Saturday, June 27, 2015

La Sombra del Pasado #94 - Fri 6/26 - Stakes are raised

That's right, Dominga helped the Padre find a document to use to forge Sev's signature.  And if they want to turn her into the cops, fine.  And if they want to fire them BOTH, fine…and if not, Dominga quits.  Mel says they can't work for people who would go after a priest just for telling the truth.  Sev calls them dogs, biting the hand that feeds them.  He tells them to be grateful he's not going to go after them legally, but he wants them gone first thing tomorrow and he never wants them to set foot on "his" hacienda ever again.  Cande and Dominga share a tearful glance before Domina and Melesio leave Sev's office.

Don Antonio has set Em up in what, to Em, is a palatial suite.  Don Antonio wants Em and Solitario working with a trainer ASAP.  Sure, Em rides well, and Solitario is gorgeous, but it's been mostly talent so far.  What Em needs is technique so he can keep improving before he starts competing against more experienced riders.

Severiano promotes Jacinto and tells him Melesio is fired "por metiche" (because he's a meddler) and he and his wife are outta there for being "malagradecidos" (ungrateful).  And BTW, Jacinto's salary won't be going up, at least not until he proves he can handle the job.  Oddly, Jacinto doesn't get the hint that that was a dismissal, and that's because he has important news to deliver to Sev--"Um…a bunch of the guys came by this morning and, uh…they quit."  I had to pause to laugh for several moments, 'cause that was just so delicious.  And then I had to do a fake screencap because I'd paused it on such a great facial expression of Alexis Ayala's.

They what?!


Well, they don't agree with arresting Padre J and they're pissed.  Well, whatever, says Sev, they're fired.  He tells Jacinto to go find some new workers who won't think they're better than him (Sev).  Nobody puts conditions on Sev!  Outside his office, Jacinto and the maid share some "Yikes!" looks.

At the breakfast table, Cande tells Cris that Dominga and Melesio are fired…or, actually, they quit.  Cris doesn't take the news that Sev won't be pressing charges as quite the magnanimous gesture that Cande intended.  Cris remembers that he was giving his parents the silent treatment until they release Padre J, so he declares all conversation finished. Cande tells him not to be childish.  Shut up, Cande…don't make me agree with you.  She says she's working on his dad and whines that she's not his enemy.

Uriel is curious about Irma's absence at the breakfast table.  Mari says she went off to talk to Lola early.  Uriel wants Mari to quit embarrassing the family with all her petty dramas.  So whines and tries to make him feel guilty, but Uriel isn't buying it.  Nor is he buying the "Lola says mom likes her better!" story, though he looks thoughtful at the theory that Lola's the one who stole the money.

Irma confronts Lola about saying that Irma loves her better.  Lola says no way did she say that…she swears!  And she's upset that Mari is manipulating things again.  Lola is grateful that Irma has been like a mother to her, but she would never say that Irma loves her better!  Dominga and Melesio come into Irma's store and tell Lola that they got fired.

Renato tells Aldonza and Adelina that they've done everything they can, and now they need to wait.  Cris shows up and hears that Padre J's pretty much screwed until his parents drop the charges.  Cris says he'll pay bail.  Dominga and Melesio show up and Cris says he already heard about them leaving, being fired…Dom and Mel don't agree on what it was, but they're not living/working at Las Animas anymore.  Cris will miss them.  Hey, Cris, you wouldn't have to miss them at Las Animas if you were, oh, I don't know…NOT LIVING THERE ANYMORE!

Tomas is all decked out in altar boy duds, which Lulu tells him he has to wear ALL the time, not just for Mass.  Plus, he needs to study the Manual de Monaguillo (Altar Boy Manual) and be prepared to be quizzed on it.  And no, it's not out on DVD.  He's not even a full-fledged altar boy yet…first he has to study the manual and pass their quizzes and then he can be promoted.  For now, there's a bucket of water for him to…mop floors with?  Lulu leaves and Pru walks in.  She finds that Tomas' new duds have stolen her will to sin.  Maybe it was the lace.

Predictably, Aldonza invites Mel and Dominga to come live at El Santuario.  They all head out there, but Cris is going to stay and see if he can talk to Padre J.

Pru bought Tomas a cell phone…and she also came to tell him she missed him.  He's been thinking about her a lot, too.  He's realized that it's not just sex between them and he thinks he's in love with her.  Pru is turned off by the idea that he's on Padre J's side.  Especially after he pulled that stunt that's going to screw up her daughter's relationship with Cris.  Tomas says that's between Val and Cris and Val is a big girl who can fight her own battles with her own claws, and she has some long-ass claws!  Pru takes offense that someone who claims to love her could say such a thing.  Tomas may be in love, but he's not so blind he can't see he truth.  Pru says she's not so blind as to fall in love with a mechanic's son who's in training to be an altar boy.  "And don't think you're such a know it all.  The only place you're of any use is in bed.  Know your place!"  Tomas is wounded.  I'm angry on his behalf.  That's just a shitty thing to say.  Takes one to know one, Pru.

Cris wants to talk to Renato, but Renato doesn't think they really need to talk.  He's not stupid.  He knows what happened and he knows it changes everything.  "Chill out. The last thing I want is to pressure Aldonza.  I'm not going to do it when all she wants is for her uncle to be released so he can marry you."  He agrees to see if they'll let Cris visit the Padre.

Cande visits Doña Marga's Dulceria (candy shop) to buy some chocolates for Cris.  But wouldn't you know it?  They're out of his favorite ones.  And Doña Marga is out of paper for wrapping things up as gifts.  And she doesn't have change for the cash Cande's waving around.  In fact, she doesn't sell candy to people who have priests arrested.  So maybe Ms. Cande needs to find herself another candy shop to frequent.

Adriano is in a rush to pack and leave. He's finished his job and gotten paid.  Flavia gathers her courage and says she won't go with him.  She's going back to Santa Lucia.  Adriano threatens to go find Ray and hurt him if she won't come with him.

Cande is strutting back to her truck when she and El Mudo are attacked by a vicious gang of street urchins throwing tomatoes.  I can neither confirm nor deny that I hired said urchins to commit this despicable act.  I could attempt to deny that I laughed my ass off watching it, but you'd know I was lying, so what's the point.

Time for another installment of The Wisdom of El Justiciero Divino.  Padre J tells Cris that a Padre's gotta do what a Padre's gotta do.  And Cris shouldn't judge his parents.  They think they're doing what's best for him, even though they're doing it RONG.  He did this so Cris and Aldonza can get married.  He invited Cris' parents to make peace with his family, and he's going to continue working on that for as long as he remains the parish priest.  Not that he thinks he'll be allowed to stay, even after he gets out of jail.  I wish he'd also clarified to Cris that "don't judge your parents" doesn't mean "keep living with them and letting them control your life."  Just in case Cris doesn't know that.

Mel and Dominga get shown to a large room at El Santuario that we've never seen before.  Dominga will help Adelina with the house and Melesio can take over Emmanuel's jobs (fighting off Lola and Mari?).  When they're left alone, Dominga lets Aldonza know that Valeria is living at El Santuario.  Here we go.  I smell a break up.

Cande comes stomping and fuming into Las Animas…she's got bits of tomato on the shoulder of her shawl.  She's screaming at Sev about the tomato-ing and how Doña Marga won't sell her chocolates and her own son won't speak to her.  She insists that Sev have Padre J released or she'll release SEV.  That's right, this is her house and if Sev doesn't drop the charges, he can get out.  We all wondered what would push Cande to divorce Sev and now we know.  He reminds her that he runs the stables and the stables are what provide for everyone.  "Then we'll all lose, won't we.  Make your choice: peace with Jeronimo or war with me."  Damnit, Cande, stop making me like you!

Aldonza tells Adelina that Dominga and Mel are all settled in.  Adelina asks where they'll get the money for two salaries.  I'll give you one guess what the answer is.  That's right.  Renato's pockets.  And then she whines about Val moving in at Las Animas and probably wanting to move in to Cris' bed.  Adelina warns Aldonza not to behave like her usual irrationally jealous self.  Well, I'd say in this case, the suspicion might be warranted, 'cause Val can't be trusted.  But with all these magically appearing rooms at El Santuario, maybe she needs to invite Cris to live in one.  Or buy him a door alarm.  Or get him one of those strings of braided garlic to wear around his neck at night.

So, what's it gonna be, Sev?  Toña, the maid comes running in, telling Cande to come right away…so she can see Cris limping into the house, aided by El Mudo.  He lost control of the cane getting out of the truck.  Cande shrieks and fusses as a cast of thousands help Cris into the house.

Aldonza, ever wise about relationships that aren't her own, worries about Lola breaking Pato's heart because she's still in love with Emmanuel.  She hopes life is finally treating Emmanuel better.

The cast of thousands help Cris into bed and refuse to give him even a second to rest.  Sev, at a glance from Valeria, hustles everyone out of the room  so she can use her wiles on him.  Which apparently consists of whining that now her dad will have to come see him and, he's just being sooooo insufferable lately, and oh, here, let me prod your wound 'cause I'm a doctor's daughter, so I'm qualified to feel for potentially opened wounds through pants.  Gross…and OW!  When she's done fondling his leg, she goes to bring him some tea, even though he doesn't want it.  Cris, so help me if you saluted that crappy excuse for a medical exam…!

While Em and Solitario train, Don Antonio gets a call about an upcoming competition.  He says he's training a new rider…yes, the one who won at San Miguel…he probably can't be ready so soon, but he might as well try.  I'm struggling not to be suspicious about him, and in all fairness, he hasn't done anything overly skeevy.

Adelina had been holding on to Aldonza's wedding ring and she gives it back to her now.  And then initiates what I'm sure was intended to be a very hopeful, uplifting conversation about how Aldonza is going to get her groove back.  Unfortunately, it's too mired in clichés about doing one's duty as a wife, sex being equated with being married "for real," being the ideal wife, and getting over the sexual trauma by sheer force of will.  Thanks, show.  I know "I'm thinking it's time I seek some professional help in coping with my trauma, because I'd very much like to be able to enjoy a fulfilling sex life, for my own reasons--not because my husband expects it of me" isn't quite as moving as…actually, no, wait, I would have found that pretty damn moving.

Agent Benitez from Santa Lucia shows up to arrest Adriano and Flavia, but the guy taking care of the place where they were staying says they've left already.

Unfortunately, Adriano and Flavia just missed the bus.  He blames Flavia for taking too long to pack.  As he's buying a ticket for the next bus and ranting at Flavia, she's eyeing a pair of cops nearby.

Silvia, wearing a short red dress with a skirt that looks like it just might be twirly, gets an update from Renato when he comes back to the house/office.  He talked to Sev's lawyer, and Nava is going to move that bail be denied.  Silvia and Ren agree that the judge probably won't agree to that, but it will mean that Padre J's release will be delayed while they drag things out.  Sev's determined to make Padre J's life impossible.  In other news, he's mopey because now Aldonza will never be his.  He asks, since she vowed to help him with Aldonza, what he can really do at this point.  "Maybe you could keep Padre in prison so he never marries them?"  Ren laughs and says he did think of that, but no.  Before, he might have done it, but not now.  Not after the big fight he and Silvia had.  She was right--he was crazy and couldn't see that he had crossed the line from love to obsession.  Silvia says he's not the only one and maybe he shouldn't be so hard on himself.  Renato says he's not going to give up on her.  Not until she and Cris are married in the church, and not a minute before that.

Tomas calls Pru, but she's at a Cheater's Club meeting and she ignores him.  Lulu catches him and chides him for making phone calls when he should be working.  He shares with Lulu his woes about his girlfriend who he just had a fight with and how he never thought he was the kind of guy to fall in love.  He's feeling pretty low and thinks that if Padre J hadn't taken him in, he really wouldn't have a single person who cares about him.  Lulu can't resist his sad face and open arms, and for the life of me, I don't even think Tomas is hugging her with ulterior motives.  Are we seeing some genuine personal growth here?

Back at the Cheater's Club lunch, where actual food is eaten because cheaters are baaaaaaaaad.  Pru complains that Padre J has dressed her bad boy Tomas in good boy duds and it totally killed her passion for him.  Plus he said nasty stuff about her daughter.  And he said he was in love with her.  The nerve!

Aldonza goes to Raymundo's grave to thank him for his help and tell him he'll be moved to his favorite place soon.

Joaquin wonders if Adelina is happy because Aldonza has given up on exhuming her dad.  Nope, she's just happy to be there, enjoying the moment with Joaquin and Ray.  And she's been thinking about what Joaquin said about letting whatever's going to happen, happen.  WHAT?!  Who is this person?!  Joaquin is happy to see her happy.  Adelina wants to walk out and see the fields and then go to the waterfall.

Nava informs Sev that he finished paying off Adriano.  In small payments, like Sev told him to.

Toña comes in with Cande's suit…and the bad news that Sev has already left for the day, before Cande could rope him into a discussion he probably didn't want to have.  She dismisses Toña and calls Sev's cell phone.  He has until this afternoon to comply with her demands or it's war.

Antonio and Flavia are arguing outside the bus station.  She's begging him to let her go, but he keeps refusing.  When the cops show up to arrest him, he pulls out a gun and takes Flavia hostage.

Sev is in the police station, ignoring his phone and barely listening to The One Cop In All Of Santa Lucia telling him that if he doesn't "ratificar" (confirm) his accusation, they can't press charges.  So, what's it going to be, Sev?

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If I may quote hellahelle- this episode was AWWWWE-SOME! Now let me read the recap. I know it's going to be AWWWWE-SOME, so let me thank you in advance!
 

Sara, you're welcome in advance! Apparently I get very wordy when I'm recapping on a Friday night and there's so much going on!
 

"Shut up, Cande…don't make me agree with you."

I love when you use this line.

"Hey, Cris, you wouldn't have to miss them at Las Animas if you were, oh, I don't know…NOT LIVING THERE ANYMORE!"

IKR! Word.

"Tomas says that's between Val and Cris and Val is a big girl who can fight her own battles with her own claws, and she has some long-ass claws!"

Love this translation.

"I could attempt to deny that I laughed my ass off watching it, but you'd know I was lying, so what's the point."

I could deny I laughed my ass, but I'm not going to bother either.

"I wish he'd also clarified to Cris that "don't judge your parents" doesn't mean "keep living with them and letting them control your life."

WORD. Grow a pair, Cris-no-balls.

And I am right there with you on the scene with Adelina. It was very disappointing to see how they handled that.

Thank you, Kat for such a rollicking good recap.
 

Diva, thank you soooo much! Once again, due to some pet medical problems, I missed the episode except for walking by the TV briefly and seeing Tomas dressed as an altar boy. Whaaaa? So, you recap was VERY much appreciated.

So glad Melesio and Dominga are taking refuge at El Santuario, hopefully this means the end of them taking guff from "Satan and his Handmaiden"...

J in Oregon



 

Ohhhh! I just got it EL SANTUARIO. Wow. That took me too long.

J- I hope all is well with your pet :(
 

Gracias, J. I hope the pet in question is doing ok! El Santuario is living up to its name, for sure.

Gracias, Sara. I can't believe we've come to this point where Cris' parents are doing things like messing with DNA test results to back up their lies...and his response is to give them the silent treatment? What is he, 12?
 

As far as main couple goes, these two are pretty bad. Not quite TSTSNBN, but getting damn close.

And seriously, Adelina asks "how are you going to pay these salaries" and Aldonza responds with "Oh I'll ask Renato."

Just shoot me.
 

At least they get along sometimes? And they seem to like being together when they actually are together? I dunno. If they don't hurry up and have their church wedding, they're just going to break up again for some stupid reason, and stay apart until the end.

Then again, Pabs and Esme had two weddings and that wasn't enough for them to have a convincing relationship.

To clarify...Aldonza's degree is in Agronomy? And nowhere in any of her classes did they discuss budgets? Profit margins? Startup costs? I could be ok with Renato bankrolling everything if she was contributing her expertise, but it doesn't even seem like she's doing that. She just keeps incurring more expenses, Renato keeps paying them, and even if they manage to grow a crop in the day and a half left on the lease, I'm going to have a hard time believing that whatever they grow will net them a profit.

Was that cranky? I guess that was cranky? Let me go back to thinking of Cande getting tomatoes thrown at her...ahhhh, that's better!
 

5FT, there is spam on the last posting. The last comment.

 

No Steve, as tempting as that is, (Just Kidding), it was a comment after yours.
 

This is so good Kat, thank you. I can always visualize you watching like we're sitting together on the couch.

"a Padre's gotta do what a Padre's gotta do"

"don't judge your parents" doesn't mean "keep living with them and letting them control your life."

"Renato's pockets"

Cande was almost in the car and a tomato hit the back of her head, I lost it, good shot.

I've grown accustom to Aldonza's, drug induced trance like demeanor and flippant solution to every problem, "Renato's Pockets" but now Cris and his pout it out. With everything his parents have done and he is still in that house, stupid.

Renato - if they are still married in 10 years, maybe, just maybe

PJ - pfft, this ain't no lions den

Severiano - forget you, I'll just move in with Aldonza

Cris - what, no happy ending

Aldonza - Renato wouldn't dare deny me

Cande - La Tomatina is in August

Flavia - he won't shoot, he loves me

Mari - and she killed Abelardo too

 

I'm sure Kat will remove any comment or spam that doesn't meet the guidelines clearly stated in her disclaimer.

Natasha hit a bunch of posts a few days ago and in the wee hours this morning. I'm about to email the team now to get it removed from old posts.

I guess the spammers now know to do it before 7 days are up. Jane moderates after that.
 

Wait, I just went back and checked, it's on the last recap, not this one. It's the last comment on the last recap. Episode # 93.
 

Thanks cathyx! I just emailed. I am confident it will get deleted. The Sombra team hates spam!
 

Good morning, 5ft. I want to 1)thank you and Sara for clearing up what Lulu and Tomas were saying as they went through the Ten Commandments, and 2)thank you so much for this bobbing, weaving trip through SL and its environs as we watched our characters play out their allotted roles.

I was an altar boy back in the days when Latin was used, so there was a lot of memorization to get ready to be able to serve Mass. But we didn't have to wear our cassocks and surplices full time or mop the church floor. I think Lulu is somehow pulling something else in an effort to rehabilitate Tomas, and it seems to be working!

Since all Cande thinks about is how she is regarded in the SL social pecking order, the angry workers and town people have hit on the perfect way to sway her. I'll bet the horse operation won't be worth ten cents on the dollar in about a month, what with Mel gone, the shunning from towns people, and the labor stoppage.

Cris, using the silent treatment? Geez! Sara, you're right: Grow a pair. (And while you're at it, wipe that gullible expression off your face.

Val fondling Cris's thigh was just so stupid. He should have been screaming, "Get the hell out of my room, and don't ever touch me like that again." But mostly he should get a room in town.

Thanks again, 5ft. You wove this together so seamlessly and decorated it with you wonderful snark.

David
 

David- I love reading your comments. Poor Pablo I think just has that expression naturally.

That examination of Val's was just bizarre, wasn't it?

May I just say cathyx that I am glad someone else dislikes spam as much as I do?
 

Gracias, Kat. Good stuff.

"Don't make me agree with you" -- yes! Candela has to be completely fed up by now and she still doesn't know the worst of it. And we flies on the wall are still the only ones who know that Sev killed Simoneta.

It baffles me how Candela could endure 20+ years of all this hatred and resentment. She should have ulcers by now. Oh, wait... maybe she isn't even human.
 

Thanks Kat! Fabulous, as usual. The line that made me laugh the most: maybe she needs to invite Cris to live in one. Or buy him a door alarm. Or get him one of those strings of braided garlic to wear around his neck at night.

I'm feeling a weird mix with this TN. It's moving along at a good speed at this point, but I'm so disappointed in:
1) Cris not having already moved out
2) Aldonza jumping straight to Renato's pockets AGAIN. Really, Al? Really? It is honestly making me dislike her. And I don't often dislike the protags, but there's very little that I actually like about her.
3) Adelina not calling Al out on Ren paying for everything. I didn't like the way she spoke about sex, but I am glad she brought it up. I was hoping Aldonza might suggest getting some help for it, but...sigh. Whatever.
4) Mari...Ugh, it's all too much. I need a break.

Quick note: the room Mel and Dom are in is Aldonza's parents's room.
 

Thanks for that tidbit about Mel and Dom's room, hellashelle!
 

Kat, phenomenal recap.

There were far too many excellent lines to list them all but "Cris doesn't take the news that Sev won't be pressing charges as quite the magnanimous gesture that Cande intended", "Cande tells him not to be childish. Shut up, Cande…don't make me agree with you" and "She finds that Tomas' new duds have stolen her will to sin. Maybe it was the lace" were marvelous.

My favorite scene was Cande being pelted by tomatoes. I say nominate those young lads as “model citizens of the day”.

Because the actress is so good and endearing, I tend to forget while Pru is no Cande, she is a cruel, uncaring and vindictive person. Lest I forget her stoning Aldonza, “The only place you're of any use is in bed. Know your place!" reminded me. Sigh.

It's true Aldonza shouldn't be leaning on Renato so heavily but in fairness he deserves it. He does everything she wants, is always there and available to her, takes whatever dismissals she doles out and he still has hopeless hope they might get together.

Now that the shunning has begun, Cande understandably has pulled the "I am lord and master" card on Sev. Even though her reasons were purely selfish, I'm for whatever gets the good Padre released. I hope he doesn't lose his parish or get transferred, as he is the heart of this story. And you are right UA, no one knows that Sev killed Simoneta. I wonder what Cande's reaction will be.

Diana
 

Thanks 5ft, great recap. I love your snarky asides, mostly because I completely agree with them.

Sara, you take first place in nicknames today. Cris-no-balls. LOL!!!

Also, I noticed after reading these comments, that Natasha posted a spam here too. And Sara, spam annoys me too. Especially when it has no point but to just annoy. Why bother?




 

As I've said previously, Candela considered Simoneta to be a piece of garbage, exactly the way she is determined to see Aldonza. She wouldn't care what happened to either of them, but she will be horrified at the realization that she is married to a murderer and a rapist.

Someone commented a while back about how many rapes Sev might have committed over the years. I don't think there were any other than Aldonza, Simoneta, or that prostitute, as any others would have carried a major risk of discovery. He had a specific motive to rape Aldonza, which was to get her, Roberta, and Adelina out of SL. Now it looks like he is casting a lecherous eye on Valeria who is either clueless or will be complicit if she thinks this will get her marriage to Cristobal. When he sniffed her clothes I almost lost my dinner.
 

Kat- How wonderful that you got the episode where Cande gets shunned and pelted with tomatoes. I could feel your glee in the recap and it matched mine. Wheee!

Hellashelle is right. Mel and Dom were given the master bedroom, that belonged to Ray and Rob, and where Eman was born. Nice to see them in El Santuario.

I could not agree with you all more on Cris and his inability to man up and get out. I understood before when he 1) didn't know how depraved his parents are; 2) didn't know how determined Val is to get back into his pants and that his parent are trying to help her; and 3) was immobile. But now? Really, Cris? And that "massage" near his crotch? He is NOT that naive.
 

As I recall, Aldonza was going to make enough money on her agro-venture to buy El Santuario. I'd like to know what she is planting that will bring in that kind of money in one year. OH--no, wait, I don't think that's legal.

SARA, DIVA: thanks for your concern. My handsome kitty-boy won't be feeling any more pain after today :o(

J in O


 

There is no way Val doesn't realize that Sev is checking her out. She totally knows and will use it to her advantage.
 

J in O- that sounds not good and my heart is aching for you. (((hugs)))
 

J in O- Oh, no! I'm so sorry about your cat.
 

Why does Vivi's use of the word "crotch" crack me up?
 

I'm still leery of Don Antonio too. But at this point, I think it's because this actor may be the wrong guy to play the part. They should have used a guy who had the right look, like Eric de Castillo. He has a nice grandfatherly face. He looks trustworthy too.


 

I promise Don Antonio was absolutely wonderful as Don Mauro on QA. In that one he had a special needs adult child and he was loving and tender and absolutely the perfect father.

I still can't imagine him in other way, but I'm nervous since you said he was such a bastard on other shows.
 

J in O, so sorry about your cat. And I was wondering the same thing about her crops. The only one I can think of that would yield a big return would be poppies.
 

J, my sincere sympathy on your cat. Our fur children mean the world to us. My heart goes out to you and your family.

Diana
 

It's so funny hearing you guys be so worried about Don Ant. I hated him so much in Amor Bravio, and then saw the recent repeat of Pasion. But my latest experience with him was as the loving, benevolent patriarch of the main family in Quiero Amarte, where he was the father of Alejandra B (Cande) and Alex (Eman), and Alex played him in the flashbacks to the past. So seeing him and Eman together, seems like a perfect fit.
 

Which didn't prevent Don Eric from playing the perfectly evil Bruno in QTPD.

Jose Elias Moreno is the lead director of Sombra, so I guess he had his pick of roles. I only know him from AB and Pasion, but this should not prevent him expanding his repertoire.
 

Has anyone heard from doris? I don't think she's been around. Did we overwhelm her with our beanie orders? The demand is going to go even higher with this crop business.
 

J in O - I know I can't really do anything, but email me if you just need to talk or anything. I know how hard it can be to lose a feline member of the family. I wish I could help somehow. :(
 

J in O, I"m sorry to hear this. :'( It's never easy losing a furbaby.
 

Anon- I got the same understanding from what Al said.
 

Maybe Cristobal will help out. They are family to him.

It is overdue for him to leave his parents' house. Especially now that Dominga isn't there to take care of him during his recovery. But with 43 remaining episodes I guess the writers will give her at least one more evil move.
 

Does Cris even have his own purse strings?

Aldonza is running this show. She should not have to ask Renato how to fit Dom and Mel into the budget. She should be just as well versed in it as Renato.


 

Renato is her business partner and has invested much of the startup capital, so it makes sense that she needs to consult him about two new employees being added to the payroll.
 

True. The way it was acted has such a "Oh I can't worry my little head about that" feel to it. Adelina shouldn't have to remind her.


 

Who was it that predicted a month an a half ago that Flavia would die in a police crossfire situation? Looks like that might happen. Pretty amazing call.
 

Thank you La Diva del Desierto, 5ft Latina and Kat.
Excellent recap!
My favorite part...as Cande was getting into the vehicle, El Mudo pulled her back out and then pushed her inside.
My least favorite...Adelina when she encourages Aldi in one scene and then sabotages in the next...boo! hiss!

 

"My least favorite...Adelina when she encourages Aldi in one scene and then sabotages in the next...boo! hiss!" with you PBN, Adelina is playing a great game though. She has everyone believing she is some sweetheart. Cande pulls crap on Cris but can't cover as well.
 

ALL, thanks for the kind thoughts about my cat, Balthazar. Yes he is going to the Rainbow Bridge today, but he had reached old age, and although quite ill, seems to be in no pain. So, I'm giving thanks for many years of companionship. Plus I am blessed with a vet who makes house calls. :o)

J in O
 

Thank you for the update, J. My furbabies and I will keep you and Balthazar in our thoughts.
 

Everything about this recap was perfection Kat!! Perfect for my dreary, rainy Saturday morning after fighting with my laptop for the last hour. (think I'm needing a new one.)

But, please, don't take the blame for this. " I can neither confirm nor deny that I hired said urchins..." We will all stand up and admit we took a patio pool for the pay-off. And it was worth every wasted tomato. Cheers from the patio!

But honestly, I'm starting to be VERY frustrated with our lovebirds. Well, more than usual.

First, no earthly reason Cris is still living in the manse after everything he's learned that has happened. If he can pay off Padre's bail, he can get a room at the hotel if he doesn't want to move in with his fiancé/wife/whatever she is. And on top of that, letting Val do the feel up...no, that was just no. Starting to think he isn't the brightest tack in the room or he can't cut those apron strings. Maybe he likes the good life? It's something because it now makes no sense.

As for Allie, I'm sure in her thinking, which is starting to make my head hurt, she thinks Ren is just her business partner so she can keep running to his till. But seriously, after the kisses which only happened a short time ago, she KNOWS this guy is her partner because he still has feelings for her and wants to stick around. He's partly to blame, he lets it happen too, but she needs to stop this. AGAIN, future hubby has cash apparently, you know the bail-out thing, so why doesn't HE PAY FOR DOM AND MEL!! Didn't even cross her mind...

Lord help me, no wonder these two are fated. The will sail off into the sunset in clueless bliss.

And to the writers of this show---if that talk by Ade to Allie was your way to work through Allie getting over her rape and issues, you know, need to just power through...SHAME ON YOU! All I can say without getting really worked up.

Still hoping all is going positive for E-man. I need positive right now in this TN.

I'm voting Sev caves, he won't want to lose what he has. Cande should realize that kicking that idiot to the curb would actually get the townsfolk on her side...but whatever.

Done with Pru. I'm starting to warm to the new Tomas, and he needs to go far away from her now. Lord she was insufferable last night.

Daisynjay
 

Lulu was definitely pulling Tomas' leg about having to wear those altar boy garbs all the time. She was trying hard to suppress a giggle when she told him. Heehee.
 

Daisynjay, great point Aldonza didn't even think of her husband throwing in for two people that helped raise him.

Yes, Renato seems stupid to hang on but in fairness to him, Aldonza hasn't gone three days without dumping Cris and running to him. Cris and Aldonza are married, yet have not consummated the marriage nor is there any talk of cohabitation, divorce proceedings are currently underway and Val is living in the house with Cris. Pretty good odds she'll be sobbing on his shoulder soon.
 

Good morning. I'm working through the comments now.
 

OK, deleted the spam, other comments that did not meet the guidelines that are listed in the first comment. Any questions, email me.

Is Anon at 10:59 someone who forgot to sign their name? Otherwise, that post is going as well.
 

I don't believe that Ren knows the marriage has not been consummated. Al doesn't give him intimate details of what goes on between her and Cris. Unlike Renato who runs to Silvia and even tells her about a cold kiss. Sorry. I am not feeling sorry for Renato in this scenario.
 

J in O, I'm sorry to hear about Balthazar. I'm glad that you had each other for the time you had and I wish you both much love and support.
 

Gracias, tofie! Your list is snarkalicious as always. I especially like Sev's. It's so wrong :D

Gracias, David! I was an altar girl, post Latin. Personally, I always thought the boys looked really cute in their full gear, sometimes distractingly so. I don't know what Pru's whining about.

Gracias, Urban Anthropologist! I bet Cande grinds her teeth and night and has to take something for her blood pressure. She can't be human, with those braids every day, always perfect, always looking exactly the same. It's not natural.
 

I'd be very surprised if Alejandra Barros didn't have a major headache after every day's shooting with that style. I also have trouble imagining that it's easy to do it for oneself.
 

Diva, thanks for that rich and rollicking recap! A few disappointing actions in the epi, but what profound satisfaction to see the tightly coiffed and perfectly dressed Cande fall victim to the village urchins lobbing fruit at her.

J in O, sorry for Balthazar's journey over the rainbow bridge, but glad to hear you had many good years together.
 

Gracias, HellaShelle! I did not recognize that room as belonging to Aldonza's parents. We haven't seen it in so long...and I swear, never from that angle!

Gracias, Diana! The tomatoes were so delightfully unexpected...who does that anymore? It was such a perfect contrast with Cande's need to keep composure...how the hell do you do that when there are flying tomatoes coming at you?! I'm slipping the kids a $20 to TP her house next....

The relationship between Aldonza and Renato just keeps going from bad to worse with every new development. The only thing saving it from going completely over the edge right now is Renato's sudden and miraculous decision to behave like a mature adult and quit actively trying to sabatoge Aldonza and Cris. And, really, what else could they do with the character, unless they were willing to turn him into an antagonist? So intstead, Aldonza looks like a mooch and Renato looks like a pushover and neither one looks like they have any business sense whatsoever.
 

Diva,

I loved your recap and especially, “Silvia, wearing a short red dress with a skirt that looks like it just might be twirly,” I don’t know who started the twirly skirt description, but it really fits so many of our novela gals, hey...and some real gals too! The expression in your screen grab was priceless. Thanks Diva, you are a master recapper!

Although I’ve been the first to defend our reluctant central lovers, I have to agree with everyone, I think that Chris’ move home is just plain nutty and goofy. All the writers had to do was create a (fake) medical device that Chris needed for his rehab that required him to stay or spend time at home. His hobbling back to Las Animas would have fit that scenario perfectly. Writers, you can do better that this. Of course logically, any galan worth his salt would stay with his WIFE in her ROOM! Oh dear.....

Aldonza appears selfish and uses Renato, but creating balance in life takes time. Many young people are users, sad to say, until they are cut off from their money sources. Aldonza is starting a business and it isn’t unusual for the unexperienced “entrepreneur” (ha!) to have a high “burn rate” and spend too much money on the front end. It is up to Renato to put a stop to the bottomless “cash flow.” (Throwing in two bit businesses terms to give my comment more credibility!) Due to her kindnesses to others, Aldonza has become the homeless shelter of Santa L and not many of her guests are putting in eight hour work days yet! I’m really more concerned about her basic plan to plant and harvest something (?) on land that she is just renting from a hostile landlord for only one year.

Love it that the actors use “Caray” from time to time in this novela.

O in J sorry about your cat, I have had to make that decision myself and it is a logical but still sad one....

I'm sure Doris is good, I'll send a heads up and check today. She has been very busy as of late!
 

Gracias, cathyx! I appreciate you appreciating my snark. I know I enjoy it when I read a recap and the recapper was thinking the same thing I was thinking. It's one of those little pleasures in life :) Glad I can give a little back.

Urban: "When he sniffed her clothes I almost lost my dinner." I hear that! While it was done well in the sense of planting the idea and then slowly turning up the "ick!" factor until there could be no question...that was NOT PLEASANT to watch!

Gracias, Vivi! Oh, there was glee...there was so much glee! I don't know what I did to deserve this episode, but if I ever find out, I'll do it again!
 

Sara, "Does Cris even have his own purse strings?" I guess I could maybe imagine that Sev and Cande have always put some monthly sum into an account for him and he spends from there, but even if he's the most frugal guy in the world, that's bound to run out. I agree that Aldonza should know just as well as Renato what the budget is and that it's not unlimited. They never do money issues realistically unless they need it for the plot...like foreclosing on Roberta.

Gracias, PBN! I'll have to go back and re-watch that scene...oh, who am I kidding, I was going to do that anyway!...and review the logistics. I was probably laughing too hard to notice all the finer details. Thanks for filling me in :D

tofie, "Adelina is playing a great game though. She has everyone believing she is some sweetheart." I don't want to dislike her, I really don't, but they taking her fear of being found out and twisting it. I always sympathized with the fear, but this has gone on too damn long and burning the death certificate, replaceable or not, was going too far.
 

If Adelina was one of the antagonist we'd be all over her for burning the death certificate or lying or eavesdropping or just frustrating things and in the next minute all smiles, seemly with no care in the world. What she is doing now is making a fool out of Aldonza and PJ, especially PJ.

Speaking of PJ. Vivi said last week that PJ R Us and totally agree with her and love how in this TN we get a front row seat, a say and a hand in foiling the devil Severiano. Clever because he is not romantically attached but is involved in assisting the protagonist romance, not simply a moral counter weight but a ramrod of justice without a slap or a shot.

 

Tofie, I agree, PJ R Us isn’t “simply a moral counter weight but a ramrod of justice without a slap or a shot.” I like that about the town in general. The shunning, pelting and resignations of the townspeople of St. L hit the Mendozas in their sweet spot, their social standing and yes, there wasn’t even a slap or a shot. It was fantastic to see.

Doris is enjoying the fantastic weather of northern Michigan. We’ll bombard her with our beanie orders when she returns.......

 

Thank you Sandy in TN. It's stupid, but I worry when people are MIA. I'm glad doris is enjoying herself!
 

My favorite word is fantastic, I plan to use it least two times in each post! See above....
 

Oh I love this game! It's so fun to play! It's even more fun when there's a crowd. I'm glad you enjoy the fun, too Sandy.

Can you guess my word?
 

Gracias, Daisynjay! I think you're right--Cande could get her candy privileges back if she publicly ditches Sev.

Urban, I know I can't do braids that tight and that smooth on my own head. I lack the shoulder flexibility. Or a detachable head. Maybe I could do them on someone else, but it sure wouldn't be painless.

Gracias, La Paloma! Oh, they are fruit, aren't they? I have such a hard time not thinking of them as vegetables. Hey, maybe that's what Aldonza could grow quickly. From what I hear, people always end up with far more than they know what to do with.

 

I know it's already been singled out once, but I have to second the praise of tofie's "not simply a moral counter weight but a ramrod of justice without a slap or a shot."

Love it. Love Padre.




 

Sara, my first guess is awesome! Right.
 

Gracias, Sandy in TN! It's nice to see a twirly skirt again. I agree with your assessment of the business issues.

tofie, you're not wrong. We're cutting Adelina a lot of slack because she's nominally a "good" character. She's not investing in making Aldonza miserable, which is what sets her apart from Sev and Cande. All she wants is to keep Aldonza from finding out the extent of her lies. Some of that I can overlook, because I don't happen to think that knowing how her father really died is going to be positive for Aldonza or help her handle Sev. But she and Emmanuel both deserve to know about each other. Even if Aldonza could be perfectly happy not knowing; even if Emmanuel goes on to become a world champion rider; even though knowing doesn't erase all the harm that was already done. They deserve to know. For someone who isn't actively trying to cause pain, she's done a terrific job of hurting people. I can't imagine what she could accomplish if she actually did want to make Aldonza miserable or keep her away from Cris, but she'd probably do a damn sight better than Cande, with a lot less fuss.
 

I absolutely love reading your take on things, tofie. I never think beyond the twirly skirt and shoes (I've got low standards in my entertainment choiceds) and can never add much to characters studies. I do love "listening" to everyone debate. I end up agreeing with everyone!

But yes, burning a death certificate and actively thwarting Aldona's plans for Ray's body are antagonist behaviors and we are cutting her a lot of slack and we probably shouldn't.

And I like Adelina....but I am most upset that she seems to determined to keep Aldonza and Em away from the truth. It pisses me off. He deserves to know that he does have a family. And dammit........that's her sister's child!!!!!!!
 

oooo. Sorry, Sandy in TN the word was banana!
 

Absolutely. Aldonza and Cristobal both love him. That doesn't compensate for a lack of good parenting but he needs people who love him and believe in him.

He's an astonishingly attractive fellow who needs to have the confidence to match. Adelina is robbing him of that by preventing Aldonza from learning the truth. I agree that nobody except Dame Justice benefits from the disclosure of the truth of Raimundo's death, but this aspect of it is unforgivable.
 

If finding out that the real reason for Ray's death was covered up by Sev and there was any way to hold Sev responsible for it now, then I'd be all for her finding out. But once again, for the millionth time on this show, it would all come down to someone else's word against Sev's and that would just bug the crap outta me.

I agree that Aldonza and Cris both love Emmanuel, but they only seem to think about him when it's convenient for them. They treat Lola the same way. It makes it difficult for me to consider them "friends." Maybe if Emmanuel were upgraded to "brother" they'd move him up a little higher on the priority list.
 

Well I admit to not being a big fan of a lot of what Adeline says or does. But the burning of those certificates was the most selfish, stupid action I have seen her do. And not bright--sorry, there are records still out there that can be accessed. This isn't the dark ages.
She has been lying to both Padre and Allie, albeit with different facts. Padre deserves to know the truth about his brother's death, Allie is a big girl that should know the facts and depriving E-man of siblings and an identity is beyond the pale. To me, and this is just me, she claims this is all about protecting Allie, but now that she is an adult, it seems Adeline is more concerned about protecting herself. She's dug herself such a deep hole, I think she's petrified now what will happen if she admits to what she knows.

That talk with Allie was odd too--great one to give marital advice. She seems to always want to just keep things private, suck it up, power through, don't talk to anyone...blah blah. Why has she NEVER suggested Allie seek real help for her rape or issues? Because I honestly don't think she believes she should. She is projecting that sacrificial lamb attitude she has on her niece. So wrong.

Daisynjay

 

LaDiva- love love loved the recap, you were so funny and ingrossing.
You know, the more I watch sev and cande, it seems that they might be loosing their grip or stronge hold in their universe. Their house of cards is slowly cracking. This will be slow and painfull for these two strangely warped people.
When cande went to get chocolate candy, that woman revolted "we don't sell to people who had the padre arrested". I am so going to enjoy watching their universe crumble around them. the same townspeople she turned against Roberta and Adelina and aldonza, is coming back to bite them in the ass. What goes around comes around, and sometimes the sting is worse when it comes back around. OUCH!!!!!!
Don't you wish the characters could hear the fans thought bubbles"move out of the house cris, move out so you wont be controlled by your crazy momma and daddy, and twisted baby moma".
Adonza you better not go into your"I will release you cris so you can be a father to your child" (mantra), I think thats the right phrase for it. They've gone through so much to be together, uncle j is in jail trying to get them back together. And its 2015, he can still be a father and not be married to crazy baby moma. Not the year has anything to do with it. And the seed is not his anyway.
Moma Dom and popa Mel (Bless their Hearts)!!!!!!!!! are the only grandparent presence in cris' life and they're still lookin after him like grandparents should when mom and dad have flown over the coocoo's nest.
LaDiva- was that a typo up in the recap when you said aldonza invited dom and mel to stay at El Santaurio? I think you said that other place where satan and his woman abide.
Its ok we all typo every now and again. Still love the recap:-)

 

"And not bright--sorry, there are records still out there that can be accessed. This isn't the dark ages."

I think this was covered yesterday or the day before and know I read it and said aloud how stupid it was, but I don't think I actually said it "aloud" on the patio.

But--YES! I million times yes! This is the kind of thing that drives me batty. Are the writers a bunch of idiots, or do they think we are?
 

Thanks, Nina.
 

All that does is delay the inevitable. Adelina seems to forget such things.

It's about time for another incidence of Confessional Abuse.
 

cathyx, are you saying there was a spoiler, that you're now repeating, that would make your post a spoiler? Or did you mean something else? Deleting just in case. Apologies in advance if it was unwarranted.
 

cathyx-I went back and found the comment. It was doris!! I wish she could be here to bask in the glow of having a CrockPot(™) Theory proven correct!

Here's the thread:
http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/2015/05/la-sombra-del-pasado-capitulo-66-05-20.html

But I guess technically it hasn't been proven true...yet.
 

ACK! Cathyx is innocent!!!!

I was the one who mentioned a prediction from May. She was asking me if I had inadvertently remembered one of the deleted spoilers!

I'm sorry I brought it up. Sad face :-(

MEA CULPA!!!!
 

Oh, I see! Score one for doris! What are the chances the slackers from Santa Lucia are up-to-date on their training and can take Adriano in without anyone else getting hurt? Yeah, I don't think so either. Though my money is more on Adriano shooting her by mistake than one of the cops doing it.
 

And still I wonder if Flavia deserves to die. She abandoned her kid, but she seemed to want him back. Would they really kill her off for being an adulterer? Cause...Joaquin is kind of still married, too.
 

Yikes! I caused a disruption in the cosmos.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that Flavia won't be around because they don't do divorces when there are children involved. So Flavia has to go if Adelina is going to end up with Joaquin. (and no one better tell me about some TN that defied that rule, it's a general rule that is applied generally, I know there are exceptions to every TN rule). Sheesh!
 

At this point I'd say that while she doesn't deserve to die, it's a somewhat inevitable result, given that she chose to go back to Adriano even after she knew he was wanted for murder. She could have saved herself a LOT of trouble by staying in Santa Lucia, giving Adriano's location to the cops, and having Silvia defend her against the charges of having anything to do with Lardo's murder. But yeah, on TNs, they like things tidy and we rarely see amicably divorced co-parents, so...sorry Flavia, you're number's almost up.
 

No te preocupes, cathyx. It really was a valid question. I've got memories of all kinds of comments. Sometimes I even mix up shows. :-/
 

Ha! cathyx, we are so on the same wavelength lately :D
 

Not that I feel bad for Flavia, but bummer. Sucks to be you.
 

Cathx- your word was platypus, right?
 

Bleh, that's "your number"...my brains know grammar, my fingers often forget.

I don't feel bad for Flavia either, Sara, but I feel bad for Ray. He barely understands what's going on as it is.
 

Aw. Geez. Now why did you have to go and bring him up? I had blissfully forgotten about the little guy. Poor Ray.
 

Platypus? I don't get it.

Flavia was stupid from the start. She had a good looking loyal sweet man with the cutest little boy, and she threw it away for a hawt bad boy with no future. Not that that deserves a death sentence, but it does in TNs.
 

cathyx Sandy in TN and I were joking about my *ahem* repetitive use of single words. So I posted something and asked her to guess which word was my "special" word. And she came back with something not even in the post.

Anyhoo...Flavia's death sentence. I get it. I understand that under current TN statute, a couple cannot divorce when there are children and if one spouse is supposed to be with someone else then someone has to die. I do just wish that TNs could modernize a little? Is that what I'm meaning?

I get "a life for a life" so if you kill someone you're ultimately doomed, but I don't like it when someone is doomed if they haven't been super evil.
 

Comment bomb.

Flavia has been stupid. And I do sometimes wish stupid people would go away. So yeah. Buh-bye Flavia.
 

"...she threw it away for a hawt bad boy...."

Meh. There are hotter bad boys. Adriano doesn't do a lot for me. Tomas is another story. RAWR.
 

Diva are you appearing anywhere in the Phoenix area next week? Mother's Day gift was a trp down to cool my heels for a bit and bask in the sun. (Should I say roast?) Have tickets for Young Frankenstein so far. Would love to see you perform, if you are working while I am there.

Thank you wonderful recappers for keeping me up to date. Mostly miss the shows, but do record them.

Thank goodness the story is picking up again. Want to see Eman really go places and hope he is not being set-up for something terrible. And for heaven's sake someone tell him who he is. Still rooting for Renato, Silvia and Pato. I continue to think Eman and Silvia would be perfect together. I have given up on Chris and agree with someone who commented Aldonza is getting annoying.

Good weekend Peeps. See you all Monday!
 

Sara, I'm snorting at "under current TN statute...." I wonder if that's how they discuss it in the writers' room..."Come on, guys, can't they just get divorced?" "How many times do I have to tell you? The manual says she has to die! We can only break the rules so many times."
 

Thank you, Emerald rose :D Nope, I'm not making any public appearances until the fall, as far as I know. I apologize in advance for the weather. It's not going to be pretty.
 

Hisabruja and Fernando of MCET divorced while she was still pregnant. He thought that baby Diego was his until long after the divorce was final.
 

OMG! You would choose Tomas over Adriano? I've never seen this actor before, but I want to see him in the future as a good boy.
 

So you are at the Adriano table, cathyx? LOL. If I see someone as a bad character, I have a hard time seeing them as attractive and the first time I saw the Tomas actor was in a little bit of QPob...so he's just lovable to me.

I'd have to see Adriano in a good character to decide.
 

You know. Research. Need to watch all these new, cute actors several times to REALLY make a decision.
 

Hi, Emerald Rose!!! Love to see you on the patio. Glad your recaps are helping. :-) Enjoy your trip!
 

lol! What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall of a TN writing session!

Flavia doesn't deserve to die, but I won't tear up about it if she does. The TN laws are firm, but Sombra could be a game changer (to quote 90s McDonald's marketing: Hey! It could happen!)

I agree with whoever said that young people/first time entrepeneurs are often a little...confused as to how to budget their money (honestly, I'm still trying to figure it out!). But I take issue with the nonchalant way Aldonza is handling Dom and Mel's salaries. "::Shrug:: I'll talk to Renato about it...Anyhoo, Val's at LA and it's bugging me!..." I'd like to see a little worry, a little concern that she's dropping two more dependants on someone who's about the same age as her. She says it like it's no big deal, Ren's handled all the other bills, I'm sure he'll pick this one up too. Same with dinner a couple of days ago. "Next time I'll get it. You always get it, but next time, I'm totally getting it. Oh, you! No, you stop! You hang up first. No, you hang up first!" That's how it came off to me.

I think the police have actually been doing a pretty good job in this TN. They follow up on things, they go out of town to check things out, they have a circle of people to ask larger than the main cast. I was actually surprised when the fairly unhelpful detective didn't overhear Dom confessing to her role in the forgery while they were standing in the police station, and in most TNs I would've expected him not to react.

 

So, if I post anonymously, even if I say thanks, I get deleted. Correct? That wasn't in the rules was it?
 

Sara, without their shirts on too. I mean, for a thorough assessment.
 

Didn't know what the thanks was for. I jumped to the conclusion it was a sarcastic thanks for deleting your earlier comment, which was probably unfair. We've had too many problems with anonymous posters lately and it leads to distrust. I don't even know if you're the same anonymous from earlier. Anyway, no, go right ahead and be anonymous, but I'd appreciate having something non-generic to call you, and you're welcome for the recap.
 

For Adelina to get laid Flavia will have to die. Not fair but gotta clear the deck.
 

cathyx said:
"Sara, without their shirts on too. I mean, for a thorough assessment."

I hadn't thought of that, but I think you are very right. I want to be thorough. I need to take EVERYTHING into account.

tofie said:

"For Adelina to get laid Flavia will have to die. Not fair but gotta clear the deck."

Hilarious. You are the Naughty Melon's nightly comedienne. We can't offer much in salary. Or benefits. But you can drink all you want. Whaddaya say? You in?
 

*Sara puts on her metiche hat*

Back on DQTQTQ we started getting mean comments from Anons. It got worse on La Gata. They bordered on being attacks.

Now we are getting spoiler posts from Anons. At least two in recent memory.

Any time I get a notification and it says "Anonymous", I get a little scared.

I understand why a person would want to post anonymously. It just makes some of us a little nervous. It does bother me that I feel this way. I hate that the jerk Anons are ruining it for legit contributors and legit Anons.

The Sombra just wants the Patio to be a friendly place where no one has to worry about spoilers or attacks on the recappers/other commenters (because that makes people uncomfortable.)

And honestly, I wish there was some way to encourage Anons to pick an even made up name. It feels more personal to me and I want to address people by name.

Carp. Now I just made us sound like Cheers.

Where everybody knows your naaaaaaaame.
 

Would love to throw a few back and leave my little paw prints on top all the tables, anything preferable to the absolute bores hosting the dinner party we're headed to. Mr tofie already warned me not to mess with any heads. Hehehe. Oh, backless gowns suck with sweat running down my back.
 

Well how are you supposed to have any fun if you can't mess with heads? That is very unfair of Mr. tofie.
 

If you see Cande, accidentally-on-purpose spill a drink on her for me :D
 

I'll trip her, works
 

hellashelle said:
"But I take issue with the nonchalant way Aldonza is handling Dom and Mel's salaries. "::Shrug:: I'll talk to Renato about it...Anyhoo, Val's at LA and it's bugging me!..." I'd like to see a little worry, a little concern that she's dropping two more dependants on someone who's about the same age as her. She says it like it's no big deal, Ren's handled all the other bills, I'm sure he'll pick this one up too. Same with dinner a couple of days ago. "Next time I'll get it. You always get it, but next time, I'm totally getting it. Oh, you! No, you stop! You hang up first. No, you hang up first!" That's how it came off to me."

I got the exact same vibe. I think it's why it annoyed me.

It's bad writing. Or is it bad acting?
 

Sara, to me, Cris is waaaay into Aldonza, I pick that up watching him in the scenes with her. But I don't feel the same way about Aldonza toward Cris. I don't know if it's the actors or the writers, but it appears to be one sided to me. Maybe it's both, the writers are telling her what to say, but she has control over her expressions. But the actress playing Aldonza doesn't seem comfortable with her romantic scenes with this actor. And since I've never seen this actress before this show, maybe she isn't comfortable with any love romantic scene. I think she's a great actress, when she has scenes with other actor involving other matters, she brings it.

My word of the day is scenes.
 

Woo hoo! Now cathyx is playing along too!

I do like Michelle, but agree with you that she seems uncomfortable in her scenes with Cristobal. I do like Pablo, but found him most believable in UFCS. He's not knocking my socks off here.

Not sure I had a word of the day. I'm sure it will happen when I'm not trying. :-)
 

Meh. A little heavy in the personal pronoun I.
 

Was she uncomfortable in the love scenes in other TNs? I've never seen the actor playing Cristobal before either, but I think if he had a partner who was more into the scenes (My new favorite word), he would shine more. But I think he's doing very well with what he's got, an actress who smiles uncomfortably when he touches her.
 

I don't know if the actors are uncomfortably with each other, but I am uncomfortable with the slow-mo kisses. It's just not looking good for either of them. Normal speed is convincing enough, but slow-mo...yikes!
 

I meant uncomfortable. I swear, I'm drinking water. I have no excuse.
 

Thanks for the recap 5ft! I loved that picture of Severiano, the light makes it look like he has a bald spot and it makes his expression even more hilarious.

Jarocha
 

Jarocha, I will eat my hat if he's not sporting a toupee. Maybe it slipped.
 

Sara, yes, you used fun bunches of times in one post, but earlier you used AWWWWE-SOME twice, with all caps ------ BEFORE our game. I was just out-foxing the fox.

Diva, glad you think that I can still twirl a skirt.

The problem with the (predicted) death of Falvia is that she seemed on the verge of repenting (think PJ would use this word), her choices had given her such incredible pain. You could see it in her face and body language. I would like the preferred, well worn novela scene where she dies conveniently as she rushes back to be the parent she should have been. Sim’s quick park bench advice resonated with Flavia, she changed after that.

Triple read this post to prevent a word of the day situation, which is so much better when involuntary, which maximizes ridiculousness.
 

Gracias, Jarocha! I don't know if that bald spot is really there or just a trick of the light, but I'm going to be watching for it from now on.
 

I get mixed signals from Adriano: he doesn't have the stereotype TN baddie appearance, he seems thoughtful of Ray, not overtly nasty...his one little mistake was shooting Abel and he claims it was a mistake. I know he's going to die but to me he's a more simpatico character than Flavia...

J in Oregon
 

Except he did say he'd hurt Ray if she went back to SL and he was all crabby about her bringing Ray with them in the first place.

Although, if I had to be locked in a room with one of the two of them, I'd pick Adriano over Flavia!
 

So am I to understand that the devorce didn't go through before the truth came out? So they are still married, ( cris and aldonza), but they just want a church wedding? Any takers?
And what happened to lola when she found her mother in the coffee table box? I thought she'd be in shock when that happened. I may have missed an episode. I even went seaching a few back and couldn't find it. Maybe it hasn't floated up yet. That was a dream she had. Only 30, 40 episodes left?!?!
 

That sure does look like a bald spot, LOL!!! Or maybe its the light. I'll be a watchin.
 

It was part of Sev's nightmare. He woke up from that nightmare into another nightmare/haunting about Simoneta hacking off his arm.
 

*snort* Lola finding Simoneta was Sev's nightmare, not him having a bald spot. But, hey, maybe that scares the crap out of him too!
 

Then he'd a guy with no arms and bald. Thats a horrible nightmare, but he so deserves it. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

 

Hee, I think it's the lighting and it's his real hair. Alexis's hair hasn't changed much since he was younger, except from going gray.

About Michelle, I don't think she has a problem acting opposite Pablo Lyle, they both seem very comfortable to me in scenes where they have to show affection.

I think Aldonza has strong conflicting feelings about Cristobal. She self sabotages their relationship at every opportunity and she's not comfortable in it for all the reasons we already know about. I also think she has no idea how to deal with men who show interest in her due to several reasons: because she was told from a young age that she was a slut like her mother from gossipers, because she had no good examples in her aunt and mother and because she has no experience due to her self imposed isolation.

But her character has always made sense to me. I don't see her as selfish or a user. In fact, I've always been on her side when she ends things with Cristobal, since it's obvious to me that she is not ready to be in a relationship with him, or another guy even, as much as she may want to be. It's the show's writers who frustrate me with their lack of acknowledgement that what Aldonza needs to help her deal with her traumas is not a romantic relationship but a therapist.

Aldonza also makes more sense to me than Cristobal, who keeps pushing this relationship from the begining as if there's nothing else he cares about. He doesn't have any work ambitions or any desire to become independent from his parents and while it's common in Mexico for adult childrent to live with their parents, their level of meddling in his life is absurd. He works for them too, and he works where he lives so he doesn't even have that part of his life completely for himself. And it's not like we've been shown that he feels passionate about the land or the horses. He left it all when he thought his chances with Aldonza were over, but he came back when he learned they weren't sibilings.

And it's odd because, for all he knows, the biggest obstacle between Aldonza and him are his parents, so his independence from them is what he should be seeking. At least until he realizes that there's a pattern in her behavior that makes her leave him at any chance she gets and he starts asking why, instead of keep pushing for her to take him back and stay together. Because that's what makes her look cold and uninterested while he ends up looking pathetic.

Jarocha

 

Nah, I think Alexis has a nive full head of steely gray. He's really very good looking.

Cathyx - Word, girl. I posted the same thing a few days ago. Cris has been all in from jump. Aldonza...not so much. It makes it hard for me to root for her, but Cris has been solid on her, so I can stay in it for him. imo, Michelle's ready and raring to be a bad girl; it's written all over her smirk. But a lot of actors say it's more fun to play the villain than the good girl, so I wouldn't be surprised if she did feel more comfortable with her angry, bitter scenes than her love ones. What's more, love scenes can be really hard to sell, I think, because they can so easily feel/become cheesy. I put some of that on her, but I put a little more of it on the writing/direction. I think we've all seen many a bad actor portraying a love scene, but to do that, well or terribly, you have to have love scenes. A and C have had a handful, but not enough to sell me on this grand romance, especially with a tentative actress and an odd lack of non-verbal moments (where are the longing looks? the side-long glances and secret shared smiles?).
 

Jarocha, "He doesn't have any work ambitions or any desire to become independent from his parents...." They've screwed him up, because there was a time, early on, when he told his dad that he wasn't interested in inheriting the stables. He wanted to do something on his own.

I miss THAT guy.
 

Didn't Michelle Renauld play a bad girl in ECDLP?
 

Jarocha - I love your above analysis. It really made me stop and think about the characterizations. I agree with your reasoning, and I think that's why it bothers me so much that we're missing those non-verbal moments between the two of them. In an earlier recap, I commented that If they ever remake it again, they just need to really take better care when crafting Aldonza's character. Give us some more insight into her mind so that we can understand what kind of internal struggle she's dealing with to better justify her wishy washy behavior. They should read your above comment when doing that rewrite.

I think we can ALL agree with you that Cris's living situation has gotten ridiculous. Once he found out/suspected his parents of CHANGING A FREAKING DNA TEST TO MAKE HIM THINK HE WAS MARRIED TO HIS HALF SISTER, then he should've gone the heck up out of there. Everything before is small potatoes: just an overprotective mom, an egotistical dad, some extra sensitive feelings all around. But the sibling lie was crazy and malicious. Plus the Val move, plus the Val grope.

Is he scared to co-habitate with Aldonza because he doesn't know how to handle her issues with sex and even less so with the full cast also living in her house?
 

Sara - Wikipedia says she played the young version of the main antagonist
 

5ft yeah, he even had a job lined up in Mexico City. But it seems that is all forgotten now.

Sara, yep, Michelle is a baddie in ECDLP. I've seen her there and as a sweet nerdy girl in Camaleones. I thought she did a good job in both.

Jarocha
 

If we get ECDLP I'll look forward to seeing her as a baddie.

I don't hate her here. There's just something that keeps me from being all in with Cris and Aldonza.
 

Hellashelle, I know that we have to fill in some of what the characters may go be feeling but, as I said, it's not Aldonza the character I have more trouble with. I do think they need to take her issues more seriously if there is a next version.

As an interesting note, ECDLP was written by the writers of El Manantial, the original version of LSDP.

Jarocha
 

Univision made a big deal saying that we would see "Yo no creo en los hombres" and "El color de la pasión" this summer. They've kept their promise with YNCELH. Hope they do the same for ECDLP.
 

Jarocha- ITA with your assessment of Cris and Al. Michelle looks perfectly comfortable to me in their too brief love scenes. And frankly, there hasn't been much opportunity for this couple to have light hearted moments where they can flirt and give each other longing looks. There is always something awful happening in their lives. Look how much criticism there was when they were being affectionate with each other at Lardo's funeral. Who the hell cares about Lardo? I certainly didn't mind seeing the two being so lovey dovey. But every other time they're together someone's gravely ill, someone's been arrested, someone's died, something's been burned, someone's been raped, someone's been threatened or cursed out in public. It doesn't really inspire longing looks and flirting.
 

Exactly. I just never buy love at first sight unless Levy is involved. I really wish we could have had some more build up.

She does do her gushing scenes really well. You know... When she's gushing about Cris to Adelina or Lola.
 

They're doing ok for teen love, but at some point two adults are going to have to start having some practical conversations and not just "You're cuter!" "No, you're cuter!" or I'm not going to find it believable.
 

Diva and hellashelle both of you have made me think about the schmoopie episode of Seinfeld today.
 

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Al and Cris have had some of those moments when they are united and can talk about things. The problem is the writers don't keep it consistent. It's stop and go-- mostly stop.

I've enjoyed their smooching and lovey dovey scenes, and I enjoyed their early flirting scenes (like the one when she was swimming and he rode up). But I would like more scenes of them sharing their hopes/dreams/fears, planning a future together (not just talking about a wedding), trying to figure things out together, and plotting and working together. We've seen this a very few times. Times that jump to mind include: the evening they chatted in front of her house, just before Sever started the fire; when Cris told her about their parents' affair and they started putting some of the pieces together about their family feud; when she confessed she had been raped and they spoke about their desire to have a family in the future; when she finally filled him in on "mis planes" and discussed how they would navigate him being stuck between her and his family. But almost as soon as we see them start building emotional intimacy, it stops. That's what's frustrating.
 

I can't remember how Aldonza reacted when she and Cris were first together, but I wonder if her current way of reacting to him is supposed to be a residual carry over from her mental trauma from the rape? If this is the case, then her acting is very good, and her future response to Cris would depend on in some way resolving her deep seated hurt and distrust.

David
 

David- Her interaction with him was pretty normal in the beginning. Flirty, happy. A bit worried about her mom's reaction, but not overly so. Unfortunately, his father destroyed that really quickly with the rape. I know audiences usually want to skip right to the big plot points (like the rape), but the tn would have really benefited from them spending a week or two establishing their courtship and falling in love before they threw such a huge wrench into their relationship.
 

Thanks, Vivi. So on the basis of your recollections, I am seeing this "lack of chemistry" between these two as good direction and good acting which will be resolved when Aldonza goes through whatever healing process that the writers dream up.

I have also been struck by the (I think) two scenes where first Cande, and later Sev's lawyer were cutting up his food for him. To me this shows that the "all powerful" Sev is very dependent on others, and if this ever ceases for whatever reason, he will be a very vulnerable individual indeed.

David


 

Interesting David. In the case of Cande I think your interpretation of the food cutting is correct. In the case of the lawyer I just think it shows the lawyer a servile little prick. :)
 

While reading these last two posts I've been wondering why Dominga didn't do this in the kitchen before serving the food. Or why she hadn't switched to a serving style that doesn't require knives all the time. For example:

The second time I made coque chasseur I used boneless chicken and cut it into large bite-sized pieces halfway through the process. This is so I can bring a batch to a casual party in the future where it can be served over wild rice in a bowl and people won't have to bother with knives because they're not sitting at tables.
 

Maybe Dom does it that way just to stick it to the bastard. :) But I'm guessing she cooks what Cande orders, because the food we see the Mendozas eat seems very Euro/American, versus what we see her cook up for herself and Mel. Although it would be interesting to see how Sever would get his food into his tortilla and wrap it up.
 

I would think spooning some food into a tortilla and wrapping with one hand is still easier than steak. But frijoles on Cande's table? Horrors! ;-)

I may need to go to a Mexican restaurant for lunch today and try eating with one hand. It's necessary research. I'll make the sacrifice for the patio.
 

Report back on your research findings, Sara. :)
 

Well, hubs reminded me about the leftover Korean in the fridge so the research will have to wait another day. ;-)
 

I guess I’m the only one, I think Chris and Alde are in the only place that they can be with chemistry. The writers have damaged any chance of typical novela fireworks for them. Chris’ father not only raped Alde, but he has licked her face, visually undressed her and let’s not forget his one-handed choke. Any woman who twirls her skirt to such an evil guy’s son so soon after all these assaults is wired incorrectly, in my humble opinion. She can’t look at Chris without reservations. Also, Alde has the same problem that Adelina has, she is at a loss to tell Chris about his father therefore she ends up hiding important information from him which slows the progress of their physical closeness. Add all the obstacles that Vivi outlined in her 12:52 comment and we have an emotional dam. The writers should have done a Hatfield and McCoys thing rather than deep weirdness. Viewerville talked two days about droughts and water rights, this alone with dancing horse competitions and animal grazing conflicts could have been enough to keep them apart yet have great flashes of chemistry, like the older novelas. We did not need the Sev/Aldonza assault story line.

Sara, eat the Korean with one hand and report back. The real question is if you can make a margarita with one hand....
 

Sandy in TN- I love "deep weirdness." It is really perfect.

And what was the point of the water rights and diverting the water if it was just going to be dropped? I guess it created tension at the time?

Not sure if you can make a margarita with one hand, but you only need one hand to throw back a shot of tequila. :)

 

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I loved the water rights story line......

Sara, yes on the tequila, but think we'd need to buy only screw top wines which is fine with me!
 

Wine in a box!
 

Wine in a box, even better and we could the money we saved to rent farm land for one year and grow a money crop!
 

R&D really needs to work on growing the melons with the vodka already in them. How's that coming, Kat?
 

Oh, crap...I knew I was supposed to be working on something. Is that what all the vodka was for? Um, hey, can someone ask Renato if he'll bankroll another case?

Urban, I like your question about the food. It seems like it would be both easier, and keep the food warm for longer, if Dominga just prepared things in a way where someone doesn't have to cut it up before Sev eats it. A petty revenge of Cande's? He gets steak every night, but it's gone cold by the time she cuts it up for him?
 

Revenge is a dish best served cold.
 

And who knows cold better than Cande!

Also, I'm with y'all who are wondering what happened with the water crisis. It seems like they just did that to add tension, but expected us to forget that there was a legitimate problem that was affecting the town and the ranches--even ranches farther away from Santa Lucia. Sev decides not to divert the water from El Santuario to avoid disturbing Simoneta's final resting place, and suddenly the problem goes away? Did the burst dam just fix itself overnight? Or is the water shortage still on and everybody is ignoring it because of all the dramaaaaaaaah.
 

I guess technically the government could have already come and fixed the damn?
 

Which makes Sev look kind of stupid, because here he was, contemplating taking an action that would expose one of his crimes, and all he had to do was wait another day. He was acting like he had to do something, and fast, or he wouldn't be able to water his horses, and now it's all forgotten.

There have been plenty of times when a serious situation like this comes up in a show and even though everybody is working on solving the problem, that doesn't stop all the romance and the machinations of the villains, and it ends up getting solved/dealt with. If other shows can handle it, why not this one? They went kind of half-assed with this water subplot, and I'm disappointed, because they've done so well in other areas.
 

Just a yes or no- Was there a water subplot in El Manantial?
 

Kat, Thanks for that detailed and romping recap.

Al should plant squash.The neighbouring farmer who rents half of our acres just planted squash. I was surprised because the farmers in this area usually plant corn and soybeans. He told me that he sells trailer truckloads of squash to grocery stores. Squash has become very popular which seemed to surprise him as much as it surprised me. . Maybe melons are out , and squash is the in crop these days. Also, hit Renato up for a tractor or two.
 

Squash is pretty tasty.
 

And it's really fun to say.

Squash.

Squash.

Squash.
 

Calabacín is kind of fun too.


 

Gracias, susanlynn! Good for your neighbor! And thank you for bringing up another potential crop that grows fast and sells easy...maybe Aldonza can hear you from here. We've gotten lucky before, right? And now you've got me thinking on a vocabularial tangent (What, that's a word, right?)....

How do the words for the actual fruits and vegetables in English and Spanish line up?

For example...in English, when I think of "squash" I think of something like spaghetti squash or butternut squash, but I don't think of pumpkin...in Spanish, does the word "Calabacín" or "calabaza" apply to all of those, some of those...?

And then with melons, when I think "melon" I'm thinking of cantaloupe, usually, unless I specifically say "watermelon." I'm actually not a fan of cantaloupe, but I love watermelon, so if I were to see a sign for "melón" I wouldn't care, but "sandía"? I'm all over that!
 

And now I'm further wondering if this is even a conversation we can have without pictures or charts, because I'm not sure all English-speakers agree on what "squash" is, for example.
 

Even if vocabularial isn't a word, it should be.

When I hear "squash" I think of the yellow variety and with a longer curved neck.

The Mexican restaurant where hubs and I go have a soup with calabacín that turns out to be zucchini.
 

Zucchini isn't a squash? And I'm not a big squash eater in the first place, so that probably doesn't help with the discussion...I've had zucchini in zucchini bread, but that's about it.

Wordreference tells me that "spaghetti squash," which I have had, is "calabaza cabello de angel" (angel-hair squash) or "calabaza cidra" (citrus-colored squash?). But I always wonder if that's really the way people say it or which one is more common.
 

No I meant zucchini was a squash. But when I went to wordreference I typed in "squash" and got calabacín which I've heard used zucchini. But I'm now wondering if English speakers ever call zucchini anything else but zucchini.

When I think "sqaush" I'm always referring to the yellow variety. If I mean anything else I'll add the modifiers "butternut", "acorn" etc.
 

Oh and I never say zucchini squash. Just zucchini.
 

You know I didn't know there was round zucchini until I saw some at the farmers market down town. There was some green and some were yellow. The lady said it taste just like regular squash or zucchini, you can cook It the same way, It's just a different shape. I don't think I'd see anything like that in a supermarket. I didn't even know zucchini was a squash, just zucchini, I found that out years ago. But I like it all.
 

My neighbor seemed quite amazed that squash had become such a money crop for him. He even mentioned spaghetti squash in way like " heh..who knew that was going to be a thing...these city slickers" When my dad farmed , most of the farmers around here grew potatoes and corn. The farmers in our area also grow fields of pumpkins, and pick-your-own is a popular preschool trip. ..quite literally a "field" trip! Maybe Al could go that direction.

Yes, squash is a fun word. Hey, it would make a good safe word.Speaking of which, I like to see the crackling chemistry between the leadsz but our leads are celibate. QTH

 

As for reimbursing tofie for her talent....let's bill Renato !
 

I love potatoes and corn. I don't care what anybody says. They're vegetables to me. *braces for an attack from the THEY'RE STARCHES! squad*

Squash is...well, I'm working on cultivating an appreciation. I'm not working very hard at it, mind you. Green and yellow zucchini, like Nina mentioned, always ends up being part of the mix when a restaurant serves "steamed vegetables" as a side. I haven't been impressed so far. Spaghetti squash I wouldn't have tried if I hadn't seen a video tutorial about how easy it is to microwave, but I don't see it as often in the grocery store. I think I've had butternut squash (which Wordreference says is both "calabaza" and "calabacín") in a soup before with pumpkin ("calabaza"). I think that's about the limit of my squash experiences :D Oh, and the zucchini bread...would that be "pan de calabacín"? "pan con calabacín"? does it not really translate?

I agree, susanlynn, field trips to El Santuario would be a BIG hit...lunch al fresco out by the waterfall, maybe a little swimming. She could totally clean up. And now that Dominga is living there, the lunch itself would be an attraction, too!
 

Try squash soup. It's great in the winter with Cheddar cheese melted on sour dough bread under the broiler.
 

Cathyx...Yum..I love soup. My favorite restaurant has delicious soups. I have had loaded potato soup ..yum..and chicken tortilla soup..also yum. I make a pretty good chicken noodle soup and a tasty chili.

I have also seen fresh from the farm restaurants that use all local produce. Dom could turn out a great spread. I'd go. It would make Candygirl livid. Oh..!let's do that.
 

Hello all! I love these restaurant ideas! Can we expand The Naughty Melon Bar to a bar and grill? If we're adding to the menu, I love pumpkin pie and and pumpkin ravioli.

I was really upset at the lack of build time for A/C's lovefest, but now I'm just going to take it at face value: they say they love each other desperately, the story is built around it, so fine, I'll accept it as true. Next time around maybe they'll address the mental gymnastics Aldie does or doesn't have to go through to love Cris in a way that makes it clear that she has trouble with it. Otherwise, they could've just taken it out of the equation entirely and made it clear that she has no problem seperating Cris from his dad, but maybe as trouble dealing with all men on a sexual level. Eh. Who knows. I'll only make myself crazy thinking about it.

I felt for Pru at the beginning of this TN, but she's definitely earned her anvil. After the cruel way she dissed Tomas? I'll be glad when she realizes he's moved on with Lulu (which is where it seems like this is going).
 

At least with Tomas and Lulu we are getting build up and more flirty time.
 

Flirty time is good. Cris and his declarations of undying love out by the waterfall in the rain while the fields were on fire--that was hot stuff on a whole lot of levels. Lately...lukewarm. Maybe I'm missing the waterfall and the rain and the fire. Or that things were comparatively uncomplicated back then. Now they say "I swear, nothing will ever separate us ever again!" and I want to smack them both because they've said it SO many times and it never stopped them before, so why should it be true this time? The plot has progressed, situations have changed, but we're getting the same platitudes.
 

"I have also seen fresh from the farm restaurants that use all local produce. Dom could turn out a great spread. I'd go. It would make Candygirl livid. Oh..!let's do that."

Susanlynn, from your lips.... And Dominga knows how to cater a party, too. El Santuario could be a nice little event center.
 

And I hate to resurrect a Pru idea, but great wedding place too.
 

It was a good idea! Even a stopped clock, and all that. And she was doing a good job of problem-solving Val's objections, but Val was just being a jerk.
 

Although heels and a wedding dress may be difficult to manage in that area. And seating?

Perfect for pictures, though.
 

I would propose they build a deck, or put a few ramadas out there. I guess that's always the tradeoff with outdoor venues. It's gorgeous, but you're screwed if the weather doesn't cooperate!
 

I am waiting for Sim's coffeetable\coffin to bubble up . That has to happen before the bar and grill\wedding venue happens.
 

Tonight on Wedding Nightmares!

And having Simoneta resurface wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen at a Santa Lucia wedding. Sev would hit on all the bridesmaids, Pru would start a food fight, Candela would slap the bride, Val would get the groom drunk....
 

Omg spewing decaf!

That'll put a damper on any event.

Susanlynn seems all innocent, but drops the dry wit bombs all up in the patio.
 

Um. What kind of tables do we have at the Naughty Melon? Has this already been asked and answered?
 

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