Caray, Caray!

Was it not true telenovela to diminish the heroics of Leon-in-Chino? The fisticuffs or codazo? cuff (some kind of -azo) was begun by Lucia. She had to soften up the thug before Jacobo got his shot.

Val sure let Eva bully her.

I can't believe that Jacobo dropped his AK-47 to be found by a thug, tho I guess it wud be hard to swim with it.

I am always annoyed at fake swimming where the heroes have whole head out of the water; you just can't swim that way longer than very briefly. Little more than the mouth shud be out of the water unless the swimmer wants to drown.

It really isn't time to celebrate in the water yet. They ain't out of the woods yet. Seemed like they didn't know what to do once they had (temporarily) got clear of the thugs. They didn't check their bodies for leaches. Where are the alligators & snakes?

I wonder if that river is the same that has the falls. So if they fool around too much they could go over it? Or are they past the falls? Will they take refuge in the moth cave? I spose if they do, La Muerte has to put some guilt trip on Leon. But who would do the shaman dance for him? Maybe they will call in Lopez Obrador. Didn't the Obrador bring in shamans for his inauguration, eschewing the usual santaria? I guess I should check out the inaug for black moths.

That old shaman sure did look dead. I was wondering if he would take up residence in his daughter. Or could he reside in Val, though Julie might not dig it.

I predicted that the thug who reported the bad news to the patron would be executed. He needed to leave the country quick. BTW, I was looking at a summary of the Mexican constitution where it was declaring something like no Mexican needs a passport to leave or enter Mexico.


 

Great escape like in a movie "Romancing the Stone". Luci kept promise about a beso.
 

Loved the screen shot UA and the "doe-eyes" description of our sweet little secretary (too sweet for Guillermo but juarever). Will look forward to seeing the fisticuffs and besos later on today. Sorry the snake's owner got bumped off. As far as murderous thugs go, I thought he was rather charming...had a sense of humor, the lad. Ah well, gone too soon.

Thanks from all of us who read this blog and enjoy the recaps and patio.
 

Urban ! Fun write-up, and punctual too :-) Thanks. This moves so fast, recaps are almost essential.

Aaarrrggghhh, that got me too, Leon abandoning his rifle. BTW most of those are immune to water. You just hold it up, shake the major water out, and you are good to go. In his defense, he may have wasted all his bullets shooting trees and as he had no more, the rifle turns into a simple club.

I hopeo Rulli is not watching this, I'd betcha HE has never seen her without a molecule of makeup. Brave little gal.

Enoch, I am on the same page. How do these goonarifics outsmart the good guys time and again when they don't SEEM to be that smart. Ole Choofus should have had better sense than to report back to SuperGoon that the Chipmunk and BooBoo had slipped away. Maybe they are not as smart as they appear when they always are one up on the good guys. Does it have more to do with the fact that they have no rules, and work as a pack?

This little Death Chick sure has odd timing. If I ever get a chance to be a client, I don't know, if I didn't have huge unfinished business, I might just pass pass. She's kind mischievous, I bet she'd stick me in a Sumo wrestler or some homeless dude sleeping in a dumpster.

Anon: yes Lucia kept her end of the Beso Bargain after he started leaving her floating like the turd she is in that river. That's like Mr. Goodwrench showing up at your house once a month with a gun to get your car payment. Although after that she appeared to enthusiastically pay her bill. I was wondering if she planned on adding in a late payment fee right there in that river. It was for sure private.
 

Thank you, Urban, this was a great read, especially since I missed the moment when Leonchi gave up on the rifle.
But what got to me was how our two escapees kept running from the bad guys but at the same time loudly called eachother's names. Not too smart, if you ask me.

So now that Lucia kept her promise (die anyone ever think that she wouldn't?), how long before they find some abandoned shack, build a fire and start stripping (get rid of the wet clothes, you know)?

As to the highly incompetent police force (was there ever a good cop in a telenovela?), what are they waiting for to go search for Lucia? Some out of the blue clue to fall into their laps? Do they even have the slightest idea where to begin?

I don't think Eva was wrong to ask Val to stay home (even if I didn't like her way of talking, either). For all they know the people who took Lucia could be after the rest of the family, too. Why is Guille even at work, anyway? Shouldn't they all be under police supervision or something?

So Lucho thinks that Val's family drama is a good moment for him to play matchmaker and almost start a party of four at the Carvajal house? Val better dump him soon, he's much too insensitive and clueless, in my book.
 

Yes, Little Miss Renata is an order of magnitude too sweet for brooding, totally messed up Gooberillermo .
She is far past just attractive, without being over the top like her roomie or Karla with her paint brush eyelashes. From what we have seen, she is an efficient, organized assistant, and to top it off she is just 100% pure, All Girl. Like when she and Kayla were girling and big boss Gooberillermo walked in. It was just too cute.

“No News of the Escape”? Ya, I too am surprised the goons haven’t called Carvajal and said: “Hey the little bitch and her chofer got away, have they made it back? Yeah, well, give us a call if they show up, we were kinda in the middle of something.” And was Val adopted? Like from Ethiopia? I mean, has she eaten this year?

Val and Juli and Lugo...zzzzzz ….unless they decide to take another swim or shower together or something more interesting than texting back and forth on the phones.

Boy the mini-goon with the gun sure got a shock with Karla. If you’ve done it once already, you certainly are not afraid of dying, right Karla? I thought for a minute she was just going to take his gun, as she has shown a new interest in gunmanship.

Since the liquor store victim is going to be in a wheel chair the rest of his life I have a suggestion. Guille needs to turn prosecution’s witness and turn in his turd eating accomplice. And he would be easily convicted, but rather than send him to jail with free room and board for---ever make him care for his victim the rest of his life.
The fellow is going to need someone to push his wheelchair around, feed him, wipe his butt, bathe him, you know those things. Let the shooter do it for E V E R. Of course, I have thought of that: He might begin to have some resistance after a while, like fifteen seconds into this. Simple, he wears one of those dog training shock collars, you know, the ones that disable a rabid pit bull in mid attack? Give wheelchair guy the remote. Put a RFID device in the remote where if it is more than a couple of feet from the victim, it activates. Should stop the perp from taking it away.
 

That would probably be the only thing to keep him from doing this again. Tonio has no empathy, no compassion. He is worthless as a human being.

Eva would happily wipe out her siblings if that would leave her with everything their father owned. She is colder than an Antarctic winter.

To bad that goon got shot; I was hoping for his snake to swallow him in the finale.
 

Thanks, Urban! Wow, so much action last night! I looked at the clock and before I knew it, it was already half over...and that just goes to show what a good show this.

Tee escape was believable; at least it wasn't one of those where they manage to release themselves from the ropes that are tied by people who should konw how to tie hands so tha they don't get free.

Enoch, good observations on the fake swimming and lack of predators in the water.

JudyB, I agree that Chuspas was a mischievous little thug...with a twisted sense of humor, but he wasn't as quick with the trigger as Alacran is.

Adriana, it got to me too that Leonchi and Lucia kept shouting out for each other. How insane was that? And finding a shack for a "dry run" would be nice to see. I also agree with Eva telling Val to stay put for obvious reasons...but she could have used a more caring and nurturing tone of voice. Can't believe Guille went to work either.

Colomb-illa really let me down; he was doing so well. He really missed an opportunity to corner JohnEvil.

It seems like these transmigration victims have a deathwish; or are they so confident in not dying that they can dare someone to shoot them point blank as Karla did last night...and Leonchi did when he was at the cemetery?. And why is Karla asking for a gun? Is she going to go back and shoot the idiots that took her money?

 

Much Thanks Urban for the very helpful resumen:

When does Lucho get the hint that luchar por Val no vale la pena?

The thugs were rather careless in view of the tendency of El Patron to eat pet rabbits.
Sometimes I wish I cud take up the guillon pen & rewrite low-believables, like smooching after long captivity & a night of sleep w/out toothpaste or dental floss, mints, mouthwash, etc. Ufah.

Fictitious story dept: Of course TNs sustain the plot by having everyone lie all the way thru the story. Does Julie actually believe that Chino was an electrician? Kind of black humor.

John-E(for evil)Angel seems 2B alienating the affections of his politicians.

Is it possible that the old shaman can shake off La Muerte? Or do the moth-mancha transfer? Whose cuerpo shud he desea?

Do U reckon Karla will shoot her some thug-gamblers? Rob them & leave them wearing only barrels & straps?

I don't expect this since it is a (male-wimp) telenovela, but I wud enjoy a scene where Mateo found Eva & Alarcon in flagrante, then took a sledge hammer to the Alarcon cabeza. Now what shud he do to Eva?

I was surprised that Alicia actually got Chino-in-Beltran to go to a shrink shed - wasn't that the offices of a shrink that we saw them at?

Humorous how the crystal ball wud do 0 w/ Barb, but lit up immediately after she left. Maybe she has bad breath? or the ball just don't like her.

Why didn't Karla seize the improbable opportunity to develop a romance w/ her husband at the bar?

I don't know who "Sanchez-Bueno" is & don't recall that pistol fondling scene.

Juliana called Valentina, who told her there was no news.

Am I correct that Renata's (more attractive than she is) roomie also works at the Prensa w/ her?

I am wondering is Valerio's daughter can get the old goat to revive?
Of course in a program like this, which wud endorse necromancy, we might see daughter contact the dead goat who will tell her what happened. Actually necromancy is a dangerous sport.

Luke 16 "And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that they that would pass from hence to you may not be able, and that none may cross over from thence to us." (story of Lazarus & the Rich man).

Isaiah 8 "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits and unto the wizards, that chirp and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? on behalf of the living should they seek unto the dead?

W/ necromancy there is the danger that instead of contacting the beloved dead person, one plugs into a demon impersonator.

Of course Willy will keep guilty-fooling around w/ the guy who was shot until they smell a rat. Willy may get exposed, then in jail. I think maybe Renata has become an accessory to the crime by way of aiding a cover-up.

Of course you can't swim a long time w/ clothes on like that, nor with head lifted up.
Lucia was recently cold at night. Yet the swimmers don't seem a bit cold. Maybe they had a warm front come in. If they were in pain, they seemed to get over it quick.

Poor snake orphan. He probably already likes Lucia & may w/ jealousy get between Lucia & Jacobo when they are kissing. Maybe he will slither into her bed. IMHO the smooching is not believable at this point; they would be concentrating on getting to safety.



 

" Maybe she has bad breath? or the ball just don't like her." Some women just don't know how to handle balls. Some people are not meant for sports. Lucia swimming with those stripper shoes on: I went night swimming with cowboy boots on ONCE. If not for shallow water I would have drowned . Salt water ruined the boots too.

I have to wonder what that mischievous little dead people chick is going to do with Valerio's spirit. With him, I am sure she has already thought about the fun possibilities there might be.

I was really disappointed with JohnEvil and Monty last night. Then to appease myself I decided Montillo might be playing out some line before he sets the hook.

The screaming for each other with thugs on their trail ruined that whole scene. Dumber than a box of rocks. They must have realized the escapees didn't have cell phones to text back and forth and forgot and just had them screeching.
 

Yes, Kirby, Renata is a very sympathetic character, IMHO the most sympathetic char in the story; if a tad pathetic for fixation on Willy. Yeah, Val cud use a few roast beef sandwiches.

Electric dog training collar? That wud be a last resort in dog training. I think that dogs are incredibly loyal, obedient, & well-behaved, tho getting them to understand what you want may be difficult. Contrast that with some wives who may know exactly what you want, but are delighted to do the opposite! Now it wud not be PC to put an electric dog collar on a wife! (Speaking on the other side, my mom ~ used to say she wished she had a ring thru the nose of my father & a long rope so that she could pull on it when she wanted to know where he was.)

Prosecution witness; I hadn't thot of that. Good idea. I wonder if the killer is going to somehow get the cops to believe Willy was the shooter. I predict Willy behind bars. Maybe shooter will sneak into Willy's home & swap masks. He might notify non-Columbo to check Willy's closet for a mask. Shooter may be the prosecution witness.

Who is Tonio? Lacking empathy (ability to detect others' feelings) is a personality drawback. But some may have lots of empathy, but NO sympathy: they detect the feelings quite accurately & use that to manipulate others, but do not feel their feelings (sympathy) & don't care about the hurting feelings of others. I also don't know who Chuspas is.

I don't have a clue how Eva will end up. She is the daughter of the male protagonist. At least they shud give her some STDs.
 

Tono is the Liquor store shooter Frenemy of Guille.
 

Kirby, I have to wonder if we are going to have a proliferation of these migrated spirit trans-incarnations. The bald coyote who lost a finger is one; but nothing has been done w/ him since he lost the finger. Now it will be entertaining if Valerio's spirit goes into someone. Who should it be?

Monty IMHO is no Columbo. I wish they had made him a Columbo clone.

So we are left wondering how long they will have Leon-in-Chino & Lucia in the woods. The thugs are still looking for them. Will El Patron send a helicopter? It should not be hard to write 2 weeks of woods adventures. Is there some quick sand around?
 

And yes Renata's hot friend works a few meters away from Renata at Car-Va-Hall. She has been in the story from the very beginning, always going to the coffee/fruit/snack/talkaboutmen counter with her.
 

Kirby, As a, non-speaking Spanish, fan of telenovelas, Carey, Carey... has been a blessing to me. I was so thankful to find it when I had cancer and was confined to bed. That was when I discovered telenovelas.

Your participation in Carey, Carey... is greatly appreciated. I enjoy reading your thorough and entertaining summaries, however...please remember that the purpose of this forum is to critique the story and the acting. not to make hurtful comments about the actors.

Just so you know...Angelique has been photographed often without makeup. Sebastian has seen her many times without it. There are many of us that are fans of Angie. I, for one, take offense at you calling her a "turd." It tugs at my heart to read comments like that. This forum is meant to critique the story and the acting-not to make hurtful comments about the actors.

Having said that, please know that I really do appreciate your participation in Carey, Carey.


 

Valerio's spirit could go into the likeable goon Chuspas or something. The snake goon. Now THAT would be fun.
 

Ginger,
The ref to Lucia as a T---, was not a reference to the actriz but to the papel, the character in the story. Don't you find it fair to refer to characters in the story w/ derogatory comments? I think the comment was also a reference to Leon-in-Chino's attitude towards her; how could Jacobo leave the woman in whom he is enamored in the water like that?

Don't you think that in this story Lucia is despicable for having enamored a rich man & married him with some sinister plot in mind (which has not been clearly explained)? Lucia was fornicating w/ an arch-villain in the story while marrying a decent business man.
 

Just saw this and Lucia and Jacobo are definitely a couple now. When there's a love scene in the water, this is for real and forever in telenovela land. Just sayin'. Sure hope the water was warm and the air too.

Still wondering about the frequent eye blinking of my telenovio (sorry Rgv Chick, I know you saw him first. Can I play the big sister card lie Eva?) Maybe he has contacts and they bother him. Or allergies. Hmmmn...why do I keep thinking about this?

Have a great Tuesday everybody. Cold and gray here. Typical Columbus weather plus we are dealing with the news that Urban Meyer is quitting after the Rose Bowl. This ranks as very serious news around these here parts. I miss having Carlos to talk sports with.
 

like Eva

need to proofread
 

Oh Ginger, Sorry. I was referring to Lucia, not Angelique floating down the river.
And YES I am sure she has been seen many times without makeup. I was just having a little fun with the vast difference in her looks with and without makeup. Did you see the brave little gal part? Now that was about Ms Boyer having enough wherewithall to go on camera without the benefit of makeup.

I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

Unlike some, I realize this is just a make believe show.
 

Isn't it interesting how telenovela fans can so identify the character in the story that they forget that the actriz is not the character; totally different person. I tended to think of Litzy (Dominguez) as Margarita, her papel in Amarte Asi, tho it seems clear that Litzy is no Margarita. I recall reading that in the early days of telenovelas in Mexico there was an actriz who was really despicable in her on camera role. It got that she was in danger of physical attack on the street from fans of the telenovela.

Maybe that is why they are called fans = fanatics.
 

Judy, isn't the news that Ohio State was cut out of the champ playoffs?
Is Woody Hayes still around?
 

Thank you UA, other recappers and commenters, I am usually a few days behind but I have been enjoying this story so much I am up to date.

When you have transmutation in your story (or whatever it is called,) all the normal beanie hat moments seem silly. I can just enjoy the story and characters.

Thanks for all your input and efforts.
Rena
 

Enoch, yes, there's a little desultory sniveling about not being in the playoffs but the Urban Meyer departure news is the big stuff around here today. Woody Hayes is "in a better place" as they say.
 

Rena:

what does "the normal beanie hat moments" mean? That's a new one for me.

JudyB:
Well, wherever Woody is, I reckon he is not smiting Clemson players on the field!
Better place for Woody Hayes? Wud anyone accuse Woody of having gone to the Better Place? But Quite possible: "By GRACE you have been saved thru faith . . . not of works lest anyone shud boast."

I spent some years living in a couple of little towns not too far from Columbus; my father graduated from Ohio State.

I was just thinking: Seeing as how it is so common to have unknown mistaken parentage, will we have that in this one? Is Eva actually not Leon's daughter? Do we know anything about Leon's first wife? Did she play around? What if Eva is daughter of John-E-Angel?

I have often thought that at the beginning of a telenovela there shud be a pot; like everyone put up $5 into a pot & make guesses as to the unknown mistaken/parentages to be revealed. The best guesser wins the pot at the end.

Amarte Asi was great at that theme; may have been about 10 unknown/mistaken parentages.
and usually u look for 2 sisters after 1 guy, or 2 brothers after one gal. Maybe it turns out how Leon & John-E-Angel are brothers. Is there any possibility that Val will get a crush on Alarcon? Maybe if she got a crush on Eva's husband, Eva wud get interested in him.
 

Judy, I've been meaning to mention the blinking, I'm sure it means something but I don't know what. Anyone remember if Chino used to do it, too?

The Urban Meyer guy who is leaving his team story made me google him online. Why is COLLEGE football so important in the US? I mean, it's just college, it all seems so silly (this coming from a girl who adores soccer).
 

michel brown blinks his eyes like that in general, not something that relates to the character, something that he just does like a tick
 

Adriana:
You ask why is college football important in USA? I wonder if you are an American or from some Hispanic country where colegia = preparatorio, that is what we call High School in USA (school for teenagers 14-18). In USA college = university level.

Good question as to why sports are important at all; they are just games. But for some reason people get all excited about them & gotta win. College football in USA generated a LOT of money, but the players are not supposedly paid -- which is a scandal to me as they may bust up their bodies at a dangerous job which provides a lot of entertainment, but then they aren't supposed to get even minimum wage. To me that is a crime.

I don't know why people like fútbol, soccer. To me that game is boring as the game just goes on in continuous action, like basketball (which also is boring to me as it gets down to who is the tallest & discriminates vs short people). For me fútbol has way too little scoring & basketball way too much. That's just me; we all have different tastes. As for me, baseball is boring as long as it is a game of pitch & catch. Once they get guys on the bases, it becomes interesting to me. The joy of American football to me is that it has many discrete plays which are like unique games in themselves.

But we all have different tastes. I think it is obvious that fútbol is #1 sport in popularity in the world; so that makes me odd man out.

I haven't noticed any abnormal blinking by an actor; but that must just be my lack of observation.

I refrain from making person attacks; Anon, that is what is rude.
 

no i think michel just does that as a habit or is something that he can't control
 

Kirby, I guess I misunderstood. Didn't mean any harm. I sincerely appreciate your reply.

 

Regarding Urban Meyer, my husband had a thought... He moved up his retirement and the Browns are looking for a new coach. Hmmm, would they be interested in Meyer. I would be all for him as a Cleveland Brown!


Anxious to see what happens in tonight's episode.



 

This novela is confusing enough, what with so many characters having 2 or more birth names. For this reason, I wanted to give a special thanks to those here who take the time to use one name and not numerous abbreviated and nonabbreviated ones. It makes keeping track so much easier for me.

Can anyone get the sidebar updated to show the actual current shows we are watching.?