Friday, August 13, 2021

Weekend Discussion 8/13/21: Toxic Mothers, 4th Edition

 


It's been a while since the previous edition of this important class of character. These are the most poisonous women we ever meet in our favorite adult stories. They inflict irreparable damage sometimes for envy, sometimes for greed, and always for control. Their favorite weapons are all psychological, so they are more lethal than their male counterparts. I have seen all these, but I know I have missed some for most of the actresses on this list.

Telemundo must have provided at least a few of these maternal monsters, so I hope someone provides their lists at some point. I had to have missed some Televisa ones as well. At the end of this list are the links to the three previous lists of the toxic mothers under our microscope.



Milagros Fuentes / Helena Rojo – El Color de la Pasión (2014)*

One of the worst helicopter mothers, she is likely responsible for the neurosis of her younger son, Federico, who committed suicide in an early episode following the rejection of Rebecca, the main villana of this story. She followed this up by attempting to control her survivig son, Marcelo, who fought back. Had he not decided to investigate Federico's death he would have fled to Spain to get away from her. She forced herself into Marcelo's apartment and tried to force him into a marriage with Daniela, whom she could control. She also attempted to sabotage his relationship with Lucia.

Will not reveal her final fate here, as this series is being rerun right now.




Yolanda de Castro / Carmen Salinas – Mi Corazón es Tuyo (2014)*

Guilty of convincing her daughter that she had to marry money despite her having an MBA from Harvard. Also child abuse, home invasion, and fraud.

Saw the light and en route to redemption at the end.



Lillian Palacios / Azela Robinson – Vino el Amor (2016)*

Guilty of favoring her older daughter, leading to the estrangeent and mental illness of the younger one who killed her sister in the prologue. Also guilty of mistreating her grandchildren, especially in aiding and abetting the mental abuse of Fernanda by bribing an unethical psychologist.

Accidentally caused the death of Graciela in the finale and went to prison for it.


Miriam de Becker / Julieta Egurrola – Caer en Tentación (2017)

Guilty of emotional abuse, slander, and financial abuse of nuera Raquel, including attempts at turning her children against her and attempting to assume control over her son Damián's medical situation; manipulation of nieta Mia, conspiracy to frame Bebo Galindo, Nacho, Santiago, and Raquel. Guilty of psychological abuse of Raquel with regard to custody of Benjamín, reneging on Raquel's offer regarding custody of Benjamín.

Guilty of sexual and emotional abuse of Damián (time period and duration unknown), attempts at manipulating Damián while he was ill, barging into his home to set up his medical bed in the master bedroom rather than the ground floor to annoy Raquel and despite this being against Damián's best interests.

Offed herself – slit her wrists – in the finale.


Roberta Monroy de Uzúa / Daniela Castro – Me Declaro Culpable (2018)*

Guilty of infantilizing her young adult daughter, forcing said daughter back into a relationship she wanted to end, making death threats to a woman she felt threatened by, serving as an accomplice to Julián in drugging her daughter Natalia's tea, blackmailing a doctor to do an IVF procedure to have another baby, attempted murder of Alba, playing the pathetic to hold onto a husband who was fed up with her, murdering the doctor who tried to give her a reality check. Attempted murder of Mauro (her toxic father), attempt to frame Franco for domestic violence, assault (Julián, with a rock), bribing lies out of a doctor, and multiple fashion felonies.

Took her own life via poison at the end of the story.




Catalina Creel / Paz Vega – Cuna de Lobos (2019 remake)*

Guilty of murdering her husband, framing her stepson for assault, murdering her son's lover, setting up her daughter-in-law to be raped, murder of husband's first wife (before episode 1), manipulation of both son and stepson, kidnapping of grandson, mental torture and attempted murder of nuera..

Unlike in the original, she got away with it all.



Victoria Robles de Cantú / Leticia Calderón – Imperio de Mentiras (2020)

Guilty of grievous mental health abuse of oldest daughter, bribing doctors to prescribe inappropriate drugs and perform a hysterectomy on said daughter. Mistreated two younger daughters, killed their father. Became accomplice of Eugenio, criminal mastermind who had molested the adolescent Renata (yes, she knew about that).

Ended up en route to prison.



Gloria Ortiz / Gabriela Carrillo – Ringo (2019)

Guilty of greed, parental alienation, gaslighting and also neglecting her son, bringing false charges against his father in a custody fight.

Arrested for drug smuggling in the US, with the likelihood of 15 years in the slammer.



Andrea Espinoza / Erika Buenfil – Te Doy La Vida (2020)

Guilty of aiding and abetting Ernesto/Miguel in preventing Elena's divorce petition. Refused to listen to Elena's descriptions of his toxic behavior. Tried to break up Gabriela's romance with Samuel. Tried to interfere in Irene's life as well after having favored her younger daughters for years.

Eventually saw the light and later joined Elena and Gabriela in their business.



Ivana Castillio de Gonzales / Marisol del Olmo – Te Acuerdas de Mi (2020)

Guilty of massive emotional abuse of teen daughter, possibly since daughter's childhood. Also of various acts of cruelty to Edy, her daughter's boyfriend. May have murdered her sister prior to the opening episode (not confirmed). Massively snobbish and greedy.

Arrested and imprisoned for money laundering at the end of the story.


Minerva Larraguibel / Luz Maria Jerez – Quererlo Todo (2020)

Abandoned her son to be raised by machista ex-husband, leading to son's future mental illness and homicidal tendencies. Witnessed him killing two grave robbers and said nothing. Grossly snubbed any and all who were of “low class,” bribed a lab employee to provide false DNA test results in an attempt to prevent Angelita from inheriting anything from her putative father's estate. May have contributed to the mental breakdown of her ex's best friend. Addicted gambler as well.

Died of massive liver damage due to alcoholism.


Eva de Montiel / Susanna Dosamantes – Si Nos Dejan (2021)

As of Episode 44: Guilty of emotional abuse of daughter Alicia both past and present, meddling in everything regarding her marriage, divorce, and family. Aids toxic ex-yerno in his abuse of Alicia in exchange for dinero to feed her gambling addiction. Hired private investigator to dig up dirt on Alicia's younger suitor with request to invent something if he found no scandal. Story still in progress (midpoint at this writing), so Karmageddon TBD.

*See Karmageddon discussions for fullest rap sheets available.


Who is the most evil one from this list? The most perverse? How do they compare with the maternal monsters in the previous editions?

Here are the past entries in this theme (click on links for details):

First Edition:

Gabriela Elizondo / Diana Bracho – Fuego en la Sangre (2008)

Carlota Espinoza de los Monteros / Leticia Calderón – En Nombre del Amor (2009)

Bernarda Iturbide / Daniela Romo – Triunfo del Amor (2009)

Jacinta Lopez / Raquel Olmedo – Barrera de Amor (2005)

Bernarda Sainz / Jacqueline Andere – La Otra (2005)

Rosaura Flores / Ana Berta Espin – La Que No Podia Amar (2011)

Rosario Pedraza de Cordoba / Daniela Castro – Mi Pecado (2009)

Mathilde Montes de Oca / Alma Muriel – Yo Compro esa Mujer (1991)

Alfonsina Arrano / Blanca Guerra – Abismo de Pasión (2011)

Ana Joaquina Villarde / Marga Lopez – El Privilegio de Amar (1998)

Catalina Creel / Maria Rubio – Cuna de Lobos (1986)

Josefina Alvarez de Monterubio / Rocio Banquels – Cuando Me Enamoro (2010)


Second Edition:

Catalina Valencia / Sasha Montenegro – Las Vias del Amor (2001)

Juana Arellano / Daniela Romo – Alborada (2005)

Marcela Arismendi / Susanna Dosamantes – Eva Luna (2010)

Lucrezia Lomieli / Rosa Maria Bianchi – La Fuerza del Destino (2010)

Rosaelena Torreslanda / Laura Flores – Un Refugio para el Amor (2012)

Veronica Hiero / Claudia Alvarez – Porque el Amor Manda (2012)

Mathilde Aresti de Camargo / Leticia Perdigón – Mentir Para /Vivir (2013)

Graciela Mendoza . Daniela Castro – Lo Que La Vida Me Robo (2013)


Third Edition:

Barbara Greco / Lucero – Mañana es Para Siempre (2008)

Fedra Curiel / Azela Robinson – Llena de Amor (2010)

Candela Santana / Alejandra Barros – La Sombra del Pasado (2014)

Prudenzia Mendoza / Cinthia Klitbo – La Sombra del Pasado (2014)

Ursula Santibañez / Rosa Maria Bianchi – Yo No Creo en los Hombres (2014)

Josefa Cabrera / Azela Robinson – Yo No Creo en los Hombres (2014)

Rebecca Murillo de Gaxiola / Claudia Ramirez (adult) – El Color de la Pasión

Teresa Alarcón / Diana Bracho – El Hotel de los Secretos (2016)

Elisa Vergara / Silvia Mariscal – El Hotel de los Secretos (2016)

Eloisa Angeles / Isela Vega – Muchacha Italiana Viene a Casarse (2014)


Finally, since there are actresses on this list who have multiple Toxic Mother roles, whom would you nominate as their queen​?



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Comments:
Urban
You do such an outstanding job of picking the best of the worst! Some of them make my stomach crawl! I don't believe I would even be able to pick out my top choice as they are all SO BAD!!

Thanks for taking the time to write this up..
 

I have been a little lax with this lately but I normally keep track of all the villains' crimes-- both civil and social -- for the Karmageddon pages. For the "new" Catalina I listed them by episode. She had a much longer rap sheet in 2019 than in the 1985 original.

I am trying to figure out if anyone will ever top that.
 

Thank you, Urban. This was outstanding.

Urban, for me the absolute queen will always be María Rubio as the original Catalina Creel. The ORIGINAL script allowed her to be the the queen of evil mothers. The second version was a great tale, but her crimes could not hold a candle to the depravity Catalina Creel committed in the plot of the original.
 

My second choice is from a novela that I do not think you saw as many of your choices come from novelas I did not see. Daniela Romo who played a real *itch” of a mother “Bárbara” to three grown men in “Vencer el desamor” and is my #2 on the list of toxic mothers. Barb NEVER held back what she was thinking unless it was to her advantage. She was such a nasty piece of work that just thinking about what she said and did to people still makes my skin crawl. It has to be one of Daniela’s greatest roles. After “Barb” is duped by a serial rapist and killer, she learns the errors of her ways for a happy ending. This will always be one of my favorite novelas due in part to Daniela Romo’s portrayal of “Barb.”

 

I didn't see Venecer but this intrigues me. Daniela Romo is a brilliant actress and more subtle than many of the others on this list.

I did see some of the original Cuna and the whole deception over the eye that Catalina didn't actually lose was diabolical. I want to finish it someday to understand her final fate. The remake didn't have the luxury of time to develop that aspect of the story. The big headscratcher was why the new Catalina didn't have a glass eye made, as she had a modeling career prior to her marriage.

 

Urban, I enjoyed “Vencer el desamor” so much after the first couple episodes, I decided to recap it. It only has 93 episodes with mysteries, murders, first rate original plot, and an excellent cast. I think you would enjoy it.
 

My apologies for having forgotten to put the jump break in before.
 

It's hard to think of Daniela Romo as an antagonist. Even in 'Alborada' she just couldn't reach a level of evilness. And, Oh, in 'Sortilegio' she was at her most wonderful self!
I'm still trying to find 'Si Dios me quita la vida'.
 

UA: Thank you very much for posting this. The list of conniving mothers is intriguing.

Meddling Eva will get her Karma in "DEJAN".
 

As I have previously said I want to see Eva estranged from Alicia and cleaning toilets at midnight. Mayrin Villanueva's villana in MI Corazon es Tuyo lost her beauty and ended up cleaning up after elephants in the local zoo.
 

Victoria: I should note the obvious blatant racism from Catalina in "Lobos" & Lilian from "Vino El Amor".
 

Urban, thank you for this excellent compilation. Impressive list of Evil...

My choices are Daniela Castro – Mi Pecado whose icy cold cruelty was crippling. Also the amazing Leticia Calderón for both Imperio de Mentiras and En Nombre del Amor where her icy stare could melt steel. Calculating and heartless all 3 characters.

Dishonerable mention goes to Marisol del Olmo – Te Acuerdas de Mi and Diana Bracho for Fuego en la Sangre.

All are incredible actresses who can all play protagonist and antagonist without missing a beat.

Urban, if you do have the chance please do try and watch Vencer el desamor. Taut and well written the stories are compelling. Aside from that, Jarifa's recaps outshone the episodes themselves.

And yes, Eva does not deserve a happy ending. At all!

Thanks so much Urban.

Diana
 

OMGosh, Urbam, What a nice weekend surprise!! Thank you for all the work and time you spent compiling this.

I didn't watch many of novelas you mentioned, but I did watch a few.

While all the ones listed are hateful, I think the cruelest and most vicious human incubator ( I refuse to call any of these witches "mom".) was Catalina Creel.

IIRC, all of the human incubators, twisted as it was, "loved" at least one of their children though they tried to manipulate them to follow what they thought would be best for their son/daughter. The only exception (IMO) is Eva; so I would nominate her to be in the top 2 of the list.
 

Diana, thanks. You are too kind.
 

I find it interesting that more of them are ending up in prison lately; they used to mostly end up dead at the end of their stories. Miriam de Becker offed herself like a Roman matron of the Caesars; there was no shortage of incest in that family. I am surprised that no writer has yet named a toxic mother for Livia, she who managed the Roman Empire through carefully planned murders. So cold-blooded and evil they say a snake bit her once... and died.

 

Urban

I'm so glad to see that you selected Jacqueline Andere from 'La Otra'. !!

She is such an EVIL MOTHER !! I'm watching 'La Otra' again, and I am only on Episode 8; and already I want to reach through my phone screen and strangle her nice and slowly......and watch her tongue pop out!!

I had forgotten how sad this novela is. I'd probably stop watching it if it weren't for Juan Soler at his best.

I try to keep reminding myself that the antagonists make a novela interesting just like the protagonists. But it's so hard sometimes when a character is especially EVIL !!

I wonder who you would pick as the evilest one of all ?????
 

The mother from Inocente de Ti was wicked as well. She was played by Helena Rojo, a brilliant actress. Her character Rebecca killed more than three characters including her own sister; she forced her eldest son to marry for greed; she interfered with her sons relationships; she manipulated and mistreated everyone, including her disabled daughter.

It was very amusing how far the woman will go.
 





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