Wednesday, February 07, 2018

Papá a toda madre Wednesday 2/7/18 Capítulo 17: You Can't Get Blood From a Turnip--OR--A Leopard Cannot Change its Spots

Valentina is sitting waiting for her mother in a hotel lobby with her suitcase all packed. She listens to her dad on her phone saying that he will come and get her but does not answer. Finally, Valentina gets up and goes to see the desk clerk and asks to call the room of Sra. Goyeneche. The desk clerk tells her that she has checked out a couple of hours ago with her companion but she did leave a note for Valentina. It says: "Forgive me, daughter. I really thought it over and you are going to be better off with your father. Kisses, Mommy." Valentina puts down the note and calls her dad.

A completely depressed Valentina is driving home with Jorge. Jorge doesn’t need to hear anything from her. The important thing is that she reconsidered and that they are going home. Jorge tells her that the next time she doesn’t understand something to just remember that whatever he does, he does for her and her brother’s own good. He adds that he does not say it often or enough, because he was never taught to do it, but she and her brother are his children and he loves them. Valentina can only cry. They are the most important things that he has.


Mauricio is putting Anifer to bed and she wants him to tell her a story. Mauricio is not quite up for that. Anifer decides that she will tell him a story so he lays his head on her stomach like a kid and listens. Once upon a time, there was a king and and his daughter. He eats something bad and he dies. Mauricio tells her not to worry about him. The king is perfect and at the height of his strength. He then apologizes for having her hide in the bathroom when the ”girl” came over to play. It was really a bad thing for him to do. He shouldn’t try to hook up with somebody at the house when she is home. Anifer does not hear that part because she is already asleep and snoring. He kisses her goodnight.

Renée is still out in the street arguing with Lupe. His movers are now just standing around watching the spectacle.. He says that she cannot even swear that she is not interested in Mauricio. She tells him that she doesn’t have to swear about anything to anybody. It is all about what he did to her neighbors. For the umpteenth time he tells her that he didn’t do anything whether she believes him or not. She says she just does not know him. He tells her to just stop imagining things. He has had enough. To him it is so clear that she really has it for Mauricio. She lives her life at his beck and call and just uses his daughter as an excuse. In the end she does everything for Mauricio. What is worse is that she doesn’t dare tell him to his face. Renée asks him if he is so sure that she is in love with another, why does he want to live with her? He cannot believe she is asking him that. From high school on, he has just been waiting for her to pay attention to him. Now that they are together and going to the USA, he is supposed to put her on a silver platter so any old Don Juan can take advantage of her. Renée cannot believe what she is hearing. Lupe tries to explain he is there to take care of her and so absolutely nobody takes what is his. The movers like that line but Renée doesn’t. Renée has to respond to that because he thinks that she is his prize or his trophy and if he is saying what she thinks he is saying. He interrupts her to make it clear. He wants her to understand that she has always been the love of his life and for that reason he is going to defend her and protect her from womanizers like her boss whether she likes it or not. Lupe asks why does she need him to defend her. Is she stupid or what? Of course not. He never said that. What he wants her to get straight in her pretty little head is that he is the only man who really loves her, that can protect her and thanks to him she can do her master’s studies in the USA. Can she understand that? No, she cannot. She understands him now less than ever. Fortunately for her, she has discovered that he is not the person that she thought he was. The movers interrupt the fight by asking if the mattress goes in or stays outside. They also want to know about the really heavy desk. Is it going or staying? Renée tells them to put it all back in the truck. Lupe tells them no and says if she doesn’t want him to move in with her today he can come back another time. Renée makes it clear that she does not want to go out with him, be his friend or anything. They are over.

Samuel is knocking at Valentina's bedroom door but she is not answering. Jorge tells him to leave his sister alone. Samuel is upset because nobody tells him anything about what is going on. Jorge will tell him later. Samuel wants to know what is going on right now with his mother. He knows that Valentina saw her. Jorge explains that it is all a misunderstanding. He sends Samuel to his room to sleep. Samuel is sick of being treated like a little kid. Jorge reminds him he still is a little kid.

The argument in the street continues as the movers have packed up the truck. Lupe is complaining that Renée just can’t tell him to get lost like that. She needs to remember everything that he has done for her and now she is treating him like this. Renée thinks this is just the right time to end things peacefully. Lupe reminds her that she promised her mother that she was going to give him a chance to court her. Renée says that she never promised her mother any such thing. Their relationship just hasn’t worked. This whole thing just does not make sense. It makes sense to Lupe and she is going to realize that when she is more alone than ever. She will have lost the support of the only man that can make her happy and she does not even realize that. Her mother would just up and die again out of shame if she saw how foolish her daughter was acting and how selfish and inconsiderate she was. She only thinks of herself. Mauricio comes out of his house and is attracted to Lupe’s shouting.

Renée turns to leave when Lupe grabs her by the arm and swings her back around. She tells him to let her go. He insists that she is going to stay and listen to what he has to say. She insists that she is not going to listen to his silliness. She has told him everything that she has to say. When Lupe grabs Renée a second time, Mauricio makes the time-out sign and decides he has to step in. He separates them and tells Lupe to take his hands off of Renée because that is not what you do to ladies. Lupe asks if Mauricio wants him to split his face in half. Mauricio doesn’t but the real question is if Renée is going to be the one to do it because if he doesn’t have a scalpel, it is going to really be difficult. Renée thanks Mauricio and tries to get them both to calm down. Lupe calls her pathetic if she thinks thinks “little junior” is interested in her. He is interested in her backside and nothing else. Mauricio takes exception with that and says he is asking for a “fist taco”. He punches Lupe in the face and knocks him on his butt. As Mauricio is rubbing his fist, Lupe arises and the fight is on. Renée cannot break it up. The movers are enjoying the show and placing bets with each other. Soon, Jorge, Nerón, Toño and Verónica have all run out of their houses to see what is going on. Nerón and Jorge break them up. Verónica attends to Renée. Before you know it, Nerón has to be held back from Lupe as he wants to beat him up because he is insulting his goddaughter Renée. Lupe tells Mauricio that for getting involved in something that was not his business, Renée will treat him worse than that guy she left at the altar. Lupe then tells Renée that she better hold on because with this guy she is going to be paid back for not appreciating those who really loved her,like him and that guy Alejandro that she left at the altar. Lupe finally wrestles himself free and leaves with the movers. Renée checks with Nerón and Mauricio that they are okay. All that Verónica can say is that it was a horror show and they were like dogs.

At Jorge's the next morning, Valentina has fixed them all breakfast. She got up early to do it. Her brother is taking a bath so she wants to take advantage of that to talk to her dad alone. She apologizes for everything she did. She never will lie to him again. He can tell that she is talking from her heart. She also tells him that whenever she has “escaped” she has never done anything bad. She has had a little bit of alcohol to drink but she has never gotten drunk. Jorge says he believes her and thank her for telling him. He asks why she called her mom and what was she looking for from her. Valentina admits that he is just too controlling but she knows that he really loves her, not like that witch of a mother she has and she is a liar. She also now thinks that her mother made up all of that stuff about Yuriria. Jorge says that that is an adult subject not to be discussed with her. She understands. He also says that eventhough he and her mother are fighting, he does not want her talking anout her mother like she was. Valentina promises him not to give him any problems. Jorge thanks God.

Mauricio is at a meeting of the board where he finds out that they are only interested in the chicken prototype. It has a lot of potential or “eggs” jokes Mauricio. They all have a good laugh with the double entendre joke. Mauricio is surprised they are not interested in any of the edgier ideas since the chicken has already been out on the market. Falcón feels that with the right development and marketing the ”chicken 2.0” can “get flying” again. Mauricio accuses him of lying when it comes to allowing him to be in charge of the creative decision making. Falcón reminds him that they want successes, a benefit, sales, so what is he to do? This is how things work. Mauricio should not be offended but Mauricio is not on the patio of his house playing with his little designs. Mauricio agrees it is not his patio but it is his house, the legacy of his family and they are all just guests. He takes his chicken prototype and leaves the room.

Mauricio leaves the office to share his tale of woe of how they all chose the chicken to be developed with Gladys. Fabián joins them and says that at least they are choosing one of his projects to succeed. Mauricio wants to put out something new that wasn’t pretty much a failure already. Mauricio suddenly has lots of ideas and thinks that Falcón should try something new or let them do it. Maybe they could work with other companies. Fabián tells him he knows nothing about royalties and it could be a real mess. Whatever the case, Mauricio is going to talk to their lawyers. Mauricio says they need to be signed up for the next toy show. He has to know where and when it is. Mauricio is clearly excited, Fabián to so much. Gladys reminds him that the photo shoot for the magazine “Estelares” (The Stellar One’s) is for today and it cannot be postponed. They publish tomorrow. Faced with the lack of enthusiasm from Fabián and Gladys, Mauricio asks Anifer what she thinks. If they do the photo shoot and talks at the toy show Maybe somebody will want their new projects. That is what Mauricio wants to hear.

Mauricio sends Anifer off with Gladys as they both audibly moan about being stuck with the other. Fabián asks Mauricio if he fought for Renée because he really likes her. Not at all. There wasn’t even a kiss on the cheek. What is urgent is that he get Anifer into school. She cannot be at work with him all day long.

Renée shows up at a restaurant to share a meal with Lupe. He is in a good mood and invited her to come. He is surprised that she didn’t stand him up after last night. In spite of everything, she wants to end things on a good note with him. She was thinking about last night and thinks she owes him an apology. He asks if it would be for breaking up with him. No, it is because she never should have started anything with him in the first place. It is no excuse but with the death of her mother, he consoled her, he talked to her and that is where she got confused. He always thought that she would have been happy to end up together. Beyond what happened between them, she thinks he is an honorable man and it is a shame things ended up like they did between them. What he can assure her is that he always wanted the best for her and her mother. For that reason, Renée is going to always be grateful for how he supported them and tried to help her mom. The hard truth of the matter is that they were never meant to be a couple. It is not for them. Lupe’s smile disappears. He says okay and it is good that she has clarified the situation for him. He only wanted her to know that he is going ahead with his plans for his internship. It is a good opportunity for him. Renée is very happy for him. She congratulates him. As he gets up and throws some bills on the table, he tells her that he is going to be traveling soon, so he would like her to return the 50,000 pesos ($2,665) he loaned her for her mother’s funeral ASAP. Renée is surprised and calls him back to talk to him but he has left. She wasn’t expecting to have to pay back the money so sooN.

Verónica calls Toño to tell him she has a meeting and will be home late. They are both at work. He tells her to not let them take advantage of her or she won’t be able to deal with the pace. She is just happy to be able to start paying a bit over the min um payment on their credit cards. She is wondering if his job at the publishing house is permanent or temporary. Toño still does not know. She has to go. She has to prepare for a meeting. He has to go, too. He has a bunch of things he has to get done. He’ll see her later. He loves her. He puts his head down on his desk. After hearing him on the phone, one of his co-workes comes over to make fun of Toño talking to his wife. Was his wife checking on him? Toño tells him that she doesn’t do those things. She is a real woman like they don’t make anymore. She lives her life taking care of him, the house and his children. Toño then thinks back to the same scene of his father from the past but then focuses on a new scene where his mother is telling him he is the handsomest novio ever and if Verónica is the daughter-in-law she expects, they are all going to be very happy. However, if Verónica doesn’t look after him as God demands, she is going to find out how it is to have a bad mother-in-law.

Verónica starts doing some research on line on Toño's new company when the secretary comes in and says that the boss needs to talk to her. It is something serious. Verónica is worried.

Pablo shows Nerón the envelope from the last letter he got from his father and they look at the cancelled stamp. Nerón concludes that his father must be working where the stamp was cancelled so it is a good start. Pablo asks if Nerón thinks that he could find him. Before he can answer, Flor arrives with Milady. Nerón tells her there hasn’t been much work. Talking about work, Flor is all excited. She got a call from an agency for an audition for a photo shoot she knows absolutely nothing about. Nerón sends Pablo off to work so he can talk alone with her. He is not happy about her knowing nothing about the job. She is just happy that she can earn something so she can start fixing up the house and having some money for expenses.

Back at the office, Mauricio is with Anifer as he is searching for the International Toy Show. Anifer tells him that she is happier to be with him than Gladys. He finds out it is in Miami. The bad thing is that it is taking place very soon. He has to go no matter what. No, Anifer cannot come. She has to go to school and have anormal life for a little girl. She reminds him that he promised that he was not going to leave her alone again. He must have forgotten already. Mauricio says no. He will find someone to stay with her. She needs to have some confidence in him. It is only for three days. Gladys comes in to announce that Mauricio has a visitor but the guards won’t let the person in if Mauricio does not approve. He looks puzzled.

Fabián talks to Jorge in his office about legal information they need if Logatoys decides to associate with other compamies in toy production. They need it right away. Jorge asks Fabián if he has any information on Anifer’s mother like when, where and how she died. They are going to need that information for Mauricio to give her his last name. Fabián looks like he has no idea when Jorge’s phone rings. He has to answer and Fabián leaves reminding him he needs the legal info ASAP.

Jorge answers his phone. It is Yuriria. (We see a photo of her and two children) She apologizes for not getting back to him sooner. She did call but he never answered her message. She didn’t want to push it. He assures her he will always call her back when he can. He asks how she is. She says she is fine. Does she want the money he sends her earlier? He can arrange it. No, she can wait until the first of the month. She wants him to tell her why he called her. (She sounds fine but we see that she is very ill.)

Renée has stopped by Mauricio's office to thank him for coming to her aid her last night. It is clearly difficult for her to be there and she is reluctant to talk to him at first. Mauricio tells her that he has no idea about what the first guy did to deserve to be left at the altar but this loser would cause her to be a runaway bride. She tells him that it really is not any of his business but Lupe is now history. She does not want to talk to him or see him again. Mauricio agrees because of how aggressive he is but also about his illusions. How could he ever believe that she and he(Mauricio) had something going? They both scoff at that idea and go on and on about why they would never/could never be together. Renée stops the craziness and says she is also there because she needs to work. If they are still re-hiring, she is willing to work for less pay and less hours. She excuses herself and turns to leave when Mauricio says he thinks he has something for her but not at the company. It would be involved in something that is of high interest to both of them. Does she want to live at his house with Anifer and him? She can rent her house and make some money and help him with Anifer. She is adamant about wanting to design and manufacture toys. She does not want to wash clothes and make food for him. He knows and he would be happy to offer her a job ay the company but he is no longer the decision maker at there. Now a council is running things and has the final say. Anyway, he is short of cash. It would only be temporary until this crisis passes. She knows how to cook, right, and not make the kind of sandwiches he is allergic to. She will have to think about it. He thinks it would be good for her to live with Anifer and save on expenses. She would have time to work on her master’s. She wants to know how he knows about that. He shows her the university pamphlet she dropped and reminds her that she wanted a loan for her master’s when she came for her interview. She even had a payback plan for loan. She understands but still is not happy with him sticking his nose in her business. Mauricio agrees he is nosy but with good intentions. Renée reminds him that there are people who are specialists in caring for children. Mauricio asks who is he going to trust after what happened with the nun. He would only leave Anifer with somebody who he had total confidence in and who she liked a lot. Renée agrees that she would do it ...for Anifer but she cannot give him an answer right here on the spot. Mauricio explains that he is under a time constraint since he has to go out of the country very soon and he cannot leave Anifer alone. He really needs an answer now. He asks her to say yes. It won’t cost her anything.

Jorge continues talking to Yuriria. He called her because he wants to see her and tell her a lot of things. The most important thing is that he needs her in his life. She does not want to get involved in his marriage. A long time ago they decided to leave things as they were. He explains that he and Dulce are separated and are in the process of getting a divorce. Yuriria says that doesn’t change what they have between them. Are they okay? Jorge tells her that she does not know how much he misses her. She has no idea how much he needs a woman in his life and that woman is her. Suddenly she has to go and says if he could deposit the money now that would be just great if it is not too much of a bother. Jorge does not know what to make of her. Is that all she is going to say? He was expecting something more from her. She cuts it short by wishing him a good day and hangs up.

Back at Mauricio's office He asks Renée if she is going to think about it there or get back to him later. Renée was at first offended by his offer but is impressed that he has so much confidence in her. Mauricio quickly explains that that is Anifer’s doing. Renée is also quick to agree. Mauricio says eventhough they can barely put up with each other, Anifer is more important than they are. Renée likes that he is putting Anifer before himself. He is learning how to be a good father. Mauricio says it is the least that he could do. Renée is still not sure because of wanting to get her master’s degree. Mauricio promises her money in the future from Logatoys (payment for her master’s and a subsequent job from which her tuition could be deducted) which he is sure will arise from the ashes. Heck, he is going to a toy show and he is going to be ”John Travolta” (he does his Travolta imitation so he probably means “impressive”.) She does not know what to do because it isn’t only the master’s but she has a lot of other debts. . . Gladys comes in and interrupts telling Mauricio it is time for the photo shoot.

Nerón is still at the garage talking to Pablo. He asks to see Pablo’s envelope from his dad. Nerón says that he is going to show it sometime to his goddaughter Renée who is really good on the internet and maybe she can help them. Pablo thanks him and tells him he must be the best dad ever. He should have more kids so Milady has a sibling. Nerón is not too sure about that but then describes his grown sons as half wits but good boys. He supported them all by working hard and his wife Carmelita seeing to them. Nerón then thinks back to his life when his boys were young and sought his attention. He missed a lot of time with his sons because of all of the hours he put in at Logatoys and how it tired him out. His wife Carmelita had to pick up the slack. Nerón tells Pablo that he hasn’t seen his sons in a while. They are probably really angry with him. Pablo suggests that he call them. Nerón is not too sure since he insists they must still be angry.

We see the preparation for the photo shoot. Mauricio helps Anifer with her expressions since she has never taken photos before.

Flor and Milady are outside of a building standing in line waiting to audition for the photo shoot job. A guy comes out and calls her to come inside. She is happy she is being called so soon. She carries Milady up the stairs to the entrance. The guy asks her if she has worked nude before. He shows her an example photo. She is suddenly concerned if the photos are going to be kept private; that they will be classy and artistic. He assures her of all those things. She decides if the Angel of Independence and Diana the Huntress can be naked and nobody says anything, why not her?She has the guy carry Milady’s stroller up the stairs.

The Logatoy photo shoot is on with Mauricio and Anifer. They play around like two kids.

Mauricio talks to Fabián who doesn’t understand why they took the photos. Mauricio insists that they have to have a good image especially after what Renée did with the press. Fabián now remembers what his favorite neighbor did. Mauricio thinks the photos will make an good impression in the article with the ladies as he will be the “#1 super desirable hot daddy”. Fabián says some things never change. He asks if Mauricio is still going to the toy show. He tells Mauricio that he had better consult with Falcón because the trip won’t pay for itself.

Verónica talks to her boss. It turns out that she is overqualified for her present posiion. She never should have been hired as an engineer. From today on, she is the Director of Innovation and Systems. . . if she wants the job.
















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I am so glad that Lupe has been given the heave ho. When he grabbed Renée and yanked her around, she should have punched him in the head. Good riddance!.

Hmmm. . . Jorge has been sending money monthly to Yuriria. Is it for the kids in the photo?

Flor just makes me laugh.

Interesting offer for Renée. It sure could help solve her problems.

That is all for now.
 

Jarifa, excellent recap! I was wondering how you would handle all that jibberish between May and Renee but you did not disappoint.

Some quick comments: I’m SO glad Renée got rid of the barnacle but instead of hitting him on the head as you suggested Jarifa, I would have liked to see her kick him where it hurts! What a weasel to he is for telling Renée to psy him back ASAP!

Fabián is getting more suspicious. He completely avoided giving Jorge any info on Anifer’s mother by asking why that info was needed. Clearly, he is hiding something.

JudyB, you were spot on when you said that Tia Chata was a Yuriria! Jarifa, that picture must have been shown for a specific reason, unless it will have the fate of the shoebox! I would think that the only reason a man would send a woman ( whom he had an affair with) money would be for child support???? But Jorge is so righteous...could that really be?

Interesting proposition Mau made to Renée...and he came up with it all in his own...the man just might have a brain!
 

‘Scuse the typos...I’m sure you know what I meant :-)
 

Excellent Jarifa. These people a hundred and fifty miles an hour talking at the same time ! !
Right Jarifa and RGV, she scraped that barnacle off her pristine white hull soon enough.

FWIW: Elon Musk putting one of his Tesla cars into orbit is going to be small shit compared to the way Neuron will go into orbit if the nude pictures ever (of course they have to...) surface.

A fun, happy episode. I am still impressed with how they get something going, then dispense with it and move on rather than dragging it out for seven hundred fifty three and a half episodes.

I am gaining a new appreciation for Jorge too. He's kinda like Mau and Ani's car. Not much to look at and what it does it doesn't do with a flourish, but it plods along and gets it done. Most things have either a dog or car corollary.
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Thanks, Jarifa, for an excellent summary of tonight's action. I wasn't going to watch this TN, but am getting into it. So happy that Renee dismissed Lupe and especially enjoyed the truck drivers'/movers' reaction to the fight!

Of course the nude photos will be tasteful, artistic, and private! (cough, cough). Ha!

Also pleased that Jorge is on better terms with Valentina. He's beginning to see the need for communication.
 

Thank you Jarifa, things were moving quickly today and thanks for retelling it the way you did. I usually have to watch it a 2nd time to catch everything. I enjoyed Renee giving Lupe the boot too. I guess Dulce showed her true colors to her daughter. I don't understand mothers like that who leave their children to go off with another man. Wild horses, lions, tigers, bears, whatever, could never have made me leave my children to run off with another man. Dulce built up Valentina just to let her straight down. I think Jorge is a good father and wants to do the right thing. Is Yuriria his first wife or what? I recognized her, that was Marisol del Olmo, who played "Juana" in Enamorandome de Ramon. It looks like this character is very ill with cancer. That's the only reason I can think of why she has no hair. Must be going through some very strong chemo.

Oh, oh for Flor. Neron is not going to like it one bit when he finds out about the nude photos. This will get very interesting.
 

Wow! Sounds like this was an exciting episode. Lots of excitement here in Buckeye Land too as our expected to be near the last place team continues to exceed expectations and beat top-ranked Purdue last night. Yeah, I know y'all don't care but I just had to gush a little.

Jarifa, thanks for this snappy recap. Plenty of sizzle and pop. I will look forward to watching it later, and I too have learned that it helps to watch it twice because the dialogue flies by so fast. (And also my brain is slowing down.)

I was wondering how a house was going to be freed up for our gay couple and now I see, our handsome policeman and our sweet Pablo will be renting soon I imagine.

I don't think Jorge is supporting "una casa chica". I'm assuming those are another man's children, but he left and Jorge, out of concern and friendship, is helping out a desperate former love. He is indeed a "cuadrado" but he is learning. He is responsible and has integrity, as far as I can see.

I'm not a Lupe fan, but actually, given that he's been dumped, I can understand him wanting his funeral money back ASAP. Being hurt and angry brings out the worst in all of us. And we're all capable of being nasty and selfish under the right circumstances.

Will look forward to watching this later. Twice. And re-watching last night's basketball game too. Woo-hoo.
 

Goooood Morning everyone. I was thinking, JudyB, about Loopy and the funeral money. Had Stoopy Loopy not just popped up and paid that, the funeral entity would have just had to set Renee up on an installment plan or something. NOW he has her by the short hairs demanding his money back. I agree, you can't blame him for asking for it back. Tongue in cheek, I assume he got some kind of promissory note from her and had it notarized, otherwise she could tell him, "What Loan, Dogbreath?" What's he going to do, tell her MAMA, who he mentions every breath?

Dulce, Dulce, Dulce, you give lawyers a bad name. Well, on second thought....Anyhow, she probably taught Miss Val an important, painful, lesson which she will not forget. and has helped her to see the diamond in the rough that her Father is. There is no denying that he has the best of intentions, he is just not very good at implementing them.

RGV no pigtails here. NO Hair !
 

RGV I just reread your observations about Fabian last night, and you are right. He has become pretty condescending and sometimes almost antagonistic with Mau and Anifer lately. It is as though he has been that way all along, but kept it buttoned up, but now that Mau can not fire him, his cloak of nicety is falling away. Still no socks, Mua either, at the photo shoot.

I wonder how his over the top clowning for the camera will go over when the photos are published. A camera can be your friend, or your worst enemy.
 

Cynthia, Yuriria is an old college friend of Dulce and Jorge. He went out with her before Dulce.

JudyB, I understand your excitement about your team. It is such fun when you have a team you can really root for. Alas, my Bears and Bulls have a loooong way to recoup what they once had . . .

Anyway, I think that Yuriria’ s kids do belong to Jorge and he is not as squeaky clean as he would want everyone to believe. fact that she might be as ill as she looks, could set him up for some unexpected challenges.

I always love the barnacle symbolism. Too funny but true. Barnacles on the ship of life or ship of fools????

RgvChick, ITA that a kick to the nether regions would have been most appropriate. I guess they had to give Mauricio a reason to rescue her. Awwwww!

Kirby, I totally agree about the pacing of this novela. MMTF was similarly paced. It is such a relief to have plots that are resolved quickly. It sure helps keep me interested.

La Paloma, it is so good to see you on the patio. I wonder how long it is until Nerón sees the photos and how he will become aware of them..
 

Thank you , Jarifa. I liked your title. One of Hubba's favorite sayings is , " A tiger does not change its stripes."

Poor Marisol has been getting some grin characters to play. I keep thinking about the sassy girl she played in PAsion. It will be hard for me to which her because one of my best friends has been battling stage 4 lung cancer fir the last two years. I watch telenovelas to escape reality.

Judy...congratulations on your team. Big parade in PHilly today. I am not going. Ice everywhere 20 degrees. Two hour school delay.
 

Jarifa, just marvelous. You are the consummate, exceptional recapper.

I was so excited as much progress seemed to be made last night!

"He adds that he does not say it often or enough, because he was never taught to do it, but she and her brother are his children and he loves them...They are the most important things that he has" was music to my ears.

What could put things more piercingly in perspective than a mother leaving her child. A painful, powerful lesson. I am glad Jorge finally spoke up and said all the right things. Lots more needed for this fractured family to mend, but they are on their way. "Wild horses, lions, tigers, bears, whatever, could never have made me leave my children to run off with another man". Cynthia, my mother always used to say some similar sentiments to us, her children. And I know she meant it.

Loved the “fist taco”. "He punches Lupe in the face and knocks him on his butt". As well he should. His nastiness with Renee proved she did the right thing. Finally.
"They are over". Indeed.

The highlights for me were Milady and anything Anifer. She is s aweetheart and a true talent.

Flor posing nude? I'm sure nothing will go wrong with that. Sigh.

"Samuel is sick of being treated like a little kid. Jorge reminds him he still is a little kid" made me smile.

Happy to see Marisol but certainly not in her current character's state. I do believe Jorge is helping her out of kindness only and that her children are not his. As you put it perfectly Judy "He is responsible and has integrity, as far as I can see".

"Fabián is getting more suspicious. He completely avoided giving Jorge any info on Anifer’s mother by asking why that info was needed. Clearly, he is hiding something" - very astute RgvChick. Totally agree. "cloak of nicety" was great Kirby.

Glad to see Renee and Mau will be working together, for Anifer's sake. I think there are some fun dynamics ahead!

Jarifa, this was fantastic. Thank you!

Diana
 

Susanlynn, I, too, will be FF’ing through any serious medical problems in this novela as I do in all. The ubiquitous ‘life-threatening illness” plot is one thing that spoils so many novelas for me. I have witnessed too much suffering in real life to want to see it reinacted on the screen.
 

So what are our mysteries? Any others?

The shoebox.

Renée’s father.

Fabián

Falcón and crew

María, Anifer’s mother

Yuriria and her children
 

Jarifa - Thank you for your recap! I hope there will be time to watch this one today.

Reading about Lupe's behavior last night, this guy is in early stages of becoming a domestic violence perpetrator. Let's hope he leaves, and leaves for good. Fingers crossed!!!

Flor's nudie pics will likely end up on the intertubes.

How do we know Hot Cop and Pablo are a couple? Did I miss something in watching, or reading the recaps?
Crazy enough week here and now our dog has to see a specialist to figure out her health issue -- just what needed on top of everything else .... NOT!!! Valgame Dios!!!

Now to go play games with Captcha and post this .... ~sigh~
 

Good Morning. Nice to see the patio is rockin' once again!

Kirby, “I am gaining a new appreciation for Jorge too. He's kinda like Mau and Ani's car. Not much to look at and what it does it doesn't do with a flourish, but it plods along and gets it done.” AND “Dulce, Dulce, Dulce, you give lawyers a bad name...Anyhow, she probably taught Miss Val an important, painful, lesson which she will not forget and has helped her to see the diamond in the rough that her Father is. There is no denying that he has the best of intentions, he is just not very good at implementing them.” Jorge is indeed a diamond in the rough and he’s getting smoothed out in a very quick and grating manner.

Cynthia, “Is Yuriria his first wife or what? …It looks like this character is very ill with cancer. That's the only reason I can think of why she has no hair. Must be going through some very strong chemo.” Jarifa is correct in saying that they were college friends and I too am at the “Jorge’s Kids” table. It just seems a little too much if they weren’t his kids and he was sending them money on a regular basis. OTOH, we do have those heroes who are selfless and quite generous. It doesn’t seem like Jorge knows about Yuriria’s illness, otherwise he would have asked specific questions about it. It sure does look like cancer and I echo Susy’s and Jarifa’s sentiments. My mom who lived with me died of cancer so I saw it day in/day out…not an easy thing to experience…for anyone.

JudyB, congrats on your team’s victory. One thing I luuurve about this patio is that we can share our personal joys, disappointments, hardships, etc. with very caring friends…makes for much better conversations :-)

Jarifa, another “mystery” for me is that pic of Mau’s and Fabian’s fathers…and Mau’s comment that he wished he had a dad like Fabian’s.

Doris, "How do we know Hot Cop and Pablo are a couple?" We really don't know that hot cop and Pablo are or will be a couple. The assumption is being made (I think) because of some of the looks they have given each other. I don't think they'll end up together though; I think hot cop's mate will be someone else. Oh, I know why I'm a doubting Tomas...the opening credits show Hot Cop with someone else...and I remember saying it was going to be "Tomas" from Doble Vida!

 

Thank you so much, Jarifa! I especially appreciate the details on the Renee-Mauricio-Lupe fight, Lupe's kick to the curve, and Renee and Mauricio's (first?) mildly civil chat.

ITA, about Renee kicking Lupe to the curve. Lupe is becoming increasingly dangerous and, yes, might be a physical danger to Renee in the future if they lived together. He's loved her for too long, had her on a pedestal for too long, and now to watch her slip away is too much for him. I hope he goes quietly into the night and that is the end of that.

As for Neron, I hope he reaches out to his adult children and mend the fences. Glad to see that he has Pablo around to help him see the error of his ways. He is going to blow a gasket when he sees those photos of Flor because we all know they are not going to be tasteful or private.

I see Rodrigo renting Renee's place as well but there has been no indication that he is Pablo's boyfriend or they are a couple. If anything, Pablo is afraid that he will figure out he's illegal so he will stay away as much as possible.

Poor Marisol, will we ever see that spark again? She's too good an actress for these "guest stars" and "Juana" roles. I hope she survives w.e. she has and becomes part of the regular cast. I don't know if I missed it, but are those kids in the picture with her, Jorge's kids? Oh boy, if she dies, and they are his kids, will Jorge survive 4 at the same time?
 

Doris, I do hope your doggie isn't seriously ill. Good luck at the specialist.

La Paloma, ever since I first saw your avatar on the MMTF patio, I've been wanting to comment on how CUTE your little doggie is! So adorable!
 

Doris:
 

Thanks, Kirby! I was looking for that pic!
 

Beat you and it is HotCop & Pablo I hopeo that is not considered a spoiler.
If so, I hope Susy will let me sample her Lady Doritos.
I already took it back and put up another bird.
 

Alfredo: Blow a gasket is too funny. Yep he is going to require something more than a can of 'Fix-a-Flat' in a can when those show up on a poster somewhere.
 

Wow I'm always so late to the party--tons of great comments today. Thanks Jarifa!!

Not much to add but my favorite part was the movers sitting in the truck eating while Renee and Lupe fought. They were enjoying the show. Then when Mau came out and they started to bet on the fight---hilarious!

If those kids are Jorge's then he has some big time explaining to do. Why didn't he marry Yuri instead of Dulce? Did Dulce know and also knew about him sending money to her?

Felt bad for Val but Dulce did the right thing in not taking her to NY. I feel bad for Sammy though because he seemed to be really close to his mom and he hasn't heard from her. I mean he even mentioned earlier about how she hugged him. Jorge hasn't hugged or kissed his kids once. Pretty words are not enough.

Flor's "artistic" desnuda photos will make Neron go crazy!
 

Take a close look, Kirby. Are you a betting man? :-)
 

doris, I'm so sorry to read that your fur baby has to see a specialist. Will say a prayer...It's such a terrible feeling as they are so dependent on you and of course you want to do everything to make them better.

Susanlynn and Alfredo, I also miss the strong character Marisol played in Pasion. She and Alberto Estrella (Mario I believe) were fiery and engrossing.

Diana
 

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Hey, is anyone else getting Blogger's "Whoops, that's an error" page occasionally when coming here? It just started with me yesterday and happened a few times today already.
 

Kirby, I've been getting it the last couple of days.
 

Kirby, I've been getting that " "Whoops, that's an error" page since at least a week ago...it's aggravating because I refresh the page and it doesn't help at all. I have to go out completely from the site and come back in.
 

RGV you are right. That is NOT Pablo. Although without his glasses he looks a lot like him.
Rats ! I've already been wrong twice this year now.!

Carvivlie: "Flor's "artistic" desnuda photos will make Neron go crazy!" Too Funny. I think we all agree this is going to be like watching a slo-mo trainwreck rerun where nobody gets hurt.
 

Well it seems like a week...it could be the past 3-4 days.
 

Kirby, I just started getting it today. I'm glad you posted, I thought it might be something my IT department was doing!

Diana
 

I started getting the whoops message yesterday.I blamed this @*#% tablet !!!
 

Nope, I think Blogger is getting gummed up. It happened on my big Dell Optiplex desk computer and again on my Fone.
 

Chickie.so sorry to hear about your mother. I helped care for my dad who suffered for two years with neuropathy. He died a few days after my older daughter started college...double wammy. I lost a !of of weight that year..just could not eat much. My friend has been through so many procedures. She is always on my mind, so I do not want to see this character as a reminder.

Doris..hope that you pup gets help.

In honor of Renee finally seeing Lupe's possessiveness and not letting him move in, let's all listen to Lesley Gore's " You Don't Own Me."
 

Maybe Blogger is saving up it's energy for the onslaught we will unleash when Flor's pictures (WW3) surface.
 

Susy, and Loopy is sitting in his car listening to Dion's 'Runaround Sue', in his mind.
 

Kirby..I saw Dion in concert a few years ago. He was fantastic. I think that we have tickets for a spring concert.
 

Good Songs, Susy and Kirby! Another good one for Loopy would be Grenade by Bruno Mars
 

Chickie...I love Bruno Mars !!!!
 

Diana, it sure sounds like Renée will be moving in. ITA sbout perfect for more hijincks.

doris, yup, when Lupe spun Renée around it really raised a red flag like ad in “abuser” in training.

RgvChick, I will add Mauricio and Fabiân’s fathers to the mystery list,

Alfredo, I hope we find out soon if those kids in the photo are Jorge’s. If they are, what will he tell Samuel and Valentina?

Kirby, I started getting the “broken” message yesterday about noon.
 

Sorry for typos but I am out and about.
 

Me too, Susy. Did you see his concert on TV a couple of weeks ago? It was really good. I remember when I first mentioned Bruno Mars to one of my much younger subordinates at my office. She turned to me and asked. "You know who Bruno Mars is?" My look was worse than Anifer's when Falcon criticized the childish ideas. The subordinate quickly apologized. LOL
 

So if Yuriria is an old girlfriend of Jorge's then he had kids with her before marrying Dulce? He seems too uptight to have carried on an affair while being married to Dulce, so I am going to assume his kids with Yuriria are older than Samuel and Valentina. My guess is that she will die and those kids will have to come live with Jorge, further complicating his life.

Oh and I forgot the end of the show...I thought for sure Veronica was going to be fired or laid off, but she got a promotion! How cool!
 

It always makes me laugh when younger people think the older set are totally ignorant of current pop culture. Love Bruno Mars, too.
 

Cynthia, I wonder how Toño is going to react when he finds out. Should be interesting.
 

Cynthia, thanks for bringing up that promotion, I completely forgot about it...yes, it is super cool for Veronica! Wouldn't it be something if Tono would get her current position and she would be his boss? That would be even better!!
 

I like that!
 

Thanks. He is in his car because he let his apartment go. So until one is available he is sleeping in his car, or maybe in that truck, as there is nowhere to put his stuff. Ha Hee Haaa.

Grenade would work too.
 

Omg, RGV!!!! Grenade is perfect! Lupe would do anything for Renee, inclyding locking her up and throwing away the key "for her own good" of course. I hate that he even brought up Catalina. No, dude, no, don't use a person's dead mother as a point in your favor. That's skeezy.

I was esctatic Veronica received the promotion as well. IKt seems she's more qualified than Tono. Those kids must be good if he convinced her to work part time when she could be the sole breadwinner and more.


 

Jarifa, thank you for a great recap, you cleared up several things for me.

Great comments today. I, too, have been getting that "Oops!" message.

When I first saw Marisol as Yuriria I didn't recognize her at all. When I heard her speak I knew the voice but it took me a bit to connect the voice and the face. It looks like Jorge may not know she is sick...
 

Nooooo RGV it would not be even better. OK for us, but for therm, she luuuuurves that jerk for some reason and his slovenlyness would probably wind up costing her (and him, except we don't give a shit) their jobs.


 

Thanks, Jarifa, Alfredo, Rgv Chick, and Cynthia. I'm still trying to catch up and your recaps are simply fabulous.

Yay, Lupe got the hook! He paid for the funeral without asking Renee first. Seen this a zillion times on Judge Judy. Renee can claim it was a gift, so there. Renee's got too much integrity for that, but Lupe demanding payment asap is just tacky.

Jorge with outside kids? I can see him hiding one outside kid from his college days. But two sets of two kids seems a stretch for this stuffed shirt. Leading a double life like his dad? Why did he marry Dulce in the first place when he loved Yuriria? Yuriria seems too ill to work right now. Is Jorge her only source of income? Valentina asked one day, since both her parents are lawyers, why they don't have more money. Like her, I have nothing but questions.

Dulce didn't even leave Valentina a parting gift like an inscribed necklace or charm bracelet to remember her by. I'm sure Dulce's narco is loaded and she could've bought the girl something from the hotel gift shop. Oh well, at least mother dear took a minute to knock off a note for her first born.
 

Rgv Chick, thanks for the comment about my dog. He's a real sweetie. Would love to see your goats. We used to have a few and enjoyed them.
 

"Hey, is anyone else getting Blogger's "Whoops, that's an error" page occasionally when coming here? "

Kirby - not just this site, but a few others. On my iPad and my PC desktop (so it's not an Apple thing) Even my email has been impossible to access from that web site. It all started a week or two ago. Glad it's not my computer, though I wish we all did not have to suffer this. I wonder what it could be???

Rgv Chick - Thanks for the Pablo/HotCop info. I was afraid I had missed something. I can go with speculation. That's half the fun of telenovelas!

HotCop is cute. He looks familiar, like I've seen him in another telenovela.


 

Alfredo and RGV Chick, you can tell how manipulative Lupe really is. He keeps bringing up Renee's dead mother saying "how happy" she would be that they were together. No she WOULD NOT if she could see how manipulative he is! She would not want to see her daughter unhappy and would tell Renee that if she really didn't love Lupe, then she should not be with him. Good marriages are not made of one person manipulating and the other person being "grateful for all the spouse has done." No, that is a very uneven field to work on. That gives one person in the position of power all the time and the other person being in the position of having to "be grateful" for unwanted "gifts". It would begin to feel like prison, not a marriage.

Jarifa, it will be pretty interesting when Veronica gets home and says, "Guess what honey? I got a promotion! I'm the new IT Director!"
 

HotCop was the ever suffering Miguel in Vino. The fellow who was in luuuurve with the chick (Irina) who was for Gabe Soto., Doris
 

Doris, yes, I'm getting "Whoops" errors too. About 2-3 times before I get a successful hit.

About HotCop and Pablo, when HotCop paid/tipped Pablo he kind of stroked his hand. I'll be shocked if these two don't become an item.
 

Niecie, loved the Judge Judy reference. Yes, Renée should claim it as a gift.
 

Doris, Hotcop was I another tn recent!y. I think it was LA Malquerida. He was in love with a character who was a former prostitute played by the actress Africa. ..cannot remember her last name.

 

Well, at least this tn is moving along. All these dads are struggling ,but they are not abandoning their kids like NotDulce did. I think that she is in for a big anvil because telenovelas do not deal kindly with mothers who abuse or abandon their children. Perhaps she will get caught in a trap with her gangster novio. Like Cynthia, I could never abandon my children even now when they are adults. You are a mother for life. #forever
 

Not holding my breath, but I'd been wondering if the Dog Defense Coalition would make an appearance today.
Must be getting that Oops that was an error thing too.
You are thinking of Africa Zavala
 

About Dulce, old Jorge could have talked to his kids till the cows came home and they would never have believed him about Dulce like Val seeing it in person. Heartbreaking as it was to see her in that big old lobby all alone then tears in her eyes, she will not forget this.

Jorge, bless his string bean heart, if he would talk WITH his kids rather than blathering all over the place, he would have a lot better luck.
 

Um, I'm probably just securing my 0% prediction rate for TNs, but is it possible that SemiDulce's gangster boyfriend told her no kids? Why was he there at the restaurant taking pictures on his phone?

I feel for Jorge. His wife dumped him and is doing who-knows-what, his kids are more than he can handle, and his old flame is dealing with chemotherapy, though he doesn't know that yet I think.

Anyway, I think we know now why the family with two employed lawyers never had a lot of extra cash, though it doesn't look like they were living in a cardboard box either.
 

Laughing about those stories of young people being amazed we know something about pop culture. Centuries ago, when I was 30, my husband had some undergraduate students over to our apartment and one of them was amazed that I had a Janis Joplin album. "How do you know about her?" she marveled. Oh well. These attitudes just get recycled with every generation.
 

Oh and Doris, my sympathies too with your ailing pup. Our cat is 17 years old and is getting thinner, plus exhibiting old people tremors now. Breaks my heart. She is pure love and affection so our whole family will need therapy when she goes.
 

Andy..yeah, my predictions are never right.

I feel sorry for Jorge. He is trying to be a good parent and also do his job. He's a bit of a stuffed shirt, but that is what happens when you always have to be the adult and take care of everyone. As Judy said, he takes his responsibilities seriously .

Kirby, as you said, seeing is believing. Now, Val has seen her mother's true colors. Raising kids is difficult even if you are lucky enough to have a good partner, but it is harder if you are a single parent or have a partner who hasnt't grown up.
 

Judy...wow..a 17 year old cat ! I told Hubba no more pets because I am not going to cry over an animal again. I have enough people to cry over and worry about. When our elderly black lab quietly passed away under the forsythia bush , it just about did me in. Likewise for Murphy , our cat..cried and cried. Likewise, for SHeba ,our pound pup, who was hit by a car.
 

Susanlynn, ditto on pets. It is too hard.
 

Jarifa: Flor cracks me up too ROFLOL.
 

Steve, Flor is a hoot.
 

I wonder if Good old reliable Jorge is going to be the one to figure out what is going on behind Maury's back at the toy shop.
 

Alec Baldwin just had a hip replaced , and his wife is expecting their fourth child !!. Careful, Neuron.
 

Susanlynn, very funny! As for Jorge, it would be interesting having him involved in solving the behind the scenes manipulations. I know this is “Papá” a toda madre but it would be good to get him beyond that role for a while in this case.
 

what would that title be in ENglish?
 

I would say: “An Awesome Dad”.
 

"Alec Baldwin just had a hip replaced , and his wife is expecting their fourth child:"

So, you mean the two are related?
 

Susanlynn, you asked the other day which dad besides bonbon Mau we'd choose if we had too. Before last night's reveal that Jorge may have a whole outside secret family, I would've picked him. He cares about his kids and is very responsible at Logatoys. Some salsa lessons, a trip to the beach, and casual clothes could get him to loosen up.
 

It's all in the hips.
 

Now, the biggest, or second biggest next to Falcon and friends, mystery is Jorge's old flame Either the man has a heart the size of Texas, or Yuirianiara has something on him. Like a broken record I'd say it will probably be revealed shortly. Kirbo like.

Niecie, after your renovation, you might be fighting Dulce for him. :-)
 

Kirby, oh yeah, I can see a catfight when Miss D comes on back to try out new & improved Jorge 2.0.
 

Niecie...yeah, I think that Jorge would be my choice , too. I like your suggestions for a makeover. Let's include a gym membership and a new hairstyle.I like the salsa lessons ,and the beach makes everyone better. Tono has a teen mentality , and Neuron always looks sad. ...so....no to them.
 

Whoops, that's an error in my browser is an error code (bX-gloc1x) which is a Blogger Template error. So if that is the case for all of us, there is an error which none of us has created, but rather the blog administrators, or possibly one of the other people who maintain caray. I think. So if anyone is reading this who is allowed to muck around in it, you might take a look.

kj
 

Mixed Content: The page at 'https://caraycaray.blogspot.com/' was loaded over a secure
connection, but contains a form which targets an insecure endpoint
'http://search.freefind.com/find.html'. This endpoint should be made available
over a secure connection.
 

Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403

requested an insecure script 'http://feedjit.com/?bc=465369&tc=F7F6F6&brd1=FFACDD&lnk=
01FF2C&hc=D0E567&ww=185'. This request has been blocked; the content must be served over
HTTPS.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/
 

Just got three whoops before getting into the patio. Qth?
 

I went to a bunch of other Google Blogs which use Blogger and they are all fine, it is just caray.
 

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