Tuesday, December 05, 2017
Caer en Tentación #32, 12/4/17, Lunes: Illicit Relations and Their Price Tags
Chapter
32: Illicit Relations and Their Price Tags
Mia
listened to a message from Julieta on her voice mail about the
conversation with Raquel. When Raquel came into her room to talk to
her she was not willing. Raquel did not allow her to put her off
this time. She sat down and asked her whether she did it. Mia
finally showed her mother the cut marks on her inner thighs. Raquel
told her she loved her and they would get help for her. She cried as
she told Mia she loved her with all her heart and that she was not
alone. They finally hugged, both crying.
Carolina
sat up in her bed and thought about Damián's statement that the
situation was now out of their hands and that they should end their
affair. She started getting sad. She may or may not have remembered
that she tried ending it numerous times already. She laid on her
side and pretended to be asleep. Santiago thought her asleep as he
went to their children's rooms to check up on them.
Damián
spoke on the phone to Vicente and tried to arrange a meeting in a
public place. Vicente wasn't going to allow that, insisting that it
be in Damián's office. Rather than argue about this all day, Damián
agreed.
The
following morning Damián's secretary informed him that a very
“disagreeable” man was waiting to see him. Andres was in his
office when Vicente arrived. He pretended not to know who he was but
Damián didn't identify him as he dismissed Andres. Then he had
Vicente enter. Vicente's mocking manner annoyed Damián, but he
withheld his temper. Ever exercising his sense of entitlement,
Vicente asked for something to drink, then as Damián called a
secretary for coffee, changed his mind and asked for tequila. Damián
said he didn't keep it in the office. He then got to the point and
asked Vicente to state his demands.
“Accordding
to Carolina, I'm the least ambitious of the family. What would you
say to a monthly payment?”
“A
monthly payment?”
“What's
up, Blondie? You never heard of a monthly payment? I'll explain.
It means that every month on the same day you'll give me the same
amount of money.” He winked. “That's what I mean by a monthly
payment. How does that sound?”
If
he could have bottled his gall he would have been a millionaire.
Lola
and Nicolás found their father asleep in the master bedroom.
Carolina told them that all was well, but they didn't believe her.
She told them to go to school with peace of mind. Vicente sent
Carolina a text saying
I'm
with your lover; don't know how the negotiations will go.
Santiago
woke up and told Carolina that he didn't want things to continue as
they had been.
“What
do you want? Do you want me to leave the house? Do you want us to
separate?”
Lola
held Benjamín as Mia arrived looking for Nicolás. She asked where
he was.
Nicolás
was at Alina's house, where they were kissing heatedly. She pushed
him back with a “Not so fast! I'm not playing with you. I want to
enjoy you.” whereupon she ordered him to strip. “First the
shirt.” He obeyed. She paused a second or two. “Now the pants.
Slowly.” He obeyed; although he was horny he was somewhat
confused. She looked below his waist as she closed the distance and
took control of the situation with a kiss.
Santiago
told Raquel he missed her. He wanted to kiss, embrace, and be with
her all the time. She also wanted this but said they could not do so
because of their children.
“Raquel,
we are free. We can do what we want.”
“Damián
is alive,” she said.
“No,
we are alive!” he responded.
She
explained that Andres had paid all of her debts and had done so
behind her back. Santiago wanted to give her the money to pay Andres
back. She declined it, saying she didn't want to get Andres against
her because it would be dangerous. Santiago didn't agree and Raquel
told him that the money was her due. They started arguing about it.
Santiago's cell phone rang. It was Antonio, telling him that they
had identified the car that was in the suveillance video prior to the
“accident.”
Lola
told Mia that Nico was out picking up medications for Benjamín. Mia
realized that Nico didn't have to stay with his sister to look after
the child. She handed the baby to Mia as she took the cell phone
away from him, saying she needed to go to the bathroom.
Santiago
told Antonio that he knew no one with a car like the one in the
video. Antonio told him that the car belongs either to the Legato
company or to a member of the Becker family. Santiago was relieved
that this would relieve Nacho of suspicion, but Antonio told him to
be careful when driving that night to make sure he wasn't being
followed. Santiago told Raquel this and asked if she really wanted to
accept Andres' money.
Lola
called Nico and left him a voicemail that Mia was at their house and
what she had told her. She also warned him that this was the last
time she was covering up for him.
Nicolás
and Alina were crossing the finish line at that moment. He was
enjoying himself a little too much. “You're in debt to me,”
Alina said. “Thanks to me you were free.”
His
phone signalled that he had a voice mail and Alina grabbed his phone
and played it back. “Is Mia your girlfriend?” she asked.
“Well.....
more or less.”
“Good!
What are you going to do? Are you going to see her?”
“No,”
he said, hastily. “I want to be here with you.”
She
stopped him momentarily as he tried to kiss her again.
“I
want you to see your girlfriend.”
“What?”
Now he was truly confused.
“You
know what I want most? That you fuck her tonight.”
“You're
joking.”
“No,
no, no. I'm serious. And tomorrow you tell me who is better.”
She
got up to put on her robe.
“Are
you nuts?” he asked, almost not believing his ears. “You want me
to be with someone else?”
“Aren't
you going to do it? Don't lie to me. I don't like liars. Get
going. And don't forget to stop by the pharmacy so you don't go home
empty-handed. What are you waiting for?” then kissed him and sent
him on his way. As he left his predecessor stepped out of the
shadows, pounded on Alina's gate, then rang the bell. When she came
out she brutally rejected him and told him to leave immediately or
she would call the police.
Fernando
had just congressed with Laura when his phone rang. He told Antonio
he would be right in. As he got up he told Laura that there was a
break in the case. After he asked her not to tell anyone she
promised she would not and he told her that the car in the tollbooth
video was identified as belonging to Damián's company. She reasoned
that this meant that either one of the Beckers or an employee of the
company is Carolina's killer. She mentioned Andres. Fernando was
sure that Andres would be driving his own car and their recent
investigation had not made a suspect of him. He made her promise not
to say anything on the news. Her facial expression, which he did not
see, said that his trust would be misplaced. After he kissed her
goodbye she took out her cell phone and looked at the nude photo of
Juan. She must have enjoyed the wild side a great deal.
Raquel
downed two chots of tequila as she and Santiago talked again about
Andres while. Santiago questioned Andres' motives for paying off
Raquel's debts. “Why do you think he would help you? Out of
guilt? Why do you want to be close to him?”
“Why
are you worried? The car belonging to Legato gets Nacho off the
hook.”
“Why
do you think I'm worried? This investigation is pointing at you! To
you not want to know that?”
“The
only thing I want to know is the truth.”
“Andres
is a suspect. Why don't you want to know that?”
“Andres
is a coward. He can't do this.”
“Didn't
he try to kiss you? Dear God –”
“You're
exaggerating. He wouldn't do this.”
“What
is it?”
“He
could have ordered someone.”
“You
know the business perfectly, right?. All the employees. Internal
operations, movements.”
“And
those cars are always there for employee use. Nacho could have used
one.”
Santiago
and Carolina continued to talk about separation. Santiago felt
rejected and that Carolina was far away from them.
“I'm
patient but I have my limits,” he said. “What do you want me to
do? What do you need?”
“For
you to understand me,” she said. “I don't know what I want.”
She ran through her list of their problems ending it with her
pregnancy and her fear. She started crying. She avoided his eyes
until the end of this when she talked about being confused, claiming
to feel disconnected from herself.
Damián
argued with Andres at the office, telling him that he has had it with
his ways, reiterating his accusations about embezzlement. Andres
tried to justify his actions by saying that the company was broke
when Damián called him into the it, then didn't give him a rightful
share when it became profitable. He claimed that Damián took credit
for everything he had done, then paraded his whore in front of
him. Damián told him “Stop interfering in my life!”
“Therefore
you stop interfering in what I do or not do. If you want to go on
hurting your family do it with a better class of woman. We have a
deal and I'm making good on it. Everything has a price and you're
paying it, cousin.”
He
walked out of Damián's office.
Federico
and Nicolás were sitting on the steps of the school building
talking. They talked briefly about Mia. Nico then pointed out an
attractive girl named Sabrina to Federico, saying she was crazy about
him. Federico looked as though he wasn't ready or truly interested.
Mia
and Raquel went to see a psychologist. The doctor tried to get Mia
to talk, also telling her she had to stop hurting herself because it
was violent and destructive. “Are you ready to stop?” is where
this went. Sheemphaized that there was no easy way to end this
habit, then told Mia that if she continued in it it would end very
badly. Therefore if she continued in therapy she had to stay away
from everything that hurts her, including friends and other people.
Later
in the bedroom Santiago tried to talk to Carolina, saying she could
not consider the possibility of not having the baby. She told him
she didn't feel well, but a little rest would help. She laid down on
the bed, turning away from him. He told her he wanted the baby,
wanted for it to be born healthy, then promised that everything would
be alright, then rose to answer the knock on the door.
Miriam
went to the office and told Damián she was worried about “everything
that's been going on. Especially your strange behavior and your
absences.”
“I
was working.”
“You've
been traveling for alleged business that isn't confirmed. Besides,
you're arguing with Andres all the time and I'm tired of that. What
happened?”
“Nothing,
Mother.”
“You
don't want to tell me?”
“I
know it looks a little strange, but that's all over.” He sat down.
“Judging
by your face it ended badly.”
“It's
alright. And I don't really want to talk about this again.
Everything's alright, OK?.”
She
hugged him and asked no more questions. She did not see his sad
face. He own still held questions.
Vicente
showed up at Carolina's house and made nice with her and Santiago
about the new baby. Santiago's cell rang; it was Augustin with a
work problem, mnamely an hysterical client. After ending the call
Santiago kissed Carolina goodbye and left. He did not realize in
that moment that Vicente was out for blood.
Raquel
told Mia that she needed to listen to the doctor and get rid of
harmful influences.
“You're
talking about Julieta, Mama. Why can't you say so directly?”
Raquel
agreed. Mia talked about Julieta having problems, etc., saying that
this was a cruel request. Raquel tried to explain why this was
necessary.
“Nicolás,
too?” Mia asked.
Vicente
pretended nice for a minute before Carolina cut to the chase, asking
whether he had spoken with Damián.
“Just
like that? You're not going to ask how I am, nothing? How badly
raised you are.”
“You
know that extortion is a crime. You could go to prison.”
“To
prison? No, never. That idiot has enough money to pay for luxuries,
including to pay for having sex with my sister.” He watched for
her reaction and when he didn't get it he baited her some more. “I
have to ask you something. That baby you're expecting, is it his?”
“Get
out of here. Get out, Vicente!”
She
opened the door, but he did not leave. He got into her face.
“I'm
not going to help you. I will move in here and take the prize. You
are in no position to make demands of me, Carolina. You have
conductedd yourself as a bad mother, a bad wife, and a bad sister.
Over all you are a bad woman and you know what the saddest part is?
This guy doesn't love you. He's using you. You're a new toy, a
prostitute –”
She
tried to shove him, but he fought back.
“Don't
you try it. Don't you try that! You will pay, Carolina. You have
just begun to pay. Is that clear?”
After
he finally left Carolina called Damián to tell him about this.
Gabriela
gave Santiago hell for for not being there to supervise his workers.
She complained about them being sloppy and leaving the kitchen dirty
at the end of the workday. Her real motive for demanding his
presence was so she could continue to make passes at him...or torment
him for his rejection. On the assumption that he did not realize
this she threatened to sue him for breach of contract if he wasn't
there daily to supervise his workers and take him for every centavo
he had.
Nico
approached Sabrina to set her up with Federico. He said Federico was
dying of love for her. She seemed very interested, so he called
Federico over and told him that Sabrina was having a problem with
math and since he was a genius at it they should make a date.
Sabrina suggested that they do this at his place and she would call
him the next day.
Damián
told Carolina that he spoke with Vicente and all was well. He
spologised, saying he respected her decision. This was after he
thought about what she said at the cabana. He said he'd give his
life for her and... more of the same hypocrisy from both about not
hurting their families. He left but not until after a long kiss
goodbye.
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Just had to go back and fill in the most perverse dialogue in the episode. This gets more insane by the minute.
Poor Nico will need a shrink, too, if this keeps going on in the same vein.
Poor Nico will need a shrink, too, if this keeps going on in the same vein.
Thank you Urban for the recap. Really the characters are getting more twisted than I could image.
I am confused. You wrote right after Nico left: "As he left his predecessor stepped out of the shadows, pounded on Alina's gate, then rang the bell. When she came out she brutally rejected him and told him to leave immediately or she would call the police." Is Nico's 'predecessor' Frederico? I may have been confused but I thought the person ringing Alina's bell was Frederico. And from your comment, did Frederico have any prior relationship with Alina? Frederico seemed smitten with Lola. So any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
I am confused. You wrote right after Nico left: "As he left his predecessor stepped out of the shadows, pounded on Alina's gate, then rang the bell. When she came out she brutally rejected him and told him to leave immediately or she would call the police." Is Nico's 'predecessor' Frederico? I may have been confused but I thought the person ringing Alina's bell was Frederico. And from your comment, did Frederico have any prior relationship with Alina? Frederico seemed smitten with Lola. So any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
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: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 2:27:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 2:27:00 AM EST
The boy at the gate wasn't Federico. I never caught the character's name and since I've never seen the actor before I can't ID the character from IMDB. Federico (who is Mia's twin) is a little younger than Nicolas who might be a little younger than this boy.
The only connexion between Alina and Federico is through two other people. Before she went to bat for Santiago she mentioned knowing Miriam's lawyer so she knew all his tricks. She walked into the police station knowing what to expect from Rueda's tactics and thus having coached Santiago in how to conduct himself and was therefore able to get Santiago off the hook for anything Miriam wanted him charged for.
I like the recent trend in novelas to have psychology professionals rather than priests. I wonder whether this is reflecting a more secular outlook in Mexican life.
The only connexion between Alina and Federico is through two other people. Before she went to bat for Santiago she mentioned knowing Miriam's lawyer so she knew all his tricks. She walked into the police station knowing what to expect from Rueda's tactics and thus having coached Santiago in how to conduct himself and was therefore able to get Santiago off the hook for anything Miriam wanted him charged for.
I like the recent trend in novelas to have psychology professionals rather than priests. I wonder whether this is reflecting a more secular outlook in Mexican life.
Although Nico is over the age of consent (15 in Mexico) Alina could be disbarred for how she got him into her bed, or -- more accurately -- on the couch. This qualifies as extortion but I'm sure Nico won't report this. The other boy might, though, out of spite.
Lola is in no position to judge her brother over this, either. Both are now involved with mentally ill adults who are in authority positions over them. Santiago doesn't know the half of what Juan is about and the revelation of Nico and his Mrs Robinson could really send him over the edge.
Lola is in no position to judge her brother over this, either. Both are now involved with mentally ill adults who are in authority positions over them. Santiago doesn't know the half of what Juan is about and the revelation of Nico and his Mrs Robinson could really send him over the edge.
Excellent title Urban. The recap was excellent.
"If he could have bottled his gall he would have been a millionaire" and "He did not realize in that moment that Vicente was out for blood" were among my favorite of many.
While it is likely nothing here should surprise, I was dismayed at Laura's lingering look at Juan. Though she obviously has no scruples in stealing information for her "news" reports, that is certainly not her only fault.
There are so many predators. Andres, Alina, Juan, Vincente. And, as Laura has preyed upon Lola with little regard for her well being or safety (in pushing the envelope with Juan), can/should we include her here?
I suspect there are evil, dark secrets in Vincente and Caro's upbringing. Why does he hate his sister with such vehemence?
Yes, Carolina is a cheater and an adulterer. But I've still not seen anything to garner the hatred that so many harbor for her.
I'm very uneasy with Raq and Santi together. Uncomfortable is not a strong enough word.
Urban, thank you.
Diana
"If he could have bottled his gall he would have been a millionaire" and "He did not realize in that moment that Vicente was out for blood" were among my favorite of many.
While it is likely nothing here should surprise, I was dismayed at Laura's lingering look at Juan. Though she obviously has no scruples in stealing information for her "news" reports, that is certainly not her only fault.
There are so many predators. Andres, Alina, Juan, Vincente. And, as Laura has preyed upon Lola with little regard for her well being or safety (in pushing the envelope with Juan), can/should we include her here?
I suspect there are evil, dark secrets in Vincente and Caro's upbringing. Why does he hate his sister with such vehemence?
Yes, Carolina is a cheater and an adulterer. But I've still not seen anything to garner the hatred that so many harbor for her.
I'm very uneasy with Raq and Santi together. Uncomfortable is not a strong enough word.
Urban, thank you.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 8:06:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 8:06:00 AM EST
Laura is definitely a predator. I seriously think she married Fernando to be able to get police info to stay ahead of her competition. He's attractive, but that was not his prime asset in her book.
As to the comments about Carolina and Vicente's childhoods, one of the things that is irritating me about novelas in recent years is the omission of backstory information about the mature characters. This series is worse than PyP for that. In both examples we have only one of the four mature characters with a living parent, but here we have three who have living contemporaries: Damian, Raquel, and Carolina. Yet we have no information about what kind of people most of their parents were.
Based on the knowledge that Damian's father started the factory but ended up bankrupt we can conclude that he was either unprepared or feckless. Miriam made one comment that points to the latter but since I don't remember it it may have been rather vague. We know that Santiago's father was a cop and was a good friend of Antonio's. Beyond these two things we know nothing about the deceased parents of any of the four. None of them have ever spoken of them.
As to the comments about Carolina and Vicente's childhoods, one of the things that is irritating me about novelas in recent years is the omission of backstory information about the mature characters. This series is worse than PyP for that. In both examples we have only one of the four mature characters with a living parent, but here we have three who have living contemporaries: Damian, Raquel, and Carolina. Yet we have no information about what kind of people most of their parents were.
Based on the knowledge that Damian's father started the factory but ended up bankrupt we can conclude that he was either unprepared or feckless. Miriam made one comment that points to the latter but since I don't remember it it may have been rather vague. We know that Santiago's father was a cop and was a good friend of Antonio's. Beyond these two things we know nothing about the deceased parents of any of the four. None of them have ever spoken of them.
Urban, Yes, I've believe we've been lamenting background information on quite a few recent TNs.
Your comment about Laura "seriously think she married Fernando to be able to get police info to stay ahead of her competition. He's attractive, but that was not his prime asset in her book" was shrewd and spot on.
Diana
Your comment about Laura "seriously think she married Fernando to be able to get police info to stay ahead of her competition. He's attractive, but that was not his prime asset in her book" was shrewd and spot on.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:01:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:01:00 AM EST
Thanks UA. A lot to digest from this episode.
I agree that it'd be useful to know more of the backgrounds of the four main characters. All of their kids, expect Fede (possibly until now), have their own unique storyline. I say Fede has a storyline now because he is either not interested in that Sabrina chick or not interested in girls in general. Him being the normal one of the four kids makes him the odd one out.
Alina and Laura are very much alike: using men to their advantage instead of the other way around. They are proving that they won't allow themselves to be manipulated by a man, Laura in particular. We know Alina and Rueda have some sort of rivalry, but why? Maybe Nico's predecessor will provide more clues.
I still don't believe Nacho is a suspect. Andres at the top of my list.
I agree that it'd be useful to know more of the backgrounds of the four main characters. All of their kids, expect Fede (possibly until now), have their own unique storyline. I say Fede has a storyline now because he is either not interested in that Sabrina chick or not interested in girls in general. Him being the normal one of the four kids makes him the odd one out.
Alina and Laura are very much alike: using men to their advantage instead of the other way around. They are proving that they won't allow themselves to be manipulated by a man, Laura in particular. We know Alina and Rueda have some sort of rivalry, but why? Maybe Nico's predecessor will provide more clues.
I still don't believe Nacho is a suspect. Andres at the top of my list.
Thanks, UA. Your recap and commentary are spot-on. Dang, this TN is chockfull of twisted people.
Sure hope Fede and this new girl Nico introduced him to hit it off. Fede could use a healthy friendship, after dealing with his sister's problems.
Even before her affair, Vicente has alluded that Caro "owes" him for leaving him behind to live the good life with Santi. My theory is that Vicente and Caro's father was a brute. Maybe Vicente got the bulk of the brutality, maybe he even protected Caro at some point.
”What do you want? Do you want me to leave the house? Do you want us to separate?”
Caro had an excellent opening to leave Santi and end his misery, but she didn’t take it.
“Are you nuts?” he asked, almost not believing his ears.
Nico, when Little Nico is back in his place, think clearly and you'll realize, yes, she's as mad as a hatter.
Laura is a disappointment. I knew all she wanted was the story, but to be turned on by crazy, violent Juan when her own husband is so much better is downright stupid.
Sure hope Fede and this new girl Nico introduced him to hit it off. Fede could use a healthy friendship, after dealing with his sister's problems.
Even before her affair, Vicente has alluded that Caro "owes" him for leaving him behind to live the good life with Santi. My theory is that Vicente and Caro's father was a brute. Maybe Vicente got the bulk of the brutality, maybe he even protected Caro at some point.
”What do you want? Do you want me to leave the house? Do you want us to separate?”
Caro had an excellent opening to leave Santi and end his misery, but she didn’t take it.
“Are you nuts?” he asked, almost not believing his ears.
Nico, when Little Nico is back in his place, think clearly and you'll realize, yes, she's as mad as a hatter.
Laura is a disappointment. I knew all she wanted was the story, but to be turned on by crazy, violent Juan when her own husband is so much better is downright stupid.
Niecie, I've speculated before that Vicente may have done prison time. His ex-wife has said he's a brute and she's afraid of him. Carolina may or may not have had a lot of contact with him since marrying Santiago. Her children aren't comfortable around Vicente. He doesn't appear to have a regular job and he lives in a shack that hillbillies would be ashamed of. We don't yet know if he is an alcoholic, which would be a comparison to Cinthia being a drug addict.
Whether Carolina's father was a violent brute or a simple working-class man, Carolina had what it took to at least improve her life. She had enough beauty to attract Santiago who had enough ambition to start his own business, even if his real ambition was derailed by her first pregnancy. Was she an unemotional mother with Lola because of that? Possibly. They must have been doing well enough when Nico was born since their house is spacious enough and is surrounded by hedges and a fence with a gate (although we haven't seen the full exterior).
We don't know how or when Carolina's parents died. She seems to have sold their house and taken all the money for it, which is what also prompts me to wonder whether Vicente was in prison or was completely disinherited for some other reason.
He is extremely resentful of whatever financial and social advantages she had, which isn't entirely about his own failure. He may be expressing some serious reverse-snobbery that I have seen in the real world. Whether their parents felt this way I don't know. We don't even know if they were still alive when she married Santiago. I'm wondering whether the writers even thought about this.
Whether Carolina's father was a violent brute or a simple working-class man, Carolina had what it took to at least improve her life. She had enough beauty to attract Santiago who had enough ambition to start his own business, even if his real ambition was derailed by her first pregnancy. Was she an unemotional mother with Lola because of that? Possibly. They must have been doing well enough when Nico was born since their house is spacious enough and is surrounded by hedges and a fence with a gate (although we haven't seen the full exterior).
We don't know how or when Carolina's parents died. She seems to have sold their house and taken all the money for it, which is what also prompts me to wonder whether Vicente was in prison or was completely disinherited for some other reason.
He is extremely resentful of whatever financial and social advantages she had, which isn't entirely about his own failure. He may be expressing some serious reverse-snobbery that I have seen in the real world. Whether their parents felt this way I don't know. We don't even know if they were still alive when she married Santiago. I'm wondering whether the writers even thought about this.
If she suicides I hope it's Juan she takes with her and not Nico. He's a good kid in a bad situation.
Right now the Becker and Alvarado children seem to hold their own in terms of pushing the storyline along.
Let’s take just the boys. Where they are in the present versus where they were in the past, make it more difficult to get a read on Frederico’s likes than for Nicolas (Nico). For example, earlier TF posted: “I say Fede has a storyline now because he is either not interested in that Sabrina chick or not interested in girls in general. Him being the normal one of the four kids makes him the odd one out.” Well all four of them are odd. But it is especially difficult to figure out Fredo given the jumble of the past versus the present. In the past he seemed to be interested in Lola, Nico’s sister; in the flashback in this episode we have Nico trying to set him up with Sabrina without much enthusiasm on his part. This might be explained because he is interested in Lola and thus not interested in anyone else. Lola does not seem to have given him much encouragement since she’s besotted with Juan. So we really do not know much about Fredo except (a) he had an interest in Lola and (b) he thinks Nico should stay away from his sister, Mia. He apparently is aware of how twisted his sister is with the self-mutilation.
Not much of a clue I suspect of his present feelings for Lola, and even perhaps, Mia.
As for Nico, well he had it for Mia until she cut him and suggested the only way a relationship would work if he joined her in the mutilation. At one point he called her ‘loco’. But now his hot ‘abuser’ Alina has made an even more crazy suggestion (order): go sleep with Mia tonight and let me know who you like better tomorrow! Nico better tell Santiago of his trouble with women since his dad can certainly give him some pointers. Actually Damian, if he ever wakes up, could give him the best advice: stay celibate.
Let’s take just the boys. Where they are in the present versus where they were in the past, make it more difficult to get a read on Frederico’s likes than for Nicolas (Nico). For example, earlier TF posted: “I say Fede has a storyline now because he is either not interested in that Sabrina chick or not interested in girls in general. Him being the normal one of the four kids makes him the odd one out.” Well all four of them are odd. But it is especially difficult to figure out Fredo given the jumble of the past versus the present. In the past he seemed to be interested in Lola, Nico’s sister; in the flashback in this episode we have Nico trying to set him up with Sabrina without much enthusiasm on his part. This might be explained because he is interested in Lola and thus not interested in anyone else. Lola does not seem to have given him much encouragement since she’s besotted with Juan. So we really do not know much about Fredo except (a) he had an interest in Lola and (b) he thinks Nico should stay away from his sister, Mia. He apparently is aware of how twisted his sister is with the self-mutilation.
Not much of a clue I suspect of his present feelings for Lola, and even perhaps, Mia.
As for Nico, well he had it for Mia until she cut him and suggested the only way a relationship would work if he joined her in the mutilation. At one point he called her ‘loco’. But now his hot ‘abuser’ Alina has made an even more crazy suggestion (order): go sleep with Mia tonight and let me know who you like better tomorrow! Nico better tell Santiago of his trouble with women since his dad can certainly give him some pointers. Actually Damian, if he ever wakes up, could give him the best advice: stay celibate.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
Urban,another good recap,of an ever sad story. Nothing comes of cheating but heartache.In this instance murder.
And all for 3 years of Rollin in the gay. I agree with vinny,I dont believe
He love her. She an exciting date. And
They dated to sex right up under their
Spouses noses. And neither one of em
Have a dam about their families. I bet
The Ol lady did it.As for somebody out
Of the ordinary, I choose her. That Ol
Girl has alot of hate in her. What if
Damian's dad did to her what he's done
To raq, tho she don't care about raq,
She just hate the women the men cheat
With. And if raw can be blamed for it
Thats kill In two birds with one stone
.It's just a what if thing I was think
in about.
Those kids are so Messed up.And the poor Child with that grownass lawyer freek, Yeah Greek.She couldbe arrested for Statutory rape or sexualabuse.Shes a nutJob.
Ok going home from work.
Thank you Urban.
And all for 3 years of Rollin in the gay. I agree with vinny,I dont believe
He love her. She an exciting date. And
They dated to sex right up under their
Spouses noses. And neither one of em
Have a dam about their families. I bet
The Ol lady did it.As for somebody out
Of the ordinary, I choose her. That Ol
Girl has alot of hate in her. What if
Damian's dad did to her what he's done
To raq, tho she don't care about raq,
She just hate the women the men cheat
With. And if raw can be blamed for it
Thats kill In two birds with one stone
.It's just a what if thing I was think
in about.
Those kids are so Messed up.And the poor Child with that grownass lawyer freek, Yeah Greek.She couldbe arrested for Statutory rape or sexualabuse.Shes a nutJob.
Ok going home from work.
Thank you Urban.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:05:00 PM EST
Anon @ 5:05. I thought I saw pleasant surprise on Fede's face when Nico told him the pretty girl was looking at him. I think Fede is shy and insecure, but smart. Smart enough to realize Lola was just teasing and not into him "that" way.
I agree that Fede is a bit shy considering his sheltered childhood that's somewhat understandable.
How much does he know about Lola getting her freak on with her gym teacher?
The ages assigned to the four "kids" indicate that none of this is stat rape by Mexican standards. If three of them were 15 in the 3 years ago and the other (Lola) 17 per this page they are all over the minimum age of consent. However, the law regarding estupro allows sexual relations with someone under 18 but above the minimum age of consent to be prosecuted under certain conditions.
This means that if Nicolas is 18 now Alina can get away with this unless Nicolas is willing to say that she extorted sex from him for representing his father.
How much does he know about Lola getting her freak on with her gym teacher?
The ages assigned to the four "kids" indicate that none of this is stat rape by Mexican standards. If three of them were 15 in the 3 years ago and the other (Lola) 17 per this page they are all over the minimum age of consent. However, the law regarding estupro allows sexual relations with someone under 18 but above the minimum age of consent to be prosecuted under certain conditions.
This means that if Nicolas is 18 now Alina can get away with this unless Nicolas is willing to say that she extorted sex from him for representing his father.
Lola is around 20 years old now, but she was in high school when she started having sex with Juan, the gym teacher.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 11:05:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 11:05:00 AM EST
He definitely could have been brought up on charges back in the day, but I'm not sure that Mexican law would allow that to happen now. At the very least the school administration would review the situation and possibly fire him. He could lose his teaching license over this.
Gabriela is another predator. Damian was her original target and now Santiago. This has to be about her trying to stick it to Raquel since she associates both men with her.
Gabriela is another predator. Damian was her original target and now Santiago. This has to be about her trying to stick it to Raquel since she associates both men with her.
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