Wednesday, November 30, 2016
Vino el Amor 11/29/16 Chapter 22: Where in the World is Sonia?
Fernanda and Friends and Margaritas. Tipsy, topsy, mopsies talk about unrequited love--Fer’s, that is.
Labels: vino
Well, there was "The Blouse" again. In other episodes, we saw it in cobalt blue, aqua, and purple. Last night, it was in baby pink and deep rose. So, will we see it in more colors?...yellow, coral, green, gray, white, black??? I guess Luci walked into a store, found a blouse she liked, and said "I'll take that one in every color you have."
What is it with galans letting women continually get into their personal space and touch them??? Dave...despierta !!!
Is Very going to end up with TAno in the end? I am not buying the Susan\TAno match.
Well, I am off to teach modal auxiliaries. ...so, later gators.
"I like hard-headed"
Really want to like this show but David is too stupid.
Waking from his depressed slumber, faced with losing his Vineyard and home and over extended with the bank, an independent audit would be first on the list and at least suspicion arise over Juan's lack of accounting prowess. What does a guy gotta do to be noticed, I mean, he needs a bucket and mop he salivates so heavily when he hears or sees a number.
When Lisa lived David was well aware Graciela wanted him, would rebuff her advances and she acts no different now, so is he just allowing her 30K of grabby/feely?
Has he forgotten how nasty Lilian is and yet it was she that lead the lynch mob?
I understand Miguel defending his lady love but what owner would want an employee that gets in his face growls and flexes. Show Miguel the door.
David publicly humiliated Luciana and accepts she will not forgive him so why is he allowing her to go on a three day farewell tour especially after Mighty Miquel claimed her. She wants to leave, leave.
I don't understand why men in novelas don't tell off the grabby females when they get out of line. In the real world most men have no hesitation about this, especially ones with little or no impulse control. What is wrong with saying "I'm not interested?"
Sonia must still be recovering from the rush of intimidating the employees. I was glad to have her off my screen along with the working class Mean Girl duo. The one good thing about Sonia is that FerBrat and Bobby are not warming up to her.
FerBrat is still under Graciela's evil spell. I swear when I look at Graciela I see some kind of supernatural nasty; the color of her irises is almost non-existent.
We can expect more of the same from David and Miguel re Luciana.
You know, I luuuurve all you Caray commenters and recappers. I have watched more TNs than I can count and many of the names here have been around a Looooong time. I have tried so hard to get interested in this show, mainly because of the many familiar 'faces' here. The level of stupidity, ignorance and evil on this show, I just can't get on board. If they would sweeten the pot with Gracie and Luci in their underwear (or less) every once in a while, I might be able to put up with the rest. We get Lillian?
Dorita and Hurla? That gnat and mosquito which buzz around and annoy you to DEATH and you can't seem to swat them away.
If David is the poster child for us good looking men, he is fired.
Urban said: "What is wrong with saying "I'm not interested?""
Long ago some very very large chick at work was chasing me mercilessly. "I have a girlfriend", "I'm just not interested", etc. actually did not work.
Finally she asked for a ride in my big 4 wheel drive truck. I told her as soon as I got that old refrigerator out of the back I'd be glad to. It worked.
ITA with everything you all said. David is so dumb. And how many times will we get this “I’m leaving the vineyard” -- “no, don’t go” storyline? Seems like this is at least the third time she was leaving.
Susan asking Tano if he had a thing with Fer seemed so wrong. That attractive mature career woman shouldn’t be in a love triangle with a teenybopper.
Kudos to the young actor playing Bobby. He's not overacting and not annoying.
"Gracie doesn’t lose an opportunity to check David’s biceps and “…when Lilian returns from her Triumphant Tryst, still Trumpeting into the cell phone” were among my many favorites.
Alas, I keep hoping we will have more substance with these stories, yet all we are fed is filler.
"He thinks she’s acting like a five-year old with these stupidities". Yes. I do too. David has done so many things wrong, at least he realized Fer was drinking and gave her a strong lecture. Drinking is illegal for her on level ground, driving and climbing should be obviously off limits. I hope he grounds her.
"Suddenly, Luci realizes the magnitude of the sacrifice she was asking of her mother and changes her mind. She should stay with them. Marta has an inner glow that just escaped its bounds". That just made me sad. While I understand Marta's attachment to David's family, it should never transcend her loyalty or her love for her own children, who need her just as much.
I hope Sonia appears tonight to brighten our day. Just as you've brightened mine Anita. Thank you...
Diana
Ohhhh.....I wish I could get that bedroom scene of Lillian and Gutierrez out of my head. I just want to "undo" from my brain. The whole thing just grossed me out completely. What the heck does he see in her? Surely as good looking as he is, he can do much better than this dried out old woman with a nasty personality. Is there something she is doing for him that he can't get elsewhere?
I missed seeing Sonia this episode. Usually she's all over the place when something big is going down.
I've been very good this year and I..
Well, most of the time, except,..
Maybe once in a while,
Oh Never Mind, I will buy my own stuff.
Ferbrat
toa
Seems Susan has her back, Bobby does and of course Miguel but everybody else wobbles. Well, we don't know how Miguel will react if she romantically rejects him for another man.
Why didn't the writers use another character instead of Susan to be Fernanda's competition. Agree Niecie, Susan is an educated professional woman ending an abusive marriage and negotiating a property settlement which includes her own home. She is playing handsy, kissy with a guy receiving midnight text from a teenage girl, the daughter of her employer. This got weird all over it.
I'm actually surprised that FerBrat and Bobby weren't sent away to school after Lisa died. David wouldn't have done that on his own initiative, but I could see Lillian working on him about it. They would have definitely been better off without her influence.
Tofie--I had let my memory slip on the other "indignities" of family solidarity Luci has dealt with since she returned. Thank you for reminding us about Leo dating Carito. But she did tell him it wouldn't bother her--or was she not being truthful.
Urban--Agree, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the storyline, the timeline, including the set up beginning 20 years ago. They set the characters personalities in stone and now are stuck with them.
Yes, indeed. Who tolerates having someone as negative and useless a leech as Lilian for 15 years. David should have built her a MIL cottage at the other end of the property (NO STORY). Lilian is successful at getting rid of half of the family she can't stand, but the one person she truly despises, she can't get rid of in 12 years? (NO STORY.) Lilian would have been the first person to ship those two kids off to boarding school after Lisa died, no kids, no need for Marta (NO STORY).
Graciela tried to jump David's bones, takes a hike for a few years to forget she was involved in her sister's death (and a blackmail threat). She gets rich off her art (?) and then returns to bankroll a failing vineyard. She could have done that from urban-cosmopolitan Milan, Madrid, or Paris, where she was drinking herself to death (NO STORY). I don't see her painting anymore.
Luciana believes her destiny lies in a vineyard her father loved, a mother and brother she hardly knows and a childhood friend. Most of her formative years (school years) have been spent in Mexico, she has a good education, a potential career and friends (?) there. She comes back to scatter her dad's ashes, finds she has no connection to Leo or her mother and is disappointed that Miguel doesn't set off fireworks after that kiss. She goes back to Mexico (NO STORY).
I think Luci was at first flattered by Miguel's attention and her sweet memory of him as children, but as she came to the realization that her heart was leading her elsewhere--even were it to be a dead end, she sort of keeps Miguel's hopes up as a backup, treating him as a friend without benefits, but all the rest--the looks, the hand holding, hugging, walking arm in arm, confidentialities, etc. After David's first kiss, she should have been honest, but firm with Miguel and told him to back off the "maybe someday" carousel. If he had (NO STORY).
Urban--I agree with your assessment of Carlos/Tano. OTOH, if I remember my youth properly, young girls also tended to want relationships with "older" guys, two or three years ahead of them in school, because the were so "mature" and those their same age were so childish.
Well, enough dissecting for the time being. Looking forward to tonight.
NOTE: Uni's Teleton is scheduled for Friday evening, Dec. 2, so I'm assuming no tns that night.
Involved? Let's see:
A chicken is involved with bacon and eggs, the pig is committed. She murdered her sister, sister. And she was not trying to forget, she relishes every second of it every day. You are more than kind Tofie. :-)
toa
However, Graciela does NOT like to get her hands dirty with any dirty business. That's why she has maneuvered Fer into being the point-man in this latest caper to get what she wants (not what Fer wants). Nothing is going to come back on her--least of all accusations from a whiny, bratty teenager that lies.
She’s surely suffering from a hangover and is contentedly pissed.
Love it! Agree with all your observations. I am struck by how long it's taking Luci to vamoose! I kinda hope she does go to another vineyard so we can see something other than those huge wine vats, the ivy-covered door to the wine cellars and the employee digs. Jeezopete!
Once again, thank you!
I consider it odd that she doesn't see through Graciela's motive for this.
FerBrat, like most kids, probably sees her dad as asexual after the loss of her mother. I've known adults who hated the idea of their widowed parents remarrying at all. This is typical teen selfishness.
Leon needs to realize that Carito HATES him, Luciana, Marta, etc.,
Don't like that he just don't slap her hand away.
He can't see that his loving family are just a bunch of moochin lo-lifes
Whose just bleedin him dry. He needs
Lucy, he better do everything he can
To get her to stay. He's got a friend in Cesar, but he knows nothing about
The vine. Mig does what he can but his heart is somewhere else. Well he wants to prove Lucy didn't do the deed and to hell with everything else that's not Lucy. He's sweet, and headed for heartache, he needs a sweet girl, not
Lucy.
I'd like to like the gut-man, but he's
Slowly falling off the "he's a good guy" scale. Down to the "I am slime"
Scale. The perfect person for lilian.
OK gotta ho, its on.
I totally agree with the Susan/Tano weirdness. Isn't Tano much closer in age to Fer anyway? His dad mentioned him being in community college for a bit. So what is he - 19, 20? Susan looks like she is in her early 30s - educated, professional, divorcing, owned a house...They are world's apart.
A Tano/Fernanda secret love story of rich owner's daughter and handsome vineyard boy is way more believable to me. Maybe that's where the story is going? Why is Tano not being honest with Susan in that Fer has a crush on him? Susan did not look convinced by Tano's assurances that nothing was going on.
I'd love to see this TN do the unexpected and have Luci actually leave and be working at another vineyard for a while.
Also, I think it's cute how all the vineyards are named after cities in California? As if they really want the audiences in Mexico to know this is California LOL
I thought that Lucia was actually going to work at a vineyard in Santa Barbara, CA, which is 370 miles away from Sonoma.
I couldn't figure out why Lucia was telling Bobby that they would still get together sometime in town.
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