Thursday, August 16, 2018
Corazón Que Miente, Week 11 (8/16/18) – Thursday Update: What's It Worth To Ya?
Leonardo takes Mariela out for dinner-and-a-snog at The Only Restaurant in Puebla, which of course acts as a giant cosmic magnet for Alfonso and Renata. Al and Leo nearly come to blows, while Ren stands around, as useless as a coat-check girl. Finally Al pronounces that some people "are not worth fighting over...or even crying over" and stalks off. Leo sees no reason why this should ruin their evening, which kind of shows why he has trouble keeping girlfriends.
Rogelio continues to rage in the hospital. Who knew his pretty face was worth so much to him? After all, if he was really all about being scary, this would actually help. The doc tells him not to let the hospital door hit him on the way out.
Denise and Antonio nosh & dish about promising young Mexican artists, the furniture he needs for his new apartment, and oh, anything she can tell him about Mariela. She gives him the 411 about Mari's derailed wedding and the putative explanation. Ant does not approve of the quasi-incestuous romance, which makes us like him even more.
Carmen does not approve, either, and reproaches Leonardo: "I thought you were going to give her some space?" Leo basically tells her not to pee on his campfire, which makes us like him even less.
Lety expects Santi to regret kissing her, but he delights her by suggesting they become novios. He seems very peaceful and happy, while she bubbles over like a root-beer float. They agree to keep it quiet for a while so they don't have to deal with Demian -- it's just not worth it.
Marcia catches Rafaela trying to break into Dem's laptop, and they do some quick & grouchy horse-trading: Dem's password in exchange for a nice trimester bonus -- and of course, continued silence on both sides. Marcia doesn't seem to realize she's trying to punch way above her weight class. I hope the final round isn't too messy.
Ren makes much of her humiliation at the restaurant. When Al approaches her at the pool with an apology and a proposition, she tries to vamp him into putting a ring on it, but he's too circumspect: it's not worth it...yet. Maybe more suntan lotion will help.
Mariela mopes by abuelo's grave, admitting that she still loves Alonso with all her heart and asking for a sign that she's doing the right thing by giving Leo a chance. I have never been so happy NOT to see Eric Del Castillo.
Antonio approaches Dem about investing a large sum in Quadrum, and they make arrangements to exchange paperwork the next morning. Instead of getting excited, Dem goes sleek and cold as a hooded cobra. He tells Rafi he needs her as a wing woman to misrepresent the company's value to the prospective investor, and she plays hard to get until he finally says he'll make it worth her while. "How much?" she asks. Her hair has gotten even bigger.
Fatherlike Dan travels to Mexico City to interview the mother of the dead hooker, who serves up distress, information and Span-Dutch in equal measure. She agrees to come back to Puebla with him, even if they have to drive all night -- it's worth it to find out what happened to her daughter.
Al and Mari run into each other and do their usual dance of spitting insults to keep back the kisses. Al asks Mari to tell him one thing: if it was all a trick, why did she let it go so far? She responds hysterically that it certainly didn't take him long to console himself. HE'S JUST LIKE ALL MEN. Since she only knows two gay guys and a creepy uncle, this makes no sense at all, but it's a good line.
In other news:
* Santi confides in Al about his new relationship (quipping that since he can't go after the girls, they have to come to him.) Al is down with it.
* Antonio is from Monterrey. Cefiro's wife and daughters fled to Monterrey. Coincidence? Probably. It's not like they re-read the scripts or anything.
* Cris makes Liso french toast for breakfast and tells him how cute he looks just standing around. Do you think they have an extra room in their apartment? We could all take turns staying over.
Rogelio continues to rage in the hospital. Who knew his pretty face was worth so much to him? After all, if he was really all about being scary, this would actually help. The doc tells him not to let the hospital door hit him on the way out.
Denise and Antonio nosh & dish about promising young Mexican artists, the furniture he needs for his new apartment, and oh, anything she can tell him about Mariela. She gives him the 411 about Mari's derailed wedding and the putative explanation. Ant does not approve of the quasi-incestuous romance, which makes us like him even more.
Carmen does not approve, either, and reproaches Leonardo: "I thought you were going to give her some space?" Leo basically tells her not to pee on his campfire, which makes us like him even less.
Lety expects Santi to regret kissing her, but he delights her by suggesting they become novios. He seems very peaceful and happy, while she bubbles over like a root-beer float. They agree to keep it quiet for a while so they don't have to deal with Demian -- it's just not worth it.
Marcia catches Rafaela trying to break into Dem's laptop, and they do some quick & grouchy horse-trading: Dem's password in exchange for a nice trimester bonus -- and of course, continued silence on both sides. Marcia doesn't seem to realize she's trying to punch way above her weight class. I hope the final round isn't too messy.
Ren makes much of her humiliation at the restaurant. When Al approaches her at the pool with an apology and a proposition, she tries to vamp him into putting a ring on it, but he's too circumspect: it's not worth it...yet. Maybe more suntan lotion will help.
Mariela mopes by abuelo's grave, admitting that she still loves Alonso with all her heart and asking for a sign that she's doing the right thing by giving Leo a chance. I have never been so happy NOT to see Eric Del Castillo.
Antonio approaches Dem about investing a large sum in Quadrum, and they make arrangements to exchange paperwork the next morning. Instead of getting excited, Dem goes sleek and cold as a hooded cobra. He tells Rafi he needs her as a wing woman to misrepresent the company's value to the prospective investor, and she plays hard to get until he finally says he'll make it worth her while. "How much?" she asks. Her hair has gotten even bigger.
Fatherlike Dan travels to Mexico City to interview the mother of the dead hooker, who serves up distress, information and Span-Dutch in equal measure. She agrees to come back to Puebla with him, even if they have to drive all night -- it's worth it to find out what happened to her daughter.
Al and Mari run into each other and do their usual dance of spitting insults to keep back the kisses. Al asks Mari to tell him one thing: if it was all a trick, why did she let it go so far? She responds hysterically that it certainly didn't take him long to console himself. HE'S JUST LIKE ALL MEN. Since she only knows two gay guys and a creepy uncle, this makes no sense at all, but it's a good line.
In other news:
* Santi confides in Al about his new relationship (quipping that since he can't go after the girls, they have to come to him.) Al is down with it.
* Antonio is from Monterrey. Cefiro's wife and daughters fled to Monterrey. Coincidence? Probably. It's not like they re-read the scripts or anything.
* Cris makes Liso french toast for breakfast and tells him how cute he looks just standing around. Do you think they have an extra room in their apartment? We could all take turns staying over.
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doris, skankzilla and bag on the head/unknown comic: very funny!
Thank you, Blue Lass. “ . . . looms behind him like a yeti.” Perfect!
No hope for Elena. I am still hoping for some complication to do Rogelio in.
I felt bad for Denise with what she thought might be a date turning out to be just dinner with Mariela present.
So, Antonio is going to be the one to ride to the rescue and restore Mariela’s world. I loved seeing Demián(that was the worst I saw his hair in the whole novela—the color was super red brown and it looked like a seam on his forehead) being snookered into Antonio becoming a partner.
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Thank you for your recap, Blue Lass, and the snark. I'm back home and watched this episode today. (yay? ... lol)
The speed at which a couple become "novios" in telenovelalandia is just amazing. Santi and Lety have had one date so far?
The fullness of Rafi's hair changes almost hourly, per my observations since day one.
Rafi is good with numbers, so would she have noticed the company is in trouble after looking at Dem's spread sheets?
The murdered "masseuse"'s mother's Spanish pronunciation did sound odd to me. Nothing wrong with it, but it was different. Dutch, eh? I wouldn't have a clue.
Seeing Mari kiss Leo is barfworthy. Just sayin'...
Oh great, Rog is up and out marauding through Puebla again. And here I was hoping, all along, that Rafi would smother him with a pillow in his hospital bed.
The speed at which a couple become "novios" in telenovelalandia is just amazing. Santi and Lety have had one date so far?
The fullness of Rafi's hair changes almost hourly, per my observations since day one.
Rafi is good with numbers, so would she have noticed the company is in trouble after looking at Dem's spread sheets?
The murdered "masseuse"'s mother's Spanish pronunciation did sound odd to me. Nothing wrong with it, but it was different. Dutch, eh? I wouldn't have a clue.
Seeing Mari kiss Leo is barfworthy. Just sayin'...
Oh great, Rog is up and out marauding through Puebla again. And here I was hoping, all along, that Rafi would smother him with a pillow in his hospital bed.
Thank you, Blue Lass.
doris, you and I both are both amazed at how quickly these novio pairings occur.
I hope Rogelio does not heed the dr.’s warning, leaves the hospital and dies of the threatened infection. At least the creep would be gone.
So, Denise is going to end up with Antonio? Will Antonio EVER tell Mariela who he really is?
Will Leonardo ( “the cheese” ) stand alone at the end.?
doris, you and I both are both amazed at how quickly these novio pairings occur.
I hope Rogelio does not heed the dr.’s warning, leaves the hospital and dies of the threatened infection. At least the creep would be gone.
So, Denise is going to end up with Antonio? Will Antonio EVER tell Mariela who he really is?
Will Leonardo ( “the cheese” ) stand alone at the end.?
O/T: for a dark comedic romp, may I recommend Netflix’s “La casa de las flores” starring Verónica Castro and Aislinn Derbez. It is a limited series with 13 episodes. It makes me laugh and that is a good thing. 🙂
Jarifa - Loving your wish for Rog. Nobody will ever accuse us of having Mather a Teresa aspirations. LOL
We don't have Netflix. Not enough time to watch the stuff we record on regular cable, as it is. I know I'm missing a LOT of good shows.
We don't have Netflix. Not enough time to watch the stuff we record on regular cable, as it is. I know I'm missing a LOT of good shows.
Good snarkily recap. Short and to the point.
Mari and leo:
I feel absolutely zero chemistry with
These two. What the heck is she tryin to Prove with wanna-be daddy uncle-novio Whatever he is? And Mari is tryin so hard to want this guy, honey it ain't Happening. Not in 2018.
I thought rafie and eddyboy were gonna
Finish off rog, they chickened out? He
Is gonna be worst than before the hit
And face smash. I hope eddy got other
License plates.
Ren wasn't humiliated, she sure know how to Turn al every way but loose, those crock tears, the fake hurt. And he swallowed it all.
Al and mari:
Your right blue, That pretending to be so mad at each other so they won't lip lock. So stupid.
Leo has talked himself into thinkin "its ok, I raised her,I can love her this way, It's not incest". Yuck! Deni
Really wants this guy. She should have
Him. Like I said 0 chemistry between him and mari.
Ok thank you blue lass.
Mari and leo:
I feel absolutely zero chemistry with
These two. What the heck is she tryin to Prove with wanna-be daddy uncle-novio Whatever he is? And Mari is tryin so hard to want this guy, honey it ain't Happening. Not in 2018.
I thought rafie and eddyboy were gonna
Finish off rog, they chickened out? He
Is gonna be worst than before the hit
And face smash. I hope eddy got other
License plates.
Ren wasn't humiliated, she sure know how to Turn al every way but loose, those crock tears, the fake hurt. And he swallowed it all.
Al and mari:
Your right blue, That pretending to be so mad at each other so they won't lip lock. So stupid.
Leo has talked himself into thinkin "its ok, I raised her,I can love her this way, It's not incest". Yuck! Deni
Really wants this guy. She should have
Him. Like I said 0 chemistry between him and mari.
Ok thank you blue lass.
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: Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 10:52:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 10:52:00 PM EDT
Cause it's not worth gettin
Demwit all up in the air about her not being good enough for his son. You saw what dem did to
Al and mari? I agree, it's not
Worth it.
Demwit all up in the air about her not being good enough for his son. You saw what dem did to
Al and mari? I agree, it's not
Worth it.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 10:58:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 10:58:00 PM EDT
"Leonardo takes Mariela out for dinner-and-a-snog at The Only Restaurant in Puebla, which of course acts as a giant cosmic magnet for Alfonso and Renata. Al and Leo nearly come to blows, while Ren stands around, as useless as a coat-check girl. Finally Al pronounces that some people "are not worth fighting over...or even crying over" and stalks off. Leo sees no reason why this should ruin their evening, which kind of shows why he has trouble keeping girlfriends."
Just had to quote the whole first paragraph because it was soooo fine. As were the "which makes us like him more (Mariela's dad) and "which makes us like him less (Leonardo)"
Also loved "bubbles over like a root beer float" and "Marcia trying to punch way above her weight class".
And while we're talking about hair (and yes, I agree, Rafaela's grows in a magical way...wish mine would) has anyone else noticed how they have darkened Lety's hair and made her more attractive? At the beginning of the story her hair was more mousy brown. (You can see it in the credits) but now it's a rich dark color and really brings out her sparkle. The wan, rather liverish Santiago is indeed a lucky guy.
Steve, they're keeping the noviazgo secret because Lety is of the servidumbre class and also Demian Dad tried to sexually assault her at one point and that's why they left his house. Family dynamics are murky.
Blue Lass, that was delightful. Amazed you can do that after a day of jury duty. Thanks.
Just had to quote the whole first paragraph because it was soooo fine. As were the "which makes us like him more (Mariela's dad) and "which makes us like him less (Leonardo)"
Also loved "bubbles over like a root beer float" and "Marcia trying to punch way above her weight class".
And while we're talking about hair (and yes, I agree, Rafaela's grows in a magical way...wish mine would) has anyone else noticed how they have darkened Lety's hair and made her more attractive? At the beginning of the story her hair was more mousy brown. (You can see it in the credits) but now it's a rich dark color and really brings out her sparkle. The wan, rather liverish Santiago is indeed a lucky guy.
Steve, they're keeping the noviazgo secret because Lety is of the servidumbre class and also Demian Dad tried to sexually assault her at one point and that's why they left his house. Family dynamics are murky.
Blue Lass, that was delightful. Amazed you can do that after a day of jury duty. Thanks.
Blue--Jury Duty served you well. Your recap was Stellar. Creative. Engrossing. Light-hearted. Served with Snark. Which the proceedings you attended probably were not. Thank you.
Doris--You said, "Rafi is good with numbers, so would she have noticed the company is in trouble after looking at Dem's spread sheets?" (Well, she's been spreading on his sheets for awhile now, but never mind.) Rafie has known the company has been in financial trouble for some time now. Like most fraudsters and embezzlers, when times are good it's a gravy train and fancy accounting doesn't raise eyebrows among the investors. Dem's in a liquidity problem that puts the whole empire in jeopardy.
I wonder, though why now, all of a sudden there's some push back on her part. Is she seeing herself implicated in the scheme to the tune of jail time? She's sick of Dem as a partner and lover so that might be her motivation, too. But she also, don't forget, wants a chunk of Ren's supposed wealth, which Dem wants to take.
If he's successful (which we know he won't) in getting Al and Ren married, will he be able to control Al long enough to take over management of Ren's wealth. The joke will be on him when he finds out she's been conning him. Ren I don't think knows Quadrum is almost bankrupt.
What I don't understand is that if that hotel-retail complex is so valuable, why aren't they raking in the money?
Doris--You said, "Rafi is good with numbers, so would she have noticed the company is in trouble after looking at Dem's spread sheets?" (Well, she's been spreading on his sheets for awhile now, but never mind.) Rafie has known the company has been in financial trouble for some time now. Like most fraudsters and embezzlers, when times are good it's a gravy train and fancy accounting doesn't raise eyebrows among the investors. Dem's in a liquidity problem that puts the whole empire in jeopardy.
I wonder, though why now, all of a sudden there's some push back on her part. Is she seeing herself implicated in the scheme to the tune of jail time? She's sick of Dem as a partner and lover so that might be her motivation, too. But she also, don't forget, wants a chunk of Ren's supposed wealth, which Dem wants to take.
If he's successful (which we know he won't) in getting Al and Ren married, will he be able to control Al long enough to take over management of Ren's wealth. The joke will be on him when he finds out she's been conning him. Ren I don't think knows Quadrum is almost bankrupt.
What I don't understand is that if that hotel-retail complex is so valuable, why aren't they raking in the money?
"What I don't understand is that if that hotel-retail complex is so valuable, why aren't they raking in the money?" It could be the real estate is valuable but not cash flowing enough to keep them liquid. Could be poor money management,or bad investments on the part of the parent company. The Ferrers do not appear to be living to high. Dem just might not be the smart businessman he fancies himself to be.
Okay .... I have GOT to stop multi-tasking while watching my recordings of this show,,, and erasing them when I'm done watching. I could have sworn I saw a scene yesterday where Rog was out of the hospital. Either that was a flashback I misunderstood, or my peanut butter has fermented. Ack.
One thing that bothers me . . . could Mariela and Leo have "done the deed."? They sure act like it . . . eeew.
Okay .... I have GOT to stop multi-tasking while watching my recordings of this show,,, and erasing them when I'm done watching. I could have sworn I saw a scene yesterday where Rog was out of the hospital. Either that was a flashback I misunderstood, or my peanut butter has fermented. Ack.
One thing that bothers me . . . could Mariela and Leo have "done the deed."? They sure act like it . . . eeew.
doris, you make me smile. I am watching this one with “one eye” as I put it, so I never know what I might have missed.
Doris--Rog tried to leave yesterday. He got out today. It's a doozy.
I don't think Mari and Leo took a roll in the cold and mud out on that darkened mountainside. I think her feelings have cooled just a bit, especially after coming eye-to-eye with Al. Despite his bland personality, he's much more age appropriate, closer in height, and a tad cuter (sorry, my shallowness is showing.)
Sadly, I think Mai is right now into the "I owe him so much, how can I deny him," stage.
I don't think Mari and Leo took a roll in the cold and mud out on that darkened mountainside. I think her feelings have cooled just a bit, especially after coming eye-to-eye with Al. Despite his bland personality, he's much more age appropriate, closer in height, and a tad cuter (sorry, my shallowness is showing.)
Sadly, I think Mai is right now into the "I owe him so much, how can I deny him," stage.
Anita - yes, Rog is home today. Ugh.....
Nope, you're not shallow, just practical. The almost-kiss between our protags today had more chemistry than their past scenes, IMHO.
And I did not erase this one in case I need to rewatch anything.
Nope, you're not shallow, just practical. The almost-kiss between our protags today had more chemistry than their past scenes, IMHO.
And I did not erase this one in case I need to rewatch anything.
I truly think Mari wants someone to find out the real reason why she derailed the wedding. Too many of her friends (and Al) suspect something, especially when she says, I can't tell you the real reason....."
Fun with spammers
Before the spam message is gone, click on the name, click the three dots, Report Abuse, Report Profile, Spam
Before the spam message is gone, click on the name, click the three dots, Report Abuse, Report Profile, Spam
I'm sorry I missed the spammer. I was eating dinner. Thanks Jarifa for giving us some direction to take,besides just deleting it.
Friday Bunnycap, Part 1:
Greetings all and welcome to Alternate Puebla, where today's theme is "people looking at each other really funny." Sorry, but there it is.
Antonio and Denise congratulate each other on the interior decoration of Ant's new depa. (Deni's taste in furniture is not what I would expect from someone who dresses like she escaped from Romper Room. Hey, maybe she has a split personality! Nah, there's not enough episodes left.) Antonio invites her to dinner and then tells her to bring Mariela. She looks at him like this is the dorkiest thing ever, which it is.
Lety and Santi smirk secretively in separate locations while everyone wonders what they just ate.
Liso invites Cris to move in with him, and Cris is so overcome with emotion that diners at other tables are staring.
Antonio finds out from one of those nondescript guys who's always telling him stuff that Leo was the prime suspect in Luci's murder. He visits Mari's mother's grave, where he begs for forgiveness and promises he'll always define their daughter, even if it's from her foster father himself. Too late for that, dude.
Greetings all and welcome to Alternate Puebla, where today's theme is "people looking at each other really funny." Sorry, but there it is.
Antonio and Denise congratulate each other on the interior decoration of Ant's new depa. (Deni's taste in furniture is not what I would expect from someone who dresses like she escaped from Romper Room. Hey, maybe she has a split personality! Nah, there's not enough episodes left.) Antonio invites her to dinner and then tells her to bring Mariela. She looks at him like this is the dorkiest thing ever, which it is.
Lety and Santi smirk secretively in separate locations while everyone wonders what they just ate.
Liso invites Cris to move in with him, and Cris is so overcome with emotion that diners at other tables are staring.
Antonio finds out from one of those nondescript guys who's always telling him stuff that Leo was the prime suspect in Luci's murder. He visits Mari's mother's grave, where he begs for forgiveness and promises he'll always define their daughter, even if it's from her foster father himself. Too late for that, dude.
Friday Bunnycap, Part 2:
Rogelio's zipperface freaks everyone out as he exits the hospital. He runs Elena out of her own house and then calls Dan to arrange a meeting.
Santi warns Dem that the new investor could end up with a little too much influence at Quadrum if they don't manage to turn the corner on the debt pretty quickly. Nevertheless, he signs the papers. Al convinces Sara to do the same.
Dan sends Olga (Dutch mama) to Cefiro for help in reporting Dorte's (Dutch daughter) disappearance. There are lots of people around at the police station, so Preciado has to act all normal and re-open the case.
Fabricio and Renata hit the sheets. She swears she has Alonso eating out of her hand.
Rogelio's zipperface freaks everyone out as he exits the hospital. He runs Elena out of her own house and then calls Dan to arrange a meeting.
Santi warns Dem that the new investor could end up with a little too much influence at Quadrum if they don't manage to turn the corner on the debt pretty quickly. Nevertheless, he signs the papers. Al convinces Sara to do the same.
Dan sends Olga (Dutch mama) to Cefiro for help in reporting Dorte's (Dutch daughter) disappearance. There are lots of people around at the police station, so Preciado has to act all normal and re-open the case.
Fabricio and Renata hit the sheets. She swears she has Alonso eating out of her hand.
Friday Bunnycap, Part 3:
Alonso sees Dem threatening Mari in the hallway and follows her back to her office demanding to know what they were talking about. He knows it wasn't just about Santi's health. She threatens to call security, and they're almost in a lip-lock when Leo looms up behind them like a yeti and kills the moment.
Tonight's game of adolescent telephone: Santi pressures Mari to ask Leo to warn Al about Renata. Yeah, that'll end well.
Rog goes to the church to spill to Father Dan about everything he's done -- and he has summoned Demian to the meeting as well. Dan warns them that none of it is under the confessional seal and he can and will report it to the authorities. Dem says it's all lies. I have to admit I have no idea what's going on here: did Rog have a change of heart? It doesn't seem likely. And why drag Dem into it? Guess we'll have to wait until Monday to find out...
Alonso sees Dem threatening Mari in the hallway and follows her back to her office demanding to know what they were talking about. He knows it wasn't just about Santi's health. She threatens to call security, and they're almost in a lip-lock when Leo looms up behind them like a yeti and kills the moment.
Tonight's game of adolescent telephone: Santi pressures Mari to ask Leo to warn Al about Renata. Yeah, that'll end well.
Rog goes to the church to spill to Father Dan about everything he's done -- and he has summoned Demian to the meeting as well. Dan warns them that none of it is under the confessional seal and he can and will report it to the authorities. Dem says it's all lies. I have to admit I have no idea what's going on here: did Rog have a change of heart? It doesn't seem likely. And why drag Dem into it? Guess we'll have to wait until Monday to find out...
Thank you for your snarky bunnycap, Blue Lass!
Leo looked like a Yeti whose favorite dog just died. I'm so over this guy!!!
Who puts white upholstered chairs at their dining room table? Antonio and his friends must be very neat eaters. That sure would not survive in our house.
The Liso/Cris scene was sweet, and Cris will probably have the U-Haul packed by tomorrow. They are a nice couple.
Rog might want to consider wearing a bag over his head, a la the Unknown Comic. (Oy! My age is showing!)
Otherwise, dogs will howl and babies will cry.
Renata was rockin' the hot pants & pirate boots today, mateys. Arrrrgh. She's working double shifts with Al and not-so-Fab. Skankzilla.
Confessing to Unpadre Dan would help me mark off a Bingo square, but doing it with Dem there doesn't seem like the brightest idea.
Eighth grade hijinks, for sure, because on what grounds would Al take Leo's warning about Ren serious?
Leo looked like a Yeti whose favorite dog just died. I'm so over this guy!!!
Who puts white upholstered chairs at their dining room table? Antonio and his friends must be very neat eaters. That sure would not survive in our house.
The Liso/Cris scene was sweet, and Cris will probably have the U-Haul packed by tomorrow. They are a nice couple.
Rog might want to consider wearing a bag over his head, a la the Unknown Comic. (Oy! My age is showing!)
Otherwise, dogs will howl and babies will cry.
Renata was rockin' the hot pants & pirate boots today, mateys. Arrrrgh. She's working double shifts with Al and not-so-Fab. Skankzilla.
Confessing to Unpadre Dan would help me mark off a Bingo square, but doing it with Dem there doesn't seem like the brightest idea.
Eighth grade hijinks, for sure, because on what grounds would Al take Leo's warning about Ren serious?
5ft--That was you I should be thanking, not Jarifa. Anyway, a spam message showed up in LQNPA Elenco and I tried your method. Unfortunately clicking on the name took me right to "How to Remove Pimples" and the three dots disappeared. When I clicked on the three dots first, the message went away (briefly). Ah well.
I think Santi wants Lisandro to talk to Al, folks. I'll rewatch tomorrow. I thought I heard him say that Liso is Al's BFF, so it couldn't be Leo.
Blue--Another masterpiece. I'll be back for more praise tomorrow.
I think Santi wants Lisandro to talk to Al, folks. I'll rewatch tomorrow. I thought I heard him say that Liso is Al's BFF, so it couldn't be Leo.
Blue--Another masterpiece. I'll be back for more praise tomorrow.
doris, skankzilla and bag on the head/unknown comic: very funny!
Thank you, Blue Lass. “ . . . looms behind him like a yeti.” Perfect!
No hope for Elena. I am still hoping for some complication to do Rogelio in.
I felt bad for Denise with what she thought might be a date turning out to be just dinner with Mariela present.
So, Antonio is going to be the one to ride to the rescue and restore Mariela’s world. I loved seeing Demián(that was the worst I saw his hair in the whole novela—the color was super red brown and it looked like a seam on his forehead) being snookered into Antonio becoming a partner.
Rog could come down with a nice case of that flesh-eating bacteria infection and lose his whole face - which would be a nice anvil for him.
Or Dem could get his henchman Rog to take out Ro.... oh, wait ... conflict of interest there. Okay, Dem would have to run an ad on Craigslist and hire a new hit man to take out Rog. Demián will have to check new guy's references, get a background check, issue him a cell phone and the standard bad guy kit ... What a pain! it's not easy being a villain these days. Maybe just doing the job himself will work? He already killed his wife and got away with it.
Or Dem could get his henchman Rog to take out Ro.... oh, wait ... conflict of interest there. Okay, Dem would have to run an ad on Craigslist and hire a new hit man to take out Rog. Demián will have to check new guy's references, get a background check, issue him a cell phone and the standard bad guy kit ... What a pain! it's not easy being a villain these days. Maybe just doing the job himself will work? He already killed his wife and got away with it.
Greatly enjoyed the bunnycap this morning Blue Lass and all the sassy comments as well. Like everybody else, this was my favorite line:
"She threatens to call security, and they're almost in a lip-lock when Leo looms up behind them like a yeti and kills the moment."
Never thought I could loathe this handsome actor but I sure do now. Guess we'll have to credit him with doing a good job of playing a middle aged creep.
Jarifa, I too felt a little sorry for Denise, who certainly needs building up right now; but at the same time relieved that Antonio seems to be moving more resolutely towards rescuing his abandoned daughter and cleaning up his own murky past.
Very worried about the meeting with Padre Dan. Don't think this is going to end well for our Padre.Cain and Abel started a regrettable trend in human choices. And Dan's pretty much my favorite character now that Sara is so nasty to Mariela.
Happy Saturday everyone. Hope your weekend is promising.And delivers!
"She threatens to call security, and they're almost in a lip-lock when Leo looms up behind them like a yeti and kills the moment."
Never thought I could loathe this handsome actor but I sure do now. Guess we'll have to credit him with doing a good job of playing a middle aged creep.
Jarifa, I too felt a little sorry for Denise, who certainly needs building up right now; but at the same time relieved that Antonio seems to be moving more resolutely towards rescuing his abandoned daughter and cleaning up his own murky past.
Very worried about the meeting with Padre Dan. Don't think this is going to end well for our Padre.Cain and Abel started a regrettable trend in human choices. And Dan's pretty much my favorite character now that Sara is so nasty to Mariela.
Happy Saturday everyone. Hope your weekend is promising.And delivers!
Whoops! I meant Liso, not Leo, in the adolescent telephone game. Thanks for catching that.
Carol Burnett used to have a skit that took place in the Old West, and every time a woman of ill repute was mentioned Carol would screw up her face and shout, "OO! AH! ICKY! POO!" That's the way I feel every time Leo and Mari kiss. Bleeeeyach.
Jarifa, I'm with you and the flesh-eating bacteria. I don't think I want to sit at the flesh-eating bacteria table, though. I'll just sit her alone at the Lety's Kitty T-Shirt table, sipping my Pink Pussycat through a straw.
Carol Burnett used to have a skit that took place in the Old West, and every time a woman of ill repute was mentioned Carol would screw up her face and shout, "OO! AH! ICKY! POO!" That's the way I feel every time Leo and Mari kiss. Bleeeeyach.
Jarifa, I'm with you and the flesh-eating bacteria. I don't think I want to sit at the flesh-eating bacteria table, though. I'll just sit her alone at the Lety's Kitty T-Shirt table, sipping my Pink Pussycat through a straw.
Blue Lass--Right now I don't feel like sitting at anyone's table. If Antonio weren't so fixated on Denise and Mariela (yeah, poor Deni), I might want to talk to him some. He seems like a decent fellow and has figured out a lot of things, thanks to his investigator, whose name is Luque (or Luke)--and it's been the same guy all along.
Geeee. It’s about time Al figured out something, . .well, sort- of - upon seeing Dem and Mari chatting angrily up close and personal!
Writers have taken this Elena thing way too far now, meaning she is beyond a ragdoll. Getting very annoying and stupid.
Yeah, I agree that this little 3 way chat between Rog and Dem and Unpadre Danny cannot end well since there are 2 dangerous psychopaths and one do-gooder all within inches of one another. But i would think Dem has a couple of backup henchmen....but not so sure what Rogelio is up to since we are not close enough to the end...UNLESS G_d forbid, Danny becomes - - shall we say “incapacitated.”
Though i should be accustomed to it after years of watching, i still am always so frustrated in these TNs that people keep asking someone a question where the answer is guaranteed a denial or i “dont know what u are talking about, “ etc...and often alerts the bad guy as to what the PLAN is, what he/she should absolutely NOT know about - - maybe its partly a cultural thing- that the Mexicans Are more naieve ?
Writers have taken this Elena thing way too far now, meaning she is beyond a ragdoll. Getting very annoying and stupid.
Yeah, I agree that this little 3 way chat between Rog and Dem and Unpadre Danny cannot end well since there are 2 dangerous psychopaths and one do-gooder all within inches of one another. But i would think Dem has a couple of backup henchmen....but not so sure what Rogelio is up to since we are not close enough to the end...UNLESS G_d forbid, Danny becomes - - shall we say “incapacitated.”
Though i should be accustomed to it after years of watching, i still am always so frustrated in these TNs that people keep asking someone a question where the answer is guaranteed a denial or i “dont know what u are talking about, “ etc...and often alerts the bad guy as to what the PLAN is, what he/she should absolutely NOT know about - - maybe its partly a cultural thing- that the Mexicans Are more naieve ?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 3:28:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 3:28:00 PM EDT
NAIVE! Spelling error. Cant blame that on autocorrect
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 3:31:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 3:31:00 PM EDT
Amotelenovelas, more “naive?” IMHO, I don’t think so. I just see it as an accepted, effective and overused convention that is an easy way to keep the action going when writers don’t want to put on their thinking caps and try to be more creative or have a limited time frame to complete some aspect of the plot.
It's that even if the characters hearing these words don't always believe the teller, where else can they go?
As a group, these characters should turn the tables on the "I don't know what you are talking about" bunch and explain that they are in a telenovela and are required to answer with something else besides that tired old phrase.
As a group, these characters should turn the tables on the "I don't know what you are talking about" bunch and explain that they are in a telenovela and are required to answer with something else besides that tired old phrase.
"maybe its partly a cultural thing- that the Mexicans Are more naieve ?"
Stop for a minute and consider what your reaction would be to someone whose entire exposure to American culture is soap operas who wonders if maybe the people in them just act that way because Americans are stupid.
Stop for a minute and consider what your reaction would be to someone whose entire exposure to American culture is soap operas who wonders if maybe the people in them just act that way because Americans are stupid.
5ft - soap operas are Mensa Club while I shudder over so-called-"reality" TV shows and how they can affect foreigners' opinions of our culture.
Really, there’s only one guy? That Luque guy? I swear, he’s so unmemorable I don’t even recognize him from scene to scene.
By naive, of course I do not mean stupid--by no means. I'm simply saying that ---If a character asks- "Were you by chance the one who killed my sister?"--It seems that these characters actually expect an answer: An extreme example perhaps but you get the idea. And YES, I do wonder sometimes if it's all just a matter of "telenovela acting" or if perhaps there is a culturally component here ---a more confrontational approach with actual expectations for some sort of honesty. hard to explain.
Anita- Your comment cracked me up!! "As a group, these characters should turn the tables on the "I don't know what you are talking about" bunch and explain that they are in a telenovela and are required to answer with something else besides that tired old phrase."
We should--as a group walk on the set one day and confront these guys!!!!
Anita- Your comment cracked me up!! "As a group, these characters should turn the tables on the "I don't know what you are talking about" bunch and explain that they are in a telenovela and are required to answer with something else besides that tired old phrase."
We should--as a group walk on the set one day and confront these guys!!!!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 11:26:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 11:26:00 PM EDT
amot -it is always fun when a character actually does know he/she is in a telenovela and surrenders to it. 😎
I've decided some things after a decade (only) of watching telenovelas:
The amount of dialog required to be memorized and rehearsed by the actors who are cast in novela after novela, is so voluminous that script writers help by--a) using familiar phrases over and over again; b) standardizing the vocabulary, and c) using a formulaic, almost ritualistic, basis for the story.
Even breakout genres like EHDLS and La Candidata are full of repetitive phrases, settings and confrontations..."I know you killed my child" and "I don't know what you are talking about."
We are the ones who get tired of the phrases...the nuncas and para siempres, nada ni nadie nos separa, but I think we should give these hard working folks a break when they look into their love interest's eyes and say..."You are the love of my life" and say it with conviction.
Perhaps we should be grateful that there are things that irritate and annoy us. Do we want sugar and syrup for 75 hours? We're watching, not doing the writing, directing nor acting. Maybe, just maybe, once in awhile, they are meant to irritate and annoy.
However, I do NOT give a pass to the true duds which can't pass muster with either the writing or directing, letting it fall to the actors to try to save the show. I bet we could all come up with some of the worst tns. I can start off with the most recent dud I can think of--Vino el Amor. Then I can reach back to El Talisman. Why these? Where does the fault lie?
I haven't watched as many tns as perhaps the rest of you have. But tell me, when you think of Jorge Salinas' performance in LQNPA to what he was called on to do in Que Bonito Amor, the writing and directing DOES have something to do with our approbation and enjoyment. If we want to watch Jorge Salinas, then we have to take the good and the bad. If we only want to watch a show that satisfies all of our yearnings, the list shrinks decidedly.
Where oh where are the Alboradas, Pasiones, Amores Reales, CMEs, Reinas de Corazones (which was, I admit, a first class farce) of the past?
I can't address comedies. They are not my forte. We're watching CQM, which is not a comedy, nor dramedy, so don't hit me with any nerfazos. Ok, I know, it's Sunday and I should get off the soap box. I'll go cool my tootsies in the limpid pool, ask for a pina colada and enjoy the company of the patrons of the Patio of Lowered Expectations.
The amount of dialog required to be memorized and rehearsed by the actors who are cast in novela after novela, is so voluminous that script writers help by--a) using familiar phrases over and over again; b) standardizing the vocabulary, and c) using a formulaic, almost ritualistic, basis for the story.
Even breakout genres like EHDLS and La Candidata are full of repetitive phrases, settings and confrontations..."I know you killed my child" and "I don't know what you are talking about."
We are the ones who get tired of the phrases...the nuncas and para siempres, nada ni nadie nos separa, but I think we should give these hard working folks a break when they look into their love interest's eyes and say..."You are the love of my life" and say it with conviction.
Perhaps we should be grateful that there are things that irritate and annoy us. Do we want sugar and syrup for 75 hours? We're watching, not doing the writing, directing nor acting. Maybe, just maybe, once in awhile, they are meant to irritate and annoy.
However, I do NOT give a pass to the true duds which can't pass muster with either the writing or directing, letting it fall to the actors to try to save the show. I bet we could all come up with some of the worst tns. I can start off with the most recent dud I can think of--Vino el Amor. Then I can reach back to El Talisman. Why these? Where does the fault lie?
I haven't watched as many tns as perhaps the rest of you have. But tell me, when you think of Jorge Salinas' performance in LQNPA to what he was called on to do in Que Bonito Amor, the writing and directing DOES have something to do with our approbation and enjoyment. If we want to watch Jorge Salinas, then we have to take the good and the bad. If we only want to watch a show that satisfies all of our yearnings, the list shrinks decidedly.
Where oh where are the Alboradas, Pasiones, Amores Reales, CMEs, Reinas de Corazones (which was, I admit, a first class farce) of the past?
I can't address comedies. They are not my forte. We're watching CQM, which is not a comedy, nor dramedy, so don't hit me with any nerfazos. Ok, I know, it's Sunday and I should get off the soap box. I'll go cool my tootsies in the limpid pool, ask for a pina colada and enjoy the company of the patrons of the Patio of Lowered Expectations.
Oh, Amot-- "Has anyone heard about "Mañana será otro día" which stars Diego Oliveri and Angelica Vale? Will this be coming soon? This might be a good one!!"
I just checked it out on Wikipedia. It's a 2018 production by Carlos Moreno Laguillo (one of my favorite producers). I'm sure we'll get it--no telling when.
I just checked it out on Wikipedia. It's a 2018 production by Carlos Moreno Laguillo (one of my favorite producers). I'm sure we'll get it--no telling when.
YES, Anita. You are so correct that we need to lower our expectations sometimes and just be grateful that we have a nightly escape followed by a fabulous recap!!!
However, though i was interested in following up on this new, upcoming “Mañana sera....” TN, i have to wonder how I’ll feel about seeing Diego after being quite turned off by him for soooooo many weeks. But, fortunately, my brain seems to be able to miraculously forget and readjust to these characters’ new, sometimes polar opposite personalities. When i first see them, i think i wont be able to and then, voilà, my memory of previous role magically disappears. They should study that. Of course, it also helps to be a “suspension of disbelief” types so that probably helps. 😂😂
However, though i was interested in following up on this new, upcoming “Mañana sera....” TN, i have to wonder how I’ll feel about seeing Diego after being quite turned off by him for soooooo many weeks. But, fortunately, my brain seems to be able to miraculously forget and readjust to these characters’ new, sometimes polar opposite personalities. When i first see them, i think i wont be able to and then, voilà, my memory of previous role magically disappears. They should study that. Of course, it also helps to be a “suspension of disbelief” types so that probably helps. 😂😂
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:02:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:02:00 PM EDT
Oh, Good to know!!! What a relief! And a good opportunity for him to recover his reputation. As you see, i’m now “Amot.”
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:33:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:33:00 PM EDT
Amot--Glad you don't mind. Your full handle meant too much typing. Of course, in French it means a "word" so you're still in the comment game.
YES! It was very annoying to type it so I’m happy with my new nom de plume!!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 10:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 10:17:00 PM EDT
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