Thursday, November 19, 2020

Imperio de mentiras, #40, Wednesday, 11/18/20 Dirty cops, painful breakups and geriatric love

Sorry this is a bit late, today my husband turns 35 - I had to run find him a present this morning, no easy task during lockdown (when in doubt, one bottle of single malt is always a good choice).

This was a good episode, things are happening, I hope my writing makes sense, not enough time to properly edit.

 For the first time in her life Teresa is acting like a good host, saying thank you to Eliesa and Fab, and offering them something to drink. She has to be doing it on purpose, because Leo’s icy stare is anything but welcoming. He wants to pay back Fabricio the money spent on Leslie, but Fab won’t hear of it, which bothers Leo even more. Eliesa explains that everything that happened was Majo’s fault, Tere eventually goes upstairs to see the girls and Fab goes to the car.

Eliesa stays behind to talk to Leo, explain the situation. Even SHE can tell that he’s not OK. He wants to know why she didn't call - there was not enough time, why was Fab with her - just a coincidence, they were talking business. Eliesa has an answer for everything, Leo is not buying anything. Maybe she thinks it’s normal to do business at that time of night,  but he doesn’t (good point). And the guy wouldn’t even take his money, who does that? (another good point). He’s not all that modern, all that cool, he’s just a cop trying to do his job. Eliesa accuses him of being jealous again, Leo thinks that she’s only buying time before a definitive break up. She’s unhappy with everything that he does and honestly, he’s really starting to dislike the role he’s playing. (And the Patio peeps are holding their breath, hoping and praying that he doesn’t lose this new found rage). Eliesa says that the girls are OK, this is all that matters, and he can call her when he’s willing to listen and to understand blindly.

Teresa is not too upset that her 15 year old child was in a bar, drinking alcohol and maybe, perhaps, almost doing drugs. She wants to know the gossip about Fab, Elisa and Leo. What is that all about? (The Patio would like a definitive answer on this unfortunate triangle, too). Clara tries to say it’s no big deal, but Tere is having a blast supposing that once again Leo is being taken for a fool (can’t argue here). Leslie tries to stop her, but Tere loves the chisme too much. Pobrecito Leo, first Julia proves to be a delinquent, now this. Leslie points out that Clara is standing just there, Tere looks ashamed (no, she does not). The scene is actually funny, how can anyone root for Teresa when she's being so petty?

JL is visiting with Nieves (!), offering to help. She’s upset with him because he hasn’t been in touch at all since Julia’s death (!!) and in order to defend Clara from Cobra she had to tell Leo the truth. Just that her daughter is working with him out of necessity, nothing else (!!!) JL promises to protect them both, but she has to keep her mouth shut in front of Leo.

While the Patio tries to wrap their minds around this new turn of events, may I suggest that it was JL who connected Julia to Cobra? Leo is in Monterey, his big bro is keeping an eye on Julia, she’s in need of dinero, he’s in business with Cobra, one thing leads to another… Are we still sure that Eww was the one who killed Julia? I always thought the artifacts and the black market deals were just a big red herring and who better to divert everyone’s attention from the truth than the cop in charge of the investigation?

Renata receives another nightly visit from Mauricio. She’s afraid he’ll be discovered in her room, he assures her he knows the comings and goings of all the staff, when the nurses change shifts, when the doctors arrive, when they go to lunch… He’s been here a long time and he was always very good at remembering things. His teachers used to call him a genius, he was always very good at math, he used to spend so much time in his head, calculating how and where to invest money, how to do business, that this eventually turned him loco. Now they are controlling him by keeping him locked up, but his mind is as sharp as always. He’s happy to be here, though, he met Renata in here. Ren hates the place, but her family won’t help her get out, go see Marcelo. Mauricio offers to help with this on one condition: they need to comeback. Renata agrees and they decide to sneak out the next day. This will end well. Definitely!

Sonia is asleep when Eww shows up, waking her. He pulls a gun, stating how much he’d like to kill her right now. Alas, he can’t, he desires her too much (Oh, God!) She tries to keep him calm, reminds him he could hurt the baby. He doesn’t want that, but he can’t forget how she and Marcelo cheated on him, how they used to laugh behind his back. He needs to know if the baby is his. Because if it’s not…

Leo catches Clara before she leaves, she thinks he wants to talk about the their night at the club, but he has bigger worries. He knows she’s on Cobra’s payroll, what is he forcing her to do? Clara is impactada, she denies knowing too much, she has no clue where his hideout is, she was there only once, while wearing a blindfold. What about Majo? Clara is reluctant to tell on her new bestie, she’s afraid Cobra might kill her. Leo says that he couldn’t save Julia, but he will save her. How did Clara find Cobra?? How did Julia?

Speak of the Devil, and here is JL, arriving home. Clara uses the opportunity to leave. (wasn’t it super late? Where is she going all alone?)

JL wants to talk to Leo. He doesn’t understand what is going on. He was always there for him, always in his corner, why is Leo despising him all of a sudden? Why is he judging him all the time? Leo is bothered by the fact that JL gets so upset about everything, all the time. JL explains that this is just the way he is, it’s in his nature. Leo asks why Adriana was promoted, implying that it had nothing to do with work merits. JL insists that she was the best for the job and besides, HE IS THE BOSS, and what he says goes. Leo needs to stop meddling and keep his distance.

Eliesa and Fab bring Majo home. She drunkenly goes upstairs to her room, asking Eliesa to worry about her own life, she has everything under control. The scene is kind of funny, a drink might do Eliesa some good, loosen her up a bit.

Fab thinks it’s no big deal, Majo will be OK in the morning. And he will take care of Eliesa. He moves in to stroke her face, Eliesa evades him, asks him to respect her feelings, she doesn’t want to lose him as a friend. Gracias and goodnight!

Fab’s next stop is Fernanda’s place. She fills him in on her problems, mom is dying, she has cancer and the doctors say nothing more can be done. Fab offers to help, hire a nurse, be there for her. Fer is upset, she called before because she needed him. Fab thought she was searching for him to nag about Eliesa, they were together, he was working on Eliesa for their common goal. Mom calls from the other room, Fer is not in the mood for his explanations tonight. She does ask if he’s only helping out of pity. With this woman I can’t even tell if she’s truly upset because she really needed him or she’s using this as another way to manipulate him. 

Clara arrives home, is upset with Nieves because she told Leo the truth. Part of the truth, that is, why didn’t she tell him everything? He started interrogating her, thankfully JL arrived before he could continue. Nieves is afraid of Cobra, they need Leo’s protection. But JL was at the house, he will help if they stop talking to Leo.

Eliesa is in her room, finding a drawing of Leo in her notebook. Leo is thinking about her, too, about her unconvincing explanation concerning her trip to NY with Fab. And about Fab’s help with the girls at the club. He DOES not look happy.

The next day Fab shows up with a nurse to Fer’s house. Fer is grateful. I have to say I think Fab is not a bad guy. With the right influences in his life he could have turned out even better, but what can you do when you inherit your genes from a murderous psycho?

Tere is getting ready to leave the house. She doesn’t want to tell Sara where she's going, but JL shows up demanding answers, too. She makes up that she’s having breakfast with some girlfriends, he gets aggressive, raises his fist (!) at her, Leslie and Sara need to intervene. Tere runs outside, he starts to apologize to his mother (not his wife!).

Vicky comes down the stairs, she has a gift waiting for her. It's Eww, delivering some flowers in person. He’s being thinking about her all night, she’s his whole life, he’s just asking her to be patient about Sonia, he did wait for her all these years after all. And just as a thank you for her patience, he’s going to kidnap her for the day, take her some place special. Will he go for the Dario, guns and kisses approach, or is he more like Leo, stroll by the lake and ice cream courtship? Whatever he chooses, I’m not here for it.

Dario corners Eliesa in the parking lot. He threatens her again, she has been neglecting their negocio lately. She should thank him for allowing her to leave with Majo the other night. Eliesa tries to stand up to him, thinks he will never do anything to her because he needs her. They starts menacing one another, she slaps him, he pulls out his gun. If she’s so brave, why doesn’t she tell Leo what she has been doing behind his back? Fab shows up, defends Eliesa. Dario punches him, threatens that the two of them have some scores to settle, Fab owes him the life that he’s stolen from him. Then he leaves.

Poor Dario, he thinks that Fab had it better just for being the legal child. I’m not so sure. Of course, Dario will probably end up in jail or dead, but Fab could end up with Eliesa. Which is worse?

Leo and Mario meet for coffee. Mario asks Leo’s help to get a transfer to his division, but Leo wants Mario inside the precinct. Mario guesses that Leo is asking him to investigate JL, he can’t stand the guy recently either. Leo tells him the latest about Clara working for Cobra. He thinks they could use her as bait to get to Cobra. They need to protect her, but he doesn’t see any other way to get to the guy.

Tere shows up for her first day of work. JL is following her. It’s not very clear where she’s working.

The guy who fought Dario at the club barges in on Majo, threatening to press charges against her crazy boyfriend.

In the Cantu offices, Eliesa thanks Fab for helping her. She wonders what Dario was talking about when he mentioned Fab stealing his life. Fab, who doesn’t know that Dario is his brother, has no time for his mind games, they need to act now! He will talk to Eww, he has connections, he will be able to stop the investigation into the galleries enough time so they can put everything in order. Eliesa doesn’t see anything wrong with obstructing justice, she goes in for a warm hug. Leo who?

Renata had some doubts, but she eventually agrees to leave with Mauricio. He has a car waiting for them outside the manicomio. The car takes them to the prison. After waiting for a while, Renata is received by the prison warden. He doesn’t understand how she’s not aware of this already, but her husband committed suicide some days before. Renata is shocked.

Eww takes Victoria to a beautiful house, nice pool, great lake view, flowers with a TE AMO note. Victoria is smitten. Eww  promises this to be the beginning of a beautiful day.(My eyes, my eyes, MU EYES!)

Later on, they are drinking wine and enjoying each others company (barf!). She jokingly asks if he’d love her just as much if he knew all her secrets. Hahaha, she doesn’t have any secrets. Yes, you do, Eww protests, and I still love you in spite of this. She’s hiding whatever happened between her and Augusto the night of his death.

Fab is at Eww’s house, searching for his father. Asks Sonia if she’s doing better. She says yes, she didn’t think he’d care. He does, he wishes he could understand why Marcelo had the stolen artifacts. Sonia states that Marcelo was just an innocent victim, she bought him the piece that got him in jail, she got him killed, someone set them a trap. Who was it, Fab demands to know. Come on, Sonia, you want your freedom back? Speak up!

Leo sends Eliesa a message, to meet up at the cabin. She agrees, she hugs him once she arrives, but he’s distant, which she notices. This is very hard for him to do, very painful, but it has to be done. She asked him for a break because she wanted to be near Fab, all the while knowing how he felt about her. Seeing them together last night he finally understood why they were together in NY. She is bothered that he’s bringing up NY again, she thought he’d understood her explanation. No, he never did, she was the only one thinking her story made any sense. (Ha!) Fab is always with her, following her, he can’t take it anymore. Eliesa gets ready to pout, is this why he asked her to come, to complain about Fab? No, he asked her to come to tell her that starting today she’s free to do whatever she wants, they’re over. OVER!

Dario visits his mother. He wanted to see her again, her loving eyes sooth him. Soon enough the three of them (Majo included) will be able to go away, leave everything behind. Mom says that Majo is good for him, but he needs to fix his life. Dario agrees, promises to be better. This scene is ominous, they’re not killing Dario, right? He's the key to everything, he knows everybody’s secrets!

He comes down the stairs and thanks JL (YES, THAT ONE) for helping him see his mother.  He can find his money in the car. JL says thanks. Also, Clara told Leo everything. (I thought it was Nieves. Never mind, bigger mystery to untangle now). Dario doesn’t seem bothered by it, this is JL’s problem to fix. How? He either kills Clara or Leo. Just like that.

 

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Ariana, I am still reading your fantastic recap , but I had to stop today " Happy Birthday " to your hubby.

Wow, the plot thickens. I could see from the body language in the scene in Leslie's bedroom that Ter didn't seem very bothered by her daughter's going to a club in a borrowed dress dress 8th older girls, and I heard her say " Leo" and figured that she wanted the gossip on Leo. I wonder if Ter had ever lusted after her good-lookingbrother inlaw. She seems very interested in him and his romance .

I think your theory about JL bringing Julia into Cobra's orbit sounds correct. Gee, perhaps JL killed Julia and Auggie. We certainly are finding That he is not the person the writers originally introduced us to.

Okay, back to your snappy recap. C'est magnifique.

 

Oh my, JL and Dario are in this together , and Dario tells him to kill either Leo or Clara? Wait? What ? What is happening here ?
 

JL has gone off the rails. He hits on Adriana , but he follows and intimidates his wife . We thought that He loved his little brother , but now we are being shown his deep, seething jealousy of Leo. What is up with this guy? Whom are we supposed to hate and fear more Ewww, Dario,or NO
So many awful men. Are the writers men or women ?
 

Adriana, thanks for your most excellent recap.

All I can say is that the web of criminals has suddenly expanded to where I never suspected. An interesting turn of events.
 

Adriana, lucky Gal, you drew a killer episode, and did it justice. Thanks mucho.

“E-Lies-A stays behind to talk to Leo, explain the situation” in politics, called damage control. Finally, finally after the patio sending him all those emails and texts, Leo is beginning to open his eyes to the pretty little liar he has been bedding. Son, keep the bedding part, but pretend you are deaf.

I have to say, the girls clean up nicely, last night they actually looked like they were in a Spanish TN rather than an Excedrin commercial. Yay.!

OK I have lost count, but we now have another unholy alliance it appears, JL and Stone Face BlitheringMom. WTF does Stone know that we don't? A lot it appears.

Mauricio proves once again how 'Crazy' and 'Smart' are not mutually exclusive, in that they can both comfortably coinhabit the same head.

So Ewww wants... 1...to kill Sonia, and 2...to 'have' her. Simple, ever hear of necrophilia? One of the few things this show has missed thus far. Now let's see if they truly are reading Caray. :-)

Fab is turning out to be full of surprises. He actually does seem to have a good heart, he is just greedy and hangs around with psycho criminals. A different group of friends, and disown his family and people would prolly stop calling him Poodle. :-)

So Ewww is taking V-Icky somewhere special? Half off Depends at WalMart.?

It appears Fab was so tuned in to his aching nuts that he didn't even register what Dario ScumbagWhoShouldDie said about a stolen life.

I actually thoroughly enjoyed the fella with the Dario'ed face barging in on a hung over Majo.

WOW, I assume we can stop guessing about JL.


 

Yeah, and then the little love talk between Ewww and Vic-ious about their secrets?
 

Too bad Sonia is already preggers, because she deserves a Darwin award for not admitting to ANYBODY the truth about the 6 million dollar thing and the attempted murder by boat. No wonder they have a maid, I truly doubt that Ewww could count on a nice plate of boiled water with Sonia in the kitchen.

She is still protecting FerNasty with her silence/lies? There is some colloquial story about a fellow and an injured snake. I betcha Sonia has never heard it, or more likely just didn't understand it.
 

Thank you Adriana! I thoroughly enjoyed reading your recap, especially the sides which made it seem that we were sitting side-by-side and having the same reactions to all the insanity.

Adriana, I like your theory about JL connecting Julia to Dario; makes mucho sense.

Yep, Kirby, no doubt about JL anymore. And that promotion really got into his already twisted head.

Finally, FINALLY, Leo tightens his pants and hightails it away from the pretty little liar who has Poodle's markings all over. Yay, LEO!!

Ummm, could that be the black lagoon that Vic-ious was admiring? Right place for two reprehensible creatures...hoping they end up at the bottom. BTW, I'm pretty sure I heard Ewww say that he had bought that place for her.


 

Adriana Noel, a sterling recap. The title was perfect. You related all the nefarious so very well.

I imagine Renata will totally crumble now that she knows of Marcelo's death. I am strangely calmed that Mauricio is with her who seems to be shaping up as her salvation, in whatever form that will be.

I agree with you in that Dario seems to be the key who can open the door to most if not all of the mysteries (save Leo's devotion to Elisa). But he is the biggest mystery of all. "Dario doesn’t seem bothered by it, this is JL’s problem to fix. How? He either kills Clara or Leo. Just like that". Does he truly mean that?? Susanlynn, in the battle for the prince of darkness, I think Ewww still has the lead although JL and Dario are catching up.

Kirby, your "Fab is turning out to be full of surprises. He actually does seem to have a good heart, he is just greedy and hangs around with psycho criminals" had me smiling. This was spot on. I may be wrong but I thought we saw a touch of humanity in Fer when she thanked him for hiring a nurse for her mother.

By the looks of the uniforms Tere's new associates were wearing, I thought she had taken a job as a server or as a maid (it sort of looked like a motel).

Rgv Chick," Ummm, could that be the black lagoon that Vic-ious was admiring? Right place for two reprehensible creatures...hoping they end up at the bottom". You always find just the right words! Excellent.

Adriana Noel, I hope you and your family have a joyous celebration for hub's birthday. Thank you so much.

Diana
 

Oh there is just so much to say about this episode. I was so glad to see Leo finally come to his senses and give pouty puss the heave Hoe.

She tried pouty face, she tried her trademark subtle wiggles, she tried 'bout to cry, she tried her never fail standby LIES, and none of them worked this time. She does not even have the "TELL THE FRICKING TRUTH' arrow in her quiver does she? Hmmm like to meet her Mom. Oh wait, we have haven't we?

And the crux of this all is it actually leaves her wide open to being scammed by her 'not boyfriend' Poodle and 'Best Frenemy' Fernasty. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 

Diana: " I thought we saw a touch of humanity in Fer when she thanked him for hiring a nurse for her mother." Don't let her fool you. Talking to Fer seems, to me, to be like watching TV. Everything is acting and fake.
 

Well, a lot happened this episode.

Fab is basically a good guy , but like Leo, he is another puppy following ELies-a- lot around. He tried to intervene between Eliesa and Dario- Back-to-Scario \Crazio and got a knee in the family jewels for his trouble . He is in a nest of vipers and still doesn't seem to get it. Providing a nurse for Fernasty's mother shows that he, like Leo, is goodhearted. Like Leo, he is surrounded by evil folks . They should team up. I have given up on Dario. I think he is flat out crazy . I read an article today that presented the theory that American values are based on optimism and redemption . Maybe that is why we prefer the traditional tekenovelas that reward the good and punish the bad. I don't like antiheroes. I like heroes.

Eww and Icky at The Black Lagoon ...I like it. Isn't it a shame when despicable people can be in such a beautiful place ?

Thanks to The recappers and commenters for providing some respite from all the things swirling around us at this time. I appreciate being able to escape to fictional evil for awhile.
 

Adriana Noel, many thanks for a tip-tip treatment of a cracking capitulo! You didn't miss a thing.

My favorite zingers:

-- Will he go for the Dario, guns and kisses approach, or is he more like Leo, stroll by the lake and ice cream courtship? Whatever he chooses, I’m not here for it.

-- Of course, Dario will probably end up in jail or dead, but Fab could end up with Eliesa. Which is worse?

-- Eliesa doesn’t see anything wrong with obstructing justice, she goes in for a warm hug. Leo who?

The scene where Leslie confronts JL is hilarious. She's like *literally* half his size. What's she going to do, bite him on the elbow?
 

Thanks as well to Urban and Kirby for the Mon-Tue Punch. My work schedule this semester keeps me from being able to watch until Wednesday, and then I do a marathon. But it's really nice having an expert summation beforehand -- once I know the plot points, I can concentrate on the vocab, the outfits, and the facial expressions. The script is weak, but the actors are really bringing their A game.
 

P.S. No Imperio tonight (Latin Grammys.)
 

AdrianaNoel, thank you for this amazing recap.

The dirt is coming out. Show of hands, who knew jl was a gigantic ass. They should never show him on Top of no woman ever again. Ever.

Leo Im gonna talk to you like I would my brother. Get out! Run! Run
As fast as you can. Protect your mother your niece & ok your sister
Inlaw. That's the second time he's
Gotten violent with tere. That we know of. Quick question, when he was doing all that supporting of leo through college and criminal law school, was he getting money from being a badcop/dirtycop dealin
With dario,ewww,augusto,julia? OMG
Please dont be the one to have killed julia, cuz if that's the case all bets are off.

It's going to be a good day in the neighborhood when vic-ious gets hers. She really thinks shes better
Than sonia. I actually like Sonia better than I like her. Yes sonia cheated with marcelo on ren but I think that was more about trying
To escape from hell at first/marc could say the same, but then maybe the love came, I don't know but I cant stand vicious-vicky. And ewww
Is exactly who she deserves. She is just as mean and coldblooded as he is. And both of them deserve just what they are about to get.

As for leo and Elies-alot, its good they're over. Right? He need sto bbn have a clear head cuz the stuff hes about to uncover is going to break his heart and his mothers heart. These peoples live are just all screwed up. At this point I can't even imagine what the endgame will be like. There is so many ends
To tie up, but where are they leading from? Talk about "Mr roads wild ride", this one is on acid.

And there is fab-poodle. What's up with him? Who knows. Is he or isn't he? Whatever.
Fer needs to come clean, I want to know who the baby daddy is. I'd like to know before Thanksgiving,
The turkey will taste better. Lol.
Gobble gobble.

Thank you AdrianaNoel, you did good with the recap, thanks bunches.



 

Blue: " bite him on the elbow?" Too funny. But if it came to it, he could never get close to her, it would be like trying to catch a squirrel.

These people are going to have to lasso JLouse and topple him over and get him down there where they can beat on him.
 

Mr "toads" wild ride. Auto correct cant spell.
That used to he a ride at Disney world when I first went there in 1971, when they first opened here in florida, I think.

BlueLass you had me crackin up with this one" the scene where Leslie confronts JL is hilarious. she's like literally half his size. What she going to do bite him on the elbow? That was so funny. Good one
Blue.
 

Thanks, guys! This episode was pretty good, a lot of interesting moments, things that are starting to come out or make sense or get more complicated.

Susanlynn, I think JL's change can only be justified by bad writing. That being said, now that we know that JL is just as bad as Eww (it doesn't get much worse than a dirty cop), could this be a way for the show to make the Elisa Leo couple viable? I mean, she blindly trusts her uncle, just like Leo blindly trusted his brother. We've been yelling at Elisa for being so stupid, but it turns out that Leo is not too clever either. When all is said and done, they will have both lost a beloved family member.

Kirby, I pity the poor soul who will have to recap Eww and V-icky's "special day". Glad it wasn't me (dodged that bullet). When is your turn to recap anyway (evil grin!)?
I think we're supposed to believe that Sonia is so scared that she won't even dare get out of the house, so telling Fab the truth seems like a long shot, unfortunately.

Chickie, I feel the same way when I read your comments, we have the same twisted minds you and I. Love it! I was paying attention to his lovefest speech, did he actually say that he bought the place? I only remember him saying that he was up all night preparing it for her.

Diana, I'm afraid for Renata, too, but I think Mauricio will end up being very important for her wellbeing. All that talk about his financial genius can't be for nothing. Will Ren and Mau save Cantu when Elisa is done destroying it?

Blue Lass, I binge the show also, but sometimes I can't be 100% "there", so I rely heavily on recaps to get what is going on. "Bite him on the elbow" - best zinger of the day!

Nina, as I said in the recap, I always had doubts about Eww being behind the murders. Not that he wouldn't be capable of it. What if it was JL? It is becoming obvious that he very well knew what Julia was involved in.


 

Did you guys notice the look on Eww's face when he was embracing Icky? I thought he looked like he was having some impure thoughts . Blecchh

It would be great if Maur were a financial genius who just needs the right meds . Ren needs a hero.

I have no idea how this will end, but that new intro with all Leo and Eliesa all the time seems to be suggesting they will be together in the end. ...or are these folks just trying to fool?

My sister was engaged to a guy who had been in the submarine sevice. He saw lots of movies , and he often told us the endings. For example, " She jumps in the volcano. " thanks, Joe. Are there any volcanoes around the Cantus ?

Nina...I remember "Toad's Wild Ride " back in the days when you got different level tickets for rides..A, B, C, D
 

Susanlynn, "Did you guys notice the look on Eww's face when he was embracing Icky? I thought he looked like he was having some impure thoughts . Blecchh" YES!! I saw that! Impure "in bed" didn't come to mind, but impure in "I got you where I want you, sucker!" did. We've said it before, Ewww has no interest in anyone except his power.

Blue, Leslie has spunk! Loved "bite him on the elbow?" LOL
 

Nina, "Quick question, when he was doing all that supporting of leo through college and criminal law school, was he getting money from being a badcop/dirtycop dealin
With dario,ewww,augusto,julia? OMG" I'm pretty sure that is exactly where JL got the money...and Leo still has no clue!
 

I am sorry that we wont have an episode tonight. I want to see how this story unfolds.

Does JL know that Leo declined the promotion and said that it should go to JL? Leo is going to be crushed when he discovers his big bro is corrupt and perhaps involved in his fiancee's murder.
 

BIG QUESTIONS???

It must have been subtle or lost in translation for me, but are we to believe that JL is now a bad guy, works for Eww, hooked Julia up with Dario, and is somehow the one who ordered the killings of Augusto and Julia????? But why???

And All Of A Sudden JL has turned into a polar opposite guy, beating his wife, aggressive with and full of resentment for his baby bro, etc.?

Could someone PLEASE remind me what exactly is wrong with Mauricio mentally? Bipolar, what?? His facial expressions are hysterical! Great idea to have him as Knight in Shining Armour.

Does anyone ever remember AB having a drink in any of her previous telenovelas?

And so the backstory between Eww and Victoria is that they've had the hots for each other all these years???

He’s been thinking about her all night, she’s his whole life, he’s just asking her to be patient about Sonia, he did wait for her all these years after all.

I think Eww did say he bought the lake house, and from the looks, the lake appears to be Valle de Bravo, MX.

Susanlynn, your reflection on what you read in that article and your subsequent statement are spot on for me also.

I read an article today that presented the theory that American values are based on optimism and redemption. Maybe that is why we prefer the traditional telenovelas that reward the good and punish the bad. I don't like antiheroes. I like heroes.. Plus, I love fairytale endings.

And Eliza and Leo better end up together, even a redeemed Dario and Majo.
 

Victoria..we are in agreement !
 

Victoria I agree with you too. I tell people sometimes when the convos comes to american soaps and
Tns that I like the tns better cuz in the end the bad guys get there comeuppance and there is a happy ending for the hero's and their lady loves. I watch the young and the restless, have for years And the crap I've seen victor Neuman do to other people including His own family I tell people if he had been in a telenovela he would have been dead or in prison for his Crimes. Of course now his entire family would be behind bars cuz he has a family of crooks. But because of who they are they've been redeemed
But mostly because the police were
Afraid of Victor Newman and hes rich. What a load of bull. I like heros too and he is no hero.
The fairytales are a relief from the harshness of reality these days
I would love to see renata&Mauricio
Together in the end. Somebody needs a happy ending in this show. Cuz the character are being turned in every which way but loose.
 

Fe
We had our first glimpse of JL’s evilness when he forced Teresa to have sex with him. But I never expected him to be collaborating with Dario! I hope he doesn’t bring Adriana to the dark side with him. I can’t imagine what Adriana sees in him. What will JL do when he finds out his wife has been unfaithful to him? Kill her?
I guess both Leo and Elisa will discover that the two people they most trusted; Elisa, her tio and Leo, his brother are evil through and through!
 

Fe, I removed your two last posts, they were doubles. You only have one comment now. I feel the same way as you about Elisa and Leo feeling betrayed by their loved ones, I guess this is supposed to remove some of the blame that will come Elisa's way about her stubbornness to see the truth.
Susanlynn, JL does know that Leo turned down the promotion, Leslie told him in front of the entire family during one of his rants against Leo.
We thought the Cantus were a mess, the Velascos are not too great, either. Look at how much the grown-ups cared about Leslie's night in a club. Tere was more interested in Leo's love life, Leo was to busy talking to Clara, does JL even know about it?

Nina, I watch the Y&R, too. In all honesty, if all the bad guys were to end up in jail, we would have no more soap. Lol... I just wish they would all get off Adam's back.

Victoria, Mauricio told Ren that he had bipolar, a few other mental problems (he didn't say which exactly) and last they talked, he mentioned his financial genius. I'm no expert, so I won't suggest anything, just say that he's smart loco, just like Renata.

 

Thank you Adriana for removing doubles of my posts. Don’t understand how that happened.Thanks also for your excellent recap and comments.
 

Adriana ITA about Adam, he was hated since the first day he was carried into the house by hope and victor. And your right the show is not that good without victor.

Yeah I thought that Jl knew about leo turning down the job for his big stupid brother. But he is still
Nasty and mean and evil and hateful
Toward his much smarter better look
-in younger brother. And something else did he, jl say he was gonna send Leo back to Monterey? See he still Nasty. He needs to be outed. And he Better not kill his brother or any One else. And I hope he did not kill julia.
 

I see They are on tonight. Cuz you can take so much hallmark christmas
Movies, even tho I do like them.
 

Nina..yes, i need the Hallmark movies , but i may be getting overhallmarked now and need to balance it a bit with the nasty that is Imperio and all those lying, nasty , evil fools.

Maybe tonight we will get to see where Ter is going to work. It is amazing that JL has time to follow her when he has so many other evil irons in this fire.

I hope Leo snaps out of it now that he has broken up Eliesalot and stops walking around like a wounded, lovesick puppy.

Fernasty seems to be keeping a low profile right now.

Fab seems to slowly getting a clue that something evil this way comes with dad and all the Cantdo girls.


And where is Ren headed in a hurry? My guess is to confront Icky .

Does this showrunner kill off a lot of people by tbe finale?
 

Thanks, Adriana. This episode was insane.

Somebody got careless by not informing the prison warden (or whoever) that Marcelo's wife wasn't being told that he was dead. Renata will have a total breakown from this, so no exit from the manicomio for a while. I am wondering whether she will completely break from reality to forget that she was given an abortion and then spayed. It would not surprise me if Eugenio saw this possibility in advance. This would make it plausible for him to tell Victoria he will give Sonia's baby to Renata, but since we can't trust anything he says it would be just as likely he would kill it. Even if it's his, which we still don't know.

I have a theory about Mauricio: If he was such a financial genius as to build up a fortune, could his relations have driven him nuts to take control of the money?

I agree that Fabricio can't possibly know that Dario is his half-brother. I also suspect that he is Juanito's sperm donor and Fernanda is sitting on that information until she can use it to her best advantage. I also agree that her mother doesn't know either.

It was a coincidence that Fabricio was at hand when Elisa got the phone call. How many other misunderstandings between the leading lovers happen because of coincidence? Also, both Elisa and Leo were miles away from their families for extended periods of time so it is not implausible that they changed -- or their true natures came out -- while our leads were away.
 

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