Thursday, April 09, 2015
La Sombra del Pasado #37 - Wed 4/8 -It's raining men. Hallelujah.
Renato helps Aldonza walk off her anger. I hope she changed shoes. Just saying. He's never seen such a scene in his life. "Well, that's Santa Lucia for you." Aldonza still can't understand how the hell a feud between families could lead to what just happened in the church. "They can't even let my mother rest in peace!" But she's not leaving again…never. And she's going ahead with her plans. Renato is concerned about how violent things can get, but he's still in. After getting a little frisky with her hand, he says they both need to go rest, because it's been a long day and they need to discuss the next steps for Mis Planes. The blow to Sev needs to be delivered as soon as Aldonza is moved into El Santuario.
Before Mari can hightail (heh!) it to her room, Ulises would like a word. He wants to know what she talked about with Emmanuel. He knows they were arguing and he's not buying her lies that things are cool and they're just taking "a break." He wants to have Sev fire Emmanuel. Mari, still lying, at least tells a more noble lie and says the relationship just happened so fast and everyone's been coming down on Emmanuel and so it was HER decision to take a break and let things cool down. Em has been a total gentleman. Uriel backs down.
Dominga and Melesio are worried about Lola. She's been quiet a whole three minutes. She's mopey about Emmanuel, thinking he's dating Mari now. Dominga would like Lola to find some other guy to crush on. Melesio says she doesn't even have to look--the guy who's worth it will come looking for her. Lola changes the subject to Doña BSCande. I cackle gleefully as Dominga says she's gonna let her have it for her behavior in church! Yeah, you go, Dominga! Hell no, she won't stay out of it! She may be the boss in her own house, but not in God's house.
Aldonza finally makes it home to her very worried aunt. Adelina wants to have a talk--not about what happened, but about why Aldonza didn't tell her what was going on with Cristobal. "Because it wasn't important." Channeling tofie, Adelina says, "How can you call it unimportant that the only man who's ever meant something in your life tells you that he still loves you? That's not important? Puh-leeze!" Aldonza says she never expected to run into him again and she thought they had both gotten over each other. And she doesn't feel bad because of their feelings, but she does feel bad about him breaking it off with Valeria. "It's as if I was reliving what happened with my mother. You know, that feeling of guilt. I'm sure that if I hadn't gone to the convent and I'd been with my mother when she found out she had cancer, things would have turned out differently." Adelina says there's nothing Aldonza could have done. Roberta made her decision. As did Val, "And at least in this case, no paso de mayores" (it wasn't worse). Aldonza imagines that poor Val must have felt so desperate, and even though she knows she's not responsible, she feels like she pushed her to it. "I swear, I don't want to hurt Valeria, even though she was going to marry Cristobal and I was going to lose him forever." Aldonza and Adelina cry together. I have to admit that I did not see it coming that Aldonza would make that connection between the two suicides. And I'm sure Val didn't make the connection either.
Speaking of accidentally brilliant manipulators…Emmanuel comes to visit and she tells Pru to let him in. So she can tell him his friend is a fiancé-stealing skank. And beg him to get Cristobal to come visit her. With much whining and touching. Come on, Em, are you going to get played by EVERY woman in town under the age of 30?
Renato gets a call that something happened, and though we don't hear the answer to "But is she ok?" he says he's on his way back right now.
Aldonza gets a message from a waiter that Renato had an emergency and had to leave. He packed everything and left early. She pulls out her cell phone (ding, ding, ding!) and calls him. He's in the hospital. His mom's not doing well. OMG, show! Does Aldonza have to relive every single trauma?! Can't the poor girl catch a break for an episode or two?
Joaquin remembers explaining to Adelina that his wife is a jealous cow and there's no point talking to her when she's pissed. Said jealous cow comes home to complain about him working for free. He tells her that they're pretty much done with the house, but that doesn't mean he's going to abandon them out there alone. Flavia is, of course, furious, because Joaquin, of course, is really just using that as a pretense for the hot and heavy affair that he's surely having with Adelina. And she doesn't buy all that crap about how his son and Flavia are the most important people in the world to him. Because if they were, he'd spend more time at home. Joaquin talks her down and says he will be spending more time at home, but she needs to make an effort and quit thinking stupid things. They can't let this ridiculousness upset their domestic tranquility. Flavia can't resist a parting "Well, show me!" Oh, yeah, Flavia, constant suspicion, jealousy, and badgering. That's the way to keep a man. And if that doesn't work, I've got an inbox full of spam testimonials to send your way.
Aldonza hopes Renato's mom will be ok. He says they don't know what it is--just headaches, and since she just put up with them and didn't say anything, they didn't know how frequently she was having them. They kept telling her to go see a neurologist, but "you know how moms are. She never paid attention!" (Nicely played, show.) Aldonza tells him everything will be fine. She'll go get a bus ticket to be with him. He tells her not to, she's got enough to worry about. "Yes, but none of it's urgent." She insists on going and gets him to give her the name of the hospital.
Irma and Adelina talk Cande and Lola can't resist joining in, saying that lady's always been a "mustia" (shriveled-up old bat?) "And I should know, I live with her!" Irma scolds Lola. Lola insists she speaks only truth. Cande is a "culebra ponzoñosa" (a venemous snake). Even the stuffed paisley dachshund with the pink ribbon agrees. Irma says something must have set her off…it must have been something serious. Adelina doesn't care. Her niece didn't deserve that. Irma agrees. Adelina gets the call from Aldonza…"I was just thinking about you." Aldonza jokes that "nos telepateamos" (we're telepathic). She's calling to say that she's going to the DF because Renato's mom is sick and he's anxious about it. Well, Adelina won't let her go alone. "No, you stay here and get the house ready so we can move in." Adelina fusses about how she doesn't want Aldonza in the big, bad city alone. Lola butts in to say she'll go with Aldonza, if Irma will let her. She begs Irma, saying the last time her BFF went to the DF alone, she didn't come back until just now! She won't let her do that again. Irma can't help agreeing, as long as Lola makes up the time later, plus extra. Of course Lola agrees. This satisfies Adelina's need to not have Aldonza left alone and Aldonza's need to have the house finished before Joaquin needs to go back to his regular job (whatever that is). But Aldonza still hesitates, because she's in a hurry. Well, so is Lola--to get the heck out of the Gossip Capital of Mexico for a while. They'll meet at the bus terminal in an hour. Annnnnnd she's off. Adelina thanks Irma for giving Lola the time off.
Emmanuel approaches a moping Cris and asks how he's doing. Like the good friend he is. And tells him that Valeria is depressed. Like the nice, but too easily manipulated guy he is. Cris has made up his mind, he's not getting back together with Val. Well, ok, but Emmanuel thinks he needs to talk to her and end it on good terms. Like that's possible. He thinks Cris should go over anyway, even though Humberto told him to stay away. Now, finally, Cris asks about Em's women problems. Emmanuel doesn't know how he got himself into this mess or how he's going to get himself out of it. He explains to Cris how it's probably going to cost him his job, since he told Mari to take a hike. Cris offers to step in , but Emmanuel tells him to take care of his own drama.
Lola's packed and ready. Dominga punts to Melesio. Melesio succumbs to the combination of whining, ready answers (that they're taking a bus and will stay at Aldonza's apartment), Lola's need for a change of scenery, her assertion that she packed before asking because she knew they'd say yes, and probably his own exasperation and need for a little peace and quiet after ALL the drama lately. He warns her that they'd better behave. He'll take her to the bus station and give her some money. Lola runs off to tell the taxi to wait. Dominga isn't sure they're doing the right thing, but Mel says Lola's a grown woman and they keep treating her like a child. They need to let her open her wings and fly. Dominga says the change of scenery will do Lola some good.
Valeria is tired of being in bed and comes downstairs to ask Pru to let Cris in, if he shows up. And she's sure he will show up because she asked Emmanuel to help her. She also wants to be left alone with Cris. Just to talk. Like two civilized people. Well, that would take a third person in the room, at the very least. Well, Pru agrees to do it and not tell Humberto.
Lola and Mel get to the bus depot and Mel tells them to call when they get there. He tries to pay for the bus ticket and has to settle for giving Lola money for food and a blessing.
Adelina visits Padre J's office. She tells him about Aldonza going to Mexico. She doesn't know what's wrong with Renato's mother. Padre J likes that she went, since Renato's done a lot for her lately. He hopes this time out of town will help get Cris out of her head and her heart. Padre, are you familiar with the rites of exorcism, 'cause I don't think a trip to the DF is gonna do the trick. Adelina is feeling like the more they keep thinking that Cris and Aldonza shouldn't be together, the more life throws them together. They both agree that they'll be praying for Renato's mother.
She's in a hospital bed, but they don't have the test results yet. Renato is telling her that he's sure everything is going to be fine. "Ok. But if it's not, I want you to know I'm happy you turned out so well. You're a man in every sense of the word, and I'm really proud of you. And soon you'll find a woman who will make you happy. Or may be you found her already?" Renato says she may be right. She reminds him the paths of the heart are uncertain. Aw, crap, she's totally going to die. And where the hell is his dad?
On the bus, Lola and Aldonza talk about Renato's mom. And then Cande. Aldonza's confused that she would make a scene like that after she supposedly invited her to the engagement party so they could make peace. But, whatever. She's not going to spend her life crying about it. And she's never going to show it when they hurt her. Lola says Cris doesn't seem to care and he luuuuuurves her. "What good is that. The more he loves me, the more his dear saintly mother hates me." Lola brings up how jealous Val must be now, and Aldonza laughs, forgetting her earlier self-imposed guilt trip.
Renato says his mom will get better and everything will be fine. "We don't know that, but I do know that one way or another, you're going to be happy. Because you have a big heart. I have a son that's worth a family of 20. You've given me all the happinesses a mother could ask for. " Renato says he was also a bad kid, he didn't listen, he broke windows, he was a rebel. Mami calls him a naughty angel.
Aldonza and Lola move on to talking about the Mari-Emmanuel scene at the party. Yeah, Aldonza saw. "But if he gets tired of Mari and realizes you're the one he really wants, would you take him back?" Lola doesn't think so. She can't wait around for him. She's given up on him and never wants to hear about him again.
The extended goodbye scene continues. I'm sad, y'all. I want some doctor to come in and announce that she needs some ridiculously simple surgery to fix whatever the problem is and all this has been unnecessary. She tells him he's been a great son and she loves him a bunch. Renato loves her too, with all his heart. He urges her to sleep and he'll be there, watching over her. "I love you." "I love you more."
Emmanuel shows off Soletario's smooth moves for Severiano and some guy named Jacinto. I have no idea where he came from, but I guess we needed some new faces? Jacinto and Sev talk about how Emmanuel seems born for the saddle. His skill with horses is equal only to his lack of luck with women. No horse can resist him. Mari is also there, looking on and gloating. Lemme paint the scene. She's wearing a long-sleeved, button up shirt in some sort of drapey fabric, that's only buttoned right at her boobs, and shorts that are rolled up to about a 2-inch inseam. She goes over to greet Severiano, and I swear it looked like he kissed her on the mouth. He DEFINITELY leaned back to check out her ass. And the fact that the two actors are married to each other did NOT make that look any less skeevy. Am I supposed to believe that Sev has some kind of radar that enables him to only ogle women like this when nobody's looking? Mari's still trying to talk to Emmanuel. Severiano summons Jacinto so she can talk to him alone. But Emmanuel doesn't want to talk. Mari says she doesn't want to force anything. "Oh, now you tell me." He thinks she's showing off her "cinismo" (shamelessness). Mari explains that she told her dad they broke up and asked him not to get Emmanuel fired. She just came there to say she wouldn't bother him again. Emmanuel thanks her sincerely. And asks if they'll still be friends. Um…why? Mari, of course, agrees.
Lola and Aldonza get to the hospital, dragging their suitcases, and just as the doors start to close a *ahem* handsome young man in a suit comes barreling down the hallway begging them to wait, runs directly into the elevator and practically pins Lola to the wall. She's not complaining. I'm not complaining. They're having a moment. I'm having a moment. Mr. 5ft is cracking me up, asking if men are just falling form heaven. Um, I kinda think so. Once they exit the elevator, he apologizes profusely, but hey, it could happen to anyone, and ten apologies is a little excessive. He's not following them, he's a friend of Renato's. Ohhhhh, this is the guy from the day Aldonza registered for school, right? Patricio? Aldonza goes on ahead to greet Renato. His dad is in with the neurologist and they haven't told him what's up yet. Two doctors come running past Ren and Aldonza and his dad blocks him from going into the room…or after the hospital bed as they wheel his mother away. He assures Renato that his mom is in the best possible hands, but she just fell into a coma.
And now, the confrontation we've all been waiting for. I'll spare myself the time to analyze and give it to you con todos sus letras…
Cande: Dominga, serve me a tea. My head is going to explode.
Dominga: Maybe that's from the shame that's looking for a way out.
C: What are you talking about?
D: Seriously? You know exactly what I'm talking about. How did you dare do something so…stupid…in the middle of the church!
C: Don't start, Dominga!
D: Oh, I'm starting!
C: I'm giving you an order!
D: Yes, I know you're the boss around here, but not in God's house! There you're the same as me and the same as any of the faithful, and what you did, Candela--
C: What I did isn't any of your business.
D: Oh, yes it is, because you didn't just offend Aldonza Alcocer, but all the believers in the church, and I'm a believer in the church! You offended Padre Jeronimo and God himself!
C: Don't exaggerate.
D: Listen up, Candela. God's house is not for you to be resolving your personal conflicts.
C: You're going too far, Dominga.
D: Lots of donations, lots of prayers…but when it comes to actions, that's when someone shows the kind of Christian they are. And if you want to fire me for saying this to you, then let me know and I'll pack my bags.
Melesio has been in a panic, trying to get Dominga to shut up without actually saying or doing anything by waving his hand around and gaping. How are those Jedi powers working out for you, Don Mele? Candy waits a beat and then tells Dominga to bring the tea up when it's ready. She's not going to keep listening to "tonterias" (stupidity). Sev has been eavesdropping and comes in when Cande leaves. Melesio is already begging for their jobs, but Sev says he'd rather give Dominga a bonus than fire her. "It's about time somebody put Candela's feet on the ground. Congratulations, Dominga. I'd applaud you if I could. Would you bring me a tea, too?" Dominga's in shock. I would have liked it better if Sev didn't also need someone to deliver a verbal, physical, spiritual, and/or nuclear smackdown to him as well.
Renato's dad explains that she's going into emergency surgery to repair an aneurism. As soon as he knows more, he'll let Renato know. And he goes off, presumably to go help. Or stalk the doctors. Aldonza tells Renato to be calm and trust his dad. They have to be positive. Yeah, that's…not going to work.
Cris shows up to see Valeria and Pru makes herself scarce. Val has returned to bed. She pretends to be surprised to see him and says she's ok. "You probably think I was being stupid and I just did it to blackmail you, but I swear, I felt so bad. I really did want to die. I don't know what I'm going to do without you? How can I go on living when you're everything to me?" Cris tells her that she's giving him way too much credit and she'll feel better with time. "You'll realize I'm not worth dying over." Val says he'll always be important to her and, like she said on the phone, she loves him and she'll always love him. She pulls him in for a hug…and then tries to get a little sexual healing, if the sexy sax music is any indication.
Tomorrow: We'll find out if they done the deed, I would assume. Lots of people are plotting various things. The announcer warns of "the worst revenge."
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And that final scene cements my belief that Val really needs lots of alone time with Cris to keep him in line. Coming back to SL must have disrupted his dosing schedule.
It wouldn't make his character any less loathsome or reprehensible, but I feel like I could stomach Sev's presence better if everyone on the show including him made cheesy one-arm jokes all the time.
Cassandra G.
Probably my favorite line.
Mr Not So Awesome decided he wanted to watch his recording of iZombie so I missed the first 30ish minutes. Your recap was a life saver.
I'm on the Patricio/Lola ship. I've wanted to see that actor again since LFDD. If he's crushing on Lola that might mean I can see more of him.
But how are all these characters going to fit into the story if they aren't in Santa Lucia? Maybe Aldonza's melon empire will require many tips to the DF.
Yep, my favorite too. That woman should stop whining and thank her lucky stars at the guy she landed.
Boy there was some major jawing going on last night. This recap was fantastic Kat. Bet you were happy with some of the scenes you got.
And YES, Sev did smooch Val. I swear he did and was so checking her out, which I don't think she minded a bit. That gave me a moment of pause. She's still a little manipulating beyotch. Period.
Oh, and another cute newbie. Forgot he was the guy from a previous time. But I was "Oh yeah, Lola, go for it girl, What happens in Mexico can stay in Mexico". But then I thought of poor E-Man left in the clutches of Mari and I felt bad. Someone in the writing room had to purposefully think "let's kill the women of viewerville with an overabundance of cute, NICE guys and make them sweat it out what happens to them". Success!!
A drank a toast to Dominga with the last of my wine last night, and the look on their faces when Sev made his comments...priceless. Cande couldn't afford to lose the only person she can confide in, and I think it did unnerve her to have the woman who is like a mother tell her how badly she behaved.
Yeah, so uh, that spine we were all talking about on Cris. Did he leave it at Val's door....because I was swearing at the TV last night. If that goes any further than the kiss, I'm done with him until he really has to do some earning his chops to get Allie back. Ultimate revenge? Is that Val being able to pull the horrid pregnancy fakeout....NO!
And a coffee toast to Renato's Mom this morning. We hardly knew you, but you raised an amazing son who we wish had a better ending in store for him. There was a moment last night that I thought....oh, maybe we get a twist and Allie really does wind up with Renato? Dang...this show is killing me and I'm loving every minute.
Daisynjay
Anyway, today's action.
Sev totally checked out her ass.
"Even the stuffed paisley dachshund with the pink ribbon agrees"
"He DEFINITELY leaned back to check out her ass"
"How are those Jedi powers working out for you, Don Mele?" You nailed this one Kat, just yesterday I was trying to visualize him and couldn't, yet you did. Yoda!
Dammit Cris, I spent time and energy on your finer points yesterday.
Val - I got an ace in the honey boo boo hole
Lola - go on ahead Aldonza, I'm gonna ride the elevator awhile
Cris - you just had to touch it didn't you
Emmanuel - hot cancels stupid to a point
Dominga - there any ass stuck between my teeth?
Renato - oh, and there was that time I didn't escort an old lady across the street
Cande - don't be so melodramatic, I didn't urinate on the altar
Severiano - Mari looks cuter if she's my sons gf
Your witty humor and the way you put things in proper perspective are remarkable.
"Dominga and Melesio are worried about Lola. She's been quiet a whole three minutes" and "accidentally brilliant manipulators" were among many favorites.
“Mr. 5ft is cracking me up, asking if men are just falling form heaven”. Yes – and pretty hawt ones (including Jacinto too)! So good to hear from Mr. 5ft – he’s been missed. I don’t know how you recognized Lola’s new admirer? What a memory you have.
Thank you for translating Dominga and Cande's conversation. Props to Dominga for speaking her mind. Anon, thanks for pointing out Sev said "If I could, I would applaud you". Perhaps there is a sense of hummor hidden in the murky depths of his soul.
"She goes over to greet Severiano, and I swear it looked like he kissed her on the mouth". Kat, that was a definite husband/wife kiss (which they are) – so totally inappropriate for the characters. I wondered if that was impromptu as she had no reaction! Interesting.
tofie, "Renato - oh, and there was that time I didn't escort an old lady across the street". Exactly. And I really liked the actress who played his mother (she is not familiar to me). So now Renato will be alone with his miserable, cheating father.
I am beyond disappointed in Cris. daisy, I am sure he meant nothing initially than to comfort her. But he must realize that anything physical is only going to lead her on and immerse himself even further in her tangled web. I thought the kiss went on far too long as it was! Sorry, red dress, waterfall, blah, blah...I am ready for Renato to swoop in and abscond with Aldonza.
And now, more revenge? Good heavens, what can Sev and Cande do to her that hasn't already been done?? Wait. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked.
Diana
I sometimes wonder if Emmanuel was deprived of a teensy bit of oxygen during his birth. (We know Roberta had trouble with the delivery). Em is a nice, sweet guy, but quite dense when it comes to “wimmin”, manipulations, machinations, etc.. Just sayin’ …..
”Dominga and Melesio are worried about Lola. She's been quiet a whole three minutes.”
LOL
”Dominga punts to Melesio.”
More LOLz!
”D: Lots of donations, lots of prayers…but when it comes to actions, that's when someone shows the kind of Christian they are. “
I am totally sitting at the Dominga table on the Patio. You go, girl!!!
I have to admit that I did not see it coming that Aldonza would make that connection between the two suicides. And I'm sure Val didn't make the connection either.
Neither did I. Honestly, I forgot that Rob killed herself and thought "but she died of a brain tum-oh right!" last night. Does anyone in SL know it was suicide? Would any of them think twice about their actions if they did? We know Val will. but only to double any guilt Aldonza's feeling.
Come on, Em, are you going to get played by EVERY woman in town under the age of 30?
Emmanuel approaches a moping Cris and asks how he's doing. Like the good friend he is. And tells him that Valeria is depressed. Like the nice, but too easily manipulated guy he is.
just as the doors start to close a *ahem* handsome young man in a suit comes barreling down the hallway begging them to wait, runs directly into the elevator and practically pins Lola to the wall. She's not complaining. I'm not complaining. They're having a moment. I'm having a moment. Mr. 5ft is cracking me up, asking if men are just falling form heaven. Um, I kinda think so.
That last one made me laugh aloud.
E's being a pushover makes me sad. I keep thinking how often he must have tried as a child to please Pru, Cande, Sev and anyone else in his world, just trying to keep some acceptance, some affection. How many times has he probably taken the blame for Val or tried to make her day better without any thanks? I imagine it was a lot.
Wow - new guys! Jacinto means nothing to me right now. Patricio, on the other hand - well! I was not expecting him at all. He doesn't give me a "moment" moment, but I was not expecting the L-E-M triangle to become a quadrangle with that particular person (I was actually wondering how the heck they were going to revamp Lola and Renato to make them work b/c I was not seeing them working at all). Anyway, E's not going to like this AT ALL. Which serves him right. My question is, will Mari get jealous and go after Patricio too?
PS: I love Renato. But I don't like his hair cut.
Come on, Em, are you going to get played by EVERY woman in town under the age of 30?
I am trying to muster some give a sh-- for E-man right now. He just seems to have bungled the whole Lola/Mary triangle. But then I remember that he is not used to people being nice to him and he has NO idea how to deal with it.
It REALLY bothers me that the triangle might affect his JOB. That just seems unfair.
Please, please don't do the Cris and Val sleep together and she gets pregnant so they have to get married cliche. I hate that one the most.
The actor playing Sev and the actress playing Mari are married in real life? That just proves that the actress playing Mari is too old for that part. She looks like she's at least late 30s.
And I'm sure the actress is a perfectly lovely person, but she is so terribly mis-cast! It is so glaringly obvious that she is older than Lola, Val and Aldonza and no amount of pony-tail swishing and sashaying is going to convince me she's their age.
Oddly, Alex is in his late 30's but can totally pull off the role.
Brialliant observation Hellashelle. he's been that odd child out, not really belonging to anyone, not actually accepted well, except for Hum, who took him in. I think that may be why the director likes to always have E-Man standing alone or seeming confused. he doesn't know his place.
I thought it interesting the way the scene with Cris was filmed last night. E-man looking up at Cris...they may be friends, but I think we see E-man still feeling inferior to everyone. I don't look at it as being a pushover. Your point plays well into him asking Mari as she walked off if they can still be friends. He doesn't want to displease or hurt anyone. Sigh......
Daisynjay
"He doesn't want to displease or hurt anyone."
I just love reading comments from you guys. So many interesting thoughts. I feel like you are helping me understand characters so much better.
And like the red dress conversation yesterday, I feel like the comments help me look a little deeper. It makes the show even more entertaining for me.
Thanks so much , Diva, for that excellent recap.
I have not read the comments yet and only have time for a quick remark before I run off to get my driver's license photo ID and then look for a place for our class reunion.
I just knew when Pru QUIETLY skulked out the door with that sheepish look on her face that Vile's plan was to play the sexytime card and seduce Cris...and it looked to me as if her plan was working. Boohiss Now what...a pregnancy to seal his fate ?
I do not have a son , but I would want a son like Renato. I thought the scene between Ren and his mom was sweet. So many characters do not have good parent/child relationships.
I noticed the smarmy look on Severed's face as he groped Mari. Jacinto is a new, cute face. Maybe Mari will hook up with him to get pregnant and pin it on E.
Lola looked like she was ready for a new guy. I wish she would dial back her edthusiasm just a pinch.
Dominga...go, go, go. Mel looked like he wanted to put his hand over her mouth.
Dominga won all the awards last night. She holds her tongue for a lot of things, but when she doesn't, whoa boy! I wonder if Cande's sniffling up in her room over it.
Cris is confusing doing the "nice" thing with doing the "right" thing. He's probably thinking, "I can't push her away. That would really hurt her feelings." He got himself into this mess, by not listening to Humberto.
Anon at 1:37 and Cassandra G, yep, it was definitely a "Hahaha!...Uh, wait, I don't like you." moment.
Also, I would like some Mis Planes merchandise for the gift shop. Planners maybe, or blank notebooks.
Gracias, Daisynjay! He really does lose his spine around her. I don't know what they would call "ultimate" or even who the revenge is on. Dare I hope that despite Renato's personal drama, they go ahead and make the big move he was talking about?
Gracias, Diana! Mr. 5ft thought the same thing about that Mari-Sev kiss...that it was a husband/wife kiss and they did it automatically. Maybe the production decided it would skeeve us out more if they left it in. Well played.
Gracias, doris! Dominga was in fine form last night. Emmanuel has been deprived of so much in life. Someone needs to take him aside and talk to him. Or he needs to go somewhere else with his awesome Horse Whisperer skills and see how he's treated when he's just another guy and not "That orphan the doctor took in."
Gracias, HellaShelle! I also forgot that Roberta committed suicide until Aldonza made the connection. Cande knows, because Padre J told her and Sev, but I don't know if she's been blabbing about it. I agree, if Val knew, she would use that as ammo.
Gracias, cathyx! I think she's in her mid-30's. She's just not carrying herself as if she's younger. Yet somehow she acts way younger than she's supposed to be. Compared to the job many of the other actors are doing, she sticks out as one of the not-so-greats.
Gracias, Susanlynn! I think Lola's "enthusiasm" dial is broken. It's either at "0" or "11"!
Ugh! Cris and Val? Please don't do that! You could see the blood flow shifting from the big head to the little head.
Dominga would make a good sergeant in somebody's army. What a great butt chewing. I am glad that her position in the household made it unlikely she would be fired.
A lot of you seem down on Renato's dad, and that he might be involved in the mother's health problems, but how do you cause an aneurism? He did have that fling with Roberta, but maybe there is a back story to that?
David
"Mary" is terribly miscast. She looks like a 45-year old who is trying to recapture her youth.
I keep thinking Val's behavior is like a toddler throwing a tantrum in the grocery store so Mom will buy them a toy. She's just going to do the same thing the next time she doesn't get what she wants, and when the fake attempts stop working, she'll start risking some real ones.
doris, if not for the affair with Roberta, I would think he's a good candidate for Adelina. I thought there was a little bit of a spark there when they first met.
(Now I sound like the toddler pitching a fit.)
- Cris pulls a "gee, Val, not tonight. You just tried to off yourself. Maybe not a good time". or just tell her NO.
- And we get a Cande meltdown when Dominga takes up that tea she ordered. We know she always has to appear cool to the masses,but to Dominga alone, let's see what happens. She's still not mother of the year, but I would like to see the human side that realizes she pulled a real bonehead move in the church.
I'll take Renato's dad off my list of shady suspects. He seems to have a lucrative practice though so not sure I can see why he would up and go to SL. He and Renato don't seem that close that he would give up everything to go where his son is. I could see Renato deciding to move to SL though.
What could be such a surprise with the property ( which by the way she's only renting right?) that would stun Sev so much? Is there a loophole on house versus land Sev didn't catch? They seem to really be spending all their time on the house...
Daisynjay
Daisynjay and tofie, it being a rental property is where I'm stumped coming up with a theory. I keep wondering if she could do something like screwing with his water supply. Even if it's only for a year that she has the use of the property, that could screw with him significantly. Or contacting some kind of preservation society? Would she give up the waterfall to get it out of Sev's hands permanently? Is she planning to run some kind of business out of the house? I guess the rental contract would have some say in that, but so would the town's zoning laws. Maybe the loophole has to do with any improvements she makes on the house/property and who "owns" them after the year is up? But most rental agreements specify that it all reverts to the landlord, right? Maybe she's planning to open up the Museum of Severiano Mendoza's Misdeeds or put up a huge neon sign that says "Severiano Mendoza is a rat bastard."
Except she doesn't realize how long Sev has wanted the property.
He's still the legal owner. She could make a bunch of money in melons and legally buy from Hum.
Daisynjay
All we saw of the original sale was Padre handing Roberta a check and she said it was fine...the implication being that some kind of paperwork was sent back and forth. That might make it easy to miss things, I suppose. And she was distraught enough that I wouldn't be surprised if she failed to notice an error on the paperwork...incorrect property line or something like that. I would guess Humberto had someone competent review the paperwork, but then he didn't have anyone review his rental contract with Aldonza before HE signed it either!
Daisynjay
Well, Renato's been out of school for, what, a week? So he probably has his own law firm.
Cowpoke boots under the robe too?
Before I was all "spoiled rich kid" but now that his mom's probably going to die, I'm glad Renato spent more time at home, for her sake. Once she's gone, though I think he needs to move to SL and get a swinging bachelor pad with Emmanuel and Patricio. Bro Central version 2.0...now with more dateable bros!
I read somewhere that if a blog owner will make the comment box open in a pop up window instead of on the same page that usually helps...but it was an article from 2010 so I don't know if that is even true any more.
Sara, sober problem-solving?! No way! People do that?
Eli, completely ate it. It's not even in my inbox. :(
Gracias, gringo. Val is the other one, as far as anyone but Val and Candela knows. That was one of the things Candela screamed at her in the church--that poor Val tried to kill herself.
https://www.justlanded.com/english/Italy/Italy-Guide/Housing-Rentals/Rental-Contracts
https://www.justlanded.com/english/Mexico/Mexico-Guide/Housing-Rentals/Rental-agreements
That seems more like what I'm used to for renting apartments in the US. When the contract is up, it's up and either party can easily end the contract with no restrictions for why.
That six months' notice for Italy sounds excessive. For one thing, a lot can happen in six months that could lead to not needing the property back. For another, if something does happen where you ARE going to need your property back, six months is a pretty long wait. I agree with your friend, Susanlynn...renting out her apartment sounds WAY too risky.
No spoiler, but that house seems to be more and more it's own character and taking on a whole plot all it's own.
Renato right now has the biggest target on his back considering he is going hand in hand to support Allie in whatever it is she has up her sleeve. I am so hoping I'm wrong on that one.
Daisynjay
This TN is just like House of Cards!
I loved Sevs joke but still hate him and I was so happy that Dominga gave Candy hell for the way she behaved!
Now to Cristobal, I can't blame him for being an innocent little Bambi, he has no idea that his father raped Aldonza and he sure as heck has no idea about the past dealings his family had with Aldonza's parents, which brings me to my next point:
Aside from Adelina, who else knows what really happened between Roberta, Sev and Raymundo?
Candy knows Sev cheated on her, and she knows something bad happened the night of the accident but she never heard the details because she did not want to know.
We then have Mel and Dominga who did not believe that Sev really had an accident, but they never said they thought it had something to do with Ray's "accident" right?
Padre J knows about the affair and the baby but does he know that Roberta killed Ray and that Ray was responsible for Sev not having a hand?
What I'm saying is that Adelina is the only one who has all the information, if anyone is at risk its her, she knows the dark secrets of the past and about Aldonzas rape-you kill her and a lot of information goes with her :/
"Aside from Adelina, who else knows what really happened between Roberta, Sev and Raymundo?" In the barn on the night Ray died? Adelina didn't even know until Roberta was close to dying. So now Adelina and Sev are the only people alive who know.
"We then have Mel and Dominga who did not believe that Sev really had an accident, but they never said they thought it had something to do with Ray's "accident" right?" Mel asked some questions about the timing of both the alleged "I fell on a piece of equipment" incident and the fire in Ray's barn. And they gave each other significant glances. And then when Melesio confirmed with one of the ranch hands that there was no piece of equipment that was a bloody mess that morning, he filled Dominga in on that and the both agreed to never speak of it again.
"Padre J knows about the affair and the baby but does he know that Roberta killed Ray and that Ray was responsible for Sev not having a hand?" We didn't see Adelina telling him, so I'm going with "no."
So, sadly, yes...if Adelina dies a lot of the truth dies with her.
Tofie, your list's the bomb as usual, especially Dominga's line, also loved the chewing out you gave Cris. His line was wonderful as well. Yeah, I'm sure she touched it and I'm gonna be shocked if he didn't whip it out and end up being the one whipped.
I'm at his table but I'm hiding my face behind the La Sombra Tiendita catalog.
:/
and wasn't it Steve a couple of days ago?
the gringo
the gringo
Just a thought! Oh. GREAT comments today, guys!
If Cris is so weak that he sleeps with Val after declaring his love for Aldonza and breaks up with Val, I won't rest until I see Al and Cris apart by the end. I will never be in his court for the rest of the show. That's a deal breaker for me.
Recappers have nothing to do with it and if they do you will see a message "comment removed."
There's been way too much talk about the missing comments lately and I need to stop engaging in it, because as helpful as I try to be, ultimately I have no actual control over the issue!
So this is the last I'll say about it. No, you are not required to get a login. It has never been the intention to force people to register. It's up to you whether that's the course you want to take to lessen your inconvenience, but as we've now had someone *with* a login also have their comment disappear, that's not a guaranteed solution. Chalk it up to growing pains. This is the price we're paying, as a community, for our popularity. Take whatever measures you need to, but it's out of my hands.
Otherwise, I will leave the bloodied Mari in the mud pit and go after him.
And now I really, truly, will not address the issue of missing comments again. For real.
Totally would have happened elsewhere *cough*LG*cough*
Please, let us have an actual galan! It's been so long! We can come back from the kissing... just re-attach the spine, please, for the love of plot!
The only tn that I saw in which the leading lady did not end up with the galan was Querida Enemiga. The galan was Gabriel Soto who was Alonso, but I called him Alonslow because he was so dim and dull and had the same expression on his face for the entire show. His competition was a hot chef whom I liked to call Chef Boy-R-You-Hot.
Question: If the girls stay in DF for awhile so that AL can comfort Renato and Lola can get to know Pat, is Severed going to show up there to terrorize AL or is Chris going to show up to court AL ?
That LOCKET. Maybe Lola's little neck ribbon, Mary's ponytail extension, ALL of Pru's tunics...what else?
J in Oregon
"Looking stylish while viewing"
After reading all the suggestions above, I think somebody ought to do it!!!
J in O
If I can't find Pru's tops in a store, I might just get creative with some scarves or something. No, really I wouldn't. But I might.
Only just getting to the comments, but for your best line, "Come on, Em, are you going to get played by EVERY woman in town under the age of 30?", Wouldn't it have been more accurate to say EVERY woman...under 40? (Well, ok, maybe every actress under 40.)
Would you all think it fun to have The Naughty Melon serve Green Drinks out front; Skanky Clothing and Accessories in the Back (along with swishy fake ponytails)?
Obviously, Aldie wouldn't be making all these renovations to the house if she didn't intend for her residence to be permanent. She has some grand mis planes tucked into her notebook, for sure.
This is how you make a comment to compare one show with another. You name the show AND you explain WHY you are making the comparison. Not just some random comment about nothing.
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