Friday, May 04, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 5/4/18 Chapter 44: .....and Justice for All, Sort of

Preview
Carlos extracts justice from the judge and the pride overfloweth
Ric and Leo promise justice for Alexa and her dad, but they must be quick about it
Benji deals in fake justice and gets a hard earned check (the client's hard earned check, that is)
Alonso rises above Carlos' sense of justice (i.e. he's not buying Carlos' crap)
Oli doesn't think there's any justice for her new client, who feels duped by a commercial product
Letty will find justice for and CASH from Oli's new client
Carlos reminds Rob how justice slipped through his hands--but no hard feelings, dude
Ale hands Carlos her personalized form of justice--keep your hands off me
Juan and Rob work on justice for Patricia (or her killer)
Ale and Vic will collaborate to provide justice for abused women via Carlos' questionable principles
Rob says Mexico is hurting because of injustice

Part 1 of 3
Alexa's dad gets the sobering good news from the Somber Duo, Reek and Leo that when those degenerates are caught, they'll never hurt his daughter again. They lay out their strategy to a distraught father who feels helpless and useless. They're attempting to get the location of the source of the phone call Francisco made. Also, Alexa will have to go to the station to certify her declaration and see a physician. Then, Leo will go to a judge in order to expedite the arrest order.

In the (strangest) appeal in the sentencing phase of the Case of the Innocent Shooter, Fanny, the bereaved widow is sworn in. She's represented by Carlos who leads her through the sordid mess of discovering her dear departed husband, Ramon and her best friend, and Alberto's wife, Beatrice were lovers and thieves. Asked how she found this out, Fanny says she wanted to see where the business association stood and on checking Ramon's laptop, saw what she knew nothing about--that Ramon had almost finished putting all the company's assets in his name. Fanny is sure their intention was to leave their spouses. In this proceeding, which looks to the un-initiated, as a new trial, Albert sits with his attorney, while Fanny sits with hers. Ni modo, it's the story we're interested in.

The defendant defends himself protesting he knew nothing about all these goings-on. The judge silences him. Carlos is finished. The defense attorney has two questions, one, did Fanny know about the sordid affair or the sordid plan? No, of course not. She just finished testifying to that. Question two, did she know whether Albert knew of the betrayal? She has no idea whether he did or not. Roberto, meanwhile, has discretely enter the court room and has taken a seat in the audience.

The defense attorney says this is sufficient proof that there is no basis for motive. It was an accident. He's finished. Carlos jumps up. He points out that if this were really an accident, why did the defendant lie in his official statement about not knowing anything about using a gun. They have proof that he purchased and registered the gun over a year ago. In order to do that legally he had to have taken classes in its use and safety.

The judge allows them to make final arguments. Carlos, in essence, continues to make his case--how Roberto Morelli, one of Vega Associates finest attorneys was fooled into defending Albert and making a persuasive case of accidental shooting. Of course, heaven forfend, he is not casting aspersions on the very reputable firm of Vega, but, unlike at Vega, justice is rendered here in these hallowed halls and no one escapes. He asks for justice. The opposing counsel does his best to refute the charges: that the defendant is a first time offender and had already been found innocent.

The parties confer during a recess before the judge announces the sentence. The judge returns. He discounts the first time offender bit and sentences Albert to 20 years in prison for the crime, which he lied about. Al is furious at his incompetent counsel. His attorney flees the room at the first opportunity as Al is led out by the marshals, kicking and screaming. Carlos, Fanny and Alan are ecstatic. Carlos is bursting with satisfaction at having "beaten" Rob and enjoys sticking it to him. To Alan he "mentions" how decisively he won this case and now he'll do the same with Alejandra. He and Rob head for the Vega offices, ostensibly for Carlos to consult Leo about his case.

Back at Vega, Letty tells Benji she's concerned about his hiding cases from the firm. He sees nothing wrong with it. It was a simple case and his accountant is very manageable. Letty worries that a stray word might get back to Vega. Benji says he's not worried about that. It's a done deal, anyway.

The red-headed useless receptionist (Lola, I think), pauses to admire her new shoes, carefully showing us the shopping bag, marked Andre. She opens the box and takes out a light Royal blue pump with spiked heels. After holding it up to the light for a few seconds, just for us, she reboxes it and heads out. (What a waste of her time and mine.)

Oli continues to poll her colleagues about having a baby without a father, and babies in general. Letty is against it, for herself anyway because she isn't into babies, per se. She's not interested in changing her carefree lifestyle (of pressuring Benji to leave his wife so they can be exclusive). Letty's advice is to find a guy quickly because older mothers tend to become hysterical.

While Letty is still in her office, Oli gets a new client. A very non-descript man enters and straight off ask the lady lawyers if they find him attractive, irresistible. When they say no, he says that is precisely why he's there.

Carlos gets a few minutes alone with Alonso to brag about his success and tries hard to make Roberto look bad, which in turn makes the firm look bad. He continues b-essing that he's there for whatever assistance Alonso needs, since it would be dreadful for Vega to lose any more cases. Alonso squirms at each pat on the back Carlos gives himself, but smiling, he courteously defends his attorneys. Carlos claims it would have been great to have been part of his firm, but things worked out for the best. Alonso agrees that working alone suits Carlos better.

Part 2 of 3
Oli's new client's complaint is that for two years he used a deodorant that was supposed to attract women, as advertised. He lost money and self-esteem and wants to sue for damages. Oli has heard of the product and she and Letty listen patiently to his story. Letty points out that they do that to sell more. He claims this is a legitimate company, so why should they doubt the veracity of their claims? The product, so they said, contains a substance that would attract women. He now feels defrauded and robbed. He has all the proof they'll need. Olli warns him it won't be easy or quick. He tells them to take all the time they need. At this juncture, Letty takes over, laying out the legal strategy for him. She tells him to call her for an appointment when he has everything together. He leaves. Oli points out to Letty that it's a lost cause. Letty says, so what (stepping closer to Benji's Dark Side). Oli is horrified by her greed. Letty defends herself--he's a client asking for help and if Oli can't help him, she, Letty, will.

Benji is meeting his off-the-books client, Ligia, at an outdoor café. Everything is settled he declares. He shows her that there is a fine, new taxes, but he saved her from prison. Then he tells her about the additional expenses he incurred that now need to be paid. He's very vague on the specifics of the charges. Ligia claims it exceeds the amount they settled on. Benji tells her the case was very complicated and if these charges aren't paid, it could throw the whole case back to the beginning. Ligia is very upset (while Benji thinks he has her cornered). She keeps protesting she has no more money to give him, but she gets out her checkbook and writes him a check. He has her pay for the coffee and leaves.

Juanito and Rob are conferring. Juanito is nervous about going up against Carlos (for whatever reason). Rob says just answer his questions truthfully. Now, relax, breathe. Carlos interrupts and breaks the Feng Shui moment between the two guys. Rob tells Carlos he thinks the brown fibers found in Patricia's throat are important. Juan speaks up. Carlos ignores him and asks what Leo thinks. He tells Carlos it's what all three of them think. They're a team. Carlos thinks that with this evidence, it's time to draw up a list of suspects. Rob asks delicately if there's anyone, recently, he won a case against who might want revenge. Carlos humbly asserts he wins all his cases and the accused either get fined or sent to jail. (He sounds more like a prosecutor than a defense attorney, but as I said before, ni modo.) He'll provide Vega with a list he gets from Alan. He gets up and shakes Rob's hand and ignores Juan's outstretched hand, patting him on the shoulder instead. (Any guesses where he's going next?)

Juanito and Rob strategize. They don't like Carlos looking over their shoulder and even less that they have suspicions regarding his cousin Alan. Juan also thinks they can't eliminate Carlos from their list of suspects. Rob reminds Juan they didn't have enough proof beforehand. Juan knows that, he's only asking they not eliminate him from their list. Rob thinks they need to concentrate on what they have to go on now: 1) Alan spent the night at the hotel without telling anyone; 2) did Patricia have any enemies who could have followed her in; 3) now they have Tatiana, and 4) Carlos would never have risked losing everything.

Without knocking, Carlos pops in on Ale to greet her and give her the good news that he won his first case since getting out of prison. He accompanies the news with a misplaced kiss that lands on Ale's cheek. If she'd been quicker it might have landed in her hair. She's genuinely happy for him. When he grabs her hands and suggests they go celebrate, she very decisively removes her hands from his and says she doesn't want him to take it the wrong way, BUT, from now on, anything between them is to be strictly business. Carlos is taken by surprise, but this dog is not about to let go of this delectable bone. Ale invites Carlos to sit down and talk about the foundation. He does, wiping an imaginary tear from his right eye. She and Victoria have been batting ideas back and forth. She'd like Carlos to hear Vic's now. She decides to go get Vic because, she says, Vic never answers her phone. (What a crock. This is a law office, of course she'd answer her phone. Oh, now it's clear. She leaves and Reek comes looking for her and finds Carlos behind her desk.) Carlos takes the opportunity to re-send his condolences regarding Joel and how great it was that Ale stayed with him until he was ok. Oh, no, he didn't give her permission. It was out of the goodness of her big heart. He declares that things between them are almost back to normal and soon Ale will be his bride (again--yeah, you wish). Reek hopes he'll be good to Ale and not betray her again. Carlos realizes that now.

Back to Rob and Juan. As they continue talking, Rob gets a phone call from the retirement facility his father lives in. He's in trouble with the ladies, again. He's a regular Don Juan. (Apologies to Juan Lopez.) The facility wants him out. Rob has offered to take him in, but he refuses to leave. Rob wants him to be happy, so he goes out there and tries to fix things. He'll plan on doing that tomorrow.

Part 3 of 3
As Rob and Juan continue their talk, we find out a little more of their backstory. Juan's father was an attorney, but died when Juan was still a boy. He wanted to emulate his father, so he went into law. Rob, on the other hand, explains his father was a doctor and a womanizer and he wanted to be the complete opposite of him. Juan notes, rightfully, as they both like the ladies, they aren't so different. Rob laughs, it's in their DNA.

While Carlos is having his one-upmanship talk with Reek, Victoria and Alejandra are in Vic's office going over the names of the organizations that Vic thinks would be willing to assist the foundation. She's been in contact with all of them, so she'll be glad to take on that task. They get up to go talk to Carlos when Reek rushes in. He will need Ale's help with the Alexa case. The three criminals might need to be extradited. He explains that Leo is dealing with the judge for that expedited arrest order and sending Interpol an alert. He turns heel and leaves. Ale looks resigned. To Vic it doesn't look that way.

Letty is working on the nerdy guy's case when Benji comes in to crow about hoodwinking the poor accountant. No she doesn't need any help with her case. He's delighted to hear she plans to make a lot of money off of him, even though it's a hopeless case. He shows her the check he received. Her eyes pop. She's not interested in helping him celebrate. He tries to rouse her "interest" and though she protests, he soon has her sitting on the edge of her desk and he's standing in front of her, pulling down the top of her red dress. Just then, Oli walks in. (They'd better be glad it wasn't Alonso.) They break apart faster than a Twix chocolate bar. Oli pretends not to have noticed anything as they tell her they were discussing Oli and Letty's new case. Oli says to keep it up, she'll come back later. Benji and Letty seem chastened for one hot minute. Letty turns on Benji. She says quite angrily that if they weren't having a clandestine affair, everything would have been ok. In fact, she would have been glad to have been found out. She's tired of all this sneaking around. Tired! Then she kisses him to make her point.

Juan and Rob have gone to see Leo to get his approval for how they are proceeding with the Carlos case. Leo needs them to carry on without him. He's going to have to dedicate 100% of his time to the Alexa case. Juan says he'll follow up on Tatiana and leaves. Rob offers to help Leo with Alexa. Leo is so upset that their society is so rife with crime they can't keep up. Rob says Mexico is hurting. She's hurting because of injustice. Reek drops in on the two guys. He's sick of Carlos. He can't stand him. Now he's boasting about how happy he is with Alejandra. Rob says he's just torturing himself. Reek says he just can't stop thinking about her. Each time he's around her, he knows she's the perfect one for him. If she really is back with Carlos, he has to respect her decision. They commiserate, but tell him to man up, leave it behind. As he leaves. Rob calls after him that he'll introduce him to some of his friends, tutti frutti. The two laugh over their whiskeys: he who falls in love, loses.

Back to Carlos. Vic brings him up to date on their proposal. He humbly predicts (hopes) that someday, this will no longer be a project but a reality. PSA for help for abused women (which in Ale's speech, silently includes herself). After Carlos leaves, Vic stays behind to find out what's going on between Ale and Carlos--she doesn't understand. Vic thought Ale distancing herself from Ric was because she and Carlos were patching things up. Ale says nope, she's never going to forgive Carlos. Right now she doesn't want to have anything to do with MEN.

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Thanks Anita. I knew Carlos came to rub it in alonzo's face that he did what robby couldn't. So glad ally slapped hIs hands away. And then he goes And lies to rick about her becoming His wife, if I understood that right. He said somethin about "mi espouso"And Rick swallowed,when is he gonna learn. Him and ally are so dandgum frustrating. They won't talk to each Other. Why don't they just fall in a hole.
Ok bedtime. This island is gonna be up all night, we got a shrimp festival and there's just way way
Way to many people on this island.
Good night Anita.zzzzzzzzzzz
 

Ah Nina, sound like you live in a wonderful place where people celebrate all night long. Hope you can enjoy the festivities instead of being weary of it all.

Anita, thanks for the justice-related highlights. Will look forward to the full recap later. Babysitting today so may not actually see the episode until Sunday.
 

Nina, did you say shrimp festival? Where are you so I can book a flight?

OK; I just bought myself a Red Lobster gift card yesterday so I guess I gotta be happy with that.

Sooner or later it had to finally come to Alejandra telling someone at the office that she is so done with Carlos. I hope Victoria advises her to finally talk to Ricardo. Maybe working on this case will provoke that.

More later. The virus scan is slowing my internet down.
 

Good Part 1.

Alberto's attorney was an arrogant ass with no facts to present. Rather than Carlos telling the judge that the defendant had taken the requisite classes for owning a firearm, why didn't he present documents and call a witness, like whoever taught the class?

So, who does that business belong to now?

And the nerve of Carlos to try to rub Alonso's nose in all this. The look on Alonso's face said "I've got your number" so I hope he calls Roberto in for a conversation about this.
 

Thanks, Anita. Enjoyed Part 1 and 2. I do like when the "Somber Duo, Reek and Leo" ruminate.

Carlos was at his most unlikeable. When he finally gets his comeuppance, I hope it's lowly (in Carlos's mind) Juan giving it to him. Carlos just confirmed to Alonso that he was right not to hire this arrogant, back-stabbing S.O.B.
 

Ok, I'm done (and pretty much done in)
Niecie--wouldn't that be poetic justice for Juan to deliver the coup to Carlos. Serve him right for his snobbishness (and might I add, classist attitude).
 

"Ally says nope,Im never gonna Forgive Carlos. Right now I don't want to have Anything to do with MEN". Well that's
All fine and good she sayin it to some
One in the office, but she need to say it to carlos. Cuz he's delusional and he's trying to delude Rick into thinking that they're going to be husband and wife. NOT!
Rick,"If she is back with Carlos I have to respect her decision". Why does he need to respect her decision Carlos is not respecting her decision cuz he always trying to catch a smooch here and there,tryin to hold her hand and she will not speak up and tell him to get lost well actually she did tell him don't touch her but that's not the same as "we are done Carlos Iam not going to be your wife". Well if she keeps that up she's not going to have any man to not to want to have anything to do with. Boy, glad I don't have to repeat that out loud that's a tongue twister.

I hope that accountant benji scammed out of thousands of dollars decides to Come to vega & Associates to complain about his shotty lawyering. Hey can't he go to jail for what he did to her? I hope so,and then his wife accidently on purpose finds Out he's a dirty low down cheat. His wife is just as pretty as letty according to that photo thats behind his desk. If Letty don't think she deserves better than him,then whatever comes from this Disaster she deserves. With this guy she's scraping the bottom of the cessPool.But to each her own, and his.

Robby turned out just like his daddy. And if he's not careful, he will wind
Up in a rest home chasing old biddies
Who don't know what planet theyre on.

Thanks Anita for parts 1,2,3.
Ok tuna for dinner.
 

Great work, Anita. Good lines, too.

Roberto only changed professions from his father; they are the same. I wonder who will be playing him. BTW, a friend of mine was married to a man who got calls like this. Her suegro was in early stage dementia and was kicked out of three places like this. They found out that a relative was sneaking him alcohol so the last place the old man was in was told that his visitors were restricted to his adult children and their spouses. I hope Roberto doesn't have to deal with that.

That product liability client is a creep. Leticia should be able to deal with any jackass behavior on his part. She may eventually turn into someone I like.

I would also like to see Juan deal the coup de grace on Carlos. Obviously he knows that Carlos is snubbing him so I wonder whether there were any past dealings that left a bad taste in his mouth.

More later.

 

Anita, terrific Part 3.

Juan's backstory surprised me. I'd figured he was the first in his family to earn an advanced degree. But if his dad was an attorney too, why is mom so clueless about Juan's work? Surely, her husband worked long hours too.
 

Great point, Niecie. I had wondered whether Susanna was a single mother because Juan's father hadn't been mentioned up until this point. He must have died young and maybe only a few years out of school. Maybe in an accident or something.

That Carlos is looking to stab Roberto in the back is something Roberto should know. How much sense does it make for this to happen unless Carlos is actually guilty of the murder of the prostitute and is hoping to derail their investigation?

I loved Olivia catching Benjamin and Leticia. This has to get back to Alonso sooner or later so this one more step along that path. While Leticia isn't the best team player, Benjamin isn't one at all and therefore doesn't belong there. This is also why Carlos never made it into this firm. He never was a team player and I'm sure there is dissent at his firm that we haven't found out about yet.
 

Great points, Niecie and Urban--When Juan said his dad passed away when he was a small boy, I want to say between 5-7. He never said he remembered his father. So perhaps it was a struggle for Susana to raise him alone. They seem to live in a very modest neighborhood, in a very modest home, although it has all the furnishings it needs.

This is in comparison to Reek's (Rob's name for him, not mine) bachelor digs. When the story began, he'd been divorced only a short time and Elena and the kids hadn't seen his apartment until a few episodes later. Yet, it was fully decorated with lots of really nice furniture, lamps and what-nots, knick-knacks, art works, throw pillows, etc. I said to myself, gee, that was quick and I wondered who helped him decorate....It took me years to accumulate stuff I liked when I moved from an apartment into a house and that included not having any time as a single mother, working, graduate school and hating to shop (still do). The biggest difference was that I had no money and Reek is doing very well. I wish he would spend some money on better fitting shirts, though.
 

Ricardo was married to Elena for 10 years and I'm sure he didn't get married right of school, either. I'm sure he had some pesos in the bank first.

It looks like now Juan is the breadwinner in the house, probably for some time. Moving out would be good for him psychologically but probably a bigger financial stretch than he can handle for a while.
 

When I first saw that little apartment
I thought it was a nice little house and also thought she was a single mother, well she was a single mother cuz he was a little boy when his father died,and like someone said he died young so maybe he didn't have a lot of time to make a big fortune like that the rest of the guys have made. cuz they've been there a little longer.

Juan is stretching his wings and he's
Gonna need room, especially if he marrys up with(what's her name),that
Pretty neighbor girl. I would love to see jaun deliever Carlos' head on a silver charger. Cuz he's an arrogant S.O.B.. He'd be able to handle the get
His own place, once he bury's Carlos,
He'll get a bonus.

Ricky may have decorated his own flat.
Some guys have really good taste. We
Know exlena didn't do it. Which surprised me. You'd think she would
have every kind of excuse to be with
"Mi Amor" cuz hes the best father to her kids. Where the hell is their bio
Dad? That question will remain forever unanswered until he shows up, if he shows up.
 

Nina--I always love reading your sing-song comments. You don't mince words, either!

Ricky may have done his own apartment. I was just noting that he did it so quickly after moving out. Exlena wouldn't have done it because they weren't getting along very well when the story started.

Urban--I wasn't inferring that Ricky lacked money. Of course not. He's been doing very well for a long time. I was just guffawing behind his back that the place was fully furnished as soon as he moved out. He probably had a home decorator run around and get all the accoutrements since he worked all the time.
 

Dear Anita, thank you very much for another amazing recap.
I especially enjoyed the following lines:
"In the (strangest) appeal in the sentencing phase of the Case of the Innocent Shooter, Fanny, the bereaved widow is sworn in"
"After holding it up to the light for a few seconds, just for us, she reboxes it and heads out. (What a waste of her time and mine.)"
"They break apart faster than a Twix chocolate bar"
"What a crock. This is a law office, of course she'd answer her phone. Oh, now it's clear. She leaves and Reek comes looking for her and finds Carlos behind her desk."
"She's not interested in changing her carefree lifestyle (of pressuring Benji to leave his wife so they can be exclusive)".

I just came back from a fastfood and nature road trip, and read the recap without even seeing the episode, so can't comment yet, but will probably have a lot to say tomorrow.

Irene

 

Irene--How do you put fast food and nature in the same sentence???? Were there burger stands on hiking trails? Looking forward to your comments.
 

Anita, I wish there were burger stands on hiking trails! It would have made life much easier.The places I visited were amazing, but there were almost no people there, let alone burger stands.
I had to buy my fast food in advance and take it with me.

Irene

 

Works for me, as long as there are microwaves and coffee makers along the trail.
 

This appeal was the most ridiculous thing I have seen in a long time. It was definitely not an appeal,since new evidence was presented and it was heard before the judge that made the original decision, but it was also not a retrial, since only one witness was heard. And there is no way a judge would have convicted someone on such a flimsy evidence. Carlos had only two arguments: that Alberto took shooting classes and that he had a motive to kill Ramon.
He didn't prove that the shooting was not an accident and he didn't prove that Alberto actually knew about the infidelity and the dissolution of the company. Even Fanny said that she doesn't know whether Alberto actually knew, so everything said by Carlos is just a speculation.
For Carlos to actually have a chance at conviction he would have to:
a)bring the instructor in, question him as to what Alberto was taught regarding weapons handling and weapons safety and what kind of student he was.
b)question Alberto and confront him with the instructor's version.
c)question Alberto why the gun was loaded, how he loaded it and when.
d)make Rob testify as to how he was invited to the party, what was said during the invitation, what happened in reality etc...Rob is actually the most important witness here since his testimony would prove that Alberto actually planned the whole thing.
e)Confront Alberto with Rob's testimony.
f)make Berenicy testify regarding the affair and, most importantly, regarding who was supposed to be invited to the party.
g)present weapon's expert's report regarding the malfunction of the weapon that Alberto claimed when he said that "la arma se disparo".
etc..

Maybe in this case a conviction would actually make sense, but with the flimsy evidence that was presented by Carlos no judge would have convicted Alberto.

Irene

 

Anita, all you need is a thermos and a thermal bag and you are good to go.

Irene
 

Now, regarding the deodorant client, it is actually a very interesting issue of whether there was or wasn't false advertising. And let me tell you, it is a very hot subject which gives way to some interesting class action lawsuits.
In the United States, there is the ongoing saga of Boiron’s Oscillo in that regard. Oscillo, which is a homeopathic flue remedy, is subject of several lawsuits in which it is claimed that the company mislead consumers into buying a remedy that did not provide relief as advertised.
In 2017, in one of those lawsuits a judgment was entered in favor of the company because the plaintiff failed to prove that the company’s representations were false, misleading, or likely to deceive reasonable consumers.
The Boiron jury’s verdict is fantastic news for the homeopathic industry that deals with a huge number of class action lawsuits seeking millions in damages.
However, very often big companies prefer to settle in order to avoid bad publicity that comes with such lawsuits, so Leticia's enthusiasm in taking the case actually makes perfect sense.
I personally respect her much more for her ballsy approach to practicing law. To win big means to risk big, and Olivia maybe is not going to be mocked by her peers, but she will never do something spectacular and win big. Her overcautious attitude makes her a mediocre lawyer. Leticia might lose this case, but eventually her attitude will bring her success.

Irene

 

I didn't mention this but Alejandra should not have left Carlos alone in her office. That Ricardo found him behind the desk makes me wonder how long he had been there and what he was snooping into.
 

Interesting perspective Irene. And I agree, there are qualities about Leticia that are admirable--her honesty about her feelings (even the ugly ones) and her risk-taking. Olivia is supposed to garner our sympathy I think but her wan, victim-y stance if off-putting.

However the advertising industry really deserves a scare in my opinion. I remember years ago, reading in the Wall Streeet Journal about an advertising ploy for some feminine product and the industy line was "we need to convince women that they are dirty and smell bad in order to sell this.

Ugh, what a way to live your life and make your money!
 

Judy, I spent my entire professional life in the ad business. I never worked on any of those infomercial things like this client seems to be suing, but in the US those sorts of companies have to have a disclaimer saying "Results not typical" or something like that.

Beauty product manufacturers convince women that they will be more beautiful if they use their products, etc. That's how they sell them. One company I worked for tried pitching a douche product and the men in my office didn't realize that these products were unnecessary, per your example. In the end we didn't get the account because we didn't have a female account exec at the time (which shows that this is longer ago than I want to admit), but that was just as well.
 

JudyB, sometimes the advertising industry does take a hit. The problem is that it often happens with the least deserving cases. The "Red Bull gives you wings" lawsuit comes to mind.
In this very interesting lawsuit, a regular guy sued the company claiming false advertising and arguing that after drinking this abomination for years he didn't grow wings. Ok, he didn't say that, he actually claimed that they falsely promised that their drink boosts energy. But the amazing thing is that the company decided to settle out of court to "avoid the cost and distraction of litigation" and agreed to pay 13 millions, about half of that sum being set aside to be used to refund the millions of consumers around the world (about 10 dollars per consumer, if I am not mistaken). That's a very big win for a gutsy client with a gutsy lawyer that thought outside the box.

I dare to say that Leticia's case would have made some lawyer very rich in the U.S, but since they clearly want to contrast her calculating nature with Olivia's so called goodness, she will probably lose and be humiliated in the process.

Irene

 

Or they drop the client because he creeps out all the women in the office. No matter what a guy like that uses or wears he'll never score.
 

I am probably in the minority, but I hate Olivia's hypocrisy. First, she spoke very politely with the client and even asked him to bring the necessary documents, but then, when he left the room, she said to Leticia that this case is impossible and that the judge is going to think they are as crazy as the client is. Why didn't she tell the client that his case is impossible if that's what she, a senior lawyer, thinks? By asking the client to provide documents, she actually agreed that he has a valid case when it's not the case.

And the whole "looking bad in front of a judge" argument annoys me tremendously. She is so afraid of looking what the others will think of her that she'd rather not take a case than risk looking bad.

And finally, for a senior lawyer, our Olivia is really way too clueless as to how law firms work. The goal of a law firm is to make money and the more the better, not save puppies, free whales and defend the innocents (unless someone is paying big bucks for saving puppies, whales and innocents). So her hypocritical indignation that Leticia is taking the case for money is absurd. But hey, she wanted to have a baby from Gustavo, so she is probably not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Irene

Irene

 

Interesting comments from both UA and Irene. Loving these discussions.

Although I know you are right Irene...the goal of a law firm is to make money and the more the better--in this story, they are portraying Alonso and his crew as noble souls ready and willing to defend the innocent and save the preyed upon. And Leticia and Benjamin (before he started working on the side) are clearly meant to be seen as scum, in spite of their ability to bring in big bucks.

So more unreality. But hopefully it will continue to be entertaining.

UA, I would imagine that working in the advertising business in New York would be high stakes indeed. Glad you survived. I would think that milieu would be as ruthless as the stockmarket business.
 

Ad agencies have their pro bono clients as well as law firms. One of mine had one called Action Against AIDS whose goal was to design and provide education about this for kids 8-11 years old. The next agency had one who fought teen pregnancy.

However, we don't have the moral dilemmas that law firms do. We didn't need to worry about whether our clients were guilty or innocent of crimes; we just had to make sure that the messages we delivered to the public were more persuasive and more effectively delivered than the competitions'.

Per my comments above about "Results not typical", Olivia could be right about not winning that case if that rule is in effect in Mexico, in which case the firm would lose money on taking the case because it would waste Leticia's time and effort.
 

Did Olivia really ask Gus to be sperm
Doner for her egg?I missed that scene?
Seems to me she'd want to keep that her secret about wanting a baby. And
Too soon after that disastrous date.
She needs to take a break for herself
And don't bring no baby into her mess.
 

Is it hard defending someone who you know is guilty. And not just a corazonada, but know for a fact?
 





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