Wednesday, December 12, 2018
Amar a Muerte, 12/12/2018, Episode 29: Which Ones Are the Bad Guys? Oh, They Are ALL Bad
Labels: Muerte
Remember, women’s hearing is fifty times better than men’s or dog’s.
"And it has to be! We need to keep a few steps ahead of you rascals."
Glad to see that Lucia has come out looking good and Eva looking bad. What bothers me in these stories is the collateral damage. Karla's father (in this life) has been badly beaten, injured so severely he may never work again, and all because she could not stay away from her gambling addiction.
Is the message that even though we may be "reborn" we carry the same mistakes with us?...Karla with gambling, Jacobo with his desire for Lucia. That still leaves Beltrán. We don't know where or if he was reborn but el Chino is using his body very effectively.
Will look forward to watching this later today.
I have been following you guys since episode one, am not real telenovela's Fan but Angelique Boyer makes me speechless to her performances, am watching this through internet each episode because we are not getting Univision nor Televisa in East Africa
I like the show it's completely different from El Cuerpo and both actors are Great starting with Protagonistas.
JudyB, "Is the message that even though we may be "reborn" we carry the same mistakes with us?...Karla with gambling, Jacobo with his desire for Lucia. That still leaves Beltrán." I think you may have nailed it!
Steve, He is a evil psycho in everything I have seen him in. He was just as bad as Eric Montenegro, and a sadistic bloodthirsty gay narco in La Piloto. He just has that look and the same hair always.
Unknown, welcome, I hope you enjoy our little group.
I wonder about that message Judy: Unfortunately I agree. Karla gambling sure fits the message. We are all enjoying the puppyish love reblossoming with Lucia and LCJ, BUT...BUT...Silvana's coffee grounds say there are dark clouds forming down the road.
But he doesn't really have anyone in his sights as of yet. I guess things could change once he digs up his money.
And if he and Busty Rose ever consummate their friendship, he will need a gun to protect himself from Aleashia
So. How did Svengali Armenta and his goons slip out of a public library surrounded by ten SWAT teams undetected?
Johny continues to throw around the theory that LCJ is involved in all this, but no one is listening any more. Especially Lucia and Montilla. It would be nice if Eva and Johny would somehow take each other out.
I really liked Lucia's 'reinvent' chat with Johny last night. He made a few crucial mistakes. He seriously overestimated his charm-based control over her without setting up any secure method like blackmail to guarantee she would do his bidding.
He seriously overestimated his value to Caraval and by the same amount underestimated hers. "Just keep playing the grieving widow."
As SOON as she discovered as much she told him that the game plan has changed and now she is calling the shots. Through most of the show you could just see him thinking and planning, trying to outsmart Lucia, LCJ, and Montilla.
Steve, inquiring minds want to know: Who's Monica?
Kirby, "How did Svengali Armenta and his goons slip out of a public library surrounded by ten SWAT teams undetected" Uhmmmm, are tunnels quite popular nowadays?
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Poor Johny. For the interview watching party, he looks like the little boy who wasn’t chosen for a game of nerfazos and is excluded from the tight circle of friends. He keeps trying to get in the circle using his “wisdom,” but continues to be excluded. Yes, he definitely miscalculated Lucia's new determination to make something new of herself. And, of course, he's correct in suspecting LCJ, for one of the two reasons--hitting on Lucia and being involved with the narcos. He'll have to puzzle those out, now that Lucia came through unscathed and strong enough to contradict his plans, er, excuse me, THEIR plans.
"Eva turns and tells him [Mateo] he should be the one to be upset since he has been a reporter for years and has gotten nowhere…" OUCH. I see a break-up coming. She doesn't need him for anything any more. She has looks, power, authority, and some hot bedtime activity (not with him). He adds nothing to her status. And Mateo certainly doesn't need her, unless it's to make him feel obligated and submissive and to hold on to his monthly allowance. She gives him incredible social status, but he seems to set that aside and argues with her constantly about his articles.
"So. How did Svengali Armenta and his goons slip out of a public library surrounded by ten SWAT teams undetected?" Kirby—They wear Ninja outfits. Couldn’t they have become invisible? (You are asking questions that even a Triple-lined Beanie can't answer for you.)
One of the things I like about this story, after Kayla's hemline, oh, and Renata's new look too, is how Lucia is doing something positive when all expectations are the opposite.
It is a vast understatement to say the deck was stacked against her from early on. Conventional (at least TN) wisdom says , "Oh she will be sooo messed up, she did what? Oh well look what Mom did to her." Etc. etc. ad nauseum
But instead we see a smart young woman who has washed all that evil history out of and off of herself in the river.
She is smart enough to see the people and events around her clearly without her vision clouded by her past, and she is doing something positive about it. It is slick seeing her vision of smelly Johny changing in front of our eyes.
She shows us that you for sure can not go back and change the past unless you are Death Chick, but you can for sure and for certain change the future.
I hopeo things work out for her.
Anon 2:33 Thanks for the reminder. I s'pose I can catch up on another TN I'm behind on. mehh
Elsa, I couldn't figure out the song. Thanks for giving us the title. Will that be their song?
Kirby, ITA, we are seeing a very dramatic, albeit good change in Lucia. JohnyBeShocked is not going to take it easily. I'm afraid for Lucia. And when all is said and done, will LCj let bygones be bygones. He is finding it very difficult not to mesmerized by Lucia. How will that affect his vengeance plan?
Just as slowly and tantalizing as Luci's and LCJ's attraction grows, it is a TN rule that the protags are separated for at least 1/3 of the show. I have a feeling that after his keen investigation, he's not going to believe she had nothing to do with his actual murder, and only was in collusion with Johny's plans to run the media empire.
I hate to think what is going to happen when Beltino comes back to claim his body. OTOH, he seems so enamored by Javier--a real son figure, which Jules never was, and despite Alicia's nagging actually likes not having to go out and kill people for his supper.
I'm lost about the Carla character and don't remember how she died or anything else. If anyone can give a very short recap of her story, thank you.
Like our other moth people, Karla is two stories. The Karla we see, the body, all we know is her dad mentioned the other day that he was thankful she survived that horrible accident. We assume she died and Death chick brought her back.
Now the other one whose spirit is in flesh Karla, was a gambling addict who stole from the bank where she worked to support her hobby. She and gambling so messed up her life that she committed suicide by burning down her house while she was in it. She left behind a small daughter Monica and a husband Ernesto.
Karla/Carla' body is inhabited by the wife (of Ernesto) and mother of a young daughter, Monica. She had a gambling addiction. She committed suicide by setting herself on fire because she had lost a lot of their money. I myself just learned that her original self is named Jeraldi Jimenez.
The real Karla/Carla was in an accident--we just learned that--and Pedro, her graveyard keeper father notes that she isn't the same since her accident. Jeraldi in Karla is trying to win back the money she lost. So far she's been successful in keeping it, though the Ruski and his pals have been trying to get it back. She wants to leave it for her husband and daughter. She got Camilo to agree to pass it on and isn't scared to die again.
Again, AB is knocking it out of the park.
Thanks again everyone.
Kirby, I'm enjoying your recaps to no end!
I believe there are 87 episodes and we are on 29 or so. Correct me if I'm wrong RGV, Anita, but that is close anyway.
Now we just need to wait for ASL to start Season 2. They should have made Al otra lado del muro two episodes IMHO.
Kirby, your overwhelming interest in Renata’s physicality is hilarious. And her friend, whose name I forgot — i bet these.2 actresses are having a fabulous time with these parts and with the clothing they get to wear! Not sure if these actresses ever eat comfort food or maybe Univision just provides free Liposuction sessions throughout filming!
Re: Judy’s theory about how <>. Maybe so, but the reincarnated selves also are given a chance, though at times convoluted, to change things around, a second chance to make things right. In Leon’s case, it wasnt that HE did anything wrong. Rather, something wrong was done unto him. So we could say, the reborn souls are given a chance to “set things right.”
When and if Lucia finally learns who Jacobito really is ( IF that can ever happen???) , she will be thrilled to have same hubby in a super hot 20 year-younger form!!!!
Thank you, Kirby. I'm a little late in the game, but I read all your insightful comments and I'm glad to see new faces adding to out little group every day.
Guys, don't forget to sign your posts and stick to your nicknames, so we can all get to know you better.
At this point I'm wondering mostly what is Johnny's next step. Lucia gaining some independence might ruffle his feathers a tiny bit, but when he realises that she's starting to develop feelings for Jacobo, all Hell will break loose.
I'm also curious about where Eva will go. Spleiiting with Mateo is mostly a done deal in my head, too, but how long before she actually realises that she's in bed with a monster (or maybe she really doesn't care?) I must admit that of all the characters her arc makes no sense for me.
Carole, "the reborn souls are given a chance to “set things right.” That's pretty much it in a nutshell, but they sure are taking their sweet time and going at it "a lo loco" it seems. And "she (Lucia) will be thrilled to have same hubby in a super hot 20 year-younger form!!!!" Oh if only that could happen to all of us :-)
Adriana, I still haven't figured out what Eva really wants...other than to bash Lucia. Certainly, she must realize that the scorpion she sleeps with is a venomous, evil jerk, yet she keeps going back to him, despite that fact that she claims that she loves Mateo..and does seem to want to protect him. Maybe she sees Mateo as the one person who can make her appear to look decent in the eyes of the world.
OT- Victoria, I found a listing of new actors who will join Amar Sin Ley 2. I had already heard Kimberly DLR would be joining, but look who else is supposedly coming in--
- Carolina Gaitán
- Omar Germenos
- Erika de la Rosa
- Alejandra García
- Marlene Favela
- Marc Clotet
- Kimberly dos Ramos
- Sara Corrales <-<-<-<- Kirby will lick his chops with this one!
- Ximena Herrera
- Scarlet Gruber
- Marco Méndez
- Ricardo Franco
- Lucas Bernabé
- José María Galeano
- Erika Buenfil
Adriana I suspect Johny will try to get Lucia back on the plantation with a combination of sweet talk and pity. That is more or less what he has tried before with his 'our plans', and 'I did it all for US' speeches to her. He is jealous as hell of Jacobo, and sees him as an annoying wart on his ass, but in his ego inflated mind he has never even imagined that there could actually BE something. If he could have been a fish a few days ago he would be floating and bloating in the sun right now.
Eva is so messed up upstairs I can not imagine what her plan down the road is. She is smart enough to know that she can never tell Alacran, "Oh Hon, that sure was fun, and I made a lot of money with that laundry service thing we had, but now I am June Cleaver." Logically she would eventually join his organization, as that is about the only course which might keep her alive for a while. But she won't. She enjoys the power and prestige of Carvajal too much and it appears she may have screwed herself into a corner . It looks like her only way out would be to orchestrate some scenario in which Alacran dies. That is cagey too, because these fellows are ALWAYS watching their backs, it is kinda a part of that kind of job.
" bed with a monster (or maybe she really doesn't care?)" I don't think she cares. She sees that she can sex her way out of any Alacran dilemma thus far, and I don't think she believes he would harm her even when he has threatened her before.
She is kinda like Johny in that she is not 100 percent in touch with reality. But they will be. Life has a way with those things.
OT-Marco M will be good on the eyes for us ladies. I sure hope he has a much better personality than he did on RRRamon.
Amot/Carole: "...it wasn't that HE did anything wrong. Rather, something wrong was done unto him. So we could say, the reborn souls are given a chance to 'set things right.'” We can't give Leon a complete pass, lest we forget. When he "returned," as Jacobo, he was aware of how he had neglected his three children, in favor of business success. He felt guilty about that--he had "wronged" them. He saw who they had become, Eva, the ruthless; Guille, the spineless; and Vale, emotionally damaged to the core. So, yes, he now has a chance to set things right, but instead he's renewing his relationship with Lucia. The only one he has managed to connect with is Vale and the extent of which was to fill her head that her father was near, the reincarnation book and talking to Camilo. Big Hoo Ha. Of course WE are more interested in what will happen between Luci, LCJ and JohnyBeBad anyway.
Kirby--As far as picking off El Alacran, not only do these guys have other guys watching their backs, they travel in packs and there's always swift revenge for offing their titular head (although he's small stuff compared to Don Teresio).
RGV--You are so right about Silvie and the coffee grounds. She certainly was loyal and dedicated to Leon. Maybe she wasn't "seeing" straight in those days. If she had, though, we wouldn't have a story. So why bother telling us NOW that she sees bad times ahead for LCJ and Luci. We could see that without the coffee grounds. (Ugh, what kind of coffee does she make that leaves grounds, anyway. Tea would have been so much more sensible and time-honored.)
The good thing, is Monty is even more cunning and tricky than Johny. The one failing with the Johnys have is they THINK they are smarter than anyone or anything, and Montillo has figured that out. You can see him capitalizing on that Columbo-style as he keeps in touch with Johny, and lets Johny think he has lured him in as a Buddy. That is far from the truth.
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Anon at 12:32, 12:41 - You got me. WE get enough of El Chino sizzling during the credits. Karla/Jeraldi only started seeing herself burning recently.
Anon 1:19, now that you mention it, I do remember that conversation between Karla and Cami.
I did not watch ASL #1, but I like some of the cast for #2. Does anyone know when and what time it will be on?
Cold, foggy, and gray here...rain is on the way for the whole weekend.meh.
I'm impressed that you took the time to FIND a picture of Turkish coffee reading. What else is necessary? Is there a how to video on YouTube perhaps?
I agree that MB isn't aging well and this style haircut and beard are not the most flattering for him. Still love those eyes, though.
Agree completely about EvilEva. She is a complete mess and up to her scalp in poison.
When PASL 2 comes up I'm signing on. Time to give Christopher Mason a narrating partner.
What you need to do is prepare your coffee the turkish way - grounded coffee boiled with water and then poured into white mugs (White so you can see the signs).
Once the coffee is ready, you can even read stuff in the foam that forms, as far as I can remember.
Anyway, you drink your coffee and you just let a tiny portion at the bottom so it gets mixed with the grounds and it forms a paste.
You turn the mug upside down for a few minutes and then you are ready to start your reading. You can see lines, circles, triangles, animals, different objects etc...and each thing you "see" has a different meaning.
There are people out there who have an actual gift for this type of thing and it's not something that you can be taught, you need to "steal" it from someone else, by watching them perform.
And there are many other ways you can guess someone's future, Eastern European customs could put even the coolest shamans to shame, I believe.
I'm interested in Ley2, also, mostly for Victoria and Roberto.
As far as I know DZ is still one of the protas but Ana Brenda will only be in a few episodes, due to scheduling conflicts.
Since i was unfamilar with mIchel brown prior to this TN, could you folks tell me in what way as he aged poorly? I think he’s pretty hot myself.
Carole. Here in very rainy Florida
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