Thursday, April 26, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 4/26/18 Chapter 38 Jueves: Entitlement



Chapter 38: Entitlement
I'm Christopher Mason. Divorce and death bring out both the best and the worst in people. It is often a litmus test for both virtues and sins. From some it brings sympathy and compassion and for others it only brings out their sense of Entitlement.
  • Marcia saw the dead body of her husband in a pool of blood after his suicide by gunshot. She became nearly hysterical with grief and needed to be held back by Roberto and Ricardo. Roberto got her out of the room, leaving Ricardo there. He knelt on the floor and moved toward the body of the godfather who had been a second father to him where he cried out in grief.


  • The grieving lawyer was not aware that at the same moment his Machiavellian ex-wife was up to her usual tricks using her children as bait.
  • Elena and Natalia had returned from Natalia's dance recital and Elena buttered up her daughter with praise, leading up to instructing her on how to get more attention from Ricardo because – in the Gospel According to Elena – Ricardo might otherwise find another woman and therefore forget her once he had children with a new wife. Natalia answered that she would tell him how much she loved and missed him. Elena praised her and Natalia then talked about then asking to go out for ice cream.
  • In family court, the judge handed down his final decision in the Tejeda case. After reviewing all the depositions and other documentation he ruled that Augustín Tejeda was to have custody of his son and the requested child support was to be paid by his ex-wife, Lorenza. She had been seething through the judge's statement and began to protest when the judge ruled that her salary would be garnished for this money.
  • Could Mexico now be following Germany's example so that there are no deadbeat parents? Is this social progress or evidence of a societal ill?
  • The judge adjourned the case and Lorenza exploded in a most declassé manner. She charged over to the plaintiff's table and slammed her purse on it, screaming that she was robbed of her son, that this was unjust.
    Her lawyer failed to control her and she had to be removed from the courtroom by police. Augustín thanked Gustavo.
  • Roberto went back into the room to find Ricardo grieving. He told Ricardo that the coroner's office would be picking up the body shortly, before rigor mortis would set in. Ricardo asked him how Marcia was and Roberto answered that she was a little calmer. Ricardo was feeling guilty about what he thought he did or did not do that led to this. Roberto assured him that he was not responsible, then told him he would take care of the legal aspects of this situation while Ricardo took care of Marcia. Ricardo thanked him.
  • Outside the courtroom Augustín shook Gustavo's hand again. He had previously been concerned about the outcome of the case but Gustavo assured him that at his firm the rights of the child are first priority. Lorenza came out with insult after insult, including casting aspersions on Augustín's abilities as a lover. Her lawyer tried to restrain her, but she waved him off with another insult and then threatened Augustín with going after him again in court and taking every cent he had. She hated being compared to his mother! He told her she was being selfish and was no longer the woman he had married. She accused him of selfishness and said that was alright because now she wouldn't ever have to look at his face. She pushed past her lawyer, who was obviously embarrassed at her behavior.
  • Victoria and Olivia had been talking about the result of her television interview about The Rat With No Name, the thief who had stolen from her. Victoria was happy for her, saying that she could now concentrate on herself and her work Olivia had gotten over the fear from the attack, but was plagued by a new fear, that of ending up alone. She talked about her dream of having a family. Victoria said she would, in time. Olivia was sure she would not meet a man with the same life-plan, but Victoria told her that science provides the means for her to have a family without a man. Her cell phone then rang. It was Roberto with the tragic news about Joel.
  • The wheels of justice took a detour as Fanny went to Carlos' office regarding the developments in her case. He knew she wanted the sentence appealed. She told him that she wanted to see Alberto spend many years in prison. He pointed out that there was evidence of motive and that Alberto had perjured himself in his deposition. And that he wasn't smart enough to have committed the perfect crime.
  • The coroner zipped up the body bag as Marcia watched. She began crying. Ricardo embraced her as they talked about how Joel had always loved him like a son and how much they would both miss him.
  • Fanny told Carlos that Alberto didn't know that she had all the information in Ramón's computer; Carlos told her to e-mail everything to him. As he handed her his business card she explained that the business arrangements regarding the company ownership were being handled by Gustavo. She was still absorbing the idea that such betrayal could happen between partners and friends. Carlos made ironic comments on this. He told her that her case would be expensive but that his office had the best lawyers and would succeed in the case.
  • Victoria and Olivia told Leonardo and Juan the tragic news. Leonardo got up from his desk and put on his jacket. Juan told the ladies he could help expedite the process by talking to people he knew in the coroner's office. He took his briefcase and they all left.
  • Ricardo was with Marcia, who was talking about not wanting to go on living. He got her to calm down a little and they talked about Joel's wishes with regard to his death. He wanted to be cremated and his ashes interred with those of his parents. She was concerned with what his children would say and Ricardo told her he would take care of that. She didn't want any more problems. He said he would help and she thanked him for not leaving her alone.
  • Of course, there are also people who use death as an opportunity to further their own ends, even if they don't stand to inherit anything.
  • Elena called Ricardo as he was initiating the funeral process. She asked about Joel and was shocked at the news of his suicide. She obviously knew him and what he had meant to Ricardo. She offered her help, which he declined. He asked her to explain his absence to Natalia and she asked when the funeral was being held. He replied that it would depend on when the body was released and he would let her know.
    When she ended the call she knew what her next move was going to be. Ricardo put the documents on the back of the couch and knelt before the cross in the chapel.
  • Alejandra returned to the office and received the tragic news from Carmen. Everyone else had gone to Ricardo's aid. Carmen told her that Ricardo was at the funeral home and where it was.
  • Juan went to the pathologist's office, but this time was not in his usual mode as Detective Columbo. He asked – as a personal favor – if he would prioritize the release of Joel Muníz's body, as the family was devastated. The pathologist told him that everything takes its own time and he had to comply with appropriate legal procedures. As the deceased was a senior citizen there could be things to look for. Juan promised not to harass him any more if he did that. He told him that he would do everything possible.
  • There are also those who use such opportunities to humiliate others.
  • Carlos handed Fanny's file to Alan to handle the case. He told him that she had been referred to him by Roberto, who had been a fool who had fallen into a trap in the original case and got a murderer off scot free. He told him that this was an appeal of the original case. Alan had been under the impression that El Ciego was their only client but Carlos told him that his career and his firm couldn't depend solely on anyone.
  • Elena and Leticia spoke about Ricardo. Leticia was the only one at the office at that moment as she had too much work and there was nothing she could do to help. She did tell Elena to console Ricardo because she would know how.
  • Alejandra went to the funeral home and found Ricardo crying in the chapel. He looked up at the sound of her voice and they embraced. Ricardo appeared to be in the second stage of grief, his pain was that great. Alejandra told him she would be there for him.
  • Juan came running out of the courthouse to tell the others that the body had been released; all he had to do was ask. The others were grateful, emphasizing what this meant to Ricardo. Roberto called Ricardo to tell him and when he was off the phone they all left for the funeral home.
  • Alejandra brought Ricardo a cup of tea and told him that later they would give him the time of the cremation. Roberto had just called him. Ricardo did not want to see Joel's children or even talk to them, he was that angry. He asked Alejandra to call Marcia. She agreed, and embraced him again.
  • Later that evening Carlos was still at the office, complaining to Alan that Alejandra had not called him. He tried to call but it went straight to her voicemail. Alan speculated that she might be busy at work or maybe there had been an emergency. Carlos decided to call Paula but Alan told him to wait. He excused himself so he could get back to work and Carlos tried calling again.
  • Even when indoors, death can bring vultures.
  • The mourners gathered at the funeral home. Alejandra assured Ricardo that Marcia was a bit better and he was not to worry. An older gentleman expressed his condolences to Ricardo.
    Elena arrived at that moment in a form-fitting black dress more suitable for a party than a funeral. She made a beeline for Ricardo and embraced him deliberately in front of Alejandra, bringing up her left hand to show that she still wore her wedding ring.
  • Carlos became increasingly impatient at Alejandra's not answering her phone.
  • Alejandra excused herself and went into the next room. Elena made a show of sympathy and said she could not understand why this happened. Ricardo said that Joel had to have been upset about the house but he was still trying to understand it. Elena decided to play The Sympathetic Wife, saying that he wasn't alone, he had her and the kids, and that “together” they would get through this. He asked about Natie and she told him she had explained his absence from the recital and Natie was understanding. She then went on about all of them going to the movies and other Family Things and he yessed her, then asked where the children were. She told him they were with the nanny and he was not happy about this. He didn't want them left with a nanny for extended periods of time. They started to sound like they were still married. She said she just wantedd to know how he was. Same line about being there for him. Alejandra saw her hug Ricardo and he realized she had seen this.
    Carlos called and she answered this time. He asked what was going on and she told him. He asked if she wanted him there and she told him she didn't. She said they would see each other another day. He gave up and ended the call.
    Alejandra looked back at Ricardo and Elena, who embraced him once more before approaching Marcia to express her condolences.
    A brief moment later she rose to leave just as Leticia arrived. Elena told her Ricardo didn't like the kids being away from her too long so she was going home. All of Ricardo's friends were there but what disturbed her was that Alejandra was alone, as in Carlos Is Not With Her. Leticia told her not to worry about this, that he was likely to show up soon. “After all, only you know how to console him,” she reminded her.
  • There may have once been lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake, but this funeral would be no recreation of that.
  • She then began escorting her out, right past Joel's two sons. They marched right in and loudly greeted Ricardo...not in the right spirit. They publicly demanded to know why Ricardo had brought the body here and why he didn't tell them.
    Ricardo answered that after what they had said and done why did it matter to them? One said to him that they were taking charge from that moment on. They had a cemetary plot for Joel. Ricardo told them that this was not going to happen, that Marcia had the right to make this decision. She said that this was Joel's wish. The older of the two sons said he would not permit “this golddigger” to do this. Those were fighting words to Ricardo, who raised his fist, saying that he would not permit him to talk this way to Marcia. This led to the son shoving Ricardo and this might have become a brawl like the one in the bar except for Alejandra, who held Ricardo back and the younger son who did the same with his brother.
  • Leticia ran into Benjamin and Karina on her way out and exchanged the usual fake greetings. Benjamin commented on “what a tragedy” in a manner that indicated his contempt for people with feelings. This was followed by the usual comments in this situation until Leticia apologized for being in a rush because she had a date.
    Karina got curious about it and Leticia said she was just about to meet someone. Karina graciously said this was good news because she was attractive and deserved a lover. She asked Benjamin if he agreed. Benjamin said that Leticia was beautiful. Leticia made a gracious comment and went inside to pay her respects to Ricardo.
  • Joel's sons tried to go after Ricardo again, but Leonardo got in between to hold them off. Roberto told them that this was all their fault and they started to charge the Vega men.
    Victoria – who must be Wonder Woman in disguise – got between the brothers and Leonardo and told them off. “You two will either calm down or you will have to leave.” They said that Joel was their godfather and they had the right to be there. Ricardo looked shocked.
  • Fernanda dropped in on Susanna, looking for Juan. She was disappointed that he was not at home but Susanna told her that she was the first girl he thought of more than work.
  • Marcia could not understand what was happening because Joel had always been a good father. Juan – like Detective Columbo – kept a careful eye on the happenings without comment.
    Alonso arrived to pay his respects. He told Ricardo that he was Joel's greatest pride and that when he felt he would want to talk to Joel to come to him, as he felt the same way about him. They were very close to the sons – or godsons – of Joel.
  • Later Ricardo told Marcia that Joel's body would be taken for cremation. She went to look at him one last time.
    Once more Ricardo had to face the brother thugs, who were still refusing permission they could not grant. He told them off for abandoning their father and evicting him from his home. Finally he said not to make things any more complicated.
While it may be a little early, the moral of this story is likely that one should always have one's affairs completely in order. Property should go to the deserving and not be a golden carrot on a stick. Until we meet again Behind Mansion Walls, I'm Christopher Mason.

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Thank you Urban. This was action packed. So, we finally meet the deadbeat sons. I would have loved to
Have seen wonder woman do a beat down on those two jackasses comin in
There demanding stuff they have no
Right to demand. 2 asses in a suit.
Enough for now sleepy time.
Good night all. More after sunrise.
 

Oh my UA, I do love your new alter ego Christopher Mason.

"I'm Christopher Mason. Divorce and death bring out both the best and the worst in people. It is often a litmus test for both virtues and sins. From some it brings sympathy and compassion and for others it only brings out their sense of Entitlement."

What an elegantly written intro. Just perfect. As were all the screen shots and further commentary about the different ways that people use a death to further their own agenda.

Your tone was always on point, right up to the use of the word "declassé" As was:

"even when indoors death can bring vultures"

You evoke "Christopher" so well, I can almost HEAR him speak as I read your prose. Well crafted my friend. If I were your prof I'd give you an A++++.

Thanks as always. Hope everyone on the Patio has a lovely day. Rare sunshine here in Ohio. We're all doing high jumps and cartwheels (mentally anyway) as we rejoice.
 

Gacias, Judy. It's overcast in NYC and we are probably going to have rain today.

The intro sounds exactly like the ones in his program. Short, to the point, truthful, and with a hint of snark. I wish there were new episodes to come; this is the kind of thing I binge-watch from time to time.

Vega doesn't seem to have anyone with a specialty in estate planning and they need one. With all the wealthy patriarchs and matriarchs novelas have had over the years they've been in production we don't have any general sense of inheritance laws in Mexico. Joel's story is a good example of what can go so seriously wrong. We didn't meet his lawyer so we can't call him/her out on neglecting the real consequences of this misguided action. Marcia should look into filing a wrongful death suit against her stepsons over this.

I don't think we've seen the last of Lorenza, either. If she murders Augustin I hope he has relatives who can take Eduardo in.

More later.
 

UA, what did you think of that whole storyline though? It seemed unbelievable to me. First that the sons would be that vindictive, second that Joel would immediately commit suicide. And the resulting over--the-top crawling around, wailing, preventing Marcia from even touching Joel (then later more crawling around and wailing by Ricardo) seemed so absurd and inappropriate, I was repulsed, rather than sad or sympathetic.

Granted, Anglo-Saxon stoicism in the face of hard times is never present in these telenovelas, and I have enough Latino friends to realize they are generally much more extroverted and fiery when expressing emotion....BUT...I don't know. That storyline just left me cold and rather cynical, rather than "touched".
 

We don't have enough information to analyze the sons' objection to Marcia. One of them referred to her as a "golfa", which I was told meant "golddigger". This doesn't tell us whether she had once been "the other woman" or whether she came along after their parents were divorced or their mother died. Had she been a mistress who became a wife following a divorce I could understand their objection to some degree. However, their resentment is truly poisonous and immature.

I have a friend who once said that he would not want his mother to remarry when his father died citing that it would have been disrespectful to the memory of his father. I thought this supremely selfish of him and I said so. If it makes any difference, the family was Irish Catholic.

My take on this -- I think I'm repeating myself -- is that Joel was hoping for a reconciliation with his sons by giving them the deed to his house. It backfired when they evicted him and Marcia, which he did not expect. He couldn't take the pain and the rejection and saw that there was no hope of reconciliation. This was too much for him.

Preventing Marcia from touching the body is probably routine for legal reasons.

Ricardo's crawling around did seem excessive to me. While he is a mature man with children it is still difficult to lose a parent figure and I'm betting that he feels guilty at his inability to help Joel legally in that situation. The funeral parlor scenes demonstrate that any attempt at communication with the sons he would have tried while Joel was alive would have been ineffective.

Joel's sons had demanded that Marcia be put out of the house but Joel would not comply. Think about how Elena is trying to convince her children that a new woman in Ricardo's life would mean they would be out of it. They are too young to understand that this would not be true of him and they are also naive enough to not see Elena for the narcissist that she is.

This makes me even more insistent that we find out what finished off Elena's first marriage and why her first ex is out of the children's lives.
 

I want to see David Zepeda as a villain - and ONLY a villain - from now on. His wheelhouse is NOT playing the galan. He's tried it a few times, but has never really hit galan status, in my opinion. His "galanization" always leaves me cold and I have never seen him have good chemistry with any of his protagonistas -ever. His overacted bawling, crying, crawling around histrionics had me literally laughing out loud!! All he needed was the babas (slobber) and mocos (snot). Ugh! Bring back Bruno from Sortilegio! Lol
 

Thanks, Urban. Great job.

I can see Ric and Roberto thinking they were protecting Marcia by shielding her from the image of Joel with his head blasted. And I can see Ric staying to cradle the still warm body of his beloved. But the director’s choice of very lengthy scenes of crying and grief, nope.

Ric’s mom should be there. He told Ale a while back that his mom was an independent woman running her own business (catering? restaurant?) in Cancun.

in the Gospel According to Elena – Ricardo might otherwise find another woman and therefore forget her once he had children with a new wife.

How dare Elena deliberately give this young girl neuroses.

Gotta luv Victoria. She is always ready to take charge, any place, any time. Roberto, can you handle it?

I remembering reading a column that advised folks who marry in their golden years to put their assets, like the family home, in their respective kids' ownership, to avoid any skawking from the kids that late-life stepdad or stepmom would get "their stuff." Poor Joel must've heeded that advice, without the advantage of the legal issues Irene describes so clearly for us here, like usufruct.
 

Niecie, Elena is a narcissist. They don't care about other people's feelings or mental states unless it affects themselves. For her children to ultimately become independent scares the crap out of her because they will no longer need her and she will not have them to use as bait for Ricardo. That window of opportunity is limited anyway; if Federico is actually 13 it has a very short life span from here.
 

Thanks Urban, Loved every screenshot and your description was perfection.

Poor Marcia! And just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, Elena shows up.

Vicky is the voice of reason in this novela.
 

Urban, as always, I am amazed by your talent. Your recaps are like chapters from a good book and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the latest chapter.

I agree with JudyB that Joel's story was really over the top and not very believable.

First of all, as I said before, Joel was not rich and hiring a lawyer to transfer the house to his children would have cost a lot of money. I would think Joel would have gone to Rick, his beloved godson, to handle the transfer of property and Rick, as a competent lawyer that he is, would have advised him to include usufructuary stipulation in the contract. Any lawyer should have advised Joel to include such stipulation, since it doesn't affect the transfer of property rights but helps prevent such tragic situations.

Since Joel never discussed refusing to include such stipulation in the contract, I suspect that he was never aware of such an option, which I find very unusual.

In addition, it was way too selfish and out of character for Joel to just off himself without thinking what would happen to his wife. He once said that his children were o.k with him staying but wanted the wife out and he would never abandon her, and now he abandoned her in the worst, most cowardly way. And this was a really nice house with nice furniture and probably not cheap to upkeep, so he must have had some sort of income. And then there was Brick, who offered him his house. Surely living with Brick is better than just killing oneself and leaving the widow to fend for herself.

Irene



 

Urban, I doubt Marcia can file a wrongful death against the stepsons. Maybe she could try a wrongful death claim based upon intentional infliction of emotional distress that caused Joel to commit suicide. But I doubt she would be successful, since intentional infliction of distress is not evident here and the sons will claim that all they did was exercise the right to the property. And of course, she will have to prove causation- that the emotional distress inflicted by the sons caused Joel's suicide.

Irene
 

I also prefer Zepeda's villains to his galans.

I find Brick to bland and indecisive and him excessively babying his almost teenage children is outright absurd.
In this episode, he actually dared to berate Elena for leaving an 11 year old and a 13 year old with a babysitter for couple of hours. I know children that age that are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves without adult supervision for a couple of hours. They are not infants that need a constant maternal attention 24/7.
I get it that Elena is a villain (though a very ineffective one so far) but here she did nothing wrong, and it's Brick that should be ashamed of his patronizing and chauvinistic behavior.

Irene
 

I'm sure that this isn't the end of that story. If Marcia has other relatives she can stay with -- even temporarily -- she can recover. If not, Karma will get those stepsons of hers.

I don't know what the law is in Mexico but in some US states you can't leave a child under 15 home alone. I also don't know that Ricardo is perfectly rational right now.
 

I think in most states, 13 is the acceptable age for babysitting. At that age they can take a Red Cross training course, which includes CPR, and my 13-year-old granddaughter has babysat for a year now, as well as running a day camp for young children in her home and backyard last Summer (games, sports, arts & crafts). Of course, for the latter, her mother was also home, although not directly involved.

I found Ricardo's reaction strange as well. Unless the person doing the care had previously been suspected of mistreating the children. But I figured it was the maid who works there, prepares their meals etc.
 

My college buddy's ex told me a story a while back about an arrest made in their area (CT) where the legal age for that was 15. Someone she knew left her kids alone when she went to the store, intending to be gone for less than an hour. While she was out one of the kids got hurt and the 14-y-o called 911. She she got home the police were waiting for her. I don't know what happened after that.

I agree that Federico and Natalia seem infantilized. They look about 10 and 8 to me.

Reminder: There will not be a full recap tonight. There will be a discussion page with a few bullet points.

Anita will have Monday next week. I will have Tuesday and Wednesday and Jardinera will be back on Thursday.
 

Urban, I very much hope it isn't the end of that story. Those stepsons are heartless bastards with no conscience and in a classical telenovela, they would end up being eaten by hyenas or something. However, they sometimes drop the legal aspects of certain storylines after using them as a device to bring the protagonists together or to move the plot in the desired direction (like they did with Lourdes' storyline and with the intellectual property boobs case in early episodes), so they might just drop this storyline as well, after milking it's dramatic effect on Brick for all its worth.

Regarding leaving children alone in Mexico, I could only find this disposition of article 335 of Codigo Penal Federal :"Al que abandone a un niño incapaz de cuidarse a sí mismo o a una persona enferma, teniendo obligación de cuidarlos, se le aplicarán de un mes a cuatro años de prisión, sí no resultare daño". Those who leave a child unable to take care of himself or a sick person, having an obligation to take care of them, will be subject to one month to four years in prison, if it does not result in harm.

So, it seems that it is not a crime leaving children that are able to take care of themselves. It is up to interpretation what "able to take care of himself" means and I am sure there is jurisprudence regarding it, but I doubt that even if Elena left the children by themselves that time, she would be penalized.
But in any case, I think it is absurd for Brick to berate her (even in his grieving state) that she left almost teenage children with a babysitter.

Irene
 

Urban, the kids are supposed to be 11 and 13 at the very least (since he married Elena when she already had 2 children more than 10 years ago), but Brick treats them like 5 year olds.

Irene

 

Christopher--Your narrative style befits the action. Clipped and to the point. Gotta hand it to you. I can't wait for the next chapter.

I really wanted to comment early in the morning, but life got in the way. Everybody touched on what I saw and wanted to say anyway, especially Ric's weeping and wailing that he started on Wednesday night. Did any one notice there wasn't a single tear? Any self-respecting woman would have had plenty and a man as close to Joel as Ric seems to have been (he hadn't seen him in a long time, remember?) either would have been completely stoic or in need of a hanky. Ric was neither.

Irene--I do believe Joel did consult Ric about the house and Ric advised him not to do it. Later Joel admitted he should have listened to Ric.

Who invited those bozos to the funeral anyway? How did they find out so quickly? Hmm. Maybe the marshals told them.

Isn't a ninera (sorry, no tilde), a nanny or children's nurse? Maybe I'm not up to speed, but when I was little there were no babysitters and thus no word for it in Spanish. Mothers were always home or we got sent to friends' houses if adults needed to get away from us for awhile.

Yeah, I agree with the "reason" Ric gave Elena to leave was pretty absurd. Yep, acting like he still had some official sway over them. If it's the nanny, isn't that what she was hired for? It's not like Elena was going away for a weekend or a month, lordy, it was only a few hours. Fed is probably old enough to stay alone, but in Nat's case she might need someone a little older to be left with.

Irene-thanks for the information on Mexican law.

I shudder to think what might have happened to me, with sole custody of my kids, lo these many years ago. I often left them alone for anywhere from 1/2 an hour to an hour when they were as young as 5 1/2 and 7. I trusted them. As they got older I could leave them alone for longer periods of time, but by then, they had a set of grandparents near enough to us for them to run down the street in an emergency.

GO VIC! She's the Best!

UA--I think at one point Joel made it clear that he didn't get together with Marcia until after the boys' mother was dead and, without going back and hunting, they were already divorced. The boys just felt it was their mother's house and Marcia was desecrating her memory. Long ago, Joel and Marcia should have sold the house and bought another one to live in, in peace. It the boys wanted to buy the house, or buy them out, more power to them. This was just a SET UP for the story.

JudyB--What an enterprising young woman, your granddaughter. A big huzzah to her.
 

Oh, Blue Lass, to answer your teaser from late yesterday. Albert and Fanny in cahoots? Tantalizing possibility. We'll have to wait and see if and how they interact.

I do think it odd they are going to appeal "the same case" with Carlos representing Fanny. I would think they'd let the appeal alone and file a civil suit against Alberto. In fact, when Rob first showed up at the bar to see Carlos, I thought that's what they were going to do.
 

Urban
Again, One of your top-notch recaps. I'm so impressed with you screenshots and running dialogue. You make it so easy for us to follow a conversation we may have misheard, a sentence or part of a word, or the whole darn word. Sometimes by just missing one word, the whole conversation is misunderstanding.

You have a unique nack for snapping screenshots at just the right time.

I hope you never give up recapping, because this site wouldn't be the same.
 

Judy the whole over the top crying was just too much and too facky for me. Add DZ to those actors who have no idea how to cry on screen.
Fernando Cokunga does know how though, jest remember him in AR.
 

Urban
I'd love to have your 'binge-watch' worthy telenovelas. I binge watch almost all the time now, but alas, I'm running out of good novelas to watch.

And I don't know if I can still keep watching my favorites over and over. I've probably watched AR at least 6 times.
 

Does anyone know when Univisión uploads their episodes? Telemundo uploads their's about 6 hours after it airs.
 

Anon

I wholeheartedly agree. Even in Abismo de Pasión he was terrible as the galán. Although, for Sortilegio, he firmado the part to a T.

Until Urban suggested it might be worth watching, I am trying to put two fingers over the screen to block him out when he appears.

Why did Televisa cast such well-known actors and then scrimp on writting parts for our favorite, well-established actors.

If I could, I'd boycott Univisón for cancelling the exclusivity contracts of all those who were dedicated to their craft and loyal to Televisa for years. Do they think the younger crowd is their fan base? They need to rethink that mentality. I don't know anyone under 30 +/- say they even want to give them a try.

I'm watching Otra Lado now and I must admit seeing Majorie de las Sousa acting for Telemundo takes getting use to. She is absolutely fantastic in this novela.
 

Even in the US, there are state-specific laws that determine when a "latch kid" can be left at home alone.
Some people think these new laws are endangering a parent's authority over their kids and have started some successful campaigns to prevent their states from interfering with their parental rights. Google,"Free Range" kids.

 

I noticed when RIC was crying, not one
Tear. In acting school they teach them to reach down within themselves and to
Pull it up to bring a tear. Judith light on "one life to live"could do it
At the drop of a hat. With her it was
Crying almost every day on that show.
When an actor is doin a cryin scene and no tears show up its funny,and ric
Was tryin hard but no tears so he put
Out a weird yell that was really bad.
He should never do a crying scene ever
Again. I've never seen him play a bad guy but I like him as a good guy.Which
Means I won't like him as a bad guy. I
Didn't like seeing those two guys in
In passion and power as bad guys,cuz I've Only ever seen them in good guy roles. I Don't like them in bad guy roles.

That suicide story was kind of
Ridiculous. She's the love of his life
He promises her everything will be alright and he goes and kills himself.
And leaves her there to deal with a mess. Rather cowardly I'd say.Oh well.

And now the fight for ale begins.

 

Anita, I too remember Joel saying something about his not getting together with Marcia until long after his divorce.

FWIW, in Spain "golfa" means "idiot" or "airhead" (a gulf between the ears.) Not sure how it's used in other countries.

I haven't been able to watch this week since I'm on vacation, but the recaps have been wonderful. I downloaded INGOBERNABLE onto my tablet and it's been a real barnburner so far.
 

Victoria, I'd say anything that stars Jorge Salinas or Fernando Colunga (except PEAM). If you can find Yo Compro Esa Mujer with Eduardo Yanez, watch that. It's a classic.

The bullets points for discussion will post at 6AM tomorrow. I just took a few notes while watching; only one screenshot at the top.

I did so many screen shots for MCET back in the day that I kept getting better at it. It can capture the tiniest moment when a certain facial expression says it all.
 





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