Caray, Caray!

Looking forward to it, Eli!
 

'sawright, Eli! :D
 

Good luck with work, Eli. Looking forward to the recap when you can get it posted.

Really sweet moment between Padre J and Al last night. He's so awesome.

Poor E-man. Lola just stomped on his heart. Was that one drunken kiss with Mari really that much of a sin? Well, Pato is a nice alternative, and also a really sweet guy. Loved the look on Mari's face when she realized the cute guy with the huge flower arrangement was there for Lola.
 

I hope Renato and Pato have some hotshot lawyering skills that can beat out Sever's crooked lawyer. Especially now that Humberto has thrown his support behind Sever again. I'm so disappointed in him.

Also disappointed in Jaoquin deciding not to partner with Al on the huerta, and Cris declaring war on Al. It was a bad day for Al, losing three allies.
 

THink last night should have been titled : Allie and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.
(Apologies to Judith V. for the title maiming. )

Can't wait for your recap Eli, but get about the crazy work.

Couple things:
- Joaquin has gorgeous eyes.
- Patricio and Renato better get a positive pay off if they aren't end game for being there for Allie and Lola.
- I'm starting to be a little head-scratching on these intense I love you's with couples who have spent maybe the equivalent of two or three days together. Be funny to do a TN where it fast forwards when couples get together after these type romances and find they can't stand living with each other.
- That was one of the weirdest flower arrangement ever.
- Mari--eyes bugging out her head. Priceless.
- Val/Mari and the tween gossip giggle fest. Painful.

Daisynjay
 

Yes Daisynjay! Didn't the flowers look oddly waxy?
 

The flowers were positively embalmed cause that's where that relationship is going.

Yah, Vivi, continue to be disappointed in Lola who is looking more Flavia-like everyday. Stupid storyline. E-man should go back to being the strong, silent horse whisperer and ignore her arse. I betcha she'll come around.

I'm starting to be a little head-scratching on these intense I love you's with couples who have spent maybe the equivalent of two or three days together.

Daisy, couldn't agree more. It's a real weakness. They should try to convince us more with the main couple. I don't know who told them 5% love and 95% anguish, longing and even hatred was a winning combination. Tiring.
 

My goodness!

Allie's No Good, Terrible, Horrible, Very Bad Day is SPOT ON!
 

Until Sever and Cande are dead, jailed, or out of the picture, Cris and Al's relationship will always be 95% anguish, no matter how much time they actually finally get to spend with each other.
 

I also don't think Cris will be able to stick to this hate thing. It's not in his nature, despite his nurture and his genes. He was already weakening as he spoke to Dominga and started crying about it.
 

I hope so, Vivi. I know I whine about this all the time but we need more lovin' of the right people in these stories! Grrrrr!
 

Good morning, all. Elk, sorry that work is a bear.

Is it just me or is Renato getting hotter..the longer hair..the leather jacket. Let's hope that he does not catch that barracuda Val's eye.

Everyone is turning on AL. I hope that Rennie and Pato are young geniuses and that Sylvia does not sabotage AL from the home office.
 

Elk.????..thanks tablet...sorry ELI.
 

I hate this part of every TN. The bad guys get the upper hand, and the good guys suffer.
 

Susanlynn - I've gotten to where I look forward to your autocorrects as much as I look forward to tofie's lists!


 

And the bad guys are on top for so much of it!
 

Aldonza brought the Humberto thing on herself. It is his property (well Sev's)and she pulls this without a heads up. He has every right to be pissed. I think Aldonza believes she's a bit entitled.

I want me some PJ.

Not buying the love between Aldonza and Cris.

Cris's arrogance is just like daddy

Yeah for Aldonza when she removed Renato's hands from her face but she did give him a little opening.

Good god, Lola is a nut case. Everybody kicks the orphan Emmanuel. I appreciated Emmanuel not getting physical with either Lola or Pato. Boy was hurt. Thank you Lola.

 

Susanlynn, this is EXACTLY what I thought when Sylvia told him the partners wanted to meet with him because they thought he was neglecting his duties in the partnership. She is SO cooly undermining his efforts while telling him yes, they are friends. You saw that lone tear traveling down her cheek. She is deeply hurt and if she isn't pregnant, I'll be shocked!
 

I got that Cris' was in tears last night, but again, I see him with Allie and that's all these two have, the 95% anguish. When we see Allie with Renato, she's stronger and he makes her laugh and moves her out of the doldrums. It's really hard not to root for the guy who allows her to be that way. Sometimes I worry the message in TN's is always you still have to hang on to the guy that makes you miserable...no offense to Cris. I agree, Susanlynn, I sort of like Renato's look' his hair, how he dresses, etc. But I think he looks better because we only pretty much get Cris lately in pout, whiny and macho man mode.

One thought that made me giggle last night in watching E-man's horrendous declaration of love and macho outburst last night was that apparently Sev did not pass on the "how to charm the ladies" gene to his two sons. Granted, Sev uses that gene in the worst way, but it might have been helpful for E-man last night. Cris has sort of lost his Mr. Smooth Moves moniker for me too.

I love Pru as a comic foil, but last night wanted to slap her silly. She really is the town gossip isn't she? And relishes it.

Daisynjay
 

Ditto everything you said, Tofie.

I DON'T GET mis planes?!

She DID only rent the house, so where does she get off suing Sev to remove his animals.

It IS Humberto's property (legally on paper) so he can have horses, cats, dogs, and elephants on the land if he wishes and YES it was baaaaad form not to tell him.

Her mother DID accept payment for El Santuario. You can't come back and invalidate a sale just because you didn't like the price that has already been paid for it!

Unless I'm missing something, this is a major stumble for Aldonza. Makes her look like Aldunce-a.

Anybody got a better take on it?
 

Lila- Sever's lawyer said the contract didn't mention the land, one way or another. So the case can be made on both sides that Al has a right to the land as a part of the rental agreement. That's where the lawyers come in. But having the owner (Hum) strongly state that he had no intention of renting her the lands, is not going to make Al's case easy. She should have tried to sweet talk Hum into it from the beginning.
 

Thanks, Vivi. Hmmm, with having blind-sided Hum, she IS on shaky ground. He's thrown in with Sev now. Okay. We'll see.
 

I'm sympathetic to Humberto's position in this. Aldonza knows he stuck his neck out to rent to her in the first place and she hasn't the common courtesy to discuss it with him. Renato warned her about Humberto and a potential double deal but that warning should have been given to Humberto about her. If it were my property she'd be out. I understand since it was not stipulated in the contract the lands were included Aldonza exploited that loophole but the intent of the parties will be what that crooked judge will consider. If someone rents one of my condos as their abode and then decide to open a Massage Parlor simply because I did not expressly forbid it, they will see me in court.

 

Cripes, I just want to know what is so all-out important to risk life and limb for, not to mention the life and limb of those supporting you, for this piece of property? Owning it won't bring your parents back, I don't think her father would have wanted her to go through this either. Is this all just a big one F***u (excuse my French) to Sev for what he did? That's honestly the only reason I can think of why this is so all consuming for Allie.

There had better be a great plan for this place. And if good people get hurt or killed over her plans, than I may have to cry foul at that point and ask was all this really worth it? I hope we don't see that.

Daisynjay
 

Vivi I agree, Hum was a good ally in that precarious situation but she has now earned his enmity. A big miscalculation on her part.

On the other hand, I want to hire Don Camilo so he can lounge outside MY front door, smoking a cheap cigarette and speaking to would-be intruders in that gruff voice...*sigh*....

J in Oregon
 

Well, look at all Sever has done to get back "his" land. This might just be the lesson for Aldonza. She'll look up on day and see that she has hurt just as many people as Sever has, in order to claim the land she believes is her birthright and was "stolen" from her family. The two of them have the same obsession. Was it moral of Aldonza's great-grandpa to accept Sever's grandpa's lands as payment for his gambling debt? Maybe not, but it was legal and fair. Was it moral for Sever to front Hum the money to buy the land from Roberta? Maybe not, but it was legal.
 

I was screaming for Don Camilo to fire at Cris's feet and make him dance. Arrogant punk.
 

Daisy, you speak truth! Funny how that land, the rocks and the cascading waterfall are just as solid and unimpressed despite Raimundo's body having been twice reduced to ashes, and Roberta's self-inflicted demise. There is no deeply held philosophical stance or spiritual foundation upon which Aldonza's insistence is based. Seems to me she needs to have some sessions with her uncle to get this kind of bearing. She is more than misguided: she is, indeed, willing to sacrifice her own, Tia's and Padre's life on the altar of El Santuario. She promised her mother not to let Sev hurt her again? Well, I think that disgusting "kiss" was hurt and she's become one big red flag-waving target for the raging bull that is Serv.

She's dragging her aunt through all of this and she doesn't even know the whole story. I know Susana made Roberta more than palatable, but if we just stick to the story, Aldonza is risking her and her loved one's lives for a vow she made to a mother who exposed herself and them all to the danger they now face because of her "lifestyle" choices: bedding the most powerful and evil man in town, shooting her husband and Aldonza's father in the back and burning his body to hide the evidence.

Just like her mother, she is obsessing on Severiano Mendoza. Her mother for lust and Aldonza for revenge.
 

".. was screaming for Don Camilo to fire at Cris's feet and make him dance. Arrogant punk."

LOL - but truth be told. Didn't that give you a chill as he felt he could just walk in, aka just like his daddy did. I sort of squirmed at that scene.

(Can you tell I'm not working today? My son is in from out of town for the week, I took today off and we are going to hang out today, but of course, he's still sawing logs and sleeping the sleep of the exhausted. Looks like we'll be starting our day with a brunch or lunch. Don't have the heart to wake him up.

Daisynjay
Daisynjay
 

Just because I was riveted by Roberta does not mean I can forget how much of a mess she left behind. A whole Pandora Box of secrets yet to explode and cause more grief. Grief for Padre when he finds out she killed his brother. Grief for Adelina when she is confronted by Padre and Al for keeping the secrets. Grief for Al when she finds out about her mother's affair with Sever, her missing sibling, and how her father really died. So much pain and anguish yet to come from the secrets of a dead woman!
 

Hi all...Hang in there Eli, as the popular saying goes, if work was fun, "they" wouldn't have to pay someone to do it. That got me through my work years.

Two random thoughts 1) Just how involved were Cande and Padre J prior to him deciding to join the priesthood? Could he be Chris' father? 2) I think Lola can out snit Val any day. I think the two parts were miscast. Thelma Madrigal is so sweet in appearance, while Lola is so beautiful and exotic and does a mean stomp. Think she would have been a much more convincing Val. Pru, priceless and Cande hard and bitter.
 

And of course the pain Roberta's missing child (Em) will experience when the whole truth comes out about his birth, and how he was so close, yet so far from his real family his whole life, while being made to feel unwanted and unloved.
 

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I think Chris is acting more and more like Sev (see tofie and Daisynjay.) I can't imagine anyone else is his dad.
 

Emeraldrose- Considering how shocked he was by her admission of love, I don't think Padre ever got anywhere near that far with Cande. Plus, him being Cris' dad would make him and Al first cousins. That's a no no.
 

Lila, we crossed. I LOVE your reply and analysis. Again, I'm just perishing the thought of what has to happen to make her question if her revenge was worth it.
I wonder Sev's ultimate trick up his sleeve is to lay that hurt on Allie that her mother killed her father. Ade and Padre knows the truth too, so if Allie went running to them, at least the Padre wouldn't be able to lie.

And didn't say, but yeah, I saw Hum's point last night too. I like that Allie is strong, but she's also a tad naïve to think everyone will just go along rah-rah'ing with her without the full story and despite the risk. Joaquin case in point...sure he has a shrew of a wife, but he has a little boy. He's their support and that comes first.

Daisynjay
 

Daisynjay- Unless I missed something while I was away, Padre does not know Roberta killed Ray or that Sever was involved in his brother's death in any way. What he does now know about is the affair and resulting baby.
 

So much pain and anguish yet to come from the secrets of a dead woman!

Amen, Vivi and also your comment at 9:54. My point exactly! Would Aldonza be so self-righteously vengeful if she knew the full story?

But, I guess that's why it's called La Sombra del Pasado

Thanks, Daisy, but does Padre know Roberta killed Raimundo, or were you referring to another thing he knows?
 

I'm so done with Lola. But I was done with her after she wouldn't stop with the candy house. Who's going to see it online for sale?

I'm betting Renato gets fired and he moves to Santa Lucia.

Why would Cris take on hatred if he can't have Aldonza?

I can't see what Aldonza's plans will be after the crooked judge sides with Sev.
 

Hola Patio Peeps--Got a minute, so I'll take it (as hand reaches through bushes for a Melon Spritzer).

Legally, I also agree with Hum and his Caray supporters. Aldie deceived him. Hum would not have agreed to her real intentions AND he would probably have told Sev (which she didn't want him to do). Besides, the year's rent in advance was just for the house, right? We were all in on their negotiations. She could renovate the house at her expense. Nothing was said about "renovating" the pasture land and putting it back into production.

The whole Santuario affair is on shaky ground. Hum owns the property on paper, but Sev says it was his money that bought it. Unless there was a signed loan with terms of repayment, Sev is on shaky legal ground.

I'm sorry they will be going up against a crooked judge. I'd like to see Renato argue the case in court.

Daisynjay, you have an excellent analysis for what Aldie thinks she is doing. If she looked and acted like Cande, instead of all cute, a terrific smile and hairdo, a sunny disposition, dresses hip, young, eligible, cute, and cute, we'd hate her for what she was doing to the nice town doctor and a man with a disability, albeit he's a one-armed bandit.

The 95% anguish, 5% love is so classic telenovela. It's supposed to be all about the romantic tension between the leads that has to last for 160+ episodes until we get to the boda. That's not the way real life works. The writers have to set up so many artificial barriers to keep that going it stops making sense. Are we being too critical? Are the writers out of synch with what the audience expects nowadays?
 

Wow--When I started composing my essay, there were only 24 comments. How time flies. Did someone put something stronger in my Melon Spritzer?
 

Sara...I see your point about Chris' parentage, however, that brings up the nature vs. nurture issue. I agree Vivi, Padre did seem surprised at Cande's declaration of love. Anywho, love the story line, no matter how it plays out.

Off for morning exercise class. (ugh)
 

Hey, Anita!

The writers have to set up so many artificial barriers to keep that going it stops making sense.

Amen! Yes, I think they have. Just like the updated the sexual mores storyline and the presence of tech in the stories, they need to re-think the 95/5 split and spend more time convincing us these people really love each other besides "because we said so." I know there are real life people who fell in love at first sight but that's beyond stale. They need to make us believe and care about the lovers so that we're not pairing them up with other people or telling them to run from each other when we're not even a third of the way through.

Ok. I'll stop whining now. I just hope "they" read our and other boards sometimes -- or, freaky! -- what if they did a survey?!
 

* I mean beyond stale in a TN, IMHO. If you got that going on in real life, I'm thrilled for ya!
 

OK, color me wrong. I thought Ade had told the Padre about the night of the shooting. So I guess it's Ade's secret to bear right now.

And can I say, YES, to this habit of creating a super couple based more on the evil of others than showing us some true loving moments between them. I cold really have gotten more behind Allie and Cris if their whole "love" wasn't a few stolen moments right out of teenhood and a really good snog at a wedding. Otherwise, Cris doesn't seem to have that whole vibe of understanding the love of his life or pay attention to what she says. That bugs me.

Can say the same with Lola and Em. I think we're supposed to think that the lies about their parents will pull them together. Yeah--even friends can do that for each other. Can I see more there too or are we not meant to?

Daisynjay
 

Daisy, maybe Adelina did tell Padre about the night of the shooting; I truly am asking for clarification due to my wobbly memory

:)
 

I don' think PJ knows Roberta killed his bro or the rape.

As much as I loathed TSTSNBN and the wobbly insistence Esmeralda had no choice but to love Pablo at least he taught the girl to read. Is helping a guy with a bum ankle through a melon mine field at night with hot seeds whistling by their heads the equivalent?
 

I so agree with the comments. We rent land to two of our neighbors to farm, but they have no rights to use the house, barn, or out buildings. Likewise, we rent the small farm produce stand to another neighbor, but he has no rights to using any land or other buildings.It is amazing what people get away with when renting. My daughter had two rental properties. One renter cut down sixty trees , and she was never able to bring her to court. Other renters damaged the interiors of the houses and failed to pay rent.Renting is a nightmare, and my daughter got rid of both properties...too much hassle. I cannot see how AL thinks that she can do whatever she wants with the property without consulting the legal owner Hum.
 

Thanks, Tofie!

Is helping a guy with a bum ankle through a melon mine field at night with hot seeds whistling by their heads the equivalent?

Yah, I guess it might be, Tofie. Maybe he would've fallen down and not been able to get up, and then he would be overcome by smoke, and he could've died, or been severly injured so, well, I guess so.

The other bonding moment was revealed when Aldonza told Adelina that Cris was fighting the fire as if the land were his own. I distinctly remembered that line. So I guess their love was forged in the fire!

*Sigh* So, I'm steeling myself for the 95% of anguish!
 

Eli, I'm looking forward to the recap, whenever you have a chance. Life happens :D

I don't know that I have all that much to add to what's already been said here. Seems like a lot of our characters got hit with the melodrama stick last night and were overreacting to...well, everything! There were some unkind things said, sure, but I didn't think they were especially "horrible" things...and as for all the "love" *sigh* no, kids. Just...no.

Mari is so misnamed. Que "Maria de los Angeles Lagos" ni que nada! More like "Maria de los Mil Demonios del Lago de Fuego."

So there's my little spot of melodrama and overreacting for the day :p
 

And, and, and, and...

Those were Mis Planes? Say it ain't so! That's the most half-baked...there had better be more to it than what we heard last night.
 

Yeah. Vodka melons were a better idea.
 

I guess I'll have to make my own. As soon as I get a little hacienda and a degree in Agronomixology.
 

Any slightly snide tone to my comment, Tofie, is not directed at you but rather at "them" for this paltry 5% of passion. Grrrrr!
 

Renato must feel pretty sure that he can work those loopholes in the rental contract, and Al must have a lot of faith in him. I get her short term plan--

1: Get back into the house for extended period of time- check (Convinced Doc Hum to sign a 1 year lease)
2: Repair house- check
3: Get experienced help for orchard (almost check- Joaquin is now backing out)
4: Get a lawyer and some security- check
5: Kick Sever's animals off land to free up for farming (almost check-- it's up to the courts now)

My question is, what's her long-term plan for getting the land back for good? Was her plan to make the land so profitable that she was able to but it back? Or to show Hum how profitable it could be and convince to make a more long-term arrangement? Lease to own? I'm sure there is more to the plan that we haven't heard yet. We've learned about each part of the plan as most of the other characters have. At this point, I think only Al and Renato are the only two people who know the whole plan.
 

Diva....did you say "melondrama".?
 

Now Lila, don't you worry none I take no offense, we're just having fun blabbing away.

Lawd, I gotta have a thick skin. I'll go see family in asia and the first thing they point out is the new age spots on my face that I've tried my damnedest to conceal. Believe me nothing is sacred when they point out the obvious. Raised in the US it was a bit of a shock at first and took me a bucket of tears and stepping on my bottom lip, it hung so low in a pout, to let it slide.

You my dear didn't come close.

 

Before last night and Aldonza's bone headed throwing of Humberto under the bus, I thought she would work on him and he would sell to her.

Thing is having title to that land is the only thing keeping Severiano from bumping Humberto off. I think soon as it were to be signed over to Severiano, Humberto would have a tragic accident.
 

Love the way you express yourself, Tofie! I recognize a lot of what you describe in my Dear old Mom. She keeps it real. Real real, and being 86 takes it to a new level!

;D
 

So Aldonza has lost a member of the BodSquad (Joaquin),but the Captain of the Divine Justice League has stepped up his game. I think it's time I hung out at another table for a while, you know, circulate on the patio some, y'know. Especially if Cris thinks a part of being Aldonza's enemy is to go back with NoValeNada.

If he does, MY bottom lip will be stuck out from being PISSED!
 

I think Aldonza's obsession with the land doesn't just have to do with what Sever did to Roberta but with what he did to her. After all, he forced Roberta to sello by raping her so, while Aldonza can't undo the rape, she can take back what he got from it.

Jarocha
 

I have only had time to watch the first half of last night's episode. I loved the opening scenes (repeated from Friday night) of Severiano and Camilo drawing their guns. Good move on Sev's part to back off. He does not need to have his other arm shot off!
I've got a seat a the Don Camilo table on the patio. :-)
 

The thing about Aldonza and the flaws in her "Mis Planes" is that she is young and inexperienced in business. Her only adult role models on managing one's life were Roberta and Adelina. 'nuff said. The girl has some issues.
 

I almost forgot but Roberta had gotten them in a sorry financial position and the bank ready to foreclose. Selling, paid the bank and allowed her to buy the apartment in the DF and seeded that big ole bank account Aldonza is enjoying right now.
 

Emeraldrose, I'm smacking myself for missing a prime opportunity. Well played!

Jarocha, true, there is that. And she's not thinking clearly because of it. And it kind of plays into the promise she made her mother--that she wouldn't let any man walk all over her. I think she feels like that's what she's doing if she lets him get away with it and have everything his way.
 

In a way, Roberta did set a good financial example. She put the money into savings and didn't touch it. Aldonza was supposed to invest it in a business. I don't think revenge is a sound business plan!
 

Maybe one of Roberta's many boyfriends was a financial planner.
 

Lol...I'll waive my usual fees, you waive your usual fees, and we'll barter services, te parece?
 

I think had Cris not been in town, she and Adelina would have scattered the ashes and headed back to the city. I think her plan is recent. Now she may have stewed for years about what Severiano had done and fantasied about revenge, but no elaborate plan.
 

Kat- But her revenge seems to be investing in the land and starting a profitable agri-business. It's not really revenge in that way. However, it would have been wiser and less troublesome to invest in some other land, instead of starting this dog fight with Sever over Santuario.
 

Yes, if Cris hadn't been in town, the whole thing would be over already, but nooooo...instead it was all. "You leave Cris alone!"
"Um, I'm not here for Cris? I'm here to bury my mom?"
"Like I believe that. Stay away from him, I tell you."
"I'm not...I haven't seen him!"
"You're probably skulking around, just waiting for your chance to jump him. Don't you dare!"
"I...mom...ashes...Please just leave me alone!"
"I can't leave you alone because you won't leave Cris alone!"
"OK, fine, you know what...screw all y'all. You have everything you want and you still can't stop hassling me! I'm bringing you down! You won't get away with this! And I STILL don't want ANYTHING to do with CRIS!!!!!!"
"Yeah, right. A likely story."
 

All points well taken on Aldonza's motivations and what little we can discern of her Mis Planes; I just don't get how a renter can hope to take over a property on the dubious claim that she can also take posession of and improve the land. She's renting for pete's sake! Couldn't Sev break the rental contract based on what she's done and just put her happy keester out on the streets?
 

Vivi, that would have been nice. Go find a failing hacienda and turn it around. Meet a nice guy. Have a quiet life. But nooooooooo...those people pissed her off and now she's mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore!
 

If only Severiano would respond, I sent him a text asking if he would send me the photo Abelardo took of the contract. Absent that, we gotta rely on what Renato and Sev's ambulance chaser lawyer about the content. I did notice Humberto's face when Severiano asked him if the contract stipulated it was the house only and he was like, oh sxxt.
 

I think Renato has a copy of the contract, right? Could we, perhaps, invite him to the patio for a little chat...maybe some drinks...?
 

not a bad idea, but not sure if I would be able to focus on the task but instead undressing him with my eyes
 

Sorry, tofie, what were you saying? I lost my train of thought....
 

I meant, couldn't Hum break the contract?

Y'alls a mess. Yaw better leave Renato alone, Sylvia looks like she could be mean!
 

Before Al did anything, she had Renato look that contract up and down and asked him multiple times if she could do what she was planning. He said yes. So I'm assuming he feels confident he can make it work. However, he also told her to give Humberto a heads up, and she didn't. So that throws a big wrench in everything. Sever can't do a damn thing because he doesn't own the property, unless he has Humberto on his side. If Humberto says that he and Aldonza did agree that she could cultivate the lands, then Sever's lawyer can argue his point till he's blue in the face, but he won't have a leg to stand on and will have to get those horses off the land. The key is Humberto.
 

Lol, Lila...Sylvia looks like if she ran me over with her car, she'd make damn sure I was actually dead. None of this running off to avoid the cops, putting a snake in my bed, drugging my boyfriend crap.

If we trust Renato's mad lawyering skillz, it won't be easy at all for Humberto to break the contract. Also, Humberto really shouldn't have downloaded a generic contract off the Internet without having a lawyer look at it first. I think it might come down to whether the judge is bribe-able. And maybe any applicable zoning regulations? Permits? Just because the land was once farmed, does that necessarily mean that it's ok for Aldonza to farm it now? And if Renato is now warning that this is going to be a "long" fight...how long exactly? Because melons need time to grow. Maybe that's part of Mis Planes...super-fast growing melons.
 

Then she's sunk because she and Humberto didn't discuss her cultivating the land and now he's pissed because he feels betrayed and that she's a two-faced liar who used him. Yep! Hum is the key and from where he stands, she screwed him over!

Padre J is going to be an even more important ally. I know he has no problem with confronting people and being very direct. What other form will his alliance and protection take?
 

Humberto can bite me. All that crap about betrayal. Look who's talking! And he's still letting Sev kick him around. How much longer before he cracks?
 

Just back to read the new comments. I found Jarocha's comment very interesting. Severed forced Roberta to finally sell the ranch by raping AL. AL is now determined to right the wrongs done to her family by taking back the one thing that Severed wanted so much. He has akways been obsessed with getting back that ranch that his abuelo lost. However,AL is very young , and the very young and inexperienced often think that something will be easier than it actually is.

That ranch is a symbol to AL.Owning a farm or ranch is an interesting way of life. It is kind of your own little private world. That is why my sister and I cannot bring ourselves to sell our famiLy farm even though it is costing us money to keep it and renting the land no longer pays all the expenses. It would feel like selling our dad or our memories of childhood and extended family. Our dad worked so hard to buy it and keep it.I can understand how AL feels, but her decision is going to lead to danger and disaster for her, her family, and friends.However, let's face it, emotions often lead people in the real world to make very foolish decisions. Yikes
 

Thankfully, most of us don't have to contend with enemies like Sev!
 

I'm hoping Humberto is playing Severiano. He saw through the higher offer by Simoneta and warned Aldonza so she would take possession quicker. What a crappy way for Aldonza to repay the gesture but hope his distaste for Severiano greater than his disappointment in a young girl.
 

I'm so sorry everyone, I'm still at work and never got around to the recap, if it makes anyone feel any better I finally got cable back, so I can at least start watching the episodes at home
 

Aww Eli, sorry about your workload! Not to worry about the Patio.
J in O
 

I'm thrilled about your cable! Sorry you're stuck at work, though. That sucks.
 

Don't worry about us, we gotta do what we gotta do!

YAAAAY for cable and being able to watch in the comfort of your own home!

Get some rest, Girl!

:D
 

No worries, Eli! Congrats on the cable!
 

Eli..sorry that work is rough right now and hoping it will ease up. We all gotta do what we gotta do because it is what it is. Who said that..Plato or Aristotle ? ..or was it Aldonza ? Hope that things get better soon.
 

Susanlynn: The scary part could be Seve becoming President of Mexico LOL! He wants power & isn't going to stop just taking away AL's land, etc.,

I'm also expecting the Padre to get whacked based on watching the previews for tonight's upcoming episode!
 

" After all, he forced Roberta to sell by raping her so, while Aldonza can't undo the rape, she can take back what he got from it.---Jarocha"

This telenovela could be titled Lo Que Severiano Me Robó."
 

Doris: Might as well rename the show, "The House of Cards of Severiano!"


 

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