Friday, April 21, 2017
Vino el Amor #130; Thursday April 20, 2017: RIP Sheriff Brian Gutierrez
Luciana: “Yes, you are right! And you know what? Get out! Get out and don’t ever come back! Go be happy with Grace, but me, please leave me in peace!”
David: “You know what? I think this is for the best.”
Lots of yelling and frustration. Perla and Juan yelling. Perla and Carito yelling. Lulu and Dave yelling. Hey, Dave, you made your stupid decision, so why don't you just leave the girl alone. Marta and LIlian yelling.
You know who wasn't yelling... Miguel. He was just being supportive.
Marta and LIlian are disgusting. I have had more than enough of those to harpies. Basta!
And poor GUt in a body bag. Grim.Well,time to watch some kitten and puppy videos.
“You are a coward! Instead of fighting for love, you are taking the low and easy road.”
Luciana honey, David is not different now, you just see the real him.
Where was Ramon?
I laughed so hard, the first 3 things out of Marta's mouth when approaching Lilian was he loved me not you. Those old hags still fighting over a guy.
Hope David fires Marta. Do it for his kids, Marta attacked their grandmother. No wait, that will send her to Adolfo.
Perla isn't totally stupid. Kill the Sonoma County Sheriff and they won't stop.
Kirby: At least Gutierrez confessed to Marta about Lillian having him deport Daddy Munoz & Luciana.
Tofie: You want to bet Carito told the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department about the illegal immigrants smuggling activities ?
Cynthia: You know this likely means Ramon will be getting Marta!
Perla is still delusional. As to Carito's situation the logical thing (Will it even happen?) would be for the police to check the cell phones of the killers and trace where the photo of her came from. However, with a dozen episodes to go and that not taking enough time to fill it....
Even had Carito called for help immediately Gutierrez would have died in the ambulance. I think one of the bullets hit a lung.
The other cop treated Carito like trash the way he talked to her.
Marta attacked a woman who doesn't give a flying damn about those kids. Lillian deserved ever blow. However, her statement about "Everyone I loves dies" is probably prophetic.
Thank you for managing to turn this depressing, dismal, disaster of an episode into a beautifully written summary. Your translating the dialogue was wonderful!
So, Marta did still love Brian. I suppose that is part of the reason they killed the character. She would never really be able to move forward with Ramon since she was harboring all the intense feelings for Brian. I'm not going to comment again as to how she could love him after what he did to her family. Did the fact Lilian asked him to negate what he did? Nopis.
And I'm also wondering if Brian's death is paving the way for yet another hookup? tofie, if Lil ends up with Adolfo, I will be beside myself.
“FerBrat turns into FerBitch and goes from zero to 100 in two seconds”. Perfect Cynthia.
Overall, I have been sympathetic to Fernanda. Ignored yet spoiled by her father, desperately missing her mother, she had much to deal with. Yet, your phrase described what occurred perfectly. Bratty behavior is bad enough but she did go into full bitch mode because Tano had the audacity to bring up Luciana. I would like to think she had the grace to feel a bit guilty, but I don’t see a shred of that…
While Miguel’s over possessiveness with Luci has irked me in the past, I am glad he stepped up to ensure Luci wanted to talk with David (although heaven knows why she would). I thought he was great last night Susanlynn. He was protecting his friend, not his property.
And yet things continue to spiral downward. “she has cleared up Fer’s thinking adeptly with her mind control” said it all. Urging her not to fight with Tano was rather inspired. That way, she wasn’t saying anything against Luciana, she simply deflected the issue all together. Further, I loathe that Graciela was completely able to stop Bobby’s missing Marta and Luciana by throwing out Cristiano’s name. She pulls yet another rabbit out of her hat.
“My children are doing better than before, understand that!” I am starting to intensely dislike David. Luci treated his children with nothing but love, affection and respect. He needed to defend his love for Luci to his daughter and stuck with his resolve to send Lili and Gracie away. Fer would have kicked and screamed, but in time, she would have realized Luci is a good person.
So Perla realized Juan put a hit on Carito, yet she proposes running away with Juan, rather than running from Juan.
Things are so ugly right now. We have 2 weeks for the tide to come in and sweep most of these unsavory characters away.
Thank you Cynthia!
Yes, I was also surprised at the police's rather hostile attitude toward Carito. But after thinking it over, I think they are probably feeling she is the reason their sheriff is dead. Not fair and not acceptable, but likely their immediate reaction.
Perla actually knows, on a low level, what is going on with NoJuan and Carito etc. She is just too scared (and selfish) to admit it on the surface. Before she dies she will utter the words "I knew it all along."
"...will get Marta." Goody Gum Drops what a prize for a nice, dumb nutless fellow.
Speaking of 'seed free' men. maybe Dud Vid could try to grow at least one, put his foot down, and get to the bottom of the chaos and pestilence befallen the House of Robles. Somebody needs to be in charge, even if it is not the first choice. And speaking of, many times even a wrong choice is better than no choice. But as minted little David is just not up to such manly chores.
Urban, almost ALL logical thinking and actions would destroy this flimsy story. We used to have a sign in Software Development that said:
"If builders built buildings, the way programmers write programs, the first woodpecker who came along would destroy civilization." So No. We can be sure that Gut's bullets miraculously struck the perps cell phones in addition to killing the perps.
David: “Look things haven’t been easy for me. And much less when I see you holding things in like that.”
You liar, Dudweed! You've been having a grand time and YOU'RE the one that needs to hold things in!
Luciana: “How dare you! I’m the one who sacrificed for you so that your children would be well. I thought that when things were better and back to normal that we would have another opportunity to try our relationship again. But it looks like the result was that everything became about Grace.” --Cynthia
“My children are doing better than before, understand that!” I am starting to intensely dislike David. Luci treated his children with nothing but love, affection and respect. He needed to defend his love for Luci to his daughter and stuck with his resolve to send Lili and Gracie away. Fer would have kicked and screamed, but in time, she would have realized Luci is a good person. --Diana
Yep, little Dudveed, that he couldn't hold in, made him renege on the deal. It WAS a cowards's way out and the easy road. NOT that his priority was his children's stability but that he declined to do the hard work they agreed on as Diana described above.
Luciana told the truth about herself as well:
Luciana: “Well listen to me now. No matter how hard I try to hate you, I cannot do it. And I know I’m a foolish woman but I just can’t stop loving you. And no part of my soul wants to know that you are going to marry another woman.”
And there you have it. We don't need to see the leads actually respect each other, fight for one another or have swoony kisses and bedroom scenes, just one of them needs to whine that they're in love forever, and that's good enough! So, I guess we should stop our whining!
Next: The demise of NonMagic Brian!
Yah. I knew Marta and Lil would be thrilled to have a new dead man to fight over but Marta didn't waste anytime firing it up, did she? Jeezopete. I wish Lil had gotten some licks in. Marta has no place for self-righteousness, she's a hideous and petty whore:
FERNANDO WAS LILIAN'S HUSBAND and Lil started dating Brian first! WTF is Marta so indignant about. Gosh, I hate one of the bullets didn't hit her!
Kirby, these cows have probably gone through the menopause gate a long time ago. Cessation of menses doesn't necessarily stop hot flashes OR being a BITCH!!
Okay. Something I don't understand is how are they spinning Marta's encouragement to tell the Police "the whole truth"? Does Marta know the whole truth? If she does, why, when Carito came back from interrogation she said, "lo unico que les dije fue que esos tipos fueron armados y llegaron a atacarnos" The only thing I told them was that those two guys were armed and prepared to attack us. . .or were armed and attacked us."
What? The ONLY thing I told them? And then Marta tells her it's always good to tell the truth and that's the same thing she's going to say!
Again, WTF? Did I misunderstand? This should have been a major scene where Carito tells the Police everything she told Brian, information for which he pledged to protect her life and for which he DIED doing so for crying out loud! So, Juan's involvement in the human trafficking and poison wine died with Brian?
Ok, ok. It's not even 9 yet. Whatever. Jeez.
That said, Cynthia, thank you so damn much for this recap. I somehow missed or blocked out most of the non-Marta/Lilian/Carito dialogue, so that chat between David and Luciana...y'all know I've been the lone guy on the Patio trying to give David the benefit of the doubt about his motivations, right? Even I can't forking defend this one. For the first time in a while, he came off as truly selfish (or, giving an inch, entirely and epically wrongly obsessed with his children's well-being) and Luciana was completely, totally right in dragging the fork out of him for the whole thing. (But then she kinda went full Marta when she declared that she couldn't stop loving him. Never go full Marta, Luci.)
And that brings us back to Lila's all-too-correct comment that
We don't need to see the leads actually respect each other, fight for one another or have swoony kisses and bedroom scenes, just one of them needs to whine that they're in love forever, and that's good enough!
If there is one specific failing we can point at with this show, this is it. Luciana and David have only sparingly fought for their love (and let's be honest--Luci's done more of the fighting, such as it is), while just about everybody else has fought and generally won theirs--except for Miguel, who basically got handed his on a platter. And Brian, but...well...
How could this have been considered a good idea on the part of the writers? How does this ever even work?
I still say Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam are more believable than this group of space aliens.
This story was about the masterful puppetry of a beautiful but psychotic woman who always fought aimlessly for her mother's love and dominance over her favored sister. This woman finally finds a way to win her mother's favor by replacing the favored sister, a sister favored because she "married well". She tries to steal "the good catch" right from under her sister's nose. That failing, she impulsively kills her sister during an argument about her own sister's husband and then positions herself to invade, mind control and take over him, his children and his entire business empire already significantly deteriorated due to the years-long embezzlement and undermining of her mother and former brother in law's "best friend."
See anything about love in that synopsis?
I'm beginning to wonder if Lisa was really a saint. The other women in that family are horrible, especially that young twit Fernanda.
My first exposure to fighting over a boy was in 8th grade. Had to save up to buy my own cheerleader shoes which were promptly ruined with pink liquid hand soap poured inside. A girl on my squad didn't appreciate the attention her bf showed me.
1. Graciela's obsessive love for David
2. Miguel's all-consuming love for Luciana
3. Lilian's love for squishing Marta (and Sonia, et al.) under her heel
4. Marta's love for her kids...Fernanda, Bobby, Leon, and then Luciana
5. David's trying-to-make-up-for-lost-time love for his kids
6. Perla's blind love for Juan
7. Juan's love for his father (thus, his obsession with revenge)
8. Mark's obsession with Susan
9. Carito's ongoing crush on Miguel
10. Fernanda's love for Tano
11. Miguel and Erica's love for each other
12. Sonia and Leon's love for each other
13. Lilian and Marta's love for Fernando
14. Cesar and Susan's love for each other
15. Lilian and Marta's love for Brian
16. Tano's obsessive love for Susan
17. Ramon's enduring love for Marta
18. Marta's love for her #armoredclogsofdoom
19. David's love for Luciana
Good point about Luci, tofie. You softened somewhat on her, didn't you?
Ha! Lil and Marta. Indeed! I thought they were going to kiss last night!
And why I mentioned the shoe incident because it is the maturity level of Marta and Lilian.
Anyway, the shoe incident was also the consequence of my naivete. I went from invisible to popular between 7 and 8th grade and fell for every drop of insincere drivel from the boys. In a bizarre way the girl did me a favor though it was hard because the boy was so cute.
Tofie...yikes. .that girl was not playing...pink liquid soap. Did you retaliate?
Which, however, does not excuse any of her actions.
Lillian is likely to end up alone at the end of this tale. She has ruined any chance she had of having anything resembling a loving relationship with DisGrace. She should have been encouraging her in her art instead of harping on her not being married to a man of money and status. However, that might not have helped because DisGrace's obsession is truly off the charts.
“why not drag it out and have it make sense, pick leads who can physically stand each other, or, don't advertise it as one thing and give us another”. Hear, hear, Lila.
“Luciana and David have only sparingly fought for their love (and let's be honest--Luci's done more of the fighting, such as it is”. Sigh. So true Bill.
“I give Luciana a pass on honestly declaring her love for David while realizing how foolish she is”. I do too tofie. She is one of the few remaining characters I like.
“DisGrace's obsession is truly off the charts” – yes Urban. Totally! And I was sorry to read about your brother – a great loss at a young age.
Kirby, I would actually be happy to see Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam at this point.
Susanlynn, Lili does love her wine, doesn't she?
Great fun today all.
David: "I needed to explain myself" Hey David, if you really loved Luciana, you would give a little more thought to what SHE needs. It's not all about you. I hope when you finally come crawling back to her on the shards of your broken life, she gives him bus fare and sends him home.
When Luciana kicked David out, I wished that she would literally kick him. Or at least slam the door on his butt.
Poor Susan has to hear all about their every transaction. She should also get a job somewhere else.
Soooooo... Marta loves dead Brian. What does this mean for Ramon? Probably nothing.
FerBrat is bratty again. What a surprise. This girl has never once failed to get anything she wanted. Good luck to you, Tano.
Grace must be losing her mind if she thinks a boy would rather talk about her wedding than watch TV. Sure she'll get Cristiano... last time she needed something from him she had to beg Joselo to call his agent. Joselo is now out of the picture.
Miguel and Luciana on the couch! Oh, if that sofa could talk. (It would say "wash me")
"[Lilian] goes on and on about how much she loved Brian about how all the people she loves die." OK, Lil, what is the common denominator in this equation? Right, it's you. Have some more wine.
The Marta/Lil smackdown was awesome, except I don't think it went far enough. And tonight I recap Bobby's reaction!
She knows she can promise the world, if she will never be held to deliver. I have noticed that is one of her tools, to make all sorts of promises when she knows that she can not be held to fulfill them, or the delivery date is far enough in the future. It is a common ploy used by dishonest humans.
I didn't know dishwashing liquid could be weaponized! :-(
What was with the cops being so nasty to Carito? She didn't shoot the sheriff! No wonder she was afraid to tell them the rest of her info.
If we are talking Looney Tunes characters, I nominate Pepe Le Pew because this STINKS! And David can be Foghorn Leghorn, because he's a chick- I say a CHICKEN.
Bill: "Never go full Marta, Luci." Amen! At least Luci knows that she's foolish. As for loving David forever, it will surprise her just how brief "forever" can be.
Oh well, It appears Marta has some 'Splainin to do. I am sure Lil and DisGoinToDaChapel will help gloss this over as Marta lovingly helping Lillian fight off a swarm of Malaria mosquitoes and all will be forgiven. Marta will stay, because deep inside the two constant companions Lil has are Ripple one liters and Marta the punching bag.
BooB will be at school telling all his prepubescent buddies:
"Yeah, you shoulda' seen it, My Gramma and my Nanna going at it like a couple Mud Wrestlers, I just wish they were younger and Hot, and didn't wear so many clothes like the girls on that site you sneaked and found on your phone, Charlie..".
The writers deserve tons of blame for not making this story clear.
The cop who mistreated Carito should know better. You don't get information out of someone like her by making her more afraid than she already is.
BTW, I love Pepe LePew. I'll bet this is his baby picture.
The baby picture is awesome. Couldn't have done better myself.
(That may explain a LOT)
However, we need to get back to Disguised who does not care a fig ...or a grape... about any of these happenings because she is now Bridezilla planning her weddddinnggg.
Gee, I really love you
And we're gonna get married
Goin' to the chapel of love
Spring is here, the sky is blue, whoa-oh-oh
Birds all sing as if they knew
Today's the day we'll say "I do"
And we'll never be lonely anymore
Gee, I already taste you
And I'll have you
Roasting on the spit before dark
Spring is here, the sky is blue, whoa-oh-oh
Birds all sing as if they knew
Today's the day I'll denut you
And Field Dress you like the
Tasty critter you are dummy.
I forgot Pepe was romantic. Never mind. He can't be the VEA mascot. We'll save him for a stinker that has some romance in it.
Speaking of identifying with cartoon characters, the Pink Panther was my imaginary best friend. He didn't talk, but I guess we communicated telepathically. Or maybe his body language was expressive enough.
I still identify a little with Butters Stotch.
Hey, now that we have seen the Marta \ Lilian matchup with the obvious winner, will we get to see a faceoff between Lu and Discovered . Lu could take her , in fact, she might take her face off. Lu is fierce. Maybe a tag team..Lu and Marta against Disowned and Mommy Dearest Lilian.
Miguel is being so gracious and understanding as Lu moans and groans about Dave doing her wrong. Hello ! Miguel's fiancee just DIED, girl. And still, he is there listening to you go on and in about Dave.
"He can't be the VEA mascot. We'll save him for a stinker that has some romance in it" Perhaps that IS for the best Julie :)
I hope that their friendship stays strong. Miguel is very vulnerable. I don't want him to reach out to her in grief for any more consolation other than a hug. I don't sense that happening at the moment, but Luci has always been his Achilles heel.
Carito still needs to be afraid of Juan and if she didn't talk she can't be protected. This means that anyone around her will be in danger. I don't want to see her die but I also don't want her to get Miguel.
Urban that’s true, we just don’t know that much about Fernando, but we have to assume he was unhappily married to Lilian. There was an episode where Lilian admitted to Grace that Marta had an affair with Fernando (it was at the hospital, after Fer sprained her ankle from her drunken fall off the ladder/roof) and Grace just wasn’t surprised at all. She told Lilian something like, “Well what did you expect? All you ever did was run around with your friends and spend lots of money. You were never around for him.” At that time, Grace seems to have hinted that Lilian was a very self-absorbed woman who didn’t pay much attention to her husband or her daughters. Maybe Fernando had money, but perhaps Lil’s objective in life was to be a rich socialite. She probably spent a lot of money to appear much wealthier than they actually were. So when he died, he left them in debt. He seems to have gotten back at Lilian by leaving her an apartment in Grace’s name.
I was disappointed at Marta’s behavior. She shouldn’t come in to beat up Lilian because she should have a lot more sense than that. Those two acted like they were trying out for the WWE and it sure was not very entertaining to me. I felt like screaming at both of them to just give it up and move on. What Marta should have done was calmly go to David and let him know what Brian’s dying words were to her. It would have been much more effective, instead of her stupid knee-jerk reaction to get even with Lilian.
I transcribed David and Luciana’s conversation because I felt it was important to know what a coward David really is. Luciana knows darn well that their relationship could have been put on hold temporarily till Fernanda went off to college. He was weak and felt bamboozled into staying with DisGrace, making it a serious relationship ONLY BECAUSE Bobby caught them in bed together. Somehow I think that DisGrace’s objective was to be caught, that’s why she was careless and nearly forcibly seduced David with her sneaky, underhanded ways. She knew that if she got David between the sheets she could manipulate everything to her advantage. It’s all she really needed to do.
Thank you for the sweet baby skunks and the fox. Simply precious!
DisGoinToDaChapel. Good one, Kirbo!
I wouldn't be surprised if DG could make him believe Lisa's murder was an accident or even her fault!
Oh, also loved the variation on "Goin' to the Chapel!"
Last evening, there was a baby possum in my backyard eating an orange that fell to the ground. My friend asked me what that little animal was and I told her that it was a possum. She had never seen one before. I showed her a picture of what they look like when they are grown up and boy are they ugly. I told her that if the baby was around my yard, mama possum couldn't be very far away. Baby possum was kind of cute, but I'm sure mama possum is scary.
Kirby, I was laughing at your "Going to the Chapel". Good job!
I am not so sure that DG will turn into Bridezilla. At least not with David. I'm sure she wants to have a nice wingding, but I think her priority is making sure she gets married. If she pushes David too hard, the little night-light bulb might go on over his head again. Maybe not enough to make him call the wedding off, but enough to make her nervous. She needs to keep him happy for now.
And if she went bridezilla on Fernanda I think she'd be in trouble.
Now, if you mean bridezilla in terms of how she treats Sonia and/or Marta, then maybe.
But if you mean bridezilla in terms of how she treats Lil, I'd bank on it. Graciela is just about the worst punishment any parent could ask for.
Let me see, so David wanted Luciana to say, "I totally understand why you are marrying a woman you don't love and rejecting me in order to please your grown "me-me-me!" daughter and your son, who adores me, can meet Cristiano Ronaldo. Now that you put it that way, after you marry, drop on by anytime and I'll accept whatever crumbs you give me."
But for the moment, I'm dying to see how Marta explains to David why she was beating on his double-mother-in-law.
And some kinds of flies love vinegar.
But yes, Gracie has that one down to a science. She even knows how to handle different types of flies. It is quite a skill.
As for the sugar and vinegar..My mother-in-law used to make a delicious salad dressing with sugar, vinegar and mayo.
I cannot wait to see everyone's reaction to the bombshell that is waiting to drop. There will be moaning, groaning,sighing, crying, yelling, screaming, flailing, hair pulling. It is going to be epic.
I'm sure that CK thought to herself that the trauma of witnessing someone die like that is more than enough to provoke such behavior. Her worst problem beyond this point is going to be wondering why he waited so long to tell her about this.
Fer yellin at tano.
Perla yellin at juan.
Lucy yellin at dave.
Marta screaming at Brian not to die.
Dave yellin at them two Ol geezers to tell him "What the hell is going on in His house". And even if marta even told him the truth, would he even believe Her, since his family is so very very Well adjusted now. I think
He'll take lil's side. He's just that
Dumb. Look at how easy his ferbraty little princess talked him into thinkin he should marry Tia succubus.
He probably thinks it was his idea.
Fer expects everyone to be happy about
That disastrous marriage from hell. I
Think she should go to college and latch on to some other unsuspecting...
No nobody deserves that.
I want to see David's fake happiness go bleeewwwy. Who let's there kid and
Manipulating in-laws scramble his brains like that. He probably thinks he came up with the idea to marry that succubus. He's that dumb.No that would
Be the spoiled princess. " I just want to know that you and booby will be taken care of while I'm at college. I
Really don't like that spoiled brat.
Thank you Cynthia. Good recap.
What would be the one dish that DG can cook? Scrambled pork brains, for example?
When it's an extra special occasion, toast with cold cereal.
She "made" pancakes for Booby last week - perhaps she's the one who put the blueberries on top. Steady hands!
Faaamillly Style Burnt Toast
You're Toast (Your toast)
Here is a consolation photo of a genuine guapo.
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