Saturday, January 03, 2009

Tontas no Van Friday 1/2. Peace and Love, and No Fighting, Please

From before: Pat is questioning Alicia about the photo of him as a kid, which is missing from its normal spot. Alicia says to ask the maid. Pat says wasn’t your mother here? Alicia says you’re nuts, I’m going to exercise. As she leaves, Pat says to himself, “it was Gregoria” (Suegrita)

In the antro, Charly and Lucía are happy after their first kiss. They think they might be novios, but quickly realize they have to leave, ‘cause it’s late. They run out. And about this time, Santiago is stumbing around in the darkness of Lucía and Rocío’s room. Sleeping Rocío swings her arm and almost hits him. He goes over to the bunched up covers of Lucía’s bed, and she’s not in it!

Now, the new stuff.

Meño and Candy are drying dishes. Meño explains that Pat showed him the photo, and Meño didn’t give anything away, BUT Pat saw a lot of things in Meño and Candy’s place, and Pat’s not going to let it drop. Meño asks Candy why she’s chatting with Pat (online). Candy says she wants to protect Chava. She has to maintain distance from Pat. Meño shows her with his hands, that the distance is getting smaller and smaller. The time has come to tell the truth, that you’re alive, Chava is his son, etc. That’s what you do, and “away with the pain” (his famous line, fuera dolor). I don’t think Candy’s convinced.

Lucía sneaks into her room, glad nobody noticed she left. So thinks Rocío looks cute (until sleeping Rocío swings her arm and almost conks her). Lucía is dying of sleepiness, but there’s her little bed. And out jumps Santi! He starts giving Lucía the third degree for sneaking out, going to the nightclub. Rocío keeps making noises in her sleep, but Santi keeps shushing her. Lucía says it was worth it. This doesn’t make Santi any happier. He’d die if something happened to her. Lucía says please forgive me, I’m sorry. Santi says promise me you won’t do it again. Lucía says please don’t prohibit me from doing things that make me happy, but I will promise not to do anything I’ll regret later. Santi’s okay with this. But he can’t see how she can sleep with all the noise Rocío makes.

At the breakfast table at Santi’s, Isabel fires Donato again. Santi unfires him. Santi wants to know about Isabel’s male friend, and is still upset that his mother has a boyfriend. She says he’s not my novio, we’re just friends. Santiago thinks Isabel should only have women friends. Lucía thinks it’s unfair that Abuela can have a novio, but she has people checking her computer, and not letting her go to an antro. Rocío wants to know what an antro is.

In a restaurant, Candy sits down at Santi’s table. He was going to meet Marissa and explain what Marissa overheard the other day (when Candy reminded him of all the advances he’s made to her). Candy say’s it’ll be breakfast for three.

Pat shows the picture to Suegrita. This picture is of me, right? Yes. Step two, why did you rob it, and why did I find it in your brother-in-law’s (Meño’s) house?

At the restaurant, Mari shows up. Candy and she embrace, to the chagrin of Santi. Mari then says if the two of you are together, I’m fine, I’ll leave, no problem. Candy tries to stop her, but Mari says to Candy, no more games, be sincere. Do you love him? Yes, I love him, says Candy.

Meño is shaving, and Chava has lathered himself up, too, and is copying his tio abuelo. He asks why can’t the little dog make pipi in the bathroom like Chava. Because he has to go outside, says Meño. But I’m little and he’s little, says Chava. He asks the dog if he wants them to take him out to the street to make pipi, then asks Meño if he (Chava) missed any spots with the shaving. (I remember a scene like this with my own son, who now has a full beard.)

It’s a little tense in the restaurant, since Candy said she loved Santi. All three are grabbing croissants, but not really eating them. All three are sputtering, until Candy says, sure I love him (Santi), because he a nice boy, in fact he’s a classic chameleon macho. What’s that? Candy says she had the idea, and she’ll explain it to Marissa at the Institute. Her idea is to have a “machogram” or maybe a macho meter, to identify the various types of macho guys. Candy leaves, and Marissa tells Santi if you want a sincere, adult relation, just tell me. She leaves, and Santi is left dumbfounded, asking the waiter why the restaurant is empty, and bring me some juice.

While Alicia stretches, Pat shows the picture to Suegrita, and Alicia says, yeah, why was the picture in Meño’s house? Pat says, tell the truth this time, Suegrita, wouldn’t that be sexy? (Pat sure is pompous). Suegrita says well, there’s a kid there who could almost be your son, he looks just like you (Pat) as a child. Pat says it’s true, my son is friends with another boy who is Meño’s adopted son. Hmmmm.

Mari enters Candy’s office, and Candy asks how the breakfast ended. Mari’s not sure. Mari asks Candy if she loves Santi. Candy admits she does, but she loves herself more. She keeps telling Santi to leave her alone, but he doesn’t pay attention to her pleas. Well, then maybe he loves you, says Mari. No, says Candy, he’s your novio, and I think he’s just like all men, trying to get as many girls in bed before the wedding. Candy doesn’t want to hurt Mari, and really wants to be her friend. They hug. Then Candy starts telling Mari about the machogram. For he column, she’s classifying all males as different types of macho men. And Mari’s novio is a chameleon macho, the biggest liar of them all. All females look good to this breed of macho. To unmask him, all one needs to do is say I’ll only go to bed with you if you marry me. He’ll go running for the nearest exit. Mari’s laughing, but she asks Candy, should I laugh, or should I cry?

Santi and Ed are about to do an operation on a sleeping female patient, but they’re more interested in talking about things. Santi tells Ed that Candy called him a chameleon macho, and he has no idea what that is. But the worst was that Mari wants to split with him. No way could that happen, there would be legal problems, because Santi and Mari have stock together, they’re partners, and what’s more, women don’t break up with me, I break up with them! The two nurses groan. Santi says you girls be quiet, in the operating room you should be just like men and just agree with everything. Ed says, but you do ask their opinions, no? Santi says I don’t care, women don’t break up with me, I break up with them, and I’m gonna break up with Candi. Yes, I’m starting to take control right now. Okay (to the nurse), give me a scalpel, put on some rock-pop music like Jesse y Joy, and we’ll do the operation. The song Espacio Sideral by Jesse y Joy (who also sing the Tontas theme song) begins.

Candy is helping Victoria pick out clothes for Vicki’s new image (Candy is the image consultant of the Institute now). Vicki wants a white top, but Candy thinks dark would look better. Vicki’s phone rings and it’s Santi, who says why haven’t you called about your preop tests? Don’t you want to look great? Vicki says I’m super busy, but I can’t wait for the results. Bye. Candy says why didn’t you tell him the truth? Vicki says I should have, but you know, he’s so handsome, and that gaze of his (mirada), is so, you know? Candy says, yes, I know. But let’s go find that black top.

The 3 kids, dressed nicely (school uniforms), are talking on a bench. Chava says he told his mom he wants a dad, but not as her novio. He asks Beto, do you want Patricio as your Papa? Beto says my Dad is in California, and I’m going to find him. Rocío says, is that far away? Yes, very far. Chava asks, is it farther than the Chivas’ stadium? No, I don’t think that far, says Beto. Do you have the money to go, and are you going to miss school? Beto says I’m saving up, and I’m not going to miss school . I’ll just go tomorrow after class!

Isabel is telling Santi that Lucía’s not even 15 but already is responsible. Santi says don’t praise her, she just snuck out last night. Isabel says our little girl is in love! What? says Santi. But I’ll talk to her, says Isabel. Santi says well I was going to, and I know I should, but, but… Isabel says don’t worry, I’ll talk to her. Santi says okay, but please, none of that peace and love, free love, hippy sixties stuff, you know? Isabel laughs.

Chava and Beto run out of school and are greeted by Pat. Chava says we want some coins. Why? To go find Beto’s Dad. Meño shows up, grabs Chava. Pat wants to talk about the photo, but Meño says he’s in a hurry, and Pat leaves. Chava says he said I was your son, but that’s wrong. Meño says sometimes I say that, but we have to go now.

Ed and Santi are talking while Ed’s putting lots of sugar in Santi’s coffee. Santi says, remember that chubby patient with a virtual novio? She didn’t show up. He has a bad premonition. Ed says it’s not the first patient who left at the last minute, things are fine. Santi says I feel something is starting, like the start of the diabetes you’re gonna get with all that sugar in the coffee. Remember Candi said she was robbing our patients to turn into her clients? I think she’s actually doing it. Ed says all you talk about is Candy, don’t worry so much. He gives the coffee to Santi, who almost chokes on it, from way too much sugar.

It’s time for the Isabel-Lucía talk. Lucía is looking at her computer, saying Wow! Isabel rushes in, and says stop looking at porn! However, it was just a computer screen with Charly Charly Charly written all over it. So they have a talk. Isabel says, you may not believe it, but when I was your age, love had the same feeling as you have now. So tell me the details! We kissed, gushes Lucía. That’s beautiful, says Isabel and hugs her. Lucía says she can’t stop thinking about Charly. Who’s Charly? asks Isabel. Well, I met him at the hamburger stand, and actually I don’t really know much about him. Isabel says you should find out if he’s from a good family, that’s important. Isabel says, I’m not talking about a family with money, but a family that is sensitive, compassionate, humane.

Meño says to Chava, California is way far away, much farther than the Chivas’ stadium, in fact it’s in another country, the United States. So, says Chava, I guess Beto will have to miss a day of school. No, Chava, little boys can’t go to other countries without their parents. But Beto wants to find his real father, says Chava. Meño says, well, Patricio is Beto’s real father. No, says Chava, Beto just wants Patricio to be a friend.

Santi is spying now on Candy at the Institute, hiding behind a screen or room divider. Vicki is the center of attention, dressed in her new outfit, picked out by Candy. All the women (and Meño) are oohing and aahing. Vicki doesn’t want to go on her date with the virtual novio alone, she needs support. Candy says, well the novio doesn’t know us, we can all go to the restaurant with you, and be there watching without his knowledge. You see how the Institute supports its clients? My patient, interjects Santi, halfway tripping over the screen. Because Victoria Garza is my patient, and you certainly look beautiful today, Victoria, he says, gallantly kissing her hand. But what are you doing here? Candy says I told you I was going to take your clients. Patients! Says Santi. Now, Victoria does look nice, you’ve done a good job. But you can’t deny that surgery would do a more substantial change. Candy says but only the physical would change. Vicky says she feels good. She never would have thought it, but the Institute worked! Santi realizes he’s outnumbered, and leaves (sneakily grabbing a magazine or brochure on the way out).

Lucía and her three amigas want to talk to Isabel, but Donato stops them (since Isabel is with Jaime). We see Isabel rehearsing a song in English with Jaime on the piano..

In the restaurant, all the women have come to support Vicki at her date with the virtual novio. No one seems to match the photo (of Sebastian Rulli). They see a chubby, nerdy guy with a flower, sitting by himself, and decide he’s the one. But they have to warn Vicky. Candy calls Vicky on the cell phone, and says, would it matter if your novio was not as handsome as Sebastian Rulli? Well, says Vicki, it would bother me a little, since I don’t like being fooled. But I myself am not really super beautiful, I’m just charming or enchanting, so I’ll give it a shot. Okay, says Candy, pointing to the chubby guy. Say hello to your virtual novio, who looks a little bashful (penosito), no? Vicki hesitates, but with gestures of encouragement from the group, strides up to Ignacio and confidently sits down. He’s apologetic about the photo. Well, then show me you’re as nice as the guy who wrote to me online. He extends his flower, but it flops over. He says it was pretty when he bought it, but in his nervousness the flower sort of wilted. But the truth is, he says, that the flower is nothing (indigno-unworthy) compared to your beauty. Vicky takes the flower and says you ARE charming, my ex virtual novio. High fives at the ladies’ table.

Santi’s telling Ed he’s mad about the Vicky thing. He’s miffed that they’re actually succeeding in stealng his patients. Ed says well, did they really make the girl prettier? Santi says well, she was still a bit ugly, but she looked beautiful, he can’t explain it. Bell rings and Marissa and Chayo enter. They’re really happy, especially since they had the success with Vicki, who found her “gordito”. Ah, says Santi, he was fat, so he fooled her. Everyone lies on the internet. Yes, say the girls, but thanks to our Institute, they found love anyway. Mari tells the score: Institute One, Clinic, Zero. Santi says we lost a battle, but not the war. We’re going to be strong. Rocks, boulders. Calm down, says Ed. Rocks, says Santi.

The teenage girls and Lucía want to talk with Isabel. She cracks the door. They want her help with the Sixties party, which is for the orphan children. Isabel assures them she has not forgotten about it at all, and promises it will be a deluxe party (fiesta de lujo).

Soledad opens the door and is impactada to see that it’s Jorge. I came to see my son, he says.

Pat shows the money to Alicia she had given to Soledad (which she gave back to Pat). Pat is mad and warns Alicia not to try to make Soledad leave.

In the park, Beto and Chava are playing soccer when they see Jorge. Beto runs to him, joyfully hugging him, yelling “Papá!”.

Soledad visits Candy, and they go into Candy’s bedroom, where no one can hear them. I have two things to talk about, says Soledad. First, Jorge came back. Candy says he couldn’t live without you. No, he came back for Beto. Now Beto has two Dads. And secondly, I have a question, says Soledad. I know you said not to tell Pat about you, but he showed me this photo, and what’s up with that. Okay, I’ll tell you the truth, says Candy. I was married to Pat. Chava is his son. So your son and my son are brothers.

After the commercial, Soledad says, so they’re half brothers? No, all that half this and half that bothers me, they’re just brothers, says Candy. Soledad says they should be told. No way, Pat would find out, and he can’t. Why? Because for him, and for my sister, I’m dead. What? Well, I made them believe I’m dead, and now Pat can’t find out, or he could take away Chava. Faking your death is a serious crime, what would the judge think? I even faked the death certificate, there were some ashes…. Just swear to me you won't tell Patricio! Okay, okay, I swear I won’t tell him, says Soledad. But isn’t it too bad the boys can’t know this wonderful thing, that they’re brothers? Brothers!

Jorge tells Beto, I’m your Dad, not the guy who was with your mother before I married her. I know, says Beto, you’re my Dad. Chava says Beto was going to find him, but kids can’t find parents who are lost. I wasn’t lost, says Jorge, just on a trip, and now I’m back. So are you going to live with us now, asks Beto? Jorge hugs him, but doesn’t answer, fighting back tears.

The girls are talking with Isabel. She tells them they have to agree to one thing. The girls say okay, but only if your handsome son comes to the party. Isabel will work on that, but here’s the condition: The fiesta has to have a slogan and a theme (un lema y un tema). The theme will be Peace and Love. If we’re going to have a 60’s party, we have to use the philosophy of the sixties. Rejection of war, harmony with nature. Happiness, respect, kindness. The girls think this is fantastic. And if there’s any fighting, I leave, says Isabel. No problem, says Lucía, the fiesta will be Peace and Love. They all start chanting “peace and love”, dancing sixties dances and flashing the two-fingered peace sign.

Alicia is mad at Pat. She asks Pat if he understands why she gave Soledad the money. Sure, to make her leave. But that’s not all, says Alicia. She’s afraid of losing Pat. She lost her sister. She lost her father. She has a family with Pat. Okay, I understand, says Pat (slightly moved, but not too much). And, adds Alicia, who is Rojiblanca! Oh, you were spying on me. You didn’t answer my question, says Ali. He doesn’t answer her, just acts outraged that she doesn’t trust him, her jealousy is incredible. He walks out. She frowns.

Santi asks Isabel if she’s joking. No, I want you to resurrect (desempolver, which is funny since polvo is dust, so it’s sort of undusting) your old rock group. Mineral water, madame, asks Donato? No thanks, says Isabel. No, says, Donato, that was the name of the group, Agua Mineral. Oh. What song would they sing? Donato says, “so many guests and so few tacos”. Isabel says no tacos at the party, it’s vegetarian. No, says Santi, that was the name of the SONG Ed and I composed long ago! But I can’t sing anymore, that was years ago. Would you do it for Lucía? Well, did she ask? No, but she’d like it, and won’t you do it for me? Well, Santi says I can’t do it now, I’m a great plastic surgeon, and not a rock singer, blah, blah, blah to commercial.

Jorge is yelling at Soledad. Why did you let that man in the house? He’s Beto’s father. But I’m his father, says Jorge. Who fed him? Who taught him fútbol? Chava and Beto overhear, and Soledad tells them to go to their room. Chava says we have to go so they can have an argument. The kids leave. What was I supposed to do?, asks Soledad. Wait for you forever, beg you to come back? You left us alone. The doorbell rings. Jorge knows who it is. He opens the door, it’s Pat, and Jorge punches him. Please leave says Soledad. I’ll go out of respect for a lady, says Pat.

Zamora is giving Toño love lessons, so Toño can woo Candy (right!). He’s going to teach Toño about the first kiss. Toño wants to go to the bathroom, but Zamora tells him to bear it like a man. Professor Zamora needs an assistant. Fortunately, there’s a girl right there (named Alma), and Zamora asks if she’ll volunteer for the lesson. She agrees. He gallantly encircles her waist, tilts her back, and plants a big deep kiss on her, to the fascination of Toño. Zamora then suavely hustles the lady into the back room, singing a love song (with a pretty good voice), and motioning for Toño that he can’t see this part of the lesson. As they leave, Toño muses that teachers have all the luck.

Candy is talking to Lulu, wondering why Santi hasn’t called. Lulu thought Candy didn’t want to talk about Santi anyway. Candy says, well, she just wants to stay informed. And by the way, about the picture Candy took of Lulu….Lulu asks if she’s going to be famous in a magazine. Well, not exactly. Candy explains she sent it to her ex, Patricio, and called herself Rojiblanca. Who’s Rojiblanca? You, Lulu, and you’re going to meet with Patricio, she says with her mischievous smile..

Bárbara sees Cecelia put a flower on Candy’s desk AGAIN.

Ed comes to Santi’s house, and asks Donato where Santi is, since his phone is off. Donato says maybe buying a new electric guitar, since he threw out the old one years ago. But why? asks Ed. Well, he’s going to reform your old group, Agua Mineral, and you guys are going to play at a sixties party being organized by Señora Isabel. Ed looks intrigued.

Bárbara has followed Cece into the ladies room, and is grinning from ear to ear. Cece asks what’s up, and Bárbara says, I saw you putting the flower on Candy’s desk. Cece’s a little mad about this. (I was just thinking, that Bárbara is supposed to have been divorced two times, according to the synopsis. I don’t think Cece is ever going to get anywhere with Candy, but could Bárbara also be secretly bi?).

Isabel is having tea with Marissa in Mari’s apartment. Mari wonders why Santi hasn’t called. Isabel thought they broke up. Well, not really, says Mari. Mari says I know you think that Santi isn’t the man for me. Isabel says, no, actually, this may hurt, but I don’t think you’re the woman for my son. He needs a wife, a mother for his children, someone to light the flames of passion. And you’re not that woman. What do you mean, I don’t light the flames of passion for Santi, asks Marissa. Well, has he called? No, says Mari. If I were you, adds Isabel, I’d be asking myself why.

End of episode.

Previews: Candy returns a big bunch of flowers to Santi. But he says I didn’t send them. I’m not sending you anything. And in another scene, he brings flowers, and Candy thinks they’re for her, but they’re for Marissa. Is Santiago using some psychology here?

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Hey Hombre...another great one with some really good translations. Thank you for "penosito" and "desempolver". I just thought "dust off" the old group but I really like your "resurrect".

Also enjoyed your naming the song that Jesse y Joy were singing. I don't know their work and didn't pay attention.

Recalling your own father/son shaving scene was a nice touch and I'm glad you speculated on the Barbara/ secret crush rose scene because I was confused by it.

I didn't like the way she was smiling about "finding out" her colleague. I would have thought a psychologist would be more empathetic and respectful of someone's feelings. But maybe there's something else brewing here, as you speculated.

Good one. And I enjoy getting them early on Saturday. Gives us lots of time to comment and think about things before Monday!
 

Good work, Hombre d'M. I had trouble understanding the Macho Camaleon section. Thank you for the help. Is it also a play in cama-leon - bed lion?

When Jorge opened Soledad's door, fist first, I'm just glad that it wasn't the Avon Lady at the door.

Bárbara was divorced twice, and she is now a single upper Professional (as opposed to a mid-level secretary, teacher, etc.). In Fea, Carolina had been married, what? Four times? And she is an upper professional with her own company. Is this a trend in novelas, that either:
A. A woman who divorced once will divorce again, and end up single; or
B. A woman cannot bear the damands of being both an upper professional and a wife/mother. She will fail at one.

The "Hot Breakfast" - what does Santi want from it?
A. To cover his tracks and get Marissa back?
B. To get Mar back so he can be the one to break up?
C. To let her go peacefully?
I'm really unclear on his motive (this novela is fun, but plot development is abysmal!). Whatever his plan, he’s surprised every step of the way.

When Alicia begs, "I have nothing but you." Alicia, my dear, when you dug your grave, you sure dug it deep!

Finally, I love when Santiago says, "I'm not a singer, I'm a plastic surgeon." Wrong on both counts. He actually started his career in singing, and later put more attention on acting. I'm sure glad he made the switch! He's a good singer, but personally I REALLY dislike the style of most of his songs. There are only two I like. One is Mulata from about 2002.
 

Hombre de Misterio,

Great detail! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this!

I started learning Spanish around the same time you did with LFMB.
You are learning so much faster than I.

I really am enjoying Tontas.

Patty B. UT
 

Thanks for the quick and thorough recap Hombre!

Paula - To the best of my knowledge, “camaleon” simply means chameleon, but with Candy, there could always be a double entendre. For a gal who judges so much, she sure seems to have a dirty mind, and both she and Santi love to throw double-entendres at each other. By the by, thanks for the “Mulata” link. Jaime can sing ;)

Jorge’s argument about being Beto’s true father would have held a lot more water if he hadn’t been incommunicado for so long. He could certainly have picked up the phone even if it was just to tell Beto he missed him. I also thought it was rather obnoxious of him to want to beat up Pato for sleeping with his wife before he even met her. Having said that, I kind of hope this is the first step towards those two reconciling. Only thing that could put a monkey wrench on things: him finding out that she and Pato had a thing during the break up, or even worse, Soledad getting pregnant from the one encounter, AGAIN. Let’s face it, neither of them has a history of taking precautions with these things. In her defense, she thought things were over with Jorge and was vulnerable, but Jorge could certainly make the case that she couldn’t have loved him so much if she had no trouble finding another shag buddy so quickly. Time will tell...
 

Jaime can sing and DANCE, woohoo! Nice hip action there JC.

Superb recap Hombre. Plot lines and character development may be a bit convoluted in this show but there is no lack of activity, that's for sure.

I was surprised that Jorge showed up out of the blue. He disappeared so quickly with nary a word that I figured his character was just gone. Interesting how Patricia was the more mature one in their little altercation. I guess Jorge thought he was protecting his home even though he'd been AWOL for some time. He's like Candy in that his way of dealing with his problem was to run away first and ask questions later.

Thanks so much Hombre, I really enjoyed the lucid recap, clarification of numerous scenes and the vocab words!
 

Thanks for the great recap. I'm starting to enjoy Tontas. My hubby and I always try to predict what way the story will go. Sometimes it is too predictable but there are some good laughs.

I too thought that maybe Barbara is bi or maybe she knows the flower lady is barking up the wrong tree. Kind of like us smirking at the thought of the mariachhi guy actually having a chance with Candy.

I'm looking forward to the 60s party. As with Al Diablo con los Guapos, a party is a given for showcasing our leads talents.

I know this is telanovela land, but if Marissa has a professional partnership with the Doctor Plastico and the institute for interior beauty, why is she egging on the big "war" ???

Jewels
 

Thanks to Sylvia's comment about "hip action" I finally linked over and watched Mulata. Good one, Paula...thanks. And you too Miss Sylvia.
 

Hombre, another great recap, thanks! Great translations!

“Lucía sneaks into her room, glad nobody noticed she left. So thinks Rocío looks cute (until sleeping Rocío swings her arm and almost conks her).” Maybe this is splitting hairs, but if Santi is such a well-to do doc and they have such a huge house, why don’t the girls have their own rooms? Oh, I get it, so we can have scenes like this, duh!

“Isabel fires Donato again. Santi unfires him.” LOL! This is definitely getting old.

“Pat says, tell the truth this time, Suegrita, wouldn’t that be sexy? (Pat sure is pompous).” Yep, agreed. He is that and probably this is what Candi remembers—he’s pretty self-assured and arrogant and might just take Chava away from her because he can. He’s a spoiled rich boy and used to getting his way. He over-uses the word sexy, too. Just my two cents’ worth.

“The song Espacio Sideral by Jesse y Joy (who also sing the Tontas theme song)” Thanks for the info, Hombre. One of the Tontas theme songs sounds suspiciously like the LFMB “Club de las Feas” song. I got the album and when I want to get a lift of spirits, I play that one since it’s so bouncy.

“The girls say okay, but only if your handsome son comes to the party.” Apparently the Camil mystique works on all ages.

“But that’s not all, says Alicia. She’s afraid of losing Pat. She lost her sister. She lost her father. She has a family with Pat.” Oh, BROTHER! She lost her sister??? She sent her sister away, that’s what she did, with her betrayal. What a STUPID reason this is for why she gave Soledad money.

“As they leave, Toño muses that teachers have all the luck.” Depends on what you’re teaching, I guess.

Jeanne (aka Schoolmarm)
 

Thanks for all support and the perceptive comments.

JudyB: I think "dust off" is one of the definitions of desempolver, so you were right.

PaulaH: I agree with your observation about upper professional women in telenovelas. I guess as with other things, the writers go with stereotypes they think the viewers will relate to, whether true or not.

I'm starting to think that maybe another theme of this novela is the positive values from the 60's. Since I'm of a certain age, I remember how we wanted things to be natural, not artificial, not "plastic". This applied to our food, our dress, etc.

I just remembered that when I was in college, I was in a folk-rock band called "Apple Cider", not too different from Santi and Ed's band, Agua Mineral!

Speaking of Jesse y Joy, I really like them, and I even made my own amateur version of the Tontas song, which you can download at http://www.mediafire.com/?mlhry4njart

I wasn’t sure how to make it so you could play it online, but you can download the mp3 and play it.
 

Jeanne, not only does Pato overuse the word sexy, he overuses piojo and piojoso. What is this man's obsession with attractiveness and lice?
 

Okay, if you don't want to download my version of the Tontas song, I think it will play if you click on this:

My Tontas
 

Jeanne, about the girls living together. I thought that was a cultural value - that they value family unity and closeness more than privacy and independence, so sharing a room with you "sister" is perferable.
 

Hombre...loved listening to your version of Tontas. Especially enjoyed your own little riff on the guitar. Like your playing mucho. And good accent too. Felicitaciones! Move over, Camil!
 

Hombre - muy impresionante! Thanks for sharing your talent. You have some mad music and language skills! :)
 

Paula - do you like Camil's Muriendo por ti? That's my favorite.


(Don't know how to do links, but here's the URL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW7McuwmU-E&feature=related
 

Hombre, thanks for sharing your talent with us! What fun. You rock dude!!
 

Rhonda, as a matter of fact I do. He has two songs that I like A LOT. One is Mulata; I'll tell you the other one in a week.

Three or four are fairly good in my opinion:
Muriendo por ti
Que Me Quemo
Te Amare En Silencio

Most of the rest fall into the "strongly dislike" category, such as Para Estar Contigo. He's a good singer; I just really dislike the choice of songs. Maybe it's just me.
 

Margarita, I dunno. We talked/snarked a lot about ukus (lice) in Hawaii, too--must be a warm, tropical climate inside joke. In a practical sense, though, the school nurse did frequent uku checks. For good reason.

Paula H, could be cultural. Makes some scenes and schtick easier, too, huh? :-)

Jeanne
 

will you guys recap Mariana de la Noche?
 

I really enjoy this show a lot, the actors all appear to be enjoying themselves and each other. I generally try to ignore things medical in these shows, but it's difficult to watch a surgeon touch his face, adjust his headlamp, fiddle with his surgical mask, and then take hold of his scalpel and begin to operate. I wonder if his pts. Have many postop wound infections? Hombre, I am loving your recaps. You are are doing a great job. Carlos
 

Loved your version of the song. I didn't realize it was you until I read other comments praising your talent. I will keep hearing it in my mind all day! Was in the T station in Boston on Saturday waiting and waiting for my train and there were two gents playing their guitars and singing in Spanish and it was so enjoyable. I am starting to love Latin music!
So, gracias.

I am new to telenovelas, cannot speak Spanish, just took a basic Spanish class that ended two weeks ago, but am picking up things here and there while watching the shows. Love that I found these wonderful recappers. Started out watching CCEA and would catch the end of Tontas while waiting for CCEA. I then read all the recaps from the first show so I know what is going on and now am watching this show. By the way, what does the title mean?? I think I actually like it better than CCEA. It is funny and enjoyable. Hopefully I will learn more Spanish along the way.

Violet
 

Carlos, did you also notice that he nearly dropped the scalpel and couldn't seem to hold it the right way up? Should I ever need surgery, God forbid, I hope I have a chance to pick a non-spastic surgeon and interrogate him thoroughly on the state of his personal life beforehand.

I'm really looking forward to the 60s party.
 

I too am beginning to wonder about Barb. She seems awfully interested in the other woman and her flower crush.

As for the girls in the same room, that isn't uncommon outside of the US were we seemed obsessed with every kid having their own room. My sister and I shared a room until we moved out of the house as did my two younger sisters. I like the fact that the two of them are together and bonding especially since both of them have lost their mothers, one to death ther other to selfishness.

Jorge originally was portrayed as a nice guy until he found out the truth and split but I think he has only been gone a couple of years. Now he seemed a little cold and short tempered and I wonder if that does not bode well for Soledad.

Pat is full of himself and he comes across as shallow no matter what. Candi is right to fear he would take Chava away from her. I do feel for Alicia because she did lose her father and both of her sisters and she is saddled with that harpy of a mother. I couldn't help wonder what other exercise we will see to show off how flexible Fabiola is. LOL

That 60's party should be fun to see.
 

Carlos and Violet, welcome to the gang! Always nice to hear from the new folks.

Carlos, I know what you mean about the surgerical environment. Sometimes you'll see them wear the mask below the nose. In one cap, they put on masks and gloves INSIDE the O.R. As for the touching the face, etc., you'll notice that Camil NEVER stops moving. Never. It's not just his acting. Even in interviews, his hands, arms and head are always going.

Violet, re: Latin music. Have you discovered Alejandro Fernandez yet? I love his pop stuff, not his old ranchera stuff. The title Las tontas no van a cielo means "Foolish women don't go to heaven," i.e. they don't find happiness.
 

Thank you PaulaH for translating the title for me and also for the tip on Alejandro Fernandez. I will definitely check him out.

Violet
 

Violet, I found a great music video of him, for you. A. Fernandez, Eres.

Note, near the end of the clip, the guy strikes a pose at the top of the escalator. It is a distinctly AF pose, implying he has delusions of himself. But when he sees the scene at the top of the escalator, that scene is taken directly from an AF album cover, dashing the guy's dreams.
 

You are too kind Paula. Loved the video. Next I'll check out Jesse Y Joy. I think it's a good way to learn new words through lyrics. Love Miguel Bose.

Violet
 

Thanks for the words of appreciation on my version of the Tontas song. Singing songs does help with Spanish. However, I totally screwed up one of the words, and was too lazy to fix it. I pronounced the word entrañas, which I think means "guts", as entreñas. Not too serious? Imagine if I sang a song in English, and said she had a lot of "goots"!
 

I didn't even notice! Still sounded great to me.

Violet
 

Same here, Violet...and reminds me of that Cole Porter (?) song...some say tomahtoes and some say tomaytoes, some say potahtoes and some say potaytoes...etc.

And we all love Maurice Chevalier's accent in songs so what a little enteñas/entrañas...no biggie.

And thanks Paula for that video clip...you still the "Meister"
 

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