesson. You may need to get her some more durable work clothes. But what do I know.?
My heart goes out to them, RifRaf, not so much.
Sunny and warm here...spring at last ?
".spring at last ?"
Bait and Switch I'll betcha.
Thank You JudyB, glad to contribute something. With the Eagles gone for a while, I'll photograph a Moth if it flies by now. :-)
#desperate
We were all wondering if Noel's wife was dead when he and Renee's Mom made Renee, (Fab appears to be older than Ren) why Noel didn't openly court Renee's Mom, as she supposedly Luuuurved him more than anyone.
FOREVER........apparently to her grave.
But then the old fool may have been as cray cray back then as he is now. Has it dawned on Renee that her Mom is full of surprises now that she is dead? BTW did Renee not ever press her Mom for answers to any of this sh_t growing up, or as a young adult?
I had to pry what little I wanted to know about my bio dad out of my maternal GrandMother, bless her heart. I got that ironed out as a Freshman or Soph in college and put it to rest forever. Renee, I don't know, she is a little flaky.
I used to hear rumors about how my Grandpa btutally beat his sons, (my uncles) as I was growing up, but had my hands full avoiding my own and never dug into it.
I think famalies were just as dysfunctional and messed up long ago, if not more so, they just didn't talk about it and didn't have FarceBoink like today.
Buggy whips? I remember my Loony Mom decided to use MY OWN bull whip on me one day when I was about a teenager. I actually overpowered her and took it away from her. I remember telling her if she was set on my needing punishment I'd gladly help her pick out a nice peach tree switch, but the whip was off limits. By that time I was already plotting my escape, and felt independent. :-)
Sorry
Hey, back to our show, they sure seem to have Flor fading fast. Is she doomed? Or are they playing with us, only to resurrect her off her deathbed with a misdiagnosis which looks like Leukemia but is only severe indigestion?
I was under the impression Leukemia was much slower. One of my neighbors supposedly (according to her children) had leukemia, but didn't know it, as she had directed her kids and doctors to not tell her if it was something fatal. She, BTW was 96 years old, and died peacefully a couple months ago. A sweet sweet sweet lady.
She still drove herself to the grocery store, but after the boys at the store putting her food in her car, she would call me to get the milk and water and other heavy things out. She weighed about 88 or 89 pounds.
As to Flor, I hope that the writers do not kill off this spicy, young mother.
'Sit'
'Bark'
'Rollover'
'Shake'
"Quit it! Are you crazy?'
:-)
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