Tuesday, October 07, 2014
La Gata #27 10/7/14 La Carta
I have a migraine tonight and it affected my comprehension. And even if I didn't, I always have comprehension issues when TN characters start mind-gaming each other. This episode annoyed the stew out of me.
Here's what I did get:
See Fela. See Fela run. See Fela sneak on the bus. See Fela get kicked off the bus. See Fela starve. See Fela filch a sandwich. See Fela talk to her doll. See Fela nap in the park.
See the Meatball. See the Meatball with a fake mustache. See Lupe investigate. See Lupe mention that the Meatball isn't even Italian. See the recapper wonder QTH?
See Augie. See Augie get an e-mail. See Augie read the e-mail. See the e-mail tell Augie to meet about FDLSC's assests. See Augie drink straight from the bottle. See Augie deny he's an alcoholic.
See Augie meet with FDLSC's lawyer. See the lawyer go for Augie's jugular. See Augie huff and puff.
See Augie moon over Blanca's picture (QTH?)
See Rita. See Rita try to bamboozle Maria. See Maria tell Rita she has to check with Esme.
See Rita plan to find Fela/Blanca. See Rita delude herself into thinking that will give her a free ticket into Fernando's Hideaway and all the luxuries it affords.
Here's were I started getting lost:
I really can't stand mind games.
Pablow sends a letter to Esmeralda. He wants to see her. She isn't so sure and tells Jarocha wants to keep this request from El Sil. El Sil conveniently overhears the conversation and convinces Esmeralda to respond to the letter. He will dictate everything she should say. Apparently, step one of his venganza is to keep Pablow from marrying Moni-duh. I think there is a little "I want to make my little girl happy" in there, too. Either way, I wasn't catching much of any of this plot tonight.
Pablow shows the letter to Mariano, who immediately thinks something is fishy. It sure doesn't sound like Esme. Pablow asks who is he to know what she would sound like. Mariano thinks Pablow is playing a dangerous game. Esme agrees to see Pablow at the tree on the barranca. She'd like to rekindle the relationship, but there will be conditions.
Pablow and Esme meet at the barranca. He has lines. She has lines. They go get coffee. He has lines. She has lines. She's so happy! She thought bubbles that he doesn't even ask about his kids. She toasts his future happiness. She heard he's getting married soon and he says that all depends on her. They're there to discuss their relationship, aren't they? They both agree they don't want to see the other with someone else. Pablow admits he loves Esme. She tries to leave, but he's afraid she won't come back (?) She says as long as he accepts her conditions, she'll be back (?)
The conditions
1. Don't ask anything of me. I'll see you when I can. I have other obligations. (Pablo: lines about someone taking care of her. Esme: lines about caring for someone and they love her like no one ever has. WE know it's the babies.)
2. "Lo nuestro" will be a secret. Your family and girlfriend can't find out. (Pablo: Well, duh.)
3. He's going to go back to acting like he used to. (Lines about not needing material things.)
Avances
Augie's got a gun.
Lowrenza's got a right hook
Yeah. I know this is crap. Maybe if I knew what the heck FDLSC was thinking it would help me.
Previous: Episode 26
Next: Episode 28
Here's what I did get:
See Fela. See Fela run. See Fela sneak on the bus. See Fela get kicked off the bus. See Fela starve. See Fela filch a sandwich. See Fela talk to her doll. See Fela nap in the park.
See the Meatball. See the Meatball with a fake mustache. See Lupe investigate. See Lupe mention that the Meatball isn't even Italian. See the recapper wonder QTH?
See Augie. See Augie get an e-mail. See Augie read the e-mail. See the e-mail tell Augie to meet about FDLSC's assests. See Augie drink straight from the bottle. See Augie deny he's an alcoholic.
See Augie meet with FDLSC's lawyer. See the lawyer go for Augie's jugular. See Augie huff and puff.
See Augie moon over Blanca's picture (QTH?)
See Rita. See Rita try to bamboozle Maria. See Maria tell Rita she has to check with Esme.
See Rita plan to find Fela/Blanca. See Rita delude herself into thinking that will give her a free ticket into Fernando's Hideaway and all the luxuries it affords.
Here's were I started getting lost:
I really can't stand mind games.
Pablow sends a letter to Esmeralda. He wants to see her. She isn't so sure and tells Jarocha wants to keep this request from El Sil. El Sil conveniently overhears the conversation and convinces Esmeralda to respond to the letter. He will dictate everything she should say. Apparently, step one of his venganza is to keep Pablow from marrying Moni-duh. I think there is a little "I want to make my little girl happy" in there, too. Either way, I wasn't catching much of any of this plot tonight.
Pablow shows the letter to Mariano, who immediately thinks something is fishy. It sure doesn't sound like Esme. Pablow asks who is he to know what she would sound like. Mariano thinks Pablow is playing a dangerous game. Esme agrees to see Pablow at the tree on the barranca. She'd like to rekindle the relationship, but there will be conditions.
Pablow and Esme meet at the barranca. He has lines. She has lines. They go get coffee. He has lines. She has lines. She's so happy! She thought bubbles that he doesn't even ask about his kids. She toasts his future happiness. She heard he's getting married soon and he says that all depends on her. They're there to discuss their relationship, aren't they? They both agree they don't want to see the other with someone else. Pablow admits he loves Esme. She tries to leave, but he's afraid she won't come back (?) She says as long as he accepts her conditions, she'll be back (?)
The conditions
1. Don't ask anything of me. I'll see you when I can. I have other obligations. (Pablo: lines about someone taking care of her. Esme: lines about caring for someone and they love her like no one ever has. WE know it's the babies.)
2. "Lo nuestro" will be a secret. Your family and girlfriend can't find out. (Pablo: Well, duh.)
3. He's going to go back to acting like he used to. (Lines about not needing material things.)
Avances
Augie's got a gun.
Lowrenza's got a right hook
Yeah. I know this is crap. Maybe if I knew what the heck FDLSC was thinking it would help me.
Previous: Episode 26
Next: Episode 28
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Sorry that you have a migraine again. In 2014 doctors can't stop them? It's hard to believe. Hope that you feel better by tomorrow morning but in the meantime thank you for giving it an effort, I think that I can speak for the entire La Gata crowd in saying a BIG thank you even though I know that you didn't feel like doing a recap tonight.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 at 9:45:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 at 9:45:00 PM EDT
Gracias tanto, Sara! It's not you...it's this convoluted plot. I think you understood about as much as I did and I kept saying "Wait...what?!"
I don't understand why we're still having to put up with Meatball. He's no longer relevant to the story and needs to GO. That scene you described...yep. That's exactly what happened. They vaguely hinted that the Meatball's Italianhood was in question and I have no idea where that came from. It made me think something was edited out, in which case, I curse the editing monkeys who spared us from the side plot about questioning the Meatball's ethnicity, but still saw fit to torture us with this scene.
QTH about Augie and Blanca, for sure! He said something like Fernando doesn't know the real reason he had him locked up and stole all his stuff...and then he goes and moons over the picture. Seriously? If this was all about Blanca somehow, news flash, Augie...you messed up! Big time!
Rita's another one who no longer serves any purpose and just needs to go. Two days ago it was "I have to be careful...what if Blanca remembers?" and now it's "I should find Blanca and hand her over to Fernando!" Makes NO sense!
If there's a master plan behind all this, I'd really like to be let in on it. Oh, sure, I'm intrigued about where they're going, but I'm also VERY confused and VERY suspicious that they haven't thought all their surprising plot twists through to the end.
I don't understand why we're still having to put up with Meatball. He's no longer relevant to the story and needs to GO. That scene you described...yep. That's exactly what happened. They vaguely hinted that the Meatball's Italianhood was in question and I have no idea where that came from. It made me think something was edited out, in which case, I curse the editing monkeys who spared us from the side plot about questioning the Meatball's ethnicity, but still saw fit to torture us with this scene.
QTH about Augie and Blanca, for sure! He said something like Fernando doesn't know the real reason he had him locked up and stole all his stuff...and then he goes and moons over the picture. Seriously? If this was all about Blanca somehow, news flash, Augie...you messed up! Big time!
Rita's another one who no longer serves any purpose and just needs to go. Two days ago it was "I have to be careful...what if Blanca remembers?" and now it's "I should find Blanca and hand her over to Fernando!" Makes NO sense!
If there's a master plan behind all this, I'd really like to be let in on it. Oh, sure, I'm intrigued about where they're going, but I'm also VERY confused and VERY suspicious that they haven't thought all their surprising plot twists through to the end.
Sara, sorry you weren't feeling well. Thanks for giving us a very capable recap in spite of the problems.
"I'm also VERY confused and VERY suspicious that they haven't thought all their surprising plot twists through to the end." This sounds just like the end part of CI, when so many useless plots were added in and some never followed through."
People had also commented on Gata's lowered chin and uptilted eyes--her "look." With Lauren Bacall's recent death, many comments were made on Bacall's trademark "look". Here's one:
She was Hawks’ protégé, famously so green that her legendary “Look”—chin low, eyes glancing up in a come-hither but still better-than-you stare—was born out of a need to stop her head from trembling.
Worked for Betty (Bacall), works for Maite.
"I'm also VERY confused and VERY suspicious that they haven't thought all their surprising plot twists through to the end." This sounds just like the end part of CI, when so many useless plots were added in and some never followed through."
People had also commented on Gata's lowered chin and uptilted eyes--her "look." With Lauren Bacall's recent death, many comments were made on Bacall's trademark "look". Here's one:
She was Hawks’ protégé, famously so green that her legendary “Look”—chin low, eyes glancing up in a come-hither but still better-than-you stare—was born out of a need to stop her head from trembling.
Worked for Betty (Bacall), works for Maite.
I noticed "the look" so much more tonight, with the scenes with Pablo where they really were just using a lot of words and not saying much of anything. She would repeatedly lift her head and then sort of remember she wasn't supposed to be doing that and put her head back down. She definitely had a lot more "I'm still better than you" than "come hither."
Aww, Sara, so sorry you are feeling cr8ppy tonight. Hope a good night's sleep will help. Your recap was still great.
Couple random thoughts: the peasant lady on the bus who demanded that Blanca be thrown off the bus was like a Lorenza wanna-be.
Rita offers Maria a "job" begging. Newsflash, Maria: you already have a job taking care of Fela and also a decent-ish roof over yo' head. Why look so excited to accept Rita's offer?
I don't have a migraine and yet I was totally baffled by the whole "meet me to talk" scene between Pablo and Esme. He apparently wrote from his heart, her reply was dictated by El Silencioso. Their coffee date was just puzzling.
J in Oregon
Couple random thoughts: the peasant lady on the bus who demanded that Blanca be thrown off the bus was like a Lorenza wanna-be.
Rita offers Maria a "job" begging. Newsflash, Maria: you already have a job taking care of Fela and also a decent-ish roof over yo' head. Why look so excited to accept Rita's offer?
I don't have a migraine and yet I was totally baffled by the whole "meet me to talk" scene between Pablo and Esme. He apparently wrote from his heart, her reply was dictated by El Silencioso. Their coffee date was just puzzling.
J in Oregon
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:40:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:40:00 AM EDT
J, I feel like they both went on that "date" with a plan and then got within five feet of each other and forgot what the plan was supposed to be.
Silencioso has a plan, but since his plan is "Get Pablo to break up with his fiancee and get back together with Esme" he knows all he has to do is convince Esme to go near Pablo and his plan will work no matter what she says or does. He's definitely got Pablo's number.
Silencioso has a plan, but since his plan is "Get Pablo to break up with his fiancee and get back together with Esme" he knows all he has to do is convince Esme to go near Pablo and his plan will work no matter what she says or does. He's definitely got Pablo's number.
Thanks, Sara, I have a book on the history of the Dick and Jane reading textbooks. See Dick. See Dick run. Run, run, run. See Rita. see Rita mooch and plot.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 5:40:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 5:40:00 AM EDT
What a trooper to do this despite your migraine but it was classic Sara style and I love it.
The Dick & Jane reader is where I'm afraid the writers got their inspiration.
Really hard to buy the cross/double cross affair thingie plot. All she would have to do is lay a DNA test in front of Pablow, he can read.
Augie - Fernando knowing, I can handle but it's Lorenza Bobbitt I'm worried about
Meatball - it's my costume for the halloween party, I'm going as a pirate
Rita - I've never done anything out of the goodness of my heart
Maria - Sure Rita and you can kiss my butt
El Sil - OPEN YOUR MOUTH
Pablow - I still can't sneak anything out of the kitchen for ya
Esmeralda - "And talk was small when they talked at all
They both knew what they wanted"...Third rate romance
Low rent rendezvous"
Fela - tomorrow I'll hit the drive thru at Wendy's
The Dick & Jane reader is where I'm afraid the writers got their inspiration.
Really hard to buy the cross/double cross affair thingie plot. All she would have to do is lay a DNA test in front of Pablow, he can read.
Augie - Fernando knowing, I can handle but it's Lorenza Bobbitt I'm worried about
Meatball - it's my costume for the halloween party, I'm going as a pirate
Rita - I've never done anything out of the goodness of my heart
Maria - Sure Rita and you can kiss my butt
El Sil - OPEN YOUR MOUTH
Pablow - I still can't sneak anything out of the kitchen for ya
Esmeralda - "And talk was small when they talked at all
They both knew what they wanted"...Third rate romance
Low rent rendezvous"
Fela - tomorrow I'll hit the drive thru at Wendy's
So maybe it wasn't just me.
1. I am confused by Pablow's statement on Monday night. I swears he will rewin her love.
2. Flash forward to Tuesday. He's now blabbing about "getting her" before she "gets him". All rendered with "burlarse de" which we know means "to make fun of" but that's not at all what either one is meaning.
QTH?
And plan? Yeah, there's a plan. If it's to get Pablow and Esme back together then all you have to do...like tofie said...is get a DNA test. QTH? redux. That sort of thing annoys me.
It's only episode 27 and Golden Sunflowers said she didn't quit until around #50...so in theory we still have some entertaining episodes coming up. Maybe tonight will clear things up.
I get the impression that the writers and producers are trying to build mystery/suspense. So far I've only been confused.
Not that it matters. Maite is gorgeous and I'll watch anyway. Red is her color.
OH! OH! And what really gets me is Virginia knows Esme was suffering for Pablow, NOT running around with other men and Mariano knows how things really went down and he's not talking. Damn. Just put the four of them (ok, 5 counting Centavito/Carrlos) in a room with the DNA results and in 15 minutes you can clear everything up.
GAH!!!!
1. I am confused by Pablow's statement on Monday night. I swears he will rewin her love.
2. Flash forward to Tuesday. He's now blabbing about "getting her" before she "gets him". All rendered with "burlarse de" which we know means "to make fun of" but that's not at all what either one is meaning.
QTH?
And plan? Yeah, there's a plan. If it's to get Pablow and Esme back together then all you have to do...like tofie said...is get a DNA test. QTH? redux. That sort of thing annoys me.
It's only episode 27 and Golden Sunflowers said she didn't quit until around #50...so in theory we still have some entertaining episodes coming up. Maybe tonight will clear things up.
I get the impression that the writers and producers are trying to build mystery/suspense. So far I've only been confused.
Not that it matters. Maite is gorgeous and I'll watch anyway. Red is her color.
OH! OH! And what really gets me is Virginia knows Esme was suffering for Pablow, NOT running around with other men and Mariano knows how things really went down and he's not talking. Damn. Just put the four of them (ok, 5 counting Centavito/Carrlos) in a room with the DNA results and in 15 minutes you can clear everything up.
GAH!!!!
Sara- I hope you're feeling better today. This recap was great, and you probably put more effort into writing it and thinking about the plot than the writers did.
So basically Pablo wrote the love letter to Esme with two thoughts in mind- if she wrote him back and accepted meeting him, it means she's become a slut, and if she does accept, he'll seduce and then dump her. Silencio's counter-plan seems to be to get Pablo to court Esme with poetry, art, their place on the hill, the simple things they shared when they fell in love, so that they'll both fall head over heels in love again. Juaever!
Let's talk about more important plot points, like Esme's choice of the red outfit to meet Pablo. Great color on her!
So basically Pablo wrote the love letter to Esme with two thoughts in mind- if she wrote him back and accepted meeting him, it means she's become a slut, and if she does accept, he'll seduce and then dump her. Silencio's counter-plan seems to be to get Pablo to court Esme with poetry, art, their place on the hill, the simple things they shared when they fell in love, so that they'll both fall head over heels in love again. Juaever!
Let's talk about more important plot points, like Esme's choice of the red outfit to meet Pablo. Great color on her!
Vivi-THANK YOU!!! Now things do seem to make a little more sense.
Kat said above "with the scenes...where they really were just using a lot of words and not saying much of anything."
These are the kinds of episodes I hate to recap. Lots of words and very little sense. And clearly last night's dialogue was lost on me because I missed some of these subtleties. I am a literal person. I need Pablow to say "if she accepts she's a slut and I'll just seduce her and dump her. I WIN!"
(This is true for me in English, too. Just say what you mean.)
It doesn't help that we have a pretty quick turn around time on recaps, too. Sometimes it takes a few days for things to sink in.
Thank goodness you helped me, Vivi!
But again, why all the planning, plotting and talking?
Ah, silly me. We need at least 100 episodes.
Kat said above "with the scenes...where they really were just using a lot of words and not saying much of anything."
These are the kinds of episodes I hate to recap. Lots of words and very little sense. And clearly last night's dialogue was lost on me because I missed some of these subtleties. I am a literal person. I need Pablow to say "if she accepts she's a slut and I'll just seduce her and dump her. I WIN!"
(This is true for me in English, too. Just say what you mean.)
It doesn't help that we have a pretty quick turn around time on recaps, too. Sometimes it takes a few days for things to sink in.
Thank goodness you helped me, Vivi!
But again, why all the planning, plotting and talking?
Ah, silly me. We need at least 100 episodes.
That's the thing about Pablow that Esmeralda can't get through her thick skull, he truly believes she is a garbage dump, gold-digging slut. He wants to prove to himself all he has to do is snap his fingers and Cat comes a running, throw out a few flattering comments and she'll open her legs. The dude doesn't give a flip about the kids because he already "knows" the slut stepped out on him.
The only thing he is good at is assuming the worst of her and picks up on any admiration for Esmeralda by his brother.
The only thing he is good at is assuming the worst of her and picks up on any admiration for Esmeralda by his brother.
Hi, Sara,
Sorry you had a migraine last night! Those must be awful. But you still managed to put up a great recap with yet another inventive format. By your comments this morning, it sounds like you are much better, thank God.
I wonder if Blanca's picture on Augie's computer will be the gateway for a new twisted background tale of love shunned and the start of vengeance.
Augie calling himself all those unflattering names was great. I'm sure the alcohol will help him make good decisions.
Pablo isn't stupid in the sense that he can't learn things, but his insulated family status has made him horribly insensitive to the feelings of others, and how human interaction is started and built upon. I wonder if he will need to suffer the complete collapse of his family's fortune and reputation before his mind can grasp the enormity of his lack of empathy and courage.
Thanks again, Sara.
David
Sorry you had a migraine last night! Those must be awful. But you still managed to put up a great recap with yet another inventive format. By your comments this morning, it sounds like you are much better, thank God.
I wonder if Blanca's picture on Augie's computer will be the gateway for a new twisted background tale of love shunned and the start of vengeance.
Augie calling himself all those unflattering names was great. I'm sure the alcohol will help him make good decisions.
Pablo isn't stupid in the sense that he can't learn things, but his insulated family status has made him horribly insensitive to the feelings of others, and how human interaction is started and built upon. I wonder if he will need to suffer the complete collapse of his family's fortune and reputation before his mind can grasp the enormity of his lack of empathy and courage.
Thanks again, Sara.
David
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 8:46:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 8:46:00 AM EDT
tofie-And what reallly annoys me is that Pablo thinks Esme is slutty gutter trash because HIS MOTHER SAID SO. His mother, who he already admits manipulates him. Remember he called himself her puppet during his borrachera.
David-I hope your scenario plays out (loss of family fortune.) Mainly because it will be a learning experience. Not the usual "oops my bad. Sorry" we've been getting from galans lately.
David-I hope your scenario plays out (loss of family fortune.) Mainly because it will be a learning experience. Not the usual "oops my bad. Sorry" we've been getting from galans lately.
Thanks Sara, you did a fine job. Despite not feeling well you clarified a lot for me. 90% of this episode went completely over my head.
This was a very frustrating episode for me.
Every time Jarocha and Esme were together they both talked so fast the captions were shooting off the screen much faster than a person at my (Spanish)level could comprehend. Jarocha was constantly shifting from one foot to the other and swinging the baby was distracting. Both babies were crying. Then there was the background music competing with my hearing. I missed their entire conversation as well as the contents of both Pablo's and Esme's letters.
Thanks Vivi for the overview you gave, very helpful.
I've seen enough of Blanca's doll to get what it's supposed to signify. It's distracting at this point. Then, when I Esme wearing heels at the dump is it supposed to look sexy? Was Damian hitting on Esme?
This was a very frustrating episode for me.
Every time Jarocha and Esme were together they both talked so fast the captions were shooting off the screen much faster than a person at my (Spanish)level could comprehend. Jarocha was constantly shifting from one foot to the other and swinging the baby was distracting. Both babies were crying. Then there was the background music competing with my hearing. I missed their entire conversation as well as the contents of both Pablo's and Esme's letters.
Thanks Vivi for the overview you gave, very helpful.
I've seen enough of Blanca's doll to get what it's supposed to signify. It's distracting at this point. Then, when I Esme wearing heels at the dump is it supposed to look sexy? Was Damian hitting on Esme?
Agreed. Mama's boy knows and cannot plead ignorance of his mother machinations. Pablo is clearly the favorite child, been pampered and coddled his whole life, believes he is incapable of doing wrong and has an ego big as the bus Fela tried to board. Pablo believes ill of Esmeralda because he want to.
On a side note, I never dreamed Daniel would look nothing but hot to me no matter what he showed up in, but gawd, he has succeeded in making me ill when I see him on screen.
Virginia & Mariano were raised with the same parents, ate the same food and lived in the same house as mama's boy.
On a side note, I never dreamed Daniel would look nothing but hot to me no matter what he showed up in, but gawd, he has succeeded in making me ill when I see him on screen.
Virginia & Mariano were raised with the same parents, ate the same food and lived in the same house as mama's boy.
You know Missy, last night was the first time to me, it looked like Damien was coming on to her. I thought bubbled, he likes her but not in a sisterly way. Guess this is gonna get messy.
I got the same vibe. I felt like Esme felt it too. There was something in the way she looked at him. She looked a little uncomfortable.
"Moni-duh"- Bwahaaaa!
Missy R - I had the exact same problem with Jarocha/Gata conversation...crying babies and back ground music.
The nasty pushy bus lady needs to share a room in hell with Lorenza.
Thanks so much for the recap.
Missy R - I had the exact same problem with Jarocha/Gata conversation...crying babies and back ground music.
The nasty pushy bus lady needs to share a room in hell with Lorenza.
Thanks so much for the recap.
I was hoping the bus driver would call a friend or his wife or something and tell them to come down and help this poor lady. He seemed to really feel bad for Fela/Blanca. That lady on the bus was a witch. Fela wasn't doing anything to bother the other passengers, and certainly not her, as she was sitting a couple of rows back. No one else seemed bothered.
No one mentioned it---ok, so Blanca didn't have a ticket to ride on the bus and was kicked off. The turkey in the row in front of Blanca had a seat. Do turkeys have to pay full price for a seat or do they get a discount? That's my question.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:27:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:27:00 PM EDT
I also saw the Damien stroking Esme's shoulder, and her uncomfortable glance at him. FDLC seems committed to presenting Pablo to Esme on a platter (and on his knees), so I wonder how this is going to impact the dynamics in the household. Damien, I think if you keep it up you'll wind up back in the garbage dump.
What about the avances showing Augie holding a pistol to his head, then having a shot heard in the house? I don't think he's got the aguacates to off himself. Bet he shot Blanca's picture on his computer screen.
David
What about the avances showing Augie holding a pistol to his head, then having a shot heard in the house? I don't think he's got the aguacates to off himself. Bet he shot Blanca's picture on his computer screen.
David
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:49:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:49:00 PM EDT
Not much that was sane to recap so don't feel like you missed anything. Last night's show gave me a headache. Gold star for even trying to make sense of this muck. Are the writers the same ones that screwed up CI? Or are they just using 5th grade students to try plot their hand at "plot" development? Silencio is rather talkative of late and is getting on my last nerve with the way he is insisting Gata follow his every command.
Pablo is a real mess. And speaking of Mama's boy, has Esme actually told him that he in fact is the BABY DADDY of the twins? Why isn't this one of her conditions that he acknowledge paternity since it seems it's Silencio's?
Pablo is a real mess. And speaking of Mama's boy, has Esme actually told him that he in fact is the BABY DADDY of the twins? Why isn't this one of her conditions that he acknowledge paternity since it seems it's Silencio's?
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
Everyone today is talking about things that didn't make sense last night. For the life of me I can't understand Gata's attire when she visits the dump. I know that she wore dresses before, she's all woman so I guess that we are not going to see her looking like Ines in tight jeans but Nordstrom's fine dresses and high heels? QUE???
Yes David---Pablo's family is going to have to loose it all before Pablo comes to his senses.
David, I liked the idea that came out a few episodes back when Silencioso told her, Esmeralda, that one day the Negrete mansion would be hers--she will own it. I can't wait. Kind of like the rancho grande that Maricruz was thrown out of in CI. A little while later Maricruz walked through the front door of the Rancho as it's new owner and the people that said that she wasn't good enough to set foot in the rancho were packing their things
on their way out. That was one of the highlights of Corazon Indomable for me and I'm sure when Esmeralda becomes the sole owner of the Negrete mansion I will experience a high also.
People took notice when Damian put his hand on Esmeralda's arm last night. Esme noticed it and pulled away. Was there something there or was it just an innocent gesture? I was wondering about that. I guess that we're going to find out what was going on there.
Does Augie shoot himself tonight or are they just playing with us in the advances?
If Augie commits suicide, do you guys think that Lorenza will be a tougher foe, I do.
the gringo
Yes David---Pablo's family is going to have to loose it all before Pablo comes to his senses.
David, I liked the idea that came out a few episodes back when Silencioso told her, Esmeralda, that one day the Negrete mansion would be hers--she will own it. I can't wait. Kind of like the rancho grande that Maricruz was thrown out of in CI. A little while later Maricruz walked through the front door of the Rancho as it's new owner and the people that said that she wasn't good enough to set foot in the rancho were packing their things
on their way out. That was one of the highlights of Corazon Indomable for me and I'm sure when Esmeralda becomes the sole owner of the Negrete mansion I will experience a high also.
People took notice when Damian put his hand on Esmeralda's arm last night. Esme noticed it and pulled away. Was there something there or was it just an innocent gesture? I was wondering about that. I guess that we're going to find out what was going on there.
Does Augie shoot himself tonight or are they just playing with us in the advances?
If Augie commits suicide, do you guys think that Lorenza will be a tougher foe, I do.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:11:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:11:00 PM EDT
My first comment today disappeared
I have heard others say the same thing. Are our comments gathering out in cyberspace?
Blanca boards the bus but gets kicked off because she doesn't have a ticket. Before she had to leave the bus, in the next row to her was a turkey taking up a seat.
My question is---Do turkeys that are taking up a seat have to pay for that seat or do people with animals just have to pay for one seat? Anyone ride busses in Mexico? What's the Policy. Do you have to pay extra if your animal is to big to hold and needs a seat?
the gringo
I have heard others say the same thing. Are our comments gathering out in cyberspace?
Blanca boards the bus but gets kicked off because she doesn't have a ticket. Before she had to leave the bus, in the next row to her was a turkey taking up a seat.
My question is---Do turkeys that are taking up a seat have to pay for that seat or do people with animals just have to pay for one seat? Anyone ride busses in Mexico? What's the Policy. Do you have to pay extra if your animal is to big to hold and needs a seat?
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:32:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:32:00 PM EDT
Sara..the book is fascinating. It is a history of the Dick and Jane readers that the baby boomers used and a history of the U.S. In the 50s and 60s. I loved those books. It was a gift from a friend I taught with..a Spanish teacher!!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:44:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:44:00 PM EDT
Gringo...UHoh..I thought that it was just my comments that were vanishing. I have been experimenting, and my short comments seem to stay.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:46:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:46:00 PM EDT
Sooo...now that Kitty is all showered and shampooed, Pablow can take her to a restaurant , but when she was starving, he couldn't rustle up a sandwich or an apple. What a prince.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:50:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:50:00 PM EDT
Sooo...now that Kitty is all showered and shampooed, Pablow can take her to a restaurant , but when she was starving, he couldn't rustle up a sandwich or an apple. What a prince.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:51:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:51:00 PM EDT
I know I can't wait for tonight. I really am wondering if Augie will really kill himself or if the avances are just tricking us. It's been known to happen.
I would be interested to know how much turkey's have to pay. And how offensive is it that that woman would rather share the bus with a turkey than a human? (I like turkeys though.)
Susanlynn-What's the title of that book?
I would be interested to know how much turkey's have to pay. And how offensive is it that that woman would rather share the bus with a turkey than a human? (I like turkeys though.)
Susanlynn-What's the title of that book?
Gringo,,.good question concerning whether the poultry needs a ticket to ride. Hub was passing through the living room and asked "Hey..is that a turkey on the bus ?"
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:59:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 1:59:00 PM EDT
Hey, gringo, I still see your comment from 09:45. Was that not your first. Yeah, I hope Esme winds up with the mansion and Pablo has to beg for her acceptance.
Susanlynn and Sara, in the early 50's when I went to parochial school we had David and Ann readers. I think they used it to sneak in some stuff about the Baltimore Catechism.
David
Susanlynn and Sara, in the early 50's when I went to parochial school we had David and Ann readers. I think they used it to sneak in some stuff about the Baltimore Catechism.
David
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:01:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:01:00 PM EDT
Growing Up with Dick and Jane by Carole Kismaric and Marvin Heiferman with a preface by Captain Kangaroo. It even includes a little book with a collection of stories and paper dolls of Dick and Sally. I love it. It is all about the way we were and the way we grew up.Nostalgic.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:06:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:06:00 PM EDT
David...very interesting ...hmm..David and Ann. Did you love seeing your name in those readers ? My first grade beau was named David. He was a bit conceited and would have loved your version of readers.Dicky Bittner thought our books were all about him.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:10:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:10:00 PM EDT
We have a lot of turkeys around here....very stinky if you are living close to those enormous pens. I would not want to share a ride with one...gobble gobble.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:13:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:13:00 PM EDT
Gringo..I hope that Kitty does not lose the mansion like Mari lost the ranch. I felt so sorry for poor Fela. Erica is doing s great job with this character..so different from elegant Miss Victoria.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:16:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:16:00 PM EDT
No David the 9;45 comment was from last night, the one from earlier today disappeared.
Susanlynn---No it just isn't you.
This the second time for me that a
comment disappeared. I don't think that the size of the comment matters because the one that vanished earlier this morning was a short one.
Another thing that is very annoying to me is that while watching the novelas on Univision,
two or three times for each episode the picture and sound will break up just for a few seconds but then will all come back together and be fine. WHTF?
It only happens on Univision, in LA it's 34.1 a standard station not cable or satellite. That problem doesn't happen anywhere else. Electronics, I'll never understand it.
the gringo
Susanlynn---No it just isn't you.
This the second time for me that a
comment disappeared. I don't think that the size of the comment matters because the one that vanished earlier this morning was a short one.
Another thing that is very annoying to me is that while watching the novelas on Univision,
two or three times for each episode the picture and sound will break up just for a few seconds but then will all come back together and be fine. WHTF?
It only happens on Univision, in LA it's 34.1 a standard station not cable or satellite. That problem doesn't happen anywhere else. Electronics, I'll never understand it.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:37:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:37:00 PM EDT
Yes Susanlynn isn't acting amazing? Erica went from the rich and glamorous Victoria to the poor and destitute Fela. It's hard to believe but it's true Victoria and Fela are both Erica Buenfil.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
I think the missing comments are getting caught by an overly zealous spam filter (that still lets through actual spam--go figure!) that blog contributors don't have access to, so I can't free them from limbo. I hesitate to ask the Blog Mom to look into it--it's a lot to ask, given how many posts go up on a daily basis, and the constant flow of comments. I looked at Blogger's content policy and it didn't shed a whole lot of light on what it considers spam. I also checked the comments themselves, since they show up as email notifications even when they disappear, and I didn't see anything they had in common that would give us a clue. Basically, I've got nothing. Sorry.
I'm actually glad the driver didn't let Fela take the bus. If she already has no resources in DF, it's not likely she would have done any better in Zacatecas. In a way, it would have been irresponsible for him to take her and then, what...just drop her off and walk away? If she'd been able to articulate why she wanted to go there or that she'd be able to take care of herself or had someone waiting for her, maybe, but this is Fela. All she's got is "I'm running away from the bad lady." I guess the bad lady on the bus was only there so that Fela could get kicked off, but I still want to kick her in the shins. Her and the writers. "Hey, let's have Fela sneak onto a bus to Zacatecas...that will freak the audience out, thinking Fela will be even farther away from her husband and daughter...but then, at the last minute we'll have some nosy passenger get her thrown off the bus. Oh, but the driver should be sympathetic, so we get that moment of doubt that maybe he'll let her stay." What was the point? We get to the end of the scene and nothing has changed except that a few more minutes of the episode have passed.
Esme seems to be assuming that because she told Mariano about the babies, that means he told Pablo. So she's testing him by waiting to see if he'll bring them up and of course, he fails. This is what would throw a wrench in a possible relationship with Mariano--once she finds out his role in keeping Pablo from her, she's not going to be happy with him. Sure, Pablo should have fought harder, but that doesn't excuse what Mariano did, and he's going to be hard-pressed to say he loves her when he's the one who made her babies "illegitimate." He'll have to talk fast.
I did love her dress, but I kept thinking she was going to trip and fall in those shoes on that steep hill. Pablo was all worried about her being late..."Sorry, babe, I move slower in these heels."
I'm actually glad the driver didn't let Fela take the bus. If she already has no resources in DF, it's not likely she would have done any better in Zacatecas. In a way, it would have been irresponsible for him to take her and then, what...just drop her off and walk away? If she'd been able to articulate why she wanted to go there or that she'd be able to take care of herself or had someone waiting for her, maybe, but this is Fela. All she's got is "I'm running away from the bad lady." I guess the bad lady on the bus was only there so that Fela could get kicked off, but I still want to kick her in the shins. Her and the writers. "Hey, let's have Fela sneak onto a bus to Zacatecas...that will freak the audience out, thinking Fela will be even farther away from her husband and daughter...but then, at the last minute we'll have some nosy passenger get her thrown off the bus. Oh, but the driver should be sympathetic, so we get that moment of doubt that maybe he'll let her stay." What was the point? We get to the end of the scene and nothing has changed except that a few more minutes of the episode have passed.
Esme seems to be assuming that because she told Mariano about the babies, that means he told Pablo. So she's testing him by waiting to see if he'll bring them up and of course, he fails. This is what would throw a wrench in a possible relationship with Mariano--once she finds out his role in keeping Pablo from her, she's not going to be happy with him. Sure, Pablo should have fought harder, but that doesn't excuse what Mariano did, and he's going to be hard-pressed to say he loves her when he's the one who made her babies "illegitimate." He'll have to talk fast.
I did love her dress, but I kept thinking she was going to trip and fall in those shoes on that steep hill. Pablo was all worried about her being late..."Sorry, babe, I move slower in these heels."
I'd love to see Esme in some designer jeans and sneakers and a cute top for her forays into the dump. She can still be well-dressed, but definitely comfortable and not likely to sprain an ankle.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 3:51:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 3:51:00 PM EDT
I would like to see her in jeans as well. Especially when she's tromping around in the dump.
And of course you're right, Kat. As much as I want Mariano and Esme to get together...he does have too many "sins" in his column. I hope he's feeling eat up with guilt, though.
Susanlynn-For Kitty to lose the house, she would have to own the house...and I think that would mean the death of El Sil and I hope he makes it to the fin!
I am a big fan of Erika Buenfil and she's doing a great job here.
And of course you're right, Kat. As much as I want Mariano and Esme to get together...he does have too many "sins" in his column. I hope he's feeling eat up with guilt, though.
Susanlynn-For Kitty to lose the house, she would have to own the house...and I think that would mean the death of El Sil and I hope he makes it to the fin!
I am a big fan of Erika Buenfil and she's doing a great job here.
Sara---Kitty will not own the house she is in now, I think that Fernando said that she would own the mansion that Augie and Lorenza
now have. Pablo's house.
the gringo
now have. Pablo's house.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 4:32:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 at 4:32:00 PM EDT
Hey Conservative Democrat! No, Esme can't catch a break!
You're right gringo. I forgot that.
Only a couple more hours!
You're right gringo. I forgot that.
Only a couple more hours!
Sara - So sorry you weren't feeling well. Your "See Dick and Jane" recap is a hoot.
I just can't see how Esme can care about a Pablum when he won't even ask about her kids. Even if he's stupid enough to think they're not his, they're hers and he should ask.
Meatball isn't even Italian? Where in the world is this going?
I just can't see how Esme can care about a Pablum when he won't even ask about her kids. Even if he's stupid enough to think they're not his, they're hers and he should ask.
Meatball isn't even Italian? Where in the world is this going?
Lol, Niecie...what's this world coming to when you can't even trust a Meatball to be authentically Italian!
The original Chef Boyardee was, but once you start making food in a factory and putting it in a can, I'm not sure how much authenticity you can really expect.
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